| 00:02:36 | Morn | hi prpplague |
| 00:02:47 | Morn | I think I broke my laptop :-( |
| 00:02:47 | prpplague | Morn: hey |
| 00:05:51 | Russ|werk | Morn: what did you do? |
| 00:05:55 | Russ|werk | spill dinner on it? |
| 00:05:58 | Morn | nah |
| 00:06:06 | Morn | all of a sudden it doesn't see the pcmica cards |
| 00:06:12 | Morn | it says the slot is empty |
| 00:06:17 | Morn | but I've tried 3 different cards |
| 00:06:23 | Russ|werk | this a linux problem or a win32 problem |
| 00:07:09 | Morn | both |
| 00:07:22 | Morn | It started when I went to change from Mandrake to Debian |
| 00:07:28 | Morn | and it died in the middle of a net install |
| 00:07:37 | Russ|werk | ouch |
| 00:07:50 | Russ|werk | cardbus? |
| 00:07:54 | Morn | yeah |
| 00:08:14 | Morn | but without ethernet the laptop is almost useless |
| 00:08:32 | Russ|werk | does the card show under /proc/pci? |
| 00:08:51 | Morn | when I do /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart it loads the yenta drivers |
| 00:08:58 | Morn | and dmesg shows it sees the port |
| 00:09:16 | Russ|werk | I mean the actualy ethernet card, it should show under /proc/pci |
| 00:09:20 | Morn | cardctl status says Socket 0 is empty |
| 00:09:57 | Morn | Russ|werk: I have to wait til I get linux back on it, I tried putting XP back on to see if it would work |
| 00:09:59 | Morn | no go |
| 00:10:23 | Russ|werk | thats what I would check first |
| 00:10:27 | Morn | can debian be installed from a USB cdrom |
| 00:10:58 | Russ|werk | don't know |
| 00:11:08 | Morn | I'll have to download the iso and try |
| 00:11:13 | Russ|werk | woody? |
| 00:11:19 | Morn | debian is really good on my ultrasparc |
| 00:11:23 | Morn | much faster than solaris |
| 00:11:23 | Russ|werk | you might need to get a specialized ISO, I don't know |
| 00:11:30 | Russ|werk | or just boot disk |
| 00:12:03 | Morn | debian's install needs help though |
| 00:12:16 | Morn | especially when your doing it via a serial port |
| 00:12:21 | Russ|werk | ya, but you only need to install once |
| 00:12:44 | Morn | I've got the unstable version on my sparc |
| 00:12:55 | Morn | the #debian channel was very helpful |
| 00:13:04 | Morn | I hit 2 glitches and they got me through them |
| 00:13:09 | Russ|werk | all you need is a boot disk to look at /proc/pci |
| 00:13:24 | Morn | let me get a boot disk |
| 00:13:34 | Russ|werk | I'm guessing its not just that card |
| 00:13:44 | Morn | I tried 3 different cards |
| 00:13:46 | Morn | none of them worked |
| 00:16:25 | Morn | should I get the rescue floppy? |
| 00:24:56 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 00:25:02 | Russ|werk | I'm off to home |
| 00:25:18 | Morn | ok |
| 00:25:20 | Morn | I booted |
| 00:25:28 | Morn | I see the cardbus bridge |
| 00:25:31 | Russ|werk | go to a console, and do cat /proc/pci |
| 00:25:38 | Russ|werk | but no card? |
| 00:25:46 | Morn | no |
| 00:25:55 | Russ|werk | something is fried maybe |
| 00:27:05 | Morn | :-( |
| 00:27:07 | Morn | cries |
| 00:27:13 | Morn | I can't afford a new laptop right now |
| 00:27:25 | Morn | lord knows I need one though |
| 00:29:23 | prpplague | Morn: stop sticking pop tarts in the pcmcia slot and this won't happen |
| 00:29:30 | Morn | doh! |
| 00:30:56 | prpplague | Morn: look, i should be past 150 by monday - http://www.ratebeer.com/ViewUser.asp?UserID=1210 |
| 00:32:42 | Morn | wow |
| 00:33:08 | prpplague | Morn: i hope to top 200 at OLS |
| 02:36:12 | | jg was last seen on #handhelds.org 1 days, 9 hours, 39 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: nelson: No, I hadn't noticed. Congrats! [Thu May 30 17:56:33 2002] |
| 02:36:12 | fontenot | ibot: seen jg |
| 03:05:10 | | Russ: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 03:05:10 | Russ | ibot weather kphx |
| 03:06:01 | | fontenot: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 03:06:01 | fontenot | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 03:06:01 | fontenot | to long |
| 03:06:01 | fontenot | too |
| 03:08:24 | | i haven't a clue, fontenot |
| 03:08:24 | fontenot | ibot: but that's what you said last time |
| 03:10:02 | | ...but ibot is <reply> a lonely little bot with too much to remember and not enough spinach to eat. or a dork or a dumbo or not very swift or not making any sense or raduga's hero... |
| 03:10:02 | fontenot | ibot: you are nearly worthless |
| 03:10:19 | | okay, fontenot. |
| 03:10:19 | fontenot | ibot: you are also nearly worthless |
| 03:16:59 | Aelhaz | Evenin |
| 03:18:18 | Russ | evening |
| 05:10:13 | andersee | FYI, I just checked in 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1... |
| 05:11:52 | Russ | andersee: any changes besides a merge? |
| 05:14:01 | andersee | nope |
| 05:14:08 | andersee | Just a simple forward port |
| 05:14:29 | andersee | Dropped some of the mtd changes which no longer applied |
| 05:14:33 | Russ | It doesn't take me very long to do that since I have scripts and everything in CVS |
| 05:15:01 | Russ | If you want a newer kernel, just ask and I'll merge, you should be working on my uclibc problems instead |
| 05:15:05 | Russ | :) |
| 05:15:12 | andersee | ;-) |
| 05:15:35 | andersee | Have you tried the latest ang greatest? I figured I had things fixed for you... |
| 05:16:00 | Russ | did you fix the elf loader too? |
| 05:16:32 | andersee | Only took about 10 minutes to port. Mostly an excuse to put the -tux1 patch in CVS to avoid hitting your website... |
| 05:16:53 | andersee | I havn't tried ipchains, so still havn't seen the problem. |
| 05:17:24 | Russ | I have everything scripted here, so I just have to fix the makefile conflict, compile it, test, look at the diff, and send it off |
| 05:18:10 | andersee | Russ: k. the forward port took me like 10 minutes (most of that unpacking and diffing) |
| 05:18:14 | Russ | you can test the iptables problem even if you don't have iptables compiled into your kernel |
| 05:18:38 | andersee | I tried using dlopen and such and that worked for me |
| 05:18:48 | Russ | try iptables |
| 05:19:13 | Russ | I can even let you ssh into a system that has it |
| 05:19:28 | andersee | Got a build scriot to send to me I can crib from? |
| 05:19:51 | Russ | nope, but its easy to build if you have a cross compile template |
| 05:20:09 | Russ | $(CC)=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc, etc |
| 05:20:12 | andersee | Just ./configure basically? |
| 05:20:21 | Russ | then just include Makefile.cross |
| 05:20:26 | Russ | I don't think there is a configure |
| 05:20:31 | andersee | k |
| 05:20:52 | Russ | or just change you path |
| 05:22:01 | andersee | Tell you what. If you spend a couple minutes making makke/iptables.mk I'll find/fix the bug for you. A deal? |
| 05:27:10 | andersee | Cool! |
| 05:27:39 | andersee | With 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1, busybox modprobe is no longer causing the kernel to Oops |
| 05:27:48 | andersee | most excellent. :-) |
| 06:05:27 | pmisfit | anyone built berkeley db 4.0.14 with uclibc for arm? |
| 06:05:54 | pmisfit | it builds fine, but i get absurd offsets in pread calls (when not using largefile) |
| 06:07:52 | pmisfit | pread(3, "", 1024, 4398046511104) . yeah, right. |
| 06:28:00 | andersee | Hmm... |
| 06:28:15 | andersee | pmisfit: I suppose pread might be broken... |
| 06:28:52 | andersee | BZFlag: I lied. Oops still happens, but only iff there is a modules.dep file... |
| 06:29:17 | BZFlag | yeah, I read. |
| 06:29:27 | BZFlag | same on winder? |
| 06:30:00 | andersee | Well, it worked just fine in a chroot on winder when I tried it... |
| 06:30:54 | BZFlag | with a modules.dep for the kernel version you were running? |
| 06:31:19 | andersee | I wonder it could be a module loading reentrance problem in the kernel... I wonder what a sleep(10) in modprobe does. |
| 06:36:19 | BZFlag | is that new with the bb release? |
| 06:40:15 | andersee | Hmm. Sticking in the sleep(10) makes no difference. |
| 06:40:36 | andersee | What is _really_ wierd is that 'modprobe -nv pcmcia_core' oopses too. |
| 06:40:45 | andersee | That doesn't ever call insmod... |
| 06:40:51 | andersee | puzzles |
| 06:41:12 | andersee | just _reading_ that file oopses. |
| 06:41:32 | andersee | goes to look how the kernel calls /sbin/modprobe |
| 06:42:16 | andersee | Suppose there were an alignment problem reading the file... If it is in kernel space when it catches the fault, it could oops... |
| 06:47:54 | BZFlag | sounds possible. |
| 06:51:27 | andersee | I didnt see any alignment problems, but I did see some buffer overflows... |
| 06:51:32 | andersee | tests |
| 06:52:43 | andersee | The modprobe occurs in a kernel thread... |
| 06:55:25 | andersee | Bah. |
| 06:55:36 | andersee | How does one decode an ARM oops? |
| 07:02:38 | BZFlag | modprobe on the command line still dies for me. that should be easier to trace, no? |
| 07:05:20 | andersee | BZFlag: dies after you pur modules.dep back, rgiht? |
| 07:05:26 | andersee | sigh |
| 07:05:30 | andersee | ah kant tipe |
| 07:20:39 | Morn | is away: while ( tired ) { sleep (5); } |
| 07:21:25 | BZFlag | I can't get on my tux at the moment to test that. |
| 07:21:44 | andersee | You at work or something? |
| 07:22:20 | andersee | anyway, I'm reflashing with strace in the image this time... |
| 07:27:39 | BZFlag | no I'm home, just hacking on other stuff. |
| 07:28:50 | andersee | Here is the exciting trace: |
| 07:28:53 | andersee | # strace modprobe -nv pcmcia_core |
| 07:28:53 | andersee | execve("/sbin/modprobe", ["modprobe", "-nv", "pcmcia_core"], [/* 9 vars */]) = 0 |
| 07:28:53 | andersee | old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 0, 0) = 0x40006000 |
| 07:28:53 | andersee | mprotect(0x40000000, 20831, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:28:54 | andersee | mprotect(0x8000, 321286, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:28:54 | andersee | readlink("/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0", "ld-uClibc-0.9.11.so", 1024) = 19 |
| 07:28:55 | andersee | open("/lib/libc.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3 |
| 07:28:57 | andersee | read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0(\0\1\0\0\0`\331\0\000"..., 4096) = 4096 |
| 07:28:59 | andersee | old_mmap(NULL, 299008, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000e000 |
| 07:29:01 | andersee | old_mmap(0x4000e000, 248367, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 0x4000e000 |
| 07:29:03 | andersee | old_mmap(0x40052000, 8800, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x3c000) = 0x40052000 |
| 07:29:08 | andersee | old_mmap(0x40055000, 5008, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40055000 |
| 07:29:11 | andersee | close(3) = 0 |
| 07:29:13 | andersee | mprotect(0x4000e000, 248367, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:29:15 | andersee | mprotect(0x8000, 321286, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:29:17 | andersee | mprotect(0x4000e000, 248367, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:29:18 | andersee | mprotect(0x40000000, 20831, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0 |
| 07:29:20 | andersee | ioctl(0, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE, {B115200 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0 |
| 07:29:22 | andersee | ioctl(1, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE, {B115200 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0 |
| 07:29:24 | andersee | uname({sys="Linpc : [<40031080>] lr : [<0002da78>] Not tainted |
| 07:29:26 | andersee | ux", node="tuxscreen", ...}) = 0 |
| 07:29:28 | andersee | sp : bffffa3c ip : 00000000 fp : bffffa48 |
| 07:29:30 | andersee | r10: 00000000 r9 : 00000001 r8 : 00000000 |
| 07:29:32 | andersee | r7 : bfffff56 r6 : 00000000 r5 : 00000000 r4 : bffffa4c |
| 07:29:37 | andersee | r3 : 0000002f r2 : 0000000d r1 : 0004cd7d r0 : 00000000 |
| 07:29:39 | andersee | Flags: nzCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_32 Segment user |
| 07:29:41 | andersee | Control: D81D717F Table: D81D717F DAC: 00000015 |
| 07:29:43 | andersee | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- |
| 07:29:44 | andersee | +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ |
| 07:29:46 | andersee | i.e. it oopses... |
| 07:29:48 | andersee | Even when not loading things. |
| 07:29:50 | andersee | Very very wierd |
| 07:29:52 | andersee | I suppose ltrace would be much more helpful... |
| 07:31:44 | andersee | Hmm |
| 07:32:10 | andersee | Last system call was uname... |
| 07:32:20 | andersee | modprobe calls uname. |
| 07:32:23 | andersee | Hmmm. |
| 07:36:54 | andersee | tries something else |
| 07:41:06 | andersee | Hmm. A 4096 byte string on the stack... I don't suppose we are stack limited when execed by a kernel thread? |
| 07:49:43 | Russ | andersee: arm oops are pretty easy to decode what you need |
| 07:49:57 | Russ | grep System.map for the entered at addresses |
| 07:50:29 | Russ | do you get a stack trace? |
| 07:51:24 | Russ | 'Function entered at [<c00bfa74>] from [<c00bfcf8>]' |
| 07:51:34 | Russ | grep c00bfa74 System.map |
| 07:52:09 | Russ | System.map:c00bfa74 t rd_ioctl |
| 07:52:14 | Russ | (doctored example) |
| 08:06:15 | andersee | Not here is an odd one: |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | brk(0x6a064) = 0x6a064 |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | brk(0x6b000) = 0x6b000 |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | brk(0x6c000) = pc : [<00042b9c>] lr : [<0002dc40>] Not tainted |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | 0x6c000 |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | brk(0x6d000) = 0x6d000 |
| 08:06:18 | andersee | brk(0x6e000) = 0x6e000 |
| 08:06:22 | andersee | open("/lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk6-tux1/modules.dep", O_RDONLY) = 3 |
| 08:06:24 | andersee | ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE, 0xbffff990) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid arsp : bffffa48 ip : 00000000 fp : 00000000 |
| 08:06:28 | andersee | gument) |
| 08:06:33 | andersee | It began oopsing while doing a brk! |
| 08:07:24 | andersee | Looks like malloc is indeed doing stack allocations. Maybe we really are stack limited. |
| 08:07:47 | andersee | stuffs in a simple mmap based malloc to test that theory |
| 09:02:07 | madcap | is gone.. doobie doo! |
| 10:16:00 | andersee | k. |
| 10:16:14 | andersee | Latest modprobe in CVS now behaves... |
| 10:35:06 | BZFlag | sweet |
| 10:35:14 | BZFlag | nite |
| 12:20:53 | fontenot | 1575.42MHz |
| 12:21:07 | GPSFan | Hi fontenot: |
| 12:21:19 | fontenot | :-D |
| 12:22:17 | GPSFan | how's the toolchain business? |
| 12:22:17 | fontenot | hi GPSFan |
| 12:22:31 | fontenot | not too good for me lately :-\ |
| 12:22:42 | fontenot | i have been up to other things |
| 12:22:57 | fontenot | andersee has been doing some cool stuff though |
| 12:23:25 | GPSFan | yea, me too, haven't had time for tuxing lately, I see andersee has a 3.1 compiler integrated into buildroot. |
| 12:24:29 | fontenot | yep tho I was having troubles with latest buildroot |
| 12:25:01 | fontenot | whenever it gets to the configuration step on telnet, the g++ compiler takes all my RAM |
| 12:25:15 | fontenot | when is says "checking for ncurses..." |
| 12:27:08 | GPSFan | havent gotten any new rev's of buildroot in a while, but it will soon be a case of " here download this 1k file, type make buildbig" and poof it sucks in all the sources there are and makes everything from the toolchain to all the apps |
| 12:28:29 | fontenot | yep |
| 16:30:25 | ctr | is away: shower |
| 17:24:56 | pmisfit | hmm. anyone gotten a gdb stub going on a tux? |
| 17:54:53 | pmisfit | bueler? bueler? |
| 17:56:38 | igotxi | does tuxscreen use uclibc?? |
| 17:56:57 | pmisfit | igotxi: yep |
| 17:59:54 | igotxi | ok,... is it possible to compile perl against uclibc?? |
| 18:12:08 | pmisfit | interesting question. haven't tried it. perl's pretty big... |
| 18:12:25 | pmisfit | gonna be a challenge to fit it in a 4MB flash file system. |
| 18:13:23 | pmisfit | sounds like a fun experiment though. |
| 18:25:34 | igotxi | perhaps the most difficult part would be the configuration |
| 18:27:00 | igotxi | check out this: http://www.uclibc.org/lists/uclibc/2001-October/004227.html |
| 18:27:29 | igotxi | John Laur says he is able to run perl in tuxscreen |
| 18:27:55 | pmisfit | cool. |
| 18:29:54 | pmisfit | i'm pretty sure all those libm issues have been fixed by now too. |
| 18:30:26 | pmisfit | have you looked at the tuxscreen buildroot system? |
| 18:33:21 | igotxi | no |
| 18:33:32 | igotxi | i have no tuxscreen |
| 18:33:35 | igotxi | :( |
| 18:36:03 | igotxi | i'm building a i386 firewall/router/NAT with uclibc |
| 18:36:06 | igotxi | floppy based |
| 18:36:41 | igotxi | sorry, i must go |
| 18:36:44 | igotxi | bye |
| 21:47:19 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 21:53:51 | pmisfit | as_: howdy. |
| 21:54:05 | as_ | Aloha. Whats cooking? |
| 21:54:20 | pmisfit | quiet today. i'm trying to build gdb for tux. |
| 21:55:18 | pmisfit | and in fact my wife is hollering at me that it's time to go. |
| 21:55:31 | pmisfit | party, social obligations, *sigh* |
| 21:56:01 | pmisfit | my apologies, gotta go. cheers! |
| 21:56:18 | pmisfit | is away: had to step out into the real world. dammit. |
| 21:57:13 | as_ | L8r. |