| 00:00:49 | Russ|werk | iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT segfaults :( |
| 00:01:38 | Russ|werk | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 00:01:38 | Russ|werk | 0x4000379d in _dl_load_elf_shared_library () from /usr/i386-linux-uclibc/lib/ld-uClibc-0.9.11.so |
| 00:07:29 | andersee | Russ|werk: Could be the recent changes to the lib loader... |
| 00:10:00 | MicroChip32 | anyone know how to bind the emu to com2 in linux ? |
| 00:21:06 | Russ|werk | andersee: threads broke sometime is the last two weeks, and the loader broke betweewn 3 and 4 weeks age |
| 00:21:08 | Russ|werk | er, ago |
| 00:22:29 | jacques | MicroChip32: I wish I could help :-( |
| 00:24:35 | MicroChip32 | jacques: when you gonna get back to those notes? |
| 00:27:26 | jacques | MicroChip32: not until I get home from work tonight :-( |
| 00:27:50 | jacques | maybe we can figure it out |
| 00:29:46 | jacques | MicroChip32: ah I remember now |
| 00:30:28 | MicroChip32 | where you at jacques |
| 00:30:52 | jacques | MicroChip32: hmmm, maybe not |
| 00:30:53 | andersee | Russ|werk: My thread tests are all still working with the latest and greatest on x86... |
| 00:30:59 | andersee | Russ|werk: kernel version? |
| 00:31:05 | jacques | MicroChip32: I'm looking at http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/InfernoRemote |
| 00:31:10 | andersee | Russ|werk: compiler version? |
| 00:31:44 | MicroChip32 | jacques: ok |
| 00:34:28 | russ__ | 2.95.4 debian |
| 00:34:33 | russ__ | Linux timmy 2.4.19-pre7-ac4 #9 Mon May 6 20:03:34 MST 2002 i686 unknown |
| 00:34:57 | Russ|werk | using dnrd |
| 00:35:14 | Russ|werk | away |
| 01:05:48 | Russ | su |
| 01:06:09 | Russ | hmm....don't think I'll finish that |
| 01:08:52 | andersee | hehehe |
| 01:08:59 | MicroChip32 | awwwww |
| 01:11:37 | jacques | lol |
| 01:13:38 | MicroChip32 | hey jacques: when do you get home, what tz ? |
| 01:23:27 | Sammy | morning all |
| 01:46:16 | jacques | MicroChip32: I'm in PDT |
| 01:46:36 | jacques | MicroChip32: I wont be home for about four hours yet |
| 01:46:38 | jacques | :-\ |
| 01:48:52 | MicroChip32 | yikes jacques :( |
| 01:50:37 | MicroChip32 | jacques can ya drop me an email when ya get home? i'll be dead to the world by then :) |
| 01:55:12 | jacques | MicroChip32: will do |
| 01:55:22 | jacques | dinnertime |
| 01:55:25 | jacques | :-) |
| 01:55:27 | MicroChip32 | jacques: do you have my email or shall i msg it to you ? |
| 01:56:49 | MicroChip32 | check your msg for my email jacques, im outa here |
| 06:11:16 | andersee | jacques: you about? |
| 06:15:39 | jacques | hi andersee |
| 06:15:48 | jacques | andersee: what's up? |
| 06:19:03 | andersee | jacques: I just found the problem with gcc 2.95 you were seeing |
| 06:20:10 | jacques | andersee: WHOOOO!!!!! HOOOO!!!!! :-D |
| 06:20:32 | andersee | Was a stupid regex bug I'd already fixed elsewhere |
| 06:20:41 | andersee | testing now... |
| 06:21:06 | jacques | andersee: I *thought* we had seen the same thing on the 3.0 toolchain and you had fixed it, but my memory sucks... |
| 06:22:34 | andersee | Yup. That fixed it. |
| 06:22:43 | andersee | Want the changes? |
| 06:23:14 | andersee | Look in the Makefile and then change: |
| 06:23:16 | jacques | andersee: yes please |
| 06:23:17 | andersee | # Fixup where gcc looks for start files to prevent glibc stuff leaking in... |
| 06:23:17 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,standard_startfile_prefix_1 = \".*,standard_startfile_prefix_1=\ |
| 06:23:17 | andersee | \"${TARGET_PATH}/lib/\";,;" ${GCC_PATH}/gcc/gcc.c; |
| 06:23:17 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,standard_startfile_prefix_2 = \".*,standard_startfile_prefix_2=\ |
| 06:23:17 | andersee | \"${TARGET_PATH}/usr/lib/\";,;" ${GCC_PATH}/gcc/gcc.c; |
| 06:23:29 | andersee | That is how it should look.. |
| 06:23:35 | jacques | ok |
| 06:24:25 | andersee | changes teaches it to use binutils 2.12 and autodownload the source |
| 06:24:59 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:25:06 | jacques | nice nice |
| 06:25:09 | andersee | jacques: btw, I have a work-in-progress makefile for buildroot to auto-build the arm cross-compiler... |
| 06:26:42 | jacques | andersee: LOL |
| 06:26:57 | jacques | andersee: have it download and install the native compiler too |
| 06:27:00 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:27:15 | jacques | jk, I think that will be a Good Thing when it's done |
| 06:27:33 | andersee | Maybe I should include some x86 firmware, just in case |
| 06:27:52 | andersee | ;-) |
| 06:27:54 | jacques | make your own linux dist on a bootable cdrom |
| 06:28:02 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:45:24 | jacques | aah, 2.95 toolchain builds ocmpleted successfully on wo different machines |
| 06:45:28 | jacques | two |
| 06:45:45 | jacques | ok I am heading home - will be on form there |
| 06:58:57 | fontenot | andersee: is your binutils 2.12, auto-source-download update going to be available tonight? |
| 07:01:00 | andersee | maybe.. |
| 07:03:02 | fontenot | np, I am going to build the current 2.95 one again now with the path I like |
| 07:03:51 | andersee | k |
| 07:04:11 | andersee | the was sure a silly bug. I wonder why I didn't notice it? |
| 07:04:39 | fontenot | i was starting to think it was distrubution-specific |
| 07:04:48 | andersee | nah |
| 07:04:52 | andersee | was an idiot |
| 07:05:11 | fontenot | hey, how's the 3.1 toolchain? |
| 07:05:22 | fontenot | never lets up. |
| 07:06:39 | andersee | I can build a gcc-3.1/glibc toolchain... The uClibc one is mostly done. |
| 07:07:00 | fontenot | nod |
| 07:29:57 | fontenot | andersee: with the new 2.95 toolchain I am still getting this error when building the buildroot kernel: |
| 07:30:06 | fontenot | drivers/char/char.o(__ksymtab+0xe8): undefined reference to `spi_cleanup' |
| 07:30:19 | fontenot | andersee: previously I had only seen that error with 3.x-based toolchains |
| 07:38:09 | andersee | fontenot: hmm |
| 07:39:09 | andersee | build/linux/drivers/char/spi.c |
| 08:16:11 | fontenot | andersee: it is built |
| 14:19:39 | pattieja | is back (gone 24:24:30) |
| 14:22:39 | kergoth | hey |
| 14:26:06 | MicroChip32 | straw |
| 15:11:07 | Morn | how is everyone? |
| 15:12:45 | andersee | Morn: great! |
| 15:13:12 | Morn | I'm so surprised how much faster Debian runs on my ultrasparc than solaris did |
| 15:13:16 | andersee | just finished building a native uClibc/gcc 3.1 toolchain |
| 15:13:36 | andersee | http://www.uclibc.org/downloads/toolchain/ |
| 15:14:26 | andersee | It is even designed so the toolchains could be dropped into buildroot. |
| 15:14:36 | Morn | cool |
| 15:15:43 | andersee | Should make supporting C++ junk much easier... |
| 15:35:13 | prpplague | anyone here had experience working with pcmcia controler implemented through a pci-bridge? |
| 15:36:52 | andersee | i.e. cardbus? |
| 15:38:06 | prpplague | andersee: is cardbus the definition of using a pcmcia controler such as the cl-pd6729 through a pci-bridge? |
| 15:39:20 | prpplague | checks his pcmcia refs |
| 15:39:40 | andersee | My understanding is cardbus in pretty much a PCI bus in pcmcia form... |
| 15:40:23 | prpplague | ahhh |
| 15:41:36 | prpplague | the cl-pd6729 is normally connected via an isa style bus, however it appears the by using a pci-bridge device you could place the cl-pd6729 on the pci-bus |
| 15:42:11 | prpplague | this is a problem as i see it, because, the linux i82365 doesn't appear to look for isa devices on a pci bus |
| 19:09:20 | Suran | hi |
| 19:11:40 | Suran | everyone sleeping? |
| 19:28:33 | Suran | I have a problem. |
| 19:54:35 | dj_krzys | heloo |
| 20:55:49 | | bzflag was last seen on #bzflag 23 hours, 45 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: captain_proton: cool. [Thu May 23 22:10:45 2002] |
| 20:55:49 | kergoth | ibot: seen bzflag? |
| 21:11:19 | MicroChip32 | Ok all you sleeping beauties (yea right <G>) Two questions: whats the speed of the tux modem? and are their any wifi cards that will work with the tux (with drivers)? |
| 21:14:16 | Russ|werk | the tux modem is a dsp modem |
| 21:14:23 | Russ|werk | so whatever you have the codecs for |
| 21:14:55 | MicroChip32 | so it will do 56k and v90 no problem right ? |
| 21:16:07 | fontenot | MicroChip32: !! dont move |
| 21:16:30 | MicroChip32 | freezes |
| 21:16:57 | MicroChip32 | pharts and tries to hold his breath |
| 21:17:28 | fontenot | MicroChip32: here is how I do inferno for ttyS1: |
| 21:17:45 | MicroChip32 | ahhh someone who knows .... i hope |
| 21:18:10 | fontenot | su - inferno |
| 21:18:17 | fontenot | (I made an infernot acct) |
| 21:18:21 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: do you have a software v90 implementation? |
| 21:18:28 | fontenot | /home/inferno/Linux/386/bin/emu -r/home/inferno |
| 21:18:36 | fontenot | bind -a '#'t /dev |
| 21:18:40 | dc_ | foo |
| 21:18:49 | MicroChip32 | Russ|werk: dont know nuffin about stuff for the tux, still werkin on getting it blob'd |
| 21:18:59 | fontenot | rdp -s115200 -r -p/dev/eia2 |
| 21:19:16 | fontenot | the "-p/dev/eia2" is the important part |
| 21:19:23 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: do you know what is meant by dsp modem? |
| 21:19:33 | MicroChip32 | yea, basicly a software modem |
| 21:19:36 | fontenot | if eia2 does not work, try 1 |
| 21:19:39 | Russ|werk | right |
| 21:19:52 | MicroChip32 | fontenot: gotcha, thx, everything else the same right ? |
| 21:19:55 | fontenot | MicroChip32: BTW, I am jacques - this is the acct I use from home |
| 21:20:06 | MicroChip32 | fontenot: ahhhh gotcha |
| 21:20:08 | fontenot | MicroChip32: yes, everything else the same |
| 21:20:15 | fontenot | c D!blob F!all |
| 21:20:23 | MicroChip32 | checks fontenot fake id, hmm |
| 21:20:31 | fontenot | heh |
| 21:21:04 | fontenot | ok, I gott get ready for work |
| 21:21:18 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: the person writing most of the good stuff died |
| 21:21:18 | fontenot | will check in periodically |
| 21:21:23 | MicroChip32 | later fontenot |
| 21:21:29 | fontenot | later |
| 21:21:42 | MicroChip32 | Russ|werk: ack, all the good sh~t for the tux ? not cool |
| 21:21:49 | Russ|werk | not tux |
| 21:21:53 | Russ|werk | modem codecs |
| 21:22:00 | MicroChip32 | ahhhh, still not good |
| 21:22:27 | Russ|werk | he finished v.32bis and was working on v.34 |
| 21:22:36 | MicroChip32 | Russ|werk so whats the best modem speed/codec available for the tux currently |
| 21:22:48 | Russ|werk | http://www.linmodems.org/ |
| 21:23:40 | MicroChip32 | goes into caffiene shock from drinking a whole 2-litr soda in the last hour |
| 21:24:41 | MicroChip32 | whats the chipset in the tux ? |
| 21:25:12 | Russ|werk | none really |
| 21:25:29 | Russ|werk | its the ucb1300 dsp, along with the lucent module controlling the phone line stuff |
| 21:25:39 | Russ|werk | (lucent mongoose module that is) |
| 21:26:03 | Russ|werk | playing/recording audio on the phone line is no problem |
| 21:26:15 | Russ|werk | its just doing the codecs that is the problem |
| 21:26:49 | kergoth | what's the tux use as a touchscreen controller? |
| 21:26:56 | Russ|werk | the ucb1399 |
| 21:26:57 | Russ|werk | er |
| 21:26:59 | Russ|werk | ucb1300 |
| 21:27:06 | MicroChip32 | so the tux at the moment wouldnt be much use as a dialup gateway/router then eh ? |
| 21:27:07 | Russ|werk | also uses it to control the backlight |
| 21:27:23 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: stick a pcmcia modem in there maybe (3.3V, non-cardbus) |
| 21:27:37 | Russ|werk | or hookup a modem to the serial port |
| 21:27:54 | MicroChip32 | Russ|werk: oh yea, forgot there was two card slots and the serial, doh |
| 21:27:55 | kergoth | Russ|werk: ah, okay. |
| 21:28:14 | MicroChip32 | Russ|werk: also, do you know if theres any support yet for pcmcia 802.11b cards ? |
| 21:28:25 | Russ|werk | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/applicationnotes/AN809_1.pdf |
| 21:28:31 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: afaik |
| 21:28:48 | Russ|werk | you probably want a CF one, since most pcmcia ones are cardbus |
| 21:29:27 | Russ|werk | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/news/publications/content/file_337.html |
| 21:29:38 | MicroChip32 | compact flash wifi ?? |
| 21:29:42 | Russ|werk | right |
| 21:29:58 | MicroChip32 | and where would i put it, with a pcm cf adapter ? |
| 21:30:15 | Russ|werk | ya, those are cheap |
| 21:30:29 | Russ|werk | I ordered some CDIO10T cards from tim, and they came with the adapters |
| 21:31:23 | MicroChip32 | CDI...whats those ? |
| 21:32:09 | Russ|werk | CF 10baset ethernet card |
| 21:32:17 | MicroChip32 | ah ok |
| 21:32:47 | MicroChip32 | any recommended cf 802 cards, and are there suitable drivers that will work on the tux ? |
| 21:34:38 | andersee | morning tim |
| 21:35:14 | andersee | BZFlag: seen my latest evil achievement? http://www.uclibc.org/downloads/toolchain/ |
| 21:35:19 | Russ|werk | MicroChip32: I haven't personally tried any |
| 21:35:34 | Russ|werk | pure uclibc compiler? |
| 21:36:41 | MicroChip32 | hmmm, Russ|werk well thanks for the info, if i can use the tux as a dialup => wifi gateway it'd be really cool |
| 21:36:50 | kergoth | bzflag tim.. what chip is the chip controlling the SD card, lcd timing controller, etc.. the one labeled "GA" on the block diagram and called "LoCoMo" in the code.. |
| 21:37:02 | andersee | BZFlag: Native uClibc toolchains... Now featuring buildroot compatibility. Now how much would you pay? $200, $100, $20? If you act now, its yours free |
| 21:37:05 | kergoth | er.. s/kergoth bzflag tim/bzflag: tim/ |
| 21:37:08 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 21:37:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: yup. |
| 21:37:31 | kergoth | andersee: mind if i utilize those build commands to add uclibc support to the openzaurus buildsystem? |
| 21:37:33 | andersee | Russ|werk: And the gcc 3.1 compiler can compile the arm kernel... |
| 21:37:51 | andersee | As long as my copyright notice stays in place... |
| 21:38:17 | kergoth | okay, cool. I'm sure some people will be interested in it. Thanks. |
| 21:39:09 | andersee | Thats funny -- the README file isn't showing up on the web server. |
| 21:39:20 | andersee | Shows up on the (faster) .de mirror |
| 21:39:22 | andersee | http://de.busybox.net/downloads/uClibc/toolchain/ |
| 21:39:44 | andersee | makes mental not to check what the deal is |
| 21:57:09 | fontenot | ah, but does it work? |
| 21:57:19 | fontenot | the 3.1-compiled kernel that is |
| 21:57:23 | fontenot | :-) |
| 21:57:39 | fontenot | and how much bigger is it than one built with 2.95 |
| 21:57:42 | andersee | dunno. Havn |
| 21:57:43 | andersee | dunno. Havnt tried yet |
| 21:57:59 | fontenot | nod |
| 21:58:22 | andersee | After I got em all working and passing basic tests, I went to sleep. Just got up a bit ago |
| 22:04:01 | fontenot | heading to work |
| 22:19:24 | MicroChip32 | fontenot / jacques_gone you around ? |
| 23:11:26 | jacques | MicroChip32: im here |
| 23:19:51 | MicroChip32 | jacques: are you still here ? |
| 23:25:02 | jacques | MicroChip32: yep |
| 23:25:12 | jacques | work is intruding a bit but I'm here |
| 23:26:34 | jacques | MicroChip32: if -p/dev/eia2 does not work, try -p/dev/eia1 - long story |
| 23:28:18 | MicroChip32 | jacques neither works, says dev/eiaN doesnt exist, and its right |
| 23:28:41 | MicroChip32 | jacques: tell the boss you have more important things to do <grin> |
| 23:28:42 | jacques | MicroChip32: those are vitual devices in the emu's mind |
| 23:28:56 | jacques | virtual |
| 23:29:18 | jacques | MicroChip32: whenb you do the first bind command, what does it say? |
| 23:30:11 | jacques | mmm, tasty new toolchains |
| 23:30:42 | MicroChip32 | hmmm |
| 23:30:43 | MicroChip32 | ; bind -a '#t' /dev |
| 23:30:43 | MicroChip32 | bind: no free devices |
| 23:31:04 | dc_ | toolchains, where?? |
| 23:31:25 | jacques | dc_: http://de.busybox.net/downloads/uClibc/toolchain/ |
| 23:31:25 | MicroChip32 | didnt get that before, i did the bind and rdp on the same line before |
| 23:31:36 | dc_ | :/ |
| 23:31:42 | dc_ | jacques: what type of toolchain? |
| 23:31:48 | jacques | MicroChip32: hmm I think I saw that error when the permissions were wrong on the serial devices |
| 23:31:50 | andersee | _dc: or http://www.uclibc.org/downloads/toolchain/ |
| 23:32:02 | jacques | andersee: I thought you wanted ppl to use the mirrot |
| 23:32:06 | MicroChip32 | oh crap, youre right jacques, sec |
| 23:32:17 | andersee | _dc: gcc-2.95, gcc-3.04, gcc-3.1 |
| 23:32:24 | MicroChip32 | ok how do i exit the emu ? |
| 23:32:25 | andersee | jacques: both of them are mirrors... |
| 23:32:40 | jacques | andersee: ah, sorry then |
| 23:33:05 | jacques | MicroChip32: I think ctrl-d or ctrl-c or even better, kill it from another window |
| 23:33:12 | andersee | jacques: They are mirrors of the content on codepoet.org (my home box). I made the main busybox.net and uclibc.org point to a mirror to reduce the load on my system. |
| 23:33:13 | MicroChip32 | ctrl-c works |
| 23:33:23 | jacques | andersee: ah cool |
| 23:33:37 | jacques | MicroChip32: make sure no enu processes are still running - that happens sometimes |
| 23:33:42 | jacques | emu |
| 23:33:52 | andersee | _dc: the main point of the toolchains is that they produce uClibc binaries natively |
| 23:34:22 | jacques | MicroChip32: also, I think you will want -p/dev/eia1 - I think I had to use 2 because one of hte new 2.4 kernels inexplicably renumbered my serial ports |
| 23:35:28 | jacques | GDPOSEMACS |
| 23:35:58 | MicroChip32 | jacques ok i have the inferno user added to the tty group, and the ttyS* devices chmod'd to 770 |
| 23:36:29 | MicroChip32 | same error |
| 23:37:50 | jacques | MicroChip32: can you just try 666 (or 660) |
| 23:37:58 | MicroChip32 | sec |
| 23:38:14 | jacques | serial port permissions with emu almost drove me mad |
| 23:39:04 | MicroChip32 | 660, same error |
| 23:39:47 | jacques | MicroChip32: ok please try 666 - only on the port you want to use |
| 23:39:53 | MicroChip32 | k |
| 23:40:13 | MicroChip32 | was just gonna do that anyway, and being the only user on the system, doing em all 666 isnt a big deal either |
| 23:40:30 | jacques | ok |
| 23:40:38 | jacques | i hope tihs works - running out of ideas :-\ |
| 23:41:18 | MicroChip32 | same :( |
| 23:41:21 | MicroChip32 | stby |
| 23:41:22 | jacques | urg |
| 23:43:15 | MicroChip32 | nope, tried it by logging in direct as inferno user from the main terminal instead of ssh'd in and su, no difference |
| 23:43:19 | MicroChip32 | gotta be somefin else |
| 23:43:25 | jacques | anyone else have any ideas about MicroChip32's inferno emu problem? |
| 23:43:32 | jacques | im sure someone has seen this |
| 23:43:37 | MicroChip32 | ; bind -a '#t' /dev |
| 23:43:38 | MicroChip32 | right ? |
| 23:43:46 | jacques | when I saw it, it was permissions |
| 23:44:03 | jacques | MicroChip32: are you *sure* there are no other emu processes running? they will lock up the serial ports |
| 23:44:09 | MicroChip32 | jacques yes |
| 23:44:11 | jacques | ok |
| 23:44:51 | MicroChip32 | might it be trying to grab ttyS0 which is in use by the modem ? |
| 23:45:04 | jacques | su - inferno |
| 23:45:04 | jacques | /home/inferno/Linux/386/bin/emu -r/home/inferno |
| 23:45:04 | jacques | bind -a '#'t /dev |
| 23:45:04 | jacques | rdp -s115200 -r -p/dev/eia2 |
| 23:45:09 | jacques | that's what I used |
| 23:45:26 | MicroChip32 | the t outside the '' ?? |
| 23:45:41 | jacques | MicroChip32: in my experience, it just ignores ports that are in use or have wrong permissions |
| 23:46:04 | jacques | MicroChip32: I was cutting and pasting those commands, so I think yes |
| 23:48:09 | MicroChip32 | no such luck :( |
| 23:48:57 | jacques | :-\ |
| 23:50:13 | jacques | MicroChip32: did you log out of that user after you added it to the other group? (tho 666 should make that irrelevant) |
| 23:51:29 | MicroChip32 | yes, logged out of inferno to make changes to groups and tty perms |
| 23:51:43 | MicroChip32 | and also checked to ensure no inferno process each time |
| 23:52:25 | jacques | hmm |
| 23:59:11 | MicroChip32 | inferno/tux dont like me i think :( |