| 00:17:56 | jacques | wow, buildroot downloads uclibc snapshot super-fast now! |
| 01:48:50 | prpplague | TomW: howdy |
| 01:49:03 | prpplague | TomW: hows the dev work going? |
| 01:49:54 | TomW | good, good: http://www.openhardware.net/foo.png |
| 01:50:05 | TomW | prpplague: dillo on Tux & debian-arm |
| 01:50:22 | prpplague | TomW: nice |
| 01:51:13 | prpplague | has every arm based product he ownes disassembled |
| 01:51:57 | TomW | prpplague: http://www.openhardware.net/foo1.png |
| 01:52:42 | prpplague | nice |
| 01:55:38 | TomW | prpplague: haven't got the touchscreen working yet, that will have to wait a bit until I get a cross-dev environ setup to do the debian builds. |
| 02:01:09 | prpplague | ohh |
| 02:09:10 | prpplague | its a shame that gmate didn't stick with their original design |
| 02:11:08 | prpplague | love this replaceable flash module |
| 02:12:02 | TomW | all I got is an older PalmIIIxe's. |
| 02:12:04 | TomW | bbl. |
| 02:36:27 | TomW | prpplague: ok, gots some beans on for dinner. Last linux class at the VoTech tonite. The school is happy, they are going to start pushing the linux course. Means some more "pin money" for me. |
| 03:12:18 | prpplague | TomW: cool |
| 03:13:26 | TomW | yes, interesting experience. If you really think you know your subject matter, try teaching it and you'll soon discover what you don't know! |
| 03:13:48 | prpplague | just finished making a thomas train out of tree limbs from the back yard |
| 03:17:49 | prpplague | TomW: i age whole heartedly |
| 03:18:47 | prpplague | TomW: thats why i volunteer for company training when i can |
| 03:19:23 | prpplague | TomW: you still using the original tux lcd panel? |
| 03:19:56 | TomW | prpplague: the modified one: 64Meg + IDE |
| 03:20:58 | prpplague | TomW: ya but i mean do you still have the lm8v31 lcd connected? |
| 03:21:21 | TomW | yes, impressive display, isn't it? |
| 03:25:30 | prpplague | yes i wish it was a little brighter and just a little smaller |
| 03:26:17 | prpplague | i've got some small 240x64 and 320x240 grayscale lcd's i'm going to play with next week |
| 03:27:13 | prpplague | TomW: looks like seletz is going to build a sa-1110 core module |
| 03:28:16 | prpplague | TomW: probably be a good deal for your arm project |
| 03:30:14 | TomW | no, my customer likes to own the designs. He doesn't like to incorporate boards that may go obsolete, or that he doesn't have control of the revisions, etc. |
| 03:32:36 | prpplague | TomW: ya thats why we are producing just a core board, in theory, you could use the uengine, trizeps, or the one we are working on |
| 03:32:55 | prpplague | TomW: with the same main board |
| 03:35:57 | TomW | A core would be the best bet, then you have an engine that can be plugged into any type of board. |
| 03:37:21 | prpplague | TomW: have you seen the trizeps? |
| 03:37:27 | TomW | yes. |
| 03:37:36 | TomW | nice board. |
| 03:39:16 | prpplague | TomW: we are going to do something similiar except with dual amp connectors |
| 03:44:52 | TomW | I was looking at the Trizeps again, Interesting board. |
| 03:45:12 | TomW | prpplague: getting late, I'm gonna hit the sack. later.. |
| 03:45:17 | prpplague | TomW: later |
| 04:39:35 | scanline | is away: quake II |
| 05:11:41 | scanline | is away: this is annoying... |
| 05:47:28 | prpplague | howdy all |
| 06:12:51 | scanline | is back (gone 01:01:09) |
| 07:28:13 | scanline | is away: ZzZz |
| 07:47:21 | lyakh_working | TomW: hi, I saw you were interested in Trizeps... |
| 14:38:37 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 16 hours, 40 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: howdy [Mon May 20 22:58:12 2002] |
| 14:38:37 | sjhill | ibot: seen andersee |
| 15:19:06 | Jako | hey there |
| 15:19:16 | TomW | ho there |
| 15:19:17 | Jako | anyone remember how to mount an iso file? |
| 15:19:45 | Jako | it was something like mount -t loop ... |
| 15:19:57 | Jako | but i can't remember the las part |
| 15:24:06 | TomW | Jako: mount foo.iso /it -o loop |
| 15:34:11 | Jako | thx |
| 16:50:48 | TomW | Hello Morn |
| 16:51:01 | scanline | is back (gone 09:22:48) |
| 16:51:56 | Morn | Hi Tom |
| 16:52:05 | Morn | I'm having a rough day |
| 16:52:12 | TomW | :-( |
| 16:52:17 | Morn | I want trained monkeys to do the stuff at this hosting company |
| 16:52:26 | Morn | maybe then my directions would be followed properly |
| 16:52:40 | TomW | Only way to do it right, is to... |
| 16:53:06 | Morn | Unfortunately I need my server shipped from CA to CT |
| 16:53:15 | Morn | I can't exactly fly out there and get it myself |
| 16:53:19 | TomW | ... kill the stupid idiot and hope the next one they hire has a "clue". |
| 16:54:27 | TomW | I host my own sites. |
| 16:58:36 | mallum | TomW: on DSL ? |
| 16:59:03 | TomW | cable modem for the past 5 years. |
| 17:07:23 | Morn | TomW: I just got a business cable connection |
| 17:07:30 | Morn | but I'm still trying to get my server here |
| 17:07:40 | Morn | I didn't think they even had cable modmes 5 years ago |
| 17:07:59 | Morn | I put my first colo server up in 1994 |
| 17:08:06 | Morn | it's bounced around a lot since then |
| 17:10:35 | TomW | We have a pretty progressive ISP in the woods of PA. We were using Zenith 300Kbps cable modems almost 5 years ago. Just two years ago, we got the 3Com Com21 800Kbps units. |
| 17:12:08 | TomW | Someone at the ISP knew what Cable Modems would mean to them as far as future revenue and jumped on them early. We have a consortium of TeleCo, Cable and ISP companies that comprise PennTeleData. |
| 17:38:48 | Morn | TomW: what part of PA |
| 17:38:56 | Morn | I grew up in PA Dutch Country |
| 17:39:00 | Morn | not very progressive there |
| 17:42:09 | TomW | Norhteastern PA, Monroe county. |
| 17:44:58 | Morn | ah |
| 17:45:04 | Morn | I was down in Lebanon County |
| 17:45:36 | TomW | Down with the Quakers, eh? |
| 17:46:38 | sjhill | wasn't there a Weird Al song about the Quakers? |
| 17:49:38 | Morn | Amish and Menonites |
| 17:50:00 | Morn | There were several Amish farms on my road and the Menonite church was across the street |
| 18:43:22 | TomW | Morn: I was raised on a dairy farm in NW NJ. |
| 18:43:33 | Morn | TomW: cool |
| 18:43:43 | Morn | I kind of miss playing in corn fields |
| 18:44:44 | TomW | My grandfather's farm: 127 acres (10 of it swampland) and 60 head of Holstiens. |
| 18:45:29 | TomW | A really killer hill that we would ride down in the winter on our sleds! |
| 18:48:16 | Morn | giggle |
| 18:59:58 | TomW | There was a narrow road that led from the barnyard to the base of the hill. It was about 25 ft wide. On one side (left) was a barn on one corner, on the other side was a rockpile (windrow) filled with blackberry vines. |
| 19:01:01 | TomW | You *had* to shoot for the roadway coming off that hill, or else fall off the sled so you could stop before hitting either the barn or the fenchrow. |
| 19:01:49 | Morn | grin |
| 19:02:36 | TomW | We never thought about taking the slow ride down that hill, like our sisters did, they went at a diagonal. Longer ride, but slower. |
| 19:05:42 | Morn | we sledded in the Menonite Church parking lot |
| 19:05:49 | Morn | not real steep but still fun |
| 19:07:05 | TomW | Yeah, you were "flatlanders", I am "hill people". :-D |
| 19:07:33 | TomW | I still live on a hill! |
| 19:08:18 | TomW | 200 ft elevation above the valley floor below. |
| 19:08:53 | TomW | Hills are for living on, flat land is for plowing. |
| 19:09:19 | Morn | I now live at the top of a 800 foot elevation |
| 19:09:30 | Morn | walking my bike up that hill is a real chore |
| 19:09:40 | TomW | Morn: ever been to Johnstown, PA. Below Pittsburg? |
| 19:10:05 | TomW | Morn: How about Jim Thorpe, PA? |
| 19:10:37 | Morn | Never been there |
| 19:10:42 | TomW | Morn: Now, those are real hill people! They build the houses on a nearly vertical hill face! |
| 19:10:55 | Morn | I've hiked the Black Forest trail |
| 19:11:13 | TomW | not familiar with that. |
| 19:11:20 | Morn | Lycomming County |
| 19:11:55 | Morn | I've lived in Lebanon County and just outside Phila |
| 19:12:06 | TomW | <sigh> Most of my focus has always been East, to NJ & NY, that is where the money was. |
| 19:12:28 | Morn | I just left NYC in October |
| 19:12:37 | Morn | couldn't afford the cost of living in Manhattan |
| 19:12:40 | TomW | I would have too!!! |
| 19:13:23 | TomW | Especially with aircraft smashing into buildings! Nothing like living in a prime target area, eh? |
| 19:13:36 | Morn | I was living about 20 or so blocks from there |
| 19:13:47 | Morn | But, that isn't why I moved |
| 19:14:03 | Morn | it was just cost, I was paying $1000 a month to sleep on the floor of the office and not getting paid yet |
| 19:14:09 | Morn | so I had to leave that job |
| 19:15:24 | TomW | yup, you get more but you pay more. That is why so many people live in the Monroe, Northampton counties. They commute for 3..5 hours a day into NYC, get the money, they run home to PA where they can afford to have a house. |
| 19:16:15 | TomW | I-80 for Monroe county & I-78 for Northampton. |
| 19:16:50 | TomW | Morn: So, where are you now? |
| 19:17:00 | TomW | Morn: Cleveland? :-D |
| 19:22:28 | Morn | CT |
| 19:22:32 | Morn | a tiny little town |
| 19:22:57 | Morn | I rent a room from a friend now |
| 19:23:00 | Morn | for $350 a month |
| 19:23:05 | Morn | and I have my home office here |
| 19:23:20 | Morn | trying to get off disability |
| 19:23:34 | Morn | The city is a little better for disabled folks though |
| 19:23:39 | Morn | more transportation |
| 19:42:22 | lyakh | TomW, so, how did you solve your problem with libc? |
| 19:42:32 | file | anybody want to hear some of my parody lyrics? |
| 19:43:56 | file | DALNET LET ME ON! |
| 19:44:00 | TomW | lyakh: no, I am going to have to set up a cross dev environ an address the problem again. |
| 19:45:05 | TomW | lyakh: I took the easy way out for now: built an IDE <--> ATA IDE adaptor and built the reiser partitions from the workstation. :-/ |
| 19:45:36 | lyakh | yep, actually, it's amazing - but we are using cross-toolchains (hardhat, arm-linux) with Debian distro successfully... Shouldn't work:-) |
| 19:45:47 | lyakh | ldd --version? |
| 19:45:53 | TomW | Morn: Connecticutt?! Whew! You are now far from that hometown now. |
| 19:46:39 | TomW | lyakh: 2.1.3 |
| 19:47:16 | lyakh | uhu, I checked at work today, but then forgot:-) it wa 2.1.something too:-) |
| 19:47:38 | lyakh | Another thing - you said you were interested in Trizeos?... |
| 19:47:49 | lyakh | Trizeps, I mean... |
| 19:47:59 | TomW | Yeah, it looks interesting. |
| 19:48:12 | lyakh | we've been using it for more than a year... |
| 19:49:27 | lyakh | ...and if you use it, you'll have to use our patches, so, you'll have a chance to improve them:-) |
| 19:50:10 | TomW | lyakh: I am not sure which way I will be going right now. The end-customer has always expressed a desire to "own" their designs and not to use other manufacturers boards in their product line. They want to add to their list of proprietary desings. |
| 19:50:28 | collord | russ.dhs.org down? |
| 19:51:35 | TomW | Morn: I am renting 3/4 acre with a small house on it for $400 a month here in PA. |
| 19:51:56 | lyakh | well, you can't use bare trizeps, as you know, you have to build a base-board, and that will be your own design, but if they want something absolutely their own - why don't they build a CPU?:-) |
| 19:53:14 | TomW | lyakh: that is the idea, a new cpu board for them. I would rather they use something like the Trizeps as laying out multi-layer MicroBGA boards is not something I want to do! |
| 19:53:27 | collord | gah, found the ml thread. anyone have the patch-2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 ? |
| 19:53:39 | TomW | collord: I do. |
| 19:53:56 | TomW | collord: you want it /dcc 'ed to you? |
| 19:54:19 | collord | TomW uh sure. there a reason it's not on a public http? |
| 19:54:27 | TomW | collord: dunno |
| 19:54:49 | collord | actually this may not dcc, behind NAT |
| 19:54:52 | collord | one sec |
| 19:55:48 | TomW | collord: NAT should work, I am behind iptables wall. |
| 19:57:30 | TomW | collord: I can email it as well. |
| 19:57:55 | collord | TomW actually email is best. collord@collord.net thanks |
| 19:58:19 | andersee | collord: the system it was being served by had their ISP block port 80.... |
| 19:58:24 | Morn | TomW: I like New Milford... it's quiet here, and I can play Rush as loud as I want :-) |
| 19:58:25 | collord | right heard that |
| 19:59:16 | andersee | sjhill: you around today? |
| 19:59:24 | TomW | Morn: Rush Limbaugh? |
| 19:59:38 | Morn | no, the Canadian group Rush |
| 19:59:43 | Morn | progressive rock |
| 19:59:57 | TomW | collord: on it's way. |
| 20:00:02 | TomW | Morn: heh |
| 20:00:21 | TomW | Morn: I am into Classical. |
| 20:00:21 | collord | TomW: thanks 1x10^6 |
| 20:00:32 | Morn | TomW: I listen to a lot of different music, but sometimes I like Rush at deafening volumes |
| 20:00:32 | TomW | collord: np |
| 20:01:25 | TomW | Morn: Yeah, I got some of those. Moody Blues, cranked up loud, when I just want to suffer some feelings through.. |
| 20:02:25 | Morn | TomW: yeah, I like folk music the best, but I have days... |
| 20:02:54 | TomW | Morn: not many I hope! |
| 20:03:22 | TomW | Morn: Oh, wait! You got that Idoit at the hosting company... |
| 20:03:35 | Morn | oddly today was one of those days (dealing with idiots) but I've been listening to Melissa Ethridge all day |
| 20:03:58 | TomW | lol |
| 20:04:32 | andersee | Morn: "Come To My Window" is how you deal with idiots? |
| 20:04:38 | andersee | fears for Morn |
| 20:04:43 | TomW | heh |
| 20:05:07 | Morn | If I was closer to CA I would have gotten the server myself |
| 20:06:49 | TomW | what is so special about the box? other than it'll cost to replace it? |
| 20:07:18 | TomW | Morn: sparc or something? |
| 20:07:53 | Morn | the info on it |
| 20:07:55 | Morn | 500 users |
| 20:07:58 | Morn | 50 websites |
| 20:08:12 | Morn | too much data to download before it went offline |
| 20:08:25 | Morn | the hardware is negotiable |
| 20:08:34 | Morn | it's just the info I'm concerned about |
| 20:08:35 | TomW | I just don't feel like working on anything today. My car is in the shop getting work on the electrical system and I figgure if my car can have the day off, then so should I! |
| 20:09:37 | Morn | I've got email going back to 1996 on that server |
| 20:09:51 | TomW | Morn: so what was wrong? The thought it was their box or something? |
| 20:10:01 | Morn | they are just clueless |
| 20:10:13 | Morn | It is being sent now, I have a tracking number |
| 20:10:16 | Morn | I feel better |
| 20:10:27 | Morn | I used to work for this company (in the Long Island office) |
| 20:10:36 | Morn | it's gone down hill since I left |
| 20:10:47 | Morn | thinks she was the best admin they had :-) |
| 20:10:52 | TomW | lot of them around anymore. The ones that do know what is going on all have good paying jobs. The ones that don't know what is going on, have even better paying jobs! |
| 20:11:24 | TomW | ... and are managing the ones that do know. |
| 20:11:55 | TomW | Morn: I hope they sent it insured... |
| 20:12:15 | Morn | for $2000 |
| 20:12:34 | collord | hrm did gcc-arm disappear from debian? |
| 20:12:42 | TomW | so when you get the mangled box back (due to lousy packing), you can surgically remove the hard drive and transplant it. |
| 20:13:24 | TomW | collord: http://www.openhardware.net/TuxScreen/Development.html |
| 20:13:31 | TomW | collord: pick one. |
| 20:13:58 | TomW | collord: I am using #3, from the UK. |
| 20:14:36 | collord | TomW: right, just that #2 i thought was in debian |
| 20:15:47 | TomW | collord: I don't like to use RPMs target for RH, I use Mandrake here. Yes, probably would work, but.. |
| 20:15:59 | TomW | s/target/targeted/ |
| 20:16:45 | collord | ah got it |
| 20:17:36 | TomW | dillo is promising as a Tux browser, but it doesn't seem to handle virtual web sites. |
| 20:17:56 | collord | http 1.1 ? |
| 20:18:04 | TomW | yup |
| 20:18:19 | collord | my tux is headless |
| 20:18:24 | TomW | heh |
| 20:18:33 | TomW | but not brainless. |
| 20:18:40 | Morn | now do I work on the tux or the iPAQ |
| 20:18:53 | collord | some interrupt thing makes the screen go apeshit using some wireless cards |
| 20:19:00 | TomW | Morn: ... got a coin? |
| 20:19:22 | Morn | TomW: grin, I think I'll work ont he iPAQ, for some reason I can't get networking with it |
| 20:19:28 | TomW | collord: DMA starvation of the LCD controller? |
| 20:20:09 | TomW | Morn: you make money doing this, or just a warm glowy? |
| 20:20:23 | Morn | the iPAQ or the server? |
| 20:20:31 | TomW | iPAQ |
| 20:20:37 | Morn | just warm glowy feeling |
| 20:20:46 | Morn | I did a little WinCE consulting though |
| 20:20:51 | Morn | enough to know I didn't like it |
| 20:20:58 | TomW | ow! |
| 20:21:11 | TomW | We could have told you that! |
| 20:21:16 | Morn | giggle |
| 20:21:35 | TomW | But then, you probably did that before you found us over here. |
| 20:21:39 | Morn | I'm trying to get the iPAQ to dual boot PPC2002 and Linux |
| 20:21:51 | TomW | worthy task |
| 20:21:59 | Morn | I can boot Linux now |
| 20:22:06 | Morn | but it's not getting the networking right |
| 20:22:32 | TomW | What kind of physical netword device does it have? |
| 20:22:47 | TomW | s/netword/network/ |
| 20:22:51 | Morn | A wireless NetGear card |
| 20:23:06 | TomW | PCMCIA / CF? |
| 20:23:14 | Morn | I have a dual PCMCIA sleeve for it |
| 20:23:26 | Morn | so I have the network card and a 256MB cf card in it |
| 20:24:32 | TomW | Yeah, PCMCIA is one of my week spots. I had a notebook for a while, and that used PCMCIA cards. Lent the notebook to my sister so she could surf and I kept the D-link PCMCIA card for the Tux. |
| 20:27:32 | Morn | I have a 10/100 PCMCIA card in my tux |
| 20:27:49 | Morn | if I get a second one for downstairs I'll put wireless in it |
| 20:28:23 | prpplague | TomW: join the crowd, pcmcia seems to be writen by aliens |
| 20:28:31 | Morn | hi prp |
| 20:28:52 | collord | anyone know off the top of their head the power consumption of an unladen tux? |
| 20:31:34 | TomW | um, no. |
| 20:32:26 | TomW | prpplague: probably was designed in commitee |
| 20:32:32 | CosmicPenguin | should be on the wiki somewhere |
| 20:33:05 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: of course it was designed by aliens - how do you think Jeff Goldblum uploaded the virus in Independence Day? |
| 20:33:08 | Morn | well, I'm going to code a little in my cell phone application |
| 20:34:33 | TomW | Morn: I'll opt for playing some more with my super-Tux. Nice chatting. later. |
| 20:34:49 | Morn | :-) |
| 20:34:57 | collord | I hope *someone* makes some interesting cell phone apps |
| 20:36:56 | prpplague | i have not choice, more fun with SCO2Linux.... |
| 20:37:34 | collord | oh, fun, the sourceforge download changes mucked with buildroot too |
| 20:43:16 | collord | sweet. even through the occasional bitrot, you know, the buildroot-tux is really really cool |
| 20:43:26 | collord | thanks to whoever |
| 20:43:52 | andersee | collord: you are welcome. :) |
| 20:44:55 | collord | i wish the mainstream linux embedded knowledge would find its way over to the community wireless community |
| 20:45:13 | collord | there are some interesting problems there |
| 22:37:16 | Russ|werk | andersee: you about? |
| 22:38:33 | andersee | yup |
| 22:39:00 | Russ|werk | should normal c++ programs compile ok with uclibc? |
| 22:39:34 | Russ|werk | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/libgcc.a(_pure.o): In function `__pure_virtual': |
| 22:39:34 | Russ|werk | _pure.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `__write' |
| 22:39:35 | andersee | should... provided you have a libstdc++ lib for them to use |
| 22:41:31 | andersee | Russ|werk: hmm. In libc/sysdeps/linux/common/syscalls.c I have this: |
| 22:41:34 | andersee | * which is a blatent GNU libc-ism... */ |
| 22:41:34 | andersee | weak_alias (__libc_write, __write) |
| 22:41:50 | andersee | err. |
| 22:42:00 | andersee | \/* Stupid libgcc.a from gcc 2.95.x uses __write in pure.o |
| 22:42:01 | andersee | * which is a blatent GNU libc-ism... */ |
| 22:42:01 | andersee | weak_alias (__libc_write, __write) |
| 22:42:16 | andersee | What version of uClibc? |
| 22:43:37 | Russ|werk | 0.9.11 |
| 22:43:42 | Russ|werk | somewher about there |
| 22:44:39 | Russ|werk | ok |
| 22:44:43 | Russ|werk | there it is, I cvs updated |
| 22:45:15 | Russ|werk | thanks |
| 22:48:43 | Russ|werk | grr...the program I'm making linked to libc |
| 22:50:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: created a libstdc++ for uClibc? |
| 22:50:28 | Russ|werk | how do I do that |
| 22:50:29 | Russ|werk | oh... |
| 22:50:37 | Russ|werk | download libstdc++ and cross compile it? |
| 22:51:39 | andersee | see buildroot-tux/make/stlport.mk for the simplest way |
| 22:52:09 | andersee | Otherwise, you need to build a full uClibc/gcc toolchain to get libstdc++ from gcc to build vs uClibc |
| 22:52:29 | andersee | I have some tarballs on uclibc.org that show how to do that... |
| 22:52:39 | andersee | I'm updating those to gcc 3.1 today |
| 22:52:40 | jacques | and are limited to gcc3 in that case |
| 22:52:49 | jacques | andersee: wow |
| 22:52:56 | Russ|werk | is buildroot-tux in cvsweb? |
| 22:54:11 | andersee | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/ |
| 22:54:15 | jacques | andersee: have you changed your gcc 2.95 stuff at all lately? |
| 22:54:21 | Russ|werk | thanks |
| 22:54:47 | andersee | jacques: only to disable building c++ (doesn't work). So you can build a C only toolchain. |
| 22:55:14 | CosmicPenguin | see you all in a week and half |
| 22:55:25 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: have a great trip! |
| 22:56:42 | jacques | andersee: ah cool that sounds useful |
| 23:21:18 | Russ|werk | hmm |
| 23:21:24 | Russ|werk | musta done something wrong |
| 23:21:30 | Russ|werk | src/wvdial(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start' |
| 23:22:25 | jacques | andersee: did yo umove uclibc.org to a fater connection? |
| 23:23:18 | andersee | nope |
| 23:23:41 | jacques | andersee: is gcc-2.95-uclibc-20020503.src.tar the latest? |
| 23:24:18 | jacques | when buildroot downloaded the uclibc snapshot last night it was really fast |
| 23:24:34 | andersee | jacques: yup |
| 23:24:47 | jacques | ok |
| 23:25:03 | Russ|werk | andersee: whats with the g++-3 include? |
| 23:25:30 | andersee | jacques: I'm hoping to have gcc-3.1-uclibc-20020521.src.tar out today... |
| 23:25:36 | jacques | andersee: let me know when gcc3.1 toolchain is up - I wanna try it :-) |
| 23:26:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: I've not included that g++ include patch into uClibc's g++ wrapper. |
| 23:26:26 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 23:26:33 | Russ|werk | what if I just use the stl includes? |
| 23:26:59 | andersee | Guess I should. And I should add in -lstdc++, then you could drop the extra includes and libs |
| 23:27:31 | andersee | Russ|werk: Then you would just need the -I |
| 23:28:08 | andersee | libstdc++ only needs to be linked for stuff like iostreams and such |
| 23:33:29 | Russ|werk | I can't get wvdial to link without libc |
| 23:41:43 | Russ|werk | ok, it doesn't want to link to the stl lib |
| 23:42:05 | Russ|werk | /home/russ/src/build/STLport-4.5.3/lib//libstdc++.so: the 'setlocale' function supports only C|POSIX locales |
| 23:42:09 | Russ|werk | /home/russ/src/build/STLport-4.5.3/lib//libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `hypot' |
| 23:43:24 | andersee | Russ|werk: `hypot' is in libm. But I expect you need to have C99 math support enabled in uClibc for that |
| 23:44:04 | andersee | The setlocale stuff isn't going to work till we finish the locale stuff in uClibc. i.e. next release. |
| 23:44:19 | andersee | Is there a --disable-nls configure option? |
| 23:44:41 | Russ|werk | doesn't seem to be, I really hate wvdial, but its the only thing out there |
| 23:44:53 | Russ|werk | its supposed to be for embedded systems, but its a monstrousity |
| 23:47:29 | andersee | heh. IMHO nothing written in C++ is supposed to be for embedded systems. ;-) |
| 23:47:40 | Russ|werk | wonder where its picking up the nls |
| 23:50:17 | Russ|werk | must be the same people that thought that embedding qt was the way to go |
| 23:52:00 | andersee | Russ|werk: next uClibc release will have full (configurable) locale, wide-char, etc support in. Much of it is already in CVS. |
| 23:52:10 | Russ|werk | I really don't need any of that |
| 23:52:15 | andersee | Russ|werk: me either.... |
| 23:52:30 | Russ|werk | I just want wvdial to link against stl and uclibc |
| 23:52:36 | andersee | Russ|werk: But some do (and those some are paying ;) |
| 23:53:16 | andersee | May need to hack it to add a --disable-nls option. I've done that for several packages... |
| 23:54:21 | Russ|werk | what nls functions should I look for |
| 23:54:22 | Russ|werk | it doesn't have a configure script |
| 23:54:24 | Russ|werk | what should I grep the source for |
| 23:54:26 | Russ|werk | nls and locale return nothing |
| 23:54:44 | Russ|werk | I think those are just the problems with the stl lib |
| 23:54:48 | Russ|werk | lemme try a test program |
