| 00:01:31 | spd_racer911 | TomW: libjpeg.so is on its way. You think Debian is wierd, Familiar is even stranger since it is based off of debian |
| 00:04:04 | TomW | got everything installed, even XFree86-common. |
| 00:04:31 | TomW | This gets deeper & deeper & deeper... I will try dillo after I get tinyx running. |
| 00:08:32 | spd_racer911 | TomW: so basically you have the standard Debian arm dist. but that needs the tinyx rebuilding for the Tuxscreen touchscreen using the sources you guys worked on the last couple of weeks? |
| 00:12:02 | Russ | just apt-get install libjpeg |
| 00:18:45 | TomW | spd_racer911: yes, that is the idea. Install the gcc, make, etc. and let it fly. |
| 00:19:09 | TomW | spd_racer911: compile tinyx on the Tux. |
| 00:19:46 | spd_racer911 | TomW: you mean compile tinyx for the Tux? |
| 00:19:53 | TomW | spd_racer911: yes. |
| 00:20:21 | spd_racer911 | TomW: native compile would be possible ie on the tux just a little slow :-) |
| 00:20:33 | TomW | What X11 packages did you install to get XFree86 running? |
| 00:20:55 | TomW | spd_racer911: not too slow, I compiled glibc in about 4 hours. |
| 00:22:03 | spd_racer911 | TomW: I sort of cheated...I used a familiar-task-complete tarball that had a bunch of stuff preconfigured...then I did the ipkg install which is a utility like Debians apt-get to install packages |
| 00:24:41 | TomW | spd_racer911: yeah, was wondering where you got a framebuffer XFree86 driver for 8bpp. |
| 00:25:00 | spd_racer911 | TomW: I also looked at using microwindows and viewml inorder to satisfy my need for a web browser...so basically I am looking at dillo and viewml and comparing functionality and memory usage |
| 00:25:23 | TomW | spd_racer911: I am interested in a browser as well. |
| 00:25:43 | spd_racer911 | TomW: cool, glad someone else shares this common need/goal ! |
| 00:27:45 | spd_racer911 | TomW: I guess if I recompile the Xfbdev from the Tuxscreen CVS stuff I may not end up with the 8bpp? If not is there a way to configure 8bpp with the xserver ? |
| 00:27:46 | TomW | spd_racer911: hmmm, they have a kaffe package to implement a java engine. does dillo do java? |
| 00:28:34 | TomW | spd_racer911: not sure, jacques should be able to answer that question. |
| 00:29:43 | spd_racer911 | TomW: it may support Java...not sure...well I have to go eat...catch you guys later |
| 00:29:51 | TomW | spd_racer911: later. |
| 00:30:46 | as3 | Can I annoy you for a few mins Tom? |
| 00:31:46 | TomW | as3: ok. |
| 00:32:01 | as3 | Anychance I could hacve a look at the j602 interface code? |
| 00:32:19 | TomW | as3: you may ask, but I am feeling calm, please don't annoy me, eh? ;-) |
| 00:32:35 | as3 | Thats not the intention ;] |
| 00:33:00 | TomW | as3: hmm. I haven't run a diff on it yet, so all I have is the working source right now. |
| 00:33:02 | as3 | But I know how I feel when people ask me very simple questions about hardware. |
| 00:34:26 | as3 | I'm after getting an idea of how a simple interface would be connected and be coded for. Is there some simple code, in c or asm I could look at? |
| 00:34:36 | as3 | (simple interface to j602). |
| 00:43:26 | TomW | as3: the ide interface for linux is primarily in include/asm/arch/ide.h. the only other change I had to do was write a special insw() & outsw function for use with my 8 bit interface, this code went into drivers/ide/ide.c |
| 00:44:12 | as3 | Ok, extremely dim question. Where do I get this set of sources? |
| 00:45:03 | as3 | And can I have a look at the 8bit interface code?, it would clear a lot up for me I think. |
| 00:47:24 | TomW | as3: http://cvs.openhardware.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/buildroot-tux/build/linux/include/asm-arm/arch-sa1100/ide.h |
| 00:48:11 | TomW | as3: http://cvs.openhardware.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/buildroot-tux/build/linux/drivers/ide/ide.c |
| 00:48:43 | as3 | Aha, Ok, looking. |
| 01:11:04 | Sammy | morning ... |
| 01:12:08 | Russ | morning |
| 03:59:05 | | there is not here |
| 03:59:05 | TomW | spd_racer911: still there? |
| 03:59:35 | spd_racer911 | TomW: just sat back down for a second... |
| 03:59:48 | spd_racer911 | TomW: what's up |
| 04:00:02 | TomW | spd_racer911: can you send me your XF86Config file? please, please! |
| 04:00:31 | TomW | spd_racer911: there is no XF86Setup or xconfigure stuff. |
| 04:00:46 | spd_racer911 | TomW: yeah, hold on let me see if I can find it |
| 04:03:05 | Morn | hi all |
| 04:03:16 | TomW | hi Morn |
| 04:03:47 | spd_racer911 | TomW: there is no /etc/X11/XF86Config but there is /etc/X11/XftConfig |
| 04:03:59 | TomW | sounds ok |
| 04:04:14 | spd_racer911 | TomW: ok, I send it to you |
| 04:04:35 | TomW | thanks, I hope it is what I think it is.. |
| 04:05:39 | Morn | does the v0.6 X install have touchscreen drivers? |
| 04:05:47 | Morn | or did I somehow break the touchscreen |
| 04:06:55 | TomW | spd_racer911: doesn't look like a config file for XFBDEV, thanks anyway. :-/ |
| 04:07:08 | spd_racer911 | TomW: I was gone for a couple of hours earlier and did not get a chance to recompile tinyx for use with my Familiar stuff...did you recompile it to try it with your Debian stuff ? |
| 04:07:59 | TomW | spd_racer911: no, what I am thinking of doing is getting the source to familiars' XF86 stuff and sticking the touchscreen into it. |
| 04:09:47 | spd_racer911 | TomW: I don't see a 'normal' X86 like /etc/X11/XF86Config file with tinyx on the stuff I am using |
| 04:10:42 | spd_racer911 | TomW: it looks like we could jacques to answer some of these questions... |
| 04:14:31 | TomW | spd_racer911: maybe it is in /etc, they do sometimes put it there. |
| 04:14:59 | TomW | spd_racer911: wait! You said you had familiar running with xfree86? |
| 04:15:42 | spd_racer911 | TomW: no, I have familiar running with what familiar comes with...I believe it is tinyx |
| 04:16:21 | TomW | spd_racer911: ok, that is what I thought must be happening, that "hot load" has tinyx in it. |
| 04:16:56 | TomW | spd_racer911: well, I'll deal with this tomorrow. It is getting late.. |
| 04:17:51 | spd_racer911 | TomW: correct. The video works of course since it uses the /dev/fb device , the touchscreen does not work...but based on your work with tinyx on the Tuxscreen I believe we can make it work real soon |
| 04:19:09 | spd_racer911 | TomW: yeah it is getting late for me too (MST)...I would be happy to work on this together tomorrow... |
| 04:20:07 | TomW | spd_racer911: it should be pretty close to running, soon. |
| 04:20:10 | TomW | later |
| 04:20:16 | spd_racer911 | later |
| 08:30:27 | | hi, mallum |
| 08:30:27 | mallum | hi |
| 09:32:40 | lakrids | the fake.html is 404 |
| 09:49:35 | lakrids | are there any screenshots / photos of the software "working" ? |
| 09:50:27 | lakrids | or is there a reason for none being online |
| 10:23:55 | sh33p | dudes |
| 10:24:21 | sh33p | I've just been pointed to this project |
| 10:24:33 | sh33p | it seems almost unreally cool |
| 10:26:14 | prpplague | linux projects always seem that way IMHO |
| 10:26:30 | sh33p | indeed |
| 10:27:01 | sh33p | has one of these ever made its way over to the UK? |
| 10:29:37 | mallum | yes there are plenty in the UK |
| 10:29:50 | sh33p | excellent |
| 10:29:55 | sh33p | rubs hands together |
| 10:34:02 | lakrids | enjoy... |
| 10:54:17 | sh33p | do they arrive in a useable state (i realise it won't be linux) |
| 11:02:35 | sh33p | I'd just like to know that bits are working before embarking on a big rebuild |
| 11:37:36 | sh33p | mallum: could you tell me roughly how much it cost after carriage, excise etc. ? |
| 12:10:52 | ras400 | Hi Dave |
| 12:10:57 | drc300 | Hi Rich |
| 15:57:22 | TomW | Hmmm, almost have xfree86 in debian-arm running.. |
| 15:57:48 | TomW | I need a touchscreen driver. |
| 16:15:06 | Morn | TomW: have you used the x that is v0.6 on the web site? |
| 16:15:54 | TomW | not sure which version, I just used an apt-get to install the packages. |
| 16:19:14 | TomW | Morn: Oh, I know what you mean now... You meant the 0.6 "image" from the Tux site? |
| 16:26:27 | Morn | yes |
| 16:28:13 | Morn | I'm also having trouble with nfs with the image from the site |
| 16:29:49 | TomW | Morn: I am not currently using the stuff from cvs, I have the debian-arm familiar that I am using. |
| 16:31:14 | Morn | is it working with the standard ram? |
| 16:31:21 | Morn | I have the 32meg sodimm in |
| 16:31:26 | Morn | but it isn't working yet |
| 16:31:58 | TomW | Are you booting with the 32Meg SODIMM installed? |
| 16:32:13 | TomW | Are you booting successfully with the 32Meg SODIMM installed? |
| 16:32:48 | Morn | on phone one moment |
| 16:33:40 | Morn | I can boot |
| 16:33:47 | Morn | it just looks like it is still 8meg |
| 16:33:59 | Morn | Tim said someone has to rewrite the kernel loader to handle it |
| 16:34:06 | Morn | which is above my head |
| 16:37:49 | TomW | I doubt that you have only 8Meg of DRAM and can boot the Tux. The kernel is loaded into the low ram 0xCXXXX:0000 area and the ramdisk is loaded into 0xDXXXX:0000 region. What do you get when you do a 'cat /proc/meminfo'? |
| 16:39:12 | Morn | it says 16meg of ram (the 8 meg on board and the 8 it sees on the sodimm) |
| 16:39:16 | Morn | that is what I meant |
| 16:39:24 | TomW | andersee: is there a doc / site / or something that details the "virtual" cross development technique that you use to create the environ to compile uClibc in? |
| 16:39:27 | Morn | it doesn't see the full 32meg of the sodimm (making 40 meg) |
| 16:40:43 | andersee | Beyond what I have in the uClibc sources? Not really... |
| 16:41:06 | andersee | TomW: Anything in particular that you need to know? |
| 16:41:07 | TomW | andersee: what purpose does the staging dir serve? |
| 16:42:18 | TomW | andersee: is that where the target libs, headers & such are kept to be referred to during compile & link? |
| 16:42:26 | andersee | It is a place to install libraries and header files to compile things against |
| 16:42:40 | TomW | andersee: Ah, thought so. |
| 16:42:52 | andersee | Things are then cherry-picked from staging_dir to be installed |
| 16:44:52 | TomW | andersee: So, you build, in extra/gcc-uClibc, a mechanism to invoke the local arm-linux-gcc but pass to it the locations (options) to use the stading dir, right? |
| 16:46:31 | andersee | When you run make on uClibc/extra/gcc-uClibc it compiles a wrapper for the specified cross compiler. That wrapper warps all gcc/ld/etc invocations so things compile vs uClibc |
| 16:47:03 | andersee | And yes, the wrapper is compiled such that the stuff in the staging dir is used when compiling |
| 16:48:23 | sjhill | ! |
| 16:48:25 | sjhill | wb andersee |
| 16:48:30 | andersee | thanks |
| 16:48:41 | sjhill | returns from lunch |
| 16:48:46 | andersee | I'm trying to get back to work today... |
| 16:49:02 | sjhill | andersee: i have some nasty linker/loader bugs for mips, tracing them down now |
| 16:49:12 | andersee | sjhill: thanks to BZFlag I now have a Cobalt Qube (mips box). |
| 16:49:20 | sjhill | sweet |
| 16:49:51 | andersee | sjhill: Once I manage to get it updated so I can ssh in and work with it... |
| 16:49:59 | mallum | Qubes are mips ? |
| 16:50:57 | TomW | andersee: thanks, I'll play with that. |
| 16:51:17 | sjhill | mallum: yes |
| 16:54:14 | TomW | Morn: you will get that: 16Meg. The blob needs to be updated so that it programs the internal DRAM controller of the SA1100 to use all 12 rows of the new SODIMM. Normally the DRAM controller only uses 10 rows of the DRAM. The DRAM controller is setup in blob. |
| 16:57:45 | Morn | blob programming is beyond my little mind |
| 17:00:27 | Morn | I may have to go back to the 0.5 ramdisk |
| 17:00:35 | Morn | so I get nfs back |
| 17:27:51 | TomW | Morn: that is what I did, I went back a version in cvs before the jffs2 kernel (a.k.a. 0.6). I couldn't get the pcmcia stuff working (it wouldn't see my network card). |
| 17:28:37 | TomW | I don't see any advantage to the jffs2 kernel, other than you *might* get a slightly faster reprogramming time when updating the kernel. |
| 17:29:47 | TomW | You don't save any appreciable amount of flash memory by using it, I saw an insignificant amount of Flash memory size increase. |
| 17:30:10 | TomW | IMO, it is more of a technical advance, rather than a practical one. |
| 17:30:28 | andersee | TomW: compressed kernel modules. No dead space trailing behind the end of the kernel partition |
| 17:30:51 | TomW | andersee: you only have 16K of dead space. |
| 17:31:35 | TomW | andersee: the kernel modules are not very large, so you save a few K by compressing them, not worth the trouble. |
| 17:32:17 | TomW | andersee: if we were talking 100's of K's in savings, then yes, it would be worth doing. |
| 17:36:53 | Russ|werk | TomW: it sucks moving around all the partitions whenever your kernel size changeds |
| 17:38:18 | TomW | Russ|werk: ?? how much room do you need for the kernel? Are you actually creating a lot of huge drivers in your kernel? |
| 17:38:35 | Russ|werk | anywhere from 400k to 1M |
| 17:39:22 | TomW | Russ|werk: ok, we have one person with one good reason for the jffs2, any others? |
| 17:41:14 | TomW | Granted that the Tux is a developer oriented device and that much of the cvs is bleedin' edge. As developers, we still have an obligation to users such as Morn to give them something usefull. Don't we? |
| 17:44:16 | TomW | Aw, I am getting to emotionally invested in this. For me, I tried the cvs code twice, couldn't figure out why the pcmcia stuff wasn't working and moved on by forking from the cvs. |
| 17:46:43 | Russ|werk | its for flexibility |
| 17:47:13 | Russ|werk | if one person want a 1M kernel, you don't want to screw over the person with the 400k kernel |
| 18:48:27 | andersee | BZFlag: the Qube sure has a noisy fan. Needs fixing. :) |
| 18:52:01 | andersee | goes looking for a proper resistor to silence the Qube |
| 19:13:38 | TomW | Ahhh! FVWM95 running on the Tux! |
| 19:14:20 | lyakh | good-good!:-) |
| 19:18:52 | TomW | no touchscreen yet, on familiar. |
| 19:19:10 | TomW | now to try mozilla, just for giggles. |
| 19:20:05 | TomW | lyakh: the debian-arm X framebuffer works on the Tux. |
| 19:20:55 | lyakh | cool. Did you have to modify anything in the code? There's some arch-cpecific stuff there, IIRC. |
| 19:21:10 | lyakh | I mean fb-driver in the kernel |
| 19:21:29 | TomW | nope, just created an /etc/XF86Config file and away it went. |
| 19:21:54 | TomW | kernel already has an fb device. |
| 19:22:31 | lyakh | yeah, sorry, I didn't notice 'X'. Are there tux-specific modifications in fb-driver? |
| 19:23:38 | TomW | The xfbdev I am using is from debian, unmodified. But, it needs to be modified to handle the tux ucb1x00-ts (touch screen) device |
| 19:25:35 | Russ|werk | I need to see what size gtkfb with dependancies turns out to be |
| 19:26:55 | BZFlag | TomW: you might try just symlinks to whatever device it is looking for. |
| 19:27:35 | BZFlag | that' worked for me in the past with the debian X server, but ts has changed since then so who knows if things are in sync again or not. |
| 19:28:16 | TomW | Yeah, but this thing needs some customization in the xfbdev server so it flips the X axis and prescales the ts data. |
| 20:20:35 | mallum | does mvl = montavista linux ? |
| 21:06:58 | jacques | hi ho |
| 21:08:17 | mallum | hey jacques |
| 21:08:39 | jacques | hi mallum, what's new? |
| 21:09:13 | mallum | jacques: did you see the shots of matchbox on a psion ? |
| 21:10:13 | jacques | mallum: yeah I saw one shot - I thought it was sweet |
| 21:11:07 | mallum | jacques: yeah I like to pick one up |
| 21:11:17 | mallum | jacques: what I could really do with is another ipaq |
| 21:12:48 | jacques | mallum: yeah, I keep hoping the Xscale ones will come out |
| 21:13:39 | mallum | jacques: oo yeah there like 400mhz |
| 21:13:45 | mallum | jacques: right ? |
| 21:14:37 | jacques | mallum: yep :-) |
| 21:14:53 | jacques | they wre "announced" months ago |
| 21:15:17 | jacques | compaq and HP....hmmm I guess they are the same company now |
| 21:15:38 | jacques | that will probably delay things :-\ |
| 21:15:43 | mallum | A greyscale ipaq would do fine for me |
| 21:19:05 | TomW | cool! I just got dillo running on the Tux with debian-arm, I have slashdot.org loaded! |
| 21:19:18 | jacques | TomW: :-) |
| 21:19:41 | TomW | looks good! I had loaded cnn.com just to see what the graphics looked like, they look good too! |
| 21:19:50 | jacques | TomW: let's see! |
| 21:19:58 | Russ|werk | cool |
| 21:20:07 | TomW | Ahhh! how did that import go? |
| 21:20:11 | Russ|werk | I really want to fit that on the flash...but don't think it'll happen |
| 21:20:25 | mallum | diilo rocks |
| 21:20:57 | mallum | but w3m-img is just plain scary |
| 21:25:31 | jacques | TomW: import -window root -display 192.168.1.101:0 foo0.png |
| 21:25:55 | TomW | jacques: http://www.openhardware.net/foo.png |
| 21:26:47 | jacques | wow, that looks great! |
| 21:27:01 | TomW | yeah! |
| 21:27:18 | jacques | congrats TomW! |
| 21:27:51 | TomW | takes a little room to do all this: |
| 21:27:53 | TomW | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 21:27:59 | TomW | darn! |
| 21:28:23 | TomW | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 21:28:23 | TomW | /dev/hda1 300M 40M 260M 13% / |
| 21:28:24 | TomW | /dev/hda5 1000M 32M 968M 3% /tmp |
| 21:28:24 | TomW | /dev/hda6 400M 50M 350M 13% /var |
| 21:28:24 | TomW | /dev/hda7 2.3G 166M 2.2G 7% /usr |
| 21:28:24 | TomW | /dev/hda8 5.0G 32M 4.9G 1% /home |
| 21:28:45 | TomW | that is a reiserfs so you got abt 32Meg of overhead per volume |
| 21:28:48 | jacques | wow, that's a large /tmp partition |
| 21:29:33 | TomW | experience, mc tends to unpack a tarball in /tmp before it displays it. I have run out of room before on the workstation. |
| 21:29:55 | TomW | jacques: Hey! I got LOTS of room, so I'll waste some.. :-D |
| 21:30:21 | jacques | TomW: yep you sure do |
| 21:30:23 | BZFlag | likes a large var with /tmp -> /var/tmp |
| 21:30:37 | TomW | jacques: dillo looks good on the Tux, don't it? |
| 21:30:54 | jacques | we ave gone to a three partition system here - swap, /, and /home |
| 21:31:04 | jacques | TomW: yes it most certainly does |
| 21:31:27 | TomW | jacques: no touchscreen, yet. |
| 21:33:28 | TomW | that is not XFree86, per se, running. It is simply "XF68_FBDev -ac &" then "DISPLAY=":0" ; dillo http://www.cnn.com" |
| 21:33:56 | TomW | jacques: I had fvwm95 running a while ago... |
| 21:35:33 | mallum | TomW: nice shot, but no matchbox ...? |
| 21:36:55 | TomW | jacques: http://www.openhardware.net/foo1.png |
| 21:39:00 | TomW | mallum: haven't gotten that far yet. I have to setup a cross-dev environ, similar to what uClibc does. |
| 21:40:00 | mallum | TomW: did you install debian ? |
| 21:40:07 | mallum | TomW: you could apt-get it then :) |
| 21:40:28 | TomW | Oh, for matchbox? |
| 21:40:41 | TomW | yes, debian-arm |
| 21:41:03 | jacques | i need to build a new toolchain so I can start playing again |
| 21:41:13 | jacques | my current one suddenly stopped being able to compile uclibc |
| 21:41:30 | TomW | BZFlag: too bad you don't have a couple of thousand more Tux's. Now that we are making progress on some X stuff.. |
| 21:41:50 | BZFlag | heh, that is too bad huh? |
| 21:42:05 | jacques | well he is getting some from someehre - used to be 200 left, now there are over 300! |
| 21:42:18 | jacques | next week there will be 400 |
| 21:42:28 | jacques | d'oh! |
| 21:42:44 | BZFlag | Chanserv must be resetting the topic or something. |
| 21:42:57 | jacques | BZFlag: (it is, every chance it gets) |
| 21:43:11 | jacques | bad ChanServ! bad! |
| 21:44:54 | jacques | no more jtag?? :-( that sounds kinda final |
| 21:45:57 | mallum | TomW: yes |
| 21:46:07 | mallum | TomW: apt-get install matchbox |
| 21:46:26 | TomW | little greedy on the memory usage: |
| 21:46:28 | TomW | Mem: 63897600 45993984 17903616 0 15630336 17670144 |
| 21:46:28 | TomW | Swap: 210042880 475136 209567744 |
| 21:46:28 | BZFlag | I've not heard back from aleph1 on building new ones yet, and people keep ordering them. |
| 21:46:49 | TomW | BZFlag: are you serious? The Tux may still live on?!! |
| 21:48:38 | jacques | TomW: a lot of that is probablt fs cache |
| 21:48:41 | BZFlag | TomW: new dongles. not new tuxes. |
| 21:48:47 | jacques | lol |
| 21:49:05 | jacques | I'll take mine in Xscale please |
| 21:49:10 | BZFlag | heh |
| 21:51:06 | jacques | with reflective TFT |
| 21:51:12 | jacques | stereo sound |
| 21:51:18 | jacques | usb host controller |
| 21:53:47 | jacques | delete phone option |
| 21:54:25 | TomW | fresh boot: |
| 21:54:27 | TomW | total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: |
| 21:54:27 | TomW | Mem: 63897600 41951232 21946368 0 20516864 9572352 |
| 21:54:28 | TomW | Swap: 210042880 0 210042880 |
| 21:54:52 | TomW | so, 40Meg for Xfbdev + fvwm95 |
| 21:57:43 | andersee | BZFlag: what are the minicom setting for the Qube? |
| 21:58:02 | jacques | TomW: we need top or something - that does not sound right |
| 21:58:09 | jacques | hi andersee :-) |
| 21:58:12 | andersee | howdy |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 183 root 9 0 2516 2516 1680 S 0 0.0 4.0 0:03 XF68_FBDev |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 194 root 9 0 1444 1432 1196 S 0 0.0 2.2 0:00 xload |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 164 root 9 0 1428 1428 684 S 0 0.0 2.2 0:03 xfs |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 192 root 9 0 1364 1364 1152 S 0 0.0 2.1 0:00 xclock |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 179 root 9 0 1320 1320 1004 S 0 0.0 2.1 0:00 bash |
| 22:00:41 | TomW | 170 root 8 0 1316 1316 1008 S 0 0.0 2.1 0:01 bash |
| 22:00:43 | TomW | 185 root 9 0 1280 1280 1004 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:01 fvwm95 |
| 22:00:45 | TomW | 189 root 9 0 1156 1156 952 S 0 0.0 1.8 0:00 FvwmTaskBar |
| 22:00:47 | TomW | 188 root 9 0 1036 1036 876 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 FvwmButtons |
| 22:00:49 | TomW | 2 |
| 22:01:52 | jacques | what adds u pto 15MB or so |
| 22:04:36 | TomW | jacques: plus another 5..7 meg of misc stuff. |
| 22:05:02 | jacques | TomW: what does /proc/meminfo show for "Cached" ? |
| 22:05:29 | TomW | 10 meg. |
| 22:06:13 | TomW | ok, here it is, it is cache & buffers: |
| 22:06:15 | TomW | total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: |
| 22:06:15 | TomW | Mem: 63897600 44019712 19877888 0 21454848 10383360 |
| 22:06:34 | jacques | what's buffers" |
| 22:06:38 | jacques | ? |
| 22:06:43 | TomW | dunno. |
| 22:07:00 | TomW | let me shut X down and see if it changes. |
| 22:09:51 | TomW | reboot into an idle system: |
| 22:09:53 | TomW | total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: |
| 22:09:53 | TomW | Mem: 63897600 33820672 30076928 0 18382848 6242304 |
| 22:10:25 | BZFlag | andersee: 115k2 n81 |
| 22:10:33 | TomW | jacques: got to go teach the last linux class. later.. |
| 22:11:05 | jacques | TomW: later |
