| 01:52:28 | TomW | jacques: hello |
| 01:53:06 | TomW | jacques: I am busy installing debian-arm packages on my Tux. |
| 01:57:49 | jacques | TomW: cool |
| 01:58:07 | jacques | TomW: what ever happened with the pcmcia problems you were having? |
| 01:58:42 | TomW | jacques: I now have bash running and I can finally use the vi keystrokes on the command line, that has been absolutely driving me nuts! |
| 01:59:53 | TomW | jacques: I have forked, I am still using an older version. I gave a real serious try at using the new stuff in cvs, but I just could not get my network card to work, even when I compiled the driver into the kernel. Not sure what is happening there. |
| 02:00:52 | TomW | jacques: too much to do otherwise, I have to concentrate on a solid codebase right now and don't have the time to look into the issues. :-( |
| 02:01:28 | TomW | jacques: not being critical, just have other stuff that really has to get done. |
| 02:02:45 | jacques | TomW: well i have heard several ppl say they were having pcmcia network problems with the cvs stuff but no solutions |
| 02:27:27 | descent | Hi! every body |
| 02:28:07 | descent | I install blob , kernel and rootfilesystem to tuxscreen. |
| 02:28:33 | descent | I want to build roofilesystem my myself. |
| 02:28:48 | descent | I use mkfs.jffs2. |
| 02:29:23 | descent | How to decide parmeter about erase block. |
| 02:30:10 | descent | Or where can find reference , thank you for your help. |
| 02:33:52 | prpplague | as_: hey dude |
| 02:34:22 | as_ | Alohawya. |
| 02:34:58 | as_ | Has this room been a frenzy of technical discussions? |
| 02:35:23 | prpplague | as_: don't know, i've been trying out rhat 7.3 on a new pc |
| 02:35:42 | as_ | Fair enough. |
| 02:36:47 | prpplague | brb |
| 03:07:29 | TomW | jacques: sorry, got called away to a phone call, had to make some money.. |
| 03:11:36 | jacques | heh np |
| 03:11:40 | jacques | i was working |
| 03:34:56 | Russ | hey prpplague |
| 03:35:51 | prpplague | Russ: hey dude |
| 03:35:55 | prpplague | Russ: what up? |
| 03:36:17 | jacques | hey Russ, how's blob? :-) |
| 03:37:21 | Russ | just was taking a quick look inside my camion |
| 03:37:38 | Russ | got any clues as to something that will mate j3? |
| 03:37:46 | Russ | er, JP3 |
| 03:38:35 | Russ | and trying to see if I can get my cdio10t up on it |
| 03:38:46 | prpplague | Russ: sorry don't have it in front of me, is that the amp connector that i suspect is the jtag interface? |
| 03:39:16 | Russ | its made by amp? |
| 03:39:43 | prpplague | Russ: if it the connector i'm thinking of, ya |
| 03:39:50 | Russ | ah, its got rz and sz |
| 03:42:51 | prpplague | Russ: sounds like you start the "operation" |
| 03:43:06 | prpplague | Russ: whats you impression of the board? |
| 03:43:23 | Russ | very clean and well done |
| 03:43:34 | prpplague | Russ: that was my impression |
| 03:43:57 | prpplague | Russ: i think they would have done better making a development board out of that |
| 03:44:26 | Russ | I'm trying to bring a getty up on the external serial port |
| 04:42:05 | Russ | prpplague: I'm downloading all the flash partitions right now |
| 04:42:58 | Russ | probably will have to send in for a device number, as ciit just configured as an assabet |
| 04:44:07 | Russ | bootldr comes up on the external serial port, so its really easy to get into |
| 04:44:34 | prpplague | Russ: ya i figured it would be, its just i had no time to work on it |
| 04:44:47 | prpplague | Russ: + i don't know if we will ever seen another unit |
| 04:44:57 | Russ | wonder if jtag is on the external port |
| 04:45:02 | Russ | pity |
| 04:46:18 | prpplague | Russ: don't know aobut the jtag, that was one of my questions that i never got answered |
| 04:52:52 | prpplague | Russ: yes a pity, i was able to test mine with a handheld barcode scanner, made a nice inventory device |
| 04:53:39 | prpplague | Russ: btw, if you didn't notice, the CF slot is a type II however the plasic housing will only allow type I |
| 04:54:05 | prpplague | Russ: if you take an exacto nice and trim the plastic you can use type II with no problems |
| 06:51:12 | | Test cancelled. |
| 06:51:12 | fontenot_ | ibot: test |
| 08:22:33 | TomW | wonder how much trouble it would be to put together a 2.2.x kernel to run on the Tux? |
| 08:23:07 | TomW | probably have problems rewriting the device drivers.. |
| 08:25:40 | | Test Successful! |
| 08:25:40 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 08:26:07 | | TomW: excuse me? |
| 08:26:07 | TomW | ibot: speak |
| 08:26:39 | fontenot | my dsl has been dpwn all night |
| 08:27:40 | TomW | Yeah, I know what "net deprivation" is about. :-( |
| 08:28:15 | TomW | I am wondering if I should stick with the 2.4 kernel on the Tux or not. |
| 08:28:26 | lyakh_working | Why do you want 2.2? |
| 08:29:56 | TomW | well.. I am not sure, jsut that while working with the debian stuff, it is libc, not glibc, for some reason it bothers me. |
| 08:30:36 | lyakh_working | The "relatively new" things in 2.4 that might have some problems in 2.2 are (guessing): PCMCIA, jffs2, mtd, SA1100:-) |
| 08:31:16 | TomW | kind of torn here, the 2.4 kernel has good journal filesystems, while the 2.2 debian is chock full of apps, but lousy filesystem (ext2). |
| 08:31:23 | lyakh_working | What? not glibc? Are you sure? I would say that's impossible - remember - it's DEBIAN... To be precise, it's GNU/Debian |
| 08:31:56 | TomW | lyakh_working: I looked in ftp.debian.org and saw nothing for glibc under the ARM stuff. |
| 08:32:46 | TomW | lyakh_working: Maybe I should see if there are sources around, I was looking in the binaries. |
| 08:33:49 | lyakh_working | They might well call it libc, I guess, I'll try to check our local distro, btw, Debian-2.2 also works fine with 2.4 - this is what we are (and most other Debian-2.2 users, I presume) do. |
| 08:33:50 | TomW | fontenot: the question that keeps coming into my mind is the differences between gcc-2.72 & gcc-2.95.3, that is a nagging bother also.. not sure why. |
| 08:34:32 | TomW | lyakh_working: yes, I saw that, the top & ps commands work fine with the /proc filesys under a 2.4 kernel. |
| 08:34:59 | lyakh_working | You need some updates though against stock potato |
| 08:35:00 | fontenot | TomW: 2.7 ??? that's extremely old |
| 08:36:00 | fontenot | TomW: why are you thinking of going to 2.2. kernel?? |
| 08:36:19 | fontenot | we ran 2.4 kernel on ipaq with debian stable, testing, and unstable |
| 08:37:14 | TomW | fontenot: that is the binary deb package that they have on the site: gcc-2.72.. So, I got to thinking about building a native gcc-2.95.2 compiler for it so I could compile the kernel, reiserfs tools, netfilter, etc. But then I wonder if the older debian sources are based on gcc-2.72 and will have fits if the gcc-2.95 munches on the sources. |
| 08:38:24 | lyakh_working | Yep, the package is called libc6 here, and, of course, it's glibc |
| 08:38:37 | TomW | would I have to have both compilers installed.. AYMK, that gets to be a pain-in-the-butt to keep them seperate and straight in your mind / config as to which one is $CC. |
| 08:38:42 | fontenot | TomW: hmmm, I dont know - they even have 2.95 in debian stable arm... |
| 08:39:06 | TomW | fontenot: yeah, but, we are using that for the 2.4 kernel. |
| 08:39:54 | TomW | if I want a reiserfs (critical IMO for a unit like the Tux with an IDE drive), I would have to build it under 2.95, AFAIK. |
| 08:40:09 | lyakh_working | Use 2.95.3 arm-linux- cross-toolchain + 2.4.x kernels. |
| 08:40:25 | fontenot | TomW: tell me why you are even considering gcc 2.7 ? |
| 08:41:00 | TomW | lyakh_working: ok, but what happens if I want to alter one of the current potato packages, and compile the source with 2.95? |
| 08:41:32 | lyakh_working | We compile everything with that. No prob. Why should there be any? |
| 08:41:44 | TomW | I am out of my area here. I ran 2.72 abt two years ago, since then I hava been doing development with the 2.9x series. |
| 08:42:11 | lyakh_working | 2.95.3 is the recommended compiler for the kernel now. |
| 08:42:44 | TomW | lyakh_working: OH! I got the impression that the only compiler that was being used was 2.72, becuase, there is a deb package for a gcc-2.72 (native) but no native 2.95. |
| 08:43:01 | TomW | lyakh_working: that is what I have 2.95.3 |
| 08:44:04 | TomW | lyakh_working: do you hava a URL for that compiler? 2.95.3, I lost the bookmark, I still have the binary. I would have to build a native arm compiler for the Tux, unless one exists. |
| 08:44:30 | fontenot | TomW: I believe there definitely *is* a 2.95 gcc package |
| 08:44:54 | lyakh_working | Why do you want a native compiler at all? You are not going to compile the kernel natively, are you?:-) |
| 08:46:21 | TomW | well, maybe you are right. OK. If you say that the potatoe packages are being built with the 2.95 and that the potatoe binaries run ok against a 2.4 kernel.. |
| 08:47:15 | TomW | lyakh_working: thanks, I just needed those questions answereed before I spend a lot more time constructing a drive image and smoothing out problems (tuning). |
| 08:47:23 | lyakh_working | ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/toolchain/ |
| 08:47:32 | TomW | ah! |
| 08:47:45 | TomW | isn't that Blundell? |
| 08:48:21 | | Test Successful! |
| 08:48:21 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 08:48:54 | TomW | lyakh_working: ok, now stop goofing off and get back to work! heh. |
| 08:48:59 | lyakh_working | Maybe potato packages are NOT being built with the 2.95, but you definitely can re-compile them with 2.95 |
| 08:49:10 | lyakh_working | Ok:-) |
| 08:50:58 | TomW | fontenot: I was using the Tux filesystem on the ide, did a reboot, then the system came up and complained about "drives unmounted uncleanly". I figured that I better switch 100$ to the debian stuff. I got most of it working. |
| 08:52:07 | TomW | vi acts strange, if I edit a file then try to save it, vi complains that I cannot write to the file. I can save to a new file though. then cp to the one I was editing. |
| 08:52:28 | TomW | maybe it is becuase I have debian running over nfs.. |
| 08:54:32 | TomW | fontenot: lot of grunt work here! |
| 08:56:22 | fontenot | TomW: yeah :-\ |
| 08:56:44 | fontenot | vi acts strange - i remember that |
| 08:57:02 | fontenot | by default it installs some broken tiny vi |
| 08:57:15 | fontenot | if you install the bigger vi it works fine |
| 08:57:27 | fontenot | debian uses a system of symlinks for things like vi |
| 08:58:01 | TomW | fontenot: saw that, lots of symlinks! Yes, saw they have a vim package. |
| 08:58:18 | TomW | I'll try out the vim |
| 08:58:32 | fontenot | we had that exact vi problem with intimate |
| 08:58:56 | fontenot | TomW: you might wanna stop by #intimate and talk to Tangent |
| 08:59:16 | TomW | ?? |
| 08:59:51 | fontenot | he remembers a lot more of the quirks we encountered than I do |
| 09:00:37 | TomW_ | fontenot: give me that last one, I hit the wrong button on xchat and killed it. |
| 09:01:42 | TomW | why should I talk to Tangent? |
| 09:01:54 | fontenot | TomW: I said stop by #intimate and talk to Tangent - he remembers a lot more of the quirks we encountered than I do |
| 09:02:06 | fontenot | intimate is our debian based dist for the ipaq |
| 09:02:13 | fontenot | imtimate.handhelds.org |
| 09:02:33 | fontenot | looks like tangent is not in at the moment |
| 09:02:37 | fontenot | he's in the UK |
| 09:03:50 | TomW | ok. BTW vim works fine. |
| 09:04:45 | fontenot | boy is this silly - I am running two different scanners tuned to a broadcast FM station - one on each side of my head |
| 09:05:00 | TomW | I have a lot of work to do on this thing! The base system is very nice! |
| 09:05:11 | TomW | lol |
| 09:05:33 | fontenot | i was trying to hook up my discone, but I am having trouble |
| 09:05:53 | TomW | You aren't going to xmit on the discone are you? |
| 09:05:55 | fontenot | i think it's a bad cable or bad bnc adaptor |
| 09:06:11 | TomW | those things make lousy Ham antennas. |
| 09:06:22 | fontenot | i just got it for my pcr-1000 |
| 09:06:27 | TomW | k |
| 09:06:30 | fontenot | as a wide-band scanner ant |
| 09:06:55 | mallum | hello ppl |
| 09:07:18 | fontenot | hi mallum :-) |
| 09:07:21 | TomW | a lot of new Hams have tried discones, I think that is why Radio Shack sells so many of them, plus to scanner enthusiasts. |
| 09:07:26 | TomW | hi mallum |
| 09:07:46 | TomW | mallum: up early, eh? |
| 09:07:54 | fontenot | TomW: and they are not happy with them? |
| 09:08:04 | TomW | not for ham use, no. |
| 09:08:24 | fontenot | ok |
| 09:08:30 | mallum | TomW: yeah earlyish its about 10:15 here |
| 09:08:38 | TomW | get some 14ga wire and build a 1/4 wave vertical, it will work better. |
| 09:08:49 | TomW | mallum: oh, UK? |
| 09:09:07 | fontenot | TomW: I was meaning to ask someone about the wire ant thing - should the wire be stripped? |
| 09:09:20 | fontenot | i already heard it should be solid core |
| 09:09:23 | TomW | fontenot: doesn't matter. |
| 09:09:31 | mallum | TomW: yep |
| 09:09:33 | TomW | also doesn't matter. |
| 09:09:47 | fontenot | hmmm ok |
| 09:09:57 | TomW | I have transmitted on 10mtrs by loading up my bed frame with a tuner. |
| 09:10:57 | fontenot | lol |
| 09:11:03 | TomW | tied the center conductor to the bed and the braid to my hot water baseboard heating system, didn't work too badly, 'course I was on the 2nd floor... |
| 09:11:38 | mallum | TomW: did you play with debian ? |
| 09:11:44 | fontenot | TomW: how should I ground my pcr-1000 ? it has a ground connector on the back and I heard grounding helped reception |
| 09:12:29 | TomW | I just did it to mess with some peoples minds, they were "aluminum junkies". Insisted that only a tubular aluminum antenna was any good, "a good antenna costs money, you cannot just build one..." |
| 09:12:44 | TomW | fontenot: probably. |
| 09:12:59 | fontenot | heh, I think I could get interested in antennas |
| 09:13:02 | TomW | fontenot: more for lightning protection: it is a good idea. |
| 09:13:52 | TomW | BTW, every foot of wire induces from 30..3KV from a near strike of lightning. You don't have to have a direct hit to damage your radios. |
| 09:14:03 | fontenot | the book i read said to drive an 8' copper stake into the ground... |
| 09:14:18 | fontenot | but I dont see myself doing that here... |
| 09:14:20 | TomW | fontenot: lightning produces a hell of a magnetic pulse! |
| 09:14:36 | fontenot | yeah i phear lightning |
| 09:15:12 | TomW | heh, yeah. then they tell you to pour chemical salts around the dirt to make sure it conducts well. |
| 09:15:39 | | Test cancelled. |
| 09:15:39 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 09:16:02 | TomW | heh, best thing I found to do, especially on HF, is to put up as much wire as I can (dipole) up as high as I can and hope for the best. |
| 09:16:12 | fontenot | dont be surprised if i go silent - dsl is acting up again |
| 09:16:38 | TomW | but, but, dsl is "better than cable", isn't it? |
| 09:16:48 | TomW | :-D |
| 09:17:13 | fontenot | where i am everything sucks |
| 09:17:55 | TomW | OOOHHH NOOOOO! Not in Northern CA! |
| 09:18:20 | TomW | ... on the outskirts of San Jose.. |
| 09:19:44 | TomW | fontenot: I finally convinced a ham buddy to put up a wire antenna for 10mtrs, he was amazed that something so simple worked so well. Now he has them on 6 & 2 mtrs. |
| 09:20:16 | fontenot | TomW: it cant work well if it's not expensive |
| 09:20:19 | TomW | ... also HF, he just goes to Home Depot to get the raw materials. |
| 09:20:48 | TomW | Ok, like the J-Pole, eh? |
| 09:20:59 | fontenot | i dont know what that is |
| 09:21:55 | TomW | J-Pole == 2 meter antenna built from about 18 inches of 300 ohm twin-lead. Works very well for a portable antenna and bests a rubber duck in performance. |
| 09:22:24 | fontenot | hmm i need to look into that |
| 09:22:38 | fontenot | i think i am going to buy one of those antenna books |
| 09:23:20 | TomW | If you travel for business, build a J-Pole, then feed it with RG-174 (about 1/8" thick cable) and you can sit in your motel room and operate. |
| 09:23:45 | TomW | fontenot: yeah, the ARRL antenna guide is a good investment. |
| 09:23:55 | fontenot | cool I'll get that one |
| 09:23:59 | fontenot | ive seen iot |
| 09:24:02 | fontenot | it |
| 09:25:32 | fontenot | so far this is proving to be a *great* scanner ant: http://universal-radio.com/catalog/scanants/2368.html |
| 09:26:21 | TomW | I did a lot of RF work in building repeaters, etc., for a while.. There is a book by Jessop (G8JP) called the "VHF / UHF Manual" darned good reference. |
| 09:26:41 | TomW | mallum: he is a Brit, but that is ok, he wrote a fine book! |
| 09:26:57 | fontenot | cool |
| 09:27:45 | TomW | that book goes into some really heavy theory and practical applications. From 440MHz up to microwave. |
| 09:28:03 | fontenot | where does VHF start? |
| 09:28:05 | TomW | Well, 2 mtrs up to 40GHz. |
| 09:28:17 | TomW | sorry, VHF is 2 mtrs. |
| 09:28:25 | fontenot | ok |
| 09:28:53 | TomW | ... as far as a ham is concerned. See, we have this big hole between 6 mtrs & 2 mtrs? |
| 09:29:02 | TomW | heh |
| 09:29:38 | fontenot | between 50 and 140 is a lot of space |
| 09:30:12 | TomW | The British have a 70 MHz band (or did) and we only had 50MHz, so we could talk to them on 6 mtrs and listen to them on 70MHz. |
| 09:30:58 | TomW | Getting light out here. I am staying up so I can mow my lawn. :-( |
| 09:31:08 | fontenot | whoa |
| 09:32:02 | TomW | I am on a night schedule, it has been raining so often here that it hasn't had a chance to dru out enough to mow. Yesterday was dry, and this morning will be also. Today I mow.. |
| 09:34:03 | TomW | fontenot: hmmm, I just took a good look outside, maybe I should have the local dairy farmer come over an bail the thing. |
| 09:34:26 | TomW | fontenot: .. with his hay bailer. |
| 09:35:32 | fontenot | lol i need that for my backyaerd |
| 09:35:53 | TomW | 40 degrees out there this morning! |
| 09:36:33 | | fontenot: (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 46.9 F (8.3 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.96 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.01 inches (0.3 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 79%; Sky conditions: clear; Temperature: 53.1 F (11.7 C); Visibility: 8 mile(s); Wind: from the NNW (340 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) |
| 09:36:33 | fontenot | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 09:36:36 | TomW | but I don't care, I would rather have it cold at night and comfortable during the day than have to pay for air conditioning. |
| 09:40:10 | TomW | fontenot: I wonder how tinyx would run under debian-arm? |
| 09:43:13 | TomW | AH! I can sleep, they say that today will be fine, tomorrow it will rain again. |
| 09:44:10 | TomW | yes, definately today, it will rain all weekend into Monday. |
| 09:48:50 | mallum | TomW: tinyX would run fine |
| 09:48:54 | mallum | TomW: just point /etc/X11/X ( IIRC ) at it |
| 09:49:39 | TomW | mallum: kind of figured that was the case. |
| 09:50:29 | TomW | it is 6AM, wonder what the neighbors would say if I fired up the mower about now? |
| 09:54:48 | mallum | TomW: dont they have guns in amaerica ? |
| 09:55:28 | TomW | doh! Your right, bad idea! |
| 09:55:53 | fontenot | TomW: tinyx runs fine - that's what we run on intimate - we made our own debs |
| 09:56:22 | TomW | fontenot: so, you also do IPAQ work as well? |
| 09:56:59 | fontenot | TomW: i did, havent for a few months now, but I helped out on intimate |
| 09:57:15 | fontenot | i built the base images and did some tinyx work |
| 09:57:55 | fontenot | tangent did all the hard stuff |
| 09:58:49 | TomW | one of the reasons I don't want to make any money on selling IDE boards for the Tux, this way I can benefit from what others are building too. |
| 10:00:05 | mallum | TomW: will you sell a 'kit' or just the pcb board ? |
| 10:01:19 | TomW | I just want to sell a bare board for about USD$30 (or less if more people want them) and sell the CPLD chip preprogrammed for about USD $10. |
| 10:03:04 | TomW | mallum: the rest of the parts should be very easy to get: two 74HCT573 latches, a 2MM & a 2.54MM connector, and part of a 34 pin ribbon cable from a PC (floppy cable). You would need a 2MM 44pin cable to attach the drive the board. |
| 10:06:21 | fontenot | this radio thing is really making me want a quiet computer room |
| 10:06:51 | fontenot | i also wish I didnt have the covers off all my PCs |
| 10:08:28 | TomW | From my experience, some motherboards are very noisy, but most are quiet. You'll have to experiment by turning stuff off to locate the offender. I just might be one machine. |
| 10:08:45 | TomW | s/I just/It just/ |
| 10:08:51 | mallum | TomW: nice |
| 10:10:14 | fontenot | wow |
| 10:10:39 | fontenot | fm broadcast sounds a lot better with the right filter |
| 10:10:54 | fontenot | i was at 50k and should have been at 230k |
| 10:11:19 | TomW | heh |
| 10:11:40 | fontenot | the problem with the linux control program for pcr-1000 is no band defaults |
| 10:12:06 | TomW | fontenot: you have the source code? |
| 10:12:50 | fontenot | TomW: yep. and more importantly the protocol desc (for the pcr-1000, not the th-f6a yet) |
| 10:15:53 | TomW | There is this ham that is selling a VOIP package with a circuit board + RH 6.2 to allow linking repeaters via the internet.. |
| 10:16:56 | TomW | I have one of his setups here. A friend wants to set one up. This thing is a binary only distro, wonder if he statically linked to libc? |
| 10:18:19 | file | yawns |
| 10:19:14 | fontenot | grrrrr |
| 10:25:25 | fontenot | time for bed |
| 10:27:56 | TomW | fontenot: later |
| 11:27:54 | Morn | is away: taking a short break |
| 11:28:14 | Morn | is away: watch this space for a revelation |
| 13:37:58 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 13:38:01 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 14:34:11 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:15:32) |
| 15:15:56 | Morn | hi everyone |
| 15:16:08 | prpplague | Morn: morn |
| 15:24:38 | prpplague | Russ: make any progress last night? |
| 15:40:36 | Russ | got a lot of information |
| 15:40:49 | Russ | wasn't able to pull the main partition off though |
| 15:40:49 | prpplague | Russ: cool |
| 15:40:59 | Russ | I'll probably need to get uuencode on there |
| 15:41:23 | Russ | I notice that ciit has no revervations about copyright violations |
| 15:41:35 | Russ | (ftp://www.ciiitech.co.kr) |
| 15:41:47 | prpplague | Russ: no response from korea yet, i'm going to contact some media ppls to see what help i can get |
| 15:41:53 | prpplague | Russ: ya i say that too |
| 15:42:42 | TomW | lyakh_working: yes, you are correct. The potqto has the gcc-2.95.2 in the devel dir. |
| 15:46:38 | lyakh_working | I didn't say that:-) it was fontenot. I suggested to use arm-linux-gcc-2.95.3 (2.95.2 is also disadvised). |
| 16:15:59 | prpplague | don't suppose anyone knows how to send a email to every user on an email server? |
| 16:17:27 | CosmicPenguin | echo "cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1 | mail |
| 16:17:30 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh! |
| 16:17:54 | CosmicPenguin | echo "Hello World" | mail -s Message `cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1` |
| 16:17:54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, more like someone else's server...... |
| 16:18:17 | CosmicPenguin | Ohhh.... |
| 16:18:34 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think there is any way to do that (at least, I hope there isn't) |
| 16:19:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so how do these spammers use wild cards to send to all the users on a system? |
| 16:19:27 | CosmicPenguin | Do they? I always thought that they had actual names |
| 16:19:42 | CosmicPenguin | attacks his spam folder looking for suspects |
| 16:20:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when we were on m$ email server, everyone in the company would get the same spam address such as "emailuser@foo.com" |
| 16:21:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of course now that we are using *nix, we don't have that problem |
| 16:22:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it could be possible... I must admit that I am not that wise in the ways of SMTP spoofing |
| 16:24:39 | CosmicPenguin | I see that gcc 3.1 is out..... |
| 16:25:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, me either, its just this korea company won't return my emails so i was thinking about trying to get their attention |
| 16:28:37 | prpplague | Russ: how about upload a bunch of SOMEONE.README files to their ftp server? lol |
| 16:36:07 | noidd | ello |
| 16:36:33 | CosmicPenguin | hi |
| 16:37:27 | noidd | hows things? |
| 16:37:57 | noidd | i did a list of channels on the server |
| 16:38:05 | noidd | and was curious about the topic |
| 16:38:20 | prpplague | Morn: so would you say i have a beer addicition if its only 11:30am and i'm ready for a cold one? |
| 16:38:21 | noidd | also - this the same Tim Riker of bzflag fame do you know? |
| 16:38:48 | prpplague | noidd: yes |
| 16:39:29 | noidd | small world |
| 16:40:05 | prpplague | noidd: Tim is also the the CTO of Embeddix IIRC |
| 16:40:19 | noidd | the tuxscreen URL is 404 and the refference off the front page is circular. |
| 16:40:31 | noidd | do i guess from the URL that its fake :-) |
| 16:40:48 | prpplague | which url is that? |
| 16:41:06 | noidd | taxscreen.net/fake.hmtl |
| 16:41:22 | noidd | even s/hmtl/html/g and its still 404 |
| 16:41:50 | prpplague | noidd: ya some script kiddie poped in for 30 secs a long time ago and put that in, but no one has ever changed it |
| 16:42:48 | prpplague | Russ|werk: welcome to the daily grind of paying the bills |
| 16:43:11 | noidd | in fact, mosts links to that website are busted |
| 16:43:14 | noidd | wiki etc too |
| 16:43:52 | prpplague | noidd: appears to work for me |
| 16:44:38 | noidd | looks confused |
| 16:44:46 | noidd | ah well, don;t understand |
| 17:25:45 | Hiraghm | Hi |
| 17:25:48 | Hiraghm | waves near everyone |
| 17:25:58 | Hiraghm | anybody here? |
| 17:26:35 | prpplague | Hiraghm: nobody here except us chickens |
| 17:26:48 | Hiraghm | Prp, does the tux have a usb port? |
| 17:27:52 | Hiraghm | I can't remember and it's not convenient to look atm |
| 17:28:04 | Russ|werk | nope |
| 17:28:14 | Hiraghm | Oh well, so much for that idea |
| 17:29:08 | Russ|werk | might be able to make a usb client mod |
| 17:31:04 | Hiraghm | I called in to a radio talk show the other day, and then sent me a DiskOnKey as a prize |
| 17:31:12 | Hiraghm | 32 meg version. |
| 17:31:46 | Hiraghm | (it's like a big keychain fob you plug into a USB port) |
| 17:31:59 | Hiraghm | I thought if my tux had a usb port, I could use it for storage |
| 18:34:11 | Morn | is back (gone 07:05:57) |
| 20:04:33 | | Test Failed! |
| 20:04:33 | fontenot_ | ibot: test |
| 20:38:16 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 20:38:41 | prpplague | as_: howdy |
| 20:38:47 | prpplague | as_: having fun today? |
| 20:39:12 | prpplague | as_: someone is spoofing my email address, i'm having fun tracking them down |
| 20:40:44 | as_ | Its a bit on the warm side for fun, but I'm not having my head torn off by wolves, so its not a terrible day. |
| 20:41:06 | prpplague | as_: lol |
| 20:41:52 | as_ | Why are they spoofing your email? |
| 20:42:31 | prpplague | as_: looks like someone has the klez and its sending out emails with my return address |
| 20:44:28 | as_ | klez? |
| 20:44:42 | prpplague | as_: winblows email virus |
| 20:45:06 | as_ | Ahh. |
| 20:47:21 | as_ | Anyone you annoyed recently you think it might be? |
| 20:48:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I got one from andersee the other day.... :) |
| 20:48:58 | CosmicPenguin | Well, not actually from andersee, but it had his return address... |
| 21:00:14 | kergoth | fyi the addition of uncompress (.Z) to unzip has broken the busybox build in cvs :-) |
| 21:20:23 | jacques | hi ho |
| 21:37:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh, well that makes me feel better |
| 22:05:13 | Morn | sighs. |
| 22:31:14 | jacques | goodnight dsl connection |
| 22:47:13 | jacques | hello dsl connection |