| 00:08:51 | Error403 | yes, they do :) |
| 00:30:15 | Error403 | I downloaded and flashed my new kernel, but I'm getting CRC errors now |
| 00:30:29 | Error403 | I am going to step down one from 115kbit serial to 56kbit |
| 00:34:42 | Error403 | wonders why this thing is giving him hell |
| 00:45:46 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:46:05 | scanline | which target in buildroot is supposed to generate /etc/shadow? |
| 00:47:39 | scanline | tries a clean build... |
| 00:49:05 | TomW | scanline: No one "generates" /etc/shadow, it is formed when the main Makefile copies the target_skeleton tree into the root image. |
| 00:49:39 | TomW | Error403: if you have CRC errors, try pressing RESET instead of just powering up. |
| 00:50:20 | Error403 | okay |
| 00:51:35 | Error403 | interesting |
| 00:51:37 | Error403 | that worked :/ |
| 00:51:53 | Error403 | now, to test my 3com card since the driver actually loaded with the 5v mod in the kernel |
| 00:55:43 | Error403 | hrm] |
| 00:55:59 | Error403 | that worked once, then the kernel fscked up and on reboot it had a CRC error again |
| 00:56:04 | Error403 | I think something is horribly wrong |
| 00:57:52 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 17 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: night [Sat Apr 13 08:02:18 2002] |
| 00:57:52 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: seen andersee? |
| 00:57:58 | CosmicPenguin | damn |
| 00:58:28 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: he must be enjoying a well deserved collapse. |
| 00:59:58 | Error403 | TomW: It's still getting CRC errors, I can't boot it anymore. These were happening before I made the 5v mod changes now that I think about it |
| 01:00:00 | andersee | hey |
| 01:00:07 | Error403 | TomW: So it must be something compiled wrong with the kernel |
| 01:00:13 | Error403 | I need a good kernel from someone :( |
| 01:00:17 | Error403 | andersee: hi |
| 01:00:23 | andersee | hi |
| 01:00:56 | TomW | Error403: more likely you have a hardware failure of some kind where the kernel is not being loaded properly. |
| 01:01:13 | Error403 | TomW: Then I was shipped a bad tuxscreen? |
| 01:01:17 | TomW | Error403: or, the romfs is not being correctly read. |
| 01:01:26 | scanline | hmm.. I started with a clean buildroot and I'm still getting this error: |
| 01:01:28 | Error403 | TomW: Like I said, I was having these errors before I ever opened the thing |
| 01:01:32 | scanline | mkfs.jffs2: /home/micah/sf/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/root/etc/shadow: file is must exist on disk! |
| 01:01:34 | TomW | Error403: well, you did hack around inside with a huge soldering gun.. |
| 01:01:39 | Error403 | no |
| 01:02:21 | Error403 | [20:05:37] <Error403> TomW: Like I said, I was having these errors before I ever opened the thing |
| 01:02:31 | TomW | andersee: CosmicPenguin was looking for you just a few ago. |
| 01:03:03 | TomW | hmm, dunno |
| 01:03:16 | Error403 | It started when I wanted to put familiar on there |
| 01:03:30 | Error403 | I needed a kernel with PPP support |
| 01:03:47 | Error403 | so Tim compiled one for me, and I started having those CRC errors with his kernel |
| 01:03:51 | Error403 | then all of a sudden, it stopped |
| 01:03:58 | Error403 | (after one of my flashes) |
| 01:04:48 | scanline | andersee: any ideas about this buildroot problem? I've got it fixed uup to build picogui again (I made some changes to the build system that broke it) but now mkfs.jffs2 is choking on /etc/shadow |
| 01:05:16 | andersee | /etc/shadow? |
| 01:05:19 | andersee | Details? |
| 01:05:56 | scanline | mkfs.jffs2: /home/micah/sf/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/root/etc/shadow: file is must exist on disk! |
| 01:07:08 | TomW | scanline: is there a /home/micah/sf/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/root/etc/shadow ? |
| 01:07:35 | TomW | scanline: how about a /home/micah/sf/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/target_skeleton/etc/shadow ? |
| 01:07:50 | scanline | TomW: nope and yes |
| 01:08:11 | TomW | Ok, your copy failed in buildroot-tux/Makefile then. |
| 01:08:36 | scanline | this line, i assume: |
| 01:08:38 | scanline | cp -a target_skeleton/* $(TARGET_DIR)/ |
| 01:08:59 | scanline | doh |
| 01:09:06 | TomW | The Makefile lousy about building the romfs. There is no detection to see if the target_skeleton is needed. |
| 01:09:14 | scanline | I bet there are some empty directories missing when I checked it out of CVS |
| 01:09:23 | TomW | Try a 'make clean ; make' and it should build it. |
| 01:09:38 | scanline | I don't have a stage directory |
| 01:09:57 | scanline | I updated CVS with -PdA and that doesn't download empty directories |
| 01:10:09 | scanline | might be handy to put a small placeholder file in those for people like me :) |
| 01:10:14 | TomW | staging doesn't exist from, I think it is created later in the build. |
| 01:10:26 | TomW | s/from/from cvs/ |
| 01:10:27 | scanline | well, I did have to create 'build' myself |
| 01:12:34 | TomW | |
| 01:12:35 | TomW | $(BUILD_DIR): |
| 01:12:35 | TomW | mkdir $(BUILD_DIR) |
| 01:12:35 | TomW | |
| 01:12:35 | TomW | $(STAGING_DIR): |
| 01:12:35 | TomW | rm -rf $(STAGING_DIR) |
| 01:12:37 | TomW | mkdir $(STAGING_DIR) |
| 01:22:59 | scanline | doh... the 'make clean; make' worked fine (wonder what was wrong...) |
| 01:23:00 | BZFlag | scanline: rm -rf root;make |
| 01:23:16 | scanline | BZFlag: that might have been faster :) |
| 01:24:46 | Error403 | heh |
| 01:24:50 | Error403 | I crashed minicom |
| 01:26:36 | Error403 | has it actually been tested that only one slot can be 5v? |
| 01:26:40 | Error403 | Or is it just assumed? |
| 01:27:27 | BZFlag | no, none/either/both have all been tested |
| 01:27:54 | scanline | hmm... |
| 01:28:08 | scanline | any reason "dd if=kernel of=/dev/mtd1" shouldn't work? |
| 01:28:35 | BZFlag | try /dev/mtdblock1;sync |
| 01:28:39 | scanline | k |
| 01:28:56 | scanline | ah, that's working |
| 01:28:57 | Error403 | BZFlag: Well, in that case, I think my tuxscreen is messed up |
| 01:28:59 | scanline | i think |
| 01:29:00 | Error403 | BZFlag: Not sure though |
| 01:29:22 | Error403 | BZFlag: The 5v modification in the kernel didn't help. I'm still getting kernel panics |
| 01:29:35 | BZFlag | Error403: buy another one. =) |
| 01:29:39 | Error403 | hehe |
| 01:29:51 | scanline | yay.. much nicer than flashing over serial, assuming this works |
| 01:29:51 | Error403 | I wish I could |
| 01:30:15 | Error403 | I owe the IRS too much money :/ |
| 01:31:46 | | bzflag is TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 01:31:46 | tad_ | ibot, bzflag |
| 01:31:55 | | bzflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: Error403: buy another one. =) [Sun Apr 14 02:29:35 2002] |
| 01:31:55 | tad_ | ibot, seen bzflag |
| 01:32:20 | BZFlag | tad_: sup? |
| 01:32:25 | tad_ | :) |
| 01:32:32 | tad_ | nothin |
| 01:33:07 | tad_ | I got into the WIKI finaly |
| 01:33:32 | tad_ | I could not make a new user for about 6 mouths, but now it works |
| 01:37:57 | scanline | well... kernel works fine. I messed up flashing root, so I'll have to rearrange stuff to make the serial cable reach.. |
| 01:42:45 | tad_ | HEY! |
| 01:43:23 | yesod | hi |
| 01:43:52 | tad_ | you have a tuxscreen? |
| 01:51:01 | scanline | wow... a lot has changed in buildroot since i last used it |
| 01:51:05 | scanline | dhcp works, yay! |
| 01:51:21 | BZFlag | scanline: heh, glad you like it. ;-) |
| 01:51:29 | scanline | indeed! |
| 01:51:46 | scanline | and I got picogui to compile fine, though it definitely needs some updating. I shall do that now. |
| 01:53:00 | BZFlag | cool. |
| 02:52:08 | andersee | jacques_gone: I think Manuel and I _finally_ found the real problem with XFree86 linking! |
| 03:11:44 | scanline | ack! microwindows ate my tuxscreen... |
| 03:11:59 | scanline | oh.. just my inittab |
| 03:13:05 | BZFlag | andersee: good news! so who's adding tinyx to buildroot? ;-) |
| 03:18:13 | andersee | Turns out that due to GNU ld's desire to do single pass linking that when main() is in a static lib (.a) the linker does not pull the .o file with main() into the final link. By adding a dummy reference to main() in crt0.o I can fix it. |
| 03:18:59 | andersee | I'm busy implementing the fix, but a quick test on x86 shows that it works |
| 03:21:45 | BZFlag | ah, that makes sense in a non-sensical kinda way |
| 03:36:03 | Aelhaz | might be nice to have tinyx in buildroot |
| 03:36:07 | andersee | BZFlag: Ok, committed the fix and anon CVS has been updated. Tested on x86, arm, and powerpc so far.... Fixin on powerpc |
| 03:36:21 | andersee | Works fine on x86 and arm |
| 03:36:54 | andersee | K, I've got a solution for powerpc now too. Committing that in a sec |
| 03:38:33 | Aelhaz | i might end up leaving the valley for good. |
| 03:38:54 | Aelhaz | my older brother jens is setting up admin work for me in chicago |
| 03:39:51 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: my brother is in Chicago. He likes it. just be far enough away from the city. ;-) |
| 03:40:34 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: heh |
| 03:41:09 | Aelhaz | I've got two brothers plus sisters-in-law and an uncle in the greater chicago area |
| 03:41:12 | Aelhaz | plus a few friends |
| 03:41:35 | Aelhaz | uncle's a physics researcher for the gummint, so he's interesting company |
| 03:42:36 | Aelhaz | i'm afraid, at my pay scale, I'll be pretty much in the city |
| 03:42:41 | andersee | BZFlag: k, fixed across the board now. I have updated anon CVS and the daily snapshot.... |
| 03:42:49 | andersee | is away: eating dinner |
| 03:44:02 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: at any rate, currently what Tallan wants to offer me is a 3 month contract to work in a sortof QA/admin position for a company they consult for, that's owned by the same company tallan is, and coincidentally shares the same office space they do |
| 03:44:32 | Aelhaz | and they're pretty sure they want to hire me when the contract phase is over. they've got a fiscal year ending july 31 and 200k unspent budget |
| 03:44:40 | Aelhaz | and want to pay me $50/hr for 3 months |
| 03:45:34 | Aelhaz | dunno what salary would be like after that |
| 03:45:53 | Aelhaz | if nothing else, it's not like i have anyone *else calling me up and offering me a bucket of cash |
| 04:04:33 | scanline | is away: i have no idea why |
| 04:19:50 | | 104000 |
| 04:19:50 | BZFlag | ibot 50 * 40 * 52 |
| 04:23:20 | Aelhaz | yeah, buckets. but only for 3 months. way less if/when they offer me a salaried position |
| 05:28:29 | scanline | is back (gone 01:23:56) |
| 08:49:16 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzz |
| 18:08:59 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 14 hours, 26 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: is away: eating dinner [Sun Apr 14 04:42:48 2002] |
| 18:08:59 | Tangent | ibot seen andersee |
| 18:16:47 | scanline | is back (gone 09:27:31) |
| 18:23:19 | scanline | hacks on the touchscreen driver... |
| 19:29:40 | scanline | is away: The pseudofood continues... or "I Can't Believe It's Not Nuclear Waste!" |
| 19:32:46 | Tangent | Heh... that's my kinda food :) |
| 19:51:13 | scanline | is back (gone 00:21:33) |
| 20:01:03 | scanline | indeed |
| 21:00:47 | KeyserSoze | anyone home? |
| 21:00:47 | | hey, scanline |
| 21:00:47 | scanline | KeyserSoze: hello |
| 21:00:51 | | hello, scanline |
| 21:00:51 | scanline | hi ibot |
| 21:00:59 | KeyserSoze | hey, scanline. long time no see. |
| 21:01:02 | scanline | ;) |
| 21:02:11 | KeyserSoze | can i put a bunch of diode in parallel, and get less voltage drop across them? |
| 21:02:19 | KeyserSoze | s/diode/diodes |
| 21:02:20 | scanline | I'm not sure |
| 21:04:16 | BZFlag | KeyserSoze: yes, but that also allows more voltage to backflow. |
| 21:05:05 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag: I have a dc-dc converter that is supposed to output 5v. it outputs 5.3 volts, even with a load on it. |
| 21:05:27 | KeyserSoze | i'd like to drop the voltage 0.3V with a diode, but cannot find any with that low of a forward voltage drop. |
| 21:06:06 | KeyserSoze | (it's not for the tuxscreen, and not related to the DC-DC converter I mentioned on the tux mailing list this morning) |
| 21:07:35 | BZFlag | not sure. |
| 21:10:47 | KeyserSoze | do you know where i can find a diode with less than 0.5V forward voltage drop, that I can put 20W through? |
| 22:41:42 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 23:06:52 | scanline | is back (gone 00:25:10) |
| 23:07:47 | scanline | GoRK: Oh yea.. I hacked up the picogui touchscreen driver a bunch and committed it to CVS |
| 23:07:51 | scanline | I dunno yet if it works |
| 23:08:42 | scanline | but now it uses the new interface, and I changed the penup code a little so that it looks like it works.. I don't know why the old code worked at all ;) |
| 23:08:51 | scanline | but I haven't tested it yet |
| 23:23:18 | GoRK | scanline: haha i dont think it did work! |
| 23:23:23 | GoRK | the old code i mean |
| 23:24:29 | scanline | :) |
| 23:25:19 | sjm | thinks the topic deserves it's own wiki page :) |