| 00:00:18 | andersee | Tangent: clearly I should be using endian.h anyways |
| 00:00:20 | Tangent | andersee: Cool... not just me than :) |
| 00:00:29 | andersee | fixes it |
| 00:00:35 | Tangent | excellent :D |
| 00:00:59 | BZFlag | TomW: cool. well I gotta run. |
| 00:01:04 | BZFlag | on later. |
| 00:01:27 | TomW | BZFlag: Otherwise, seems ok. I Flashed with Inferno with the boards installed in the case. When it failed, I removed them and used the JTAG to Flash blob in, but JTAG was very unstable until I rested my hand on the CPU board and then it finally put blob into it. |
| 00:16:44 | Tangent | andersee: Looks like this bit is failing for me... but not always... local typ="$(eval echo \$$(( $a+2 )))" |
| 00:17:03 | andersee | Which shell? |
| 00:17:08 | Tangent | andersee: ash |
| 00:17:25 | andersee | Was it you I sent that ash patch to try out? |
| 00:17:39 | andersee | has a patch for ash in testing... |
| 00:18:27 | Tangent | andersee: Nope.. woudln't have been me |
| 00:19:09 | andersee | Wanna try it? |
| 00:20:01 | andersee | msg Tangent To jim@secret.org.uk? You have to promise to let me know if it helps? |
| 00:20:24 | Tangent | andersee: Sure.. I'll test it right now |
| 00:21:27 | andersee | Tangent: This version of ash.c is currently for busybox 0.60.3, but should drop in fairly easily... |
| 00:21:42 | andersee | Tangent: Minor changes needed |
| 00:26:00 | andersee | Tangent: K, modutils/insmod.c is fixed |
| 00:26:37 | Tangent | andersee: Cool.. I'll pull it down |
| 00:29:01 | Tangent | wishes the kernel had framebuffer fonts smaller than 8 point... |
| 00:33:43 | Tangent | builds with new insmod.c |
| 00:35:32 | Tangent | decided that he was wrong about the reason why ash was dying, and now just doesn't know why it's segfaulting... |
| 00:37:46 | Tangent | insmod.c:3108: `ELFDATAM' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 00:38:37 | Tangent | I deleted the old insmod.c and re-grabbed with cvs... I thought it looked the same |
| 00:39:22 | andersee | Oh. |
| 00:39:43 | andersee | Lemme push my changes out to the anon CVS server... |
| 00:40:00 | Tangent | aha... anon serve... yep.. that's me :) |
| 00:40:41 | andersee | done |
| 00:41:19 | Tangent | building |
| 00:42:02 | Tangent | andersee: Did you send that mail too? It's not arrived yet |
| 00:42:33 | andersee | was adjusting ash for 0.61 |
| 00:42:51 | Tangent | andersee: Ah.. cool... I'm quite happy for you to do all the hard work :) |
| 00:43:56 | jacques | heh |
| 00:44:14 | Tangent | is smart enough to know when he's onto a good thing... |
| 00:49:48 | jacques | it's a good think andersee doesn't know I'm the one who told you he's Eric Andersen |
| 00:50:57 | andersee | jacques: But I'm not Eric Andersen |
| 00:52:18 | jacques | Erik then |
| 00:52:20 | jacques | :-D |
| 00:52:55 | andersee | hehe |
| 00:53:09 | Tangent | andersee: Successful build with new insmod.c |
| 00:54:14 | andersee | Tangent: just sent you ash.c for 0.61.... |
| 00:54:53 | Tangent | andersee: Ok.. excellent... I'll rebuild then :) |
| 01:00:58 | pmisfit | jacques: i have an x makefile partially completed if you want it. |
| 01:02:07 | Tangent | Cool.. my iPAQ still boots with the fixed insmod code... (thought I'd check) |
| 01:04:52 | jacques | pmisfit: cooool! |
| 01:06:05 | pmisfit | jacques: shall i email it? need your addr. |
| 01:10:36 | pmisfit | jacques: hmm. wait, i'll try sending it thru irc first |
| 01:11:16 | Tangent | wonders if maybe his network couldn't be a little less secure and a little more useable... Have to ftp ash.c to a box on the net because my WLAN is untrusted, and then wget |
| 01:20:45 | Tangent | make[2]: Circular /usr/src/busybox/include/pwd.h <- /usr/src/busybox/include/pwd.h |
| 01:20:45 | Tangent | dependency dropped. |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | In file included from /usr/src/busybox/include/busybox.h:27, |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | from ash.c:116: |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | ash.c:45: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | d |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | ash.c:50: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 01:21:08 | Tangent | ash.c:12911: warning: `CONFIG_ASH_ALIAS' redefined |
| 01:21:18 | Tangent | ash.c:12916: warning: `CONFIG_ASH_MATH_SUPPORT' redefined |
| 01:21:34 | Tangent | ash.c:13155: warning: `INTON' redefined |
| 01:22:03 | Tangent | gives up after that |
| 01:24:29 | Tangent | (none):/usr/src/busybox/shell# grep INTON * |
| 01:24:36 | Tangent | ash.c:#define INTON { if (--suppressint == 0 && intpending) onint(); } |
| 01:24:36 | Tangent | ash.c:#define FORCEINTON {suppressint = 0; if (intpending) onint();} |
| 01:24:47 | Tangent | doh.. wong line... |
| 01:24:59 | Tangent | ash.c:#define INTON __inton() |
| 01:25:15 | Tangent | notes that this is somewhat off topic and high traffic... |
| 01:25:21 | Tangent | hope no-one's too offended |
| 01:27:07 | jacques | not i |
| 01:28:06 | Tangent | I don't see how INTO can be getting redefined tho' |
| 01:28:57 | Tangent | BZFlag: Hey |
| 01:37:18 | andersee | Tangent: remove ash.c, lines 42-62 |
| 01:37:37 | andersee | err |
| 01:37:39 | andersee | Tangent: remove ash.c, lines 42-66 |
| 01:50:45 | Tangent | Done.... recompiling |
| 01:50:57 | BZFlag | what's wrong with ash? |
| 01:51:27 | Tangent | BZFlag: segfaults whist running debootstrap |
| 01:51:55 | andersee | BZFlag: Tangent is testing some devel stuff for me to see if it helps |
| 01:51:56 | BZFlag | job control? that's what you are removing? |
| 01:52:30 | andersee | BZFlag: This is busybox unstable -- that config stuff is redundant in that version |
| 01:52:34 | Tangent | BZFlag: Nope.... this is ash from busybox 0.60.3 grafter onto 0.61pre |
| 01:52:58 | Tangent | grafted |
| 01:54:10 | andersee | Tangent: Well, a _heavily_ modified version from 0.60.3... |
| 01:54:37 | BZFlag | heh |
| 01:55:18 | Tangent | andersee: Well.. initially failed to compile... trying again with a make clean first |
| 01:56:55 | sjm | eekk - just struck a nasty problem - patch was dying**** write error : No space left on device |
| 01:57:40 | sjm | but the build partition has heaps of space. the partition /tmp is mounted on though is nearly full. |
| 01:57:59 | sjm | need to set TMPDIR to point somewhere else |
| 01:58:51 | Tangent | prpplague : Hey |
| 01:59:01 | | hello, prpplague |
| 01:59:01 | prpplague | Tangent: howdy |
| 01:59:13 | prpplague | Tangent: hows the home automation going? |
| 01:59:25 | Tangent | prpplague: Suffered a major setback lately... |
| 01:59:41 | prpplague | Tangent: something fail the smoke test? |
| 01:59:53 | Tangent | prpplague: Discovered that at some point in time, I've overwritten my PIC code source tree with an older version... |
| 02:00:01 | Tangent | lost about a month's worth of changes... |
| 02:00:06 | prpplague | doh |
| 02:00:13 | prpplague | i hate it when that happens |
| 02:00:21 | Tangent | then... to top it all off.... my lvm setup went wrong, and I can't get to any of it at the moment. |
| 02:00:36 | Tangent | I had a 'bad computing' day... |
| 02:00:50 | Tangent | I knew earlier in the day that I should go and watch TV instead |
| 02:01:12 | prpplague | Tangent: lol, or head to the pub |
| 02:01:20 | Tangent | andersee: It's still bitching that CONFIG_ASH_ALIAS, CONFIG_ASH_MATH_SUPPORT and INTCON are redefined. |
| 02:01:36 | Tangent | and giving up after the INTCON bitch |
| 02:03:10 | Tangent | hurm... it looks like I didn't remove the lines.. |
| 02:03:21 | Tangent | doesn't understand how that's possible... but still... |
| 02:03:31 | BZFlag | Tangent should read "man cvs" |
| 02:03:56 | Tangent | BZFlag: man vi may be more appropriate |
| 02:04:05 | andersee | Tangent: did you remove lines 42-66 in the ash.c I sent you? |
| 02:04:26 | Tangent | andersee: I thought i had... but when I just restored the original to check, it was the same... |
| 02:04:30 | Tangent | recompiling right now |
| 02:04:48 | Tangent | with 42-66 removed correctly this time... |
| 02:07:20 | BZFlag | Tangent: you could setup local cvs and then be able to back up. ;-) |
| 02:08:57 | Tangent | andersee: Nope... it's not me... same errors as before |
| 02:12:31 | pmisfit | notices mention of local cvs |
| 02:14:30 | Tangent | seems to have a messed up file... |
| 02:14:41 | Tangent | seems to contain two copies of itself |
| 02:15:24 | BZFlag | wonders why pmisfit mentioned it |
| 02:20:00 | andersee | Tangent: you copied ash.c to the shell directory? |
| 02:20:42 | Tangent | andersee: Yeah... well.. actually, I saved out the email... ftp'd it to my box on the net, and then used wget on the iPAQ to fetch it down, and vi to get rid of the headers |
| 02:21:01 | Tangent | andersee: I wasn't expecting two copies of the message in there... I guess my mail client must be strange |
| 02:21:15 | Tangent | Better... now I've got a whole new set of errors :) |
| 02:21:46 | andersee | Tangent: heck, if youd told me I'd have just posted the file on codepoet.org |
| 02:22:07 | Tangent | andersee: Might still be a good idea :) |
| 02:22:54 | Tangent | it's bitching about jmp_buf on line 2023, but it looks fine to me.... there may be some stray linewrapping that's happened |
| 02:23:14 | Tangent | just downloaded a different mail client |
| 02:24:49 | andersee | Tangent: http://codepoet.org/ash.c |
| 02:25:40 | Tangent | andersee: Yeah.. that's about half the size of the one I had |
| 02:26:34 | Tangent | Compiling now |
| 02:28:34 | pmisfit | BZFlag: at some point, i'll want to set up a vendor branch/import here |
| 02:29:09 | pmisfit | BZFlag: but the cvs docs only mention it briefly, and don't discuss committing to multiple repositories |
| 02:29:24 | pmisfit | BZFlag: with the same sources, if that makes any sense. |
| 02:29:57 | pmisfit | BZFlag: so i'll be googling around for howtos, tutorials, etc on that soon. |
| 02:42:28 | Tangent | andersee: It built :D |
| 02:42:40 | andersee | :-) |
| 02:42:46 | andersee | Lemme know if it works |
| 02:42:53 | Tangent | builind a new initrd to test with now |
| 02:58:01 | Tangent | andersee: Hrm... I think I prefered the old ash which just segfaulted... |
| 02:58:35 | andersee | This is worse? |
| 02:58:56 | Tangent | andersee: Doesn't get as far through debootstrap.... nowhere near as far... |
| 02:59:16 | Tangent | andersee: I'll investigate a little further before I pass final judgement |
| 03:00:58 | andersee | k, thx |
| 03:06:15 | Tangent | SUITE="$1" |
| 03:06:16 | Tangent | TARGET="$2" |
| 03:06:16 | Tangent | if [ "${TARGET#/}" = "${TARGET}" ]; then |
| 03:06:16 | Tangent | if [ "${TARGET%/*}" = "$TARGET" ] ; then |
| 03:06:16 | Tangent | TARGET="$(echo `pwd`/$TARGET)" |
| 03:06:16 | Tangent | else |
| 03:06:18 | Tangent | TARGET="$(cd ${TARGET%/*}; echo `pwd`/${TARGET##*/})" |
| 03:06:20 | Tangent | fi |
| 03:06:22 | Tangent | fi |
| 03:06:33 | Tangent | + SUITE=woody |
| 03:06:33 | Tangent | + TARGET=/mnt/intimate/test/ |
| 03:06:33 | Tangent | + [ , |
| 03:06:33 | Tangent | [: , |
| 03:06:33 | Tangent | : unknown operand |
| 03:06:45 | Tangent | erm... huh... what? |
| 03:07:02 | Tangent | doh.. line missing... |
| 03:07:22 | andersee | Tangent: Enable "CONFIG_TEST" in busybox |
| 03:07:49 | Tangent | andersee: OK |
| 03:07:57 | andersee | Tangent: Under Shell utils |
| 03:10:59 | Tangent | andersee: It's already switched on |
| 03:11:14 | andersee | Hmm. |
| 03:11:56 | Tangent | the 0.61pre ash ran through smoothly until it segfaulted... same as with 0.60.2 |
| 03:12:44 | Tangent | I really gotta go and get some sleep now... it's 4:15AM here... |
| 03:12:58 | Tangent | andersee: thanks for your help tonight... |
| 03:13:14 | Tangent | andersee: Maybe you'll think of something whilst I'm dreaming |
| 03:13:20 | Tangent | Night all |
| 03:15:55 | andersee | night |
| 03:35:16 | jacques | night Tangent |
| 03:39:54 | BZFlag | pmisfit: diff the two trees or diff against the vendor branch. take that patch and apply it to a checkout of the vendor cvs server, then commit. or mail the patch to a maintainer. |
| 03:40:23 | BZFlag | it's a good idea to edit the patch file and remove all the unrelated changes, then try the edited patch. |
| 03:43:01 | Error403 | steps in |
| 03:43:23 | Error403 | anyone alive? :/ |
| 03:49:35 | andersee | no. |
| 03:53:30 | Error403 | heh |
| 03:53:31 | Error403 | hey :) |
| 03:53:56 | andersee | ;-) |
| 03:54:08 | Error403 | andersee: I saw all of the uclibc changes, I'm excited. I see something about moding the tuxscreen to do 5v PCMCIA |
| 03:54:57 | Error403 | not sure if that's a good idea or not :) |
| 03:55:02 | andersee | Been there, done that, works (re uclibc and re 5V pcmcia) |
| 03:55:44 | Error403 | well, it'd be cool to not have to buy a new NIC for it |
| 03:55:54 | Error403 | but right now I just want to get uclibc to work :) |
| 03:56:10 | andersee | k. |
| 03:56:21 | andersee | Well, you are talking to the right guy... |
| 03:56:22 | Error403 | Can you tell me how in the world I'm suppose to get this SD->PCMCIA card to work on the tuxscreen? |
| 03:56:24 | Error403 | heh |
| 03:56:55 | Error403 | Is it even possible without needing to re-compile the kernel? :/ |
| 03:57:08 | andersee | What is an SD->PCMCIA card? |
| 03:58:00 | Error403 | an adapter card |
| 03:58:37 | Error403 | hold on a sec |
| 03:58:49 | andersee | holds his breath |
| 03:58:53 | BZFlag | pcmcia card that takes an SD card? |
| 03:59:02 | BZFlag | try it on a laptop first. |
| 03:59:37 | BZFlag | if it looks like an ide drive, then you are all set. might just need to add an entry to /etc/pcmcia/config and it will work. |
| 04:00:04 | andersee | is reworking the busybox unstable build system so he can stand using it |
| 04:00:06 | BZFlag | if it looks like a "memory device" I have no idea what driver to use. |
| 04:00:48 | BZFlag | if it looks like a "stinking custom vendor propriatary device" (note the stinking) then just throw it out. |
| 04:01:15 | Error403 | ok |
| 04:01:28 | Error403 | I was going to take a picture of it, but I couldn't find the camera |
| 04:01:32 | Error403 | it shows up as hdb |
| 04:01:35 | Error403 | which is good :) |
| 04:01:39 | Error403 | (I guess ;) ) |
| 04:01:40 | BZFlag | heh. vendor and model number? |
| 04:01:52 | BZFlag | hdb on the tux? then you're done. |
| 04:01:56 | Error403 | no |
| 04:01:58 | Error403 | on the laptop |
| 04:02:13 | Error403 | Sandisk |
| 04:02:25 | Error403 | I don't know the model, but I think they only have one SD->PCMCIA |
| 04:02:27 | Error403 | actuall |
| 04:02:28 | Error403 | y |
| 04:02:34 | Error403 | MMC->PCMCIA |
| 04:02:36 | BZFlag | hmm... on the laptop it should look like at least hde no? or is you laptop scsi?!? |
| 04:02:50 | Error403 | sorry, it was hdc :) |
| 04:03:19 | Error403 | hda is the one IDE drive, hdb is the cd, and the driver assigned it as hdc |
| 04:03:51 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 04:04:27 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:36) |
| 04:05:34 | Error403 | when I put in the card it spits out "shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't preform reset" :( |
| 04:05:43 | Error403 | not sure if that really is just a warning or not ;) |
| 04:08:20 | BZFlag | http://www.picstop.co.uk/pages/products/pccard/pcmcia.htm |
| 04:08:34 | BZFlag | the non-reset warning is fine. |
| 04:08:46 | Error403 | yup |
| 04:08:48 | BZFlag | cat /proc/partitions and see if there is a hd* |
| 04:08:48 | Error403 | that's it |
| 04:09:11 | Error403 | none |
| 04:09:21 | BZFlag | got fdisk on the tux? |
| 04:09:47 | Error403 | nope |
| 04:09:54 | BZFlag | andersee: what happened to the sfdisk make? |
| 04:10:20 | Error403 | just the default image |
| 04:10:23 | BZFlag | what does "cardctl ident" show? |
| 04:10:45 | Error403 | ahh |
| 04:11:12 | Error403 | "Panasonic", "ATA", "BN-SD Series 1.10 " |
| 04:11:14 | BZFlag | ahh? |
| 04:11:35 | Error403 | manfid 0x0032, 0x0041 |
| 04:12:15 | BZFlag | ok, you need an entry in /etc/pcmcia/config that matches. |
| 04:14:02 | Error403 | okay, what driver should it be bound to? |
| 04:14:24 | BZFlag | something like: card "Panasonic BN-SD" |
| 04:14:50 | BZFlag | version "Panasonic", "ATA" |
| 04:14:58 | BZFlag | bind "ide-cs" |
| 04:15:00 | Error403 | ahh |
| 04:15:00 | Error403 | ok |
| 04:15:09 | BZFlag | add that and then restart cardmgr |
| 04:15:30 | andersee | BZFlag: I have it. Want it? |
| 04:16:04 | BZFlag | andersee: add it ;-) |
| 04:16:32 | Error403 | BZFlag: is the "Series 1.10 " part relevent? |
| 04:16:41 | BZFlag | Error403: should not be. |
| 04:17:51 | andersee | BZFlag: k, done |
| 04:18:32 | BZFlag | why is my kernel deleting itself? |
| 04:18:49 | andersee | It has a death wish? |
| 04:18:56 | Error403 | woo hoo! |
| 04:19:01 | Error403 | it picked it up |
| 04:19:07 | Error403 | is a very happy man |
| 04:19:25 | Error403 | turns on his laptop and prepares to get uclibc rolling |
| 04:19:39 | BZFlag | "make" started by doing a rm -rf build/linux =( |
| 04:19:57 | BZFlag | Error403: pleased to hear it. |
| 04:20:35 | BZFlag | you can create a panasonicide.cfg with those lines and drop that file in there for new deploys. |
| 04:21:11 | Error403 | rgr that |
| 04:21:34 | Error403 | It just sounds like getting uclibc is going to be a big pain in the ass to get running :/ |
| 04:21:49 | BZFlag | better yet, submit the contents and the card info to: |
| 04:22:29 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=2405&atid=302405 |
| 04:22:47 | BZFlag | and the next pcmcia release will include support for your card. |
| 04:23:07 | Error403 | cool |
| 04:23:08 | andersee | Error403: why is uclibc going to be a pain? |
| 04:24:41 | Error403 | not sure, because I'm going to have to install it onto my sd card? |
| 04:24:47 | Error403 | since there's no space on the flash (obviously) |
| 04:24:59 | Error403 | wait |
| 04:25:02 | Error403 | there's 1.7 megs |
| 04:25:03 | Error403 | hmm |
| 04:25:04 | BZFlag | Error403: check out buildroot, build stuff, copy the fs over to mmc. easy |
| 04:25:24 | Error403 | well, hard is anything more than automake and autoconf ;) |
| 04:25:29 | Error403 | but that doesn't say much :) |
| 04:25:36 | BZFlag | oh, yeah. you might want to fill up the internal first. ;-) |
| 04:26:00 | BZFlag | Error403: there is a ton of stuff in buildroot that's not on the base image. |
| 04:26:07 | Error403 | hmm |
| 04:26:10 | Error403 | like? |
| 04:26:19 | BZFlag | microwindows, picogui, openssl, etc. openssh on the way. browse in: |
| 04:26:43 | BZFlag | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/make/ |
| 04:26:49 | Error403 | I don't want any of those :) |
| 04:26:50 | scanline | is away: ZZZZZzzzZzz |
| 04:26:58 | Error403 | I'm a Qt whore, that's my objective tonight :) |
| 04:27:13 | Error403 | and if I can't get that, I will fiddle with other stuff |
| 04:27:28 | BZFlag | that will be a challenge. |
| 04:27:48 | BZFlag | c++ code is new in uclibc and nobody has built qt against it yet. |
| 04:28:00 | Error403 | shrugs :) |
| 04:28:04 | BZFlag | how bit is the mmc? |
| 04:28:07 | Error403 | 64megs |
| 04:28:11 | Error403 | :) |
| 04:28:24 | BZFlag | you could install familiar on it and pivot_root there. |
| 04:28:35 | BZFlag | that's glibc based. |
| 04:28:50 | BZFlag | and debian-arm packages mostly work there too. |
| 04:29:18 | BZFlag | the opie project has qtopia on familiar. |
| 04:29:36 | Error403 | hmm |
| 04:29:42 | Error403 | ok |
| 04:30:02 | Error403 | what do you recommend I do, familiar or the tuxscreen-root? :/ |
| 04:31:11 | Error403 | I like the idea of familiar |
| 04:31:13 | Error403 | personally |
| 04:34:08 | Error403 | BZFlag: Still with me? :) |
| 04:42:02 | Error403 | [sigh] |
| 04:42:06 | Error403 | andersee: there? :) |
| 04:42:57 | andersee | sortof busy, but yea |
| 04:44:46 | Error403 | Do I install the familiar ipkgs onto the SD card via the ipkg script on another machine (my laptop for example) |
| 04:46:51 | andersee | dunno |
| 04:47:08 | andersee | I expect the familiar site may have more detail.... |
| 04:57:46 | Error403 | KDE on the TuxScreen anyone? ;) |
| 04:58:47 | andersee | I doubt it has enough ram, unless you get swap over NFS or swap over nbd working... |
| 04:58:54 | Error403 | andersee: Ohh, I forgot to ask you, how hard is it to get v5 PCMCIA to work? |
| 04:58:58 | Error403 | yes, that's what I'm going to try to do |
| 04:59:37 | andersee | Not too bad. took me 15 minutes with a soldering iron... |
| 04:59:46 | Error403 | hmm |
| 05:01:20 | andersee | http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard/tuxscreen-5v-pcmcia-hack/index.html |
| 05:02:56 | Error403 | interesting |
| 05:04:04 | Error403 | I think I might do it tomorrow |
| 05:04:05 | andersee | Personally, I soldered in a switch to let me switch back to 3v, but I've never flipped it back... |
| 05:04:36 | andersee | This is mine: http://www.codepoet.org/pcmcia/sd820021.jpg |
| 05:04:55 | Error403 | ahh |
| 05:05:00 | Error403 | has a switch |
| 05:05:06 | Error403 | cool :) |
| 05:05:27 | pmisfit | is away: eating |
| 05:06:27 | BZFlag | Error403: back. buildroot is fine if you want to use internal flash or port stuff. familiar is a better (easier) choice if you have the space. |
| 05:08:22 | Error403 | ok |
| 05:08:42 | Error403 | do I get an ipkg script and install all of the ipkgs to the SD? |
| 05:09:40 | Error403 | I've been reading around on the familiar page |
| 05:09:47 | Error403 | can't seem to find the actual script |
| 05:12:18 | Error403 | BZFlag: I think the install instructions assume you use their root image (which probably contains the ipkg script) |
| 05:12:26 | Error403 | although I think my Zaurus has one :/ |
| 05:23:50 | BZFlag | Error403: and you should. |
| 05:24:18 | BZFlag | just install the root image tarball (not the jffs2 image) onto an ext2 filesystem on the mmc card. |
| 05:25:28 | Error403 | hrm |
| 05:25:32 | Error403 | where is their root image? |
| 05:25:35 | BZFlag | then fix /linuxrc to pivot_root to your card. actually this is probably just adding or editing the linuxrc from the tarball so that there is a linuxrc on /dev/hda1 |
| 05:25:38 | Error403 | I just see the packages and the kernels |
| 05:26:46 | BZFlag | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/install/H3100/install.html |
| 05:26:47 | Error403 | is it called :task-bootstrap.jffs2" |
| 05:26:58 | Error403 | k |
| 05:27:14 | BZFlag | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/install/H3100/task-bootstrap-2.4.16-rmk1-hh15.tar.gz |
| 05:27:43 | BZFlag | oops that's mono... |
| 05:28:01 | Error403 | do I want to use their kernel? |
| 05:28:11 | BZFlag | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/install/H3100/task-bootstrap.tar.gz |
| 05:28:20 | BZFlag | not thier kernels or modules. |
| 05:28:28 | Error403 | that's what I thought |
| 05:28:37 | BZFlag | all the rest should work. |
| 05:28:50 | BZFlag | well, baring memory issues. |
| 05:29:07 | BZFlag | though you could pay TomW to upgrade your phone to 64M ;-) |
| 05:29:13 | Error403 | heh! |
| 05:29:39 | Error403 | I have a 32meg laptop SIMM that looks like it wants to fit into the tuxscreen :) |
| 05:30:27 | jacques | i wonder how much he would charge |
| 05:31:54 | BZFlag | Error403: 72 pin or 144 pin? |
| 05:32:15 | BZFlag | if it's a 72 pin, then try it. It should not hurt anything even if it does not work. |
| 05:32:29 | Error403 | 72 |
| 05:32:39 | Error403 | is interested to see if it works |
| 05:32:43 | BZFlag | sweet. try it out. |
| 05:32:46 | Error403 | will it work right away without messing with blob? |
| 05:33:12 | BZFlag | without blob and kernel changes it will most likely look the same as the 8 that's in there. |
| 05:33:50 | TomW | Check the partnumber of the chips on the SODIMM, then pull up at datasheet. If they are 4K refresh, they will work. Otherwise, if they are 8K refresh, they won't |
| 05:34:02 | TomW | s/at/a/ |
| 05:34:12 | BZFlag | but it might look like 16M giving you 24M total. I believe any ship that does will need some pins covered though. |
| 05:34:51 | BZFlag | TomW: the 8k with a pin covered (or jumper removed) should show up as 16M right? |
| 05:35:07 | BZFlag | like my 8k 64M does? or perhaps not. |
| 05:35:09 | Error403 | Where is the part number? |
| 05:35:17 | TomW | No, 8k's will not work. |
| 05:35:39 | BZFlag | TomW: even with the jumper removed or the pin taped over? |
| 05:35:59 | BZFlag | someone here had one working. don't recall who or whether blob was modified or not. |
| 05:36:24 | TomW | Ask GPSFan, he had 16M, I think. Didn't he? Or was it 32M after re-blobing |
| 05:36:27 | Error403 | TomW: Where is the part number? |
| 05:36:42 | Error403 | damn, it's only a 16 meg :/ |
| 05:36:45 | TomW | What does the writing on the ICs say. |
| 05:36:46 | BZFlag | is glad he it out of throwing distance from TomW for when TomW gets sick of the questions. |
| 05:36:47 | Error403 | my laptop has a 64meg though |
| 05:36:54 | | IC is a French Guy. He teaches me lots of silly things. It's rumoured that he's lord and master of the universe, so you'd better not mess with him, or the whole planet may just blink out of existance. :) |
| 05:36:54 | Error403 | TomW: IC? |
| 05:37:26 | BZFlag | Error403: even a 16M is larger that the 8M that came in it. |
| 05:37:28 | | i guess i am a lousy bot |
| 05:37:28 | TomW | ibot: who are you? |
| 05:37:53 | Error403 | ohh damn! |
| 05:38:00 | Error403 | it is a 144 pin |
| 05:38:02 | Error403 | :( |
| 05:38:40 | BZFlag | to bad. |
| 05:39:36 | Error403 | wierd |
| 05:39:38 | TomW | Coast-to-Coast Memory, (800)4-MEMORY, part number: LGED32U/032/G3V60 and insist on 4K refresh. Cost $29.49 per. |
| 05:39:45 | | ...but ic is a French Guy. He teaches me lots of silly things. It's rumoured that he's lord and master of the universe, so you'd better not mess with him, or the whole planet may just blink out of existance. :)... |
| 05:39:45 | jacques | ibot: IC is integrated circuit |
| 05:39:55 | | okay, jacques. |
| 05:39:55 | jacques | ibot: IC is also integrated circuit |
| 05:40:16 | Error403 | my laptop is saying "Lost interupt" now that I put my SD->PCMCIA card in |
| 05:40:17 | Error403 | hrm |
| 05:40:19 | Error403 | not good :( |
| 05:41:28 | BZFlag | Error403: did you forget to unmount/eject it last time? |
| 05:41:33 | Error403 | no |
| 05:41:57 | Error403 | ohh, wierd |
| 05:42:03 | Error403 | it took hde now |
| 05:42:04 | Error403 | hmm |
| 05:42:21 | Error403 | now it works |
| 05:42:22 | Error403 | wierd |
| 05:43:48 | Error403 | BZFlag: the task-bootstrap.tar.gz just goes on the SD? |
| 05:44:20 | | well, IC is a French Guy. He teaches me lots of silly things. It's rumoured that he's lord and master of the universe, so you'd better not mess with him, or the whole planet may just blink out of existance. :) or integrated circuit |
| 05:44:20 | sjm | ibot: IC |
| 05:44:55 | Error403 | BZFlag: Also, it seems that my /linuxrc is setup to detect a linuxrc on hda1 on startup, is that correct? |
| 05:47:13 | BZFlag | yes. that's the plan. that's how I use it to run debian-arm on a microdrive. |
| 05:48:08 | BZFlag | unmount and reformat the mmc as ext2 if you have not already, so unix permissions will work. |
| 05:48:52 | BZFlag | then unpack the tarball. it might all be under root/* or something. if so move it to the root of the mmc and create or edit a linuxrc on it. |
| 05:49:20 | | well, i am a lousy bot |
| 05:49:20 | TomW | ibot: what are you? |
| 05:49:37 | BZFlag | do NOT directly call the mmc sbin/init from the root /linuxrc or you will not be able to unmount the root jffs2 partition. |
| 05:49:54 | Error403 | uh |
| 05:50:02 | Error403 | I don't know the first thing about a linuxrc file :/ |
| 05:50:17 | BZFlag | if /linuxrc execs mmc linuxrc which execs mmc sbin/init then the old root is free to be unmounted. |
| 05:50:47 | BZFlag | your linuxrc (if there isn't one) could be just "exec /sbin/init" and make sure it is +x |
| 05:50:54 | | well, i am a Micro$oft minion that is snooping this channel for new innovations. |
| 05:50:54 | TomW | ibot: ibot? |
| 05:51:03 | TomW | heh |
| 05:51:05 | BZFlag | TomW: heh |
| 05:51:40 | | Micro$oft is nothing but a bawdy mound of frothy jizzum. |
| 05:51:40 | BZFlag | ibot insult Micro$oft |
| 05:58:49 | Error403 | okay |
| 05:59:07 | Error403 | after fighting with my laptop some more, I am downloading the bootstrap |
| 06:03:47 | Error403 | BZFlag: There already is a linuxrc in the bootstrap, can I use that one? |
| 06:04:20 | BZFlag | if it is +x and does sane things, then yes. look out for hardcoded references to mtd devices. |
| 06:04:47 | Error403 | a mtd device would be...? |
| 06:05:24 | BZFlag | any /dev/mtd* reference. |
| 06:05:34 | Error403 | nah, none |
| 06:06:02 | Error403 | so technically all I have to do is pop this thing in my tuxscreen and reboot it? |
| 06:07:14 | Error403 | lets find out |
| 06:07:35 | BZFlag | waits impatiently. |
| 06:07:47 | Error403 | :) |
| 06:07:58 | BZFlag | Error403: take notes on all this and do a wiki page, k? |
| 06:08:22 | Error403 | hmm |
| 06:08:44 | Error403 | pivot_root: pivot_root: no such file or directory |
| 06:08:45 | Error403 | hmm |
| 06:09:09 | Error403 | I wonder what it was trying to find |
| 06:09:25 | BZFlag | /sbin/pivot_root |
| 06:09:45 | Error403 | well, yeah |
| 06:09:51 | Error403 | hmm |
| 06:09:54 | Error403 | I know it's there |
| 06:10:21 | Error403 | wait |
| 06:10:24 | Error403 | that doesn't look right |
| 06:10:53 | Error403 | it says "pivot_root /mnt /mnt/initrc && exec /linuxrc", should it be "pivot_root /mnt /mnt/initrc && exec /mnt/linuxrc" ? |
| 06:10:56 | BZFlag | try adding /sbin/ to the script. |
| 06:11:05 | Error403 | where /mnt is the root of /dev/hda1 |
| 06:11:05 | BZFlag | no. |
| 06:11:09 | Error403 | k |
| 06:11:19 | BZFlag | after the pivot_root / will be where /mnt was |
| 06:11:39 | Error403 | yeah, duh! :) |
| 06:11:40 | BZFlag | ah! |
| 06:11:42 | Error403 | hits himself :) |
| 06:12:07 | BZFlag | you need an initrd directory on the mmc card which you may not have. |
| 06:12:10 | Error403 | uh |
| 06:12:11 | BZFlag | I forgot that. |
| 06:12:18 | Error403 | the tuxscreen didn't reboot :/ |
| 06:12:37 | BZFlag | pull the power and the card and try again. |
| 06:12:40 | Error403 | ahh, there, wierd |
| 06:13:17 | Error403 | I need an initrd? |
| 06:13:23 | Error403 | hrfm |
| 06:13:34 | Error403 | How do I make one of those for the tuxscreen? |
| 06:13:55 | Error403 | oh |
| 06:13:58 | Error403 | a directory |
| 06:13:58 | Error403 | heh |
| 06:14:51 | Error403 | woah |
| 06:15:03 | Error403 | something seg faulted after about 3 pages of a core dump |
| 06:15:04 | Error403 | interesting |
| 06:15:43 | Error403 | and it still came up with the normal root, but it tried some other stuff |
| 06:16:50 | BZFlag | you need a directory called initrd on the mmc card. nothing in it. that's where the old root will be mounted after the pivot_root |
| 06:17:47 | BZFlag | could be pcmcia cardmgr perhaps. check dmesg and the logs, vi /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and comment everything out. |
| 06:18:05 | BZFlag | but you can login? |
| 06:18:32 | Error403 | yes, I can |
| 06:18:33 | Error403 | wierd |
| 06:18:39 | Error403 | it looks like the root might have changed |
| 06:18:48 | Error403 | surely the normal tuxroot doesn't have dpkg |
| 06:18:52 | Error403 | right? |
| 06:19:19 | BZFlag | the root should have changed. try mount to see what's mounted. |
| 06:19:36 | BZFlag | you should be logging in with the mmc mounted as / |
| 06:19:43 | BZFlag | try df too. |
| 06:19:58 | Error403 | er |
| 06:20:01 | BZFlag | /initrd should be able to be unmounted now if you like. |
| 06:20:08 | Error403 | just /dev/mtdblock2 is mounted |
| 06:20:12 | Error403 | damn |
| 06:20:16 | Error403 | this isn't working it seems |
| 06:22:12 | Error403 | ahh |
| 06:22:20 | Error403 | it seems it was the cardmgr that had crashed |
| 06:23:46 | Error403 | I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it works |
| 06:24:05 | Error403 | ssh is generating a DSA key |
| 06:24:13 | Error403 | taking a while ;) |
| 06:25:57 | Error403 | hmm |
| 06:26:03 | Error403 | it just stopped at a line with a period |
| 06:26:12 | Error403 | it's been here for a couple minutes now |
| 06:27:46 | Error403 | well, that sucks |
| 06:29:06 | Error403 | it likes just sitting at that period, any ideas? |
| 06:38:53 | BZFlag | nothing on screen and no prompt on serial? |
| 06:39:04 | Error403 | I didn't try serial |
| 06:39:14 | Error403 | I took ssh out of the startup scripts on my laptop |
| 06:39:17 | Error403 | let me see if that helps |
| 06:39:32 | BZFlag | you likely have a login prompt on the serial port. |
| 06:39:54 | BZFlag | remember the ipaq has no keyboard no not much use running a getty on /dev/tty1 |
| 06:40:00 | BZFlag | s/no/so/ |
| 06:40:11 | Error403 | ahh |
| 06:40:14 | Error403 | true |
| 06:40:18 | Error403 | stupid ipaq ;) |
| 06:40:23 | Error403 | zaurus rox0rs ;) |
| 06:40:45 | | Error403: Yeah, yo mama dresses you funny and you need a mouse to delete files. |
| 06:40:45 | Error403 | okay, excuse that outburst :) |
| 06:40:55 | Error403 | har har |
| 06:41:10 | Error403 | tries serialing in |
| 06:41:53 | Error403 | no flow control? |
| 06:42:50 | BZFlag | right, no hw or sw. |
| 06:43:04 | BZFlag | 115200 8n1 |
| 06:43:06 | Error403 | hits himself |
| 06:43:22 | BZFlag | doen't that hurt? |
| 06:43:23 | Error403 | it would help if the fscking serial cable is plugged into your computer dummy :) |
| 06:44:12 | Error403 | yup |
| 06:44:18 | Error403 | got a prompt |
| 06:44:26 | Error403 | and a shell :) |
| 06:44:37 | Error403 | and a good root |
| 06:45:35 | BZFlag | sweet. now look at the getty lines in /initrd/etc/inittab and compare to /etc/inittab. you should be able to get a getty on the console. |
| 06:45:54 | BZFlag | you are writing this all down, right? ;-) |
| 06:46:24 | Error403 | BZFlag: hah, nope, my memory is better than a piece of paper |
| 06:46:35 | Error403 | clear: command not found?! |
| 06:46:38 | Error403 | uh oh |
| 06:46:43 | Error403 | that's not cool :) |
| 06:46:50 | BZFlag | might not be in the base image. |
| 06:47:10 | Error403 | vi is not found either |
| 06:47:15 | Error403 | dirty bastards :) |
| 06:47:28 | Error403 | well, now what to use :/ |
| 06:47:53 | BZFlag | you need to follow the rest of: http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/install/H3100/install.html |
| 06:48:22 | Error403 | ahh |
| 06:48:24 | Error403 | task-complete |
| 06:49:09 | Error403 | hmm |
| 06:49:28 | BZFlag | got a net connect too? |
| 06:49:31 | Error403 | well |
| 06:49:33 | Error403 | that's the problem |
| 06:49:40 | Error403 | I don't have a v3.3 card |
| 06:49:54 | Error403 | so I need to modify my tuxscreen to handle 5v |
| 06:49:54 | BZFlag | ppp should work as done on an ipaq |
| 06:50:06 | Error403 | over serial? |
| 06:50:10 | BZFlag | yeah |
| 06:50:22 | BZFlag | but 5v would be much nicer. ;-) |
| 06:50:52 | Error403 | # insmod slhc |
| 06:50:52 | Error403 | insmod: slhc: no module by that name found |
| 06:50:54 | Error403 | damn |
| 06:50:56 | Error403 | :/ |
| 06:51:41 | BZFlag | the drivers should be static in the kernel, skip that part. |
| 06:51:43 | Error403 | I have an idea |
| 06:51:45 | Error403 | oh |
| 06:51:46 | Error403 | ok |
| 06:52:17 | BZFlag | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/PPPHowto#host |
| 06:53:32 | Error403 | reading that |
| 06:54:13 | Error403 | uh |
| 06:54:20 | Error403 | hmm |
| 07:00:52 | Error403 | it worked once, then I disconnected because there was too much debug noise, edited a file and removed the debug option, now it doesn't work |
| 07:00:58 | Error403 | says Connect script failed |
| 07:01:09 | Error403 | time to turn back on debugging I guess :0 |
| 07:15:44 | BZFlag | connect again with minicom and see if there is a login prompt. |
| 07:16:36 | Error403 | -pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because |
| 07:16:36 | Error403 | the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not |
| 07:16:36 | Error403 | included in the kernel configuration. |
| 07:16:44 | Error403 | :/ |
| 07:17:11 | Error403 | I have an idea |
| 07:17:32 | Error403 | er |
| 07:17:39 | Error403 | there are no modules for the tuxscreen? |
| 07:17:44 | Error403 | (with the default image) |
| 07:19:00 | Error403 | waits |
| 07:19:55 | Error403 | is stumped at this point, this is your department BZFlag :) |
| 07:20:22 | pmisfit | is back (gone 02:14:55) |
| 07:22:33 | pmisfit | *whew* make/pppd.mk is done. |
| 07:22:57 | pmisfit | and, i found a way to get openssl to build a shared binary. |
| 07:22:58 | Error403 | pmisfit: Can I get any information out of you? :) |
| 07:23:23 | pmisfit | why not? i've been there... |
| 07:23:37 | pmisfit | Error403: go for it. |
| 07:23:48 | Error403 | How do I get the tuxscreen kernel to support PPP? |
| 07:24:03 | Error403 | BZFlag claims it is compiled into the kernel, but the ppp daemon is telling me otherwise |
| 07:24:24 | pmisfit | Error403: hmmm. well i just built the *userland* daemon. |
| 07:24:39 | pmisfit | Error403: how is it tellign you that? |
| 07:26:03 | Error403 | well |
| 07:26:19 | Error403 | actually, I'm trying to familiar to work, but I need to use the tuxscreen compiled kernel (obviously) |
| 07:26:48 | pmisfit | ok... |
| 07:27:41 | Error403 | and when I attempt to run pppd on the tuxscreen it complains that the kernel doesn't have pppd support |
| 07:27:54 | Error403 | -pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because |
| 07:27:54 | Error403 | the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not |
| 07:27:54 | Error403 | included in the kernel configuration. |
| 07:29:20 | Error403 | twiddles his thumbs and wonders if BZFlag went to bed |
| 07:29:20 | pmisfit | well either pppd is wrong, or the kernel is wrong. which to you want to check first? |
| 07:29:42 | Error403 | I'm assuming that the kernel is wrong, but that's because I didn't build it |
| 07:29:58 | pmisfit | heh. ok, wanna rebuild it? |
| 07:30:02 | Error403 | no :) |
| 07:30:10 | pmisfit | oh, come on, it doesn't hurt. |
| 07:30:25 | Error403 | of course it doesn't |
| 07:31:09 | pmisfit | do you have the sources it was built from? |
| 07:31:17 | Error403 | I didn't build it |
| 07:31:24 | Error403 | well |
| 07:31:28 | Error403 | no |
| 07:31:40 | Error403 | But quite honestly I don't want to rebuild it |
| 07:31:53 | pmisfit | i can understand that ;-) |
| 07:32:14 | pmisfit | but in all seriously, if that's what's broken, i'm not sure how else to fix it. |
| 07:32:35 | BZFlag | back, reading. |
| 07:33:16 | Error403 | I don't see anything echoed into dmesg that says anything about PPP |
| 07:33:42 | BZFlag | checking buildroot... |
| 07:34:12 | BZFlag | he's right ppp is off. =( |
| 07:34:18 | Error403 | son of a |
| 07:35:00 | Error403 | well, it doesn't look like I have much option other than rebuilding my kernel! |
| 07:35:08 | Error403 | BZFlag: just stay here for this part please ;) |
| 07:35:39 | Error403 | where are the sources for the kernel? |
| 07:36:34 | Error403 | Do I just go and fetch 2.4.16, or should I use the buildroot from 0.4? |
| 07:36:59 | BZFlag | Error403: get te buildroot. it does it all. |
| 07:37:05 | Error403 | (I'm assuming that you use a vanilla Linus tree + buildroot patches) |
| 07:37:11 | BZFlag | not the tarball... the cvs tree. |
| 07:37:17 | Error403 | k |
| 07:37:54 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=20228 |
| 07:37:55 | Error403 | I just need the linux.mk one, right? |
| 07:38:02 | Error403 | err |
| 07:38:14 | BZFlag | no. checkout the tree. |
| 07:39:31 | Error403 | okay, checking out buildroot-tux |
| 07:39:38 | Error403 | do I want the kernel/ tree too? |
| 07:41:00 | pmisfit | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.tuxscreen.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/tuxscreen login |
| 07:41:10 | Error403 | I got that part |
| 07:41:16 | Error403 | I have buildroot checked out |
| 07:41:34 | pmisfit | you're golden, then. |
| 07:41:37 | Error403 | I can develop and use CVS, but I'm a kernel level newbiie |
| 07:41:53 | pmisfit | 'tis all good. i'm a newbie at everything. keeps me on my toes. |
| 07:41:59 | BZFlag | cd buildroot-tux;make |
| 07:42:04 | BZFlag | then sit back and relax. |
| 07:42:07 | Error403 | woah |
| 07:42:10 | Error403 | funky |
| 07:42:27 | Error403 | goes to get something to drink |
| 07:43:58 | Error403 | kernel.org is slow for some reason :/ |
| 07:45:20 | BZFlag | Error403: break it, rm sources/dl/linux-2.4.18* and run make again. |
| 07:45:29 | BZFlag | different mirrors run at different speeds. |
| 07:47:04 | Error403 | it's halfway done, I might as well wait |
| 07:47:41 | Error403 | based on the fact that it is running at 40KB/sec and it's exactly halfway done, and my line can only go at 70KB/sec, restarting it would take longer :) |
| 07:47:54 | pmisfit | Error403: it's a multiple-drink kind of a download. |
| 07:48:04 | Error403 | yeah, I'm finding that out |
| 07:48:15 | pmisfit | Error403: how fast is your pc and disk? the compile may take a while too. |
| 07:48:25 | Error403 | 1.4GHz? ;) |
| 07:48:32 | Error403 | disk is nothing to worry about here |
| 07:48:42 | pmisfit | Error403: your compile may not take a while, then ;-) |
| 07:49:00 | Error403 | few minutes *shrug* |
| 07:49:05 | Error403 | configuring it takes longer :) |
| 07:49:09 | Error403 | speaking of configuring |
| 07:49:32 | Error403 | Does it auto-configure it for you? |
| 07:49:40 | Error403 | (because I obviously need different settings) |
| 07:49:54 | pmisfit | Error403: i usually do this |
| 07:50:03 | pmisfit | Error403: i start with the default config, |
| 07:50:17 | pmisfit | Error403: test it, make sure there's nothing screwy. |
| 07:50:45 | pmisfit | Error403: then i start tweaking from there. |
| 07:51:22 | Error403 | well, I think I'm just gonna shoot for the PPP stuff right away, I'll be mad if I have to recompile, send to my laptop, put on SD, copy ...... etc etc etc all over again |
| 07:52:22 | BZFlag | is trying a new kernel config for buildroot now... |
| 07:52:38 | Error403 | BZFlag: after the kernel image is spit out, is there anything I have to do on the tuxscreen side to have it load the new image? |
| 07:52:59 | BZFlag | send it over with minicom. |
| 07:53:09 | BZFlag | and flash it. |
| 07:53:14 | Error403 | oh :/ |
| 07:53:20 | Error403 | that's right |
| 07:53:29 | Error403 | uuencode or not? |
| 07:53:41 | LoneTech | I thought the sending part was uuencode.. minicom to tell blob to receive |
| 07:54:24 | BZFlag | yeah, uuencode till I get a new blob up with the xmodem code. |
| 07:54:38 | Error403 | that'd be cool |
| 07:54:45 | BZFlag | I'm using it here. ;-) |
| 07:54:50 | Error403 | :) |
| 07:55:04 | Error403 | shit |
| 07:55:10 | Error403 | I forgot, I don't have the cross compiler |
| 07:55:22 | Error403 | that stopped make dead in its tracks |
| 07:55:31 | Error403 | BZFlag: suggested site for the compiler? |
| 07:55:33 | BZFlag | http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view/ToolChain |
| 08:01:04 | Error403 | ok, that's installed, time to continue |
| 08:01:32 | Error403 | BZFlag: do I have to halt it and make my own config? |
| 08:01:36 | Error403 | hrm |
| 08:01:38 | Error403 | it seems so |
| 08:02:40 | BZFlag | zlib issues |
| 08:02:54 | Error403 | any config options I should turn on (other than PPP)? |
| 08:02:57 | BZFlag | you should not need tom no. |
| 08:03:02 | BZFlag | we to, |
| 08:03:10 | BZFlag | er to. sheesh |
| 08:05:25 | Error403 | taps his foot |
| 08:06:16 | pmisfit | Error403: compiles taking too long on that 1.4G box? ;-) |
| 08:06:48 | Error403 | You ought to see kdebase |
| 08:07:03 | Error403 | if you think this C stuff takes a while, heh, you haven't seen anything :) |
| 08:07:08 | Error403 | G++ sucks so bad ;) |
| 08:07:09 | pmisfit | starts one going on his p2/500 development system :-/ |
| 08:07:27 | BZFlag | Error403: cvs up -PdA;rm -rf build/linux and try building |
| 08:07:38 | Error403 | I already am |
| 08:07:42 | Error403 | hrm |
| 08:08:02 | BZFlag | I just changed all the ppp stuff and committed it. |
| 08:08:06 | Error403 | ok |
| 08:08:10 | Error403 | re-building |
| 08:08:15 | Error403 | BSD compression, etc? |
| 08:14:43 | Error403 | okay, it's at uclibc, I'm stopping it |
| 08:16:39 | BZFlag | yes, I turned on BSD compression. |
| 08:17:19 | Error403 | argh |
| 08:17:21 | Error403 | I hate wiki ;) |
| 08:18:00 | Error403 | is it uuencode zImage > /dev/ttyS0? |
| 08:19:08 | BZFlag | uuencode zImage foo > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 08:19:47 | Error403 | what's foo for anyways? |
| 08:20:36 | BZFlag | its the name that will be in the uuencode header, which blob ignores |
| 08:21:13 | Error403 | ahh |
| 08:23:11 | Error403 | that's nice |
| 08:23:14 | Error403 | CRC error |
| 08:23:15 | Error403 | :( |
| 08:23:31 | Error403 | any ideas? :/ |
| 08:24:15 | Error403 | ler me try downloading it again |
| 08:24:17 | Error403 | t |
| 08:25:56 | pmisfit | good luck, gentlemen. going nite-nites. |
| 08:26:00 | Error403 | nite |
| 08:26:18 | pmisfit | is away: sleep |
| 08:26:30 | Error403 | BZFlag: CRC error again |
| 08:26:39 | Error403 | BZFlag: I'm running out of ideas quickly |
| 08:30:05 | Error403 | la la la |
| 08:32:04 | BZFlag | hmm. |
| 08:32:21 | BZFlag | you are doing the download in minicom and the uuencode in another window? |
| 08:32:28 | Error403 | yes |
| 08:32:37 | Error403 | do I have to power cyle? |
| 08:32:40 | Error403 | cycle* |
| 08:32:41 | BZFlag | hmm. same host you used for the initial install? |
| 08:32:46 | Error403 | I'm just telling blob to reboot |
| 08:32:48 | Error403 | yes |
| 08:32:59 | BZFlag | hmmm. that should be enough. |
| 08:33:40 | Error403 | the bytes downloaded is exactly the size of the one on my hard drive |
| 08:34:35 | Error403 | hrm |
| 08:34:42 | Error403 | I power cycled and it didn't help |
| 08:35:02 | BZFlag | flash it and see what happens? ;-) |
| 08:35:08 | Error403 | ? |
| 08:35:17 | BZFlag | or just boot it without flashing. |
| 08:35:20 | Error403 | I did flash it |
| 08:35:26 | BZFlag | oh. |
| 08:35:32 | Error403 | download kernel |
| 08:35:34 | Error403 | flash kernel |
| 08:35:55 | BZFlag | where does the CRC happen? on decompress? |
| 08:36:03 | Error403 | uh huh |
| 08:36:04 | Error403 | Uncompressing Linux.......................................................... |
| 08:36:05 | Error403 | crc error |
| 08:36:23 | BZFlag | do: "erase kernel" then reboot, then do "download kernel" and "flash kernel" |
| 08:36:27 | Error403 | k |
| 08:36:58 | Error403 | *** Unknown command: erase kernel |
| 08:36:59 | BZFlag | I updated pppd to not have mmap which jffs2 does not support. |
| 08:36:59 | Error403 | heh |
| 08:37:12 | Error403 | no erase? :/ |
| 08:37:12 | BZFlag | heh. oh yeah, that's a new blob command. |
| 08:37:22 | BZFlag | well do the dl and flash again anyway |
| 08:37:36 | Error403 | and then...? |
| 08:37:41 | Error403 | what should I do differently? |
| 08:38:12 | Error403 | I've done that 3 times now |
| 08:39:02 | Error403 | hrm |
| 08:39:13 | BZFlag | sounds like a broken toolchain. |
| 08:39:19 | BZFlag | try this kernel: |
| 08:39:39 | Error403 | erases that toolchain |
| 08:40:47 | BZFlag | http://www.rikers.org/tmp/ts-kernel-ppp.img |
| 08:41:22 | Error403 | yeah, that's a bit bigger than mine |
| 08:41:48 | BZFlag | I added back initrd and minix for kicks. |
| 08:41:54 | Error403 | heh |
| 08:43:53 | Error403 | wishes minicom wouldn't resize his konsole |
| 08:43:54 | Error403 | :/ |
| 08:44:30 | Error403 | fuck |
| 08:44:31 | Error403 | fuck |
| 08:44:32 | Error403 | fuck |
| 08:44:39 | Error403 | CRC error :( |
| 08:45:28 | Error403 | ok, well, hrm |
| 08:47:04 | BZFlag | crap. I don't know why that is happening. |
| 08:48:38 | Error403 | well, I have to go to bed, I'll be back tomorrow |
| 08:48:45 | Error403 | If you think of anything, message me :) |
| 08:48:59 | Error403 | thanks for all of your help :) |
| 08:49:13 | BZFlag | you bet. nite |
| 10:06:51 | Tangent | wakes up |
| 10:31:53 | andersee | BZFlag: got to sleep! |
| 10:32:00 | andersee | ;-) |
| 10:36:59 | BZFlag | hey you too! |
| 10:39:08 | andersee | I have the config system for busybox unstable reworked now... Much faster and no more icky recursive make |
| 10:39:28 | andersee | But still uses menuconfig and such |
| 10:42:11 | BZFlag | cool. now fix the kernel as well. ;-) |
| 10:42:33 | BZFlag | you too could be esr |
| 10:43:37 | BZFlag | pppd should be working in buildroot now. course the internal modem is not supported. |
| 10:44:20 | andersee | BZFlag: But I have no aspirations for "social engineering"? ;-) |
| 10:44:25 | BZFlag | heh |
| 10:53:07 | Tangent | andersee: Hi.. morning.. |
| 10:53:35 | Tangent | back in 10 mins |
| 10:56:05 | andersee | mornig |
| 10:59:33 | BZFlag | "links" is huge. well, my comparison anyway |
| 10:59:48 | BZFlag | s/my/by/ |
| 11:05:47 | andersee | yup |
| 11:06:20 | andersee | I had hoped it would be smaller when I put together the makefile... |
| 11:13:53 | Tangent | back |
| 11:15:50 | BZFlag | telnet to another box would be a better option unfortunately. |
| 11:16:00 | BZFlag | I'm hoping for ssh ;-) |
| 11:27:56 | Tangent | swithes back to the ash.c from 0.61 and starts trying to work out why it's segfaulting |
| 11:47:58 | Tangent | bleurgh... that's gine a little strange... |
| 11:48:14 | Tangent | Doh.. wrong chan |
| 12:10:49 | sjm | andersee: You about? |
| 12:12:46 | andersee | no |
| 12:12:52 | andersee | ;-) |
| 12:13:50 | sjm | andersee: Can you change permissions on tuxscreen.net/download/* ? |
| 12:14:33 | andersee | why? |
| 12:14:34 | sjm | andersee: I'm trying to upload the microwin fixes, but I don't have write access to the microwin dir. |
| 12:14:40 | andersee | Whats wrong? |
| 12:15:13 | andersee | I'm not sure I have that much authority... Guess I can check... |
| 12:15:16 | sjm | drwxr-sr-x 6 nanoxhac tuxscree 4096 Oct 16 16:56 microwin |
| 12:18:36 | andersee | Can you write anywhere else? |
| 12:19:03 | sjm | yes, but I don't want to put it anywhere else :) It should go in the microwin/latest dir. |
| 12:20:12 | andersee | I don't have perms there either... |
| 12:20:28 | sjm | There's also a patch to CVS/make/microwin.mk that references the directory, so I'd rather get it right the first time, than upload somewhere, and change it later. |
| 12:20:56 | sjm | andersee: Okay, thanks for trying. I'll wait for tim or CosmicPenguin then... |
| 12:20:58 | andersee | $ chmod g+w microwin |
| 12:20:58 | andersee | chmod: changing permissions of `microwin': Operation not permitted |
| 12:21:16 | sjm | :( k, thanks. |
| 12:21:22 | andersee | tried |
| 12:24:14 | sjm | good night |
| 12:50:51 | Tangent | succeeds in getting debootstrap to segfault in a differnt place... Wehey :D |
| 12:51:02 | Tangent | still don't know why tho |
| 13:03:43 | Tangent | nails down the segfault to something helpful... |
| 13:04:35 | Tangent | GPSFan: Hey |
| 13:08:26 | Tangent | andersee: you still around? |
| 13:08:52 | GPSFan | Hey Tangent: How are you, long time no speek. |
| 13:09:05 | Tangent | GPSFan: I'm good... my computers are bad tho' |
| 13:09:21 | Tangent | GPSFan: Main LVM is down... 120Gb of data I can't get at right now... |
| 13:09:30 | GPSFan | ooww, sorry to hear that. |
| 13:09:42 | GPSFan | btw, do you have an iPaq? |
| 13:09:45 | Tangent | GPSFan: And overwrote my PIC code source tree with an outdated copy before I lost my LVM... |
| 13:09:52 | Tangent | GPSFan: Yep.. I have a h3630 |
| 13:10:02 | Tangent | with a newly replaced battery (did that last night) |
| 13:10:26 | GPSFan | have you done anything with dual booting wince & linux ? |
| 13:11:18 | Tangent | GPSFan: Yep... lots and lots :) |
| 13:11:29 | Tangent | GPSFan: It's actually the reason I'm here bugging andersee |
| 13:11:55 | Tangent | GPSFan: I made some images at http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/ipaq-dualboot if you wanna give them a try |
| 13:12:08 | Morn | Tangent: I'll try them :-) |
| 13:12:16 | GPSFan | ooo!!, I just got some consulting work that needs wince, but I want to be able to install & run linux, just got a 3765. |
| 13:12:20 | Tangent | GPSFan: The intimate installer will run in there with a little help. (need to wget a few (4ish) more binaries) |
| 13:12:37 | Tangent | GPSFan: You can boot linux, and not loose a byte from CE :) |
| 13:12:55 | GPSFan | that's what I'm after. ;>) |
| 13:13:41 | Tangent | GPSFan: Do you have some extra storage? CF, Microdrive etc? |
| 13:13:55 | Morn | I have a CF card will that work? |
| 13:13:58 | GPSFan | how much space does it take up on a CF? I have a 64Mbyte with about 40 in use. |
| 13:13:59 | Morn | 128MB |
| 13:15:15 | Morn | did you see they have 512MB CF cards now |
| 13:15:26 | Morn | And heard someone is going to realase a 1024MB one |
| 13:15:55 | Tangent | Morn: Yeah.. CF will work... initrd is about 5Mb, kernel another 3/4Mb.... |
| 13:16:19 | Morn | Tangent: do you have any install directions? |
| 13:16:22 | Tangent | Morn: You need two partitions.. first one must be FAT (ce will format it otherwise), second one should be linux, (either ext3 or reiser) |
| 13:16:32 | Tangent | Morn: Yeah.. just typing them here now :) |
| 13:16:36 | Morn | sorry |
| 13:16:40 | Morn | didn't mean to rush you |
| 13:16:55 | Morn | oh, I can use part of the cf card for ce and part for linux, cool |
| 13:16:57 | Tangent | Morn: I'll make a webpage one day for them... they'll probably move to hh.org at the same time |
| 13:17:28 | Morn | Tangent: let me know when I can try it, I'd love to try this |
| 13:17:29 | Tangent | Morn: On the CE partition, you create a /boot dir, and put three files in it. zimage, initrd and params (note all lowercase names) |
| 13:17:33 | Tangent | Morn: Try it now |
| 13:17:59 | Morn | how do I re-partition the CF card though? |
| 13:18:00 | Tangent | Morn: You need a bootloader newer than 2.18.01 to boot from fat... 2.18.38 is recommended at the moment |
| 13:18:05 | Morn | sorry if that is a stupid question |
| 13:18:23 | Tangent | Morn: Not a stupid question... |
| 13:18:37 | GPSFan | Tangent: that's great, Morn is asking all the questions I had before I could type them... ;>)) |
| 13:18:56 | Tangent | Morn: Once linux is booted, that's easy enough... but you'll obviously have to add the /boot stuff back again once it's reformatted |
| 13:19:21 | Morn | I have bootloader 2.16.09 right now, I'll need to update |
| 13:19:22 | Tangent | Morn: Once it's booted, you can wget just about anything you'd need |
| 13:19:38 | Tangent | Morn: Yep.. fat support wasn't added until 2.18.01... didn't get good until 2.18.36 |
| 13:20:01 | Tangent | 2.18.22 to 2.18.35 should be avoided as they can cause ipaq autism |
| 13:20:10 | Morn | I had trouble with the 2.18.01 and reinstalling PocketPC 2002 |
| 13:20:21 | Morn | I'm so tried of reinstalling all the time |
| 13:20:26 | Morn | this will help |
| 13:20:27 | GPSFan | Tangent: last night I couldn't find binaries of bootldr >2.18.01 are they somewhere |
| 13:20:29 | Tangent | 2.18.16 was good to me... 2.18.28 has been fine so far |
| 13:20:36 | Tangent | 2.18.38 I mean |
| 13:20:40 | Tangent | .28 is autistic |
| 13:20:59 | Morn | Tangent you going to be around a little while? |
| 13:21:04 | Morn | I'll give this a go |
| 13:22:32 | Tangent | Morn: I'll be here for the next 4 hours or so |
| 13:22:37 | Morn | cool |
| 13:22:50 | Morn | I thought the bootloaders were on ftp://lorien.handhelds.org |
| 13:23:20 | Tangent | Morn: yep.../linux/feeds/bootldr |
| 13:25:01 | Tangent | installed the latest bootloader last night whilst lying in bed using pocketIE and bootblaster :) |
| 13:25:01 | Morn | got it |
| 13:25:15 | Morn | that works now? |
| 13:25:19 | Morn | neat |
| 13:25:22 | Tangent | Worked last night :) |
| 13:25:36 | Morn | I always get nervous changing the bootloader |
| 13:25:46 | Tangent | Just went to hh.org site and downloaded the bits I needed... straight from my iPAQ.... who needs a serial console |
| 13:25:49 | Morn | did it 5 times one day, I thought I was gonna need to get hospitalized |
| 13:27:26 | Tangent | Wow... five times in one day... must have taken viagra or something ;) |
| 13:28:16 | Tangent | has his mind permanently just above the gutter |
| 13:28:46 | Morn | I was fighting to install PocketPC 2002 |
| 13:28:53 | Morn | and tried a lot of variations |
| 13:30:25 | Morn | hmmm |
| 13:30:36 | Morn | I downloaded the .bin and it says it is not valid |
| 13:30:39 | Morn | should I get the .gz? |
| 13:30:53 | Tangent | Morn: The .bin worked for me |
| 13:31:47 | Tangent | Morn: This one.. ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.38.bin |
| 13:31:51 | Morn | it liked the .gz |
| 13:32:13 | Tangent | Fair enough... didn't know it could take .gz stuff |
| 13:32:23 | Tangent | I guess that's why they're there |
| 13:32:33 | Morn | ok bootloader installed |
| 13:32:38 | Morn | and verified |
| 13:33:10 | Morn | yikes |
| 13:33:24 | Morn | installing the new bootloader did a complete reset of the PocketPC |
| 13:33:35 | Morn | it's like the first time I turned it on |
| 13:34:16 | Tangent | Morn: Gulp... was fine for me |
| 13:34:39 | Tangent | Morn: Which model of iPAQ? |
| 13:34:50 | Tangent | Morn: I presume PPC2002 ? |
| 13:34:51 | Morn | 3635 |
| 13:34:57 | Morn | PPC2002 yeah |
| 13:35:04 | Morn | that upgrade was the nightmare |
| 13:35:04 | Tangent | Morn: I'll let jamey know |
| 13:35:20 | Morn | oh well no biggie |
| 13:35:24 | Morn | everything was backed up |
| 13:36:04 | Morn | alright let me resync and put those files in the flash card |
| 13:36:22 | Morn | will the initrd support wireless? |
| 13:36:22 | Tangent | Morn: BTW... what does your ipaq have for network connectivity? My initrd attempts to find a network card and configure with dchp by default |
| 13:36:27 | Tangent | Haha :) |
| 13:36:31 | Tangent | Yeah.. it should do :) |
| 13:36:31 | Morn | giggle |
| 13:36:33 | Morn | great |
| 13:36:48 | Tangent | It works for me... |
| 13:36:56 | Tangent | Oh... but there's one bit of strangeness... |
| 13:37:12 | Tangent | works best with microdrive in rear slot, and wlan card in front slot... |
| 13:37:23 | Tangent | if I have udrive in front slot, it doesn't get detected properly |
| 13:37:29 | Morn | I have my cf card in the back |
| 13:37:31 | Morn | so that is ok |
| 13:38:08 | Tangent | Morn: Did you use bootblaster to install the bootloader? |
| 13:38:14 | Morn | yes |
| 13:38:46 | Tangent | Morn: And what was previous version of bootldr? |
| 13:39:00 | Morn | 2.16.09 |
| 13:39:42 | Morn | hmmm, I haven't used usb to sync in a while been using wireless |
| 13:39:48 | Morn | and now it doesn't see the device |
| 13:39:51 | Morn | weird |
| 13:41:40 | Tangent | Windows was being stroppy with me over usb sync for a while... The checkbox was greyed out in the connection settings for activesync... The device driver for the iPAQ was loaded fine etc |
| 13:44:18 | Morn | I'm gonna shower and then work on this |
| 13:46:15 | Morn | is away: showering |
| 13:49:21 | GPSFan | Tangent: in one of the discussions on dual booting from hh.org that I read implied that the part of DRAM that wince uses for file storage was wiped when installing Linux, and that some mechanism for saving/restoring this had yet to be developed. |
| 13:50:53 | Tangent | GPSFan: The mechanism for saving/restoring it is part of CE... CF_Backup in Programs |
| 13:51:07 | Tangent | GPSFan: Just discussing a more elegant solution |
| 13:51:47 | GPSFan | ok, so when I go back to ce after using Linux, I'll need to "restore" my ce files & environment. |
| 13:53:02 | Tangent | Yep |
| 13:53:19 | Tangent | GPSFan: I installed everything on CE to CF card, so my restore is only 4.5M |
| 13:53:53 | Tangent | Just annoying that CE defaults to _deafeningly loud_ setting on the volume |
| 13:55:21 | GPSFan | gtreat!, when installing bootldr, the doc's say that it locks the ce's flash, does this effect ce operation? I don't have my USB cradel converted to serial yet. should I wait till I have the serial or can I change the bootldr and will ce still work ok? |
| 13:56:59 | Tangent | GPSFan: It doesn't break anything... |
| 13:57:18 | Tangent | GPSFan: CE will still work just fine |
| 13:58:29 | GPSFan | ok, well I think I'll go hunting for a serial cable to mod my cradle with anyway. does the iPaq use (or support) all the modeem control lines, or can I just connect up TX, RX & GND? |
| 13:59:00 | Tangent | Ipaq will support the extras, but the bootloader won't |
| 13:59:45 | GPSFan | will I need them to run a serial terminal connection with minicom? |
| 14:08:16 | Morn | back |
| 14:08:28 | Morn | is back (gone 00:22:13) |
| 14:10:04 | Morn | alrighty, I'm syncing |
| 14:10:13 | Morn | now to find the wireless drivers again for the pocketpc |
| 14:22:24 | Morn | Tangent: I have the files there now |
| 14:22:29 | Morn | in a dir called boot |
| 14:22:37 | Morn | only zImage has a capital letter |
| 14:24:27 | Morn | hi phpplague |
| 14:24:37 | prpplague | Morn: lol |
| 14:24:42 | prpplague | Morn: morning |
| 14:24:44 | Morn | doh |
| 14:25:02 | prpplague | Morn: we know what you've been working with |
| 14:25:28 | Morn | I don't hate men as much today... if that helps |
| 14:33:28 | Tangent | Morn: Change the capital to lower case |
| 14:33:28 | | Tangent: that doesn't look right |
| 14:33:40 | Tangent | see.. even ibot knows :) |
| 14:33:49 | Morn | done |
| 14:34:07 | fontenot | arg |
| 14:34:22 | fontenot | i switched my mouse to ps/2 from usb and now my wheel doesn't work |
| 14:34:25 | Tangent | Morn: OK.. reset it whilst holding down the d-pad centre... you should get the CRL bootloader screen |
| 14:34:32 | Morn | ok |
| 14:34:43 | Morn | got it |
| 14:34:47 | Tangent | Morn: From there Q will boot from FAT |
| 14:34:59 | Tangent | You can watch the messages on the serial port |
| 14:35:51 | Morn | I pushed the q and the boot VFAT/HDD/CF got highlighted |
| 14:35:56 | Morn | but nothing else happened |
| 14:36:48 | Tangent | Morn : Hrm... need a serial console to work out why not now... |
| 14:37:36 | Morn | it didn't change the name |
| 14:37:46 | Morn | plus when I rebooted to ce it reset again |
| 14:37:48 | Morn | weird |
| 14:38:39 | Tangent | Morn: Yeah... once you see the CRL bootloader screen, you loose your CE memory |
| 14:41:50 | Morn | tangent I got read zImage failed in the console |
| 14:42:33 | Morn | it looks like it is looking for zImage though |
| 14:43:44 | Tangent | Morn: That sounds like it's not reading the params file correctly then |
| 14:44:07 | Morn | hmmm, I formated the cf card as fat32 before |
| 14:44:12 | Morn | would that affect anything? |
| 14:44:13 | Tangent | Morn: How big is your FAT partition? Is it FAT12 or FAT15? |
| 14:44:17 | Tangent | erm FAT6 |
| 14:44:22 | Tangent | erm.. 16 |
| 14:44:38 | Tangent | FAT32 might be the cause of the problem... |
| 14:44:41 | Morn | ah |
| 14:44:45 | Tangent | I only know for sure that it works with FAT16 |
| 14:44:47 | Morn | I'll have to reformat it |
| 14:45:02 | Tangent | there used to be problems with fat12... Don't know if they're fixed yet |
| 14:46:00 | Morn | oh wait, I used some CF utility to format the cf card recently |
| 14:46:05 | Morn | not sure what format it put it in |
| 14:52:59 | Morn | no, I just checked with fdisk in linux, it is fat16 |
| 14:54:10 | Morn | Tangent: should the kenrel_filename not start with a / ? |
| 14:57:41 | Tangent | Morn: dont think so, works for me without one |
| 14:58:53 | Morn | changing that didn't help |
| 14:59:00 | Morn | I don't think it is mounting the cf card |
| 15:00:05 | Tangent | OK... try the following... |
| 15:00:07 | Tangent | sleeve insert |
| 15:00:09 | Tangent | pcmcia insert |
| 15:00:12 | Tangent | ide identify |
| 15:00:16 | Tangent | vfat mount 0 |
| 15:00:20 | Tangent | vfat ls boot |
| 15:01:15 | Morn | didn't show anything |
| 15:01:33 | Tangent | How big is the Fat partition? |
| 15:01:38 | Morn | 128MB |
| 15:01:48 | Tangent | Did ide identify find anything? |
| 15:01:54 | Tangent | did any of them? |
| 15:02:23 | Morn | it shows something with SD (I assume that is for SanDisk) |
| 15:02:39 | Tangent | Morn: msg me what you get |
| 15:02:48 | Morn | ugh, that isn't easy |
| 15:02:57 | Morn | it's on a different box than the one I'm IRCing from |
| 15:04:01 | Morn | can you paste from windows vnc into a unix sessions? |
| 15:05:49 | Morn | there got it |
| 15:17:36 | Tangent | Morn: that looks ok, how about the vfat mount 0 |
| 15:17:51 | Morn | hold on, I'm reformating and redoing the card |
| 15:18:49 | Morn | I just have to keep switching pcmcia devices in my laptop |
| 15:18:55 | Morn | so it isn't the easiest thing to do |
| 15:24:13 | Morn | now it is mounting it |
| 15:24:16 | Morn | and it sees the boot dir |
| 15:24:20 | Morn | but still failing |
| 15:25:08 | Morn | hmmm |
| 15:25:18 | Morn | vfat ls /boot seems to only show initrd |
| 15:25:56 | Tangent | very strange |
| 15:26:08 | Tangent | tell jamey |
| 15:27:16 | Morn | this is just not my week |
| 15:29:48 | Morn | eww |
| 15:29:50 | Morn | it's booting |
| 15:29:51 | Morn | I think |
| 15:30:15 | Morn | ack |
| 15:30:18 | Morn | no init found |
| 15:30:23 | Morn | argh! |
| 15:37:23 | Morn | in the boot |
| 15:37:29 | Morn | there is an invalid compressed error |
| 15:37:33 | Morn | on initrd |
| 15:39:49 | scanline | is back (gone 11:12:59) |
| 15:40:10 | Morn | Hi scanline |
| 15:40:30 | scanline | hi Morn |
| 15:45:21 | Morn | is there a way I can verify the initrd image? |
| 15:52:37 | Tangent | Morn: mv initrd initrd.gz ; gunzip initrd.gz ; mount -o loop -t cramfs initrd /mnt/something |
| 17:33:06 | scanline | is away: food-like-stuff and class |
| 19:09:30 | pmisfit | is away: reading and pondering |
| 20:44:24 | CosmicPenguin | tuxnux? |
| 20:52:07 | scanline | is back (gone 03:19:00) |
| 20:54:12 | BZFlag | better than tuxnuts I suppose |
| 20:59:32 | prpplague | Aelhaz: howdy |
| 20:59:38 | Aelhaz | prpplague: hiya |
| 20:59:43 | prpplague | Aelhaz: found a job yet? |
| 20:59:47 | Aelhaz | did i miss anything in the last few weeks? |
| 20:59:57 | Aelhaz | No, I've not even seriously been called back by anyone yet |
| 21:01:11 | Aelhaz | my brother is trying to get me a job with a fellow CMGI aquisition in Chicago, I'm not entirely sure how I'd feel about moving to chicago, but I'm pretty sure about how i feel about being unemployed in utah valley. |
| 21:01:52 | vosque | Nothing wrong with Chicag. :) |
| 21:02:36 | Aelhaz | vosque: Depends how you look at it. I've lived in a medium-size college town all my life, and I've not been particularly fond of the big cities I've visited on business |
| 21:05:08 | Aelhaz | I've been to chicago something like three times now. Mostly I remember really intense traffic and my parents van getting broken into and my brand new cd player getting stolen. I realize that's unfair. |
| 21:05:48 | Aelhaz | oh, that and one or more starbucks on every street corner. |
| 21:06:13 | Aelhaz | but that's OK, my brother Steve is responsible for the maintenence & repair of every starbucks coffee machine in chicago. |
| 21:06:44 | Aelhaz | and indianapolis |
| 21:10:10 | Aelhaz | so I've got a telephone interview with this CMGI aquisition on monday morning. They need a redundant server jockey. for windows. |
| 21:28:56 | pmisfit | is back (gone 02:19:26) |
| 21:29:12 | pmisfit | reading chatlog.. |
| 21:29:20 | pmisfit | tuxnux? |
| 21:29:27 | | pmisfit: sorry... |
| 21:29:27 | pmisfit | ibot: nicometer tuxnux |
| 21:29:36 | | 'tuxnux' is 0% lame, pmisfit |
| 21:29:36 | pmisfit | ibot: nickometer tuxnux |
| 21:29:41 | pmisfit | ??? |
| 21:30:13 | pmisfit | ok.... |
| 21:31:28 | pmisfit | goes back to reading cvs docs |
| 22:21:26 | | 'tuxinator' is 0% lame, prpplague |
| 22:21:26 | prpplague | ibot: nickometer tuxinator |
| 22:24:19 | | OK, CosmicPenguin. |
| 22:24:19 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: tuxinator is way lame |
| 22:30:20 | | CosmicPenguin: excuse me? |
| 22:30:20 | CosmicPenguin | ibot, you da man |
| 22:54:56 | scanline | is away: food-like-thingies |
| 23:09:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still working? |
| 23:20:40 | CosmicPenguin | not any more - I hate this job |
| 23:39:55 | scanline | is back (gone 00:44:59) |
