| 00:24:45 | fontenot | noooooooooooooooooo |
| 00:24:54 | fontenot | :-( |
| 00:25:23 | fontenot | (what article?) |
| 00:27:43 | fontenot | ah i see it |
| 00:30:24 | Rik- | out of the box, can you give the phone commands (e.g., to turn on the speaker phone and dial) through the serial port? |
| 00:32:51 | sjm | Rik-: You mean with inferno? Or after installing linux? |
| 00:33:08 | Rik- | either/both |
| 00:34:19 | sjm | Rik-: Can with linux, don't know about inferno. |
| 00:35:09 | Rik- | that's good. couldn't tell how much of the linux software was tehre |
| 00:35:27 | scanline | is away: got work to do |
| 00:35:39 | Rik- | could I write a linux program to make a decision based on CID to ring the phone or not when there's an incoming call? |
| 00:40:43 | sjm | Rik-: Just looked through the code, and yes it's certainly possible. |
| 00:41:09 | Rik- | I think I need one |
| 00:47:03 | Rik- | where is all the code? on sf.net? |
| 00:49:39 | sjm | Rik-: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tuxscreen/tuxphone/ |
| 00:50:46 | Rik- | yeah, I found the wheaties driver |
| 00:54:01 | Rik- | is it worth getting a JTAG dongle? |
| 00:56:02 | TomW | Rik-: JTAG can be useful. |
| 00:58:43 | GPSFan | TomW: did you figure out the 1M vs 512k chunk issue? |
| 00:59:02 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 00:59:30 | TomW | Not yet, I just got back in the house at 7:00 and then had a customer call with 2 NT boxes that were misbehaving. |
| 00:59:41 | TomW | phone call again. |
| 01:00:31 | GPSFan | ah, I've been outside all day digging ditches & cutting trees. oooh time for dinner, mmmm |
| 01:01:56 | TomW | back |
| 01:02:03 | Rik- | how hard is it to get the flash unlocked and blob loaded? the web pages make it sound fairly straigthforward, though a bit arcane |
| 01:02:14 | fontenot | TomW: did you see what BZFlag posted about about memory? |
| 01:02:35 | TomW | fontenot: yes, didn't follow all of what he was trying to do... |
| 01:02:50 | TomW | Rik-: http://www.openhardware.net/tuxscreen/ |
| 01:03:29 | TomW | Rik-: we can point you to the stuff you need to get inferno installed on your linux box. |
| 01:03:56 | TomW | fontenot: I can guess at what BZFlag is up to though. ;-) |
| 01:05:13 | TomW | Rik-: you don't need the JTAG to install blob, but if you are going to do any serious development on ARM, it would be a good idea to have one of those dongles around. Besides, they are cheap and good qaulity. |
| 01:06:14 | Rik- | is the RAM socketed? |
| 01:08:07 | TomW | Rik-: Nope, it is all SMT. |
| 01:08:22 | Rik- | ok, so I won't be doing a ram upgrade :) |
| 01:08:38 | TomW | Rik-: I hope to have a 64Meg Tux this weekend. |
| 01:09:20 | Rik- | what about the PCMCIA slots. are there any CF ram cards known to work? |
| 01:09:57 | TomW | Yes, I am using a 48M CF now with a PCMCIA adaptor. |
| 01:10:12 | Rik- | did you have to do any hardware mods to get that working? |
| 01:10:49 | TomW | jacques is using a PCMCIA --> ide adaptor to mount a 2.5 G notebook drive. |
| 01:10:56 | TomW | is away: phone |
| 01:14:29 | Rik- | hrm. can you just boot directly from the inferno boot loader (if there is one) to the CF card? |
| 01:16:57 | Rik- | oic, the bootstrap program doesn't recognize the PCMCIA cards |
| 02:00:54 | jacques | time to read the backloc |
| 02:00:58 | jacques | backlog |
| 02:01:32 | jacques | heh TomW, you either get too much sleep or not enough |
| 02:13:36 | jacques | builds gtk for the 17th time in two days. |
| 03:09:56 | andersee | is back (gone 05:49:30) |
| 03:16:17 | cpenguin_home | MIPS dynamic loader successfullly bootstraps itself? |
| 03:19:58 | andersee | cpenguin_home: sjhill has been working on a mips library loader for uClibc. An offtopic addition from him. |
| 03:24:53 | sjm | Hmmm. LinuxOrbit has a review of BZFlag... TuxScreen mentioned on slashdot... |
| 04:11:26 | sjm | Given that buildroot doesn't build the kernel anymore, what is the point of including the kernel files in the sources/ dir? |
| 04:14:46 | cpenguin_home | cracks a window |
| 04:14:49 | cpenguin_home | Man its hot around here |
| 04:20:16 | sjm | nm, cvs up wasn't picking up the new make directory |
| 04:21:31 | sjm | the build procedure has certainly changed over the last week... |
| 04:21:42 | jacques | yeah |
| 04:21:44 | jacques | :-\ |
| 04:22:20 | BZFlag | sjm: cvs up -PdA |
| 04:22:31 | BZFlag | buildroot does build the kernel. |
| 04:22:53 | sjm | yeah, I realise that now... I was missing the entire make directory :) |
| 04:23:15 | jacques | i finally broke down and installed mkfs.jffs2 on my system |
| 04:23:23 | BZFlag | hmm. not much will happen without it now. ;-) |
| 04:23:24 | jacques | since buildroot refuses to make it |
| 04:23:59 | BZFlag | looks into that to stop jacques from whining... ;-) |
| 04:24:43 | BZFlag | jacques: how far does it get? ie: what is the last error? |
| 04:26:43 | jacques | BZFlag: it doesn't bother me anymore since i installed mkfs.jffs2 in /usr/local/cin |
| 04:26:44 | jacques | bin |
| 04:27:22 | jacques | i guess i can move it and try latest buildroot to find the error |
| 04:27:23 | BZFlag | or is that sin ? |
| 04:27:29 | jacques | heh |
| 04:29:36 | BZFlag | should be fixed now. |
| 04:29:49 | BZFlag | jffs2root did not depend on mkfs.jffs2 (oops) |
| 04:30:11 | BZFlag | it does now. just rename your local binary and it should dl and build mtd and use that one. |
| 04:30:24 | BZFlag | please? ;-) |
| 04:31:12 | jacques | cool |
| 04:32:34 | jacques | BZFlag: which file did you update? |
| 04:33:06 | sjm | make/jffs2root.mk |
| 04:33:06 | jacques | oic |
| 04:36:36 | BZFlag | heh. cvs up -PdA, it's a marvelous thing. ;-) |
| 04:37:03 | BZFlag | sjm: so you like the new build look? |
| 04:37:40 | sjm | I got confused by the comment - # Makefile for a root filesystem for the TuxScreen phone. |
| 04:38:00 | sjm | To me, this meant that the kernel was no longer being built. |
| 04:38:04 | BZFlag | as in that implies no kernel? |
| 04:38:11 | sjm | nods |
| 04:38:15 | BZFlag | ah. good point. I'll update the comment. |
| 04:39:06 | BZFlag | changed. |
| 04:40:00 | sjm | better :) |
| 04:44:02 | jacques | SIGH |
| 04:44:11 | jacques | still the mismatch between uclibc and busybox |
| 04:44:21 | jacques | that's not biting anyone else? |
| 04:44:36 | jacques | the NFS thing |
| 04:46:46 | jacques | i vote for removing NFS config from busybox rather than adding it to uclibc |
| 04:47:20 | jacques | BZFlag: cool! mtd builds now :-) |
| 04:51:55 | BZFlag | jacques: I pivot_root to nfs all the time. |
| 04:52:14 | jacques | BZFlag: so you vote for nfs support in uclibc |
| 04:52:22 | BZFlag | absolutely |
| 04:52:30 | jacques | BZFlag: I dont care too much as lone as *they match* !! |
| 04:52:48 | BZFlag | so it's not building for you at present? |
| 04:52:50 | jacques | right now uclibc configs with no nfs and busybox configs with and buildroot dos ont build |
| 04:52:55 | jacques | correct |
| 04:53:03 | BZFlag | hmm... builds for me. |
| 04:53:27 | jacques | i \rm -rf buildroot-tux and cvs get just about evrey time |
| 04:53:38 | jacques | i dont see what i could be doing wrong |
| 04:53:47 | BZFlag | where does it die? |
| 04:53:55 | jacques | when linking busybox |
| 04:54:03 | jacques | complains about all sorts of missing funcs |
| 04:54:23 | jacques | andersee told me how to fix it - eithre config uclibc for nfs or busybox for no nfs |
| 04:54:37 | jacques | so i edit the busybox patch and then things build |
| 04:54:55 | BZFlag | hmm... |
| 04:56:04 | jacques | oooh i think i kjnow why |
| 04:56:05 | BZFlag | andersee must have broken it. |
| 04:56:06 | jacques | maybe |
| 04:56:18 | jacques | i always change the makefile to use uclibc snap instead of 0.9.10 |
| 04:56:31 | jacques | since 0.9.10 is too old for C== support |
| 04:56:34 | jacques | c++ |
| 04:56:44 | jacques | mayeb that's the difference |
| 04:59:42 | BZFlag | nope, I just tried rebuilding uclibc and now busybox fails |
| 05:00:01 | jacques | ok |
| 05:01:34 | BZFlag | make had rpc set to false. |
| 05:02:44 | jacques | heh someone got python 2.2 to build against uclibc |
| 05:09:39 | BZFlag | commited change |
| 05:10:58 | BZFlag | trying snapshot for kicks |
| 05:19:31 | jacques | have i mentioned lately how broken xfree source is? |
| 05:19:31 | BZFlag | not lately, but then nobody has given me a make/tinyx.mk either. ;-) |
| 05:19:31 | jacques | that's because it would be about 10,000 lines long |
| 05:19:31 | jacques | ok, tell you what |
| 05:19:31 | jacques | I will work on that and see how far I get |
| 05:19:31 | jacques | it would be a lot easier if uclibc already had wchar support tho |
| 05:21:42 | jacques | xfree source is so broken, that a make clean;make in libs does ont work |
| 05:22:02 | jacques | because make clean removes a file that make does not know how to create |
| 05:23:35 | BZFlag | fun fun |
| 05:24:04 | jacques | you have to do make World again to create the file |
| 05:24:12 | BZFlag | build with uclibc snapshot worked as well. |
| 05:24:29 | jacques | cool |
| 06:37:02 | | cpenguin_home is nothing but a decayed plate of warped pond scum. |
| 06:37:02 | JordoCrouse | ibot: insult cpenguin_home |
| 06:37:16 | JordoCrouse | Yeah! Take that cpenguin_home! |
| 06:46:18 | BZFlag | hmm... /etc/init.d/rcS is not being called?!? |
| 07:08:06 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 3 hours, 48 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: cpenguin_home: sjhill has been working on a mips library loader for uClibc. An offtopic addition from him. [Fri Apr 5 04:19:58 2002] |
| 07:08:06 | BZFlag | ibot: seen andersee |
| 07:16:13 | jacques | so quiet here today |
| 08:13:01 | scanline | is back (gone 07:37:34) |
| 09:52:00 | fontenot | anyone awake? |
| 09:56:43 | scanline | waves near fontenot |
| 09:57:32 | fontenot | hi scanline :-) |
| 09:57:38 | scanline | hi fontenot |
| 10:26:55 | Tangent | wonders where to get 32Mb sodimms from |
| 10:29:37 | fontenot | in the UK? |
| 10:30:28 | Tangent | fontenot: preferably |
| 10:35:33 | fontenot | nod |
| 10:35:48 | fontenot | the recent memory breakthroughs are axciting |
| 10:36:30 | Tangent | what recent memory breakthrough ? |
| 10:39:21 | LoneTech | someone mounted 32MB on the tuxscreen mainboard |
| 10:39:38 | Tangent | LoneTech: Ah... rather than using a SIMM... |
| 10:40:01 | Tangent | LoneTech: Got any more lowdown details? I'm not beyond a little surface mount hacking |
| 10:40:15 | LoneTech | no, I don't know more about it myself |
| 10:42:42 | Tangent | When did the memory hack get done? maybe ibot logged the details? |
| 10:43:17 | fontenot | TomW has been making lots of progress along with other ppl like I think GPSFan and BZFlag |
| 10:43:35 | fontenot | TomW was the one who mounted 32MB on the board |
| 10:43:46 | fontenot | he wrote a howto - it's on the wiki |
| 10:44:07 | Tangent | finds 32M sodimms for $7 |
| 10:44:18 | fontenot | GPSFan found a company selling surplus SODIMMs for $7 (32MB) |
| 10:44:29 | fontenot | but he can only get them to come up as 16MB so far |
| 10:44:49 | Tangent | fontenot: Probably the same place.. .I was looking on the wiki |
| 10:45:18 | fontenot | yeah http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=MEM-SO32E7 |
| 10:45:25 | Tangent | Yep.. that's the ones... |
| 10:45:43 | Tangent | Just wondering if I have some spare dimms I can scavange the memory for a 32M on-board upgrade |
| 10:47:39 | Tangent | Got some old 8M Flash dimms knocking around too.. wonder if that could be piggy-backed on too |
| 10:51:36 | Tangent | needs to find a source for memory and flash chips... then upgrade the iPAQ, psion and 2xtux |
| 13:51:58 | fontenot | o great |
| 13:52:12 | fontenot | yesterday slashdot had a plug for tuxscreen |
| 13:52:25 | fontenot | today they have an article about bzflag (the game) |
| 13:53:10 | scanline | so maybe tomorrow they do an article on uClibc? |
| 13:53:24 | fontenot | maybe |
| 13:53:28 | fontenot | linux games need better names. bzflag sounds like a compression utility or something. i bet we'd all be playing it if it was called something like 'armoured smashing-fist 2000', not bzip2. |
| 13:53:37 | fontenot | heh |
| 13:53:55 | fontenot | It?s already hard enough to find a decent server to play on. Now that BZFlag is on Slashdot I fully expect to find an increase in lag, teammate killers, and losers with hacked clients when I start playing this morning. Doh! |
| 13:53:55 | fontenot | The best flag is the laser by they way. |
| 13:54:04 | fontenot | heh i agree with that guy |
| 13:54:09 | scanline | HAHA... |
| 13:54:10 | fontenot | not about laser tho |
| 13:54:19 | scanline | see the post about bzflag on the vectrex? |
| 13:54:21 | fontenot | i think laser is way unbalanced |
| 13:54:26 | fontenot | not yet |
| 13:54:28 | scanline | i thin i accidentally inspired that one.... |
| 13:54:33 | scanline | s/thin/think/ |
| 13:55:04 | fontenot | ? |
| 13:55:07 | fontenot | the laser? |
| 13:55:14 | scanline | no, the vectrex |
| 13:55:28 | scanline | i casually mentioned that it would be a good april 1st news item to captain_proton |
| 13:55:39 | scanline | and i didn't know he actually used it |
| 13:55:45 | fontenot | heh |
| 13:56:19 | scanline | vectrex would actually make a pretty sweet bzflag machine if it was color and had a faster CPU |
| 13:56:24 | LoneTech | which article referred to tuxscreen or bzflag? |
| 13:57:25 | scanline | slashdot has a review of bzflag, and another article linked to tuxscreen |
| 13:58:37 | LoneTech | somebody thinks the wide angle gives them fish-eye.. it does not |
| 13:58:47 | fontenot | i think the vectrex thing is a april fools joke |
| 13:59:29 | fontenot | LoneTech: it diesn't? |
| 13:59:32 | fontenot | doesnt |
| 13:59:40 | scanline | fontenot: it is an april fools joke |
| 13:59:55 | scanline | fontenot: like i said, i think i was unknowingly the one responsible for it |
| 14:00:19 | LoneTech | no |
| 14:00:28 | LoneTech | fish-eye doesn't make the center appear more distant |
| 14:00:35 | LoneTech | and bends the peripheral vision |
| 14:00:44 | LoneTech | so the corners are further away than the edges |
| 14:01:12 | fontenot | i love how all the ppl who say the gameplay is excellent only play with their friends on LANs |
| 14:01:26 | fontenot | come into the real world and deal with the cheaters and team-killers |
| 14:01:31 | LoneTech | I only play online |
| 14:01:37 | fontenot | and bizarre lag effects |
| 14:01:43 | LoneTech | lag is annoying |
| 14:01:52 | LoneTech | and more common than actual cheaters |
| 14:01:58 | fontenot | the fact that more lag is an advantage is madenning |
| 14:01:59 | LoneTech | though those lamers are too common |
| 14:02:14 | LoneTech | it's not a pure advantage. |
| 14:02:29 | LoneTech | but it certainly is an advantage to be the _only_ lagging one |
| 14:02:38 | fontenot | heh |
| 14:02:47 | fontenot | i played one time with a lag of 500 |
| 14:02:55 | fontenot | and it was the easiest damn game i ever played |
| 14:02:59 | fontenot | ppl could not hit me |
| 14:03:05 | fontenot | and i could hit them just fine |
| 14:03:09 | LoneTech | just have to aim in front |
| 14:03:24 | LoneTech | hm? I always had to aim in front of them while I lagged |
| 14:03:39 | fontenot | i do that automatically |
| 14:03:51 | fontenot | but the thing is that they could not hit me and it was relatively easy for em to hit them |
| 14:04:02 | fontenot | i hate having to remember different lag values for each player |
| 14:04:21 | fontenot | and if they lag > 500 they are very hard to hit |
| 14:04:36 | fontenot | well > 1 second is very hard |
| 14:04:40 | fontenot | > 500 is annoying |
| 14:04:53 | LoneTech | the most annoying ones are those whose tanks appear somewhere else than they are |
| 14:05:25 | fontenot | try to hit someone jumping who lags 1000 |
| 14:05:38 | fontenot | or who is otherwise actively evading |
| 14:05:45 | LoneTech | I have. I generally don't hit anyone anyway |
| 14:05:51 | fontenot | i wish i had friends to play with :-\ |
| 14:06:00 | LoneTech | almost never got any evasion to work |
| 14:06:07 | fontenot | because after a while i get paranoid and think just about everyone is cheating |
| 14:06:17 | fontenot | because it is so damn easy to cheat |
| 14:06:36 | fontenot | playing with friends on a LAN would rock |
| 14:06:45 | fontenot | no lag and no cheaters |
| 14:07:12 | fontenot | heh: There are too many cheat clients for this game. Just showing up in an arena is like asking to be bungholed. |
| 14:07:17 | LoneTech | scanline: up for a game? |
| 14:07:20 | fontenot | that's a guy that plays in the real world |
| 14:07:37 | LoneTech | I don't know of any cheat clients, but haven't gone looking |
| 14:07:42 | scanline | LoneTech: not at the moment, i'm working on homework |
| 14:08:06 | scanline | I usually procrastinate homework to about this time of morning, which is when you're awake :( |
| 14:08:12 | fontenot | LoneTech: it's trivial to make your own |
| 14:08:29 | LoneTech | fontenot: sure, but I don't want to. |
| 14:08:37 | fontenot | i wanna get a mchine on a good connection so i can host my own server |
| 14:08:51 | fontenot | there are not many well-admined servers out there |
| 14:09:44 | fontenot | damn 17 ppl on decks |
| 14:09:57 | LoneTech | the decks server tends to have too many shots |
| 14:10:52 | LoneTech | I play on Chardonnay a lot nowadays.. its biggest problem is when 80% of the players go on the same team and collect GM and laser. |
| 14:11:23 | LoneTech | fontenot: want to meet me? name a server |
| 14:21:25 | fontenot | heh i am second high score |
| 14:21:32 | fontenot | i was wondering why i was doing so well |
| 14:21:43 | fontenot | then i noticed no flags on decks - whoo-hoo!! |
| 14:24:47 | fontenot | some fucking 1989 ms lagger |
| 14:25:34 | fontenot | ppl exploiting server bug |
| 14:25:42 | fontenot | same as i remember |
| 14:28:43 | fontenot | well that was fun |
| 14:28:54 | fontenot | obviously lots of new players |
| 14:29:00 | fontenot | many dont even know how to jump |
| 14:32:46 | fontenot | well time for bed |
| 15:14:07 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 14:15:03) |
| 15:20:35 | scanline | is away: powdered eggs, salt, and cranberry juice.. or something |
| 15:22:53 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:30:34 | Morn | hi prpplague |
| 15:46:00 | scanline | is back (gone 00:25:25) |
| 16:27:56 | mo | did anyone succesfully modify the tuxscreen phone so it worked with the european phonesystem? |
| 16:28:25 | ctr | uh |
| 16:28:30 | ctr | define 'work' |
| 16:28:48 | mo | simply make calls |
| 16:30:56 | mo | or do you simply have to exchange the phone and powersupply cable to use it in europe? |
| 16:32:26 | | ctr is really boris in disguise |
| 16:32:26 | mo | ctr? |
| 16:32:57 | ctr | mine works |
| 16:32:59 | ctr | fine |
| 16:33:01 | ctr | out of the box |
| 16:33:07 | ctr | i just had to get a power adaptor |
| 16:33:25 | mo | ctr, in which country are you? |
| 16:33:30 | ctr | uk |
| 16:33:36 | mo | i see |
| 16:34:54 | mo | thx for the info |
| 16:34:57 | mo | gtg |
| 16:34:59 | mo | bye |
| 17:28:55 | TomW | GPSFan: good moring |
| 17:33:21 | CosmicPenguin | Heres a tip - don't borrow hosting services from a friend that goes out of the country for 2 years |
| 17:33:28 | CosmicPenguin | DNS records have a tendency to expire.. :( |
| 17:47:24 | GPSFan | TomW: morning, found out an interesting thing about my SODIMMs, they have 16 chips inside, stacked 2 high. |
| 17:50:35 | scanline | is away: class... and probably sleep afterwards |
| 18:21:59 | GPSFan | TomW: just saw the e-mail about your 64M TuxScreen, nice work... |
| 18:26:30 | SpaceCoaster | TomW: woohoo on the 64MB tuxscreen! |
| 19:01:25 | nikos | Hello, guess Tim is not around? |
| 19:02:12 | nikos | Guess not. ;) |
| 19:19:49 | nikos | Anyone heard for Tim lately? I'm finding problems with bzflag.org, tuxscreen.net, and rikers.org. |
| 19:19:54 | nikos | err s/for/from/ |
| 19:32:51 | Russ | he got /.'d |
| 19:33:12 | nikos | Ah, that makes some sense. |
| 19:33:25 | nikos | But only "some" |
| 19:33:44 | nikos | Most sites show up, just not necessarily as the right site. |
| 19:34:54 | nikos | And the only mx for rikers.org is refusing rikers.org email. Again, that doesn't seem related. |
| 19:41:34 | CosmicPenguin | nikos: Have you seeen /. this afternoon? I expect Tim is... busy.... |
| 19:42:06 | nikos | Yes, sure. |
| 19:42:43 | nikos | It's no big deal, just seems like he has several problems for which I don't see a link to the /. story. But that may simply be my inability. |
| 19:43:32 | nikos | Err, but I hadn't seen the Lineo story, never mind. |
| 19:44:54 | nikos | Guess it's time to buy the TuxScreen's I long ago said I would buy. |
| 19:56:36 | CosmicPenguin | Hehehe... I just got a spam that said: Dear Mr. Jerk, |
| 19:59:15 | nikos | Hey, probably encourage you to read a little farther than usual right? Pretty effective. ;) |
| 19:59:25 | nikos | s/encourage/encouraged/ |
| 20:48:35 | scanline | is away: class |
| 21:18:28 | TomW | BZFlag: 64Meg works! |
| 21:18:50 | TomW | is back (gone 20:07:53) |
| 21:19:31 | andersee | Wow, two slashdottings in two days... |
| 21:21:26 | TomW | You talking about the "Lineo about to croak" story? ;-) |
| 21:22:27 | TomW | Oh, tank game. |
| 21:22:34 | andersee | Nope, the BZflag story. |
| 21:23:11 | TomW | I remember playing that on a CP/M machine back in 1979. |
| 21:23:29 | TomW | ... graphics weren't as nice though.. |
| 21:23:39 | andersee | The Lineo croaks looks bad too though (since my I pay for COBRA insurance through Lineo) and my wife and I are expecting a baby in early May.. |
| 21:24:05 | TomW | Tell her to hurry. |
| 21:24:06 | andersee | No Lineo == no insurance. Hope they hold on another month |
| 21:24:42 | TomW | She already knows what to do, just speed it up. |
| 21:25:23 | TomW | women never seem to co-operate that way though. |
| 21:28:14 | BZFlag | andersee: word is lineo is reborn today. I suspect your insurance will last a while. call and ask today would be recomended. |
| 21:28:33 | BZFlag | TomW: I'd suggest you put more women on the project. |
| 21:29:05 | BZFlag | well, that andersee should anyway. ;-) |
| 21:32:50 | andersee | hehe |
| 21:36:47 | andersee | I should have started with 9 women, so they could parallelize the effort and be done in one month. |
| 21:37:10 | TomW | BZFlag: is there anyway to make the Wiki keep text formating, whenever I try to paste the blob memory info into a wiki page, it makes it an entire paragraph. Yes, I have been reading the docs, from what I see, wiki is not very capable beyond "anyone can change ..." |
| 21:37:39 | TomW | andersee: Hmmm, that idea seems to have some merit.. |
| 21:42:43 | TomW | BZFlag: nm, I got it (<pre>). |
| 21:47:35 | RedBeard | BZFlag: congrats on the good review of your game, and the /. coverage |
| 21:49:26 | BZFlag | TomW: not really. It annoys me. I'd like to add <html></html> so that nothing gets touched between those and that markup is stripped before display. |
| 21:49:58 | BZFlag | TomW: though you do have read/write access to the html tree so you could just add static pages up there if you like. |
| 21:50:18 | BZFlag | RedBeard: thanx! the traffic on the servers today is intense! |
| 21:50:39 | TomW | BZFlag: <pre> keeps the text formatting. |
| 21:51:12 | BZFlag | yeah, but does not allow much in the way of html markup. even so I use it alot. ;-) |
| 21:51:22 | TomW | are |
| 21:51:26 | TomW | are |
| 21:51:29 | TomW | ? |
| 21:51:31 | BZFlag | you a pirate? |
| 21:51:38 | TomW | hahaha |
| 21:51:57 | BZFlag | are matey, keep up the good work. |
| 21:52:11 | TomW | no, I went to type an 'r' for 'right' and it translated it to 'are' |
| 21:52:30 | TomW | Ah, it is the spell checker that did it |
| 21:52:30 | BZFlag | ah, try 'u' as well. |
| 21:52:38 | TomW | cute. |
| 21:53:44 | TomW | I have seen it correct some of my dyslexic "hte" stuff before. Ah well. The 32Meg SODIMMs came in today, now I have 64 meg. When are you sending that board? |
| 21:53:49 | BZFlag | see settings->replace to edit them. 'teh' is the other default entry. |
| 21:54:32 | BZFlag | meant to send it today, but I'm headed out of town and with everything happening I don't know if it'll happen. |
| 21:54:50 | TomW | Ok, gotta run myself, later. |
| 21:54:54 | TomW | is away: I'm busy |
| 21:55:04 | BZFlag | ok |
| 22:24:06 | Russ|werk | andersee: any docs on the busybox pwd_grp stuff? |
| 22:24:54 | andersee | What sortof docs you need? |
| 22:25:02 | Russ|werk | I want to replace tinylogin |
| 22:30:23 | andersee | Ok. With what |
| 22:30:24 | andersee | ? |
| 22:31:05 | Russ|werk | busybox getty |
| 22:31:50 | andersee | I merged busybox getty from tinylogin, no they should be identical |
| 22:32:11 | andersee | What will you be using getty for? |
| 22:32:44 | Russ|werk | hmm...suppose i don't really need a login, so I guess just sh |
| 22:37:10 | andersee | Russ|werk: If thats all you need... Using busybox init? |
| 22:37:18 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 22:37:31 | Russ|werk | will getty try to run /bin/login? |
| 22:37:59 | andersee | Then you don't need a getty, You can just run a shell on whichever tty you want |
| 22:38:02 | Russ|werk | ::respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttySA0 115200 vt100 |
| 22:38:10 | Russ|werk | so instead of that... |
| 22:38:34 | Russ|werk | ::respawn:/bin/sh? |
| 22:39:34 | andersee | ttySA0::respawn:/bin/sh |
| 22:39:43 | andersee | That should work (at the default baud rate) |
| 22:40:06 | andersee | You just need a getty if you plan on messing with the baud rate (i.e. 115200) |
| 22:40:29 | andersee | In which case |
| 22:40:43 | andersee | ::respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttySA0 115200 vt100 |
| 22:40:46 | andersee | is correct |
| 22:42:18 | Russ|werk | I'm confused |
| 22:42:31 | andersee | If you don't want a login at all, you could add '-i -n' |
| 22:42:32 | Russ|werk | so I would need both lines? |
| 22:42:43 | andersee | no, just one or the other |
| 22:42:53 | andersee | If you want it at 115200, you need a getty |
| 22:43:15 | Russ|werk | so how does getty know to run /bin/sh? |
| 22:43:15 | andersee | It all depends on your goal. |
| 22:44:06 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 22:44:14 | Russ|werk | I just want a shell on ttySA0 at 115200 |
| 22:44:33 | andersee | k. You need a getty to get the baud rate |
| 22:45:03 | andersee | And you need to add '-l /bin/sh' then, to run the shell instead of login |
| 22:46:34 | Russ|werk | btw, arp, mii-tool, and a tiny telnetd would be nice |
| 22:46:55 | Russ|werk | although, I bet you'll be busy for the next 6-8 months |
| 22:47:50 | CosmicPenguin | ohh.... telnetd would be cool |
| 22:48:09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: what you need is a wish list - that you can stick on busybox for bored people |
| 22:48:11 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: there is one in netkit-tiny that kinda sorta works if you connect to it with nc |
| 22:48:19 | CosmicPenguin | Kind of like Kernel Janitors |
| 22:53:25 | Russ|werk | andersee: what does "Use busybox password and group functions" mean? |
| 22:54:27 | Russ|werk | I see it builds pwd_grp.a |
| 22:55:03 | Russ|werk | er |
| 22:55:09 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 23:04:56 | jer | Anyone here have a tux screen phone? |
| 23:05:32 | moritz_ | yes (but not me) |
| 23:06:09 | jer | How far along is the Linunx port? |
| 23:06:21 | jer | s/Linunx/Linux |
| 23:08:06 | jer | Like does it have any telephony support/VoIP |
| 23:08:18 | jer | both would be ideal... heh... or does the Inferno OS |
| 23:09:19 | moritz_ | http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/TuxScreenApplications |
| 23:10:40 | Russ|werk | jer: for VoIP, you need a shanip mod |
| 23:12:22 | andersee | Russ|werk: That lets you skip the libc password and group stuff, and use local to busybox replacements. |
| 23:12:44 | andersee | Russ|werk: Lets you eliminate the need for some libnss junk when using glibc |
| 23:12:51 | andersee | Russ|werk: Its pointless with uClibc |
| 23:16:30 | jer | Russ|werk nifty, with a pcmcia hdd controller and directfb I think it may even work |
| 23:16:31 | jer | :> |