| 00:07:08 | BZFlag | heh. /me add calculated depends on the jffs2 image. ;-) |
| 00:08:27 | andersee | BZFlag: guess I should add similar to the ext2root target |
| 00:08:47 | andersee | BZFlag: And auto calculate the size as well... |
| 00:08:48 | BZFlag | heh, sure. ;-) |
| 00:08:59 | BZFlag | now there's a concept. |
| 00:10:23 | scanline | is away: food |
| 00:14:00 | BZFlag | andersee: did you look at sources/mkdevices ? that should work for loop mount building with fakeroot. |
| 00:15:57 | andersee | nope |
| 00:17:02 | andersee | I'll take a look in a bit though |
| 00:17:35 | PuckCh | BZFlag: ok. I have found the problem for building with PicoGUI : this is with the ./configure options |
| 00:18:20 | PuckCh | BZFlag: here is the configure option for pgserver to build : |
| 00:18:57 | PuckCh | ./configure --with-prefix=.../build/stage/usr/bin/arm-uclibc --host=arm-linux --with-profile=profiles/profile.tuxscreen --with-jpeg-dir=.../stage |
| 00:19:04 | PuckCh | sorry... ;) |
| 00:19:16 | PuckCh | i will look now for cli_c |
| 00:23:05 | PuckCh | ./configure --with-prefix=.../build/stage/usr/bin/arm-uclibc --host=arm-linux --prefix=.../build/stage |
| 00:23:22 | PuckCh | and now the apps... |
| 00:32:22 | BZFlag | --with-prefix=.../build/stage/usr/bin/arm-uclibc !? huh? you want to install in a uclibc dir? |
| 00:33:54 | PuckCh | --with-prefix, not --prefix |
| 00:34:25 | PuckCh | --with-prefix is the toolchain prefix for picogui autoconf/automake system |
| 00:37:41 | BZFlag | that's broken... should be cross or something. |
| 00:39:11 | PuckCh | I know. It's a big discution on the pgui mailing list... But for the moment, this is like this. |
| 00:41:35 | Russ | hey andersee |
| 00:41:40 | Russ | how's semaphores? |
| 00:41:56 | andersee | Should be fine |
| 00:42:40 | BZFlag | arm-uclibc--gcc <- ugh.... |
| 00:43:41 | PuckCh | this is your problem now ? |
| 00:46:09 | Russ | andersee: semaphores are done? |
| 00:52:37 | PuckCh | BZFlag: for picogui/apps, you also need to have themetools (from PicoGUI CVS) |
| 01:00:58 | BZFlag | PuckCh: are you looking at or using the included picogui makefile? |
| 01:01:47 | PuckCh | BZFlag: I'm trying "by hand" for the moment. |
| 01:02:38 | PuckCh | BZFlag: hoops sorry. I'm using the picogui files |
| 01:03:00 | PuckCh | BZFlag: i'm making the configure in the picogui directories |
| 01:03:14 | PuckCh | without changing the picogui files. |
| 01:03:47 | PuckCh | but seems I must go to sleep now... 3am... |
| 01:04:58 | andersee | Russ: I provide semaphores when building with pthreads. They should work just fine, though I've not spent much time testing them |
| 01:06:01 | Russ | andersee: so uclibc will build with pthreads now? |
| 01:07:46 | andersee | Russ: will if you tell it to |
| 01:08:43 | andersee | Russ: it is enabled already for the tuxscreen |
| 01:09:33 | Russ | cool |
| 01:09:45 | Russ | that means I don't have to build anything statically anymore |
| 01:10:36 | PuckCh | BZFlag: the picogui.mk file cause problems... I will look more in detail another day... |
| 01:11:05 | PuckCh | go to sleep |
| 01:11:09 | PuckCh | Bye |
| 01:14:12 | PuckCh | hoops. It's me (again). Just before sleeping, I have boot my new jffs image. Bad. It say : |
| 01:14:16 | PuckCh | jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x00000000: 0x8519 instead |
| 01:14:48 | PuckCh | is this a bigendian/littleendian problem with jffs2 ? |
| 01:15:09 | PuckCh | (0x1985 and 0x8519) ??? |
| 01:15:45 | PuckCh | I'm building on a SPARC, and not on a x86... |
| 01:18:50 | PuckCh | maybe we must past the flag --little-endian or --big-endian to mkfs.jffs2 to be sure ??? |
| 01:19:06 | PuckCh | ok. now I'm going to sleep. I will test this another day... |
| 01:19:09 | PuckCh | bye |
| 01:20:04 | BZFlag | hmm... my .jffs2 autodeps means that it does not get built if anything happens. ie: you have to run make twice =( |
| 01:44:08 | BZFlag | :q |
| 01:44:10 | BZFlag | oops |
| 01:45:37 | TomW | is away: I'm busy |
| 01:45:43 | TomW | is back (gone 00:00:05) |
| 01:46:55 | scanline | is back (gone 01:36:32) |
| 01:55:08 | andersee | BZFlag: why not add TARGETS+=jpeg and such to picogui, so it can pull in its own dependancies |
| 02:08:17 | fontenot | yawns. |
| 02:27:07 | TomW | BZFlag: the board stopped running while I was out doing laundry. I cannot get it started again, but there is a lot of soldering debris on the board. |
| 02:37:29 | jacques | plays with raw ts values. |
| 02:48:11 | BZFlag | andersee: huh? it depends on jpeg. targets is really the default build list. |
| 02:48:33 | BZFlag | TomW: bummer. |
| 02:48:54 | TomW | Does jflash verify when it programs the flash? |
| 02:50:25 | BZFlag | yes it won't go if it gets the wrong jtag id back. |
| 02:51:06 | TomW | The processor is starting, it reads 4..5 words from flash then stops. |
| 02:51:38 | TomW | There is no activity on the databus, so I assume that the Flash is not working. |
| 02:54:31 | BZFlag | wild. what would cause that? |
| 03:03:29 | TomW | Possibly a bus halt due to a bad opcode / jump. |
| 04:56:21 | BZFlag | ok, picogui is building from what I can tell. someone want to try it? make;make picogui;make then deply the image. |
| 04:59:30 | TomW | JTAG won't work. |
| 05:00:52 | BZFlag | won't work? |
| 05:01:19 | BZFlag | cable lengths and impedence are delicate. |
| 05:01:41 | BZFlag | I use a ribbon cable with twists to make the connection. |
| 05:02:36 | TomW | 5 foot printer cable to dongle, IPC cable is about 5 inches. |
| 05:03:07 | TomW | cups is shut down. |
| 05:03:11 | BZFlag | I don't use a printer cable. about 9 inches of ribbon. |
| 05:03:32 | BZFlag | port needs to be in bidirectional mode, not greater or lesser. |
| 05:03:59 | TomW | Okay, I will have to check printer port mode. bbl |
| 05:09:43 | BZFlag | andersee: patch_dir has me cringing |
| 05:10:37 | BZFlag | you name the patch with a full path, thought the source is not, and in the case of the kernel the other patches are not. ugh. |
| 05:10:51 | BZFlag | patches are just other sources. |
| 05:11:03 | BZFlag | can I talk you into reverting that? |
| 05:17:07 | BZFlag | progress? |
| 05:18:17 | TomW | Ok. The ./flash_unlock sometimes connects and shows a map of memory (I have the printer set to EPP). The map keeps changing and isn't stable. I have a 5 inch cable between the dongle & the Tux board. Dongle plugged into the printer port. |
| 05:18:38 | TomW | Wonder if my having an Athlon 1200MHz has anything to do with it? |
| 05:18:58 | BZFlag | doubt it. you can't do bidi? only epp? I suspect that. |
| 05:19:36 | TomW | I have Standard, EPP, ECP and EPP/ECP. That is all they list. |
| 05:20:05 | BZFlag | bummer. none of those have worked for me. |
| 05:20:15 | TomW | I guess BiDirectional is too simple a term for the motherboard manufacturers.. |
| 05:20:30 | BZFlag | just bidi on my desktop (dual 450) and my laptop (dell 5000e) |
| 05:20:42 | TomW | bbl |
| 05:50:36 | TomW | BZFlag: ever try "Normal" paralell port? |
| 05:56:58 | BZFlag | yeah, that failsed for me as well. Others make have had different luck |
| 06:06:16 | TomW | I have had limited success with Normal mode. Ocasionally, I can reset the Tux, sometimes download some memory contents (flash -a 0 -b 256 > it), but the data keeps changing. |
| 06:07:26 | scanline | is away: getting his ass kicked at Starcraft |
| 07:03:35 | BZFlag | you have other phones yet? try a known good phone? |
| 07:04:04 | TomW | Yes, that is what I did. I am using a known good board. |
| 07:16:23 | TomW | According to data I have on the parallel printer port, Pins 2,3,4 are outputs, Pin 11 is an input. This is in "Normal" mode. |
| 07:17:26 | TomW | Looking at the schematic for the Dongle, that is how it is wired. There is no bidirection capablity to the dongle, 3 outputs driving the JTAG and one input to read from the JTAG. |
| 07:17:47 | LoneTech | 3c574 doesn't function on 3.3v |
| 07:17:56 | LoneTech | it doesn't manage to keep the link up. |
| 07:17:56 | TomW | So, this thing is working in Normal printer mode, just that I am getting erratic data. |
| 07:24:53 | TomW | the 74ahc541 only has a max output current of +/- 4 ma. @ 3.3v. IIRC, the printer ports have a 5 ma. termination on the cards? |
| 07:27:08 | LoneTech | http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/PCMCIA-5V ... can I safely just not use that diode? I intend to change one slot to 5V only |
| 07:29:29 | TomW | http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard/tuxscreen-5v-pcmcia-hack/index.html |
| 07:29:39 | TomW | They show no diodes. |
| 07:30:08 | LoneTech | I thought they put a diode from the original 3.3v supply, and a switch to the new 5v? |
| 07:30:40 | LoneTech | what I _think_ I could do is just put a wire where that switch goes and remove the old connecting path |
| 07:30:53 | LoneTech | I'd appreciate confirmation |
| 07:31:52 | TomW | Do you know any electronic theory? |
| 07:32:09 | LoneTech | very very little |
| 07:32:24 | LoneTech | what I think that picture shows is: |
| 07:32:40 | LoneTech | 1. remove a ~0 ohm resistor to disconnect the 3.3v supply |
| 07:32:48 | LoneTech | 2. connect a 5v supply with a switch |
| 07:33:21 | LoneTech | 3. connect the 3.3v supply with a diode, so the 5v supply won't flow back into the 3.3v line when the switch is on, but 3.3v will be available when the 5v switch is off |
| 07:33:29 | TomW | The diode is there so if you open the +5v switch, the slot will revert to +3.3v operation. |
| 07:33:52 | TomW | Correct, it prevents the +5 from feeding into the +3.3 |
| 07:34:31 | LoneTech | so I can skip it if I do not need 3.3v operation. |
| 07:35:03 | LoneTech | thank you |
| 07:35:35 | TomW | Correct. You can just remove the 0 ohm resistors (A.K.A jumpers) to 3.3v, then hardwire the slot(s) directly to the +5. |
| 07:39:11 | LoneTech | wow. this mod really does seem to be easy (: |
| 07:46:32 | LoneTech | this is tiny! |
| 07:50:14 | LoneTech | I wonder what R400 would be for? |
| 07:50:56 | TomW | brb |
| 07:53:30 | BZFlag | inetd and telnetd not in buildroot, someone could test it out for me ;-) |
| 08:06:13 | TomW | Well, AFAICT, either the dongle is bad, or the cable is bad. I keep getting erratic results with a 5 inch cable. :-( |
| 08:07:36 | BZFlag | ribbon cable? |
| 08:08:08 | BZFlag | I had all kinds of flakey results with individual wires. |
| 08:08:52 | BZFlag | I can't say I tried your dongle, but I've tried other from the batch and they work. |
| 08:11:13 | TomW | ribbon cable. I can rebuilt the ribbon and see what happens. |
| 08:13:52 | TomW | BZFlag: have you used the JTAG on boards that were not mounted in the plastic case (lying on workbench)? |
| 08:20:46 | LoneTech | ........................................ |
| 08:20:46 | LoneTech | Consider yourself LARTed! |
| 08:20:52 | LoneTech | is that a blob problem? |
| 08:21:01 | LoneTech | it seems to have reset in the middle of a kernel download |
| 08:21:31 | LoneTech | hmm |
| 08:21:35 | LoneTech | more likely hardware problem. |
| 08:24:52 | BZFlag | TomW: yes. |
| 08:25:46 | BZFlag | TomW: I check the boards before I put em back together to be sure the soldered on connector is ok. |
| 08:28:07 | TomW | Ok, just reaching for straws -- never assume. |
| 08:30:58 | TomW | Well... I do have some AMP pins designed for the 0.042" posts. I will make the next cable using discrete wires. |
| 08:34:53 | BZFlag | good luck. |
| 08:35:01 | BZFlag | must sleep. |
| 08:44:09 | LoneTech | cs: socket c8311800 timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay. |
| 08:45:57 | LoneTech | and then it hangs.. |
| 08:46:05 | LoneTech | after "Freeing init memory" |
| 08:46:27 | LoneTech | in the 3.3v slot it detects the card type but fails to read the mac address or connect to the network |
| 08:47:23 | LoneTech | seems the 3c574 doesn't appeal much to the shannon |
| 08:48:43 | LoneTech | hmm |
| 08:48:50 | LoneTech | is the APA-1460A really 3.3v? |
| 09:07:33 | LoneTech | aha152x: invalid line |
| 09:07:34 | LoneTech | ok |
| 09:07:34 | LoneTech | Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 000dd02e |
| 09:12:01 | TomW | ? dunno. |
| 09:16:47 | LoneTech | so my two PCMCIA devices fail |
| 09:17:21 | LoneTech | the 3com card, if connected to the 3.3v slot, is identified but doesn't work |
| 09:17:28 | LoneTech | 5v, it fails to identify and causes numerous reboots (and apparently a hang too) |
| 09:18:31 | LoneTech | the scsi card failed with the above |
| 09:26:47 | TomW | Maybe check your wiring? |
| 09:27:37 | LoneTech | not sure how to check it further |
| 09:27:41 | LoneTech | it seems correct |
| 10:29:58 | TomW | Is there anyone that has built blob? |
| 12:31:53 | scanline | is back (gone 06:24:27) |
| 16:36:22 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 16:58:47 | scanline | is back (gone 00:22:24) |
| 17:29:33 | scanline | is away: spending time with family |
| 19:17:29 | LoneTech | bad news.. my friend who's better at electronics than I confused the sides on the power connector. seems his tuxscreen is fried. |
| 19:24:17 | scanline | is back (gone 01:54:44) |
| 19:24:39 | LoneTech | wb scanline |
| 19:24:56 | scanline | hi LoneTech |
| 21:27:51 | Aelhaz | lone: ouch! |
| 21:28:02 | Aelhaz | oh, nm, he left , , |
| 22:09:25 | scanline | is away: short nap |