| 00:02:00 | Aelhaz | might not need all the libraries |
| 00:02:09 | Aelhaz | I don't know how they work anyway |
| 00:03:08 | RedBeard | yeah, I don't know, it looks like there are seperate libraries for each of the functions |
| 00:03:15 | Aelhaz | yeah |
| 00:03:48 | RedBeard | so, I could probably leave out any libraries for functionality I don't need, but I'd have to know what I did and didn't need, I'm not there yet |
| 00:06:03 | RedBeard | I've got a lot to learn about the whole iptables/firewall thing before I'll know what I don't want/need |
| 00:06:52 | Aelhaz | ipchains is 44k, 'course, i dunno how limited the functionality will be with 2.4 |
| 00:07:06 | RedBeard | *nod* |
| 00:17:08 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 hours, 41 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: complete with ide zip drive this time [Tue Mar 26 19:35:57 2002] |
| 00:17:08 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:21:08 | BZFlag | Russ: monolithic kernel is there just cause I never changed it. |
| 00:21:09 | jacques | heh someone just submitted a swab() patch on the uclibc list |
| 00:21:36 | BZFlag | I'm planning to get to a single jffs2 root with kernel and modules, but have not taken the time to do it. |
| 00:23:09 | sjm | RedBeard: Have you considered ipfwadm from the uClinux distribution? Binary is 36k when cross-compiled for m68k. We use it in a commercial product - very easy to setup, and works well. |
| 00:23:44 | RedBeard | sjm: I hadn't looked at it |
| 00:24:05 | RedBeard | sjm: what product do you use it in? |
| 00:24:42 | sjm | RedBeard: A serial/ethernet gateway used in the security industry. |
| 00:25:06 | RedBeard | sjm: so, not a company I'd be familiar with? |
| 00:25:32 | sjm | RedBeard: GE Interlogix |
| 00:25:48 | RedBeard | sjm: heard of 'em but not familiar |
| 00:26:01 | RedBeard | sjm: I'll look at ipfwadm |
| 00:31:49 | Aelhaz | it's linux 2.0 technology |
| 00:32:15 | Aelhaz | there's no point in using it when you can use ipchains |
| 00:33:49 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: that's why I hadn't looked at it to date. I guess I'll do some research and then decide what to use |
| 00:34:54 | Aelhaz | it's gonna want to build against linux 2.0 kernel headers for one . . . . |
| 00:35:15 | Aelhaz | probably |
| 00:35:26 | RedBeard | that'd be enough to convince me not to use it |
| 00:36:01 | RedBeard | goes back to reading up on iptables |
| 00:36:09 | Aelhaz | i don't see the point. with a 2.4 kernel, and you're going to have a 2.4 kernel whether you like it or not, the internal workings are iptables. |
| 00:36:21 | Aelhaz | same with using the ipchains tool with 2.4 |
| 00:37:00 | Aelhaz | but it's not going to support all the functionality it did originally, because it's an api compatibility in the kernel, and not the same code |
| 00:39:01 | Aelhaz | there's plenty of space in the flash for 600k of tools/utilities for the major function of the box . . . |
| 00:39:44 | jacques | BZFlag: are you satisfied that the jffs2-aware blob is ready for use? |
| 00:39:48 | RedBeard | that's what I was just checking |
| 00:42:19 | jacques | i need to talk to andersee :-\ |
| 00:51:08 | Aelhaz | the jffs2 image is about 800k to begin with, even if iptables doesn't compress at all, it's OK. and it'll prolly compress down to about 300k |
| 00:51:57 | jacques | gzip -3 it |
| 00:52:06 | jacques | that will tell you how much it will compress on jffs2 |
| 00:54:19 | CosmicPenguin | night all |
| 00:54:28 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Home! |
| 00:59:16 | BZFlag | jacques: no, it's still missing some glue code cause of the new release restucturing. |
| 00:59:24 | BZFlag | jacques: not a lot of work left though. |
| 00:59:43 | BZFlag | later |
| 01:09:52 | jacques | arg |
| 01:09:56 | jacques | fun with env vars |
| 01:11:45 | Aelhaz | thttpd doesn't build, hmm |
| 01:12:12 | jacques | what's the error? |
| 01:13:08 | Aelhaz | arm-uclibc-gcc -O -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_GRP_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_PATHS_H=1 -DHAVE_POLL_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_POLL_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBCRYPT=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_WAITPID=1 -DHAVE_VSNPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_DAEMON=1 -DHAVE_SETSID=1 -DHAVE_GETADDRINFO=1 -DHAVE_GETNAMEINFO=1 -DHAVE_GAI_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_SELECT=1 -DHAVE_POLL=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_STORAGE=1 -D |
| 01:13:09 | Aelhaz | HAVE_SOCKADDR_IN6=1 -I. -c libhttpd.c |
| 01:13:09 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c: In function `ls': |
| 01:13:09 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:2522: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 01:13:10 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c: In function `httpd_start_request': |
| 01:13:12 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:3464: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 01:13:16 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:3467: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 01:13:19 | Aelhaz | make: *** [libhttpd.o] Error 1 |
| 01:13:42 | jacques | libhttpd.c:3467: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 01:13:52 | jacques | i think that's your only real error |
| 01:14:08 | Aelhaz | yeah, but what do i do about it? |
| 01:14:13 | jacques | maybe some type is missing from a uclibc header file |
| 01:14:20 | jacques | find out which type i incomplete |
| 01:14:24 | jacques | is |
| 01:14:49 | jacques | might be really simple |
| 01:15:06 | jacques | starving - must get food |
| 01:27:35 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: do you want iptables binaries? |
| 01:27:41 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: sure |
| 01:33:31 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: I'm reading through the INSTALL and KNOWN_BUGS, you'll probably be better off if I send you a source tree |
| 01:33:44 | RedBeard | with a hacked up Makefile |
| 01:34:05 | RedBeard | there are kernel patches included in the source tree |
| 01:34:43 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: um, ok |
| 01:54:34 | scanline | is back (gone 09:39:56) |
| 01:59:19 | RedBeard | there are 1/2 dozen patches that iptables wants to add to the 2.4.18 kernel, many of them adding more options to the kernel |
| 02:01:36 | prpplague | argh, i'm so sick of trying to drag GPL code out of the hands of korean developers |
| 02:01:56 | prpplague | is mad enough to spit |
| 02:04:25 | prpplague | mallum: howdy |
| 02:04:55 | prpplague | mallum: what time is it there? |
| 02:07:22 | Russ | prpplague: would it help if I knew someone who spoke korean? |
| 02:08:39 | mallum | hmmm about 2 in the morning |
| 02:08:47 | Russ | RedBeard: 48568 Jan 14 19:02 iptables |
| 02:09:38 | RedBeard | Russ: that's about what I've got after striping the binaries, and removing the man pages |
| 02:09:51 | RedBeard | thanks |
| 02:09:57 | Russ | don't forget extensions |
| 02:10:09 | Russ | about 1-2k each |
| 02:10:54 | RedBeard | Russ: yeah, that's about what I have here, there are a few that are larger |
| 02:13:24 | prpplague | Russ: naw, they just need to know a simple phrase - "GPL source now!" |
| 02:14:58 | Russ | could always RE stuff |
| 02:15:44 | prpplague | Russ: i just hate these companies that think they can ride the wave of linux without compling with GPL |
| 02:18:33 | prpplague | maybe we need to capture some of these execs and brand them with the scarlet "GPL" on their foreheads for failure to comply |
| 02:22:46 | jacques | heh |
| 02:34:48 | prpplague | bigpond? |
| 02:35:17 | RedBeard | the pacific ocean? |
| 02:35:36 | sjm | aussie isp |
| 02:36:06 | prpplague | sjm: how goes it? |
| 02:36:23 | sjm | so so, looking forward to time off over easter |
| 02:36:30 | prpplague | sjm: whats a pack of VB go for these days? |
| 02:36:41 | sjm | A pack? |
| 02:36:50 | wzdd | sigh. |
| 02:37:02 | prpplague | sjm: don't they sell it in a 4 pint pack? |
| 02:37:10 | sjm | pints? :) |
| 02:37:25 | prpplague | lol |
| 02:37:32 | prpplague | wzdd: ? |
| 02:38:20 | prpplague | sjm: ok so what does VB coming these days? |
| 02:38:36 | prpplague | s/coming/come in |
| 02:38:43 | sjm | prpplague: I usually get it as a slab (24 cans). |
| 02:39:09 | prpplague | dam |
| 02:39:25 | sjm | But it's been a while, so I couldn't give you an accurate price. |
| 02:39:39 | prpplague | sjm: a 4 pint pack in the states(as of last month) is $47.00 USD |
| 02:40:20 | sjm | How much is a pint (in litres) ?? |
| 02:40:21 | prpplague | all hail the great uclibc codepoet has arrived |
| 02:40:40 | andersee | howdy prpplague |
| 02:40:43 | prpplague | sjm: i.e. about 5 cans |
| 02:40:47 | jacques | andersee: !!!!!!!! |
| 02:40:50 | sjm | Ouch! |
| 02:40:52 | andersee | jacques: hey |
| 02:41:06 | jacques | been waiting for you to show up :-D |
| 02:41:14 | andersee | hides |
| 02:41:17 | Russ | andersee: what have you been doing on uclibc since the release anyway? |
| 02:41:19 | jacques | heh heh heh |
| 02:41:39 | andersee | Russ: :-) |
| 02:42:03 | RedBeard | sjm: 1 pint ~= .5 liters |
| 02:42:18 | andersee | Russ: I'm working on a new config system, for one thing |
| 02:43:18 | prpplague | andersee: what? you mean your not working on getting all those sun java libs into uclibc? lol |
| 02:43:37 | andersee | maybe next week |
| 02:43:42 | andersee | ;-) |
| 02:43:50 | jacques | andersee: have you built stuff with your new toolchain and run it? |
| 02:44:36 | jacques | andersee: look at this: |
| 02:44:45 | jacques | bserver% /usr/local/uclibc/bin/arm-linux-ldd Xfbdev.bak |
| 02:44:46 | jacques | libm.so.0 => /usr/local/uclibc/lib/libm.so.0 |
| 02:44:46 | jacques | libc.so.0 => /usr/local/uclibc/lib/libc.so.0 |
| 02:44:46 | jacques | /usr/local/uclibc/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 => /usr/local/uclibc/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 |
| 02:44:54 | jacques | note the last line |
| 02:45:36 | prpplague | jacques: doh |
| 02:45:51 | jacques | d'oh is right |
| 02:46:44 | jacques | damn i must have scared him off |
| 02:46:53 | andersee | so whats the problem? |
| 02:47:20 | jacques | the /usr/local/uclibc/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 is the problem |
| 02:47:27 | andersee | whats wrong with it? |
| 02:47:38 | andersee | must be slow this evening |
| 02:48:27 | Russ | doesn't see a problem |
| 02:48:41 | prpplague | you have to have the file in /usr/local/uclibc/lib and it doesn't read the lib path probperly |
| 02:49:16 | jacques | give that man a gold star |
| 02:49:22 | Russ | /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) <- /bin/sh |
| 02:49:30 | andersee | Oh. You mean you want it to have libs in /lib? |
| 02:49:41 | jacques | note how the first two lines dont have a path |
| 02:49:54 | Russ | libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40065000) <- /bin/sh |
| 02:50:08 | jacques | it will look fo them in /lib and whatever (dunno how paths are configged in uclibc but in glibc you have ldconfig) |
| 02:50:09 | andersee | Thats a simple enough change to the build script |
| 02:50:30 | jacques | it will only look for ld-uClibc.so.0 in /usr/local/uclibc/lib |
| 02:50:38 | andersee | But it will find them in /lib if you put 'em there... |
| 02:50:44 | andersee | true |
| 02:50:48 | jacques | right about first two |
| 02:51:01 | andersee | So change that part in the toolchain build |
| 02:51:12 | jacques | ?? |
| 02:51:13 | andersee | Just change the uClibc_config.pl setting |
| 02:51:21 | andersee | Oops |
| 02:51:30 | andersee | Time for dinner.. My wife is calling. |
| 02:51:40 | andersee | Back in a bit |
| 02:51:42 | andersee | is away: I'm busy |
| 02:51:43 | jacques | ok |
| 02:52:37 | jacques | Russ: I would not mind if it had no path or /lib, but /usr/local/uclibc/lib is somewhat restrictive |
| 02:52:44 | jacques | I will have to make a dir and symlink |
| 02:52:56 | Russ | jacques: thats configurable at build |
| 02:53:26 | jacques | that's good but I dont know where the config is... |
| 02:53:33 | prpplague | jacques: don't feel too bad, as of 10am this morning i have almost 1000 ksh scripts to move from sco to bash on linux |
| 02:53:48 | jacques | prpplague: d'oh! |
| 02:54:15 | jacques | and will changing that path affect the function of the xtoolchain? |
| 02:54:19 | prpplague | jacques: doh is only three letters, i had a few four letter words |
| 02:54:28 | jacques | prpplague: heh |
| 02:55:19 | Russ | prpplague: s/ksh/sh/ |
| 02:56:43 | jacques | looks for uClibc_config.pl in the toolchain dir. |
| 02:57:25 | jacques | and does not find it |
| 02:58:19 | jacques | hm there's a uClibc_config_fix.pl |
| 02:59:16 | Russ | ahem |
| 02:59:22 | Russ | uClibc/Config |
| 02:59:53 | jacques | yeah I just found that |
| 03:00:03 | jacques | but it look slike if I change that value it will try to install in /lib |
| 03:00:07 | Russ | which should probably be a symlink to extra/Configs/Config.arm |
| 03:00:11 | jacques | which I do NOT want it to do as a xtoolchain |
| 03:01:03 | jacques | # DEVEL_PREFIX is the directory into which the uClibc development |
| 03:01:03 | jacques | # environment will be installed. The result will look something |
| 03:01:03 | jacques | # like the following: |
| 03:01:03 | jacques | # DEVEL_PREFIX/ |
| 03:01:03 | jacques | # bin/ <contains gcc, ld, etc> |
| 03:01:04 | jacques | # lib/ <contains all runtime and static libs> |
| 03:01:06 | jacques | # include/ <Where all the header files go> |
| 03:01:08 | jacques | # This value is used by the 'make install' Makefile target. Since this |
| 03:01:09 | Russ | SHARED_LIB_LOADER_PATH= |
| 03:01:10 | jacques | # directory is compiled into the uclibc cross compiler spoofer, you |
| 03:01:12 | jacques | # have to recompile if you change this value... |
| 03:01:14 | jacques | DEVEL_PREFIX=/usr/local/uclibc |
| 03:01:19 | jacques | that looks good |
| 03:01:25 | prpplague | Russ: i wish, but they also have used a ton of sco specific bastardizations |
| 03:01:34 | Russ | prpplague: it was a joke |
| 03:01:39 | jacques | but it's already set to /lib |
| 03:01:45 | prpplague | Russ: ohh, hahaha |
| 03:01:49 | Russ | SHARED_LIB_LOADER_PATH=/lib? |
| 03:01:55 | jacques | # When using shared libraries, this path is the location where the |
| 03:01:55 | jacques | # shared library will be invoked. This value will be compiled into |
| 03:01:55 | jacques | # every binary compiled with uClibc. |
| 03:01:55 | jacques | # |
| 03:01:55 | jacques | # BIG FAT WARNING: |
| 03:01:56 | jacques | # If you do not have a shared library loader with the correct name |
| 03:01:58 | jacques | # sitting in the directory this points to, your binaries will not run. |
| 03:02:00 | jacques | SHARED_LIB_LOADER_PATH=/lib |
| 03:02:02 | jacques | it's already like that |
| 03:02:18 | Russ | #SYSTEM_LDSO=/lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 03:02:59 | Russ | right? |
| 03:03:03 | jacques | that's for non-native |
| 03:03:08 | Russ | is that uClibc/Config? |
| 03:03:14 | jacques | # If you are using shared libraries, but do not want/have a native |
| 03:03:14 | jacques | # uClibc shared library loader |
| 03:03:17 | Russ | or extra/Configs/Config.arm |
| 03:03:38 | jacques | I have/want a native uClibc shared library loader |
| 03:03:44 | Russ | right, thats why its # |
| 03:03:53 | jacques | why is SHARED_LIB_LOADER_PATH=/lib not working? |
| 03:03:58 | jacques | that's the proper config |
| 03:04:01 | jacques | and it's properly set |
| 03:04:09 | Russ | in uClibc/Config? |
| 03:04:43 | Russ | maybe your ldd is doing something funky |
| 03:04:52 | Russ | strings compiled_binary | head |
| 03:05:15 | jacques | I see this in Config~ |
| 03:05:22 | jacques | Config~:SHARED_LIB_LOADER_PATH=$(DEVEL_PREFIX)/lib |
| 03:05:28 | jacques | which is what's actually being done |
| 03:06:12 | Russ | maybe you need to make clean |
| 03:06:19 | Russ | and do a strings compiled_binary | head though |
| 03:06:52 | jacques | I have been doing \rm -rf - that's as clean as you get |
| 03:07:34 | Russ | so where did Config~ come from? |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | bserver% strings Xfbdev.bak|head |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | /usr/local/uclibc/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | libm.so.0 |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | sqrt |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | _DYNAMIC |
| 03:07:37 | jacques | ceil |
| 03:07:40 | jacques | floor |
| 03:07:42 | jacques | __udivsi3 |
| 03:07:44 | jacques | atan2 |
| 03:07:46 | jacques | cbrt |
| 03:07:48 | jacques | __divsi3 |
| 03:07:57 | jacques | guess it was there before the perl script ran - it has same mod date as Config |
| 03:09:27 | jacques | i guess for now I can just make a symlink in /usr/local/uclibc/lib/ on the tux |
| 03:09:35 | jacques | thi is not my biggest problem right now anyway |
| 03:09:42 | jacques | ts is |
| 03:19:08 | prpplague | andersee: any reports of fltk apps being compiled against uclibc yet? |
| 03:19:46 | jacques | heh |
| 03:19:55 | jacques | i built fltk last night |
| 03:20:05 | jacques | but i need ot actually get X running in order to test any apps |
| 03:20:24 | andersee | is back (gone 00:28:41) |
| 03:20:28 | wzdd | hmm. Are people here mostly using X, or playing with microwindows etc? |
| 03:20:49 | andersee | jacques: edit the Makefile for building the toolchain |
| 03:21:26 | andersee | Russ: Config~ is a tmp file |
| 03:21:48 | jacques | andersee: please tell me where to edit the makefile |
| 03:22:04 | andersee | jacques: Look in the Makefile for uClibc_config.pl |
| 03:22:47 | jacques | andersee: did you see my convo with russ above? |
| 03:23:00 | jacques | it looks like uclibc is correctly configured but it's not doing the right thing |
| 03:23:01 | sjm | wzdd: Probably more microwindows than X |
| 03:23:06 | andersee | jacques: Then make sure it has --ldso_path="/lib" |
| 03:23:29 | andersee | jacques: Then it will do what you are expecting it to do |
| 03:23:46 | jacques | all occurrences od ldso_path in makefile are set tht way |
| 03:23:59 | jacques | already |
| 03:24:12 | jacques | tho without the quotes |
| 03:25:16 | andersee | Then you should be fine |
| 03:25:31 | Russ | that was bad (TM) |
| 03:25:32 | wzdd | sjm: nod |
| 03:25:38 | Russ | xchat crashed |
| 03:25:45 | andersee | tests it |
| 03:25:52 | jacques | andersee: but I'm not |
| 03:25:59 | jacques | sigh w are going in circles |
| 03:26:09 | jacques | it's not this omportant - I'll just make a syml,link |
| 03:26:37 | andersee | jacques: ok, I see the problem now |
| 03:28:21 | andersee | jacques: In gcc-3.0.4/Makefile about line 254 I call perl to change all instances of ld-linux.so.*[0-9] to ${TARGET_PATH}/lib/ld-uClibc.so.0} |
| 03:28:43 | andersee | That needs to be changed to /lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 |
| 03:29:06 | jacques | ok cool |
| 03:29:30 | andersee | You can save yourself the time rebuilding gcc by just editing the spec file |
| 03:29:38 | BZFlag | well, there should probably be a PREFIX_PATH and then a TARGET_PATH, no? |
| 03:29:59 | BZFlag | where prefix gets chopped and target survives. |
| 03:30:16 | BZFlag | or prehaps the reverse? ;-) |
| 03:30:25 | jacques | i was thinking there whuld be two defines |
| 03:30:27 | andersee | jacques: edit toolchain/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.0.4/specs |
| 03:30:31 | jacques | from looking at the makefile |
| 03:30:41 | jacques | andersee: looking |
| 03:31:13 | andersee | jacques: search for dynamic-linker and then fix the path which follows |
| 03:31:16 | jacques | ah oi see it! |
| 03:31:45 | andersee | Then when you link it will do what you want it to |
| 03:31:50 | jacques | COOL |
| 03:31:53 | jacques | phew |
| 03:32:00 | jacques | thanks! |
| 03:32:57 | jacques | yep looks like that did it |
| 03:33:50 | jacques | :-) |
| 03:34:09 | andersee | takes a bow |
| 03:34:47 | prpplague | jacques: so how well did the fltk apps compile? any problems/tricks? |
| 03:36:10 | prpplague | has a mental image of millions of years ago, andersee the only caveman with fire |
| 03:36:24 | sjm | TomW: did you get the mw stuff sorted out? |
| 03:36:45 | jacques | prpplague: I have only build fltk - no apps yet |
| 03:37:05 | jacques | prpplague: once I get X actually working again (which may require patcihng ts driver etc) I will be able to test |
| 03:37:15 | prpplague | jacques: ohh |
| 03:37:51 | prpplague | jacques: have tried fltk 2.0 yet? |
| 03:38:07 | prpplague | jacques: i mean tried it period not just on arm? |
| 03:39:12 | jacques | prpplague: nope - been using 1.1b |
| 03:39:15 | andersee | BZFlag: Is dq no longer with us? |
| 03:39:20 | jacques | prpplague: wnt me to try it? |
| 03:39:33 | BZFlag | from time to time. |
| 03:40:28 | BZFlag | andersee: I still don't have what I'd call a stable mips qube kernel, that's what's holdig me back from making dq rikers.org |
| 03:40:36 | BZFlag | want me to power it up again? |
| 03:40:55 | BZFlag | goes to do it anyway |
| 03:43:07 | prpplague | jacques: i'm try the cvs fltk-2.0 now on x86, lots of compile errors |
| 03:43:09 | andersee | BZFlag: sjhill and I were working on getting uClibc's ldso working on mips earlier today. |
| 03:44:29 | BZFlag | argh... fsck |
| 03:45:27 | BZFlag | andersee: just added you to uucp group. minicom on q will get you a serial console to dq |
| 03:45:41 | BZFlag | it's fsck now, guess there's not much to do but watch. ;-) |
| 03:45:52 | andersee | k, thx |
| 03:46:26 | andersee | BZFlag: mind at least upgrading rikers.org to a current version of vim? /me was suffering |
| 03:46:28 | andersee | :-) |
| 03:46:48 | BZFlag | yeah, it's that butt ugly rh/cobalt release. |
| 03:46:49 | andersee | no real rush or anything, if dq can stay live... |
| 03:46:57 | BZFlag | I'm dieing to get debian on there. |
| 03:47:15 | andersee | I expect you could just run debian on top of the old kernel, for the time being |
| 03:47:36 | andersee | Remember how I upgraded that one old powerpc box? |
| 03:48:08 | BZFlag | heh. I suppose I could, I was hoping to get ext3 up. ;-) |
| 03:48:23 | andersee | has enjoyed having ext3 on his netwinder |
| 03:48:37 | BZFlag | whacks andersee |
| 03:48:56 | andersee | hehe |
| 03:50:19 | TomW | sjm: No, I have some problems with some mw sources not finding include files / defs. I gave up early this morning and will tackle it later. |
| 03:51:20 | sjm | TomW: weird. worked straight out of the box for me... |
| 03:52:06 | TomW | sjm: Well, it is Erik's latest buildroot, so... There *might* be a few anomloies with prior versions. |
| 03:52:53 | TomW | sjm: I went brain-dead abt 3AM. |
| 03:53:22 | sjm | TomW: Ah yes... I'm using an older uClibc. |
| 03:54:02 | TomW | sjm: From my experience, find a uClibc that works and stick with it. |
| 03:54:12 | TomW | :-D |
| 03:54:38 | sjm | hehe. I intend to, at least for a while, I have a very stable system now, and am quite happy with it. |
| 03:55:04 | TomW | sjm: But, then, that is why I got the latest buildroot: things have been too quiet around here so I needed something to stir the pot. |
| 03:57:06 | TomW | sjm: actually, that statement is not far from the mark. I realize that I need to understand the "wrapper" environment that Erik uses to cross-build for the ARM platform. |
| 03:58:06 | BZFlag | andersee: dq is alive |
| 04:05:30 | andersee | BZFlag: cool, thx |
| 04:12:46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: working late? |
| 04:12:59 | CosmicPenguin | is at home |
| 04:13:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fixing tt bugs?lol |
| 04:13:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not a chance.... I doubt I could even compile a hello world on a windoze box.. :) |
| 04:14:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you mean, not with out a gpf? |
| 04:14:06 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:14:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so whats the work on the stb's? |
| 04:14:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how goes the dev? |
| 04:14:40 | TomW | sjm: nxscribble.c needs: asm/types.h & linux/nls.h to define what __u16 and wchar_t are. |
| 04:15:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you tried fltk-2.0 |
| 04:15:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: once |
| 04:15:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: once? you say that like the question was "ever been out with a fat chick?" |
| 04:16:49 | CosmicPenguin | Its more like the "I didn't inhale" issue... :) |
| 04:16:58 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:17:00 | CosmicPenguin | Friends don't let friends use alpha code |
| 04:17:04 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:18:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: any word on pixil? |
| 04:18:14 | CosmicPenguin | As far as I know, it is dead |
| 04:18:55 | prpplague | thats a shame |
| 04:19:07 | prpplague | i thought it had great potential |
| 04:19:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you wern't the only one |
| 04:20:12 | prpplague | pixil was one of the few items that i would have recomended my company actually pay to use |
| 04:23:08 | CosmicPenguin | be back in just a second |
| 04:23:13 | jacques | anyone know the current state of the ts driver in the kernel? |
| 04:24:01 | prpplague | shakes his head |
| 04:24:21 | prpplague | jacques: i'm a stick in the mud, i play with old kernels |
| 04:27:03 | jacques | prpplague: how old? |
| 04:27:40 | prpplague | jacques: 2.4.17 |
| 04:28:01 | sjm | TomW: where are those files included from? |
| 04:29:15 | TomW | sjm: they are not included. A search of the include file possibilities shows that only the kernel source tree contains includes which define "wchar_t" & "__u16". |
| 04:29:51 | TomW | sjm: something broke someplace. |
| 04:30:53 | TomW | sjm: tinytoe also has some missing #defs. |
| 04:31:35 | prpplague | TomW: btw thanks for the schematics |
| 04:31:56 | sjm | I'm using nanowm these days. Haven't used tinytoe for some time now. |
| 04:31:57 | TomW | sjm: the tinytoe missing #defs are related to broken microwin *.h files references. |
| 04:33:12 | TomW | sjm: so, I am focusing on nano-X. I decided to get the latest source from cvs.microwin.org, figured that if I was going to spend all this time rewriting header references, it may as well be with the latest sources. |
| 04:33:40 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, but, I have not yet spent the time to verify that the documented pinouts of U602 are correct. |
| 04:33:55 | prpplague | TomW: hmm |
| 04:34:12 | prpplague | TomW: i still haven't had time to play with my stuff either |
| 04:34:42 | | jacques: sorry... |
| 04:34:42 | jacques | ibot: tslib |
| 04:34:44 | TomW | prpplague: yes, a quick buzz-out with an ohmmeter seemed to bear out that the oinouts looked reasonable. |
| 04:34:46 | jacques | grrr |
| 04:35:39 | TomW | prpplague: I dragged out one of the fully assembled Tux's yesterday and started attempting to get nano-X running on it. <sigh> |
| 04:39:33 | prpplague | TomW: assembled? whats with that? |
| 04:39:34 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:39:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wb |
| 04:40:42 | prpplague | you might be a geek if there are more screws removed from your electronics than inserted |
| 04:42:21 | jacques | arg ts is not progressing very fast at all |
| 04:42:38 | jacques | am reading arm kernel list |
| 04:44:56 | TomW | prpplague: "assembled" == "I didn't canabalize this one". |
| 04:45:47 | TomW | prpplague: you might be a geek if you have screws on your desktop and you cannot remember where they came from.. |
| 04:46:18 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: or on the floor |
| 04:46:25 | BZFlag | any of you hw type got a zaurus? |
| 04:46:39 | BZFlag | want's to know what the pins next to the battery do. |
| 04:46:46 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: A.K.A. "vacuum test" |
| 04:47:05 | BZFlag | I assume jtag is there, and so I'd like to put a better boot loader on it. |
| 04:47:27 | BZFlag | don't know how to detect the jtag pins though. |
| 04:47:40 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: stick a voltmeter on, see what pops up...:) |
| 04:47:47 | BZFlag | there should be 3.3v and gnd of course, but then the others. |
| 04:49:26 | BZFlag | need to detect TDI/TDO/TCK/TMS and probably nTRST and nRESET |
| 04:49:35 | prpplague | just remember, when you let the magic smoke out, it won't work anymore....... |
| 04:49:41 | BZFlag | heh |
| 04:50:48 | BZFlag | http://home1.gte.net/res06upw/Pictures/sharpapart02.jpg <- look to the right of the battery label on the main board. |
| 04:51:29 | TomW | prpplague: I'd noticed that.. Wonder if we should submit a Paper somewhere refuting the principles of Electron & Ion flow in electrical circuits? |
| 04:53:42 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:53:50 | TomW | BZFlag: Time to get out the ohmmeter and the datasheet for the processor? |
| 04:54:53 | TomW | looks like microwindows does not play well with the latest buildroot. At least that is my theory. Time to regress back to an earlier buildroot... |
| 05:06:00 | BZFlag | should be similar to the sa1100 on the tux |
| 05:09:26 | kergoth | is away: coding |
| 05:09:57 | TomW | sjm: Well, that answers that. Microwin won't compile cleanly under anything (ARM at least). Next is to try compiling under the native gcc. |
| 05:10:16 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: them's fighting words |
| 05:10:27 | sjm | Indeed :) |
| 05:11:35 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: <sigh> I know.. I am getting nowhere fast. I just need to get it compile cleanly under something, then I'll go back to hack at the ARM stuff. |
| 05:12:26 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: ok, lay the errors on me |
| 05:14:13 | sjm | Err... This sfWiki's database has returned an error,"2003: (database.inc/24) Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysql'(111)Guessing database down or site.inc misconfigured.". |
| 05:14:31 | CosmicPenguin | lol |
| 05:15:03 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: Compiling nxscribble.c ... |
| 05:15:03 | TomW | In file included from hre_api.h:39, |
| 05:15:03 | TomW | from scrib.h:27, |
| 05:15:04 | TomW | from nxscribble.c:11: |
| 05:15:06 | TomW | hre.h:271: parse error before `wchar_t' |
| 05:15:08 | TomW | hre.h:271: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union |
| 05:16:00 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I can clear the error by adding: "#include <asm/types.h>" and "#include <linux/nls.h>" into the nxscribble.c file. |
| 05:16:05 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: you're using gcc 3.0, huh? |
| 05:16:30 | CosmicPenguin | in microwin/src/demos, pull nxscribble from the Makefile |
| 05:16:39 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: arm-linux-gcc version 2.95.3 |
| 05:16:51 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: uhh.... |
| 05:17:00 | jacques | how do I turn a configure.in into configure ? |
| 05:17:07 | CosmicPenguin | autoconf |
| 05:17:25 | jacques | never mind |
| 05:17:31 | jacques | i sonehow missed the autogen.sh |
| 05:18:14 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: gcc v3.0 is not something I need to use, yet. I have no interest in C++. |
| 05:18:26 | CosmicPenguin | gcc is a C compiler too you know |
| 05:18:41 | prpplague | jacques: http://www.fltk.org/links.php?V55 is that you? |
| 05:18:45 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, nxscribble is old and useless. Don't use it |
| 05:18:51 | TomW | ok. |
| 05:18:59 | jacques | prpplague: nope |
| 05:19:00 | TomW | bbl |
| 05:19:08 | TomW | goes compiling. |
| 05:19:11 | jacques | whoah |
| 05:19:18 | jacques | how does xcompiling and libtool mix? |
| 05:19:25 | CosmicPenguin | not well |
| 05:19:58 | jacques | that's what i thought |
| 05:20:18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you got any good examples of handling events under fltk? |
| 05:20:24 | CosmicPenguin | Sure.... |
| 05:20:35 | CosmicPenguin | Anything in particular? |
| 05:21:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looking for something to report the mouse position in a test widget, just need an example |
| 05:21:50 | CosmicPenguin | ok.... |
| 05:22:12 | jacques | crap crap crap |
| 05:22:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my son wants a paint program for the yopy, i figure since there was not one i could find for fltk, it would be a nice educational app |
| 05:22:32 | jacques | how the F am i supposed to xcompile this |
| 05:23:57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: First, you need to have a widget derived from Fl_Widget |
| 05:24:29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Next, you over load the handle() function in your widget: int handle(int event) |
| 05:24:52 | CosmicPenguin | The event variable will be one of a few types (see FL/Enumeraations.H) for a list |
| 05:25:20 | CosmicPenguin | For example, a mouse move event is called FL_MOVE. |
| 05:25:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: right, then i can use event_y and event_x to grab the values, |
| 05:25:36 | CosmicPenguin | Fl::e_y and Fl::e_x |
| 05:26:01 | CosmicPenguin | Those will be relative to the window.... Fl::e_x_root and Fl::e_y_root will be relative to the root |
| 05:26:56 | jacques | penguin% man libtool |
| 05:26:56 | jacques | No manual entry for libtool |
| 05:26:59 | jacques | this SUCKS |
| 05:27:08 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: libtool is evil |
| 05:28:10 | jacques | i know |
| 05:28:15 | jacques | this is really pissing me off |
| 05:28:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think in need to go for round two of RTFM |
| 05:28:26 | jacques | why the F did rmk use libtool for tslib??????????????????????? |
| 05:29:08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: There really isn't a manual to FR... :) |
| 05:29:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Its more of a RTFC situation... |
| 05:29:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, there is a section of docs on subclassing of Fl_Widget, but i seem to be missing something |
| 05:30:15 | witty | good solaris channel ? |
| 05:30:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've already made changes to several base widgets such as Fl_Output, but i can't seem to get "new" widgets working properly |
| 05:31:06 | witty | hello all |
| 05:31:13 | prpplague | witty: howdy |
| 05:31:34 | witty | prpplague: do you know where I can find a good solaris channel ? |
| 05:31:35 | prpplague | witty: no solaris here, just embedded linux |
| 05:31:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: handle() and draw() are the two most important methods |
| 05:31:54 | witty | thx.... |
| 05:31:58 | prpplague | witty: sorry, i have an aversion to solaris |
| 05:32:22 | witty | prpplague: heh I understand thx ;) |
| 05:32:40 | Aelhaz | the last time i used solaris, I hacked at it until it was indistinguishable from linux |
| 05:32:51 | wzdd | Are there any other widget sets apart from fltk that target nano-x? |
| 05:33:14 | CosmicPenguin | wzdd: not right now |
| 05:33:21 | wzdd | (please excuse the inane questions - I've never used nano-x before :) |
| 05:33:26 | | somebody said tinywidgets was a widget set? |
| 05:33:26 | sjm | ibot: tinywidgets |
| 05:33:48 | witty | Aelhaz: someday I will be there... |
| 05:34:10 | prpplague | needs zzz, but instead reads man pages |
| 05:34:23 | Aelhaz | it wasn't very hard really |
| 05:34:28 | CosmicPenguin | Google is hiring... I guess that would be the opposite of embedded systems? |
| 05:34:35 | | sjm: excuse me? |
| 05:34:35 | sjm | ibot tiny widgets |
| 05:34:40 | Aelhaz | where are they hiring? |
| 05:35:03 | wzdd | sjm: I looked it up, thanks. ;) |
| 05:35:34 | jacques | my god tslib is 1000 times uglier than it needs to be |
| 05:35:40 | jacques | just the install process |
| 05:35:47 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: http://www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html |
| 05:36:06 | witty | ahhh man pages seem to get so redundant |
| 05:36:16 | witty | cya all |
| 05:36:55 | sjm | wzdd: I've used it under nanox, not extensively, but it works okay. |
| 05:38:37 | wzdd | sjm: Yeah, just looking through the tutorial. Interested in finding out what my options are. :) |
| 05:39:18 | jacques | here's a qestion |
| 05:39:38 | jacques | is there any GUI actually WORKING for the tux right now with a recent kernel? |
| 05:39:48 | jacques | xfree? no ts |
| 05:39:59 | jacques | microwindows? |
| 05:40:01 | jacques | nano-x? |
| 05:40:04 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: Alex Holden has Microwindows working |
| 05:40:06 | | you are, like, using kernel-2.4.17-rmk5-aph with the buildroot from CVS and microwin-aph-11feb2002 |
| 05:40:06 | sjm | ibot: sjm |
| 05:40:28 | CosmicPenguin | has a broken serial port on his laptop, or else he would have Microwindows working too |
| 05:40:29 | sjm | jacques: That kernel, that microwin image. No problems. |
| 05:40:34 | jacques | ah a recent but heavily patched kernel |
| 05:40:38 | jacques | sigh |
| 05:40:47 | CosmicPenguin | 2.4.16 had serious TS problems in the kernel level |
| 05:41:03 | jacques | how about 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 ? |
| 05:41:15 | jacques | like something in a recent buildroot |
| 05:41:16 | CosmicPenguin | The latest microwindows has a very hacked clone of tslib that I wrote |
| 05:41:25 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm... |
| 05:41:36 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Feel like updating the buildroot for Microwindows |
| 05:41:41 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 05:41:44 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: so then the latest uwin should work |
| 05:41:53 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: with the buildroot kernel |
| 05:42:06 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: I don't know how much of alex's patch made it into the buildroot stream, unfortunately |
| 05:42:09 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Requires a kernel patch for the ts too... |
| 05:42:23 | jacques | d ' oh |
| 05:42:27 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Really? I didn't know that |
| 05:42:31 | jacques | what a Fing mess |
| 05:42:39 | jacques | tihs is why i dropped out for like 2 months |
| 05:42:52 | CosmicPenguin | Plus, Alex's patch has a bit more alpha level stuff than I would like in a distro |
| 05:43:08 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: I will go in tommorrow and get my serial port fixed so I can update the buildroot |
| 05:43:22 | CosmicPenguin | It's my responsibility anyway (or at least it used to be) |
| 05:43:39 | jacques | heh, buildroot just got working again a couple days ago |
| 05:44:04 | jacques | i just want to be back where I was with 2.4.7 |
| 05:44:11 | jacques | but with more stability |
| 05:44:51 | CosmicPenguin | withholds his months old rant against changing the touchscreen API in the middle of a stable kernel version |
| 05:45:00 | jacques | exactly |
| 05:45:08 | jacques | 2.5 i dont mind |
| 05:45:18 | jacques | this is like linux changing VM in the middle of 2.4 |
| 05:45:21 | sjm | Well, Alex's kernel patch changes the rmk touchscreen patch. Moves the order of assignment around a bit and doesn't clear one of the bits. Can't remember which. |
| 05:45:22 | jacques | linuS |
| 05:47:06 | Russ | what touchscreen stuff is in alex's patch? |
| 05:47:38 | jacques | sjm: that patch also gets pressure, right? |
| 05:48:33 | sjm | jacques: the nanox driver reads pressure, yes. |
| 05:48:44 | jacques | mmmmm |
| 05:48:51 | sjm | Russ: no new functionality, just changes the order in which things are done. |
| 05:49:11 | Russ | sjm: to what end |
| 05:50:14 | sjm | Russ: I don't have it on this machine (it's at home, I'm at work) so I can't say precisely. But I remember comparing the two when I applied it, and wondering why it was... |
| 05:50:14 | prpplague | jacques: ya what was it with 2.4.7 that seemed to be a nice kernel release |
| 05:51:04 | Russ | sjm: I maintain the tux kernels, so I like to try to get all the relevent patches in there |
| 05:51:34 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Before you do, I'll ask Alex why he made the changes |
| 05:51:39 | sjm | Russ: This was a patch against the mainstream kernel. |
| 05:53:45 | jacques | prpplague: well it was before the ts and sound driver changes |
| 05:54:02 | CosmicPenguin | Well, I do believe I will sign off and play some playstation II for a while |
| 05:54:03 | jacques | prpplague: but it was not as stable as later kernels for me when running X |
| 05:54:04 | CosmicPenguin | good night all! |
| 05:54:09 | andersee | night |
| 05:54:09 | jacques | later CosmicPenguin |
| 05:54:19 | sjm | bye |
| 06:09:22 | prpplague | ok we have a series problem...... |
| 06:09:29 | jacques | ? |
| 06:09:36 | prpplague | is out of beer |
| 06:09:39 | jacques | heh |
| 06:09:48 | RedBeard | oooh, that's bad! |
| 06:10:54 | prpplague | time to start hitting the tea and altoids |
| 06:11:15 | jacques | ? |
| 06:12:14 | RedBeard | prpplague's problem is bad |
| 06:12:27 | RedBeard | I'm actually doing quite well here |
| 06:12:42 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: how far did you get with thttpd? |
| 06:12:55 | Aelhaz | not far |
| 06:13:05 | Aelhaz | i don't know what to look for in the code |
| 06:13:15 | Aelhaz | and was too distracted to even figure out how to look for it |
| 06:13:41 | RedBeard | heh, okay. I'll take a stab at it, and hope to make it as far as you did |
| 06:15:48 | RedBeard | I don't have much hope, you've done more xcompiling than I have |
| 06:21:55 | jacques | OK |
| 06:21:58 | jacques | here is what yo udo |
| 06:22:01 | jacques | you do |
| 06:22:17 | RedBeard | is digging around in the Makefile that configure created |
| 06:22:34 | jacques | in libhttpd.c add #include <time.h> right before #include <sys/time.h> |
| 06:22:41 | jacques | then it will build |
| 06:22:46 | RedBeard | heh |
| 06:22:47 | RedBeard | okay |
| 06:22:48 | RedBeard | thanks |
| 06:22:50 | jacques | -rwxr-xr-x 1 fontenot fontenot 77443 Mar 26 22:23 thttpd* |
| 06:23:00 | jacques | bserver% file thttpd |
| 06:23:00 | jacques | thttpd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Advanced RISC Machines ARM, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 06:24:20 | jacques | you're welcome |
| 06:24:34 | jacques | bring me more easy problems - it makes me feel good. |
| 06:24:40 | RedBeard | heh |
| 06:24:44 | jacques | especially since I am getting nowhere with my oen |
| 06:24:47 | jacques | own |
| 06:24:47 | RedBeard | I'm glad it was simple |
| 06:25:00 | jacques | do you wnna know how I solved it? |
| 06:25:09 | jacques | forfuture reference |
| 06:25:47 | jacques | i looked at the error: libhttpd.c:3467: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 06:26:10 | jacques | on that line I found zone = t->tm_gmtoff / 60L; |
| 06:26:25 | jacques | well the only "type" in there is tm_gmtoff |
| 06:26:54 | jacques | so I grepped for tm_gmtoff in the proper include dir (which happened to be /usr/local/uclibc/include since I am using the toolchain) |
| 06:27:01 | jacques | I got hits for that type in time.h |
| 06:27:14 | jacques | if I had not gotten hits I would have grepped the subdirs like sys and linux |
| 06:27:28 | RedBeard | ah, cool, thanks! |
| 06:27:48 | jacques | i noticed time.h is not included in libhttpd.c nor is it included by sys/time.h (which *is* included by libhttpd.c) |
| 06:28:03 | jacques | so I added it, typed make, et voila! |
| 06:29:35 | jacques | it's < 64kB stripped |
| 06:29:38 | jacques | not bad |
| 06:30:03 | RedBeard | very nice |
| 06:30:15 | jacques | let me know if it actually works :-D |
| 06:30:25 | prpplague | hears bed calling........ |
| 06:30:26 | RedBeard | I'll get to that tomorrow |
| 06:30:28 | prpplague | night all |
| 06:30:32 | jacques | night prpplague |
| 07:04:09 | RedBeard | takes a hint from prpplague and heads to bed too |
| 07:23:35 | jacques | hi BZFlag |
| 07:24:33 | BZFlag | hey |
| 07:25:54 | jacques | hmm I forgot - one I have networking up on my tuxscreen, what's the best way to get files to it? |
| 07:26:31 | BZFlag | wget on the tux? |
| 07:26:44 | BZFlag | nfs mount, zmodem over serial, etc. |
| 07:27:08 | jacques | looks like wget |
| 07:27:12 | Russ | wget is my fav |
| 07:27:20 | Russ | does ftp with password too |
| 07:27:20 | jacques | yeah that seems like the best |
| 07:27:47 | jacques | heh tho I have disabled ftp on all my boxes |
| 07:27:52 | jacques | i usually use scp |
| 07:28:05 | jacques | wonder if there's a netstat in busybox |
| 07:28:21 | BZFlag | in the cvs bb there is. |
| 07:28:28 | jacques | oooooh |
| 07:28:32 | jacques | :-) |
| 07:28:52 | jacques | Russ: BTW, someone submitted a swab() patch to the uclibc list today |
| 07:28:58 | jacques | coincidence |
| 07:33:22 | Russ | heh |
| 07:33:57 | Russ | jacques: I have a nice internal nat network |
| 07:34:08 | Russ | so I have telnet and ftp open on the inside |
| 07:34:18 | jacques | hmm |
| 07:34:26 | jacques | screen is stealing my ctrl-A from minicom |
| 07:34:45 | Russ | use meta instead |
| 07:34:47 | jacques | and I dont remember how to deal with it |
| 07:35:03 | jacques | meta ? |
| 07:35:13 | Russ | alt |
| 07:35:16 | Russ | its in the config |
| 07:35:27 | Russ | instead of ctrl-a p |
| 07:35:31 | Russ | you just do alt-p |
| 07:35:35 | jacques | ah |
| 07:35:55 | jacques | hmg |
| 07:35:57 | jacques | not working for me |
| 07:36:14 | Russ | you have to configure it to do that first |
| 07:36:25 | Russ | sleep |
| 07:36:37 | jacques | yeah but I am stuck now |
| 07:48:04 | jacques | anyone know a good terminal prog smaller than rxvt ? |
| 07:48:10 | jacques | x terminal that is |
| 07:59:24 | jacques | how is library path configured on a uclibc based system? |
| 08:08:01 | jacques | arg i cannot remember what I had to do with ptys to get rxvt to run |
| 08:09:10 | jacques | how do i get busybox ps to show me the tty ? |
| 09:16:58 | jacques | dammit what now |
| 09:17:14 | jacques | something wrong with writing to flash or jffs2 |
| 09:18:20 | jacques | # df |
| 09:18:20 | jacques | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:18:20 | jacques | /dev/mtdblock2 3072 2708 364 88% / |
| 09:18:21 | jacques | # sync |
| 09:18:21 | jacques | # df |
| 09:18:21 | jacques | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:18:23 | jacques | /dev/mtdblock2 3072 2836 236 92% / |
| 09:18:25 | jacques | # df |
| 09:18:27 | jacques | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:18:29 | jacques | /dev/mtdblock2 3072 2964 108 96% / |
| 09:18:31 | jacques | # df |
| 09:18:33 | jacques | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:18:35 | jacques | /dev/mtdblock2 3072 3072 0 100% / |
| 09:18:37 | jacques | # df |
| 09:18:39 | jacques | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:18:41 | jacques | /dev/mtdblock2 3072 2836 236 92% / |
| 09:18:43 | jacques | that's without me doing anything |
| 09:18:55 | jacques | and every command hangs for several seconds |
| 09:18:59 | LoneTech | looks disconcerting |
| 09:20:08 | jacques | very |
| 09:24:39 | jacques | i wish the tux would flash a led or something when it's writing to flash |
| 09:24:44 | jacques | so i know it's not hung |
| 09:24:54 | LoneTech | could code that into the mtd driver |
| 09:26:04 | jacques | would probably be tux-specific tho |
| 09:26:14 | jacques | so would be in -tux patch to kernel |
| 09:28:22 | jacques | heh it would be kinda cool - like a hd light on normal machines |
| 09:28:37 | jacques | well except i would only want it to flash while writing |
| 09:40:14 | jacques | http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa0.png |
| 09:40:25 | jacques | flwm baby |
| 09:42:19 | LoneTech | flwm is nice |
| 09:42:24 | LoneTech | ion too |
| 09:42:28 | LoneTech | I use pwm at home |
| 09:43:19 | jacques | well the real achievement is that flwm requires fltk |
| 09:43:28 | jacques | and both require c++ support |
| 09:44:13 | jacques | unfortunately, between libX11, libXext, libstdc++, and the X server I am running out of flash |
| 09:44:35 | jacques | oh, and libfltk |
| 09:46:17 | LoneTech | big. |
| 09:46:24 | LoneTech | likes picogui |
| 09:57:16 | jacques | http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa1.png |
| 10:04:02 | jacques | http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa2.png |
| 10:12:41 | jacques | mallum: hi |
| 10:12:52 | mallum | hi jacques |
| 10:13:09 | jacques | mallum: were you one of the ppl intersted in fltk on the tux? |
| 10:13:33 | mallum | jacques: its all c++ isn't it ? |
| 10:13:53 | jacques | mallum: yeah so? |
| 10:14:22 | mallum | jacques: dont really know c++ |
| 10:14:29 | mallum | not looking for fight ! |
| 10:14:49 | jacques | mallum: heh I just thought you might be one of the ppl who was asking for fltk on the tux |
| 10:14:54 | jacques | I forget who they were |
| 10:15:04 | jacques | but they wanted it bad |
| 10:15:10 | mallum | jacques: have you got it going ? |
| 10:15:15 | jacques | yep |
| 10:15:19 | mallum | cool |
| 10:15:19 | jacques | just tonight |
| 10:15:29 | jacques | with andersee's new c++ toolchain |
| 10:15:34 | mallum | you got binarys ? |
| 10:16:21 | jacques | yeah but not packaged in any way |
| 10:17:36 | jacques | oh, I also dont have touchscreen working in my x server with recent kernels right now :-\ |
| 10:18:50 | mallum | oh yes, I thought somebody fixed that ? |
| 10:19:08 | jacques | yeah they kinda did - no calibration |
| 10:19:17 | jacques | and I dont hav ethe patch in my x tree right now |
| 11:39:34 | ctr | is away: shower |
| 11:52:59 | ctr | is back (gone 00:13:24) |
| 13:20:03 | cuchar | and i am configuring postfix right now but i am stuck, can anyone help in an interactive sort of way? |
| 14:19:35 | RedBeard | Morning SpaceCoaster |
| 14:20:01 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: hi, how is your firewall doing? |
| 14:20:33 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: I've got the nic's up, and I've got iptables on it, I'm now working on configuration issues |
| 14:20:52 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: what are you working on? |
| 14:21:33 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: cool, I just got qpe compiled for the TuxScreen, most of the apps aren't applicable but it looks ok. |
| 14:22:11 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: cool |
| 14:22:41 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: did you read/enjoy the firewall docs? |
| 14:22:44 | RedBeard | I've used qpe on the Zaurus, it's alright |
| 14:23:15 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: currently working through two sets. I find I understand better if I have two different explinations of the same thing |
| 14:23:42 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: I understand, sortof point/counterpoint style. |
| 14:24:02 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: yup |
| 14:24:54 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: are you using a root-nfs system for qpe on the TuxScreen? |
| 14:25:55 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: nfs indeed, I have 64MB compact flash for installation. |
| 14:27:10 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: hmm, that read oddly. I use NFS for development and plan to deliver on Compact Flash. |
| 14:27:22 | RedBeard | *nod* that makes sense |
| 14:28:08 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: A question about the zaurus, they talk of it being Java enabled but all I see are QPE apps, what's that about? |
| 14:29:04 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: I thought I'd seen a few java apps, I know I've seen the demo apps |
| 14:29:44 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: well I've only seen a couple of screenshots, just wondered if Java really works on the Zaurus. |
| 14:30:20 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: here's a bunch of java apps for the Z - http://www.zauruszone.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3ca1c79e75a9ffff;act=SF;f=12 |
| 14:31:22 | SpaceCoaster | great, I didn't have any links to development stuff, except for QPE. |
| 14:31:28 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: I should take a look at them |
| 14:31:50 | RedBeard | there's zauruszone and there is the zaurus.sourceforge area |
| 14:32:07 | RedBeard | the sourceforge area is supposed to be more developer oriented, but seems mostly empty |
| 14:44:30 | eyezz | is away. Automatically set away [SZon] |
| 14:50:51 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: did you build qpe on uClibc with the new c++ support? |
| 14:52:44 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: no, i used just plain ole libc, thought about uClibc, what would be the pros/cons? |
| 14:55:56 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: uhmm, smaller? :) my goal is to run qtopia on the tuxscreen, but I'm still trying to figure out the best/easiest way to do it... |
| 14:57:26 | trebb | SpaceCoaste: I understand that qpe is huge anyway, so maybe the the size of the clib doesnt matter too much... |
| 14:58:33 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: did you use the familiear distro or something similar? (newbie alert) |
| 14:59:43 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: well, it too me ages to get it to compile, didn't realise it needed qt-2.3.2 (doh). I used the tuxscreen buildroot and mount just the qpe bits (and need libraries) over NFS. |
| 15:00:05 | SpaceCoaster | s/too/took/ |
| 15:05:42 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: ah, that is libqt and libqpe I guess? what about libstdc++? isn't that needed too? |
| 15:07:06 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: oh, and did you have to tweak the framebuffer part of qpe? sorry for hasseling... ;) |
| 15:08:48 | trebb | (is that a word 'hasseling'?) :) |
| 15:09:05 | sjhill | 'hassle' is correct |
| 15:09:36 | SpaceCoaster | no problem, I have libm, libc, libdl, libqte, libqpe, libcrypt and libnss_files not stdc++ |
| 15:09:47 | trebb | sjhill: thanx :) |
| 15:10:42 | SpaceCoaster | I had to set the QWS_SIZE environment variable to 640x480 and hack the code to stop it arranging things into three columns (amateurs!). |
| 15:12:12 | cpenguin_away | is back (gone 14:17:41) |
| 15:12:45 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: you're correct libqpe is 1.4M and libqte is 3.5M, libc is a bargain at 1.1M |
| 15:14:52 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: hm, sounds doable... uhmm, any hints where to start looking to hack the 3 columns prob.? |
| 15:18:37 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: look in taskbar/launcherview.cpp for setGridX(.../3) I changed it to setGridX(86), probably should be calculated from iconwidth . Occurs in two places. |
| 15:19:15 | prpplague_ | SpaceCoaster: got all your tux's ready? |
| 15:19:56 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: ah, cool, thanks! I guess that will keep me busy for a while :) |
| 15:20:03 | scanline | gives up trying to compile gcc with glibc support and just downloads uclibc |
| 15:20:31 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: good luck! |
| 15:21:21 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague_: morning |
| 15:22:47 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: thanks! Have to get my TrollTech contest entry out of the way before playing with the tuxscreen though... But thanks for pointing me in he right direction! |
| 15:23:58 | SpaceCoaster | trebb: glad of the company, maybe both of us are travelling the same way! |
| 15:27:44 | trebb | SpaceCoaster: Yeah, but it looks like you are way ahead. :) |
| 16:12:10 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 10 hours, 18 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: night [Wed Mar 27 05:54:09 2002] |
| 16:12:10 | scanline | ibot: seen andersee? |
| 16:34:12 | | sjm was last seen on #tuxscreen 10 hours, 39 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: bye [Wed Mar 27 05:54:19 2002] |
| 16:34:12 | TomW | ibot: seen sjm |
| 17:08:34 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzz.... |
| 18:02:24 | CosmicPenguin | The U.S. Embassy in Rome said there were "credible reports" of threats against Americans in Venice, Florence, Milan and Verona on Easter Sunday. |
| 18:02:34 | CosmicPenguin | will be in Venice in exactly 2 months |
| 18:03:11 | TomW | OW! Got your insurance paid up? |
| 18:03:50 | CosmicPenguin | Oddly, they didn't list Rome.... |
| 18:04:10 | TomW | bigger police force? |
| 18:04:46 | TomW | Or... they don't want to do anything to piss the Vatican off. |
| 18:07:04 | CosmicPenguin | Apparently, they got specific notices about certain cities |
| 18:14:26 | prpplague_ | are we having fun yet? |
| 18:14:54 | Aelhaz | yeah, I just got my pile of layoff documents via certified mail, I'm having lots of fun |
| 18:14:54 | TomW | at last, I have gotten nano-X to compile cleanly. |
| 18:15:19 | TomW | Aelhaz: where did you work? |
| 18:15:29 | Aelhaz | lineo |
| 18:15:40 | TomW | figures. |
| 18:15:57 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: ooh, certified... I think mine came regular mail |
| 18:16:41 | Aelhaz | i had to sign for it, twice |
| 18:16:52 | RedBeard | nope, mine has all the certified crap on it, but the postman just left it in the mail box |
| 18:16:59 | RedBeard | bad postman no biscuit |
| 18:17:32 | Aelhaz | certifiable |
| 18:17:48 | Aelhaz | call the usps and complain |
| 18:18:33 | RedBeard | *shrug* |
| 18:18:44 | RedBeard | I'll let it ride, and let Lineo wonder if the stuff ever made it |
| 18:20:09 | Aelhaz | so far the only interest i've seen in my resume online is pretty inappropriate |
| 18:20:17 | Aelhaz | like a mobile pinstriping franchise business |
| 18:20:48 | Aelhaz | that's outlawed in 12 states |
| 18:21:08 | RedBeard | that's not encouraging |
| 18:21:19 | RedBeard | probably spam |
| 18:21:27 | Aelhaz | "unlimited earning potential" and all that |
| 18:21:35 | Aelhaz | yeah, they contacted me through monster.com |
| 18:22:25 | RedBeard | ahh |
| 18:24:16 | Aelhaz | if anyone offers me an MLM in person I'll have a hard time resisting the urge to smack them around |
| 18:24:45 | SpaceCoaster | MLM? |
| 18:25:00 | Aelhaz | multi level marketing |
| 18:25:04 | Aelhaz | pyramid scam |
| 18:25:05 | RedBeard | "Target Pharmacy Guest" |
| 18:25:12 | Aelhaz | unusually popular form of business in utah |
| 18:25:21 | RedBeard | I thought of my self more as a customer |
| 18:25:24 | Aelhaz | think Big Planet, NuSkin . . |
| 18:25:34 | Aelhaz | AMWAY |
| 18:25:52 | Aelhaz | Primerica Financial |
| 18:25:53 | Aelhaz | etc |
| 18:26:03 | SpaceCoaster | yeah the Economist had an article about it, SLC has it's own SEC fraud division. |
| 18:26:54 | SpaceCoaster | seems people are too trusting, particulary of other LDS types. |
| 18:27:14 | sjhill | LDS - Learning Disability Suckers? |
| 18:27:52 | Aelhaz | primerica called me once. i got to waste 3 hours of some wanker's time before he got rid of me. |
| 18:28:54 | Aelhaz | two hours into his pitch he's insisting there's no sales involved |
| 18:29:09 | Aelhaz | "but, you're giving me a sales pitch *right *now" |
| 18:29:52 | Aelhaz | etc |
| 18:31:57 | RedBeard | Interesting thing here, I can xcompile thttpd with arm-linux-* tools, but if I try to use arm-uclibc-* tools I get an error from ld |
| 18:32:28 | Aelhaz | because a type definition in uclibc isn't up to the task, aparantly |
| 18:33:49 | RedBeard | um... |
| 18:34:04 | Aelhaz | arm-uclibc-gcc -O -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_GRP_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_PATHS_H=1 -DHAVE_POLL_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_POLL_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBCRYPT=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_WAITPID=1 -DHAVE_VSNPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_DAEMON=1 -DHAVE_SETSID=1 -DHAVE_GETADDRINFO=1 -DHAVE_GETNAMEINFO=1 -DHAVE_GAI_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_SELECT=1 -DHAVE_POLL=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_STORAGE=1 -D |
| 18:34:04 | Aelhaz | HAVE_SOCKADDR_IN6=1 -I. -c libhttpd.c |
| 18:34:04 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c: In function `ls': |
| 18:34:04 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:2522: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 18:34:06 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c: In function `httpd_start_request': |
| 18:34:08 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:3464: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 18:34:10 | Aelhaz | libhttpd.c:3467: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 18:34:12 | Aelhaz | make: *** [libhttpd.o] Error 1 |
| 18:34:19 | Aelhaz | "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" |
| 18:34:24 | RedBeard | no, that's not the error I'm getting |
| 18:34:29 | Aelhaz | what error are you getting? |
| 18:34:29 | RedBeard | syslog.o: In function `syslog': |
| 18:34:29 | RedBeard | syslog.o(.text+0x2cc): undefined reference to `__progname' |
| 18:34:29 | RedBeard | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 18:34:29 | RedBeard | make: *** [thttpd] Error 1 |
| 18:35:03 | RedBeard | I think it's the "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" |
| 18:35:09 | RedBeard | that is pertenant |
| 18:36:46 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: to fix the error you're seeing add "#include <time.h>" just above "#include <sys/time.h>" |
| 18:37:29 | RedBeard | it was jacques or prpplague that gave me that fix last night |
| 18:38:15 | RedBeard | al: make that addition to libhttpd.c |
| 18:38:36 | Aelhaz | oh, well, I don't know what your LD problem is then, 'cause that fixes thttpd here |
| 18:38:39 | Aelhaz | how did you configure it? |
| 18:39:11 | RedBeard | I edited the Makefile to use arm-uclibc-* |
| 18:39:39 | RedBeard | using the kernel Makefile as an example, but substituting arm-linux with arm-uclibc |
| 18:39:58 | RedBeard | I can build just fine with arm-linux- tools |
| 18:40:27 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: how did you configure for xcompile? |
| 18:40:38 | Aelhaz | ./configure --host=arm-linux |
| 18:40:49 | RedBeard | okay |
| 18:40:59 | Aelhaz | with CC=arm-uclibc-gcc and LD=arm-uclibc-ld as env variables, iirc |
| 18:40:59 | prpplague | RedBeard: think it was jacques |
| 18:41:00 | RedBeard | I'm making it too difficult |
| 18:41:12 | RedBeard | prpplague: okay |
| 18:41:40 | RedBeard | he then gave an explination of what he'd done to find the problem, it was very helpful to me |
| 18:43:14 | Aelhaz | so I've got a 68k thttpd binary now |
| 18:43:50 | Aelhaz | 4k larger than the boa binary, small price to pay for remote syslog capability |
| 18:43:57 | RedBeard | *nod* |
| 18:45:18 | Aelhaz | still bothered that i can't seem to get anywhere with even the dependencies for ssh daemons |
| 18:45:36 | sjhill | any MIPS assembly/MIPS PIC code experts around? |
| 19:11:38 | TomW | BZFlag: you join the channel and it goes quiet, why is that? |
| 19:19:22 | RedBeard | BZFlag! |
| 19:24:20 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: what do you get when you run "file thttpd" |
| 19:24:22 | RedBeard | ? |
| 19:44:25 | andersee | morning all |
| 19:44:54 | TomW | something like that.. |
| 19:45:21 | andersee | just woke up, so it must be morning somewhere |
| 19:48:59 | andersee | sjhill: progress? |
| 19:49:29 | sjhill | andersee: some |
| 19:49:50 | sjhill | hard way. */ |
| 19:49:50 | sjhill | #if defined(__mips__) |
| 19:49:50 | sjhill | argc = 0; |
| 19:49:50 | sjhill | while (*aux_dat++) |
| 19:49:50 | sjhill | argc++; |
| 19:49:52 | sjhill | aux_dat -= (argc + 1); |
| 19:49:54 | sjhill | #endif |
| 19:50:27 | sjhill | andersee: argc is always zero |
| 19:50:39 | sjhill | i have no idea why |
| 19:52:29 | sjhill | andersee: but, i can print out the command lines options and environment strings just fine now |
| 19:52:54 | BZFlag | TomW: everyone likes me? (or is that dislikes?) |
| 19:53:44 | BZFlag | andersee: /usr/arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find /lib/libc_nonshared.a |
| 19:53:47 | TomW | BZFlag: mmmm.. Dunno, just that you seemed to have a "chilling" effect. Similar to a Boss entering the workarea. |
| 19:54:05 | BZFlag | that's from the OZ busybox build. thoughts? |
| 19:54:15 | BZFlag | arm-linux-gcc -shared -L/home/timr/work/zaurus/buildroot-oz/root/lib -lresolv -o busybox ar.o ash.o basename.o cat.o chgrp.o chmod.o chown.o chroot.o chvt.o clear.o cmdedit.o cmp.o cp.o cpio.o cut.o date.o dc.o dd.o deallocvt.o df.o dirname.o dmesg.o dos2unix.o dpkg.o dpkg_deb.o du.o dutmp.o echo.o env.o expr.o fbset.o find.o free.o freeramdisk.o fsck_minix.o getopt.o grep.o gunzip.o gzip.o head.o hostid.o hostname.o id.o ifconfig.o kill.o kl |
| 19:54:15 | BZFlag | ogd.o length.o ln.o logger.o logname.o logread.o ls.o md5sum.o mkdir.o mkfifo.o mkfs_minix.o mknod.o mkswap.o mktemp.o more.o mount.o mv.o nc.o nfsmount.o nslookup.o pidof.o ping.o pivot_root.o printf.o ps.o pwd.o rdate.o readlink.o renice.o reset.o rm.o rmdir.o route.o sed.o sleep.o sort.o stty.o swaponoff.o sync.o syslogd.o tail.o tar.o tee.o telnet.o test.o tftp.o touch.o tr.o traceroute.o true_false.o tty.o umount.o uname.o uniq.o update. |
| 19:54:15 | BZFlag | o uptime.o usleep.o uudecode.o uuencode.o vi.o wc.o wget.o which.o whoami.o xargs.o yes.o busybox.o usage.o applets.o libbb.a |
| 19:54:32 | sjhill | oh you didn't just do that |
| 19:54:46 | BZFlag | spam? I guess I did |
| 19:55:34 | andersee | /lib/libc_nonshared.a is par of glibc |
| 19:55:40 | andersee | s/par/part/ |
| 19:56:04 | andersee | intends to create a uClibc_non_shared.a soon as well |
| 19:59:14 | BZFlag | hmm.. removing the -L fixes it. |
| 20:05:32 | andersee | sigh |
| 20:05:48 | andersee | oopses his kernel playing with firewire |
| 20:06:25 | andersee | reboots |
| 20:22:07 | Russ | what did you break? |
| 20:26:34 | andersee | me? I was going to burn a CD, but ieee1394 had moved my SCSI interfaces around, so I unplugged the ieee1394, and then sg oopsed on a cdrecord -scanbus |
| 21:23:29 | CosmicPenguin | are the severs being bad today? |
| 21:26:08 | jacques | hi all |
| 21:27:36 | jacques | anyone wanna see my fltk screenshots? |
| 21:28:13 | TomW | ok, dunno what an 'fltk' is anyway. |
| 21:28:36 | jacques | heh |
| 21:29:14 | jacques | it's a gui toolkit like gtk |
| 21:29:31 | jacques | but very portable - has windows version for example |
| 21:29:44 | jacques | it's also relatively small I think |
| 21:30:07 | prpplague_ | jacques: can i see your fltk screenshots? |
| 21:31:50 | jacques | http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa0.png http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa1.png http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/tuxa3.png |
| 21:32:22 | jacques | that's flwm and a couple of fltk test programs running |
| 21:36:07 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 9 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: me? I was going to burn a CD, but ieee1394 had moved my SCSI interfaces around, so I unplugged the ieee1394, and then sg oopsed on a cdrecord -scanbus [Wed Mar 27 20:26:34 2002] |
| 21:36:07 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 21:43:20 | andersee | jacques: hey |
| 21:43:26 | jacques | hi andersee |
| 21:43:34 | jacques | im having fun with your toolchain |
| 21:44:13 | andersee | :-) |
| 21:44:15 | jacques | i have fltk and flwm running on tux |
| 21:44:22 | andersee | very very cool! |
| 21:44:33 | jacques | yep |
| 21:44:56 | andersee | I need to get the 2.95.x toolchains working next |
| 21:45:13 | jacques | for things that dont build with gcc3 ? |
| 21:47:40 | TomW | um, maybe that is what is bugging me. I am using 2.95.3 here... |
| 21:55:06 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Just to clarify, Alex's microwin snapshot does not rquire a kernel patch if a recent kernel is used. I tried with 2.4.18-rmk2 last night and microwin/touchscreen work fine. |
| 21:57:06 | prpplague | jacques: fltk linked against uclibc? |
| 21:57:23 | jacques | prpplague: but of course |
| 21:57:33 | prpplague | jacques: mighty nice |
| 21:57:51 | prpplague | jacques: anyproblems or was it pretty straight forward? |
| 21:57:57 | jacques | everything in the screenshots is in the native flash of the tux |
| 21:58:07 | TomW | sjm: don't you mean 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 ? |
| 21:58:31 | sjm | TomW: yep |
| 21:58:42 | jacques | prpplague: with the new toolchain it was very straight-forward |
| 21:58:50 | prpplague | jacques:cool |
| 21:58:55 | prpplague | jacques: bbiaf |
| 21:59:31 | sjm | jacques: Nice checkers game. Does the touchscreen work okay? |
| 22:00:10 | jacques | sjm: no, the touchscreen is not working - I need to try the patch on the wiki again, but that does not even have calibration |
| 22:00:19 | TomW | sjm: I had two changes to Alex's snapshot before it would compile: changed order of libraries in Makefile.rules (-lmwdrivers) and the config file (of course). |
| 22:00:55 | jacques | sjm: the checkers game is a test program that comes with fltk |
| 22:01:10 | TomW | nano-X still doesn't run.. :-/ |
| 22:01:32 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Ok, thanks for the update |
| 22:01:54 | sjm | jacques: okay. I might have get stuck into that... it looks fun :) |
| 22:02:14 | TomW | is away: meeting |
| 22:03:09 | jacques | the computer always beats me |
| 22:03:52 | sjm | jacques: How do you move without a touchscreen? |
| 22:04:41 | jacques | sjm: oh heh i was also running it on my desktop |
| 22:06:19 | jacques | i also built agendaroids and that was fun to play - it only uses keybord so I can play it on the tux |
| 23:07:16 | mallum | jacques_gone: screenshots ...? |
| 23:27:37 | jacques | it's quiet here today |
