| 00:17:04 | RedBeard | anyone want to proof read some tuxscreen documentation? |
| 00:17:09 | RedBeard | http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard/tuxscreen-5v-pcmcia-hack/index.html |
| 00:17:22 | scanline | is away: mashed potatoes, tobasco sauce, and rice... or another great Dorm Food Combo |
| 00:17:43 | RedBeard | I think I've got it right there, please give me feed back |
| 00:19:33 | prpplague | RedBeard: i'll be doing the 5v hack this weekend and so far it looks good(your doc that is) |
| 00:20:20 | RedBeard | prpplague: I have low confidence that I've got the wires in the right place, but that's what it looks like I should have done from what's on the wiki |
| 00:20:52 | RedBeard | but since I was removing 3.3v and making it 5v only... |
| 00:20:55 | RedBeard | *shrug* |
| 00:21:11 | RedBeard | prpplague: thanks for taking a look |
| 00:21:42 | prpplague | RedBeard: i've book marked and will double check this weekend |
| 00:22:28 | prpplague | RedBeard: nice bag pipes |
| 00:24:29 | prpplague | RedBeard: so i guess you were series about parting ways with lineo? |
| 00:24:58 | RedBeard | prpplague: they were serious about parting ways with me |
| 00:25:19 | prpplague | lol |
| 00:25:27 | RedBeard | they laid off about 58% of their employees on Monday, I was just one of the lot |
| 00:25:45 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya thats what i was reading on /. and linuxdevices.com |
| 00:26:03 | RedBeard | yup |
| 00:26:20 | jacques | :-( |
| 00:26:40 | prpplague | bummer |
| 00:26:51 | prpplague | jacques: what you get the axe too? |
| 00:27:10 | jacques | prpplague: no I am just sad for the lineo ppl |
| 00:27:21 | prpplague | jacques: ahh |
| 00:27:23 | RedBeard | *shrug* we all saw it comming |
| 00:27:29 | prpplague | RedBeard: what about Alhaz? |
| 00:27:39 | jacques | and I'm sad that lineo had to do it |
| 00:27:54 | prpplague | RedBeard: and bZflag? |
| 00:28:14 | RedBeard | prpplague: alhaz got it too. BZFlag is still there |
| 00:28:51 | prpplague | hmm, wonder if i can get some cheap consulting work out of this? |
| 00:29:07 | RedBeard | prpplague: you probably can |
| 00:29:59 | prpplague | RedBeard: so whats the market look like for you guys there in SLC area? |
| 00:30:37 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: howdy howdy |
| 00:30:48 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: haven't seen you around in a while |
| 00:30:51 | | i think SpaceCoaster is a cool dude and managed to get the touchscreen playing fair or not for small children, as they might cut themselves |
| 00:30:51 | prpplague | ibot1: SpaceCoaster |
| 00:30:57 | | SpaceCoaster was last seen on #tuxscreen 22 days, 2 hours, 44 minutes and 50 seconds ago, saying: prpplague: nope, before my time [Wed Feb 27 21:46:07 2002] |
| 00:30:57 | prpplague | ibot1: seen SpaceCoaster |
| 00:31:13 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: wow, ancient history! |
| 00:32:01 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: had any good beer lately? |
| 00:32:10 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: we were beginning to wonder if you were still alive..... |
| 00:32:21 | jacques | wow can it really be... ? |
| 00:32:33 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: not thing new, but i did get some good sam adams summer ale at the airport this week |
| 00:33:27 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: I had some stuff, Sierra something, very strong, nice too. |
| 00:35:48 | | hmmm... Morn is starting to do a lot of work in java again and I'd like to use it on the iPAQ instead of learning a whole new API |
| 00:35:48 | Morn | ibot1: Morn |
| 00:35:58 | | i think jacques is a crazy finn |
| 00:35:58 | jacques | ibot1: jacques |
| 00:36:00 | Morn | ah |
| 00:36:04 | jacques | hmg |
| 00:36:43 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: ya sierra nevada makes some nice stuff, they have a pale ale, stout and a porter |
| 00:36:48 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: all very nice |
| 00:37:32 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: sierra nevada, that's the stuff |
| 00:38:21 | prpplague | Aelhaz: sorry to hear about your parting of ways with lineo |
| 00:38:25 | RedBeard | where is Sierra Nevada located? |
| 00:39:03 | prpplague | RedBeard: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBrewer.asp?BrewerID=67 |
| 00:39:32 | RedBeard | okay, I've added my 5v hack page to the wiki |
| 00:39:50 | prpplague | RedBeard: have you performed the "smoke test" yet? |
| 00:39:53 | RedBeard | I've a dead beat BiL in Chico |
| 00:40:01 | RedBeard | prpplague: no |
| 00:40:07 | prpplague | RedBeard: remember, once you've let the magic smoke out, it doesn't work anymore |
| 00:40:34 | RedBeard | yeah, that's why I'd like someone that's done this and knows what they're doing to look and verify I've got it right. |
| 00:40:38 | Aelhaz | prpplague: thanks, know anyone who needs a geek, slightly used? |
| 00:41:03 | RedBeard | I'll add appropriate cautions to my page, untill I've got it verified |
| 00:41:31 | prpplague | Aelhaz: you do uclinux for cheap? |
| 00:42:03 | Aelhaz | prpplague: in what sense? |
| 00:42:14 | Aelhaz | <-- noncoder, otherwise highly competent |
| 00:43:23 | prpplague | Aelhaz: ahh, got a couple of hardware items that need uclinux implmented |
| 00:44:29 | Aelhaz | oh, well, there are probably people lineo let go who would be able to fill that need |
| 00:45:59 | prpplague | Aelhaz: ohh well, hope you find something soon |
| 00:46:09 | Aelhaz | me too. |
| 00:46:18 | Aelhaz | to be honest, i don't think i have a snowcone's chance in hell. |
| 00:46:19 | prpplague | RedBeard: what about you? you do uclinux? |
| 00:46:33 | prpplague | Aelhaz: you gonna try to move? |
| 00:47:15 | Aelhaz | prpplague: dunno |
| 00:47:37 | scanline | is back (gone 00:30:15) |
| 00:48:40 | Aelhaz | prpplague: if i don't find something in the next month or two, I can't afford the place I'm living in. Might mean i move into my parents basement or something. dunno. |
| 00:48:59 | RedBeard | prpplague: no, I might code a little better than Alhaz, but, not well enough for that task |
| 00:50:26 | scanline | is away: gone to digital lab for a few hours |
| 00:51:05 | prpplague | RedBeard: bummer |
| 00:51:45 | prpplague | guess you guys are just going to have to start running a pr0n server |
| 00:56:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what are up to these days? |
| 00:57:54 | RedBeard | prpplague: I'd hate to think how difficult that would be in Utah ;) |
| 00:58:04 | prpplague | RedBeard: lol |
| 00:58:12 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: i had an idea, tho |
| 00:58:20 | RedBeard | al: yeah? |
| 00:58:26 | prpplague | do tell |
| 00:58:29 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: could set up a hacked httpd that never actually lets anyone finish loading porn images |
| 00:58:42 | prpplague | lol |
| 00:58:50 | Aelhaz | let 'em get about an inch of scenery, top of someone's head, a foot, whatever, and then have the server stall indefinately |
| 00:59:11 | Aelhaz | when people complain, apologize profusely and tell 'em to try back during non-prime hours |
| 00:59:20 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: hehe, that'd be about right for here. call it Uthtpd |
| 00:59:24 | prpplague | Aelhaz: ya and everytime they try the dl, you get another $.05 banner add? |
| 00:59:47 | Aelhaz | prpplague: plus you could con people into paying for access |
| 01:00:10 | Aelhaz | sorta like that porn video company in australia |
| 01:00:25 | prpplague | hmm, i wonder who at lineo did the net+uclinux stuff |
| 01:00:32 | Aelhaz | took a bunch of orders, then apologized for not understanding that their product was illegal |
| 01:00:36 | prpplague | andersee: you know about the net+uclinux stuff? |
| 01:01:02 | Aelhaz | sent everyone refund checks, drawn on an account under the name of "The Anal Sex and Fetish Perversion Video Service" or somesuch |
| 01:01:15 | RedBeard | prpplague: it was either andersee or Matt Wadel |
| 01:01:20 | Aelhaz | very few people cashed the refund checks :) |
| 01:01:31 | RedBeard | at least those are the two people that come to mind |
| 01:02:28 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: hahaha, I didn't hear about that one |
| 01:03:32 | SpaceCoaster | Anyone want to try DCCing me a file, i've just setup iptables and want to test it. |
| 01:03:41 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: iirc, the govt. also was unable to collect enough complaints to start a fraud case against them |
| 01:04:07 | Aelhaz | nobody wanted to step forward and say "Yes, I'm upset that they misrepresented their ability to sell me illegal pornography" |
| 01:04:23 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: not me, i've firewall handicapped myself |
| 01:04:31 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: heh, go figure |
| 01:04:37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wow... busy |
| 01:05:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats that? |
| 01:05:44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've be out of the office since monday, so i've got irc withdrawal |
| 01:06:03 | CosmicPenguin | You need to catch up on all of the happenings, then.... |
| 01:06:18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: do tell |
| 01:06:20 | SpaceCoaster | CosmicPenguin: hi, happenings? Tell us more... |
| 01:06:41 | CosmicPenguin | The new uclibc is out... thats a happening |
| 01:07:25 | CosmicPenguin | The son of SSSCA came out today, thats an evil happening |
| 01:07:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya saw the annoucement on linuxdevices.com earlier |
| 01:07:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, yes i've got to call my senator tomorrow |
| 01:07:53 | SpaceCoaster | CosmicPenguin: Did the input stuff for the touchscreen ever stabilize? |
| 01:08:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got my maxim ic samples in monday, i might get time this weekend to do some prototyping |
| 01:11:14 | CosmicPenguin | SpaceCoaster: I'm not sure what RMKs thoughts are on that |
| 01:11:20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: cool... :) |
| 01:11:45 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 6 hours, 4 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Thu Mar 21 19:07:39 2002] |
| 01:11:45 | RedBeard | ibot1: seen andersee |
| 01:12:41 | CosmicPenguin | and now that I finally can read more than 3 bytes a minute across this IR, I am going hom |
| 01:12:44 | CosmicPenguin | home even |
| 01:12:51 | prpplague | lol |
| 01:13:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey how is the STB dev going? |
| 01:13:09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good |
| 01:13:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i sure hope i can get some of those |
| 01:13:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: waaassssabbbbiiii |
| 01:13:44 | CosmicPenguin | Did Troy call you back yet? |
| 01:14:09 | CosmicPenguin | oh, well.... basketball awaits |
| 01:14:14 | CosmicPenguin | talk to you all later? |
| 01:14:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i talked to him, he said all of the dev units were spoken for already, he said he wished that they'd produced more |
| 01:14:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: later |
| 01:14:23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: doh! |
| 01:14:30 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Basketball... go Duke! |
| 01:14:39 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: a new toy? |
| 01:14:54 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: nice webpad for cheap |
| 01:15:09 | SpaceCoaster | where, what, who? |
| 01:16:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: won't be available for another 90 days at the earliest, but looks pretty nice |
| 01:16:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: let me see if i got the url |
| 01:17:18 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: oops, those were meant for you |
| 01:17:37 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: I guessed |
| 01:20:24 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: can't find the url right now, i'll have to get it from CosmicPenguin again |
| 01:21:12 | prpplague | argh, i'm ready to go home, but i have to wait to work on a SCO box |
| 01:21:31 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: no worries, thanks for looking, got to finish my TuxScreen xmas presents (doh) before I can buy any more hardware. |
| 01:21:44 | prpplague | lol |
| 01:21:56 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: so where ya been lately? |
| 01:22:48 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: it's true, got a bit distracted. Just been noodling about, hacking Java and stuff. |
| 01:22:59 | newhak | yo got any tux pics |
| 01:23:32 | SpaceCoaster | newhak: no pr0n here! |
| 01:24:01 | newhak | not that.. just of the pinguine |
| 01:25:56 | prpplague | newhak: http://www.tangent.co.za/tux.html |
| 01:26:32 | prpplague | newhak: http://www.angelfire.com/pe/penguindance/ |
| 01:28:25 | prpplague | newhak: somethine we can help ya with? |
| 01:28:54 | newhak | not realy... just in |
| 01:31:49 | | Tangent was last seen on #intimate 54 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: jacques : Why do you ask? [Fri Mar 22 00:37:06 2002] |
| 01:31:49 | prpplague | ibot1: seen Tangent |
| 01:32:41 | prpplague | that was odd |
| 01:37:13 | prpplague | BZFlag: howdy there |
| 01:37:34 | prpplague | BZFlag: heard you survived the axe..... |
| 01:38:03 | RedBeard | BZFlag: have you done the 5v hack? |
| 01:38:28 | RedBeard | gee, he's a popular guy |
| 01:39:24 | prpplague | RedBeard: lol |
| 01:41:12 | prpplague | Sammy: knee how |
| 01:41:15 | BZFlag | prpplague: yeah, now I'm under the large load instead. |
| 01:41:27 | BZFlag | RedBeard: nope. andersee did, but I have not. |
| 01:41:47 | RedBeard | BZFlag: thanks |
| 01:46:27 | prpplague | BZFlag: you know who at lineo worked on the net+uclinux stuff for netsilicon? |
| 01:56:34 | BZFlag | prpplague: nope. I heard it mentioned, but I don't knw who is doing it. |
| 02:05:02 | Sammy | hello prpplague and BZFlag ... |
| 02:05:44 | Sammy | and RedBeard :) |
| 02:10:44 | prpplague | BZFlag: i've got a net+arm product running windriver stuff i'd sure like to get linux on |
| 02:12:09 | BZFlag | every littel bit helps. |
| 02:12:13 | BZFlag | er little |
| 02:19:26 | andersee | RedBeard: saw your 5V pic -- did you remember to remove the resistor R338? Doesn't look like it... |
| 02:19:31 | andersee | is back (gone 07:11:52) |
| 02:19:59 | RedBeard | andersee: yeah, one on each side R337 and R338, the text says to remove them |
| 02:20:21 | RedBeard | andersee: thanks for looking at my doc. Asside from the resistors, does it look good to you? |
| 02:22:42 | andersee | You may want to annotate your 5V pic ts_workarea-done-lg.jpg to make it clear that the resistors were removed |
| 02:23:02 | jacques | doesn't bug andersee (for once). |
| 02:23:06 | andersee | A few minutes with the gimp |
| 02:23:27 | RedBeard | andersee: yeah, the gimp is my friend |
| 02:23:41 | RedBeard | I thought about doing that, I'll fix it tonight |
| 02:23:43 | RedBeard | thanks again |
| 02:24:11 | RedBeard | andersee: btw, how did you remove those resistors when you did it? |
| 02:24:22 | andersee | Looks ok to me. May want to double check with GPSFan |
| 02:24:51 | RedBeard | andersee: I'll do that next time I see him |
| 02:24:58 | andersee | RedBeard: I used a soldering iron in one hand to heat them, and an exacto knife in the other hand to scrape it off |
| 02:25:23 | RedBeard | andersee: okay, that's about what I did |
| 02:36:29 | prpplague | later guys |
| 02:36:33 | prpplague | time to head home |
| 02:36:41 | RedBeard | prpplague: ciao |
| 02:44:07 | RedBeard | GPSFan: could you take a look at my 5v pcmcia how to? |
| 02:44:09 | RedBeard | http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard/tuxscreen-5v-pcmcia-hack/index.html |
| 02:49:00 | GPSFan | RedBeard: sure, been real busy, sorry I missed your earlier message...looking |
| 02:49:21 | RedBeard | GPSFan: np, thanks for looking |
| 02:51:25 | RedBeard | once I know I've got the basics correct, I'll flesh it out, with more details |
| 02:53:13 | GPSFan | RedBeard: that looks just like the mod I did to my tuxscreen, the hack on the wiki evolved from the original Lucent 5V mod, which turned out to be much too complicated. Many pepople wanted to be able to revert to 3.3V PCMCIA operation, so I left in the diode. However when I went to really build mine I just hardwired the slots to 5V. I never got around to re-doing the doc's on the wiki |
| 02:53:38 | GPSFan | RedBeard: what you have is correct and should work without problems. |
| 02:53:53 | RedBeard | GPSFan: cool, I've added a link to the wiki to point to my docs |
| 02:53:57 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: well, 16 bit pcmcia cards that are not 5v tolerant are pretty hard to find |
| 02:54:01 | RedBeard | I'll continue to flesh them out |
| 02:54:12 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: and nearly all of them are keyed for cardbus slots |
| 02:54:22 | GPSFan | RedBeard: you might want to add my software mod which gets rid of the dreaded "BAD VCC" message. |
| 02:54:29 | RedBeard | GPSFan: thanks for looking it over |
| 02:54:49 | andersee | RedBeard: For my 5V hack, I added a switch to allow me to revet to 3V if I want to (though I never have) |
| 02:54:52 | RedBeard | GPSFan: sure, I'll incorporate that, and credit you for the whole idea, direction etc. |
| 02:55:09 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: I have a Proxim 802.11b card which is 3.3V only, and properly keyed. |
| 02:55:17 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: Me too |
| 02:55:22 | RedBeard | andersee: yeah, I saw the swithc and thought about adding it, but decided I'd add it when I found a need to |
| 02:55:32 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: my other 3.3v cards are 5v tolerant |
| 02:55:46 | RedBeard | andersee: I'll make note that it can be done, and point to your images |
| 02:56:22 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: the proxim card mops the floor with my linksys 802.11b card . . |
| 02:56:39 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: the Proxim is the only 3.3V card I have, I haven't gotten around to putting it in my Tux yet, don't have an access point to talk to yet either. ;>) |
| 02:57:17 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: I added an SMA connector in place of the wierd one that's under the rubber plug. |
| 02:57:50 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: cool |
| 02:58:07 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: if i didn't have a linksys ap that works pretty well, I'd be working on turning a tux into an ap |
| 02:58:14 | Aelhaz | but, my linksys ap works pretty well :) |
| 02:58:45 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: hmm, perhaps that's what I'll do with my other tux |
| 02:58:53 | RedBeard | once I get re-employeed |
| 02:59:01 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: I took it apart, and it looks like that connector has an internal switch to disconnect one of the antennas when the connector is in use. |
| 02:59:13 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: *nod* |
| 02:59:34 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: I keep looking at the open-ap stuff and thinking tha a Tux would be the perfec platform, cheap too. |
| 02:59:37 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: by then, someone may have figured out how to make it work |
| 03:00:25 | RedBeard | al: so the proxim cards aren't working on the Tux yet? |
| 03:00:43 | Aelhaz | GPSFan: I heard somewhere that linux-wlan-ng is the only driver for the prism2 that supports automatic retransmission or somethingorother, which supposedly makes it work better |
| 03:00:57 | Aelhaz | RedBeard: I haven't seen anyone come in here and say they have a tux working on a wireless lan |
| 03:01:18 | GPSFan | RedBeard: heard about the bad happenings at Lineo, real sorry.... ;>( |
| 03:01:38 | jacques | hmmm, is there a problem getting wireless working |
| 03:01:39 | jacques | ? |
| 03:01:46 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: well, I've got to get the firewall tux up, and get re-employed before I'll be able to look at it |
| 03:01:48 | jacques | I figured a supported prism2 card would work |
| 03:01:49 | RedBeard | GPSFan: thanks |
| 03:02:18 | Aelhaz | jacques: me too, but nobody has claimed to have it working |
| 03:02:29 | jacques | hmg |
| 03:02:31 | Aelhaz | jacques: the issues are software related |
| 03:02:43 | jacques | that's slightly disturbing :-\ |
| 03:02:47 | Aelhaz | and should be fixable, since people have ipaqs and larts and whatnot using wireless |
| 03:02:55 | Aelhaz | but so far I haven't heard a report of a working setup |
| 03:04:03 | GPSFan | Aelhaz: I thought that I read that sombody had gotten an 802.11b carrd going on the tux, what i'm concerned about is having the wireless ane an ethernet NIC in at the same time. |
| 03:04:03 | SpaceCoaster | Aelhaz: hmm, sounds like a challenge. I've got an Orinoco card but no access point. |
| 03:04:14 | jacques | Aelhaz: does the driver just not work right? any info on the problem? |
| 03:04:32 | GPSFan | hey SpaceCoaster: how's NH? is it spring yet? |
| 03:04:44 | jacques | should be possible with wireless on bottom |
| 03:04:55 | Aelhaz | jacques: I don't have much info, I haven't worked on it because my apt. is heavily wired |
| 03:04:58 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: 8 inches of snow yesterday so maybe not. |
| 03:05:07 | Aelhaz | jacques: i only use wireless for portable devices |
| 03:05:53 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: oooh, I wish we had that here, it was in the upper 60's today and we are about 40% of our normal precip for this year. ;>(( |
| 03:05:59 | jacques | Aelhaz: yeah me too but I also bought prism2 cards for my tuxes - havent tried them except to stick them in ans see them recognized by cardmgs |
| 03:06:34 | jacques | they were on sale :-) |
| 03:06:57 | | how much is probably the euro |
| 03:06:57 | andersee | jacques: how much? |
| 03:07:28 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: same here, not much snow |
| 03:08:26 | jacques | andersee: the netgear prism2 cards were $79 at fry's when I got them - I know I can get better online |
| 03:08:43 | jacques | not like the proxim deal at justdeals |
| 03:08:52 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: might be planning on moving north for the summer, though I'm running out of space in the US. |
| 03:09:32 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: move to Colorado, lots of space here, not much in the way of jobs though. |
| 03:10:40 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: same here, I might move back to Edinburgh, our old clients miss us. |
| 03:10:49 | GPSFan | jacques: do youknow anything about the Bromax access points that justdeals has for $99? |
| 03:11:24 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: Scotland might be a nice alternative, lots of good Scotch & beer. |
| 03:11:26 | jacques | GPSFan: no, sounds interesting tho |
| 03:12:08 | jacques | must... have ... appetizer |
| 03:12:09 | GPSFan | jacques: I can't find anything about it anywhere, even the FCC web site doesn't list that model. |
| 03:12:37 | one_winge | hey |
| 03:12:52 | one_winge | ho needs final fantasy help |
| 03:13:07 | jacques | ho? who's a ho? |
| 03:13:14 | | jacques: wish i knew |
| 03:13:14 | jacques | ibot: ho? |
| 03:13:35 | RedBeard | wouldn't mind spending an extended time in Scotland |
| 03:13:35 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: my wife loves Scotland (she is the american) and I persuaded her to leave...ho hum. |
| 03:17:39 | GPSFan | RedBeard: when you edited the wiki page on 5V PCMCIA, did you change the line wrap? it now extends beyond the edges of my screen. |
| 03:18:12 | GPSFan | RedBeard: I don't remember if it did that before or not?? ;>) |
| 03:18:48 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: looks ok here. |
| 03:20:19 | RedBeard | GPSFan: it's done that as long as I've known of the page |
| 03:20:40 | RedBeard | I think if you resize your image at the bottom it'll quit |
| 03:20:58 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: hmm, must be on my end, Win98 IE, and only 1024 x 768, I probably forgot what it looked like.. ;>P |
| 03:21:36 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: maybe not, I don't see any picture, just ignore me |
| 03:21:36 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: you're a Scot? |
| 03:22:39 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: No, but I lived in Edinburgh before the US. |
| 03:22:50 | RedBeard | ahh |
| 03:23:04 | RedBeard | is an admitted anglophile |
| 03:23:23 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: I'm from Essex in England. Just east of London. |
| 03:23:24 | GPSFan | jacques: this seems to imply that 802.11 works... http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/TUXPAD/tuxpad.html |
| 03:23:44 | Aelhaz | opera 5 did some bad things to wiki pages last time i used it to edit one |
| 03:24:06 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: *nod* |
| 03:25:12 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: are you in sunny Utah, my wife has family in Utah/Idaho. |
| 03:25:59 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: yup |
| 03:26:16 | RedBeard | and we've been having lots of sun the last few days :) |
| 03:26:42 | RedBeard | I've got to pipe my kids to sleep... bbl |
| 03:41:31 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: where about in Ut/Id is your wife's family? |
| 03:43:12 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: errr, Pocatello ID and Idaho Falls and not sure where in Utah. Had a great summer vacation last year at Bear Lake. |
| 03:44:18 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: ahh, southern ID, so probably northern UT, I've relatives up that way |
| 03:44:29 | RedBeard | Bear Lake is a nice place |
| 03:44:38 | RedBeard | it's not so hot up there, and there are trees |
| 03:44:51 | RedBeard | grew up in the Seattle area |
| 03:44:58 | RedBeard | this desert stuff gets me down some times |
| 03:49:19 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: Seattle is green, isn't it? |
| 03:51:17 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: yes, Seattle weather is very similar to that of the UK |
| 03:51:37 | RedBeard | with the lovely greens that go with that much rain |
| 03:54:09 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: indeed, I moved to New Hampshire and I find it astonishing that sometimes it doesn't rain for months. |
| 03:54:24 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: hehe |
| 03:54:40 | RedBeard | is the moss behind your ears drying out? ;) |
| 03:55:13 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: Scottish rain falls horizontally, it has to be seen. |
| 03:56:22 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: that stuff is nasty, you get wet no matter what you wear, it always finds a way in |
| 03:57:43 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: it isn't the wetness that's the problem, more the velocity. |
| 03:58:05 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: we called it rain with daggers in it. |
| 03:58:25 | RedBeard | has ridden his motorcycle in heavy down pour |
| 03:58:34 | RedBeard | I know what you're talking about |
| 03:59:15 | SpaceCoaster | So, what are you upto in the land of the TuxScreen? |
| 03:59:43 | RedBeard | I've got a couple of them, my first effort is to make one of them into a firewall |
| 04:00:10 | RedBeard | today I've been working on additional documentation for the 5v pcmcia hack |
| 04:00:21 | SpaceCoaster | Hmm, just been playing with iptables myself, nice stuff much easier than what went before. |
| 04:00:23 | RedBeard | how about you? |
| 04:01:00 | RedBeard | I haven't done much with iptables yet, I've used ipchains, and found it better than it's predecessor |
| 04:02:56 | SpaceCoaster | Well iptables is a dream, the docs at http://netfilter.samba.org/ are good and the HOWTOS are very well written. |
| 04:03:42 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: wow, I'm looking forward to working with it. the Iptables docs weren't what they could have been |
| 04:04:02 | SpaceCoaster | s/iptables/ipchains/ ? |
| 04:05:37 | RedBeard | yeah, sorry |
| 04:05:49 | scanline | is back (gone 03:15:23) |
| 04:06:19 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzZzzzzzzzz |
| 04:10:40 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: going away now, thanks for the chat, catch ya later... |
| 04:30:43 | RedBeard | time to go |
| 06:42:26 | andersee | jacques: I found the source of your linking problems with XFree86 |
| 06:42:36 | andersee | jacques: I'm working on a fix right now |
| 06:43:50 | jacques | andersee: WHOO!! |
| 06:44:12 | jacques | andersee: what are you doing working on that? there are ctype issues in the c++ toolchain! |
| 06:44:15 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:46:32 | andersee | jacques: heh |
| 06:46:42 | andersee | jacques: It really does need fixing first |
| 06:47:27 | jacques | andersee: well, I suppose you are competent to decide your own priorities |
| 06:47:47 | andersee | jacques: Should have something for you to test in a couple of minute |
| 06:47:53 | jacques | whooo |
| 06:47:55 | jacques | :-) |
| 07:25:03 | andersee | jacques: ok, I just committed the fix to CVS. Have you rebuilt buildroot-tux vs uClibc 0.9.10 yet? |
| 07:25:39 | andersee | jacques: If so, just 'cd uClibc && cvs up', then 'rm -rf build/staging_dir' then 'make' |
| 07:26:16 | andersee | With that, XFree86 should no longer need manual intervention to link. |
| 07:37:50 | LoneTech | sighs |
| 07:38:17 | LoneTech | Schenker Stinnes Logistics are completely unaware of the existence of the package containing my tuxscreens, apparently. |
| 07:41:02 | jacques | andersee: OK I'll do that now |
| 07:44:06 | jacques | heh hadnt chackde out 0.9.10 buildroot on work machine yet |
| 07:47:25 | jacques | LoneTech: dd you get them? |
| 07:48:11 | LoneTech | no |
| 07:48:41 | LoneTech | the shipping company sent me a letter stating I had to pay moms (a kind of sales tax), and what shipping # the package has.. |
| 07:49:04 | LoneTech | I checked their website, and called them back.. they don't know of any package with that number. |
| 07:51:11 | jacques | hmm. I am sorry to hear that. |
| 08:15:36 | LoneTech | they found it |
| 08:15:45 | LoneTech | the # sent to me was wrong |
| 08:15:51 | LoneTech | I'll get it on monday. |
| 08:16:03 | jacques | :-) |
| 08:16:16 | LoneTech | next problem will naturally be powering them up |
| 08:23:34 | andersee | BZFlag: how does := speed things up? |
| 08:23:55 | andersee | inquiring minds want to know |
| 08:42:03 | andersee | read the make info page on "The Two Flavors of Variables" |
| 09:20:46 | BZFlag | andersee: just forces precomputation. |
| 09:21:10 | BZFlag | not avoiding much in this case, just some redundant string copies |
| 09:23:17 | BZFlag | forward references would not be handled from what I can tell, but I didn't see any anyway |
| 09:28:37 | BZFlag | adds some comments |
| 15:11:21 | prpplague | morning all |
| 16:08:11 | prpplague | holy cow, SpaceCoaster two days in a row! |
| 16:24:30 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: hi ya |
| 16:25:06 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: got to ship these tuxscreens for xmas |
| 16:52:27 | RedBeard | SpaceCoaster: it was nice to chat with you last night |
| 16:55:25 | SpaceCoaster | RedBeard: morning |
| 18:23:15 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 18:27:33 | CosmicPenguin | as_: people aren't being rude, its just dead as the tomb today... :) |
| 18:27:47 | as_ | I gathered that. Worry not ;] |
| 18:44:12 | Aelhaz | hi as |
| 18:44:24 | scanline | is back (gone 14:38:06) |
| 18:44:31 | as_ | Aelhaz :] |
| 18:44:45 | as_ | I have to bbl, this program wont work while I'm online. |
| 18:44:51 | Aelhaz | ok |
| 20:53:31 | prpplague_ | man its quite today |
| 20:55:34 | mallum_ | !!!!!! NOT ANY MORE !!!!!!!! |
| 20:57:36 | scanline | makes an arbitrarily annoying loud noise |
| 20:57:50 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:57:58 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:57:59 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:57:59 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:57:59 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:58:00 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:58:02 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:58:02 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:58:03 | mallum_ | I know a song that will get on your nervers, get on your nerves, get on your nervers ...... |
| 20:58:05 | mallum_ | and so on |
| 20:58:05 | scanline | thinks up something to break the quietness.... |
| 20:58:15 | scanline | Hey guys, i got windows 95 running on my tuxscreen! |
| 20:58:39 | mallum_ | damn I could only get 3.1 to boot |
| 21:02:23 | scanline | gets his dreamcast broadband adaptor today.. yay! |
| 21:05:20 | mallum_ | scanline: did you pay big bucks for it ? |
| 21:05:33 | scanline | about $130 on ebay.. so more than the dreamcast cost |
| 21:05:39 | mallum_ | scanline: ouch |
| 21:05:48 | scanline | yeah.. but it should be worth it |
| 21:05:59 | scanline | cost of the whole thing is still cheap for all the hardware you get |
| 21:06:11 | Aelhaz | scanline: I'm waiting for that guy to finalize his board design for the board that plugs in where the BBA does and provides ide & pcmcia |
| 21:06:37 | scanline | ooh.. that sounds cool |
| 21:06:49 | Aelhaz | I've seen pictures of a few prototypes |
| 21:07:01 | Aelhaz | and a really old, incomplete schematic |
| 21:07:08 | Aelhaz | the guy's a bsd hacker |
| 21:07:29 | Aelhaz | but i think it'd be significantly more useful than just the bba |
| 21:07:41 | Aelhaz | anyway, bbl |
| 21:07:41 | scanline | yes |
| 21:07:43 | scanline | bye |
| 22:10:20 | prpplague___ | howdy there markl |
| 22:11:21 | scanline | watches tumbleweeds go by.. |
| 22:11:38 | CosmicPenguin | markl: thanks for the beer.. :) |
| 22:12:36 | markl | any time. what did you end up drinking, mcewans? |
| 22:13:41 | CosmicPenguin | No, the cream stout.... |
| 22:14:03 | markl | yum |
| 22:15:17 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=162 |
| 22:17:08 | CosmicPenguin | Looks like many people didn't like the McEwans: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=879 |
| 22:17:51 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, they dumped on my favorite beers too, so what are you going to do? |
| 22:32:39 | prpplague___ | says hmmm cream stout |
| 22:39:29 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, my old company has taken a real stock hit lately.... |
| 22:39:36 | CosmicPenguin | is glad he jumped that sinking ship |
| 22:52:32 | CosmicPenguin | If today was moving any slower, it would be moving backwards |
| 23:06:50 | RedBeard | wishes he'd jumped sooner... |
| 23:07:01 | RedBeard | er... jupmed, instead of being pushed |
| 23:09:13 | prpplague | sar -d /dev/today |
| 23:09:19 | prpplague | -00:01 |
| 23:09:23 | prpplague | -00:02 |
| 23:09:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: kinda like that? |
| 23:34:31 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm... this xine plugin doesn't handle DVDs as well as the original, but it does do menu support |
| 23:39:16 | CosmicPenguin | kewl - it killed my system |
| 23:55:23 | RedBeard | Aelhaz: did you get boa to xcompile for the TuxScreen? |