| 00:06:50 | scanline | is away: hopefully nonpoisonous almost nutritious substances |
| 00:20:59 | prpplague | any fltk gurus here? |
| 01:01:30 | Ailhaz | it takes longer than i thought to dd /dev/zero over a 20 gig drive |
| 01:47:54 | Sammy | Oh~ Hi ~ Yo ~ |
| 01:50:42 | prpplague | Sammy: howdy |
| 01:58:36 | Sammy | prpplague: Knee How :) |
| 02:04:16 | prpplague | Sammy: wo han how |
| 02:39:11 | scanline | is back (gone 02:32:22) |
| 09:26:05 | scanline | morning Sammy |
| 09:26:59 | Sammy | evening scanline :) |
| 09:31:36 | Sammy | {:-) |
| 09:31:54 | scanline | hi |
| 09:32:32 | Sammy | howdy scanline :) |
| 12:02:43 | Sammy | quiet |
| 14:45:59 | sjhill | pardon, but Eric Andersen hangs out here, yes? |
| 14:46:04 | sjhill | oops, Erik |
| 15:15:31 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:31:33 | Sammy | morning prpplague |
| 15:43:58 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: you in the office? |
| 17:27:29 | mallum | Hi AlHazWork |
| 17:27:32 | AlHazWork | hi |
| 17:27:45 | mallum | did you get the package off ? |
| 17:32:44 | AlHazWork | no, didn't get a chance this morning, it's packed up and ready to go at lunch tho |
| 17:47:25 | mallum | ok np |
| 18:30:39 | RedBeardWrk | prpplague: I've got some pix of the linkup |
| 18:30:57 | RedBeardWrk | prpplague: I'll get 'em to you later today |
| 18:38:08 | prpplague | RedBeardWrk: cool thanks |
| 18:38:18 | prpplague | wahoo, just got my maxim samples in |
| 18:49:47 | RedBeardWrk | hmm, I don't seem to be able to send email today... what a supprise |
| 18:55:15 | prpplague | RedBeardWrk: you get yourself black listed, like my winblows sysadm has gotten our server? |
| 19:35:45 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 days, 12 hours, 23 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: not [Sat Mar 16 07:12:44 2002] |
| 19:35:45 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 21:54:40 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 21:54:51 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:01) |
| 21:55:01 | scanline | is really back.. just forgot to go away |
| 21:56:14 | sjm | fake.hmtl? |
| 22:00:30 | Aelhaz | ? |
| 22:01:08 | sjm | new topic... |
| 22:04:19 | Aelhaz | fake.html isn't there either |
| 22:04:43 | sjm | nods |
| 22:06:42 | BZFlag | what's fake? |
| 22:07:09 | andersee | nothing anymore. someone messed the topic |
| 22:07:48 | andersee | They had added a fake.html to the end of the tuxscreen.net uri |
| 22:07:55 | BZFlag | andersee: layoffs today. |
| 22:08:02 | BZFlag | 60% or so. |
| 22:08:47 | andersee | ouch |
| 22:08:55 | andersee | you get hit? |
| 22:08:55 | BZFlag | pierre, will, michael, barb, melvin, curtis, billw, ... |
| 22:09:02 | BZFlag | I'm still here. |
| 22:09:03 | andersee | dang |
| 22:09:07 | Aelhaz | <-- gonna talk to his parents about moving back into the basement |
| 22:09:22 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: you at home now? |
| 22:09:37 | andersee | Aelhaz: you too? :( good luck! Sorry about that! |
| 22:09:40 | BZFlag | eric, dan, kathy, |
| 22:09:45 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: Yeah. took the faster of my two desktops, and dan's monitor 'cause it was better than mine, and he took his laptop |
| 22:09:47 | andersee | :( |
| 22:10:00 | andersee | Aelhaz: free stuff? |
| 22:10:03 | Aelhaz | andersee: Yeah. Severance was what we could carry. |
| 22:10:08 | BZFlag | andersee: they gave em one machine as severance. |
| 22:10:09 | mallum | Aelhaz: Im sorry .... :( |
| 22:10:25 | mallum | that sucks |
| 22:10:32 | Aelhaz | Yeah |
| 22:10:33 | andersee | Aelhaz: you're a big guy -- can carry a lot! |
| 22:10:38 | BZFlag | melvin took my dual 800 that I gave him for a build machine. |
| 22:10:54 | Aelhaz | this palace costs me $625/mo, no way i can pay for that anymore. |
| 22:11:01 | andersee | BZFlag: jfree? |
| 22:11:10 | BZFlag | jfree's still here. |
| 22:11:36 | Aelhaz | jayne mooney's gone, one of the johns is gone, etc |
| 22:11:46 | andersee | is glad his projects are no longer tied to Lineo |
| 22:11:50 | andersee | Aelhaz: which john? |
| 22:12:09 | Aelhaz | andersee: big john, I, er, forget his last name. koyle's boss. |
| 22:12:17 | andersee | John Roberts? |
| 22:12:21 | Aelhaz | yeah |
| 22:12:21 | BZFlag | yep |
| 22:12:22 | andersee | cackles with glee |
| 22:12:33 | BZFlag | had a laugh about it too. |
| 22:12:33 | Aelhaz | mike nilson says he's laying himself off in 2 weeks |
| 22:12:48 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: yeah? I didn't hear that one. |
| 22:12:49 | andersee | mike nilson? |
| 22:13:07 | Aelhaz | andersee: jeaney's boss |
| 22:13:09 | Aelhaz | HR guy |
| 22:13:23 | Aelhaz | One of only a handfull of sentient HR people in the world |
| 22:13:46 | Aelhaz | he said he got the choice of him or jeaney, and picked himself |
| 22:14:12 | Aelhaz | I'm gonna go fry up some gyoza and nuke some rice before dig into $24 worth of girlscout cookies. |
| 22:14:14 | Aelhaz | bbl |
| 22:14:14 | BZFlag | wonders if the johns had the choice. |
| 22:14:23 | andersee | BZFlag: so how many folks are left? |
| 22:14:34 | andersee | BZFlag: like ~20? |
| 22:15:02 | BZFlag | andersee: don't know the exact figure. probably less than 70 world wide. |
| 22:15:11 | BZFlag | could be less than 60. |
| 22:15:33 | andersee | BZFlag: of those, how many are left who are capable of actually doing work? |
| 22:15:40 | BZFlag | we were at 170 or so, most of the other offices had really not shutdown. |
| 22:16:14 | BZFlag | andersee: well, the ratio will be higher. they hit sales, and FAEs and most al of management. |
| 22:17:06 | andersee | BZFlag: seems sane enough. pierre will be a loss I expect. |
| 22:17:23 | andersee | BZFlag: And curtis always seemed pretty good |
| 22:17:30 | BZFlag | I think pierre choose it. he's been in france for a while with family issues. |
| 22:17:44 | Aelhaz | I feel bad for pierre |
| 22:17:46 | andersee | BZFlag: Barb was good, though a bit shortsighted (she fired me after all)... |
| 22:17:51 | BZFlag | heh |
| 22:17:53 | Aelhaz | he's H1B, and he's in france at the moment |
| 22:18:07 | andersee | So all his stuff? |
| 22:18:12 | Aelhaz | all his stuff is in utah |
| 22:18:13 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: he choose it, no? I thought I heard that. |
| 22:18:16 | Aelhaz | he went back 'cause his dad's dying |
| 22:18:19 | andersee | free stuff at pierre's place |
| 22:18:27 | BZFlag | I want the recumbant |
| 22:18:33 | Aelhaz | he was gonna be back in utah on the 22nd |
| 22:18:49 | Aelhaz | I guess now if he comes back, it'll be just to pack up his stuff and fly back to france again |
| 22:19:05 | Aelhaz | if he can come back, dunno what the rules are |
| 22:19:33 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: dunno if he was voluntary |
| 22:19:42 | BZFlag | roberts just dropped by |
| 22:19:55 | Aelhaz | I have to admit that i wonder if the people who didn't go home today are just going to work for two weeks w/o pay before going home |
| 22:20:08 | BZFlag | goes to ask nilson |
| 22:47:13 | andersee | RedBeard: heard the bad news today... :( |
| 22:47:34 | RedBeard | andersee: heh, it's not like I didn't see it comming |
| 22:47:47 | RedBeard | andersee: need any testing done? ;) |
| 22:48:58 | andersee | RedBeard: 'fraid not... or rather, sure, but I can't afford to buy the hardware needed or pay testers... |
| 22:49:09 | RedBeard | andre: heh, yup |
| 22:49:19 | RedBeard | er... andersee |
| 22:49:45 | RedBeard | Lineo hasn't made FC yet |
| 22:50:00 | andersee | FC? |
| 22:50:26 | RedBeard | fc is http://www.fuckedcompany.com/ |
| 23:11:23 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 21 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: FC? [Mon Mar 18 22:50:00 2002] |
| 23:11:23 | jacques_gone | ibot: seen andersee |
| 23:12:03 | theJacques | hi andersee |
| 23:12:05 | andersee | hi |
| 23:12:11 | theJacques | forgot to change my nick at home |
| 23:12:22 | theJacques | how's it going? |
| 23:12:39 | andersee | Not too bad. I added a g++ wrapper to the uClibc cvs tree. |
| 23:13:00 | theJacques | andersee: um, that sounds like great news .. is it? |
| 23:13:15 | andersee | For C++ things that don't require libstdc++, it works great |
| 23:13:25 | theJacques | ah |
| 23:13:29 | theJacques | :-) |
| 23:13:39 | theJacques | what pecentage of c++ things is that? |
| 23:13:49 | BZFlag | pierre will be back on the 28th or so to pick up his stuff. |
| 23:14:37 | RedBeard | BZFlag: so arrangements have been made to help him out? |
| 23:14:53 | andersee | BZFlag: poor guy. That just sucks. |
| 23:15:06 | andersee | BZFlag: Losing his Dad and his job... |
| 23:17:31 | andersee | theJacques: Depends. Anything that uses iostreams will need to use a full uClibc c++ toolchain with libstdc++ |
| 23:18:06 | theJacques | andersee: understood - so are we only waiting on ctype stuff for that? |
| 23:32:44 | BZFlag | RedBeard: there are intentions to make the arrangements. don't think that's the same. |
| 23:34:09 | RedBeard | BZFlag: yeah |
| 23:34:22 | RedBeard | BZFlag: let me know if I can help |
| 23:39:06 | theJacques | something happned with lineo? |
| 23:39:37 | RedBeard | 57% layoff |
| 23:39:44 | theJacques | :-( oh no |
| 23:39:52 | RedBeard | yeah |
| 23:40:21 | theJacques | I'm very very sorry to hear that |
| 23:40:46 | RedBeard | thanks |
| 23:41:07 | theJacques | I keep hoping things will start to get better |
| 23:42:06 | RedBeard | I keep hearing that things are, but it would seen not fast enough for Lineo |
| 23:42:15 | RedBeard | at least for those of us no longer at Lineo |
| 23:42:57 | theJacques | :-( |
| 23:55:08 | andersee | RedBeard: At least there is now a long and glorious tradition of former Lineo employees becoming amazingly welthy and retiting 1 year after being dumped... Or rather, I'm still hoping to start such a tradition (no luck so far ;-) |
| 23:57:02 | mallum | andersee: Im sure your time will come .... |
| 23:57:23 | andersee | hehe |
| 23:57:37 | RedBeard | andersee: ooh, I like that tradition, let me see if I can help establish it |
| 23:57:53 | mallum | andersee: you'll just have to sell your soul ( uclibc ) to M$ ;) |
| 23:58:05 | andersee | nah |
| 23:58:18 | mallum | phew ! |
| 23:58:35 | andersee | So far, I'm doing ok at getting paid to enhance it (with noticable results I might add) |
| 23:58:43 | mallum | that'd be nice |
| 23:59:22 | mallum | s/'d be/is/ |
| 23:59:28 | mallum | misread |