| 00:00:46 | prpplague | get ready leave work on a mission to find good beer........ |
| 00:01:49 | mallum | wej: I went to mountain view, a big flea market in san jose, san fransico, palo alto etc .... lots of places |
| 00:02:14 | mallum | wej: went to infinite loop road |
| 00:02:26 | wej | did you go to big sur? |
| 00:03:13 | mallum | I went to a massive fry's - that was cool - never seen a computer store that big |
| 00:04:02 | AlHazWork | I've only been to the Fry's in gilbert, az. (way outside of phx) |
| 00:04:10 | mallum | bought a vectrex off some guy on ebay and drove to his house to pick it up, that was pretty wierd |
| 00:04:28 | AlHazWork | it was neat, but i didn't buy anything. which turned out to have been a mistake, I ment to buy a 64 meg smartmedia card for my camera for $22 |
| 00:04:53 | AlHazWork | vectrex? |
| 00:05:01 | prpplague | later folks |
| 00:05:09 | prpplague | RedBeard: nice meeting you |
| 00:05:22 | wej | wow. i found the owners manual for my car. |
| 00:05:34 | wej | and y solaris boot media. |
| 00:05:38 | wej | but no irix yet... |
| 00:05:49 | AlHazWork | i don't have an owner's manual for my car. I bought a jetta used, from a dealership, right, and i just sorta figured it'd be in the glovebox. |
| 00:06:00 | AlHazWork | turns out a '95 jetta doesn't have a glovebox |
| 00:06:26 | wej | crap man. |
| 00:06:29 | AlHazWork | (it has a passenger-side airbag instead)( |
| 00:06:29 | wej | lemme look in one more place. |
| 00:06:43 | wej | 95 jetta has no glovebox? |
| 00:06:44 | wej | crazy. |
| 00:06:48 | wej | my glovebox is nothing to speak of |
| 00:07:06 | AlHazWork | yah, the 2000 jetta doesn't even have a cupholder, iirc. maybe like a can holder in the console . . . |
| 00:07:25 | mallum | AlHazWork: vectrex is a small old arcade machine, that had a built in monitor |
| 00:07:26 | AlHazWork | there's a little box in the console, actually, that you might be able to fit a pair of gloves in, if you had a stick or something to compact them with |
| 00:07:31 | AlHazWork | ah |
| 00:08:23 | mallum | AlHazWork: botton left of this pic -> http://10.am/pics/wall_of_shit.jpg , if turned up the right way |
| 00:09:05 | wej | i found all sorts of irix CDs, but no install media. |
| 00:09:05 | AlHazWork | mallum: You know, my mother is a PotA fan, and i found that out in the oddest way |
| 00:09:20 | wej | dude. my friend has a vectrex |
| 00:09:22 | wej | they were sweet :) |
| 00:09:41 | mallum | wej: yeah really nothing like it |
| 00:09:42 | AlHazWork | couple years ago, a cable TV network was doing a "Christmas With The Apes" special on xmas, they were just showing all the PotA movies in series, the whole day, on a loop |
| 00:10:12 | mallum | AlHazWork: cool, I have em on DVD - The new one *sucked* though |
| 00:10:26 | AlHazWork | mid day, I was bored, turned on the tv, couldn't find anything i particularly wanted to see |
| 00:10:32 | AlHazWork | left it on the Xmas With The Apes special, just to encourage anyone else in the room to find something interesting |
| 00:10:37 | wej | it's the Macintosh Classic of console games. |
| 00:10:37 | wej | dammit why won't this microwin build. |
| 00:10:44 | AlHazWork | Mom came down, said "Oh, I love these movies, i haven't seen them in ages!" |
| 00:10:55 | AlHazWork | and proceded to do her cross-stitch while watching them |
| 00:10:55 | AlHazWork | all day |
| 00:11:01 | mallum | heh |
| 00:11:18 | mallum | pota was the first 'adult' film I saw as a kid - really scared me |
| 00:11:24 | AlHazWork | mallum: oh yeah, i decided to boycott the new one when i saw the commercials |
| 00:11:29 | wej | do you have to get the jpeg stuff separately to build microwin or something? |
| 00:12:26 | mallum | AlHazWork: it was incredably bad |
| 00:13:11 | wej | does anyone know? |
| 00:13:20 | AlHazWork | mallum: hollywood doesn't understand the concept of science fiction, is the basic issue |
| 00:13:48 | mallum | AlHazWork: all that had to do was copy the original book, and it would have been fine |
| 00:13:50 | AlHazWork | mallum: they think it's about big scary aliens and special effects, maybe a good fight scene in flying objects of some sort |
| 00:13:57 | mallum | AlHazWork: and the humans spoke in it !!! |
| 00:14:04 | wej | argh. |
| 00:14:12 | wej | does picogui have a simple web browser? |
| 00:14:14 | AlHazWork | mallum: and they completely overlook the sociological aspects |
| 00:14:30 | AlHazWork | mallum: Starship Troopers is probably the best example of this misunderstanding |
| 00:14:54 | kergoth | 'll stick to books, thanks |
| 00:15:14 | AlHazWork | there have been good science fiction movies, just not in the last 20 years or so |
| 00:16:54 | mallum | kergoth: yeah books are better , not that I read that many .... |
| 00:17:07 | mallum | kergoth: I just read 'enders game', that was cool |
| 00:17:09 | kergoth | I'm still trying to read the classics |
| 00:17:13 | kergoth | yeah i just read that last week ;-) |
| 00:17:16 | mallum | kergoth: I read about 1 fiction book a year |
| 00:17:26 | kergoth | and the second one, umm speaker for the dead |
| 00:17:29 | AlHazWork | mallum: it's a shame that orson card sold his soul to mediocrity some time in the mid 90's |
| 00:17:36 | wej | anyone know whre to get the jpeg crap that the buildroot wants? |
| 00:17:40 | kergoth | AlHazWork: ack, did he? i ahvent read much of him yet |
| 00:17:52 | wej | it looks like it's replaced with the busybox jpeg stuff, but the buildroot still looks for it, and croaks when it doesn't find it. |
| 00:18:31 | AlHazWork | kergoth: his recent books are so predictable it hurts to read them |
| 00:18:55 | AlHazWork | ever since, eesh, I forget the name of it, the one after 'speaker' |
| 00:19:02 | AlHazWork | bored me to tears |
| 00:19:09 | kergoth | AlHazWork: thats so disappointing. he seems to have a real knowledge of how to write, along with the talent. |
| 00:19:17 | mallum | I've been told I've got to go to bed |
| 00:19:26 | AlHazWork | his foreshadowing is about as subtle as a brick |
| 00:19:40 | AlHazWork | more of an anvil, really |
| 00:19:45 | mallum | as tommorow Im going to 'the ideal home show' |
| 00:19:45 | AlHazWork | *bonk* |
| 00:19:46 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:19:48 | kergoth | well said |
| 00:19:51 | AlHazWork | "gee, i think he dropped a hint" |
| 00:20:09 | AlHazWork | kergoth: Well, it took him 7 years to get ender's game published |
| 00:20:13 | AlHazWork | after he finished it |
| 00:20:20 | mallum | I didn't mean it like that ! |
| 00:20:21 | AlHazWork | during that time, there were a lot of rewrites |
| 00:20:24 | AlHazWork | and it came out pretty well |
| 00:20:29 | mallum | Its 12:30 here |
| 00:20:55 | AlHazWork | Lately, I suspect his publishers go digging through his trash for new books or something |
| 00:21:01 | wej | mallum.. you live in london? |
| 00:21:06 | kergoth | quite disappointing. |
| 00:21:08 | mallum | wej: yep |
| 00:21:12 | wej | hrm. |
| 00:21:14 | AlHazWork | and instead of being concerned that he's not putting enough work into his books |
| 00:21:15 | wej | hrrrm. |
| 00:21:21 | AlHazWork | he's become convinced that he's a much better writer than he used to be |
| 00:21:34 | mallum | AlHazWork: you get my mail ? |
| 00:21:34 | kergoth | hm, whose definition of 'better' i wonder |
| 00:21:50 | AlHazWork | mallum: Yeah |
| 00:21:57 | AlHazWork | that email address is my paypal acct, too |
| 00:22:11 | mallum | AlHazWork: cool, I'll paypal you first thing in the morning |
| 00:22:41 | AlHazWork | k |
| 00:23:15 | mallum | ok nice speaking to you all |
| 00:23:23 | wej | night amigo |
| 00:23:30 | AlHazWork | g'nite |
| 00:23:32 | mallum | good night & many thanks AlHazWork |
| 00:31:00 | wej | man. that's the most incorrect thing i've ever seen :) |
| 00:31:02 | wej | reality hauls ass. |
| 00:36:01 | wej | cvs checkout: authorization failed: server cvs.infradead.org rejected access to /home/cvs for user anoncvs |
| 00:36:04 | wej | if it ain't one thang... |
| 00:37:17 | AlHazWork | oh |
| 00:37:18 | wej | argh. |
| 00:37:19 | AlHazWork | do this |
| 00:37:26 | AlHazWork | 'touch ~/.cvspass' |
| 00:37:38 | AlHazWork | then try again |
| 00:37:42 | AlHazWork | iirc |
| 00:37:43 | wej | still no dice. |
| 00:37:58 | wej | cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs \ |
| 00:37:58 | wej | co -D 20020102 mtd) |
| 00:37:59 | wej | cvs checkout: authorization failed: server cvs.infradead.org rejected access to /home/cvs for user anoncvs |
| 00:37:59 | wej | cvs checkout: used empty password; try "cvs login" with a real password |
| 00:38:18 | AlHazWork | oh, did you log in yet? |
| 00:38:21 | wej | yeah. |
| 00:38:24 | AlHazWork | hmm |
| 00:38:29 | AlHazWork | dunno what to tell you |
| 00:38:44 | wej | it's not taking any pass i give it for user anoncvs |
| 00:39:05 | wej | dammit. |
| 00:39:06 | wej | soccer game. |
| 00:39:09 | wej | bbl. |
| 00:47:40 | AlHazWork | so did anyone ever implement the controll lines on the serial port in the tux? |
| 00:47:55 | AlHazWork | are they implemented in hardware? or did they use the gpio pins elsewhere? |
| 01:08:44 | andersee | is back (gone 20:55:57) |
| 01:11:47 | AlHazWork | goin home, cya folks |
| 01:25:50 | BZFlag | makefile does CVS_PASSFILE=$(SOURCE_DIR)/cvspass do get into mtd cvs. |
| 01:50:01 | RedBeard | anyone around? |
| 01:50:18 | RedBeard | I've got a stupid debian question |
| 01:50:38 | RedBeard | stupid user, debian question |
| 01:52:06 | andersee | shoot |
| 01:52:43 | RedBeard | I'm trying to compile bidwatcher from source, the configure script complains that I don't have glib or gtk installed (or that they're in the wrong place) |
| 01:53:12 | RedBeard | I can't seem to find a glib-dev or gtk-dev package using "apt-cache search" |
| 01:53:33 | RedBeard | what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:54:39 | andersee | sudo apt-get install libglib1.2 libgtk1.2-dev |
| 01:54:49 | RedBeard | ah, thanks |
| 01:55:50 | RedBeard | many thanks |
| 01:56:37 | andersee | no problem |
| 01:56:46 | andersee | Still at Lineo? |
| 01:57:04 | RedBeard | yeah |
| 01:57:21 | RedBeard | well, not at this moment, but still employed there |
| 01:57:32 | andersee | Heh. Things going ok down there for you? |
| 01:58:03 | RedBeard | I guess, I've still got a job, so, that's prety good |
| 01:58:11 | RedBeard | I saw you in the other day talking with Matt |
| 01:58:21 | RedBeard | how'd that go? |
| 01:58:53 | andersee | Yeah, I was in the area anyway. They wanted to talk about farming some work out my way. |
| 01:59:19 | andersee | If I was lacking for work, I'd consider it. As is.... |
| 01:59:40 | RedBeard | that's a prety good position to be in |
| 01:59:44 | RedBeard | pretty |
| 02:00:23 | andersee | Except for the long nights and no time off, yeah. |
| 02:00:38 | RedBeard | no, that's not good |
| 02:00:58 | andersee | Better than the alternative though |
| 02:01:08 | RedBeard | yeah |
| 02:11:49 | pmisfit | is back (gone 16:44:45) |
| 02:11:58 | RedBeard | prpplague: did you find beer? |
| 02:12:11 | prpplague | is back like a bad case of atheletes foot |
| 02:12:28 | prpplague | RedBeard: guiness and grolschs |
| 02:12:35 | RedBeard | ah, good |
| 02:12:48 | RedBeard | was the guiness green? |
| 02:12:53 | prpplague | RedBeard: still slaving away at the office? |
| 02:13:30 | RedBeard | no, I left early (about 3:45) |
| 02:13:38 | prpplague | RedBeard: i've not jumped into the guinness yet, got a nice pint glass chillin in the fridge |
| 02:13:46 | RedBeard | I'm now home, making myself feel stupid with debian |
| 02:14:11 | prpplague | RedBeard: lol, been there done that |
| 02:15:54 | RedBeard | I seem to be missing g++/c++/gpp |
| 02:16:29 | prpplague | doh |
| 02:16:32 | RedBeard | and I think I've found a bug in the configure script I'm working with |
| 02:17:00 | andersee | apt-get install g++ libstdc++2.10-dev |
| 02:17:27 | prpplague | holy cow the master codepoet is alive |
| 02:17:37 | RedBeard | did the libstdc++2.10-dev already, I must have missed g++ |
| 02:17:39 | RedBeard | thanks |
| 02:17:54 | prpplague | andersee: you ever done one of the "99 bottles of beer" apps? |
| 02:18:28 | RedBeard | prpplague: there's a guy that collects them, writen in all kinds of languages |
| 02:19:02 | andersee | prpplague: fraid not |
| 02:19:05 | RedBeard | prpplague: http://internet.ls-la.net/mirrors/99bottles/ |
| 02:19:13 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya thats the one |
| 02:19:32 | RedBeard | I've used them for testing purposes |
| 02:20:58 | prpplague | RedBeard: i never thought of that |
| 02:21:09 | RedBeard | they're not realy great tests |
| 02:21:22 | RedBeard | but they are a start |
| 02:21:46 | RedBeard | "yup, xyz is there and has minimum functionality" type tests |
| 02:23:46 | RedBeard | andersee: thanks again |
| 02:25:13 | andersee | np |
| 02:25:41 | andersee | has been helping people with Debian since 1996 |
| 02:26:12 | RedBeard | heh |
| 02:26:20 | RedBeard | it's improved a whole lot since then |
| 02:27:15 | RedBeard | my attempt to install it back then resulted in a waste of hard drive space |
| 02:27:34 | prpplague | andersee: argh, i was going to play with the new uclibc tool chain tomorrow, but the "boss" has got me going to look at carpet tomorrow |
| 02:28:00 | andersee | carpet? |
| 02:28:18 | RedBeard | prpplague: heh, we probably ought to do that |
| 02:28:21 | prpplague | andersee: ya thats what i said, she wants to remodel the house |
| 02:28:25 | andersee | Are you his offical good taste expert? |
| 02:28:26 | RedBeard | look at carpet that is |
| 02:28:45 | prpplague | boss=wife |
| 02:29:22 | andersee | ahh> |
| 02:29:52 | andersee | missed the `"' |
| 02:30:19 | prpplague | andersee: don't you have a "boss"? |
| 02:32:22 | prpplague | andersee: you ever embedded mozilla or netscape with java script support before? |
| 02:33:15 | andersee | yup |
| 02:33:21 | andersee | to both |
| 02:34:01 | prpplague | andersee: bout what size did you get the browse down to? |
| 02:37:04 | prpplague | RedBeard: you ever get to play with any of snapgear's stuff? |
| 02:37:48 | RedBeard | prpplague: yeah, the software it comes with is crap |
| 02:38:05 | RedBeard | so far, I haven't taken the time to roll my own for it |
| 02:38:38 | andersee | prpplague: I think I managed to get netscape + jave into 16 MB compressed |
| 02:38:46 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya thats what we thought, but the unit fits our needs better than anything else right now |
| 02:39:16 | RedBeard | which one(s) are you looking at (tell me the specs, I dont' know their modle numbers) |
| 02:39:23 | prpplague | andersee: hmmm, 32mb flash using cramfs would probably do then |
| 02:39:40 | prpplague | RedBeard: its the smallest unit, called "LITE" |
| 02:39:56 | prpplague | RedBeard: we use it for simple vpn solution |
| 02:40:05 | RedBeard | *nod* |
| 02:40:10 | prpplague | RedBeard: we'd like to change the software a little |
| 02:40:28 | RedBeard | I've got a couple of their discontinued amd based systems |
| 02:41:16 | prpplague | RedBeard: we'd like to have a "wizard" ask to questions we need a then do the config, since 99% of our installs are the same |
| 02:41:17 | andersee | In that case it sucked pretty badly, being swapless |
| 02:41:22 | prpplague | Morn: hey there |
| 02:41:49 | Morn | hi |
| 02:41:51 | Morn | just got home |
| 02:41:52 | prpplague | andersee: i'd probably use a ramdisk for swap |
| 02:42:08 | prpplague | Morn: back from seeing your parole officer? |
| 02:42:12 | RedBeard | prpplague: yeah, that'd be good, even better have it load a default config, so that it had the default settings you use most often |
| 02:42:31 | Morn | nah, a new client |
| 02:42:50 | AeroSpace | I'm trying the XFree86 distributed with debian ARM and I'm getting the error "xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O" is that even needed since I'm using the frame buffer for X? |
| 02:42:52 | prpplague | Morn: how many phones have you destroyed this week?lol |
| 02:43:00 | AeroSpace | prpplague: What's the point of swapping to ram? |
| 02:43:02 | RedBeard | prpplague: then ask you which ones you want to change |
| 02:43:25 | RedBeard | anyone here need a jtag & cable set for a tuxphone? |
| 02:43:27 | prpplague | RedBeard: exactly |
| 02:44:14 | AeroSpace | If my paypal account ever got unblocked I might get a jtag just incase. |
| 02:44:24 | prpplague | RedBeard: not me, but i'm going to order a jtag dongle from bzflag |
| 02:44:51 | RedBeard | AeroSpace: I've got one I'd like to sell |
| 02:45:08 | prpplague | AeroSpace: mainly to use for storing image cache |
| 02:46:23 | AeroSpace | prpplague: I guess I don't see how swapping to ram is any better than not swapping and leaving it in ram. |
| 02:47:16 | AeroSpace | RedBeard: I'm also trying to not spend money until I get a job. |
| 02:48:29 | RedBeard | AeroSpace: ah, an admirable effort |
| 02:48:36 | RedBeard | I'll quit tempting you |
| 02:50:38 | prpplague | AeroSpace: ahh i see what your saying, i just not sure how netscape/mozilla determines how much ram to use |
| 02:51:36 | AeroSpace | prpplague: konqueror is just as much of a pig, it ran me out of ram once before I figured out what was going on and killed it. |
| 02:52:57 | jacques_gone | andersee: how goes it? |
| 02:53:30 | | privet, prpplague |
| 02:53:30 | prpplague | jacques: howdy |
| 02:53:38 | | prpplague: excuse me? |
| 02:53:38 | prpplague | ibot: bite me |
| 02:56:14 | | andersee: i'm not following you... |
| 02:56:14 | andersee | ibot: bite jacques |
| 02:56:20 | | andersee: what? |
| 02:56:20 | andersee | ibot: follow me |
| 02:56:39 | | andersee: sorry... |
| 02:56:39 | andersee | ibot: I command you to follow me |
| 02:56:47 | | andersee: sorry... |
| 02:56:47 | andersee | ibot: Yes, you will be |
| 02:56:59 | andersee | jacques: ok |
| 02:59:34 | prpplague | RedBeard: were the one earlier talking about the linkup board? |
| 03:03:01 | jacques | andersee: sorry for delays |
| 03:04:22 | andersee | no problem |
| 03:04:33 | andersee | jacques: I have delays of my own... |
| 03:05:27 | RedBeard | prpplague: yeah |
| 03:05:46 | RedBeard | I wasn't able to find who makes it. Alhaz said it's some company in japan |
| 03:05:54 | prpplague | RedBeard: ya i found their url, no pics of the board though |
| 03:06:15 | RedBeard | prpplague: I can probably get you some pix. I think we've still got one around the office |
| 03:06:19 | RedBeard | remind me Monday |
| 03:07:04 | prpplague | RedBeard: roger that |
| 03:15:57 | wej | anyone got any clue why ... argh. |
| 03:16:00 | wej | hehe |
| 03:16:02 | wej | frustrating as hell. |
| 03:16:12 | wej | trying to build with picogui now, but it dies on the cvs login to cvs.infradead.org |
| 03:16:18 | wej | doesn't like blank passwd field. |
| 03:16:23 | wej | or anything else i've tried as a password. |
| 03:18:41 | lilo | hi all, anyone around? |
| 03:18:46 | | privet, Morn |
| 03:18:46 | Morn | hi |
| 03:18:47 | wej | yeah. |
| 03:18:58 | lilo | have you folks had any problems with a user with the nick 'polytarp'? |
| 03:19:03 | AeroSpace | I'm trying the XFree86 distributed with debian ARM and I'm getting the error "xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O" is that even needed since I'm using the frame buffer for X? |
| 03:19:13 | RedBeard | looks at the topic |
| 03:19:42 | prpplague | if [ $LOGNAME = "wej" ] then _buildroot-mode_="piss-n-moan" |
| 03:19:44 | RedBeard | lilo: polytarp came through, left his mark amd seems to have moved on |
| 03:19:51 | RedBeard | s/amd/and |
| 03:19:59 | lilo | hmmm, his mark seems to have disappeared |
| 03:20:04 | andersee | lilo: yep |
| 03:20:05 | RedBeard | yup |
| 03:20:19 | lilo | blinks innocently |
| 03:20:46 | lilo | kind of outside my assigned role, so we'll assume it just happened spontaneously 8) |
| 03:20:56 | AeroSpace | :fake.hmtl ? |
| 03:21:18 | wej | did buildroot get fixed? |
| 03:21:27 | wej | i'm still dying on the anoncvs login to cvs.infradead.org |
| 03:21:49 | RedBeard | lilo: hehe |
| 03:21:58 | wej | prpplague: it's not like i'm doing something wrong :) |
| 03:21:59 | prpplague | wej: what no comment on my clever joke? |
| 03:22:02 | wej | heh. |
| 03:22:12 | wej | just now read it ;) |
| 03:22:25 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:22:37 | prpplague | has a poor sense of humor |
| 03:22:39 | wej | does anyone know the correct login to infradead? |
| 03:22:40 | wej | heh. |
| 03:22:42 | wej | no worries man. |
| 03:22:45 | wej | i have a poor brain. |
| 03:23:07 | AeroSpace | thinks the topic should have the correct tuxscreen url |
| 03:23:30 | wej | hmtl. |
| 03:23:30 | prpplague | oh no did tuxscreen.net get hacked? |
| 03:23:39 | wej | nah. it's the new thing. hypermaniacaltextlanguage |
| 03:23:40 | AeroSpace | fake.hmtl |
| 03:23:44 | AeroSpace | read the topic |
| 03:24:27 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:24:39 | RedBeard | fake.html is no good either |
| 03:25:15 | wej | has anyone run buildroot lately? can someone tell me something? like maybe just to put the lime in the coconut and i'll feel better? |
| 03:25:40 | prpplague | ya some jerk posted a bunch of stuff on the wiki a couple of months ago, i was hoping this wasn't going to be repeat |
| 03:25:45 | andersee | I rebuilt everything yesterday and flashed my phone and it works |
| 03:26:06 | wej | i can't build cuz i can't get past the stupid cvs access to infradead. |
| 03:26:06 | andersee | wej: does that help? |
| 03:26:13 | wej | it helps to frustrate me :) |
| 03:26:14 | wej | heheehh. |
| 03:26:25 | wej | did you build witha gui? |
| 03:26:42 | lilo | waves and wanders off |
| 03:26:47 | wej | i'm dying on mtd.... |
| 03:26:50 | wej | so i guess it don't matter... |
| 03:27:11 | prpplague | wej: ahh yes i've had problems with the mtd portion before as well |
| 03:27:20 | wej | with access to the cvs server? |
| 03:27:29 | wej | or problems with the makefile? |
| 03:27:33 | wej | i've had both. |
| 03:27:36 | prpplague | wej: yes as well the snapshot # being wrong |
| 03:27:38 | andersee | You could edit the Makefile and try using a daily snapshot |
| 03:27:46 | wej | yeah. i've had that one a couple of times. |
| 03:27:47 | wej | today. |
| 03:27:48 | wej | hehehe. |
| 03:28:10 | andersee | We probably need to take a working mtd snapshot and post it somewhere http accessible |
| 03:28:18 | wej | taht'd be sweet. |
| 03:28:24 | wej | looking for daily build number.... |
| 03:28:38 | wej | heh. howdidthisgethere is still there. |
| 03:28:39 | wej | heheeh. |
| 03:49:38 | prpplague | anyone here worked with the sa-1111 chip? |
| 03:51:12 | prpplague | oops |
| 03:51:14 | prpplague | that was fun |
| 03:57:10 | wej | i put one in a bag of doritos once as a gag. |
| 04:00:57 | prpplague | wej:lol |
| 04:11:10 | TomW_ | prpplague: hey. |
| 04:11:19 | prpplague | TomW_: why hello there |
| 04:11:24 | prpplague | TomW_: just posted a message to the list |
| 04:11:55 | TomW_ | prpplague: Yes, just got the list working a while ago.. |
| 04:12:13 | prpplague | TomW_: love those root kits |
| 04:12:31 | prpplague | TomW_: http://www.keith-koep.com/trizeps.html |
| 04:12:33 | TomW_ | You do? I have this one you can have anytime. ;-) |
| 04:12:39 | prpplague | TomW_: lol |
| 04:13:23 | prpplague | TomW_: ever once in awhile i like to leave a box out and let it get rooted and see if i can recover it |
| 04:13:26 | TomW_ | prpplague: Turned out to be a lot less work than I had expected. I am getting better at this linux stuff. |
| 04:14:01 | prpplague | TomW_: ya i use rhat kickstart disks for quick server installs |
| 04:14:25 | TomW_ | prpplague: thrill-seeker. You don't jaywalk in front of moving vehicles to see if you can jump out of the way, do you? ;-) |
| 04:15:10 | prpplague | TomW_: no, i just jumped out of planes when i was in the army, thats about it these days |
| 04:15:20 | TomW_ | prpplague: Well, I see that Tim is down to 300 units, I will have to get a couple more... |
| 04:15:34 | prpplague | TomW_: ya i've been meaning to as well |
| 04:15:53 | prpplague | TomW_: found some nice maxim ics to use on the tuxscreen core |
| 04:16:37 | TomW_ | prpplague: Umm.. Yeah, Maxim.. They have a hell of a linecard, but, they only manufacture some of that stuff. |
| 04:16:46 | prpplague | TomW_: you look at that trizeps dimm? |
| 04:17:06 | prpplague | TomW_: ya but they seem to have a great samples program |
| 04:20:45 | TomW_ | prpplague: 195 Euros is not a bad price, it looks interesting. |
| 04:21:06 | prpplague | TomW_: think we could get an open version of that built? |
| 04:21:34 | TomW_ | prpplague: probably.. |
| 04:22:54 | prpplague | TomW_: i'm thinking about trying to order atleast one of those |
| 04:23:38 | andersee | Sigh |
| 04:23:47 | andersee | buildroot-tux has a bunch of lines like: |
| 04:23:50 | andersee | cat $(UCLIBC_PATCH) | patch -d $(UCLIBC_DIR) -p1 |
| 04:24:13 | andersee | But the makefile will not halt on failure on these. |
| 04:24:15 | andersee | :( |
| 04:24:20 | andersee | s/not// |
| 04:24:37 | andersee | err |
| 04:24:48 | andersee | is mumbling |
| 04:24:48 | prpplague | fun |
| 04:25:01 | andersee | thinking... |
| 04:25:29 | prpplague | andersee: you'd cry if you saw some of the closed source nightmares at my company |
| 04:25:36 | andersee | heh |
| 04:26:13 | andersee | Problem is that even though even if the cat fails, the patch command is still returning success |
| 04:26:59 | andersee | i.e. |
| 04:27:01 | andersee | $ cat crap | patch -d /tmp -p1 && echo $? |
| 04:27:01 | andersee | cat: crap: No such file or directory |
| 04:27:01 | andersee | 0 |
| 04:27:21 | andersee | patch shouldn't be giving a success there. :( |
| 04:28:24 | prpplague | andersee: can i ask a stupid question? why is it not: patch -p1 < crap |
| 04:28:56 | Aelhaz | evenin |
| 04:29:12 | prpplague | Aelhaz: howdy |
| 04:29:35 | andersee | since crap may be compressed.. i.e. bzcat and zcat |
| 04:30:54 | prpplague | andersee: ahh i see your delema |
| 04:31:07 | andersee | This type of thing can't work: patch -d /tmp -p1 < `zcat crap.gz` |
| 04:31:21 | andersee | ponders |
| 04:32:06 | TomW_ | prpplague: too bad that guy who build the Trizeps didn't make a pcb motherboard with 2 ethernets and an IDE port. |
| 04:32:28 | prpplague | TomW_: ya that'd be too awesome |
| 04:32:55 | TomW_ | prpplague: would be a internet gateway + web servers. |
| 04:34:08 | prpplague | andersee: if [ -f crap ] then ...... ? |
| 04:34:41 | prpplague | andersee: tell me to shutup anytime...... |
| 04:35:10 | andersee | Ok, this will work: |
| 04:35:12 | andersee | cat crap && patch -d /tmp -p1 -i - |
| 04:35:28 | TomW_ | andersee: looks reasonable.. |
| 04:36:14 | prpplague | andersee: ahh and that will return the and'd results ? |
| 04:36:42 | TomW_ | prpplague: naw, it will only run patch if crap exists. |
| 04:36:57 | andersee | TomW_: yup |
| 04:37:16 | andersee | That will fix buildroot when patches go missing |
| 04:37:48 | prpplague | gotcha i follow now |
| 04:38:58 | prpplague | i've got to get some better kids apps for my yopy, my loves that thing |
| 04:39:10 | prpplague | s/my/my son |
| 04:45:56 | prpplague | ok so why does this fail to terminate?: cat /etc/hosts && grep local |
| 04:48:34 | prpplague | nv stupid question |
| 04:48:50 | prpplague | nm |
| 04:52:43 | prpplague | night all |
| 05:09:42 | andersee | Grr. |
| 05:09:48 | andersee | That doesn't work. |
| 05:10:01 | andersee | thwaps himself on the head |
| 05:20:32 | Morn | is away: dreaming in bits of pascal... |
| 05:45:06 | scanline | is back (gone 12:56:39) |
| 05:47:18 | RedBeard | g'nite |
| 06:57:33 | jacques | andersee: what's the current state of the c++ toolchain? |
| 07:02:30 | andersee | same as yesterday evening. |
| 07:02:43 | andersee | I've been working on something else for a little bit. |
| 07:02:52 | andersee | I may get back to it later tonight |
| 07:03:19 | jacques | so still ctype problems? |
| 07:03:28 | jacques | ok just wanted to make sure I didnt miss anything |
| 07:03:45 | andersee | Yup |
| 07:04:07 | jacques | ok cool |
| 07:05:48 | andersee | I've not decided if I want to just copy libstdc++-v3/config/os/generic/bits/* to libstdc++-v3/config/os/gnu-linux/bits/ or whether I want to fix it per glibc's ctype stuff |
| 07:09:12 | andersee | I expect that copying that would make stage6 complete though |
| 07:10:39 | jacques | hmmm |
| 07:11:03 | jacques | but what would the implications be? |
| 07:11:37 | andersee | ctype would not be locale-ified |
| 07:11:45 | andersee | Thats all |
| 07:11:57 | andersee | <I think> |
| 07:12:09 | jacques | bah who cares about that? :-) |
| 07:12:23 | jacques | Im sure there are ppl in this group who do, but not I |
| 07:12:40 | andersee | I know it is critical to me that an isupper() in C++ correctly works on cyrylic ;-) |
| 07:12:44 | andersee | not |
| 07:13:00 | jacques | :-) |
| 07:13:05 | jacques | exactly |
| 13:21:58 | scanline | compiles gcc-3.0 for m68k-linux.. crunch crunch grind... |
| 13:37:31 | scanline | Isn't there an easy way to build cross-compilers in Debian? |
| 13:37:52 | scanline | i think i've almost got the hang of doing it manually, but it's a little annoying |
| 13:38:30 | scanline | I have too many cross-compilers on this system... ARM, PPC, MIPS.. soon i'll have m68k and SH4 |
| 13:39:03 | scanline | hehe.. ELF and COFF versions of m68k |
| 13:43:40 | scanline | holy cow... glibc sure does need a lot of arguments to gcc |
| 13:43:57 | scanline | almost an entire terminal full at 80x25 |
| 13:44:08 | scanline | waves near GPSFan |
| 13:44:28 | GPSFan | hi, scanline |
| 13:44:34 | scanline | mostly all include directories... |
| 13:45:27 | GPSFan | lots of args >>> big library ;>) |
| 13:45:33 | scanline | yep |
| 13:50:03 | scanline | grr... compile errors |
| 20:03:48 | mallum | Aelhaz: did you get my paypal order ? |
| 20:08:15 | jacques | ooh, what's he selling? |
| 20:08:47 | mallum | jacques: crack cocaine |
| 20:09:05 | mallum | jacques: um ... sorry I meant a laptop drive |
| 20:11:31 | jacques | d'oh |
| 20:11:44 | jacques | guess I'll keep cruisin' then |
| 20:12:01 | jacques | maybe I'll look for crack on ebay |
| 23:58:14 | scanline | is away: foodlike edible stuff |
