| 00:01:36 | mallum | is back (gone 00:21:21) |
| 00:07:17 | byron | howdy all .. been having trouble getting the uclibc component of the buildroot-tux to compile .. using current toolchain from handhelds.org and gcc 2.95.x .. trub is with ldso .. get an assembly error when the makefile tries to compile it .. if i execute the command separate from makefile then i get an unknown format error .. sorry for long post |
| 00:07:46 | CosmicPenguin | get a newer cross compiler |
| 00:08:01 | CosmicPenguin | 2.95.2 has issues |
| 00:09:55 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Off to fight with the folks at Radio Sucks |
| 00:12:23 | byron | been trying off and on for a week to get it to work .. got same error with gcc 2.96 shipped with redhat 7.2 on different box |
| 00:22:48 | file | pokes his head in |
| 00:23:25 | file | pokes people |
| 00:24:49 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 23 hours, 8 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: Actually, if things go well I hope to cut a uClibc release, and release toolchains concurrently. [Wed Mar 13 01:15:57 2002] |
| 00:24:49 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:25:07 | | I haven't seen 'sjhill', file |
| 00:25:07 | file | ibot: seen sjhill |
| 00:25:12 | file | not good |
| 00:39:03 | mallum | is away: tv - 'where eagles dare' movie is on :) |
| 01:38:40 | Sammy | morning ... |
| 01:40:43 | prpplague | Sammy: knee how |
| 01:43:08 | Sammy | hello prpplague . |
| 02:20:31 | jacques | quiet today |
| 02:25:50 | jacques | andersee: !! :-) |
| 02:26:05 | jacques | bugs andersee mercilessly. |
| 02:26:29 | andersee | jacques: I have good news for you. |
| 02:27:07 | andersee | jacques: I have the ctor/dtor stuff all fixed up and working now for both static and dynamic linking. :) |
| 02:27:58 | andersee | I'm busy updating the daily snapshot (a bit early), syncing cvs, and updating the toolchain stuff on codepoet.org |
| 02:28:49 | jacques | andersee: that's wonderful news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:28:57 | jacques | dances around. |
| 02:29:54 | andersee | hehe |
| 02:30:25 | andersee | I've not yet tested it on arm though, x86 so far but I don't expect problems. |
| 02:31:14 | andersee | Guess I should try it on my tuxscreen here in a few |
| 02:36:16 | jacques | :-) |
| 02:39:48 | prpplague | andersee: great news |
| 02:50:14 | jacques | I'm reading the uclibc list now. |
| 02:57:33 | jacques | hmm, didn't the toolchain used to be at uclibc.org/toolchain/ ? |
| 03:00:18 | andersee | http://codepoet.org/toolchain |
| 03:00:36 | andersee | I still need to sync that tree up with my local one. |
| 03:01:47 | andersee | Doh |
| 03:01:49 | andersee | /home/andersen/CVS/gcc/gcc-3.0.3.working/toolchain/i386-linux/bin/ld: cannot open crti.o: No such file or directory |
| 03:02:00 | andersee | Found a bug on recompile. Fixing. |
| 03:03:03 | andersee | Oh. hehe |
| 03:03:25 | andersee | Forgot to sync the uclibc.org mirror |
| 03:03:56 | jacques | let me know when things are sync'ed :-) |
| 03:17:13 | jacques | andersee: any reason you're not using gcc 3.0.4 ? |
| 03:18:29 | andersee | Mostly because I started before it was released and I havn't upgraded |
| 03:21:21 | andersee | jacques: k, everything is now synced up. |
| 03:21:35 | jacques | andersee: great! what do I need to download? |
| 03:21:51 | andersee | rebuilding once more to be sure I havn't missed anything... |
| 03:22:12 | jacques | cool |
| 03:22:28 | andersee | http://codepoet.org/toolchain/ |
| 03:22:47 | andersee | That is subject to change later, but works for now. |
| 03:23:35 | jacques | just read the README - gcc2 is not yet working, right? |
| 03:24:00 | jacques | do I need the latest snap of uclibc for this to work correctly? |
| 03:26:42 | andersee | yep. Latest uClibc as of a few minutes ago... |
| 03:26:47 | andersee | Hang on for a sec... |
| 03:26:55 | andersee | Making one last makefile update... |
| 03:28:13 | jacques | ok |
| 03:28:45 | jacques | gonna get food - biab |
| 03:39:46 | andersee | k |
| 03:40:38 | andersee | /home/andersen/CVS/gcc/gcc-3.0.3.working/gcc-3.0.3/libstdc++-v3/src/locale-inst.cc:205: undefined reference to `strtof' |
| 03:40:39 | andersee | /home/andersen/CVS/gcc/gcc-3.0.3.working/gcc-3.0.3/libstdc++-v3/src/locale-inst.cc:205: undefined reference to `strtold' |
| 03:40:43 | andersee | One more bug to fix... |
| 04:07:55 | byron | doing the buildroot with the microwin option.. when linking nano-X, get libmwdrivers.a(genfont.o): undefined reference to font_... any ideas? |
| 04:15:19 | jacques | back from food |
| 04:22:42 | andersee | jacques: I can stub those two functions out for now... They got lost in the stdio rewrite. |
| 04:23:11 | jacques | hmg, strtof seems kinda important |
| 04:25:30 | andersee | Well, I know that. :) It will be coming back soon. I need to talk to Manuel before I go messing with that though, since he said he had those (and he blew away the old ones) |
| 04:25:35 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: hi |
| 04:25:45 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: ctors/dtors are working now. |
| 04:26:29 | jacques | andersee: you mean even if configed for old stdio, those funcs are no longer ther? |
| 04:28:46 | byron | CosmicPenguin: got 2.95.3 cross compiler and all worked well.. with one exception: doing the buildroot with the microwin option.. error in linking nano-X "libmwdrivers.a(genfont.o): undefined reference to font_..." any ideas? |
| 04:29:13 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: can I get a tarball yet? I've got a 7.7MB distro that is just begging to go down to 4.0 |
| 04:33:15 | andersee | jacques: a merge problem with the new stdio core made them disappear. They will be back this evening. |
| 04:33:16 | CosmicPenguin | byron: Is it blowing out on all the fonts, or just a few of them? |
| 04:33:28 | jacques | andersee: ah cool |
| 04:33:41 | CosmicPenguin | byron: give me a couple of symbols.... |
| 04:33:57 | byron | just a few... |
| 04:34:37 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you can grab the source now. There is one bug left where strtof and strtold disappeared. Fixing that now and then I'll cut a release of the toolchain |
| 04:35:57 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: awesome |
| 04:36:02 | jacques | drools. |
| 04:36:14 | byron | winFreeSystem14x16, winFreeSansSerif11x13, rom8x16, X6x13 .. symbols?? |
| 04:37:00 | CosmicPenguin | thinks its time to drop a few bucks in the hat at www.uclibc.org |
| 04:37:17 | CosmicPenguin | byron: go to microwin/src/fonts and see if there are any object files in that directory |
| 04:38:08 | byron | CosmicPenguin: yes there are |
| 04:38:15 | jacques | do they take paypal? |
| 04:38:25 | CosmicPenguin | byron: weird. The symbols you are missing are just the font definition fiiles |
| 04:38:39 | CosmicPenguin | I recommend cleaning it and starting over again |
| 04:40:13 | byron | CosmicPenguin: have done that =( even tried an older release |
| 04:40:35 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... |
| 04:41:03 | CosmicPenguin | Try this. In the CONFIG file, set the line VERBOSE=Y |
| 04:41:30 | byron | ok just a tic |
| 04:41:31 | CosmicPenguin | and then, instead of doing make, try make default - that should stop if you get an error |
| 04:45:53 | CosmicPenguin | Can you believe, I went to radio shack today, and I got exactly what I needed |
| 04:45:55 | CosmicPenguin | is away: I'm busy |
| 04:45:57 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 00:00:01) |
| 04:50:27 | jacques | i dont believe that |
| 04:52:41 | CosmicPenguin | Check out this useless website: www.oneshare.com |
| 04:53:52 | jacques | ugh |
| 04:57:18 | byron | CosmicPenguin: set VERBOSE=Y, performed make default in microwin/src dir .. still no joy same errors .. also get same error for mousedev and kbddev in libmwengine.a |
| 04:59:37 | CosmicPenguin | Ok. That means you're getting an error in the driver somewhere. Where did you get your config file from? |
| 04:59:55 | CosmicPenguin | s/driver/driver directory/ |
| 05:01:56 | byron | CosmicPenguin: the buildroot-tux grabs it from their site and runs a patch on it in the Makefile before compiling. |
| 05:02:18 | CosmicPenguin | Wierd |
| 05:05:29 | byron | CosmicPenguin: in the config, under libraries to build, it has microwin=N .. perhaps this is the trub? |
| 05:05:38 | CosmicPenguin | No, thats the win32 api |
| 05:06:10 | CosmicPenguin | go to microwin/src/drivers and run make in there. |
| 05:06:17 | CosmicPenguin | That seems to be where the problem is |
| 05:06:50 | byron | nothing to be done |
| 05:07:55 | CosmicPenguin | It seems that all of your object files are there, but they aren't getting built in |
| 05:10:55 | CosmicPenguin | byron: could you send your info and a list of errors to nanogui@linuxhacker.org? I'll check that out in the morning |
| 05:11:13 | byron | yes sounds good |
| 05:11:23 | byron | thank you |
| 05:11:30 | CosmicPenguin | unfortunately, I am being pressured to go and pay attention to somebody else |
| 05:11:32 | CosmicPenguin | buh bye |
| 05:14:30 | sjm | byron: which ar is being called to create the library? |
| 05:16:54 | byron | sjm: none that i can tell.. how can i check? |
| 05:18:19 | sjm | byron: If you run make from the src/drivers dir you should see a gcc command followed by an ar command. |
| 05:19:30 | byron | sjm: arm-uclibc-ar |
| 05:21:39 | sjm | byron: can you do a 'which arm-uclibc-ar' for me? |
| 05:22:33 | byron | sjm: buildroot-tux/staging_dir/usr/bin/arm-uclibc-ar |
| 05:23:54 | sjm | byron: Bugger. That looks okay. Kills my idea :) |
| 05:24:55 | sjm | byron: Do you have any .a files in src/lib/ ? |
| 05:25:15 | byron | sjm: yep |
| 05:25:26 | byron | i believe i have them all |
| 05:31:18 | byron | g'nite /wave |
| 05:58:45 | kergoth | er, what happened to busybox.net? |
| 05:58:56 | kergoth | andersee: busybox.net is refusing connects |
| 06:05:06 | andersee | kergoth: looks like an apache upgrade in progress.... |
| 06:05:46 | andersee | kergoth: you can visit a mirror at ca.busybox.net or de.busybox.net |
| 06:05:48 | kergoth | andersee: ah okay, cool. just thought id let ya know :-) |
| 06:05:51 | kergoth | andersee: k, thanks |
| 06:07:54 | jacques | andersee: should I download yet? |
| 06:09:49 | andersee | jacques: nope |
| 06:10:31 | andersee | Or rather, sure. just hold off on starting the build, since I've not gotten the missing symbols in place yet... |
| 06:14:02 | jacques | andersee: I can wait |
| 06:14:02 | jacques | andersee: I'll be up late tonight :-) |
| 06:45:36 | andersee | jacques: k, I just wrote the two missing functions. Testing... |
| 06:46:56 | jacques | whoo :-) |
| 06:47:07 | jacques | too bad you had to re-write them :-\ |
| 06:50:11 | andersee | Wasn't that big a deal. |
| 06:50:53 | andersee | I took the lame/small approach of using strtod under the hood to avoid needing to make yet-another specialized converter |
| 06:50:53 | jacques | I guess you could have taken code from older versions of uclibc ? |
| 06:51:15 | jacques | well that should work fine |
| 06:51:17 | andersee | Actually, these are new per C99, so we didn't have them |
| 06:51:30 | jacques | strtof is C99 ?? |
| 06:51:37 | andersee | I guess I lied earlier. |
| 06:51:40 | andersee | Yes. |
| 06:51:52 | jacques | wow I could swear I used it in like 92 |
| 06:51:54 | jacques | hmm |
| 06:51:56 | andersee | strtof and strtold |
| 06:52:01 | jacques | maybe I am hallucinating |
| 06:52:17 | | jacques: bugger all, i dunno |
| 06:52:17 | jacques | ibot: am I hallucinating? |
| 06:53:01 | andersee | I recall using strtod back then... I don't recall ever using strtof before. |
| 06:53:28 | jacques | I just built a newer version of wget so I can recursively download the tolchain stuff properly |
| 06:53:48 | jacques | maybe i wrote my own strtof |
| 06:55:30 | andersee | I dunno. My background is mechanical engineering, so I've never had much use for float anyways |
| 06:55:43 | jacques | i used to do lots fo 3d graphics stuff |
| 06:56:02 | andersee | me too |
| 06:56:02 | jacques | wait - you dont use floats in mech e ?? |
| 06:56:09 | andersee | double |
| 06:56:12 | andersee | or long double |
| 06:56:18 | jacques | oh right |
| 06:56:25 | jacques | i was gonna ask if that's what you meant |
| 06:56:40 | andersee | when doing numerical stuff, loss of precision is a killer. |
| 06:57:00 | jacques | yep |
| 06:57:07 | jacques | cumulatve error |
| 06:57:16 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'cumulative' |
| 06:57:16 | jacques | ibot: spell cumulative |
| 06:57:40 | andersee | I used to do vision algorithms, robot control, etc. |
| 06:57:42 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'antidisestablimentarianism' |
| 06:57:42 | jacques | ibot: spell antidisestablimentarianism |
| 06:57:48 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:57:58 | andersee | heh |
| 06:58:07 | jacques | andersee: used to do robotics, COOL |
| 06:58:11 | jacques | i love robotics |
| 06:58:20 | jacques | (I think we've already had this convo) |
| 06:58:53 | jacques | andersee: is codepoet.org on your dsl line? |
| 06:58:57 | andersee | I used to do all the closed form kinematics solutions for the all odd robots for me (former) company |
| 06:59:01 | andersee | yup |
| 06:59:28 | jacques | walking bots or arms? |
| 06:59:28 | andersee | I moved busybox.net and uclibc.org onto a better connected machine |
| 06:59:38 | andersee | arms, gantries, etc. |
| 06:59:44 | jacques | so, you still testing? |
| 06:59:56 | andersee | Updating the daily snapshot |
| 07:00:03 | jacques | nod |
| 07:00:17 | jacques | you going to release a pre-built toolchain? |
| 07:17:46 | andersee | dunno. I suppose so. |
| 07:18:10 | andersee | Testing the build from the beginning (again). |
| 07:19:04 | jacques | :-) |
| 07:35:57 | andersee | build finished... |
| 07:36:59 | andersee | bah! |
| 07:37:01 | andersee | $ ./test2 |
| 07:37:01 | andersee | Segmentation fault |
| 07:39:55 | jacques | hmm how many changes? |
| 07:40:08 | jacques | I'm heading home - I will be on from there/ |
| 08:08:58 | scanline | announces picogui working on the dreamcast- screenshots on picogui.org |
| 08:15:49 | jacques | hi andersee what'd i miss? |
| 08:16:26 | andersee | me breaking stuff of course |
| 08:16:32 | jacques | :-) |
| 08:17:31 | andersee | This is frusterating. Its not working again. :( |
| 08:17:52 | andersee | At least I have a backup of it working to compare with... |
| 08:23:30 | jacques | :-\ |
| 08:28:47 | scanline | fades away... |
| 08:54:21 | andersee | has an idea |
| 09:00:40 | andersee | didn't work |
| 09:00:41 | andersee | darn |
| 09:36:16 | BZFlag | I'm hacking the buildroot quite a bit. |
| 09:36:31 | BZFlag | converting stages to depends. |
| 09:36:51 | andersee | cool |
| 09:37:18 | andersee | I've got a new toolchain for cosmic to try out... |
| 10:01:58 | andersee | jacques: well, its working fine for me now... |
| 10:07:30 | BZFlag | cvs commited. |
| 10:07:38 | BZFlag | anyone want to build? ;-) |
| 10:09:41 | andersee | BZFlag: I'm game |
| 10:09:54 | andersee | BZFlag: Wannt try a build with a nice new toolchain? |
| 10:10:41 | andersee | BZFlag: http://codepoet.org/toolchain/gcc-3.0.3/ |
| 10:12:05 | BZFlag | heh. one thing at a time. ;-) |
| 10:12:18 | andersee | Full C++ support.... |
| 10:13:08 | BZFlag | guess who just emailed me? the bozo with spyhop.com asking if I'm still interested. ;-) |
| 10:13:47 | BZFlag | I bet they just got the renewal notice in email from mydomain.com ;-) |
| 10:14:27 | andersee | heh |
| 10:14:56 | andersee | BTW, $(SOURCE_DIR)/uClibc_config_fix.pl should be axed. Use the one in uClibc/extra/Config |
| 10:15:38 | andersee | Current uClibc has an improved version |
| 10:15:59 | andersee | Ahh. |
| 10:16:01 | andersee | uClibc-0.9.9.tar.bz2 |
| 10:16:15 | andersee | Well then. Forget it. |
| 10:16:33 | andersee | Might want to update it though from the latest. Lemme do that. |
| 10:20:24 | BZFlag | you could change it to a cvs co like mtd is now with a known good date. |
| 10:20:38 | BZFlag | not a snapshot that may or maynot break later. |
| 10:22:54 | andersee | Well, I'll be making a release in the next day or two anyway. |
| 10:23:14 | BZFlag | sweet. |
| 10:23:21 | andersee | So for now, the release version is probably safest anyway |
| 10:23:42 | BZFlag | all the subs should work now. ie: make uclibc-clean or make uclibc-dirclean |
| 10:23:54 | andersee | The new stdio has taken a few days to stabalize, and the ctor/dtor stuff has had some churn as well... |
| 10:24:01 | andersee | nice |
| 10:24:26 | BZFlag | for all the targets. ie make busybox-clean ... etc. |
| 10:24:33 | andersee | When people ask how to use busybox/uClibc/etc I point em to the tuxscreen cvs... :) |
| 10:24:45 | BZFlag | could split them to separate makefiles now, and include all of them. |
| 10:25:01 | BZFlag | me too. ;-) |
| 10:25:28 | BZFlag | could use a x86 floppy build of the same style. |
| 10:26:41 | andersee | I have one of those in the busybox cvs tree that doesn't work any more (bit rot) and needs to die... |
| 10:28:21 | BZFlag | a couple minor problems just got fixed. |
| 10:28:59 | BZFlag | make blob didn't work, and mtd needed a different target. |
| 10:30:28 | BZFlag | cool. rm -rf root;make is much faster now. |
| 10:30:55 | BZFlag | ditto for staging_dir |
| 10:36:04 | andersee | k, committed the updated config script |
| 10:37:53 | BZFlag | about to move all build files to build/ |
| 10:38:06 | BZFlag | just do a mv when you update. |
| 10:39:01 | andersee | BTW, didn't russ update the kernel patches to 2.4.18-rmk2? |
| 10:40:32 | BZFlag | I think so, yes. |
| 10:41:02 | andersee | yipe! |
| 10:41:03 | andersee | UDHCP_DIR=$(BASE_DIR)/udhcp-0.9.5 |
| 10:41:03 | andersee | UDHCP_SOURCE=udhcp-0.9.5.tar.gz |
| 10:41:04 | andersee | UDHCP_SITE=http://opensource.lineo.com/udhcp/source |
| 10:41:09 | andersee | fixing... |
| 10:42:53 | andersee | Also bumping pcmcia to pcmcia-cs-3.1.33 (we were 4 releases off) |
| 10:43:30 | BZFlag | trying the new kernel build... |
| 10:44:45 | BZFlag | is there are newer udhcp? or just a new site? ;-) |
| 10:45:55 | andersee | yes |
| 10:46:01 | andersee | 0.9.6 |
| 10:46:13 | andersee | everything on oss.lineo.com is out of date... |
| 10:48:00 | BZFlag | this will be a good test... since linux is phony, then others should not have to rebuild, just the kernel. we'll see if that works. ;-) |
| 10:51:32 | BZFlag | eep... |
| 10:53:08 | BZFlag | move to build/ needs tar and patch updates... =) working. |
| 10:54:59 | andersee | k |
| 10:57:35 | BZFlag | committed |
| 10:58:49 | andersee | lemme try this nice updated thing now |
| 11:06:04 | andersee | You wanna commit the updated .config or shall I? |
| 11:14:44 | TomW | damned crackers / script kiddies... |
| 11:16:01 | andersee | BZFlag: |
| 11:16:04 | andersee | for fo in `find /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/pcmcia-cs-3.1.33/cardmgr/ /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/pcmcia-cs-3.1.33/debug-tools -type f -perm +111`; do \ |
| 11:16:04 | andersee | if file $fo | grep "ELF" | grep "executable" > /dev/null; then \ |
| 11:16:04 | andersee | /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/staging_dir/usr/bin/arm-uclibc-strip $fo \ |
| 11:16:04 | andersee | fi \ |
| 11:16:04 | andersee | done |
| 11:16:05 | andersee | /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| 11:16:07 | andersee | make: *** [/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/pcmcia-cs-3.1.33/cardmgr/cardmgr] Error 2 |
| 11:16:23 | andersee | We need to ignore any strip failures... |
| 11:18:08 | andersee | TomW: kiddies bothering you? |
| 11:18:17 | TomW | hacked my server. |
| 11:18:43 | TomW | my fault really, I wasn't keeping up with versions. :-( |
| 11:19:33 | BZFlag | andersee: just a - in front of the for ? |
| 11:20:04 | andersee | That or an '|| true' |
| 11:22:05 | andersee | BZFlag: udhcp-0.9.6.tar.gz isn't downloading |
| 11:24:25 | BZFlag | looking |
| 11:24:52 | BZFlag | fixed |
| 11:27:20 | andersee | tuxphone is co in the wrong dir |
| 11:30:02 | BZFlag | yep, mtd too. fixing... |
| 11:34:11 | BZFlag | k, anything broken now? |
| 11:36:26 | andersee | lemme try to finish the build |
| 11:37:03 | andersee | I think I will put out a uclibc pre-relese this afternoon to get some more testing going. |
| 11:37:20 | andersee | k, it finished. |
| 11:37:53 | andersee | hmm. build isn't .cvsignored |
| 11:38:05 | BZFlag | you fixing? |
| 11:38:31 | BZFlag | beat ya |
| 11:39:14 | andersee | I need to flash this thing to my phone now and see if it works... |
| 11:39:52 | BZFlag | and removed the old dirs and files as well... |
| 11:40:15 | BZFlag | heh, that would be nice. that's how all this started for me. I needed to update a phone at work. |
| 11:40:25 | BZFlag | I guess I'll flash tomorrow. |
| 11:42:16 | andersee | 2 secs. |
| 11:42:25 | andersee | Lemme flash mine, then I'm going to sleep. |
| 11:43:32 | andersee | Was it your intention to have tuxscreen-image.jffs2 and tuxscreen-kernel under build? |
| 11:43:41 | TomW | andersee: Sleep? Other people sleep? |
| 11:45:52 | andersee | BZFlag: flashing 2.4.18... |
| 11:46:00 | andersee | TomW: I try... |
| 11:46:23 | andersee | TomW: Then my kids come and attack me... |
| 11:46:26 | TomW | andersee: Just another hour or so and I will have my server back up. |
| 11:51:07 | BZFlag | andersee: yes. blob, kernel and jffs2 are in build/ |
| 11:51:18 | BZFlag | so you can just rm -rf build;make if you like. |
| 11:52:17 | andersee | Makes doing 'make distclean' easy... rm -rf build sources/dl |
| 11:52:28 | andersee | Flashing ramdisk... |
| 11:53:37 | BZFlag | yepper. |
| 11:55:48 | andersee | So does picogui work now? |
| 11:56:22 | andersee | As I recall, microwindows still isn't ready for the new touchscreen interface... How about picogui? |
| 11:58:22 | BZFlag | should be. |
| 11:58:29 | BZFlag | "make picogui" ;-) |
| 11:59:16 | BZFlag | well, cvs up first. |
| 12:01:24 | andersee | BZFlag: Image + kernel both work |
| 12:02:28 | BZFlag | sweet! |
| 12:02:37 | BZFlag | fixing picogui make now... |
| 12:03:08 | andersee | I should have used the uclibc daily snapshot (to test it). Maybe later today. |
| 12:04:33 | BZFlag | well... pico has some leaks. it tries to use system includes etc. |
| 12:05:52 | andersee | Guess we'll need to kick scanline |
| 12:06:09 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 12:06:48 | andersee | Well, I'm off to get some sleep |
| 12:06:53 | andersee | night |
| 12:07:16 | andersee | is away: I'm busy |
| 12:08:02 | BZFlag | me too. cya |
| 14:49:15 | signal11 | red hat's identd is massively hosed, eh |
| 15:03:43 | signal11 | ah much better |
| 15:21:56 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:11:59) |
| 15:22:55 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Microwindows is ready for the new touchscreen interface |
| 15:23:50 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:26:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: man i was just thinking on the way in that i sure wish there was more development of pixil going on |
| 15:28:03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I wish there was more pixil development happening too |
| 15:28:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but our new big thing is Set Top Boxes, and with only three people, its hard to hit everything |
| 15:30:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i hear ya |
| 15:36:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: x86 based STB's? |
| 15:37:06 | Morn | morning everyone |
| 15:37:12 | Morn | sorry I've been kinda quiet recently |
| 15:38:25 | Morn | I thought Microwindows has the new TS stuff already? |
| 15:38:28 | Morn | am I mistaken? |
| 15:39:07 | prpplague | Morn: morn |
| 15:39:20 | Morn | hi |
| 15:39:31 | Morn | I'm building buildroot-tux from cvs right now |
| 15:39:44 | Morn | was hopping for a working microwindows (I guess I was wrong) |
| 15:41:45 | Morn | prpplague: want to come over for dinner? I'm making homemade PA Dutch chicken potpie |
| 15:41:54 | Morn | it's a wonderful meal |
| 15:42:01 | Morn | I make the noodles from scratch |
| 15:43:08 | prpplague | Morn: sounds great, never PA Dutch style before |
| 15:43:15 | prpplague | s/never/never had |
| 15:44:10 | Morn | well it's not a crust like most people think |
| 15:44:30 | Morn | it's more of a stew like substance |
| 15:44:40 | Morn | takes me the better part of a day to make |
| 15:48:05 | prpplague | Morn: sounds good |
| 15:56:49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: www.vtmt.com |
| 15:57:12 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: check the mailing list, the right patches are out there, but the guy who did them is to lazy to update buildroot |
| 15:57:23 | jacques | heh |
| 16:04:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey what about the wasabi? is that available? |
| 16:04:52 | jacques | wasaaaaabi |
| 16:04:53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm not sure..... I've seen one |
| 16:05:14 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: sadly, when we got the prototype in the mail, we were walking around the office all day doing that |
| 16:05:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that vt100 box is kinda ugly |
| 16:05:23 | jacques | LOL |
| 16:05:24 | CosmicPenguin | "Hey, are you working on the wasssabiiii?" |
| 16:05:42 | jacques | waSSaaaaaabi |
| 16:05:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that thing is so tiny.... |
| 16:06:05 | CosmicPenguin | Our artists renditions usually have it velcroed to the side of the TV |
| 16:06:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya thats what i see |
| 16:07:17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its designed to be a very out of sight and out of mind type of box. All the good stuff happens on screen |
| 16:07:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what is the 700 and 900 like? |
| 16:07:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what about i/o? |
| 16:07:59 | CosmicPenguin | The 900 is a pretty good box. NSC Geode SC1200, Tiva chip, Sigma Designs MPEG decoder |
| 16:08:06 | CosmicPenguin | It can do VGA, NTSC and PAL |
| 16:08:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm thinking thin client for POS |
| 16:08:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Ahh... |
| 16:08:51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: The VTXXX boxes are settop boxes, you would be more interested in the webpad line |
| 16:09:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya that too, but for $150 i'd be interested in a STB |
| 16:10:00 | CosmicPenguin | Man, that STB stuff is going to be very cool when it takes off |
| 16:15:02 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 hours, 7 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Thu Mar 14 12:07:16 2002] |
| 16:15:02 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 16:16:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think i could get an eval of the vt-100 from these guys? or even a wasabi? |
| 16:23:53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lemme see |
| 16:26:23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the vt-100 isn't in production yet, and I haven't heard about the wasabi |
| 16:27:05 | CosmicPenguin | but you can call them up and talk to a guy named Troy Hand. Tell him that we sent you |
| 16:27:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: will do |
| 16:48:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: troy is busy right now, but he said he'd give a call later today |
| 16:51:57 | pmisfit | hallooo! anyone successfully built 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1? |
| 16:56:14 | pmisfit | ehrm, guess not. oh, well. |
| 16:57:02 | prpplague | pmisfit: sorry dude, kinda quite today |
| 16:57:02 | pmisfit | goes back to deducing why free_dma is defined twice |
| 16:57:25 | pmisfit | prpplague: ya, looks like. bummer. |
| 16:58:58 | pmisfit | prpplague: thanks for answering, at least. nice to know there's intelligent life out there. |
| 17:01:46 | prpplague | pmisfit: who said anything about intelligent? |
| 17:03:26 | prpplague | speaking of intelligence, mallum has arrived |
| 17:04:26 | mallum | heh |
| 17:14:01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just got off the phone with troy |
| 17:14:12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all i got to say is "holy cow" |
| 17:14:25 | Morn | the buildroot from cvs seems broken |
| 17:14:40 | Morn | and my make skills aren't up to fixing it :-( |
| 17:15:57 | Morn | well, I'll try lunch then come back and look |
| 17:16:00 | pmisfit | Morn: wrestling with that one myself |
| 17:16:14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: why holy cow? |
| 17:16:16 | Morn | pmisfit: the end of file error? |
| 17:16:33 | pmisfit | Morn: not yet, but thanks for the warning ;-) |
| 17:16:51 | pmisfit | Morn: i'm still dealing with the "C" stuff... conflicts from my changes |
| 17:16:58 | Morn | ah |
| 17:17:12 | Morn | well, lunch calls |
| 17:17:17 | Morn | is away: lunch time... |
| 17:18:28 | mallum | I nearly baught a book on win32 api today |
| 17:19:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cost+power, they are going to be swamped with orders |
| 17:19:50 | pmisfit | mallum: glad you stopped before the damage was done. that's good ;-) |
| 17:20:23 | mallum | I wanted to see how similiar it was/wasnt to xlib |
| 17:20:23 | mallum | I did want to pay 50 quid to find that out though ... |
| 17:20:23 | mallum | s/did/didn't/ |
| 17:21:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I hope so |
| 17:21:07 | pmisfit | mallum: hmmm. how similar is it? |
| 17:21:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the wasabi looks nice |
| 17:21:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: much better than the aquapad if the specs are right |
| 17:24:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: from what I've seen, the wasabi is very nice |
| 17:24:43 | jacques | waSSaaaaaabi |
| 17:24:53 | pattieja | that stuff's good! |
| 17:24:59 | pattieja | really clears your sinuses |
| 17:25:03 | jacques | i love it |
| 17:25:21 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... I want sushi now in the worst way |
| 17:25:22 | pattieja | I had it for the first time, about a month ago |
| 17:25:27 | pattieja | eww |
| 17:25:31 | pattieja | hehe |
| 17:25:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can you get sushi in SLC? |
| 17:26:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - we actually can get pretty good stuff... its expensive though |
| 17:27:22 | pmisfit | is away: back to work |
| 17:32:26 | mallum | pmisfit: Didn't get enough time to really look .... |
| 17:32:26 | mallum | pmisfit: I noticed all the types had wierd names though |
| 17:32:56 | Morn | misses sushi in NYC |
| 17:33:02 | Morn | it used to be so easy to get |
| 17:33:13 | Morn | around here it is almost impossible |
| 17:36:44 | prpplague | i can get something looks like sushi about a 1/2 mile from at the bait shack |
| 17:37:18 | Morn | ack! |
| 17:38:05 | pattieja | sushi's raw fish, right? |
| 17:39:21 | mallum | I hate sushi |
| 17:39:27 | Morn | I love it |
| 17:39:33 | mallum | my cat likes it though |
| 17:39:39 | Morn | some sushi is raw fish, some isn't |
| 17:40:06 | mallum | I went to some crazy sushi place in palo alto once |
| 17:40:15 | mallum | the sushi wasn't like it is in England |
| 17:40:25 | mallum | it had avacardo and stuff in it |
| 17:41:03 | Morn | that would be california roll |
| 17:41:03 | mallum | everyone was drinking and standing on the tables |
| 17:50:07 | Morn | is back (gone 00:32:50) |
| 17:52:08 | prpplague | mallum: ya i'd go for some vindaloo and a lager over sushi |
| 17:52:39 | pmisfit | is back (gone 00:25:17) |
| 17:52:46 | pmisfit | Morn: found it. |
| 17:52:59 | Morn | cool |
| 17:53:23 | pmisfit | Morn: Index: Makefile |
| 17:53:23 | pmisfit | =================================================================== |
| 17:53:23 | pmisfit | RCS file: /cvsroot/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/Makefile,v |
| 17:53:23 | pmisfit | retrieving revision 1.114 |
| 17:53:23 | pmisfit | diff -u -r1.114 Makefile |
| 17:53:24 | pmisfit | --- Makefile 14 Mar 2002 11:57:46 -0000 1.114 |
| 17:53:26 | pmisfit | +++ Makefile 14 Mar 2002 17:54:39 -0000 |
| 17:53:28 | pmisfit | @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ |
| 17:53:30 | pmisfit | TUXPHONE_DIR=$(BUILD_DIR)/tuxphone |
| 17:53:31 | pmisfit | |
| 17:53:33 | pmisfit | $(TUXPHONE_DIR)/tuxphone.c: |
| 17:53:35 | pmisfit | - (cd $(BUILD_DIR ; cvs co tuxphone) |
| 17:53:38 | pmisfit | + (cd $(TUXPHONE_DIR) ; cvs co tuxphone) |
| 17:53:39 | pmisfit | |
| 17:53:41 | pmisfit | $(TUXPHONE_DIR)/tuxphone: $(TUXPHONE_DIR)/tuxphone.c |
| 17:53:44 | pmisfit | make CROSS="$(TARGET_CROSS)" -C $(TUXPHONE_DIR) |
| 17:53:46 | mallum | prpplague: yeah definetly .... turkish food is my current fave |
| 17:53:59 | Morn | ok, let me try that |
| 17:54:11 | pmisfit | Morn: good luck. |
| 17:57:53 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: help |
| 17:59:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: vindaloo? Thats it, you made me way too hugry |
| 17:59:33 | CosmicPenguin | hungry even |
| 18:03:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you got good indian food there in SLC too? |
| 18:03:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Yeah, we have a place called the Bombay House which is excellent |
| 18:03:44 | CosmicPenguin | The Garlic naan is to die for |
| 18:05:06 | prpplague | considers moving to SLC |
| 18:05:06 | | BZflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 5 hours, 57 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: me too. cya [Thu Mar 14 12:08:02 2002] |
| 18:05:06 | pmisfit | ibot: seen BZflag |
| 18:07:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: don't be rash. The naan is good, the beer is not nearly as good |
| 18:07:41 | prpplague | wonders how much embedded work he can do during the ski lift ride up..... |
| 18:07:53 | pmisfit | happy dance. buildroot-tux works. now on to the merges... |
| 18:21:47 | CosmicPenguin | man, this CBS website sucks! |
| 18:48:17 | pmisfit | is away: food |
| 19:18:59 | Morn | is away: doing something useful |
| 19:59:24 | BZFlag | welcome to irc.openplits.net |
| 19:59:46 | BZFlag | er opensplits. I guess it's not funny if you have a typo. |
| 20:56:06 | andersen_ | is back (gone 03:15:12) |
| 23:00:30 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: tried the new C++ toolchain yet? |
| 23:41:39 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: not yet, i've gotten distracted |
| 23:41:54 | CosmicPenguin | I'm kind of a chicken running around with my head cut off right now |
| 23:43:21 | prpplague | wooo doggy look at the chicken go! |
| 23:53:29 | CosmicPenguin | woo doggy... now there's a Texas expression if I have ever heard one |
| 23:54:47 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:56:06 | andersee | prpplague: got a few to try the new C++ toolchain? |
| 23:56:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've got a full volcabulary of Texas expressions, hihowruu, get that over yonder, aryagonnagototown |
| 23:56:41 | prpplague | andersee: negative, got a crissis in the bahamas going on right now |
| 23:56:55 | CosmicPenguin | ahh... does Crissis have a sister? |
| 23:56:59 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 23:57:01 | andersee | Can I help? On site? |
| 23:57:11 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:57:44 | prpplague | andersee: i was suppose to go, but.... |