| 00:00:06 | CosmicPenguin | "Dammit, Jim, I'm a programmer, not a tech writer!" |
| 00:00:41 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: heh ;) |
| 00:01:14 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: Its pretty easy to write, not so easy to actually process it seems ... |
| 00:04:47 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 3 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying: ahh [Tue Mar 12 20:57:18 2002] |
| 00:04:47 | fontenot | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:08:42 | andersee | fontenot: howdy |
| 00:09:21 | fontenot | hi andersee! |
| 00:09:25 | fontenot | today is my lucky day |
| 00:09:40 | fontenot | some guy in nigeria wants to give me free money(TM) !!! |
| 00:09:52 | fontenot | for only doing a few illegal things |
| 00:10:06 | fontenot | andersee: how's it going? |
| 00:10:48 | fontenot | this is bad because they somehow got my work address |
| 00:10:50 | fontenot | :-( |
| 00:10:54 | fontenot | not my spam address |
| 00:11:15 | andersee | fontenot: heh. I must be veyr lucky then. I could pay off the national debt with all the nigerian money I've been offered. :) |
| 00:11:25 | fontenot | whooo :-) |
| 00:11:38 | fontenot | now i acn finally get that ferrari!!! |
| 00:11:42 | fontenot | wheee!! |
| 00:11:55 | fontenot | biab |
| 00:12:01 | andersee | fontenot: I am continually surprised at the variety and number of deceased but wealthy nigerians who want to share |
| 00:25:46 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: heres my docbook efforts -> http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/ |
| 00:36:25 | andersee | mallum: that soft keyboard needs a face lift |
| 00:40:17 | mallum | andersee: soft keyboard ? xkbd ? |
| 00:41:33 | fontenot | andersee: :-) |
| 00:48:03 | scanline | is away: lab |
| 00:59:46 | mallum | andersee: I gotta get matchbox running on the tux, not sure if X server + libs will fit though ... |
| 01:06:37 | andersee | dunno. |
| 01:06:44 | andersee | Guess it depends on the pics. |
| 01:07:03 | mallum | pics ? |
| 01:07:06 | andersee | Since tux uses jffs2 it does get to compress things a bit... |
| 01:07:24 | mallum | I think xlib is the real problem |
| 01:07:30 | andersee | How many and how large the needed images are.... |
| 01:07:52 | andersee | xlib should compress reasonably well. |
| 01:07:59 | andersee | worth trying anyway. |
| 01:08:54 | mallum | Grandaddy getty's is meant to be hacking that smaller, but nothing happened yet ... I think he's busy with other stuff |
| 01:09:27 | mallum | apparently xlib has like .5Mb of used unicode data |
| 01:10:15 | mallum | s/used/unused/ |
| 01:10:17 | andersee | Can't you compile X w/o i18n? |
| 01:10:46 | mallum | who knows, I've never really understood them host.def files |
| 01:11:47 | mallum | I'll build X tommorow on my ARM box against uclibc, turn off everything I can and see what sizes I get |
| 01:12:24 | mallum | whats the biggest app thats been compiled with uclibc currently ? |
| 01:12:40 | andersee | I should have a nice juicy new toolchain for you to use. :) |
| 01:14:08 | jacques | perks up. |
| 01:14:13 | jacques | new toolchain? |
| 01:14:33 | andersee | heh |
| 01:14:57 | andersee | Should be ready for wider use by later this evening. |
| 01:15:12 | jacques | oh, so I'm "wider use" eh? |
| 01:15:16 | andersee | I want to make a 2.95.x toolchain also. |
| 01:15:27 | andersee | lol |
| 01:15:32 | jacques | :-) |
| 01:15:41 | mallum | jacques: hi there |
| 01:15:57 | andersee | Actually, if things go well I hope to cut a uClibc release, and release toolchains concurrently. |
| 01:15:59 | jacques | mallum: I think it might be possible to build x withouth i18n |
| 01:16:05 | mallum | jacques: when you built tinyX, did you build the libs too ? |
| 01:16:11 | jacques | mallum: yepper |
| 01:16:27 | jacques | we did some size calculations a couple months ago |
| 01:17:50 | jacques | looking... |
| 01:20:47 | jacques | dammit somebody rebooted my compile machine |
| 01:24:22 | jacques | and stole my compile machine monitor |
| 01:24:31 | jacques | so i have no idea what its ip ddress is |
| 01:24:48 | mallum | ack I hate that |
| 01:25:28 | jacques | anyway I think we determined that x server _ libs should fit in 2MB compressed |
| 01:25:34 | jacques | - == + |
| 01:25:40 | jacques | _ == + |
| 01:25:53 | jacques | but not libXt |
| 01:26:26 | mallum | yeah ditch Xt |
| 01:26:29 | jacques | libXt is huge and deprecated |
| 01:26:39 | jacques | yeah |
| 01:27:10 | mallum | did you include extension libs like Shape and Test ? |
| 01:28:54 | jacques | yepper - they are small anyway |
| 01:29:03 | jacques | xrender |
| 01:29:09 | jacques | rabdr |
| 01:29:10 | mallum | cool |
| 01:29:11 | jacques | randr |
| 01:29:13 | jacques | I meant |
| 01:29:16 | jacques | things like that |
| 01:30:06 | mallum | jacques: you using matchbox on you ipaq ? |
| 01:30:29 | jacques | mallum: heh I havent used my ipaq for much lately - got a 147 day uptime though |
| 01:31:03 | mallum | jacques: yeah I saw that ;) |
| 01:31:10 | jacques | still going |
| 01:32:17 | mallum | jacques: I plugged all the debian builds scripts in for intimate users ... and the built deb passes lintian ;) |
| 01:33:00 | mallum | jacques: http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/index.html |
| 01:33:36 | jacques | mallum: sounds great :-) |
| 01:33:46 | jacques | wow - docs! |
| 01:34:55 | mallum | jacques: yeah Im still suprised at my self I managed that.... |
| 01:35:26 | jacques | mallum: I'm impressed |
| 01:35:41 | mallum | jacques: stay that way - dont look at the source ;) |
| 01:36:23 | jacques | hee |
| 01:37:23 | mallum | jacques: if you want to build a deb from it ( for intimate ), check it out of cvs ( hh.org/apps.matchbox ), run autoconfigure.sh in src dir, then dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, and it'll spit out a shiny deb |
| 01:37:41 | mallum | (hopefully) |
| 01:38:05 | mallum | andersee: Are you a debian developer ? |
| 01:38:54 | jacques | :-) |
| 02:21:35 | jacques | what's wrong with this picture: |
| 02:21:39 | jacques | DSL starts with a little biology. The frequencies that the human ear can hear are in the lowest end of the sound spectrum, from around 20hz up to around 4,000hz. The frequencies at which DSL services operate begin at 10,000hz, meaning DSL noise is out of our range of hearing. |
| 02:48:13 | jeffrey_ | Hi,All |
| 02:48:19 | jeffrey_ | anyone know the SHARP LM8V31 LCD pin define ? |
| 02:48:50 | jeffrey_ | or have the datasheet? |
| 02:50:48 | sjm | jeffrey_: http://smaecom1.sharpsec.com/eprise/main/FldrSharp/Techpub/productfocus/publications/displays/passive/matrix/tec_prodbrief_lm8v31.pdf |
| 02:52:47 | | lcd is, like, http://dragons.espsw.net/arm-bin/lcd.c or binary is at http://dragons.espsw.net/arm-bin/lcd |
| 02:52:47 | sjm | ibot: lcd |
| 02:52:59 | | sjm: sorry... |
| 02:52:59 | sjm | ibot: lm8v31 |
| 02:53:09 | | OK, sjm. |
| 02:53:09 | sjm | ibot lm8v31 is http://smaecom1.sharpsec.com/eprise/main/FldrSharp/Techpub/productfocus/publications/displays/passive/matrix/tec_prodbrief_lm8v31.pdf |
| 02:53:21 | | lm8v31 is http://smaecom1.sharpsec.com/eprise/main/FldrSharp/Techpub/productfocus/publications/displays/passive/matrix/tec_prodbrief_lm8v31.pdf |
| 02:53:21 | sjm | ibot: lm8v31 |
| 02:54:17 | jeffrey_ | sjm: thx .. ;) |
| 02:54:45 | sjm | jeffrey_: Hmmmm... No pinout though.... |
| 02:56:33 | jeffrey_ | sjm: just no way to get .. ;< |
| 02:56:52 | sjm | jeffrey_: http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/LM8V31/lm8v31.html has the pinout |
| 02:59:24 | jeffrey_ | sjm: Okay.. thanx. |
| 04:06:10 | prpplague_home | howdy all |
| 04:06:24 | prpplague_home | CosmicPenguin: working late again? |
| 09:55:50 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 8 hours, 39 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: Actually, if things go well I hope to cut a uClibc release, and release toolchains concurrently. [Wed Mar 13 01:15:57 2002] |
| 09:55:50 | fontenot | ibot: seen andersee |
| 14:55:49 | ctr | is away: shower |
| 15:25:58 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:33:29 | mallum | hi prpplague |
| 16:03:22 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 16:04:28 | mallum | mornin |
| 16:17:53 | prpplague | mallum: i kid you not, i sat down no less than 10 times yesterday to work on matchbox and everytime the phone rang with a moron on the other end |
| 16:20:12 | mallum | prpplague: heh ;) |
| 17:36:15 | mallum | is away: taking a break |
| 18:27:17 | mallum | is back (gone 00:51:03) |
| 19:32:57 | ssoucek | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:33:00 | ssoucek | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 19:45:17 | as | Evnin all. |
| 19:49:15 | AlHazWork | hiya as |
| 19:53:19 | as | Alhaz :] |
| 19:53:42 | as | My tuxscreens arrived, I'll be running them as soon as I get the power supply sorted. |
| 19:54:49 | AlHazWork | congrats :) |
| 19:56:13 | as | Interesting PFI problem, do you happen to know if the pulses are absent if they still work? |
| 19:57:42 | AlHazWork | not i |
| 19:58:21 | as | ITs all part of the fun. |
| 19:58:52 | as | I see someone on the net has designed a replacement power supply. So if I have trouble I'll copy that design. |
| 20:04:59 | AlHazWork | *nod* |
| 20:06:55 | CosmicPenguin | Is there some special tinyX configuration setting to enable VT switching? |
| 20:08:44 | fontenot | CosmicPenguin: ctrl-alt-f? does not work? |
| 20:09:16 | CosmicPenguin | fontenot: It does, but then I loose the screen when I switch back |
| 20:09:26 | CosmicPenguin | Its all done with ioctls, but I can't figure out how to enable it |
| 20:09:33 | fontenot | when you switch back, what happens? |
| 20:09:45 | fontenot | blank screen? |
| 20:09:54 | CosmicPenguin | No, the console |
| 20:13:27 | AlHazWork | anybody else notice that pageup on the wireless keyboard doesn't work? |
| 20:41:58 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm... the VT switch stuff is coded up, it just doesn't seem to work 100% |
| 20:42:03 | CosmicPenguin | Mabye thats a busybox issue |
| 21:37:18 | prpplague | [trebb]: howdy |
| 21:37:23 | prpplague | [trebb]: how goes it? |
| 21:37:57 | [trebb] | prpplague: tired, but fine :) |
| 21:38:29 | [trebb] | i'm still strugling with the familiar distro... |
| 21:44:50 | [trebb] | ibout: spacecoaster? |
| 21:44:56 | | spacecoaster is a cool dude and managed to get the touchscreen playing fair or not for small children, as they might cut themselves |
| 21:44:56 | [trebb] | ibot: spacecoaster? |
| 21:45:40 | | spacecoaster was last seen on #tuxscreen 13 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: prpplague: nope, before my time [Wed Feb 27 21:46:07 2002] |
| 21:45:40 | prpplague | ibot: seen spacecoaster |
| 21:51:35 | [trebb] | prpplague: I've seen at the TuxScreen WiKi that spacecoaster has familiar running and qt and qpe and, and, and... |
| 21:54:34 | [trebb] | maybe I should molester him... :) |
| 22:09:02 | AlHazWork | I have familiar running, aside from the antialiased rxvt i hate it |
| 22:16:32 | [trebb] | AlHazWork: Oh.. :) Actually I'm looking for a platform to run QPE. So I need something with c++ support. |
| 22:17:08 | [trebb] | I thought familiar is the easiest way !? |
| 22:18:19 | AlHazWork | *shrug* |
| 22:19:04 | [trebb] | :) |
| 22:19:56 | [trebb] | I want to benefit from all the cool stuff coming out for the zaurus! (My cool stuff included, of course ;) |
| 22:25:01 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know is spacecoaster actually got QPE going... there is a size problem there |
| 22:28:38 | [trebb] | CosmicPenguin: even with CF or NFS storage? |
| 22:51:11 | CosmicPenguin | No... but what fun is that? |
| 23:27:55 | BZFlag | starts hacking buildroot again... |
| 23:40:05 | [trebb] | bedtime... |
| 23:40:15 | mallum | is away: tv.... |