| 00:00:12 | derwood | hi there... anybody willing to give a general overview of how i might build in support for the Aironet 4800 card? |
| 00:01:18 | Leno | derwood: Is the Aironet 4800 a 3.3V PCMCIA card? |
| 00:01:32 | derwood | good question lemme see if i can find out. |
| 00:05:42 | AeroSpace | derwood: The better question is, is it a CardBus card or 16bit pcmcia? CardBus isn't supported. |
| 00:10:28 | derwood | it appears to be a 5v card... i'm still looking to see if it is CardBus |
| 00:11:36 | derwood | the technical sheet refers to PC Card 32-bit |
| 00:13:39 | {FEAR} | hi |
| 00:13:56 | AeroSpace | derwood: Samething, sorry, get a different card. |
| 00:14:08 | derwood | doah. sucks to be me. |
| 00:14:23 | derwood | any news of success out there with a particular card? |
| 00:14:36 | TomW | derwood: DLink DE-660 |
| 00:14:49 | derwood | right on. thanks. |
| 00:14:50 | AeroSpace | derwood: Did you already have the card, or did you go out and buy it? |
| 00:14:55 | derwood | already had it. |
| 00:15:08 | TomW | AeroSpace: I already had the card and it worked. |
| 00:15:17 | derwood | the DLink card? |
| 00:15:56 | TomW | sorry, got confused.. |
| 00:15:59 | AeroSpace | TomW: I was asking derwood about his Aironet 4800 card. |
| 00:16:04 | TomW | mumbles to self. |
| 00:16:45 | derwood | ah so... so any new of success out there with a 802.11b card? |
| 00:17:44 | TomW | I was curious about that as well (80s.11b) |
| 00:18:13 | AeroSpace | TomW: Did you follow John Laur's e-mail, I don't know what chip does what? What's being support for sound and to where? |
| 00:20:03 | TomW | Well... The UCB1200 chip is a CODEC for the phone line and has one for audio. We know that the audio CODEC is working as the TuxScreen makes beeps. But the problem is that in order to get the modem working, you have to use the DSP chip (wheaties). |
| 00:22:00 | TomW | The CODEC in the UCB1200 is basically a fancy A/D & D/A system. In order to make sense of the tonal strean (V.90), you need the DSP to crunch numbers. John has a problem where he couldn't direct (connect) the sound of the telephone circuit and gate it into the DSP (wheaties). |
| 00:22:48 | derwood | fyi... http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/TUXPAD/tuxpad.html mentions the LinkSys WaveLAN card. Suppose I'll get one of those and see where it takes me... |
| 00:23:48 | AeroSpace | TomW: Concidering how much I ever use a modem I'm not too concerned about that part. Can we record from the mic and send to the speaker phone (and or the telephone headset) without it having the phone off the hook? |
| 00:24:08 | TomW | This is what the list-server & IRC is about, you spend (waste) $50 on hardware to see if it works, then I waste $50, then AeroSpace wastes $100... |
| 00:25:12 | derwood | so your suggesting I post to the listserv prior to parting with cash? |
| 00:25:33 | TomW | AeroSpace: dunno, I don't have a lot of experience with the TuxScreen. John seemed to think it was possible in his last email, didn't he? I want the modem working, no sense in having hardware that doesn't work. |
| 00:26:17 | TomW | derwood: definately, someone else may have tried what you are thinking of and can tell you what did / didn't work. Not everyone is on the IRC. |
| 00:26:30 | derwood | will do. thanks. |
| 00:28:30 | TomW | derwood: goto Tuxscreen.net, click on 'wiki', then put 802.11b in the search, when it comes up, you click on the left hand side of the "titles". Some people have been tinkering with 802.11b already |
| 00:29:00 | derwood | saw the same wavelan post at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=76925&forum_id=2321 |
| 00:31:26 | AeroSpace | TomW: I wasn't following John very well, he seemed to be contradicting himself. I'm not really caring about the modem or using it as a phone (I have one line and two modems excluding the tuxs). I would be more interested if we could speed up processing by having the dsp do floating point calculations. |
| 00:33:47 | TomW | AeroSpace: you can't, you have no access to the DSP processor's internal software. It is burned into PROM, AFAI can tell, we can only talk to it via the SIB bus. We can send/receive commands/data via that bus, but cannot upload program into it. Although, the wheaties card does have a connector lableled JTAG. |
| 00:34:48 | AeroSpace | TomW: It was a thought, it would probably be a pain to program anyway. |
| 00:35:09 | TomW | AeroSpace: There are blank chip pads on the card, most PROM based processors do have the means to run an external prom / emulator. Most times it is a pin that is either grounded / pulled high. |
| 00:36:11 | TomW | AeroSpace: Never done any "real" dsp, most of the stuff I have done is fairly simple stuff with filtering signals, debouncing noisy keys... |
| 00:37:00 | TomW | I'm still puzzling over what Thumb vs. ARM code is. |
| 00:37:48 | Lenolium | Thumb is a variation of ARM machine code that gives you a better ratio of instructions / bits |
| 00:37:49 | AeroSpace | Thumb is just a stripped down ARM processor if I know what you are talking about. They just left out instructions and whatnot. |
| 00:38:00 | TomW | Also, this concept of Virtual vs. Physical addressing. Now why would you need to virtualize where you put a Flash memory? |
| 00:38:02 | Lenolium | (IIRC) |
| 00:39:09 | TomW | Can you just arbitrarily intersperse Thumb and ARM instructions at will? There is no special "mode" or anything. I understand that Thumb code runs much faster... |
| 00:39:25 | AeroSpace | TomW: So you can keep non-kernel people out of the flash and when you say load address zero you get a page fault (for debugging) instead of the boot section of the flash. |
| 00:40:15 | AeroSpace | TomW: I understood the Thumb code is a subset, so you can run Thumb code on a ARM cpu, but not the other way around depending on what instructions get generated. |
| 00:40:22 | TomW | AeroSpace: Well.. That sounds like a supervisory state of operation, don't they have a Supervisor mode in the ARM? |
| 00:41:54 | TomW | AeroSpace: Hmmm... You mean, there is NO supervisor (protected areas) mode in the ARM, so to achieve the same result of protecting ARM config registers, they run a Virtualization mode? |
| 00:42:06 | AeroSpace | TomW: But the kernel would run in the highest access mode. The kernel used to run without being virtual, at some point they decided it would be better for it to be virtual. |
| 00:42:33 | TomW | AeroSpace: you mean Russel + Company did. ;-) |
| 00:43:06 | TomW | AeroSpace: sounds like a question for the ARM-Kernel list. |
| 00:43:36 | AeroSpace | TomW: I don't about that reference, but the cpu would have to have a supervisor mode, otherwise you could access everything from userland, which wouldn't be good. |
| 00:44:29 | TomW | AeroSpace: Agreed. But, I have come from working with uClinux and there we run everything in supervisor mode (on 68K) cause it doesn't have an MMU. |
| 00:44:47 | TomW | AeroSpace: I'll post to the ARM mailing list. |
| 00:48:19 | AeroSpace | TomW: SA-1100 has a 32 entry TLB for MMU operation (from the Intel doc), |
| 00:48:34 | TomW | AeroSpace: right. |
| 00:49:57 | TomW | AeroSpace: I would expect that with a small table, that when you context switch, some of the MMU registers get reloaded to reflect the current ownership / mapping of memory / io. |
| 00:50:46 | TomW | AeroSpace: some of the MMU table entries are for the use by the kerenl, others are for context switching when "swapping" in a user / process. |
| 00:51:07 | AeroSpace | TomW: And a MMU would pretty much be worthless if everything was running as 'supervisor' mode. |
| 00:51:36 | TomW | AeroSpace: Yup! understood. |
| 00:51:52 | TomW | AeroSpace: do you know the kernel internals? |
| 00:52:24 | AeroSpace | TomW: I've dealt with them, but nothing architecture specific. |
| 00:52:25 | TomW | AeroSpace: ... well, worked in the kernel, nobody knows the kernel. :-) |
| 00:53:12 | TomW | AeroSpace: I have been messing around in there for about two years. I understand some of the stuff. Most of it I am still wrestling with. |
| 00:53:17 | AeroSpace | I've also worked on the HP-UX kernel. A bit different. |
| 00:54:03 | TomW | AeroSpace: Yuk! That looks good on a resume, eh? Lots of work there!? |
| 00:55:06 | TomW | AeroSpace: I have done a *lot* of proprietary O/S work. Linux is so much fun to hack into. It is a great starting point to build a system from. |
| 00:55:26 | AeroSpace | TomW: About 9months. I was involved in some ugly race conditions, that would be causing crashes on the next MPI release. |
| 00:56:39 | AeroSpace | It is really nice to have the source code. There I basically had the source to the kernel and that was it. I think I had access to some of the network card drivers. I' not sure what else. |
| 00:57:54 | file | ooh - The Simpsons |
| 00:58:05 | file | eats cookies and crackers |
| 00:58:46 | AeroSpace | The 2.0 kernel on the alpha is screwed up for SMP. I actually had a race condition on a network card where cpu 0 would be in the interrupt routine, grab a spin lock, get another interrupt from the same device (still cpu 0) and then block on trying to get the spinlock a 2nd time before the first was finished. |
| 00:58:47 | TomW | AeroSpace: I started working seriously with Linux about 5 years ago. I was shocked and pleased to see that my Slackware distro had the source code for the kernel on it! |
| 00:58:48 | file | hi blackwell |
| 00:59:36 | TomW | AeroSpace: LOL, yea, race conditons, don't you just love 'em? |
| 01:00:06 | AeroSpace | I started with slackware then discovered Debian and the concept of packages and haven't gone back. Although since debian's packages use text files and perl it is very slow compared to other systems. |
| 01:00:22 | TomW | AeroSpace: I do hardware as well, I like to say that I am 40% hardware and 60% software == Embedded Systems. |
| 01:00:45 | AeroSpace | TomW: The point was when you are servicing an interrupt you aren't supposed to be called again until you finish. |
| 01:01:22 | TomW | AeroSpace: I stuck with Slackware for about 3 years, then I needed glibc support (Oracle) and I switched to RedHat for a 1.5 years, and now it is Mandrake. |
| 01:01:39 | AeroSpace | I'm basically all software, device driver work gets about as close as I get to hardware, except for my petty projects. |
| 01:01:50 | TomW | AeroSpace: been there, done that: interrupt races. |
| 01:02:50 | AeroSpace | From what I know the kernel is supposed to guarantee that doesn't happen. |
| 01:03:27 | AeroSpace | The later kernels didn't want to boot on that alpha box for whatever reason. |
| 01:04:01 | TomW | AeroSpace: I tried, 7 years ago, to get away from hardware designing when I went consultant. My clients kept asking for new hardware designs and I didn't pick up many software only clients. So... I do what pays me and lets me play with my "toys". |
| 01:05:08 | TomW | AeroSpace: SMP is beyond me, I have no interest in it. All of my stuff is single CPU systems. |
| 01:05:24 | AeroSpace | I have a USB scanner I want to write a Linux driver for. I even have a dump of the windows usb communicating with the scanner, I'm just distracted by other things like getting a job. |
| 01:06:48 | TomW | AeroSpace: I have been so busy! The past 9 months have been a nightmare of work. Nobody wants to hire a body to put in a seat and pay them money all year. Seems like they want to pay me to do the work, then "fire" me until they need me again. |
| 01:08:16 | TomW | AeroSpace: I do have a part-time job. ;-) I work 32 hours a month, get paid $150 a week, plus full medical and all I do is admin linux / windows machines. |
| 01:09:11 | AeroSpace | How convinent. I'm trying to find a job around my area. There are pleanty posted, but I never seem to get any of them. Last year when I was looking for a job out of college I had four companies give me an offer, now I can't even get an interview. |
| 01:09:16 | TomW | AeroSpace: ... fortunately, he has more linux boxes than windoze boxes. |
| 01:10:19 | AeroSpace | TomW: Which boxes do you actually spend more time on? |
| 01:10:23 | TomW | AeroSpace: I did work for the guy for about 4 years, then we entered into an informal agreement. He wanted to get a handle on his costs (to me) and I wanted a base income + medical. His medical plan is awesome! |
| 01:11:39 | AeroSpace | I'm stuck with COBRA until I get another job. |
| 01:12:05 | TomW | AeroSpace: Linux. Only because we are advancing what the linux boxes do. The windoze boxes are in the office and he takes care of them, only calls upon me to help him with the hard stuff. Last job on a linux box was to add an ADSL modem and connect in an Internet camers (AXIS model 2100). |
| 01:12:13 | Lenolium | Anyone know of a NNTP feed of linux-kernel? |
| 01:12:50 | TomW | Lenolium: NNTP? duh, what is that? |
| 01:13:01 | Lenolium | TomW: Usenet |
| 01:14:24 | AeroSpace | I wonder about some of the companies, I mean I never know if I have a chance, or if I'm still in the queue being looked at. I applied two months ago with Seagate and they got back to me last week saying they got my resume and they would contact me if they find something. I don't know what that means. |
| 01:15:00 | TomW | Lenolium: Oh, there are some lists, I was subscribed to the linux-filesystems list a while ago. Sorry, I don't recall how / where I joined. What is it that you are looking for? Maybe if you need ARM kernel stuff then you can join Russell King's ARM-kernel list? |
| 01:15:07 | AeroSpace | Lenolium: You're looking for the linux kernel mailing list? Good luck, NNTP feeds from there have been baned for ages. |
| 01:15:37 | TomW | AeroSpace: too much traffic (storage needs) ;-) |
| 01:16:26 | TomW | Lenolium: I don't think that you will find a newsfeed on that list, too much traffic. You would find list-server access though. |
| 01:17:18 | TomW | Lenolium: just join the list apologize for being a newbie, and ask where the archives are kept. if the archives don't help, ask the question. |
| 01:17:25 | AeroSpace | TomW: Compare to any of the binary NNTP groups, not a chance. I forget what the reason was, but it wasn't bandwdith after all the mailing list maintainers don't care about someone elses nntp bandwdith. |
| 01:17:33 | txlvr | hello all |
| 01:17:49 | TomW | AeroSpace: probably too much spam then. |
| 01:18:54 | txlvr | one quick question...does anyone know how to load new files on to the tuxscreen after linux is loaded |
| 01:18:55 | txlvr | ? |
| 01:18:58 | TomW | TNT is having a Julia Roberts film marathon tonight. Hoo Hoo, Yum! |
| 01:19:21 | AeroSpace | txlvr: uuencode/decode |
| 01:19:38 | TomW | txlvr: do you have the blob installed? |
| 01:19:43 | txlvr | ya |
| 01:19:45 | sjm | txlvr: Got a PCMCIA ethernet card? |
| 01:20:00 | txlvr | it works, I'm just trying to put an image file onto it |
| 01:20:10 | txlvr | not yet....trying to do it all thru serial |
| 01:20:26 | TomW | txlvr: goto http://www.openhardware.net/TuxScreen/, all is explained there. |
| 01:20:43 | TomW | txlvr: look at the "Installing Linux" link. |
| 01:21:09 | txlvr | would I open something up in vi and uuencode a file over to the open buffer? |
| 01:21:19 | txlvr | thx for the link |
| 01:21:31 | TomW | txlvr: it is a boiled down account of what is in the TuxScreen.net Wiki. |
| 01:23:14 | txlvr | viele danke |
| 01:23:27 | txlvr | "many thanks" |
| 01:27:39 | TomW | AeroSpace: send the query into ARM-kernel list about the virtual <--> physical stuff asking why and is there a doc. |
| 01:27:48 | TomW | s/send/sent/ |
| 01:29:15 | txlvr | AeroSpace: How do I uudecode the file once it has been sent to the tuxscreen? |
| 01:29:17 | TomW | AeroSpace: hmmm... I see that they do the same thing in the x96 stuff as well. |
| 01:29:44 | TomW | txlvr: "uuencode tuxscreen-kernel foo > /dev/ttyS0" |
| 01:30:22 | txlvr | I already have the kernel and image loaded |
| 01:30:33 | txlvr | I'm trying to send a gif file to the tuxscreen |
| 01:30:55 | TomW | txlvr: tell blob "download kernel" then switch to another terminal and do "uuencode tuxscreen-kernel foo > /dev/ttyS0" after it finishes, tell blob to "flash kernel". |
| 01:31:34 | TomW | txlvr: Oh, then your question should have been "how do I access the LCD frame buffer". |
| 01:31:35 | sjm | txlvr: try using sz/rz |
| 01:32:24 | sjm | txlvr: run rz on the tux, and use sz on the PC |
| 01:32:42 | txlvr | ok...trying that right now |
| 01:32:50 | txlvr | I apologize for all of these questions...new at this |
| 01:33:14 | TomW | sjm: sz/rz? I don't have that on my system, is that inside some RPM package? |
| 01:33:53 | sjm | TomW: Probably, I don't use rpm packages |
| 01:34:17 | TomW | txlvr: don't mention it, only worry if we don't talk to you. THEN you know you have been asking a lot of stupid questions. I only got my TuxScreen running last week. |
| 01:34:27 | TomW | sjm: Slack? |
| 01:34:42 | TomW | sjm: ;-) |
| 01:35:04 | sjm | TomW: Sort of a mixture of debian and .tgz :) |
| 01:35:05 | TomW | goes looking for his pipe. |
| 01:35:48 | TomW | finds pipe, cannot find tobacco. |
| 01:36:51 | txlvr | <grin> |
| 01:38:04 | TomW | lights his pipe |
| 01:38:28 | txlvr | likes pipe smoke better than all other |
| 01:38:30 | TomW | ok, I am socialable again. |
| 01:38:34 | txlvr | <g> |
| 01:38:55 | txlvr | Y'all know if there is an sz/rz for windows? |
| 01:39:08 | TomW | EEEEHHH? |
| 01:39:23 | txlvr | cringes |
| 01:39:29 | txlvr | working on a friends box |
| 01:39:30 | sjm | txlvr: Use can use pretty much any comms program that has Zmodem compression. |
| 01:39:45 | TomW | txlvr: you counld always set up a PPP link over ttySA0. |
| 01:40:01 | txlvr | hmmmm |
| 01:40:14 | txlvr | I'll give it a whirl in Hyperterm |
| 01:40:27 | AeroSpace | txlvr: does it have z-modem? |
| 01:40:34 | TomW | txlvr: or spring for a DLink DE-660 pcmcia card for about $40 and use nfs / ftp. |
| 01:40:38 | Lenolium | Is PPP faster than SLIP for this kind of a connection? |
| 01:41:25 | TomW | Good question -- see, it has everyone stumped (PPP vs. SLIP). |
| 01:41:52 | TomW | Lenolium: I just never messed with SLIP. |
| 01:42:02 | Lenolium | I think SLIP would be faster, but that's just this gut feeling, without anything to back it up. I just know that PPP has a lot of overhead. |
| 01:42:27 | txlvr | thank you very much for the zmodem tip |
| 01:42:30 | txlvr | that is what did it |
| 01:42:31 | TomW | ethernet, ethernet, ethernet! |
| 01:42:31 | txlvr | :-) |
| 01:42:53 | txlvr | yeah |
| 01:43:01 | txlvr | That is in the works....just need to debug one thing at a time |
| 01:43:02 | sjm | txlvr: sz/rz = send zmodem, receive zmodem :) |
| 01:43:03 | txlvr | :-) |
| 01:43:08 | txlvr | heh heh |
| 01:43:09 | txlvr | ahhh |
| 01:43:12 | txlvr | it is all clear to me |
| 01:44:02 | Lenolium | Some users believe SLIP is faster because the protocol format calls for a packet size that is 3 bytes smaller than a PPP packet. <-- THREE BYTES! Well, I think I know what I'm using! |
| 01:44:27 | TomW | RO |
| 01:44:35 | TomW | ROTFLMFAO |
| 01:45:11 | TomW | right |
| 01:45:33 | TomW | Lenolium: are you a Ham operator? |
| 01:45:42 | Lenolium | TomW: Nope. |
| 01:46:10 | TomW | Lenolium: ok, you wouldn't understand the story then. |
| 01:46:36 | Lenolium | Hey, then I can do NBD over a SLIP line @9600 baud and have the SLOWEST-SWAP-EVER |
| 01:47:05 | TomW | yes, you can ... |
| 01:47:56 | TomW | ... or, you can run uClinux on a Motorola M68EZ328 processor at 1.48 BogoMips. |
| 01:48:40 | TomW | you won't have a swapfile, but you can run real slowly. |
| 01:49:41 | AeroSpace | Lenolium: tried that it didn't work for some reason, I also tried swap over NFS. |
| 01:50:56 | Lenolium | AeroSpace: NBD over SLIP? |
| 01:51:55 | AeroSpace | Lenolium: ppp, same differnce I think, (Network Block Device), I even tried some swap patches without any luck. |
| 01:53:08 | Lenolium | AeroSpace: But SLIP has three less bytes! |
| 01:53:12 | Lenolium | ;) |
| 01:53:20 | TomW | Time to go watch Julia Roberts. G'nite all. |
| 01:57:34 | Lenolium | is buildroot-tux'ing |
| 02:02:58 | txlvr | hmmmm |
| 02:03:08 | txlvr | the image viewer is not liking the gif or jpgs |
| 02:04:01 | Lenolium | what image viewer? |
| 02:04:18 | txlvr | the one that comes with the standard open windows install... |
| 02:04:27 | txlvr | hold up a sec....trying something |
| 02:05:49 | Lenolium | Wow. Neato. That was a pretty low-flying blackhawk |
| 02:16:42 | txlvr | thank you for all the help y'all gave us |
| 02:16:44 | txlvr | see ya later |
| 02:25:33 | Lenolium | Does anyone know if picogui works with the tuxscreen touchscreen and newer kernels? |
| 02:26:01 | AeroSpace | Lenolium: Someone was saying the 2.4.7 kernel worked. |
| 02:39:46 | Lenolium | gaar. Well, why can't I ever get a working java plugin in linux |
| 03:25:00 | scanline | is back (gone 07:36:16) |
| 04:05:14 | Lenolium | Wow. I finally have a working java plugin. |
| 14:21:01 | Morn | morning |
| 15:05:08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you alive this morning? |
| 15:07:27 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 64:56:22) |
| 15:07:43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Just got in |
| 15:11:02 | bhima | yawns. |
| 15:11:04 | bhima | good morning. |
| 15:20:06 | Morn | hey all |
| 15:20:12 | Morn | attempts to be human. |
| 15:20:16 | Morn | fails. |
| 15:56:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got pixil installed on my ipaq |
| 15:57:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks nice |
| 15:57:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats the license on pixil? |
| 15:57:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I don't know - what day is it today? </joke> |
| 15:58:22 | CosmicPenguin | Right now its restricted - however I believe that eventually everything will be opened up execpt for the applications |
| 16:01:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: bummer |
| 16:01:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I would urge you to e-mail the folks in charge and tell them your feelings |
| 16:06:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i will |
| 16:06:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are there plans for a sdk for pixil? |
| 16:07:43 | prpplague | Morn: can you attempt to look klingon? |
| 16:09:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I hope that an SDK will be available - right now they are doing a really good job of keeping us out of the loop :( |
| 16:36:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well it looks nice |
| 16:36:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: guess i'll have to look for something else though |
| 16:37:22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: looking for completely open source? |
| 16:37:34 | file | so hungry... |
| 16:53:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not really i guess, but open source generally makes things alot easier for me |
| 16:54:27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Of course - especially for custom development |
| 16:59:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but centrury's gotta make some money somewhere..... |
| 17:01:59 | prpplague | has anyone tried the new uclibc with c++ support? |
| 17:06:43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got a quick question on sqlite..... |
| 17:07:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: once you have a record inserted, how do you make changes to it? |
| 17:07:29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: UPDATE |
| 17:07:55 | CosmicPenguin | ie, UPDATE foo SET bar=1 baz=2 |
| 17:08:07 | CosmicPenguin | oops... stick a comma between the two fields |
| 17:08:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok thanks, i'll go read on UPDATE |
| 17:46:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you seen this - http://people.ne.mediaone.net/insouciant/Craig/StatusBox/index.html |
| 17:54:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats pretty cool |
| 17:55:12 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder what it would take to get it to work with IPC for a global console app |
| 17:58:49 | prpplague | shows his ignorance, whats IPC? |
| 17:59:03 | CosmicPenguin | inter process communications |
| 17:59:36 | prpplague | doh, should have know that |
| 18:00:13 | prpplague | hmm, don't think it would be too hard |
| 18:00:25 | prpplague | (famous last words) |
| 18:01:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you done anything wire 802.11 status monitoring? |
| 18:01:33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you could make a similar class that connects to a Unix socket - that way all apps could use the same syntax and output to the window... that would be cool |
| 18:02:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nothing beyond reading iwconfig, I'm afraid |
| 18:02:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes that would be nice |
| 18:47:57 | scanline | is away: class |
| 20:23:45 | file | hi Russ |
| 20:24:01 | Russ|werk | 'ello |
| 20:33:08 | Russ|werk | brb |
| 21:54:28 | scanline | is back (gone 03:06:30) |
| 21:57:37 | sjm | morning all |
| 21:59:20 | scanline | is away: back to the wet room |
| 22:30:58 | scanline | is back (gone 00:31:39) |
| 22:32:37 | sjm | Has anyone been able to uncompress Alex's microwindows snapshot? I get crc and length errors... |
| 22:33:14 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: ask him personally - he's hanging out in #microwindows |
| 22:33:23 | sjm | thanks |
| 22:36:45 | Morn | is anyone ever going to fix microwindows to work with the newer kernels on the tuxscreen? |
| 22:37:07 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: It has been fixed - Alex sent a message to the mailing list last week |
| 22:37:15 | Morn | oh, I hadn't seen that |
| 22:37:20 | Morn | I'll have to get the info |
| 22:37:26 | CosmicPenguin | I'm trying to get him to release a patch |
| 22:37:34 | Morn | that would be cool |
| 22:38:04 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: The first step we need to do is upgrade the kernel version - 2.4.16 had a pretty nasty UCB bug |
| 22:38:53 | CosmicPenguin | The serial port on my laptop is fried, so I can't do any development at the moment, so I'm relying on reports from others, though |
| 22:39:03 | Morn | ah |
| 22:50:32 | AeroSpace | What's UCB? |
| 22:51:06 | BZFlag | as in ucb1200, the dsp/touchscreen support. |
| 22:59:15 | ctr | is away: SSX TRicky |
| 23:28:24 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzzz |