| 00:30:21 | ctr | is away: SSX Tricky |
| 01:31:36 | ctr | is back (gone 01:01:15) |
| 01:59:05 | scanline | is back (gone 06:23:28) |
| 02:00:10 | Sammy | morning all :) |
| 02:07:20 | scanline | morning Sammy |
| 03:40:11 | TomW | mehuman: did you get it working yet? |
| 03:51:42 | | mehuman was last seen on #tuxscreen 10 hours, 20 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: or do i have to use db9/db9? [Sun Feb 3 17:30:53 2002] |
| 03:51:42 | TomW | ibot seen mehuman? |
| 03:51:58 | | mehuman was last seen on #tuxscreen 10 hours, 21 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: or do i have to use db9/db9? [Sun Feb 3 17:30:53 2002] |
| 03:51:58 | TomW | ibot: seen mehuman? |
| 04:01:10 | | TomW was last seen on #tuxscreen 9 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: ibot: seen mehuman? [Mon Feb 4 03:51:58 2002] |
| 04:01:10 | Hiraghm | ibot seen TomW? |
| 04:56:32 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Hi :) |
| 05:00:54 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: How are you doing? |
| 05:01:10 | CosmicPenguin | is hacking a new microwindows touchscreen driver |
| 05:01:46 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Not too bad, I found out why nano-X wasn't starting... |
| 05:02:01 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: why? |
| 05:02:23 | CosmicPenguin | is going to have to hack this up |
| 05:02:42 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: The latest buildroot creates /dev/ucb1x00-ts, but the nano-x server looks for /dev/ucb1200-ts. I added the correct entry to the device table, and it worked. |
| 05:03:12 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: I had to go back to kernel 2.4.7 though... |
| 05:03:18 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Yeah.... :( |
| 05:03:53 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: So now I am using the old kernel, but the latest filesystem image, with the microwindows-snapshot code. |
| 05:04:21 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: This allows me to use your snapshot program :) |
| 05:04:29 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Cool... :) |
| 05:04:41 | CosmicPenguin | I will have this new one hacked up soon, and we will upgrade to the newest microwindows code |
| 05:04:50 | CosmicPenguin | plus a few patches that Holden and I feel should be in |
| 05:05:14 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Looking forward to it :) |
| 05:06:51 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: So, should the latest buildroot be creating /dev/ucb1200* or will the next nano-x use /dev/ucb1x00* ? |
| 05:07:33 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: It appears that the currently accepted standard is /dev/ucb1x00* |
| 05:09:37 | sjm | CosmicPenguin: Okay, all is well then. |
| 05:10:27 | CosmicPenguin | wonders if I really should use RMKs library |
| 05:11:22 | CosmicPenguin | decides its not worth it |
| 06:48:56 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 days, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: ARM checks out ok... [Sun Feb 3 06:29:05 2002] |
| 06:48:56 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 07:10:31 | andersee | Hi CosmicPenguin |
| 07:10:34 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: hello |
| 07:11:12 | andersee | Got my email? |
| 07:11:40 | CosmicPenguin | Yep.. did you go ahead and release 0.9.9? |
| 07:11:56 | andersee | Not yet. About to now. |
| 07:12:06 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: cool |
| 07:13:37 | andersee | One last little problem Im fixing. I was checking some stuff and noticed a piece of GPLd code slipped into the mips port |
| 07:13:50 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
| 07:17:54 | CosmicPenguin | I started to use RMKs library for the Microwindows touchscreen, but then I realized his code was really just an elaborate wrapper around read(fd) |
| 07:18:49 | andersee | heh |
| 07:19:24 | andersee | I'm hopeing to see microwindows and/or X running on my phone soon... |
| 07:19:34 | andersee | Its been a while... |
| 07:20:09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I've decided to turn mine into a bluetooth client |
| 07:20:45 | andersee | Got a bluetooth card? |
| 07:21:08 | CosmicPenguin | I've got 2 CF cards and 2 PCMCIA cards |
| 07:21:37 | andersee | My phone continues to be the phone that sits on my desk in my office. |
| 07:26:16 | andersee | hmm. sparc compile bug. |
| 07:26:21 | andersee | fixing... |
| 07:32:14 | jacques | hi guys |
| 07:32:34 | | hello, andersee |
| 07:32:34 | andersee | howdy |
| 07:32:44 | | Sorry, andersee, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 07:32:44 | andersee | ibot: shut up |
| 07:33:21 | | de rien andersee |
| 07:33:21 | andersee | ibot: thanks. I appreciate that in a bot. |
| 07:37:01 | andersee | Bah. sparc had a piece of GPLed code in it too. :( |
| 07:37:04 | andersee | fixing |
| 07:53:59 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I borrowed your uClibc_fix_config.pl script for Microwindows too |
| 07:55:46 | andersee | great. |
| 07:56:23 | andersee | I've added that script into the uClibc tree now, so after the release I'll axe the one in buildroot |
| 07:56:56 | CosmicPenguin | I've actually been considering using the kernel menuconfig for Microwindows, but I haven't gone to the effort of porting it over |
| 07:57:00 | andersee | I assume you created a microwindows_config.pl? |
| 07:57:15 | andersee | I'm planning on doing that with uClibc before the next release |
| 07:57:57 | CosmicPenguin | Greg would probably be pissed because he didn't think of it.. :) |
| 07:58:45 | andersee | LOL! |
| 07:59:28 | andersee | So does Greg actually _do_ anything these days with microwindows? I kindof get the impression he's orphined it... |
| 07:59:47 | andersee | Releases arn't exactly coming out very often... |
| 08:00:28 | finalfantasydog | did the price go up? |
| 08:01:13 | andersee | I'll sell you mine for $600 each. :) |
| 08:02:16 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Well, Greg is currently too busy playing to hack on code |
| 08:02:31 | andersee | So I gathered. |
| 08:02:48 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: And, he is unwilling to pay me to hack on it for him |
| 08:03:28 | CosmicPenguin | And lately, submitted patches have never been heard from again |
| 08:04:13 | andersee | i.e. he's orphined it... |
| 08:04:18 | andersee | :-( |
| 08:05:37 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Yeah, but he is unwilling to give it up to somebody else |
| 08:05:53 | CosmicPenguin | I would take it in a heart beat |
| 08:06:29 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least, I could take over admin duties... |
| 08:07:44 | andersee | I supose forking would be bad for employment |
| 08:09:32 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I don't know |
| 08:09:59 | CosmicPenguin | I was thinking - If I maintained a seperate tree for the Tuxscreen that happened to have patches that wern't in the main tree, who would get pissed? |
| 08:10:52 | | holden was last seen on #familiar 19 hours, 2 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Sun Feb 3 13:07:54 2002] |
| 08:10:52 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: seen holden? |
| 08:12:59 | andersee | suppore that might work |
| 08:13:57 | cpenguin_home | I'm still getting disconnects - I would use a newer kernel version, but then my 802.11b all but dies |
| 08:14:13 | cpenguin_home | *loves* winmodems |
| 13:31:28 | jeffrey | type " bind -a '#t' /dev ; rdp -s115200 -r " in inferno, result in error msg 'open /dev/eia0 failed: file does not exist', anybody know why? |
| 15:30:06 | thekernel | Hey everyone... Long time no see. Anything new with tuxscreen? |
| 15:30:37 | prpplague | thekernel: things have been kinda slow lately |
| 15:30:52 | prpplague | thekernel: seems most everyone is doing dev work for $$ right now |
| 15:31:24 | thekernel | Well, I know I'm definitely out of the loop as of wednesday |
| 15:31:43 | prpplague | thekernel: ohh, why is that? |
| 15:32:26 | thekernel | Well, I'll be going on a mission for 2 years. I'll be in old east germany. |
| 15:33:42 | thekernel | Working on computers is kind of out when the task at hand it to teach and serve people. |
| 15:34:56 | thekernel | goes and seeks food |
| 15:37:51 | cpenguin_work | is back (gone 63:32:53) |
| 15:46:55 | prpplague | thekernel: ahh, heading out for your mission eay? |
| 15:52:02 | prpplague | howdy SpaceCoaster |
| 15:53:34 | SpaceCoaster | prpplague: hi, how is texas doing today? |
| 15:55:23 | scanline | celebrates PicoGUI's debut on slashdot |
| 15:55:57 | thekernel | plans to celebrate his official departure from the computer industry |
| 15:56:13 | SpaceCoaster | scanline: woohoo |
| 15:57:11 | scanline | thekernel: good luck on the mission |
| 15:57:26 | thekernel | thanks. I hope I can pickup german quickly |
| 16:00:19 | SpaceCoaster | thekernel: don't fret they all speak english, tho' good luck with those compound words! |
| 16:01:38 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: I thought you would be eating sourkraut by now |
| 16:04:33 | SpaceCoaster | thekernel: which bit of Germany? |
| 16:07:48 | thekernel | CosmicPenguin: I go to the MTC in 2 days and then after 2 months I hit germany |
| 16:08:09 | thekernel | SpaceCoaster: Leipzig (southern part of old east germany) |
| 16:08:26 | SpaceCoaster | MTC = Malaysian Timber Council? |
| 16:08:40 | thekernel | Missionary Training Center |
| 16:10:02 | thekernel | Well, I need to get going... Places to go things to buy, things to finish. |
| 16:13:19 | CosmicPenguin | Sucks for him - going to the MTC 2 days before the olympics start |
| 16:28:09 | andersee | FYI -- uClibc 0.9.9 has been released... |
| 16:28:23 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! |
| 16:28:45 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'll put it through the wringer... |
| 16:28:54 | andersee | I think I'll go get some breakfast and go to sleep. |
| 16:29:03 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: That would be great! |
| 16:29:11 | CosmicPenguin | looks for his harriest FLTK code |
| 16:30:15 | andersee | I didn't release a C++ toolchain yet, so you will need to build your own for the moment... |
| 16:30:24 | andersee | Hopefully later this evening... |
| 16:30:37 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'll wait for yours, if thats ok.... |
| 16:30:42 | andersee | Or tomorrow... |
| 16:30:50 | CosmicPenguin | gets goosebumps thinking about compiling toolchains |
| 16:31:24 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: That stuff I sent you includes a script to build the thing... |
| 16:31:59 | andersee | Ahh well. |
| 16:32:10 | andersee | wanders off to find food |
| 16:32:16 | andersee | is away: I'm busy |
| 16:45:31 | ctr | ferite? |
| 16:45:38 | | ferite is a cool programming langauge developed by boris, it can be found at http://ferite.org |
| 16:45:38 | ctr | ibot: ferite? |
| 16:52:00 | scanline | sourceforge CVS is slow today... |
| 16:58:00 | scanline | ugh... _really_ slow |
| 17:00:01 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: because PicoGUI is being slashdotted? :) |
| 17:00:24 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: hehe... i hope sourceforge doesn't put the web and CVS on the same server |
| 17:00:37 | scanline | it will be interesting to see the web page activity graph for today |
| 17:08:40 | scanline | continues to wait on a "cvs update -PdA" of picogui |
| 17:43:34 | scanline | is away: class |
| 18:32:39 | prpplague | who here is using picogui? |
| 18:33:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: scanline is the lord and master of all things picogui |
| 18:34:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i remember something being said about that |
| 18:37:09 | prpplague | needs to start looking for a gui |
| 18:37:42 | CosmicPenguin | politely suggests Microwindows, though tiny-X, picogui and Qtopia are all good choices as well |
| 18:41:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what kind of development tools are available for uWindows |
| 18:42:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Currently the main toolkit is a port of FLTK (which we call FLNX) |
| 18:43:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, that sounds good, since i'm a fluid freak |
| 18:43:59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Actually, our Pixil code is compeletely written in FLNX (http://embedded.censoft.com) |
| 18:44:10 | CosmicPenguin | is hacking on FLTK right now as we speak |
| 18:46:43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, looks like in need to do some testing |
| 18:47:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, you can't be using uclibc with fltk are you? |
| 18:47:18 | CosmicPenguin | not right now, but I will be |
| 18:51:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya with the new uclibc c++ support |
| 18:51:44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya andersee says that the other company decided to fork up the $$ |
| 18:52:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Thats why ViewML has to be static on the Tuxscreen image - it is FLTK/FLNX based |
| 18:54:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: pixil looks nice, but you know there are two apps that never seem to get added to the PIMS, one is receipt db, and the other is a timeclock |
| 18:54:23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: both are essential to our ppl |
| 18:56:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Both very good idea... I lik the receipt database.... |
| 18:56:31 | CosmicPenguin | adds that to my todo list |
| 18:57:02 | AlHazWork | palmos comes with an expense tracker app that's almost a reciept db |
| 18:57:38 | AlHazWork | I never did find a decent time card applet for palmos. 'course, I stopped looking in '99 |
| 18:57:50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: If the stars align, maybe we can convince Royal to release a SDK for Pixil when they come out with the Linu@x PDA.... |
| 18:57:55 | CosmicPenguin | prays |
| 18:58:01 | AlHazWork | when an ISP offered me a job, and i said "OK, as long as we have a written contract that i never fill out any sort of time tracking form" |
| 18:58:40 | AlHazWork | Several managers and higher-ups were visibly irked when i informed them of that . . . |
| 18:59:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the pixil thin client looks very nice |
| 19:00:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: It is... that one is X based |
| 19:00:38 | prpplague | AlHazWork: when i travel, the three big things i have to keep track of, receipts, time, and new beers that i've tried.... |
| 19:01:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thing i'll DL it and give a try |
| 19:01:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Let me know how you like it |
| 19:01:59 | AlHazWork | prpplague: I know a guy who used to type up his expense reports on a WorkSlate on the way back from business trips. The WorkSlate had an interesting printer that used tiny ball-point pens and took rolls of adding machine paper |
| 19:02:09 | AlHazWork | prpplague: he says the finance guys hated him for those . . . |
| 19:02:50 | prpplague | AlHazWork: lol |
| 19:04:03 | AlHazWork | The WorkSlate was a single-function notepad-alike computer, all it did was spreadsheets |
| 19:04:50 | AlHazWork | earned the unfortunate nickname "The dodo" \ |
| 19:06:17 | prpplague | AlHazWork: lol, ya lot of older portables just didn't make it |
| 19:06:50 | prpplague | http://www.abcsinc.com/yopy/ratebeer.tar.gz |
| 19:06:53 | AlHazWork | http://www.geocities.com/~compcloset/ConvergentTechnologiesWorkSlate.htm |
| 19:07:13 | prpplague | thats my toy app i whipped up to record my beer info |
| 19:08:54 | prpplague | AlHazWork: cute design |
| 19:14:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, how does uWindows handle screen rotation? |
| 19:17:18 | prpplague | ahh, we morn the disapperance of Morn |
| 19:23:11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: You can indicate your desired rotation at runtime |
| 19:23:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: There is code in there to do it dynamically, but unfortunately, the offscreen pixmaps don't get rotated as well, so you have issues |
| 19:24:12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: runtime is enough for me |
| 19:25:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: will the dynamic support be develop further? |
| 19:26:38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: as is needed |
| 19:53:21 | alison101 | sup |
| 19:53:27 | alison101 | somebody say something |
| 19:53:54 | sean | monkey |
| 19:54:01 | alison101 | damn |
| 19:54:06 | alison101 | u said it too late :) |
| 19:54:17 | sean | drat. i'm always saying monkey too late. |
| 19:54:31 | alison101 | just a split second too late :) |
| 19:54:45 | sean | closer than usual then. |
| 19:54:57 | alison101 | :) |
| 19:55:11 | alison101 | waits for ethereal to process the logs |
| 19:55:31 | alison101 | pIII 500 isn't enuf for it on big logs |
| 20:06:32 | TomW | something |
| 20:09:10 | TomW | I have been thinking that there is something wacky about how the keyboard is controlling the backlight. If you do a Ctrl-Screen-, it will turn off the backlight, a Ctrl-Screen+ will turn it back on again. But when you manually turn the backlight off (Ctrl-Screen-), the only way to get it back on is to use the Ctrl-Screen+. There is no way to wake it up by touching a key on the keyboard, something is wrong with that operation. |
| 20:28:10 | file | hey BZFlag |
| 20:28:53 | BZFlag | hey |
| 20:29:43 | file | == happy |
| 20:43:37 | CosmicPenguin | Its BZFlag - the slayer of the HH dragon.. :) |
| 20:59:58 | prpplague | Morn: what the matter? your slo(w)aris give you a hard time today? lol |
| 21:00:12 | BZFlag | opens mouth, inserts foot, and ducks. |
| 21:00:26 | Morn | no, I got a new board |
| 21:00:30 | Morn | and it's causing trouble with linux |
| 21:01:37 | prpplague | Morn: ohh my |
| 21:02:51 | Morn | it's a video capture card |
| 21:03:01 | Morn | and it's causing a lot of 'random' lockups |
| 21:03:01 | prpplague | Morn: beachtree? |
| 21:03:06 | Morn | I took it out to get done |
| 21:03:13 | Morn | Happagauge |
| 21:03:17 | Morn | WinTV Theater |
| 21:03:20 | Morn | the high end one |
| 21:03:48 | prpplague | Morn: i've one of the low end Happaqauge cards but not used it much |
| 21:04:02 | Morn | I had the low end one, gave it to my roommate |
| 21:04:13 | Morn | Got this one, with dobly, remote, fm, the works |
| 21:07:26 | prpplague | Morn: sounds nice |
| 21:08:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whens the royal pda scheduled to be available? |
| 21:08:31 | Morn | it is (if it works) |
| 21:09:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Your guess is as good as ime |
| 21:09:08 | CosmicPenguin | s/ime/mine/ |
| 21:09:44 | CosmicPenguin | They are telling us middle of June. I would assume that one day my boss will roll in and say that they need a Pixil release one day X, and that will be that |
| 21:10:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, i know how that is |
| 21:10:12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks nice |
| 21:11:01 | AeroSpace | Morn: What's the chip? I have a Bt878 based card by Pinnacle. I've had it crash X when I change resolutions, but I don't think it has yet to crash the box. |
| 21:11:05 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I use it on my Ipaq - its very usable. The usual slate of bugs, and lots of stuff I want changed, but all in all, pretty nice |
| 21:11:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got a dev project assigned friday to look into creating some medical related PIM apps for a pda |
| 21:12:02 | Morn | AeroSpace: that's the same tuner, but this has much more, and the machine is locking on boot |
| 21:12:13 | Morn | I can't seem to get far, so I took it out til I could troubleshoot more |
| 21:12:23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: on a custom PDA, or a stock model? |
| 21:13:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats kinda the directs of the research, to see wether a custom pda, or stock would be better |
| 21:13:42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you guys have the expertise to develop a board in-company don't you? |
| 21:14:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we do, but we really don't have the facilities to manufacture quantity |
| 21:14:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and we would really like to keep out of the manufacturing end if we can help it |
| 21:15:17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: true... that can get annoying |
| 21:15:21 | AeroSpace | Morn: Mine just has stereo, fm, and the remote. I assume no dolby. I have yet to figure out the claims on stereo though. |
| 21:16:13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd really like to use the exilien series from HNT, but i can't seem to get anyone there to return a phone call |
| 21:16:19 | Morn | AeroSpace: I just need to fiddle with it later, but since my linux box is the gateway and my roommate is doing job searches I can't fiddle right now |
| 21:17:56 | AeroSpace | Morn: I've blown a couple job searches when it has locked up X in the past. Last time I went through my history to recover some pages. |
| 21:24:45 | pmisfit | what's that? searches? jobs? you mean there actually are jobs out there? ;-) |
| 21:25:30 | CosmicPenguin | pmisfit: No... he's just kidding... though I think Enron is hiring |
| 21:25:31 | Morn | My roommate is having a heck of a time finding anything |
| 21:28:56 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: What kernel version do you run on the Ipaq? |
| 21:28:59 | AeroSpace | pmisfit: The job search places sure seem to want me to think there are jobs there. |
| 21:30:17 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: 2.4.17 hh1 |
| 21:30:31 | CosmicPenguin | When you put it to sleep, how long doesit last? |
| 21:30:47 | mehuman1 | what did you guys use for a power and ground source when you flashed your rom? |
| 21:30:51 | Morn | I haven't tested more than about 5 or 6 days, but the battery was only half way then |
| 21:31:13 | CosmicPenguin | Damn.. I get maybe 6 hours |
| 21:31:15 | CosmicPenguin | 2.4.7 |
| 21:31:22 | CosmicPenguin | goes off to try to upgrade |
| 21:31:30 | Morn | that bug is fixed in the later kernels |
| 21:31:32 | Morn | upgrade |
| 21:31:44 | AeroSpace | mehuman1: The internal power connector for one of my systems. (The 12V power lead). |
| 21:32:07 | mehuman1 | from another computers power supply? |
| 21:32:11 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't want to lose his databases |
| 21:32:12 | mehuman1 | and the ground too? |
| 21:32:35 | AeroSpace | mehuman1: yes and yes, the tuxscreen doesn't have a 12V anywhere. |
| 21:33:09 | mehuman1 | i thought i saw that a part got it on a pdf i saw somewhere |
| 21:33:22 | pmisfit | AeroSpace: yeah, i used to be on the hiring side, 5 years ago. the job search places sure charged me as if there were employees out there... |
| 21:33:23 | mehuman1 | if i was home i could refence the page |
| 21:33:35 | pmisfit | AeroSpace: but there weren't. |
| 21:35:46 | pmisfit | off to try to compile openssl and openssh for arm-linux |
| 21:38:26 | mehuman1 | will a db25/db9 null modem cable work? |
| 21:38:53 | AlHazWork | sure, the tux has a db9 on it fwiw |
| 21:39:13 | mehuman1 | ok |
| 21:39:24 | mehuman1 | no place where i live carries db9/db9 |
| 21:44:32 | CosmicPenguin | mehuman: Not even RS? |
| 21:49:15 | mehuman1 | didn't check usually to expensive |
| 21:49:24 | mehuman1 | oh i did |
| 21:49:27 | mehuman1 | check |
| 21:49:35 | mehuman1 | don't carry it in store |
| 21:50:39 | TomW | mehuman1: did you try Radio Shack? I got my DB9 null modem from them. |
| 21:50:51 | mehuman1 | yeah i did |
| 21:50:58 | mehuman1 | that is rs |
| 21:51:12 | mehuman1 | i assume |
| 21:54:41 | TomW | mehuman1: Maybe try a computer store listed in your local phone directory? |
| 21:56:01 | mehuman1 | i live in the boonies very little around |
| 21:56:03 | bjorn_b | Woohoo - I just got my first tuxscreen in the mail! |
| 21:56:15 | mehuman1 | i can try a local electronics store |
| 21:56:25 | mehuman1 | but otherwise its staples time!!! |
| 21:56:46 | TomW | bjorn_b: I just ordered two more on Saturday.. |
| 21:57:17 | bjorn_b | A friend here at university is building a tuxscreen into the dash of an electric car... I had to have one. |
| 21:58:42 | mehuman1 | bjorn_b what is going to use it for? |
| 21:59:09 | CosmicPenguin | hopes the tuxscreen doesn't drain much power from an electric car |
| 21:59:11 | bjorn_b | I'm not exactly sure - I assume it's just going to be a HUD for battery lifetime, etc. |
| 21:59:20 | scanline | is back (gone 04:15:46) |
| 21:59:42 | mehuman1 | ok |
| 21:59:52 | mehuman1 | bjorn_b that sounds pretty cool |
| 21:59:57 | TomW | bjorn_b: Is your friend using the whole electronics (both boards) or did he figure out how to just run the CPU + touchscreen + lcd without the DSP board? |
| 22:00:25 | bjorn_b | Again, I'm not sure - I think right now they have the complete package in there |
| 22:00:58 | mehuman1 | i was originally going to put my tuxscreen in my car but im going to use an i-opener |
| 22:01:00 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: The CPU does not need the DSP to run |
| 22:01:04 | mehuman1 | easier to connect a hdd |
| 22:01:09 | bjorn_b | Here's the website: http://www.hev.utulsa.edu/ |
| 22:01:44 | mehuman1 | if the was anyway to interface the lcd to a regular computer that would be nice, a 7" lcd touchscreen for 99 |
| 22:02:30 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I know, or suspected as much, I think that the entire subsystem for the CPU is on the card (watchdog, etc). All I would hae to do is supply it with 3.3 volts? I don't need the 5 volt supply unless I am going to run 5 volt PCMCIA cards? |
| 22:03:18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: man that royal pda looks nice |
| 22:03:24 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: I'm not sure about that. I wonder if the touchscreen needs 5V. The best person to ask about that is GPSFan_ |
| 22:03:33 | pmisfit | notices that openssl doesn't use autoconf. emits groan. |
| 22:03:39 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: That is why I ordered two more. I have a proof-of-concept system to throw together and as the the desing would ba on ARM, I had hoped to use the ARM CPU from the TuxScreen to power my concept desing. |
| 22:04:02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Yep... I wonder though if the Sharp is going to set the hardware standard though |
| 22:04:20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: If not, then not having an attached keyboard will always be a liabiility |
| 22:04:37 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: That LCD is 3 years old, it probably does need 5 volts, some of the newer displays are running at 3.3 volts now. |
| 22:05:17 | sjm | morning all |
| 22:05:53 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: I wonder if maybe an assabet would be easier to take apart? |
| 22:06:44 | CosmicPenguin | But definately not cheaper |
| 22:07:34 | TomW | I have two ARM development kits here, both from Cirrus Logic. One is the CLPS7500 and the other is the CLPS7212, neither one has linux running on it. The Tux is the only one I have linux on! ARM has been a bit of a puzzle for me to understand, now that I have a working ARM/Linux system, I can bang & thump it to see how ARM works. |
| 22:11:59 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I'm grabbing 2.4.16-rmk1-hh12 for the Ipaq... hopefully that is much better than what I've got |
| 22:12:12 | Morn | yeah, the 2.4.16 is cool |
| 22:12:20 | Morn | I'm trying the 2.4.17 versions |
| 22:12:24 | Morn | Jamey is doing a great job |
| 22:12:43 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Where can I get the 2.4.17 versions? There doesn't seem to be a tag in CVS |
| 22:13:05 | Morn | I got it off lorien.handhelds.org (the ftp site) |
| 22:13:13 | Morn | I didn't compile myself |
| 22:13:19 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Oh, so just binary.... |
| 22:13:23 | Morn | I just did an ipkg update |
| 22:13:33 | Morn | But, I thought Jamey said it was in CVS |
| 22:13:39 | CosmicPenguin | Ohhh... so thats what started that minor war earlier... :) |
| 22:14:01 | Morn | minor war? |
| 22:14:14 | Morn | what did I miss |
| 22:14:53 | Morn | I'm getting a headache with this stupid wine thing |
| 22:14:56 | Morn | grumbles. |
| 22:15:32 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I don't need the LCD, all I will need is the serial port for my demo system. |
| 22:17:24 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Our own BZFlag started a little tiff when he asked Jamey to make code patches for the handhelds kernel as well as binaries |
| 22:17:43 | CosmicPenguin | But it does not appear that 2.4.17 is in CVS yet, so I will just go with the 2.4.16 world |
| 22:28:12 | mehuman1 | does anyone know of an app that allows me to write using the touch screen? |
| 22:28:35 | sjm | mehuman1: nxscribble ? |
| 22:29:20 | mehuman1 | do you have a link? |
| 22:29:38 | mehuman1 | i found one |
| 22:38:00 | CosmicPenguin | sjm: Assuming of course that the touchscreen works???? :) |
| 22:38:06 | prpplague | anyone know the url for xkbd source? |
| 22:38:41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: It lives in the handhelds world somewhere |
| 22:38:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks just found it |
| 22:44:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you ever make it over to snapgear? |
| 22:45:51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Nope.... Did you order hardware? |
| 22:46:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, my purchasing manager ordered a pair of the "lite" models |
| 23:20:45 | CosmicPenguin | cannot figure out why his laptop can't rz a file |
| 23:20:58 | file | i don't want to |
| 23:33:57 | ctr | is away: wolf wolf! |
| 23:43:08 | ctr | is back (gone 00:09:11) |
| 23:44:03 | CosmicPenguin | had his first kernel upgrade explode |
| 23:47:17 | CosmicPenguin | is trying the second one |
| 23:57:55 | file | uh huh |