| 03:48:59 | Reque | On a vanilla (Inferno as shipped) TuxScreen, is there a trick to adminintering the ISP parameters so that the web interface works? |
| 04:10:48 | Morn | is back (gone 05:23:29) |
| 04:20:55 | gf2e | good evening. |
| 04:22:01 | gf2e | bah. just an auto-rejoin |
| 12:21:18 | scanline | is away: packing to go back to college |
| 13:31:35 | holden | Is there a practical/cheap way to connect the TuxScreen to ethernet? |
| 13:37:14 | ctr | *cool*( |
| 14:30:08 | Tangent | holden : PCMCIA ethernet card |
| 14:37:20 | Tangent | GPSFan : Hey |
| 14:37:57 | GPSFan | morning! |
| 14:38:23 | GPSFan | or, I guess it's nearly noon there... |
| 14:38:38 | holden | Tangent: does any kind work? I heard something about the PCMCIA slot being broken... |
| 14:38:40 | Tangent | Yeah.. nearly 3pm here |
| 14:39:11 | Tangent | holden : Any 3.3V card will work... and there's a very simple modification you can make to the tux to get it to support 5V cards |
| 14:40:07 | holden | Tangent: Ok. any specific models you know definitely work after 5V is brought out to the slot? |
| 14:40:33 | Tangent | holden : Well, I know my very old Dlink-DE650 works... |
| 14:40:49 | Tangent | holden : I think that generally if it works with linux, it'll work with the tux |
| 14:41:02 | GPSFan | Megahertz CC10B2 works |
| 14:41:09 | Tangent | holden : Oh... must be 16bit PCMCIA... not Cardbus cards |
| 14:41:22 | Tangent | Tux doesn't do cardbus |
| 14:41:27 | GPSFan | Epson EEN10B has driver issues. |
| 14:41:47 | holden | Tangent: shame, I only have a cardbus card ATM |
| 14:43:58 | GPSFan | Tangent: do you have a JTAG dongle? |
| 14:45:42 | Tangent | GPSFan : Nope |
| 14:45:54 | Tangent | GPSFan : Why'd you ask? |
| 14:47:17 | GPSFan | Tangent: I'm trying to track down why the blob2.04 sources produce a blob that doesn't run. and if you don't have a JTAG, you won't be able to get back if you try it. |
| 14:47:42 | Tangent | Nod... I must get round to making one at some point.. |
| 14:49:24 | Tangent | Haven't had any time at all for toys lately... doing a short term contract 150 miles from home, and staying in hotels during the week until mid feb |
| 14:49:45 | GPSFan | I hope it pays well... |
| 14:49:55 | Tangent | Well enough :) |
| 14:51:32 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 14:58:00 | Tangent | So... what's new in the tuxscreen world? Has gork made his boards yet? |
| 14:58:45 | | gork was last seen on #tuxscreen 26 days, 13 hours, 47 seconds ago, saying: hmm it used to be there [Tue Dec 18 01:57:58 2001] |
| 14:58:45 | GPSFan | ibot seen gork |
| 14:59:13 | GPSFan | Tan: I don't think so, heseems to have been busy. |
| 14:59:49 | Tangent | I might make a small batch myself when I'm back out of work in february |
| 14:59:53 | Tangent | give me something to do |
| 15:00:24 | holden | What boards are these? |
| 15:00:48 | Tangent | add on audio connectors... extra serial port... |
| 15:02:32 | holden | Interesting. What speed are the serial ports and do they have hardware flow control? |
| 15:02:40 | GPSFan | Tangent: you tried running flite on your tux, I see there is a new release. what were the problems you encountered (if any)? |
| 15:03:00 | Tangent | GPSFan : I tried it a couple of months back... no problems at all |
| 15:03:09 | GPSFan | the binary? |
| 15:03:24 | Tangent | Yeah.. someone posted a binary to one of the ipaq mailing lists |
| 15:03:57 | GPSFan | ah, I downloaded the bin from CMU, and it was corrupt. I'll try the new one. ;>) |
| 15:06:31 | Tangent | holden : Up to 115200bps... hardware flow control on only the built in port... not the one on the expansion board |
| 15:07:48 | Morn | is away: foraging for food... |
| 15:08:28 | Tangent | holden : Here's my first PCB for the tux... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/TuxScreen/Shanip232-Top.jpg |
| 15:11:56 | holden | Tangent: hmm, think I probably have all of those parts in stock. Is the layout available? |
| 15:12:20 | Tangent | schematic : http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/TuxScreen/shanip232-schematic.pdf |
| 15:12:34 | Tangent | copper layer : http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/TuxScreen/shanip232v2black.pdf |
| 15:16:16 | Tangent | holden : BTW... the schematic is lying... the chip is not a max232... it's a max3232 |
| 15:16:33 | Tangent | holden : pin compatible 3.3V version |
| 15:19:10 | holden | Tangent: Very little clearance between the tracks and the ground plane there... What design package do you use? I use Protel99SE myself... |
| 15:19:23 | Tangent | holden : I use EaglePCB |
| 15:19:56 | Tangent | holden : I did a lot of tweaking with track widths etc to get it working well with my Press&Peel PCB transfer paper |
| 15:21:48 | holden | Tangent: I do photo-etching and I know I would have difficulty with that little clearance. Need to get plenty of contrast on the transparency and use a nice strong developer. |
| 15:22:39 | holden | Mind you, my old laser printer is crap which doesn't help... |
| 15:29:44 | holden | Does the telephone part work as a standard phone under Linux or does it need some software that interfaces with the DSP writing to do that? |
| 15:30:00 | Tangent | holden : Both |
| 15:30:30 | Tangent | holden : The phone works as a phone with nothing on flash... but with the extra software, it can do tone dailling and all sort of clever things like that |
| 15:30:53 | holden | Tangent: Nice. |
| 15:31:39 | holden | I'm 75% convinced that I want to buy one to use as a Microwindows development platform (since my NetWinder is now being used as a server). |
| 15:31:57 | holden | How much hassle is it getting one imported to the UK? |
| 15:36:52 | Tangent | holden : Fine.. only hassle is shipping, and paying VAT when it gets here.. |
| 15:37:04 | Tangent | holden : For me the shipping was $68 for 2xtux |
| 15:38:01 | holden | Tangent: Ah, I'd forgotten about VAT :( |
| 15:48:26 | holden | Including VAT and airmail delivery for one unit to the UK I get £108 |
| 15:51:58 | holden | Is there Linux support for standby/resume or do you have to go through the full boot/shutdown cycle? |
| 15:59:11 | holden | Ok, will probably order a TuxScreen later this week and come back here when it arrives. So long for now! |
| 17:52:25 | DrXenon | anybody used a xilinx dcl5 cable (http://asterix.ist.utl.pt/ec-csd/Data_sheet/haduserguide.pdf page 54) to program a tuxscreen? |
| 17:56:22 | GPSFan | DrXenon: do you mean instead of the JTAG dongle described on the LART site? |
| 18:00:27 | DrXenon | yah, i don't have a LART dongle but i do have a dcl5. i'm trying to determine which parport pins jflash is using. if they're the same, life is easy. if not, i'll have to hack jflash. |
| 18:01:05 | DrXenon | if jflash and the xilinx program use the same pins, that is. |
| 18:02:23 | GPSFan | Dr_Xenon: jflash used data bits d0,d1,d2 and bsy, d0>>tck d1>>tdi d2>>tms bsy<<tdo |
| 18:06:15 | DrXenon | are d0,d1,d2,bsy pins 3,2,4,6 on the parport? |
| 18:06:54 | GPSFan | d0=2,d1=3,d2=4, bsy=11 on a db25 parallel port. |
| 18:08:48 | GPSFan | DrXenon: I built my own jtag and that's how mine is connected. I derived the design from the LART design. it works. |
| 18:09:04 | DrXenon | it seems that i'll have to hunt down a copy of the xilinx jtag program. |
| 18:09:52 | DrXenon | wow. roll yer own JTAG. impressive. |
| 18:10:16 | GPSFan | Dr_Xenon: build one youreself, it's not too bad. ftp://ftp.desertweyr.com/pub/Image13.jpg |
| 18:10:59 | GPSFan | I used a 74LVX125, but an AC should work. |
| 18:14:37 | DrXenon | hee, i can get the xilinx software from work. i refuse to pay radio shack $5.00 for a $0.30 chip, even if i'm being irrational. |
| 18:16:28 | GPSFan | DrXenon: agreed, RS is a rip-off. samples are the saviour of the consultant. ;>) |
| 18:19:25 | GPSFan | Dr_Xenon: the schematic is here: http://tuxscreen.net/download/schematics/jtag4.pdf |
| 18:23:19 | DrXenon | tux==tuxscreen ? |
| 18:23:29 | GPSFan | yes |
| 18:23:53 | DrXenon | you da man. |
| 18:24:40 | GPSFan | only a hardware guy, I struggle with software.;>( |
| 18:25:35 | DrXenon | hee. i often look down my nose at software |
| 18:25:41 | DrXenon | "people" |
| 18:26:51 | GPSFan | without software, the tuxscreen makes a poor doorstop. |
| 18:26:58 | DrXenon | they rarely bathe and they haven't learned how to make reliable code in the 4-5 decades so-called "software engineering" has been around. |
| 18:27:32 | GPSFan | that may be true as well. |
| 18:34:51 | DrXenon | do you have to have a separate power supply for pins 1/12/13, or is this supplied through the tux power brick? |
| 18:36:39 | GPSFan | like the LART JTAG, mine draws it's 3.3V from the host (tux in this case). 3.3V comes out the JTAG connector on most good designs. |
| 18:38:30 | DrXenon | so you wirewrapped 1 and 13 together, or are they already shorted on the tux. |
| 18:38:44 | GPSFan | since the SA1100's inputs are not 5V tolerant, a level translator is neccessary. people have done it with diodes, but 1 74LVX125 is less wiring. |
| 18:39:36 | GPSFan | 1,13 are connected together on the tux. |
| 18:40:09 | GPSFan | both aren't required. |
| 19:09:33 | DrXenon | do you have to enter the chain manually into jflash, or is it automagically detected? |
| 19:22:08 | GPSFan | DrXenon: automatic, just do flash <blob. |
| 19:22:59 | GPSFan | Dr_Xenon: the version of jflash from the tux CVS is compiled to know about the tux. |
| 19:24:48 | DrXenon | thanks again. |
| 20:04:10 | file | hey BZFlag |
| 20:04:15 | file | yeekz, only 500 left? |
| 20:08:49 | GPSFan | BZFlag: is there a problem with the blob-2.04 sources on the tux CVS? I've compiled it, no errors, but it doesn't run when I flash it onto my tux. I have to JTAG the binary from v.4. I noticed that the binaries are different lengths, and identical for the first 0x400 bytes. |
| 20:16:43 | EGg0 | is away: (watching a movie) |
| 20:19:20 | BZFlag | GPSFan: v0.4 has the 115200 patch. the cvs 2.0.4 is 9600 but works. |
| 20:20:33 | GPSFan | BZFlag: ah that's prpbably it, I was still using 115200, when I flashed it, I'll try 9600 ans see what happens, thanks! |
| 20:22:46 | BZFlag | you bet. |
| 20:22:53 | BZFlag | gotta run |
| 21:30:27 | Hiraghm | moo |
| 22:39:37 | Hiraghm | is now known as Hiraghm |
