| 00:20:46 | CosmicPenguin | bye alllllll! |
| 00:45:54 | DrXenon | does anyone happen to know the JTAG instruction register length for the am29lv160d proms? |
| 00:48:26 | GPSFan | DrXenon: it might be in the jflash sources. |
| 00:50:18 | DrXenon | hee. on second thought, i think i'll just fix my peecee's linux boot problems and use jflash. :-) |
| 00:50:58 | GPSFan | DrXenon: Make sure you use the blob binaries from the wiki, I just tried to use the blob I built from CVS and it doesn't work. |
| 00:51:52 | DrXenon | thanks for the tip. wish you'd given it about 2 weeks ago. |
| 00:52:36 | GPSFan | DrXenon: I just tried it 10 min ago, so I wouldn't have known 2 weeks ago. |
| 00:52:43 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 00:53:21 | DrXenon | you already have jflash working, right? |
| 00:53:47 | GPSFan | DrXenon: yes, I just re-flashed with jtag about 3 times in the last 10 min. |
| 00:54:20 | DrXenon | still dead? |
| 00:55:07 | GPSFan | DrXenon: I could have sworn that the blob I built about a month ago worked fine. but it doesn't. I save most of them just in case. but now the only one that works is the one from the wiki. |
| 00:55:32 | GPSFan | off to dinner, mmmm! |
| 00:55:39 | DrXenon | bon appetit |
| 01:09:00 | bhima | wavels. *gone* |
| 02:08:21 | GPSFan | Keyser: have you rebuilt blob-2.0.4 from CVS? |
| 03:13:19 | pmisfit | love tiny.c that just got checked in to uclibc. reminds me of http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html |
| 03:23:44 | pmisfit | can i ask an mtd question here? |
| 03:28:36 | pmisfit | since i gather that SpaceCoaster knows more about it than most folks ;-) |
| 03:36:56 | pmisfit | whoops.. think i answered it myself again. |
| 03:37:31 | SpaceCoaster | pmisfit: hi, hows it going? |
| 03:51:30 | Keyser | GPSFan: I got disconnected. I was about to say (or maybe it went through) that I did build Blob 2.0.4 from CVS |
| 03:51:59 | Keyser | I also got the picogui buildroot to work (finally). |
| 05:20:06 | Keyser | . |
| 05:47:58 | GPSFan | Keyse:r did you reflash blob with the one you built? |
| 09:22:05 | raymond | Good morning all |
| 09:29:41 | raymond | Good morning |
| 14:50:29 | raymond | Hey file |
| 14:53:43 | file | good day. |
| 14:54:16 | raymond | Did you eventually bought a present for your mom (christmas ;) |
| 14:54:21 | file | yup |
| 14:54:31 | raymond | Was she happy |
| 14:54:39 | file | a dog figurine, some scented candles, a chocolate bar, and a card |
| 14:54:56 | file | she was happy yes |
| 14:55:29 | file | is going to a Coffee Meet in a few hours... |
| 14:55:57 | file | #define COFFEE_MEET A meeting at a Tim Horton's location where people from a certain IRC channel gather to talk, and drink coffee. |
| 14:56:18 | file | thank the lord it's a Tim Hortons/Wendy's - A Number 7 biggie sized for me :) |
| 14:56:37 | raymond | ? |
| 14:56:46 | file | what. |
| 14:56:56 | raymond | Tim Horton |
| 14:57:04 | raymond | location |
| 14:57:04 | file | um, it's like Starbucks? |
| 14:57:13 | raymond | Ah |
| 14:57:31 | file | know what Wendy's is? |
| 14:57:36 | raymond | nope |
| 14:57:48 | file | fast food |
| 14:57:51 | raymond | Ah |
| 14:57:55 | file | like McDonalds, except more expensive |
| 14:58:02 | raymond | :) |
| 14:58:22 | file | a number 7 biggie sized is an extra large pop, extra large fries, and a chicken burger |
| 14:58:59 | file | Comes to: $7.11 CAD |
| 14:59:11 | raymond | And extra large is probably bigger then here |
| 14:59:29 | file | it's... huge |
| 14:59:30 | file | and salty |
| 15:00:43 | file | oh bah |
| 15:00:48 | file | now I have the sun in my eyes! |
| 15:01:08 | raymond | What's sun? We had clouds the whole week |
| 15:01:15 | file | haha |
| 15:01:46 | file | it's been snowing here... |
| 15:02:19 | raymond | we did not have snow here this year |
| 15:02:28 | raymond | day before new years eve we had some |
| 15:03:03 | file | nods |
| 15:04:34 | raymond | hopes tinyX will finally build properly |
| 15:05:02 | file | good luck |
| 15:05:08 | raymond | Thanks |
| 15:05:36 | raymond | succeeded once |
| 15:06:04 | raymond | Now I tried with newer uClibc |
| 15:06:05 | file | frowns unhappily |
| 15:06:47 | raymond | but the first time not everything worked OK |
| 15:07:14 | raymond | X server worked tough |
| 15:07:51 | file | ever try dietlibc? |
| 15:08:00 | raymond | No? |
| 15:08:18 | raymond | I'm pretty new to this |
| 15:08:24 | file | supposed to be REALLY small |
| 15:08:35 | file | doesn't have everything though |
| 15:09:19 | raymond | x buildfirst failed because uClibc didn't have __ctype_get_mb_cur_type |
| 15:09:32 | raymond | or something |
| 15:09:42 | file | uh huh |
| 15:10:39 | raymond | and now it fails again :( |
| 15:10:53 | file | sucks... |
| 15:11:03 | raymond | yes, on mblen etc. |
| 15:11:11 | raymond | Which I ofcourse commented out |
| 15:11:24 | file | laughs |
| 15:12:19 | raymond | Going to try the other toolchain I installed |
| 15:19:24 | raymond | BTW Do you maybe know how to get the touchscreen to work in TinyX? |
| 15:20:04 | file | laughs |
| 15:20:19 | raymond | wonders why |
| 15:20:31 | file | it's just amusing |
| 15:20:37 | raymond | :) |
| 15:20:43 | file | I should go. |
| 15:20:56 | raymond | Have fun |
| 18:38:13 | Morn | is away: lunch time! |
| 20:51:56 | Keyser | has anyone gotten two PCMCIA cards to fit in their tux, if one is type III? |
| 20:52:31 | Keyser | i've been looking for a cable that would attach to the socket, and to a card, so that a PCMCIA HD could sit in the empty space in the tux's case |
| 20:53:09 | Keyser | PCMCIA is apparently 2 rows of 34 pins, spaced 0.05" (1.27mm) horizontally and vertically |
| 20:55:36 | Keyser | anyone know where i could get a ribbon cable with that pin spacing? |
| 22:01:39 | KeyserSoze | anyone here? |
| 22:02:16 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: I'm sorta half awake... |
| 22:05:06 | KeyserSoze | hey |
| 22:05:14 | KeyserSoze | did you ask me a question last night? |
| 22:05:20 | KeyserSoze | i can't remember if i answered. |
| 22:05:49 | KeyserSoze | anyway, i was mostly looking for someone who's done the PCMCIA 5V hack |
| 22:05:55 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: yes, I had to go before you answered. did your rebuilt blob2.0.4 work? |
| 22:06:02 | GPSFan | I have. |
| 22:06:07 | KeyserSoze | yup, the blob worked |
| 22:06:21 | GPSFan | from the CVS sources? |
| 22:06:25 | KeyserSoze | yes |
| 22:06:47 | KeyserSoze | maybe CVS changed since last week? are you having problems with blob? |
| 22:07:28 | GPSFan | Hmmm. I recompiled and when I download & flash it it won't run, I have to jatg the original back. what size was it 14056? |
| 22:08:21 | KeyserSoze | 14060 for me |
| 22:08:57 | GPSFan | that's the size of mind that doesn't work. that's wierd. |
| 22:09:19 | KeyserSoze | you're working one is 14056? |
| 22:09:40 | KeyserSoze | ah, shit. sorry. i built the blob, but never flashed it. |
| 22:09:59 | KeyserSoze | i kept the blob i got in download/v0.4, AFAIK |
| 22:10:36 | KeyserSoze | yeah, i only flashed a new kernel and FS. |
| 22:10:45 | GPSFan | sorry 14054. mine compiled ok. be careful if you try to flash it. have your jtag handy. |
| 22:11:06 | KeyserSoze | i don't have a JTAG. i think i'll keep the blob i have. |
| 22:11:39 | KeyserSoze | i do have blob 2.0.4, though. it must have come in the binary dowload i got. |
| 22:11:45 | GPSFan | good thought. re PCMCIA, there are extender kits, & PCMCIA-IDE adapters that have a longish cable. |
| 22:12:21 | GPSFan | so you can put a big drive into the little hole. |
| 22:12:53 | KeyserSoze | i have a type III drive, already. it's annoying that it's electrically compatible, but won't physically fit. |
| 22:13:29 | GPSFan | I have an Integral 170M type III and it fits & works, but blocks the other slot. |
| 22:13:55 | KeyserSoze | yeas, that's what i have too, and that's what i meant. ethernet is necessary |
| 22:14:48 | GPSFan | I used a trick some years ago. one socket was upside down, so the HDD that went in the lower slot extended down rather than up, and the top slot was accessable. |
| 22:15:01 | KeyserSoze | i looked at the connector/ejector for the bottom PCMCIA slot, and noticed that if it flipped to face the other direction, and the device mounted in it is flipped upside down, too, then all the pins will line up |
| 22:15:45 | KeyserSoze | how do you flip a socket upside down? |
| 22:15:53 | GPSFan | you need an inverse socket for that to work. |
| 22:16:05 | KeyserSoze | ah! do you know where i can procure such a beast? |
| 22:17:15 | GPSFan | There are several pcmcia socket manufacturers. I don't think it would be possible to convert the tux, since the pinnout backwards too. |
| 22:17:39 | GPSFan | the system I was talking about was designed from scratch that way. |
| 22:17:49 | KeyserSoze | I think i'm going to go ahead with the 180degree flip (so the slot faces into the tuxscreen, instead of towards the little door), and then mount the HD upside down in the slot. |
| 22:18:11 | KeyserSoze | the HD won't have to come out ever, anyway. but i'll have to cut a lot of plastic that's in the way, to get it in there. |
| 22:18:58 | GPSFan | It's been a while, but a few mfgr's I remember are Fujitsu, Dupont, Methode, Hitichi. |
| 22:19:28 | KeyserSoze | did you see the picture at http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view//PCMCIA-5V ? |
| 22:19:50 | GPSFan | see it? I took it... |
| 22:19:57 | KeyserSoze | great! |
| 22:20:03 | KeyserSoze | what are the little x's? |
| 22:20:44 | KeyserSoze | GPSFan == KenMcguire? |
| 22:20:50 | GPSFan | they indicate you should remove the resistor under it. |
| 22:20:56 | GPSFan | yep... |
| 22:21:28 | KeyserSoze | oh! your wiki page doesn't say your IRC name, so i didn't know. |
| 22:21:39 | GPSFan | yep... |
| 22:23:10 | KeyserSoze | do i need the diode if i only want to hardwire a slot to 5V? or is that to make 5v and 3.3v work? |
| 22:24:02 | GPSFan | nope, the diode is only if you want to be able to revert to 3.3V. I just hardwired both of my sockets. I don't have any 3.3V cards. |
| 22:25:29 | KeyserSoze | to hardwire bottom slot, all i need to do is remove the the resistor, and connect the yellow circle to the 3rd socket tab down? |
| 22:26:10 | GPSFan | correct. |
| 22:27:16 | KeyserSoze | do i just pull the resistor out, or do i need to melt solder off it first? |
| 22:28:46 | GPSFan | it doesn't just pull off, try a wide tip iron, and heat it till both ends melt. alternately you could cut the trace between the circular pad and the left side of R338 |
| 22:29:53 | KeyserSoze | i think i'll cut the trace then. do i just scratch it away? |
| 22:30:43 | GPSFan | use an Xacto knife and cut a small gap in the trace then lift toe copper off. |
| 22:32:54 | KeyserSoze | prepares to show his ignorance.. |
| 22:32:57 | KeyserSoze | copper? |
| 22:33:08 | GPSFan | the trace is copper. |
| 22:34:09 | GPSFan | you have to solder the wire on anyway, try to heat up the resistor and see if you can get it off. |
| 22:37:00 | KeyserSoze | okay. my soldering iron is warming up... |
| 22:38:38 | GPSFan | make the change to sa1100_shannon.c too to get rid of the Bad VCC message. |
| 22:39:13 | KeyserSoze | gotcha |
| 22:44:55 | KeyserSoze | i just put the tip right on top of the resistor, right? |
| 22:46:13 | GPSFan | try to get part of the tip on each end. the resistor is ceramic, and will heat up after a bit. then try to push it off the pads with the tip. |
| 22:46:31 | GPSFan | ymmv. ;>) |
| 22:47:20 | Morn | is away: dinner time |
| 22:49:14 | KeyserSoze | my god, but that's a little resistor! |
| 22:51:07 | GPSFan | that's a 0603 style, 0402 is smaller. 0603's are ablut the smallest you can deal with without a microscipe. |
| 22:51:25 | GPSFan | s/microscipe/microscope |
| 22:51:58 | GPSFan | man, I can't type today, time for a beer. mmmm! |
| 22:58:37 | GPSFan | bbiab. |
| 23:04:49 | Russ | opens /dev/microscope |
| 23:05:56 | KeyserSoze | perhaps a silly question. can i solder the wire to either side of the board? |
| 23:23:33 | RedBeard- | seen bzflag |
| 23:35:17 | KeyserSoze | fails miserably at soldering, and decides to give up. |