| 00:00:55 | KeyserSoze | ErikAndersen? |
| 00:00:55 | CosmicPenguin | Did Lineo bail on its support for tinylogin? |
| 00:01:00 | KeyserSoze | i dunno |
| 00:01:17 | KeyserSoze | i searched their webpage, and found a rpm for it |
| 00:01:36 | KeyserSoze | but i think my makefile wants a tar.gz, and i don't know how to substitute |
| 00:02:29 | jacques | hi ho |
| 00:02:48 | KeyserSoze | hi |
| 00:06:46 | KeyserSoze | is ErikAndersen on here? |
| 00:07:24 | KeyserSoze | or maybe someone else has tinylogin.tar.gz, or knows where i can get it? |
| 00:12:05 | KeyserSoze | http://tinylogin.busybox.net/downloads/ |
| 00:12:08 | KeyserSoze | has it. |
| 00:15:40 | KeyserSoze | i downloaded the tar tinylogin-0.80.tar.gz and took of the -0.80, and then it untarred it. then i took the -0.80 off the dir it created, but now i get a compile error. maybe i should have got a different version? |
| 00:24:18 | KeyserSoze | aw, shucks. i never wanted to build my own tux kernel anyway... |
| 00:24:23 | KeyserSoze | i wanted to be... |
| 00:24:32 | KeyserSoze | a lumberjack |
| 00:28:00 | CosmicPenguin | ok, time to go buh-bye now.... :0 |
| 01:00:25 | mattdm | help! I'm working on getting linux installed on my tuxscreen, and i've run across something i'm a little concerned about. I followed the InfernoRemote instructions what I think was successfully, and installed blob... |
| 01:00:56 | mattdm | ... which boots fine, except when it gets to the "Autoboot in progress, press any key to stop" bit, pressing any key doesn't do anything.... |
| 01:01:11 | mattdm | it just goes on to "Starting kernel ... " and then sits there. No matter what I do. |
| 01:01:14 | mattdm | Any ideas? |
| 01:01:54 | KeyserSoze | is that the part where you are supposed to hit ctrl-a? |
| 01:02:17 | mattdm | no, past that. |
| 01:02:22 | mattdm | i'm in minicom |
| 01:03:07 | SpaceCoaster | mattdm: it doesn't wait for long. |
| 01:03:39 | mattdm | SpaceCoaster: i'm trying to hit keys really really quickly.... |
| 01:04:06 | mattdm | to no apparent avail |
| 01:04:28 | KeyserSoze | what speed are you at in minicom? |
| 01:04:59 | mattdm | it actually prints three dots after the "press any key to stop message", slowly, and then goes to "Starting kernel". Hitting keys during that doesn't do anything... |
| 01:05:10 | mattdm | KeyserSoze: 115200 |
| 01:05:13 | KeyserSoze | okay |
| 01:05:22 | mattdm | at 9600, i just get garbage. :) |
| 01:05:28 | KeyserSoze | yup. |
| 01:05:50 | mattdm | and everything was going so well.... |
| 01:06:16 | KeyserSoze | you've used the keyboard in previous steps, so you know the batteries are good? |
| 01:06:20 | SpaceCoaster | yes, you've got past the normally tricky bit |
| 01:06:48 | mattdm | KeyserSoze: wait -- I'm typing at the minicom console! |
| 01:07:05 | KeyserSoze | oops, nevermind |
| 01:07:11 | SpaceCoaster | my minicom status line says "115200 8N1 | NOR", just for info |
| 01:07:25 | mattdm | SpaceCoaster: exact same. |
| 01:07:58 | mattdm | md5sum of the blob image (from v0.4) was good... |
| 01:08:04 | KeyserSoze | hardware flow control: no & software flow control: no? |
| 01:08:16 | SpaceCoaster | mattdm: never work with animals, children or serial ports. |
| 01:08:18 | mattdm | KeyserSoze: lemme check |
| 01:08:57 | KeyserSoze | i just rebooted mine. i hit enter (on my pc, in minicom), and it stopped the boot and gave me a blob prompt |
| 01:09:38 | SpaceCoaster | how do you alter flow control in minicom? |
| 01:09:53 | KeyserSoze | minicom -os to start it |
| 01:09:55 | mattdm | SpaceCoaster: i'm figuring that out right now. :) |
| 01:09:57 | KeyserSoze | it puts up a menu |
| 01:10:10 | KeyserSoze | it's the same place where you set the speed, i think |
| 01:10:16 | mattdm | ok, it was set to hardware yes, softwre no |
| 01:10:33 | mattdm | you can also change the speed in the program as a user with ctrl-a P |
| 01:10:48 | SpaceCoaster | mattdm: I use hardware no, software no |
| 01:10:59 | KeyserSoze | try no, no. i think that that is what Tim's write-up meant, where he said "no handshaking" |
| 01:11:01 | mattdm | hmm, i'll try that. |
| 01:11:55 | mattdm | hah! |
| 01:11:59 | mattdm | that worked! |
| 01:12:40 | KeyserSoze | great! |
| 01:12:59 | mattdm | thank you both very much. hmmm. perhaps a note should be added to the wiki making that more obvious? |
| 01:14:01 | KeyserSoze | that sounds like a good idea. |
| 01:14:17 | KeyserSoze | do you already have kernel and fs images? |
| 01:14:32 | mattdm | yeah, time to upload them. :) |
| 01:14:51 | mattdm | or download. depending on point of view. |
| 01:14:52 | KeyserSoze | i think you have to make sure you're user belongs to group tty |
| 01:15:15 | mattdm | yeah, i got that figured out |
| 01:15:21 | KeyserSoze | ah, good. |
| 01:15:41 | mattdm | ok, off to play. thanks again, and i'm sure i'll be back. :) |
| 01:37:43 | scanline | is back (gone 04:58:58) |
| 01:43:21 | jacques | yawns. |
| 01:58:31 | | GoRK was last seen on #tuxscreen 22 days, 33 seconds ago, saying: hmm it used to be there [Tue Dec 18 01:57:58 2001] |
| 01:58:31 | scanline | ibot, seen GoRK? |
| 01:58:55 | mattdm | cool! I got linux up and running! |
| 01:59:17 | file | good for you |
| 01:59:23 | mattdm | however (there's always a however, right?) it only seems to be seeing slightly less than 6MB (5920k, to be exact) of RAM.... |
| 01:59:36 | | ramdisk is exactly the same size as the flash. It would be very close. Perhaps NFS mount my host? |
| 01:59:36 | file | ramdisk? |
| 01:59:39 | mattdm | is that normal? |
| 01:59:43 | mattdm | ahhhhhh. |
| 01:59:58 | | file: I forgot ramdisk |
| 01:59:58 | file | ibot: forget ramdisk |
| 02:00:00 | | no shut *your* fscking mouth up! |
| 02:00:00 | jacques | ibot: shut the hell up |
| 02:00:13 | mattdm | that is probably it. |
| 02:00:25 | mattdm | time to visit Crucial. :) |
| 02:00:30 | file | uh |
| 02:00:32 | file | see what's mounted. |
| 02:00:39 | BZFlag | mattdm: wiki updated. |
| 02:00:39 | Sammy | morning all :) |
| 02:00:43 | | Hiraghm? |
| 02:00:43 | Hiraghm | ibot |
| 02:00:46 | | Hiraghm? |
| 02:00:46 | Hiraghm | ibot |
| 02:00:58 | Hiraghm | waves near BZ |
| 02:01:23 | BZFlag | waves |
| 02:01:23 | Sammy | BZFlag: I sent it .... check ? |
| 02:01:27 | mattdm | BZFlag -- cool. next time, i won't get so confused. :) |
| 02:02:17 | BZFlag | Sammy: wire transfer? paypal? what's "it" ? |
| 02:02:38 | BZFlag | mattdm: the wiki is editable... please edit and fix things you find unclear. |
| 02:02:45 | BZFlag | grins |
| 02:02:57 | file | mattdm: or make it even more unclear |
| 02:03:14 | BZFlag | smacks fill over the head with a TuxScreen |
| 02:03:17 | mattdm | BZFlag: ok, I shall. I'm pretty new to all this, so I didn't want to step on things |
| 02:03:18 | BZFlag | er file... |
| 02:03:27 | file | takes the TuxScreen and runs |
| 02:03:28 | mattdm | file: yeah, thanks |
| 02:03:55 | file | BZFlag: Any Canadians buy a TuxScreen? |
| 02:03:56 | BZFlag | heh it was this one.... http://TuxScreen.net/img/mvc-572f.jpg |
| 02:04:11 | BZFlag | yes, 5 or so iirc |
| 02:04:19 | file | bah |
| 02:04:40 | KeyserSoze | i don't think the US lets Canadians buy tuxscreens. Something about advancing their military technology too much... |
| 02:04:42 | BZFlag | I've shipped like 40 to korea by now. |
| 02:04:53 | file | haha Keyser |
| 02:04:56 | file | Korea eh? bah |
| 02:05:12 | Sammy | BZFlag: wire transfer |
| 02:05:26 | BZFlag | Sammy: when did you send it? today? |
| 02:05:40 | file | wire transfer's take a few days, I think |
| 02:05:47 | BZFlag | yep |
| 02:05:47 | Sammy | BZFlag: yesterday |
| 02:06:09 | file | BZFlag: I'd buy a TuxScreen except it's too much for me... |
| 02:06:22 | file | and I wouldn't be able to download anything to it :) |
| 02:06:51 | BZFlag | you could buy a cerfboard for 5000 usd. ;-) |
| 02:06:53 | Sammy | maybe two days ... |
| 02:06:54 | Hiraghm | nods |
| 02:06:56 | KeyserSoze | file: no web access? |
| 02:07:07 | | well, microwindows is at http://microwindows.org |
| 02:07:07 | Hiraghm | ibot microwindows? |
| 02:07:15 | Hiraghm | thanks ibot |
| 02:07:15 | file | KeyserSoze: I suppose so, how do you download to it? |
| 02:07:21 | | Hiraghm: pas de quoi |
| 02:07:21 | Hiraghm | ibot I said thanks |
| 02:07:23 | | BZFlag: I forgot microwindows |
| 02:07:23 | BZFlag | ibot: forget microwindows |
| 02:07:39 | Hiraghm | kicks BZFlag |
| 02:07:48 | Hiraghm | Why'd you do that? |
| 02:07:50 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 02:07:50 | BZFlag | ibot: microwindows is at http://MicroWindows.org/ |
| 02:08:10 | BZFlag | url's have trailing backslashes after hostnames. |
| 02:08:10 | jacques | hi BZFlag |
| 02:08:14 | file | waves to BZFlag |
| 02:08:19 | KeyserSoze | shouldn't micro have a small 'm'? |
| 02:08:29 | BZFlag | hehe. perhaps. |
| 02:08:30 | Hiraghm | scowls at BZFlag, ready to whine and gripe. |
| 02:08:34 | KeyserSoze | i mean, Megawindows would use the large one. |
| 02:08:48 | Hiraghm | wot's Megawindows? |
| 02:08:51 | BZFlag | the web site actually says "Microwindows" ;-) |
| 02:09:01 | file | I spy with my little eye BZFlag in this photo. |
| 02:09:07 | BZFlag | jacques: heya |
| 02:09:12 | mattdm | mixed-case domain names are lame. |
| 02:09:31 | file | BZFlag: Nice car *G* |
| 02:09:44 | BZFlag | http://rikers.org/timr-christ.jpg <- this one? |
| 02:09:53 | file | nope |
| 02:10:01 | file | looking at the postal run on the tuxscreen site |
| 02:10:12 | BZFlag | hehe. yep. that was a large load. |
| 02:10:25 | | BZFlag: I forgot microwindows |
| 02:10:25 | BZFlag | ibot: forget microwindows |
| 02:10:29 | file | did your car go KAPLUNK half-way there? |
| 02:10:32 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 02:10:32 | BZFlag | ibot: microwindows is at http://microwindows.org/ |
| 02:10:43 | | it has been said that microwindows is at http://microwindows.org/ |
| 02:10:43 | Hiraghm | ibot microwindows? |
| 02:10:47 | Hiraghm | by whom? |
| 02:11:09 | BZFlag | file: nope. it's fine. well, ok, it has a power steering leak, but not cause of the tuxes |
| 02:11:10 | | file: bugger all, i dunno |
| 02:11:10 | file | ibot NanoGUI? |
| 02:11:17 | Hiraghm | I still have nano-X on mine. |
| 02:11:19 | file | BZFlag: good |
| 02:11:25 | jacques | i have x on mine |
| 02:11:29 | jacques | but cannot use the ts |
| 02:11:32 | jacques | GRRRRRR |
| 02:11:33 | Hiraghm | scratches his head |
| 02:11:49 | Hiraghm | hm. I have picoGUI on mine, that's it. |
| 02:12:01 | Hiraghm | I haven't even taken a look at my tuxscreen since I was last here 8c( |
| 02:12:07 | Hiraghm | been too buzy. |
| 02:12:09 | file | Hiraghm: I'll take it |
| 02:12:23 | file | :) |
| 02:12:40 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 02:12:40 | BZFlag | ibot: nanogui is the old name for microwindows |
| 02:13:06 | | hmmm... nanogui is the old name for microwindows |
| 02:13:06 | KeyserSoze | nanogui? |
| 02:13:07 | | you are ready :-) |
| 02:13:07 | file | ibot file? |
| 02:13:18 | | file: I forgot file |
| 02:13:18 | file | ibot forget file |
| 02:13:21 | jacques | spider:~# w |
| 02:13:22 | jacques | 18:11:14 up 85 days, 15:38, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 02:13:27 | jacques | heh, that's my ipaq |
| 02:13:27 | | OK, file. |
| 02:13:27 | file | ibot: file is a happy Philips Nino user |
| 02:14:10 | file | BZFlag: What was that other device you might get? |
| 02:14:51 | jacques | other device? |
| 02:14:52 | KeyserSoze | i think it was called a "Monster Miata" |
| 02:15:00 | file | yeah |
| 02:15:06 | file | iPhone 2050 |
| 02:16:01 | jacques | heh |
| 02:16:05 | jacques | i have a miata |
| 02:16:08 | jacques | but not a monster |
| 02:16:21 | jacques | th oi may turbo it soon |
| 02:16:38 | file | pokes BZFlag |
| 02:17:00 | KeyserSoze | i think i'd prefer the ford 5.0, perhaps supercharged. |
| 02:17:17 | BZFlag | yep. I'd really like a monster miata. |
| 02:17:19 | jacques | yeah, if it could be made light enough |
| 02:17:23 | KeyserSoze | i heard that the inline 4 in the miata has a cast-iron block, and is suprisingly heavy. |
| 02:17:30 | jacques | dont want to upset the blance |
| 02:17:43 | jacques | well it's not aluminum |
| 02:17:44 | KeyserSoze | as is the tranny. so swapping to a v8 and t5 doesn't add as much weight as you'd expect. |
| 02:17:57 | jacques | the tranny is al |
| 02:18:02 | BZFlag | that's what a monster miata is. a miata with a partial frame added and a ford stang 5.0 drive train. |
| 02:18:02 | file | BZFlag: Bah |
| 02:18:15 | jacques | i am torn |
| 02:18:33 | jacques | the sleeper factor of a fast miata is really appealing |
| 02:18:33 | KeyserSoze | it's a good idea, in theory. but should use a chevy engine, not ford :p |
| 02:18:41 | file | the iPhone looks... interesting |
| 02:18:50 | jacques | hell, stick a 32V al v8 in there |
| 02:18:50 | file | talks to himself |
| 02:19:05 | BZFlag | KeyserSoze: the ford mount points are the same, it required less mods. |
| 02:19:08 | jacques | ppl were talking about that but they are too tall |
| 02:19:19 | jacques | (the 32v angines) |
| 02:19:38 | jacques | i would want to see the cost tho |
| 02:19:56 | jacques | tho turbo systems are expensive when you are getting to the hight end |
| 02:20:09 | KeyserSoze | i'll let you borrow my chevy LS1 v8, to try it out, but i'd need it back in a few days |
| 02:20:16 | jacques | or i might just get a 3rd gen rx7 |
| 02:20:24 | KeyserSoze | ooh, very nice. |
| 02:20:45 | jacques | try to find a r2 that hasnt been thrashed too badly |
| 02:21:32 | KeyserSoze | the only one i ever test drove didn't have any boost, so it was a dog. but 255hp in a 2800lb car will give plenty of oomph. |
| 02:22:00 | jacques | they take higher boost well |
| 02:22:10 | jacques | and unlike the miata, they are rigid enough to handle the power |
| 02:22:22 | jacques | tho they do like to go through engines |
| 02:22:57 | BZFlag | jacques: heh, hence the required partial frame and roll cage to try (and I mean try) to keep the miata from twisting. ;-) |
| 02:23:01 | KeyserSoze | i hear the downpipes and cats clog up easy, and then the heat kills the motor. |
| 02:23:14 | file | thwaps BZFlag with a newspaper |
| 02:23:17 | file | Answer me?!#$?@$%?&$%&?*$%^&* |
| 02:23:48 | BZFlag | what's the ? |
| 02:24:13 | jacques | BZFlag: heah |
| 02:24:15 | file | Are you ever going to be selling iPhone's? |
| 02:28:57 | file | .... |
| 02:31:48 | BZFlag | file: no. |
| 02:32:44 | KeyserSoze | how about monster miatas? maybe they need a dealership? |
| 02:42:00 | Hiraghm | hm. where can I find out more about the tux port of microwindows? |
| 02:45:53 | KeyserSoze | like what? |
| 02:46:04 | | microwindows is at http://microwindows.org/ |
| 02:46:04 | KeyserSoze | ibot: microwindows? |
| 02:46:09 | KeyserSoze | :) |
| 02:46:21 | Hiraghm | didn't see anything there about the tux port |
| 02:46:26 | | spd_racer911: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 02:46:26 | spd_racer911 | ibot: weather ? |
| 02:46:37 | Hiraghm | I can't remember why now but I went with picoGUI cause microwindows wasn't working. |
| 02:46:47 | | i don't know, hiraghm |
| 02:46:47 | Hiraghm | ibot spd_racer911? |
| 02:46:52 | | i heard Hiraghm was Extra Terrestrial Imports or a small furry alien |
| 02:46:52 | Hiraghm | ibot Hiraghm? |
| 02:47:08 | spd_racer911 | Microwindows worked for me |
| 02:47:11 | Hiraghm | pokes ibot |
| 02:47:14 | KeyserSoze | Hiraghm: microwindows works on the tux, for me too. |
| 02:47:16 | spd_racer911 | As did PicoGui |
| 02:47:17 | Hiraghm | great! where do I get the tux binary? |
| 02:47:27 | KeyserSoze | tuxscreen.net/downloads |
| 02:47:31 | Hiraghm | nonono... must be binary. |
| 02:47:33 | Hiraghm | grins |
| 02:47:34 | KeyserSoze | v0.4 |
| 02:47:39 | KeyserSoze | it's in there |
| 02:47:51 | KeyserSoze | that's the one i have, right now. |
| 02:48:08 | spd_racer911 | yep it's in there...are you running the newest kernel? |
| 02:48:19 | Hiraghm | gnot found |
| 02:48:29 | Hiraghm | probably gnot |
| 02:48:48 | KeyserSoze | http://www.tuxscreen.net/download/v0.4/ |
| 02:48:49 | Hiraghm | almost certainly not. like I said, it's been a couple weeks since I even thought about it. |
| 02:49:11 | KeyserSoze | get kernel, and the jffs2 with "microwindows" in the name |
| 02:49:39 | KeyserSoze | "tuxscreen-kernel" and "microwin-image.jffs2", even |
| 02:49:57 | spd_racer911 | some tuxscreens touchscreens need a kick...look for "touchscreen" on Wiki |
| 02:50:27 | Hiraghm | hm. wonder if I need to update my blob |
| 02:50:54 | Hiraghm | hope gnot |
| 02:51:12 | spd_racer911 | no, look at "The Touch Screen bug is no more " on http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/touchscreen |
| 02:51:31 | KeyserSoze | i used the blob from v0.4, too, without problems. ran at 115200 the whole time. |
| 02:55:54 | spd_racer911 | Anybody ran there tuxscreens at 206 Mhz ? |
| 02:56:04 | KeyserSoze | not I |
| 02:56:06 | spd_racer911 | (their) tuxscreens... |
| 02:56:17 | spd_racer911 | I would like to try |
| 02:56:37 | spd_racer911 | I need to look at the clocking section of the StrongArm datasheet |
| 02:57:56 | spd_racer911 | anybody else tried 206 Mhz ? |
| 02:58:07 | KeyserSoze | where's the wiki link for it? |
| 03:29:37 | jacques | i heard there were memory timing problems at that speed |
| 03:30:30 | KeyserSoze | do you know how to set it? |
| 03:31:35 | jacques | first, are you guys talking about under linux or inferno? |
| 03:31:48 | KeyserSoze | linux, hopefully. |
| 03:32:00 | KeyserSoze | i want 206mhz, but not bad enough to put inferno back on. |
| 03:32:32 | BZFlag | should do 206 under linux, but the mem timing need to be changed. |
| 03:32:45 | BZFlag | cpu scaling should work too, so that's what we should do. |
| 03:32:46 | BZFlag | cya |
| 03:32:51 | KeyserSoze | is it a hardware change, or a software change? |
| 03:37:25 | spd_racer911 | I found the stuff in the blob assembler...I will try some stuff using the clock command from blob... |
| 03:37:47 | spd_racer911 | also linux/arch/arm/mach-sa1100/cpu-sa1100.c |
| 03:38:37 | spd_racer911 | ...software..everything is software... |
| 03:42:47 | jacques | yep software |
| 04:55:47 | KeyserSoze | anyone in here? |
| 04:56:23 | KeyserSoze | i've got a build root error. i don't get it when i leave "GUI=" blank, but do when i put "GUI=picogui" |
| 04:56:31 | KeyserSoze | /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 jconfig.h /include/jconfig.h |
| 04:56:31 | KeyserSoze | /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/include/jconfig.h': No such file or directory |
| 04:56:56 | KeyserSoze | is it trying to write to /install?? right off of root? because i don't have one of those. |
| 05:14:09 | KeyserSoze | hey BZFlag. |
| 05:14:20 | KeyserSoze | you know how buildroot works? |
| 05:15:32 | BZFlag | yessir |
| 05:15:39 | KeyserSoze | i get this error message: |
| 05:15:52 | KeyserSoze | . |
| 05:16:07 | KeyserSoze | weird. i got a bunch of red lines in my irc window |
| 05:16:17 | KeyserSoze | /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 jconfig.h /include/jconfig.h |
| 05:16:17 | KeyserSoze | /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/include/jconfig.h': No such file or directory |
| 05:16:53 | KeyserSoze | I'm reading the jpeg-6b Makefile, now. |
| 05:17:10 | KeyserSoze | the error only happens when i try to build for picogui. a non-gui build works fine |
| 05:18:25 | KeyserSoze | okay: |
| 05:18:40 | KeyserSoze | prefix = |
| 05:18:43 | KeyserSoze | and then: |
| 05:18:49 | KeyserSoze | includedir = $(prefix)/include |
| 05:23:20 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag? |
| 05:25:04 | spd_racer911 | BZFlag: you were correct 191.7 MHz PPCR_reg=9 127.38 BogoMips <-- Tuxscreen blob 0.4 default |
| 05:25:15 | GPSFan | BZFlag: I got my tux running at 206MHz! it was not hard at all. I used the blob "clock" command. but "clock" in blob 2.0.4 is broke, so I used blob 2.0.5. which I "reblobed" instead of flashing. then booted into Linux and 137.21 bogomips. |
| 05:26:01 | KeyserSoze | is there a way to automate that? |
| 05:26:12 | KeyserSoze | or do you have to hit a key at bootup, to get the blob prompt? |
| 05:26:40 | spd_racer911 | I am pretty sure my blob is 2.0.4 and it dows work....I just tried the same thing and got 137.21 bogoMips |
| 05:26:47 | spd_racer911 | (does work) |
| 05:27:12 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: you used PPCR=a. |
| 05:27:20 | spd_racer911 | now on to try 221.2 |
| 05:27:30 | KeyserSoze | i haven't seen anyone talk in here for 1 hour 50 minutues. is that correct? |
| 05:27:36 | GPSFan | spd_racer911 and the rest of the reg's as the same. |
| 05:27:40 | spd_racer911 | GPSFan: that is correct PPCR=0xA |
| 05:28:38 | KeyserSoze | 1:30, more precisely. maybe i'm paranoid. it feels like i missed something since then. |
| 05:28:43 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: I looked at sa1100.c from the LART people, and found that hte mdcasX reg's were the same for 206 as the shannon's for 191, so I just changed the PPCR. |
| 05:29:29 | KeyserSoze | wonders if he is invisible |
| 05:29:33 | spd_racer911 | GPSFan: yep, I was looking at the source also...man it is create to have the source! |
| 05:30:04 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: I couldn't get my blob2.0.4 to accept the hex #'s I typed them in several times and always got an error, but 2.0.5 worked every time. |
| 05:30:21 | KeyserSoze | hello? |
| 05:30:46 | KeyserSoze | can you guys see me? |
| 05:31:16 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: hi, sorry I've been getting bumped off the channed a lot, my ISP just upgraded their servers and are having config problems. |
| 05:31:50 | KeyserSoze | from my end, it looked like you where here the whole time |
| 05:32:07 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag? |
| 05:32:29 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: a lot of the time I think I'm there too, uuntill I go to type something. |
| 05:32:30 | BZFlag | GPSFan: send the memtimings to the list and I'll change blob in cvs. |
| 05:32:50 | spd_racer911 | GPSFan: blob 2.0.4 likes [0-9a-f] only...that's lower case! |
| 05:33:03 | BZFlag | and get 221.2 working! ;-) |
| 05:33:10 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag? |
| 05:33:31 | GPSFan | BZFlag: all you have to do is change the PPCR from 0x9 to 0xa in start.S in blob. |
| 05:33:53 | GPSFan | BZFlag: it's labeled as cpuspeed |
| 05:34:41 | GPSFan | cpuspeed: .long 0x09 /* 191.7MHz *? |
| 05:35:04 | GPSFan | change to 0x0a /* 206.4 MHz 8? |
| 05:35:42 | GPSFan | s/8?/*/ |
| 05:36:33 | GPSFan | BZFlag: I tried 221 with the same mem timings, and blob would run but Linux wouldn't load. ;>( |
| 05:36:34 | KeyserSoze | sorry to be annyoing, but can anyone see this? if so, have you seen the other 15 messages where is said "can you see me", and maybe thought i was loony? |
| 05:37:22 | jacques | KeyserSoze: i see you |
| 05:37:28 | KeyserSoze | great. |
| 05:37:31 | KeyserSoze | thanks. |
| 05:37:43 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: I rejoined at 21:57 and have seen you talking since then. |
| 05:37:44 | jacques | can i run my tux at 300MHz if i liquid cool it? |
| 05:38:03 | jacques | or is the memory the limiting factor? |
| 05:38:03 | KeyserSoze | my liquid cooled athlon runs at 1ghz, so i don't see why not. |
| 05:38:09 | jacques | cool |
| 05:38:11 | jacques | :-D |
| 05:38:37 | KeyserSoze | a 1ghz, and 1.45, before i fried it. (with shoddy wiring, not heat or water) :) |
| 05:38:42 | KeyserSoze | and=at |
| 05:39:31 | GPSFan | jacques: wait for Cotulla if you want StrongArm speed ;>) |
| 05:41:26 | KeyserSoze | did everyone hear me whining about my buildroot problem? |
| 05:41:40 | KeyserSoze | (i'm not trying to be annoying, honest.) |
| 05:41:44 | GPSFan | KeyserSoze: yep |
| 05:42:32 | KeyserSoze | ah, good. being ostracized is better than not being heard at all :) |
| 05:51:02 | spd_racer911 | GPSFan: I also tried 221.2 Mhz...no go. |
| 05:51:57 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: same here, blob runs but Linux won't load. maybe we can tweak the mem timings, but I fear we may be pushing the cpu a bit. |
| 05:53:58 | spd_racer911 | GPSFan: I think we could tweak the mem timings. As far as the cpu speed and hurting it...( >Clk speed = >power ) as long as it does not get too hot...the cpu should be fine...but for me the 206 Mhz is ok. |
| 05:55:52 | spd_racer911 | If you are building a battery powered device, you can use the software clock scaling... there is an api in the kernel...look at linux/arch/arm/mach-sa1100/cpu-sa1100.c |
| 05:56:16 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: 206 is fine with me too, I wasn't woried about frying the cpu, but the AA steping that we have is only rated to 133. |
| 05:56:42 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: that's where I found the big table of timing parameters. |
| 05:56:51 | spd_racer911 | AA stepping ? |
| 05:57:16 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: that is the revision of the SA1100 that's in my tux. |
| 06:01:54 | GPSFan | spd_racer911: sorry AA isn't really the stepping, but the speed grade. AA is part of the E stepping. |
| 06:16:27 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag, did you see me question about buildroot-tux? |
| 06:19:06 | BZFlag | nope. |
| 06:19:19 | KeyserSoze | oh |
| 06:19:37 | KeyserSoze | it worked okay when i didn't set a gui |
| 06:19:52 | KeyserSoze | but when i did gui=picogui in makefile i got an error. |
| 06:20:28 | KeyserSoze | in Makefile in jpeg-6b, there is a line "prefix = " |
| 06:20:42 | KeyserSoze | so it sets "includedir = $(prefix)/include" |
| 06:21:01 | KeyserSoze | and tries to write to "/include" somwhere, which doesn't exists |
| 06:27:00 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag? |
| 06:43:12 | KeyserSoze | BZFlag? |
| 07:09:21 | BZFlag | Keyser[zzz]: ok, then the parent make should be setting prefix to something. probably root/usr or similar. |
| 07:17:21 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzZzZzzzzzzzzz |
| 12:42:14 | raymond | Hi |
| 13:57:33 | Morn | is away: doing something else |
| 14:11:46 | Morn | is away: showering (no peeking) |
| 14:48:04 | Morn | is back (gone 00:36:19) |
| 15:00:52 | tomdacat | can someone tell me how difficult it is to get networking to go on a tuxscreen? are the modules made for some popular cards? |
| 15:01:04 | tomdacat | i am going to be getting the netgear card |
| 15:02:51 | Niddix | I had no problems with the Netgear FA411. |
| 15:03:34 | Niddix | Just make sure the card you get is 3.3v unless your willing to do the 5v PCMCIA hack. |
| 15:04:39 | tomdacat | yeah, the netgear one is a 3.3v |
| 15:04:54 | tomdacat | does the tuxscreen just see the card and work as eth0?? |
| 15:05:11 | Niddix | Yeah. The drivers are there. |
| 15:05:15 | tomdacat | sweet |
| 15:05:24 | Niddix | You may have to fiddle with /.linuxrc |
| 15:06:27 | tomdacat | huh? |
| 15:07:32 | tomdacat | startup script? |
| 15:07:41 | Niddix | yes. |
| 15:07:49 | raymond | Just uncomment the ifconfig line in /linuxrc |
| 15:07:57 | raymond | worked for me (also netgear) |
| 15:07:58 | Niddix | Where the ip and subnet mask are assigned t othe card. |
| 15:08:54 | Niddix | The only networking issues I have is the udhcpc doesn't work against a Novell DHCP server. |
| 15:09:10 | tomdacat | eh, no concern to me |
| 15:09:20 | tomdacat | i am going to be netbooting it off of a slackware box |
| 15:09:45 | tomdacat | is the linuxrc file in root and hiden (/.)? |
| 15:10:01 | Niddix | Actually I don't think its hidden. |
| 15:10:12 | raymond | It's not hidden |
| 15:10:12 | Niddix | its just /linuxrc |
| 15:10:33 | raymond | Somebody here familiar with running Familiar? |
| 15:10:42 | Niddix | Unless its been changed recently there is a setup in there for a netboot off debian in there. |
| 15:11:07 | raymond | I can't get the Touchscreen working |
| 15:11:34 | Niddix | raymond: Sorry I am not familiar with Familiar. |
| 15:12:18 | tomdacat | ok, thanks |
| 15:40:10 | tomdacat | thanks for all of your help guys! |
| 16:17:35 | prpplague | anyone a midori linux user? |
| 16:18:32 | andersee | not I |
| 16:19:49 | prpplague | andersee: hmm, the docs on midori are somewhat vague on a lot of topics |
| 16:21:19 | andersee | Well, they don't have anybody at transmeta working on it anymore.... |
| 16:21:33 | prpplague | doh |
| 16:22:01 | prpplague | guess, i'm going to have to put together a small dist for the aquapad |
| 16:22:12 | andersee | As near as I can tell, they developed it, management decided to abandon it, so they dropped it on souceforge and walked away... |
| 16:23:27 | prpplague | that might explain the "undeveloped" feel that i've gotten for it on the aquapad |
| 16:31:26 | andersee | BTW, I duuno if folks have noticed, but hitting a ^C on the tuxscreen while running any application also kills the shell... |
| 16:31:35 | andersee | I just figured out why. |
| 16:32:37 | andersee | Turns out, ash was compiled with job control disabled.... |
| 16:36:05 | andersee | Hi CosmicPenguin |
| 16:36:14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Hi... how are things? |
| 16:36:22 | andersee | Ok. |
| 16:36:40 | andersee | BTW, have you noticed how hitting a ^C on the tuxscreen while running any application also kills the shell... |
| 16:36:41 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: And, BTW, I agree with you on the initramfs issue.... :) |
| 16:36:51 | andersee | hehe |
| 16:36:52 | andersee | :) |
| 16:36:57 | CosmicPenguin | Yep.... I've got that on all of my devices here.... |
| 16:37:02 | andersee | Turns out, ash was compiled with job control disabled.... |
| 16:37:17 | andersee | As of this morning, that is now a proper config option |
| 16:37:18 | CosmicPenguin | Doh! Is that a build option? |
| 16:37:23 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh..... |
| 16:37:24 | andersee | Is now |
| 16:37:36 | CosmicPenguin | That helps with stuff like ping... :) |
| 16:37:43 | andersee | And more |
| 16:37:48 | prpplague | lol, that can be annoying |
| 16:38:07 | prpplague | i ran into that problem on our tcsx series build |
| 16:38:12 | andersee | yeah, so anyway, update busybox and enable the config option and it'll behave itself |
| 16:38:42 | andersee | note to self. Enable the config option for the tuxscreen. |
| 16:52:43 | andersee | Howdy BZFlag |
| 16:56:23 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone know what the current kernel version for familiar 0.5 is? |
| 16:56:57 | andersee | Anyone know a good Linux tool to examine a drive sector by sector? |
| 16:56:59 | ctr | hey cp |
| 16:57:14 | ctr | andersee: cat /dev/hdfoo | more |
| 16:57:14 | ctr | =P |
| 16:57:30 | andersee | I guess I could use dd with skip... |
| 16:58:45 | CosmicPenguin | ctr - how are things? |
| 16:59:01 | ctr | not too bad |
| 16:59:05 | ctr | released 0.99.4 today :) |
| 16:59:16 | ctr | has only taken 2 months to get there :) |
| 16:59:28 | CosmicPenguin | I'll have to pull it down and take a look see |
| 17:00:31 | ctr | i had it almost building for arm-libc the other day |
| 17:03:26 | BZFlag | hexedit /dev/hdfoo ? |
| 17:14:50 | CosmicPenguin | So nobody knows what kernel the familiar 0.5 is using? |
| 18:32:47 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: has the new busybox been posted yet? |
| 18:33:56 | CosmicPenguin | oops, guess not |
| 18:37:53 | andersee | yeah, I ran a manual update this morning |
| 18:38:54 | andersee | So the snapshot does have that config option now |
| 18:45:40 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh... the snapshot.... |
| 18:45:43 | CosmicPenguin | now it becomes clear |
| 21:15:31 | CosmicPenguin | It seems that people want the whole kitchen sink in their initramfs..... I though that was why we bailed on ramdisks in the first place.... |
| 21:16:22 | EGg0 | is away: sudden memory of things! |
| 21:43:43 | ctr | hdl: dont irc as root. |
| 21:43:54 | hdl | : |
| 21:56:31 | LFwerk | hullo |
| 22:12:29 | LFwerk | hello Keyser |
| 22:33:27 | Morn | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:33:40 | Morn | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 22:45:38 | scanline | is back (gone 15:28:18) |
| 23:03:51 | EGg0_away | is back (gone 01:47:26) |
| 23:42:32 | Keyser | BZFlag? |
| 23:45:27 | Keyser | hey, Russ. |
| 23:45:59 | Russ|werk | 'ello |
| 23:46:45 | Keyser | do you know much about buildroot? |
| 23:46:54 | Keyser | or did i already ask you, yesterday? |
| 23:47:22 | jacques | what's wrong with buildroot? |
| 23:47:58 | Keyser | i ran it with GUI=picogui, and got an undefined variable in the Makefile in jpeg-6b |
| 23:48:33 | Keyser | it ended up trying to write to /include (right off of the main "/") |
| 23:49:12 | jacques | ugh |
| 23:49:14 | jacques | :-\ |
| 23:49:17 | jacques | sounds brokeded |
| 23:49:33 | Keyser | do you know how to fix it? I *could* just fix the Makefile. |
