| 01:53:02 | | I haven't seen 'ibot', bhima |
| 01:53:02 | bhima | ibot: seen ibot? |
| 01:53:18 | Tangent | jacques_gone : Hey |
| 01:53:24 | | bhima: i'm not following you... |
| 01:53:24 | bhima | ibot: have a mirror |
| 01:53:42 | | thanks bhima :) |
| 01:53:42 | bhima | ibot: have a bot snack. |
| 01:56:51 | boodle | is back (gone 00:04:44) |
| 01:58:23 | bhima | boodle: have you heard of such a problem? those symlinks are annoyingly broken. |
| 01:58:24 | jacques | hi Tangent :-) |
| 01:59:28 | boodle | bhima: sorry? |
| 02:00:28 | bhima | boodle: ipkg install gives me symlinks pointing to "l" for the libraries. |
| 02:00:55 | bhima | and they claim to be created by kmem. |
| 02:01:27 | | jacques: bugger all, i dunno |
| 02:01:27 | jacques | ibot: do you know what time it is? |
| 02:01:34 | boodle | sorry, still don't follow.. what ipkg are you installing? |
| 02:01:35 | | jacques: i'm not following you... |
| 02:01:35 | jacques | ibot: it's sushi time |
| 02:02:34 | bhima | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 4 2022 libXrandr.so -> l |
| 02:02:34 | bhima | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 4 2022 libXrandr.so.1 -> l |
| 02:02:34 | bhima | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8224 Jun 11 2001 libXrandr.so.1.0 |
| 02:02:54 | bhima | (libfreetype is the one that gave its libraries a user of "kmem") |
| 02:03:18 | bhima | libstdc++ does the same thing now. |
| 02:03:33 | boodle | bhima: hmm, dunno.. are you using .05 or unstable feed? |
| 02:03:49 | bhima | 0.5.1, and I switched to the stable feed to see if it made a difference. |
| 02:06:11 | boodle | bhima: kernel version? |
| 02:06:21 | bhima | Linux familiar 2.4.16-rmk1 #77 Tue Dec 11 15:21:36 EST 2001 armv4l unknown |
| 02:07:01 | boodle | bhima: but is that hh9 variant? |
| 02:07:43 | bhima | I don't know. how can I find out? |
| 02:08:50 | boodle | if you do an ipkg update; ipkg upgrade, that should take you to hh9 (went in unstable feed very recently I think) |
| 02:09:09 | bhima | I don't have a working 'net connection for it right now. just console. |
| 02:09:17 | boodle | but still doubt that's really your problem.. ah ok. |
| 02:09:35 | bhima | (my wavelan card needs a newer bios to support WEP) |
| 02:09:58 | bhima | I have a 3com 802.11b card too, but it's not supported either. |
| 02:10:18 | bhima | when I have WEP-less wavelan, I won't have easy console access. |
| 02:10:24 | bhima | so I wanted to get X11 stuff up and running first. |
| 02:10:31 | bhima | then I can use my keyboard and wavelan. |
| 02:10:35 | boodle | try moving libs elsewhere and reinstalling with 'ipkg install' |
| 02:10:58 | bhima | all of libs, or just some? |
| 02:11:02 | boodle | (i always mv stuff to a 'bak' dir instead of deleting to undo) |
| 02:11:13 | bhima | oh, yeah, I don't like deleting stuff. |
| 02:11:14 | boodle | bhima: the libXrandr stuff |
| 02:11:36 | bhima | it's happening right this moment with brand new package installs, though :/ |
| 02:12:29 | bhima | I'll try re-installing some and seeing. |
| 02:12:33 | bhima | I rebooted just in case. |
| 02:12:39 | bhima | it's being really obnoxious. |
| 02:12:52 | boodle | bhima: well you can manually install ipkgs with just untarring ipkgs.. |
| 02:13:27 | boodle | bhima: try 'ipkg status ipkg' |
| 02:13:38 | boodle | bhima: what version is it? |
| 02:13:43 | bhima | Version: 0.9-jeh7 |
| 02:14:21 | boodle | bhima: hmm same.. what shell are you using? bash or ash? |
| 02:14:26 | bhima | bash. |
| 02:14:39 | boodle | ipkg status bash (verion info on it) |
| 02:14:45 | boodle | s/verion/version/ |
| 02:14:56 | bhima | Version: 2.03-6-fam2 |
| 02:15:26 | bhima | how do you untar a .ipk file? |
| 02:16:28 | Tangent | bhima : tar xvzf file.ipk |
| 02:16:50 | boodle | same version.. i give up :) simply 'tar zxf <ipkgfilename>'. you end up with a control.tar.gz file and a data.tar.gz file. then untar/gunzip each and look at contents and manually put in place (it'll seem obvious once you untar everything) |
| 02:17:05 | bhima | ok, thanks :) |
| 02:17:11 | boodle | bhima: np, good luck! |
| 03:53:50 | | GoRK was last seen on #tuxscreen 18 days, 1 hours, 55 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: hmm it used to be there [Tue Dec 18 01:57:58 2001] |
| 03:53:50 | scanline | ibot: seen GoRK? |
| 03:53:57 | scanline | bah... |
| 16:53:27 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzZzZzzzzzzzzz |
| 17:20:14 | Morn | is away: lunch |
| 20:06:50 | Morn | is back (gone 02:46:35) |
| 20:07:32 | file | you were gone? |
| 20:07:38 | file | hrms as he's having spaghetti for supper |
| 20:07:41 | Morn | is very gone |
| 23:17:35 | WarWizard | Are all JTAGs supposed to work the same? I got one and it uses a different IC and resistors instead of capacitors. But it has the parallel connection on one side and a 7 pin connector on the other |
| 23:20:36 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: no idea, but thought I'd say something so you didn't feel lonely :-) |
| 23:20:44 | WarWizard | Thanks |
| 23:21:10 | WarWizard | haha. I've had a tuxscreen sitting here non-working for a few weeks now. trying to get this thing working again |
| 23:21:36 | SpaceCoaster | cool, did you trash it when trying to install blob? |
| 23:21:50 | WarWizard | Yup |
| 23:22:00 | SpaceCoaster | I did the same thing! |
| 23:22:59 | WarWizard | I can't get the JTAG to work now. Finally got around to getting a parallel cable and wiring the stuff up and jflash can't read the device ID |
| 23:23:33 | WarWizard | I get the same error if I dont even have the thing hooked up |
| 23:23:50 | SpaceCoaster | jflash was unable to read my device id as well, I altered the utility to ignore the id and it worked fine. |
| 23:24:09 | Russ | WarWizard: jtag isn't 5V tolerent on the sa1100 |
| 23:24:14 | Russ | parallel is 5V |
| 23:24:29 | | hola, SpaceCoaster |
| 23:24:29 | SpaceCoaster | Russ: hi |
| 23:25:12 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: do you get random ids or all 1's or 0's? |
| 23:25:50 | WarWizard | error, failed to read device ID |
| 23:25:50 | WarWizard | ACT: 1111 1111111111111111 11111111111 1 |
| 23:25:50 | WarWizard | EXP: X001 0001000010000100 00000110101 1 |
| 23:26:49 | WarWizard | thats the same error thats listed on the site. So I'm gonna try soldering the 100ohm resistor |
| 23:27:24 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: hmm, I got 1's when my JTAG was wired incorrectly |
| 23:28:05 | Russ | WarWizard: do you have some 3.3V buffers that are 5V tolerant |
| 23:28:19 | WarWizard | I got a 300 in 1 radio shack kit :) |
| 23:28:27 | WarWizard | and a few bags of caps and resistors |
| 23:29:03 | Russ | so is your device 3.3V? |
| 23:29:37 | WarWizard | good question. I dont know. I'm trying to find documenation on it |
| 23:30:10 | SpaceCoaster | Russ: can he do damage with a 5V device? |
| 23:32:34 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: GPSFan produced a circuit diag for an alternative JTAG interface for the TuxScreen at http://tuxscreen.net/download/schematics/jtag2.pdf |
| 23:35:02 | WarWizard | That one uses the same IC as the one I have. |
| 23:36:40 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: I haven't used it myself, the one I built was as described at the LART site. |
| 23:36:58 | SpaceCoaster | http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/jtag-lart_schematic.pdf |
| 23:37:24 | WarWizard | The one that I was trying to make was off the LART site. I gave up cause I dont know really know anything about electronics |
| 23:39:16 | SpaceCoaster | Did you see the aleph1 link in the channel message? |
| 23:39:36 | WarWizard | Ya, but I cant find a link on their site to buy a jtag |
| 23:40:59 | GPSFan | WarWizard: BZflag is planning on ordering a bunch and re-selling them th those who need them. |
| 23:41:41 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: hi, how are you? |
| 23:42:18 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: hey! I'm ok. happy newyear, how did your tux "presents" come out? |
| 23:43:31 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: happy new year to you too, the presents were a success, the users requested some software changes so we are reimplmenting some stuff, mainly callerid. |
| 23:43:35 | GPSFan | I built a variation of the jtag2 schematic I posted. it worked great. ftp://ftp.desertweyr.com/pub/Image13.jpg |
| 23:44:13 | Russ | SpaceCoaster: putting 5V into a non-5V tolerant device is very bad for the device |
| 23:44:27 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: did you ever take any screen shots? |
| 23:44:46 | SpaceCoaster | Russ: thanks, I half remembered that you said that before. |
| 23:45:10 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: the IC ont he jtag boards serve to translate 3.3-5V signals. |
| 23:45:49 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: you have to use the correct family, or no-workey. |
| 23:46:08 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: not yet, but we will soon, we compile the app statically |
| 23:46:51 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: hmm, so my random selection of chip family must have been ok, phew! |
| 23:47:24 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: what did you use? |
| 23:48:50 | SpaceCoaster | errr. I think it was a HC541, it was a big old fashioned DIL and was available which was my criteria at the time. |
| 23:51:11 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: well, the family should be rated for 3.3V operation, HC probably isn't, but probably will work. the inputs (on the parallel port side) need to be 5V tolerant. HC may be, and the outputs going back to the parallel port need th be high enough for the ttl of the parllel port ot work. |
| 23:52:35 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: hmm, maybe this has something to do with why it is flakey when reading the ID, works for everything else tho' |
| 23:52:38 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: I used LVX which is designed for the task, but others (HC inyour case will no doubt work). If the inputs don't latch-up with the 5V levels, then you probably will be ok. |
| 23:53:50 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: could be... I had to add a cap on the TO output from the Tux for mine to work. the LART one has caps on all inputs & outputs. |
| 23:54:31 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: it is all a mystery to me... |
| 23:54:48 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 23:55:06 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: have you had nfs & pivot_root working? |
| 23:55:20 | SpaceCoaster | GPSFan: yes |
| 23:56:06 | GPSFan | I'm having a heck of a time. I've got nfs going, but when I try to pivot_root, I get device or resource busy. |
| 23:56:59 | SpaceCoaster | I think you have to be careful about processes running on the old mount point. The sequence of cd commands is critical. It cause me some grief too. |
| 23:57:52 | WarWizard | is away: Running to Radio Shack |
| 23:58:09 | WarWizard | I'm gonna try that jtag2.pdf version |
| 23:58:24 | WarWizard | much easier than the one on the LART site |
| 23:58:35 | GPSFan | SpaceCoaster: hmm, i'm having some busybox problems too, mount doen't behave quite like real mount does, umount doesn't like to unmount devices, |
| 23:58:51 | GPSFan | WarWizard: get yourself some 330pf caps too. |
| 23:58:57 | SpaceCoaster | WarWizard: you could check the RS website to see if shops stock it. |
