| 00:16:09 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I was using a thin client demo board that we had laying around, and apparently it did some funky stuff to the ISA board |
| 00:16:21 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, to the ISA bus. I plugged it into a standard motherboard, and all was well |
| 00:17:54 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 00:17:56 | Russ|werk | bummer |
| 00:54:55 | Morn | is away: watching a movie |
| 01:12:16 | crack | hea |
| 01:12:22 | crack | help me please |
| 01:26:58 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Hmmm... he was here just a minute ago. How very odd... |
| 01:27:09 | CosmicPenguin | ./nick cpenguin_away |
| 01:27:31 | cpenguin_away | Opps... too many Makefiles today... :) |
| 01:27:32 | cpenguin_away | bye |
| 01:45:38 | Sammy | hi e |
| 03:01:45 | jacques_gone | sure is slow |
| 03:05:12 | france_away | jacques_gone: that is because we are all gone. |
| 03:08:16 | france_away | jacquesZzZz: or sleeping. |
| 03:17:57 | Morn | is back (gone 02:23:02) |
| 06:01:48 | matrix | hey all |
| 08:50:44 | andersee | Russ: try again? |
| 08:54:25 | Russ | still no go, lemme do verbose |
| 08:55:21 | Russ | hmm...it only wants to use .ssh/id_dsa |
| 08:57:18 | Russ | sleep |
| 15:10:59 | CosmicPenguin | is back: [Gone 13h:43m:59s] |
| 15:11:06 | CosmicPenguin | good monring! |
| 15:11:19 | prpplague | morning |
| 15:20:15 | prpplague | woke with a headache this morning |
| 15:20:25 | prpplague | no beer involved |
| 15:25:58 | Morn | beer? |
| 15:26:02 | Morn | did I hear beer? |
| 15:26:08 | Morn | perks up :-) |
| 15:28:11 | CosmicPenguin | mmmmm... |
| 15:28:42 | thekernel | no beer involved... That could be the title if I ever wrote my life story :) |
| 15:31:34 | prpplague | Morn: you like beer? |
| 15:31:46 | Morn | some beers yes |
| 15:33:23 | prpplague | Morn: hmm, likes sci-fi, computer geekette, drinks beer, can i marry you? |
| 15:33:58 | Morn | giggle |
| 15:34:14 | thekernel | doubts the wisdom of that sort of union... They might breed... |
| 15:34:50 | Morn | falls off chair laughing. |
| 15:34:57 | thekernel | Only one of my parents is a geek... That did plenty. |
| 15:35:05 | prpplague | isn't it in the bible "the geek shall inherit the earth" ? |
| 15:35:16 | thekernel | I think that was a typo |
| 15:35:23 | prpplague | ohh bummer |
| 15:35:32 | thekernel | It may still apply though :) |
| 15:36:07 | thekernel | I'd rather just inherit a good RISC based system. Preferably with SMP |
| 15:37:09 | thekernel | mmm... SMP race condition... |
| 15:38:34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: didn't you notice? The geek has inherited the earth |
| 15:38:58 | thekernel | CosmicPenguin : or at lest the corner office :) |
| 15:39:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya getting close |
| 15:39:22 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: I would've given it to you, but you're leaving in a few months anyway... :) |
| 15:39:46 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: Plus, where am I going to stick this growing pile of hardware I've got all around me? |
| 15:40:07 | prpplague | morning andersee |
| 15:40:58 | thekernel | I'm not sure I would want the office. I could use some selves though... |
| 15:41:10 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: Take some from my old cube |
| 15:41:15 | thekernel | k |
| 15:41:32 | thekernel | Either way, this cube is an upgrade from the first cube you guys put me in. |
| 15:41:45 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: Dave is a windows hacker anyway, he is used to dealing with adversity.... |
| 15:42:08 | thekernel | It's so true... |
| 15:44:06 | thekernel | leaves to go to work... see you in 20... |
| 15:44:46 | signal11 | prpplague it's the greek shall inherit the earth |
| 15:45:24 | thekernel | mmm... greek food... |
| 15:46:06 | Morn | it's harder to find Greek food here in CT than it was in Manhattan :-( |
| 15:46:34 | signal11 | there's a lot in utah, for some reason |
| 15:48:16 | Morn | the town I live in here in CT is very small |
| 15:48:16 | CosmicPenguin | There's a lot of good greek food in utah..... |
| 15:48:28 | Morn | in Manhattan I could get anything I wanted |
| 15:48:33 | Morn | and I took advantage of that |
| 15:49:50 | Morn | I love sushi |
| 15:49:51 | CosmicPenguin | I was born and raised in Wyoming, so big cities don't appeal to me - but if I ever was to move to New York, it would be because of the food |
| 15:50:27 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: I was born and raised in PA Dutch Country, but I moved to Phila, then DC, then NYC |
| 15:50:50 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: A guy I know in queens says he has all you can eat sushi for 20 bucks.... here, 20 bucks will get you a spicy tuna roll and a salad... |
| 15:51:22 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: You got all the way up the the biggest city and decided you would start over again? :-) |
| 15:51:46 | Morn | I needed a change in lifestyle |
| 15:52:22 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: sushi sounds so good right now... :) |
| 15:54:31 | signal11 | definitely does |
| 15:54:43 | signal11 | there is some good sushi here. i really am enjoying bombay lately |
| 15:54:50 | signal11 | delicious nuclear hot vindaloo |
| 15:55:00 | prpplague | hmm vindaloo |
| 15:55:05 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone know off hand what a 01 means during lilo? I don't feel like pulling out the source..... |
| 15:55:13 | prpplague | nassau has this great indian restaurant |
| 15:55:21 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: I have to go up and try that.... Bombay remains the best Indian... |
| 15:55:39 | CosmicPenguin | Course, I would kill for a Malyasian resturant..... |
| 15:56:01 | signal11 | tough to say, the star is pretty good too |
| 15:56:16 | CosmicPenguin | For me, its all about the Nan..... |
| 15:56:42 | Morn | I'm going into NYC on Saturday to do some shopping, I think I'll enjoy the food while I'm there... |
| 15:57:15 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Sounds good.... |
| 16:00:42 | CosmicPenguin | hey kernel, when are you rolling into work? |
| 16:08:03 | mallum | I like turkish food |
| 16:08:40 | Morn | I'm not big on East Indian food |
| 16:31:16 | Russ | RX packets:1337087 errors:5745404 dropped:162615324 overruns:0 frame:32586202 |
| 16:31:18 | Russ | hmmm |
| 16:33:38 | mallum | Russ: You use the same ISP as me then ;) |
| 16:34:41 | Russ | no, its the net card |
| 16:35:11 | Russ | Hw. address read/write mismap 0 |
| 16:35:16 | Russ | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 16:35:23 | Russ | eth1: Tx timed out, excess collisions. TSR=0xff, ISR=0xff, t=103. |
| 16:35:29 | Russ | eth1: trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy. |
| 16:35:37 | Russ | eth1: mismatched read page pointers 4c vs ff. |
| 16:35:40 | mallum | what card is it ? |
| 16:36:20 | Russ | eth1: RealTek RTL-8029 |
| 16:37:12 | mallum | Oh yeah has anybody seen them Bush webtv boxes that are going cheap; |
| 16:37:14 | mallum | http://www.toysrus.co.uk/product_detail.jsp?lp_uid=TR145&bos_uid=2670&sid=-2048653188&kick=-1465422789&nextpage=search_display.jsp |
| 16:37:54 | mallum | It has a ARM 7500 ( IIRC ) |
| 16:39:03 | prpplague | wow 20 quid? |
| 16:39:33 | Russ | yes, 20 quid, and 8 for the fruitbat |
| 16:39:44 | file | peeks in |
| 16:40:35 | mallum | fruitbat ? |
| 16:40:44 | prpplague | fruitbat? |
| 16:40:53 | file | fruitbat? |
| 16:41:08 | CosmicPenguin | are all your pets named eric? |
| 16:41:21 | mallum | eric ? |
| 16:41:36 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Do you seriously not know what we're talking about? |
| 16:43:45 | prpplague | must be an idiot, due to the fact he can not read between the lines on this |
| 16:44:16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: nope, I havn't been round these parts recently however ? |
| 16:44:37 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Its a Monty Python skit.... |
| 16:45:49 | mallum | uh, only americans watch Monty Python anymore |
| 16:45:54 | prpplague | hasn't seen Monty Python in a very long time |
| 16:46:37 | prpplague | mallum: is the "raving lunatic party" still running for office over there in the uk? |
| 16:46:50 | mallum | prpplague: I think there leader died |
| 16:46:53 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Actually, I thought it was more of a "geek" thing |
| 16:47:51 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: You should check 'the league of gentleman' if you can in the US, its like a mondern day Monty Python, really really funny |
| 16:48:03 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: do they play it on the BBC? |
| 16:48:12 | mallum | yeah think so |
| 16:48:51 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe I can get it on BBC america.... but then again, maybe not... |
| 16:49:39 | prpplague | would like to see some good black adder and red dwarf |
| 16:50:37 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: looks like you can get it in the US -> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004Z4V5/qid=1008867090/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_3_1/103-0082636-6287810 |
| 16:51:02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: its so good. You have to watch it a couple of times to get it, but if you like Monty Python you'll like this |
| 16:51:41 | mallum | Everyone thats reviewed it has given it 5 |
| 16:51:53 | CosmicPenguin | Wow.... Monthy Python meets Twin Peaks....... whats not to love? |
| 16:57:56 | mallum | Russ: do you know anymore about that bush stb, apparently rmk has 90% of the work done to get it running Linux ? |
| 16:58:43 | andersee | prpplague: morning |
| 16:59:07 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, andersee.... you've got quite a lag there....... :) |
| 17:00:22 | file | hrms |
| 17:00:31 | Russ | know nothing |
| 17:00:58 | Russ | "My name is Steven Carr and I work at the Federal Aviation Administrations Advanced Technical Center. I plan to use the udhcp program..." |
| 17:00:59 | Russ | heh |
| 17:01:07 | andersee | was elsewhere.... |
| 17:01:28 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: You need one of those "not for critical applications warnings".... :) |
| 17:01:49 | andersee | Russ: I fixed that uclibc bug he found... |
| 17:02:15 | Russ | adds "developed software for the Federal Aviation Administrations Advanced Technical Center" to his resume |
| 17:02:30 | Russ | andersee: what bug? |
| 17:02:35 | andersee | Hmm. I should do that too... |
| 17:02:49 | Russ | andersee: btw, your fix to tar wasn't very complete |
| 17:03:03 | Russ | tar -C <dir> -xvf - |
| 17:03:11 | andersee | Subject: uClibc inet_aton () |
| 17:03:11 | andersee | From: Steven.CTR.Carr@tc.faa.gov (Steven CTR Carr) |
| 17:03:11 | andersee | To: Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org> |
| 17:03:11 | andersee | Erik, |
| 17:03:11 | andersee | inet_aton() is stricter in uClibc. No trailing blanks is permitted. |
| 17:03:12 | andersee | If the string is "192.168.1.100" it works beautifully. if the string is |
| 17:03:13 | Russ | extracts stdin to stdout |
| 17:03:14 | andersee | "192.168.1.100<sp>" it fails. The code in uClibc/libc/inet/addr.c has the end |
| 17:03:16 | andersee | of character address check as follows... |
| 17:03:19 | CosmicPenguin | The last thing you want to hear is the NASA administrator say: "Here is our new shuttle navigation system, based on Tuxscreen v0.5..." :-) |
| 17:04:09 | file | lol |
| 17:04:15 | Russ | I changed the - to /proc/self/fd/0 for a workaround though |
| 17:04:17 | andersee | Russ: udhcp calls inet_aton() with a trailing " ", which tickled that bug (now fixed) |
| 17:04:31 | mallum | I mailed a guy at NASA a while back about getting my CATS board to boot |
| 17:04:37 | Russ | udhcp is fixed in that reguard as well |
| 17:05:17 | mallum | I got it to boot in the meantime, but then got a mail from him saying he'd never got it too boot. That was pretty worring considering my technical abilities ;) |
| 17:05:22 | andersee | Russ: I'll look again at tar then |
| 17:05:39 | file | is glad he isn't in the US all of a sudden |
| 17:08:38 | CosmicPenguin | You know what we need? We need someone to develop an IDE device that will let you load DOMs and other IDE based stuff without having to open a case.... |
| 17:10:54 | file | doesn't volunteer |
| 17:23:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when you say load, you mean program/flash them, or do you mean physically install them? |
| 17:27:51 | Morn | is away: client needs help... |
| 17:31:13 | file | anybody ever use an I-Opener? |
| 17:33:39 | andersee | file: BZFlag has one |
| 17:35:40 | file | any good? |
| 17:36:46 | Russ|werk | eh |
| 17:36:54 | Russ|werk | depends on the revision |
| 17:36:55 | file | looks neat... |
| 17:37:14 | file | no touchscreen? |
| 17:37:47 | Russ|werk | nope |
| 17:37:57 | file | :| |
| 17:38:57 | andersee | Russ|werk: were you able to login? |
| 17:39:29 | file | how much can a person get an I-Opener for? |
| 17:41:15 | Russ|werk | did you add id_dsa.pub? |
| 17:41:27 | Russ|werk | file: try ebay |
| 17:41:30 | andersee | file: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1310162748 |
| 17:42:57 | andersee | Russ|werk: just did. |
| 17:46:27 | Russ|werk | andersee: hmm...my key here works |
| 17:47:46 | andersee | cool |
| 17:49:47 | Russ|werk | andersee: but at home it doesn't work... |
| 17:50:10 | andersee | ? |
| 17:50:13 | andersee | wierd |
| 17:50:20 | andersee | Different ssh versions? |
| 17:50:45 | Russ|werk | I'm *very* lagged |
| 17:51:11 | kernelwork | upgraded ssh on ALL of his machines and key based auth never worked again... |
| 17:51:24 | Russ|werk | I have access now, so I should be able to figure it out |
| 17:51:35 | Russ|werk | I hat stupid polices |
| 17:51:35 | Russ|werk | we are going to get cox@work, but their process is: |
| 17:52:02 | Russ|werk | a) you ask for cox@work |
| 17:52:19 | Russ|werk | (kernelwork: everything moved to one file instead of seperate files for v1/v2) |
| 17:56:48 | Russ|werk | b) a few days later someone comes by and takes a picture of the premisis |
| 17:56:56 | Russ|werk | c) 45 day waiting period |
| 17:57:11 | Russ|werk | d) supposive install with one year payments upfront |
| 17:57:51 | Russ|werk | oi, it was andersee that was lagged |
| 18:01:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I mean to flash them.... |
| 18:02:45 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: what are you babbling about |
| 18:06:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: already done, we do four a time |
| 18:14:10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: URLS? |
| 18:15:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sorry, we built it in-house |
| 18:16:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: didn't think anyone would be interested |
| 18:19:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll see about doing some docs |
| 18:24:17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Oh, I thought it was commercial.... don't knock youself out, I just thought it would be useful to have some way to load a HD or a DOM without cracking open a case |
| 18:24:21 | CosmicPenguin | Wishful thinking... :) |
| 18:27:39 | Russ|werk | waz a DOM? |
| 18:27:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we created a pcb with 4 ide slots connect via a ribbon cable through an empty pci/isa slot cover |
| 18:28:26 | prpplague | Disk-On-Module, flash memory that works as an ide device |
| 18:31:56 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: They are actually pretty cool.... they fit directly into the IDE slot.... |
| 18:32:34 | AlHazWork | expensive little buggers tho |
| 18:33:04 | prpplague | AlHazWork: yes the cost is a little of a concern |
| 18:33:25 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: The profile is a bit high too (at least the one I saw...) not good for webpads.... |
| 18:34:03 | AlHazWork | it's really easy to use compactflash as an ide device. the connector costs a little more, and they have smaller write buffers, but cf is commodity-cheap |
| 18:38:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you can get right angle units |
| 18:42:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Ahh.... |
| 18:43:52 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: I think I have about 100 of those |
| 18:43:57 | Russ|werk | m systems? |
| 18:44:08 | Russ|werk | little isa cards with DOC sockets? |
| 18:44:20 | prpplague | if you guys here a large pop, don't its just my head exploding due to my headache |
| 18:44:31 | prpplague | s/don't/don't worry |
| 18:49:02 | AlHazWork | I don't understand the appeal of DOC at all. |
| 18:49:16 | AlHazWork | aside from being able to easily add it to any board design that already includes an eprom socket |
| 18:49:31 | Russ|werk | AlHaz: its pretty usefull |
| 18:49:57 | Russ|werk | AlHaz: its a little more than a floppy drive, but a million times more reliable and much much faster |
| 18:50:05 | Russ|werk | also comes in larger sizes |
| 18:50:20 | Russ|werk | makes good use of old pc's |
| 18:50:32 | CosmicPenguin | Is this converstation familiar? |
| 18:50:45 | Russ|werk | I dunno, is it? |
| 18:51:41 | AlHazWork | So it's flash that's address through a sliding window with patent-encumbered bios services |
| 18:51:51 | AlHazWork | that's really expensive |
| 18:52:28 | AlHazWork | CosmicPenguin: Yeah, we've had this conversation before |
| 18:52:33 | Russ|werk | I know, I really prefer standard flash |
| 18:52:40 | AlHazWork | I'm in a bad mood, but i should just keep it to myself |
| 18:52:52 | Russ|werk | AlHaz: but for old x86 hardware with isa slots, its really the best solution |
| 18:53:03 | AlHazWork | Russ: and where people insist on bios services to boot / use a non-spinning medium, why not just dom or cf? |
| 18:53:05 | Russ|werk | (or for pc104 hardware) |
| 18:53:17 | Russ|werk | dom? |
| 18:53:21 | AlHazWork | disk on module |
| 18:53:26 | AlHazWork | ide flash |
| 18:55:15 | AlHazWork | so DOC's appeal is that it's small and can be plugged into old boards. |
| 18:55:24 | AlHazWork | *shrug* |
| 19:05:58 | Russ|werk | thats more expensive though |
| 19:06:25 | Russ|werk | I just slap a 2M doc onto an ISA board and drop it in |
| 19:08:53 | ctr | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:14:10 | BZFlag | andersee |
| 19:14:35 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 24 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: Different ssh versions? [Thu Dec 20 17:50:20 2001] |
| 19:14:35 | BZFlag | ibot seen andersee |
| 19:15:16 | Russ|werk | andersee's connection went dead |
| 19:15:52 | Russ|werk | PING busybox.net (166.70.14.212): 56 data bytes |
| 19:15:52 | Russ|werk | --- busybox.net ping statistics --- |
| 19:15:52 | Russ|werk | 1 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss |
| 19:15:55 | BZFlag | yeah, and he does not answer his phone either |
| 19:16:07 | Russ|werk | maybe he lot power |
| 19:16:12 | BZFlag | perhaps. |
| 19:17:04 | BZFlag | hmm.. I do get a digital "record a message" message now on his phone. |
| 19:18:03 | Russ|werk | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7050-2001Dec20.html |
| 19:18:08 | Russ|werk | wow, what a surprise |
| 19:18:36 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: We've had power outages around the valley the last few days, it wouldn't surprise me.... |
| 19:18:41 | Russ|werk | jesus |
| 19:18:57 | Russ|werk | they gave MS *FIVE WEEKS* to fix it before disclosure |
| 19:19:15 | Russ|werk | can you imagine how many systems were open to black hats for that long |
| 19:21:53 | CosmicPenguin | "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware of for Windows desktop systems, |
| 19:21:54 | CosmicPenguin | "This is the first network-based, remote compromise that I'm aware of for Windows desktop systems, |
| 19:22:01 | CosmicPenguin | (sorry) |
| 19:22:06 | Russ|werk | sure.... |
| 19:22:14 | Russ|werk | not a very aware person |
| 19:22:18 | CosmicPenguin | Uhhh... arn't they all network based and remote? Its not like guys are sitting down and hacking at the console..... |
| 19:32:11 | BZFlag | yup, andersee's power went out, he was not home, the UPS was crapped, etc. back in a minute or so. |
| 19:34:28 | Russ|werk | andersee is back online |
| 19:35:30 | Russ|werk | russ@winder:~$ uptime |
| 19:35:31 | Russ|werk | 12:36:47 up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 1.07, 0.56, 0.21 |
| 19:35:33 | Russ|werk | bummer |
| 19:37:26 | BZFlag | heh, yeah. dead ups's do that. |
| 19:38:22 | Russ|werk | I wonder if the usp feedback cable will tell me if the battery is having problems |
| 19:38:39 | BZFlag | not unless you have it doing tests |
| 19:39:20 | BZFlag | ie: apc's software can do a weekly test, it switches to battery power and the hardware monitors power level to see the decay curve. |
| 19:39:36 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 19:39:58 | BZFlag | so ups's can only detect battery power on/off and not the level though. |
| 19:40:02 | BZFlag | er some. |
| 19:40:02 | Russ|werk | seems like the unit could do that for you |
| 19:40:31 | BZFlag | there is rick involved, if the battery it dead, the server will go down on the test. |
| 19:40:40 | BZFlag | er risk, /me can't type |
| 19:41:07 | Russ|werk | neither |
| 19:41:25 | BZFlag | very large model UPS's can test each battery internally and report status. we are talking $$ though. |
| 19:41:28 | Russ|werk | if the UPS did it, it could still keep power to the server |
| 19:41:36 | Russ|werk | its just if power was lost while doing the test |
| 19:41:46 | BZFlag | right. |
| 19:41:59 | Russ|werk | wb andersee |
| 19:41:59 | BZFlag | andersee: wb! we were just talking bout ya |
| 19:42:04 | andersee | power is back on... |
| 19:42:08 | Russ|werk | did winder just go down again? |
| 19:42:32 | andersee | power went out for like 2 hours |
| 19:42:56 | andersee | And my UPS' battry is dead.... |
| 19:44:01 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Did your power go out in that big blackout last night too? |
| 19:45:15 | andersee | nope |
| 19:45:23 | andersee | Didn't know of any blackout last night |
| 19:46:27 | CosmicPenguin | It was up northish.... |
| 19:47:17 | Morn | is there a way I can see if any machines are alive on a class c subnet? I think the whole block is down at my provider |
| 19:47:30 | Russ|werk | nmap |
| 19:47:52 | Russ|werk | do a ping sweep |
| 19:47:56 | andersee | nmap -p <subnet> |
| 19:48:05 | spse | for i in `seq 255` ; do ping -c2 x.y.z.$i done |
| 19:49:44 | Russ|werk | nmap is faster |
| 19:51:15 | | 3.75 |
| 19:51:15 | Russ|werk | ibot: (12 * 3 + 9) / 12 |
| 19:51:17 | Russ|werk | coo |
| 19:52:57 | | Morn: i'm not following you... |
| 19:52:57 | Morn | ibot: fib(20) |
| 19:52:57 | Morn | giggles. |
| 19:53:41 | Morn | I didn't think so |
| 19:55:15 | Morn | well that confirms my suspcion, EVERYTHING is down there |
| 19:55:30 | Morn | I just got a call, it's an interal network trouble |
| 19:55:31 | Russ|werk | oh, btw andersee, I have a -b patch for start-stop-daemon |
| 19:57:09 | andersee | Russ|werk: cool. That would be nice. |
| 19:57:24 | Russ|werk | especially for the watchdog apple |
| 19:57:25 | Russ|werk | t |
| 19:57:41 | andersee | Russ|werk: just calls daemon() before the exec? |
| 19:58:10 | Russ|werk | oh, there is a daemon() function? |
| 19:58:53 | Russ|werk | * daemon implementation for uClibc |
| 19:59:21 | andersee | yup. And in busybox too (for libc5 which lacks it) |
| 19:59:32 | Russ|werk | never knew about daemon() |
| 20:00:30 | andersee | Its a nice shortcut for the fork+exec |
| 20:01:23 | andersee | Its in busybox/libbb/libc5.c and in uClibc/libc/unistd/daemon.c |
| 20:01:51 | Russ|werk | I'll fix the docs too I suppose |
| 20:02:36 | Russ|werk | er, there is no dock |
| 20:02:38 | Russ|werk | er, doc |
| 20:03:07 | AlHazWork | jerkoffs in nagano have passed me a release candidate for a compactpci board with a kernel that won't build if you enable pci support . . . |
| 20:10:33 | EGg0 | is away: errands |
| 21:08:45 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:58:12) |
| 21:16:43 | file | pokes Russ|werk, "you there?" |
| 21:18:46 | file | poke poke |
| 21:28:39 | Russ|werk | hmm? |
| 21:30:47 | file | I-Opener, cost, where. |
| 21:30:50 | file | :) |
| 21:33:03 | Russ|werk | ebay |
| 21:33:28 | file | $130. |
| 21:33:47 | Russ|werk | ya, so? |
| 21:35:15 | file | nothing nothing |
| 21:35:32 | file | ::wonders if a Tuxscreen would be better:: |
| 21:36:38 | CosmicPenguin | Much better... linux works on the Tuxscreen |
| 21:37:19 | file | CosmicPenguin: uh, the I-Opener is just like a regular computer. |
| 21:39:55 | prpplague | the I-opener is actually a reworked laptop core |
| 21:40:37 | file | I like the physical looks... |
| 21:40:50 | prpplague | file: you looked at the IA-1 |
| 21:40:51 | prpplague | ?? |
| 21:40:59 | file | IA-1? |
| 21:41:30 | AlHazWork | where'd you get the idea that the io is a laptop core? it uses a desktop via chipset |
| 21:41:35 | AlHazWork | a crummy one |
| 21:42:18 | file | still looks physically neat |
| 21:43:32 | file | or an Audrey... |
| 21:43:52 | file | nah |
| 21:44:14 | prpplague | AlHazWork: i spoke to a tawainesse engineer that said they had done the rework for it |
| 21:44:19 | AlHazWork | prpplague: OK |
| 21:44:27 | AlHazWork | I'd hate to see the laptop . . . |
| 21:44:53 | prpplague | ya me too |
| 21:44:54 | AlHazWork | I haven't been able to do anything useful with my IO yet. |
| 21:45:11 | file | AlHazWork: what are you gonna try to do? |
| 21:45:22 | AlHazWork | file: I have no grandiose plans |
| 21:45:36 | prpplague | file: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-Details.asp?sku=C860-IA1 |
| 21:46:35 | AlHazWork | Easy to setup and use! |
| 21:46:35 | AlHazWork | Turns on and off like a TV and automatically connects to the Internet! |
| 21:46:35 | AlHazWork | Flashing light alerts you of incoming e-mail! |
| 21:46:41 | file | can you put Linux on 'dat? |
| 21:46:44 | AlHazWork | *yawn* |
| 21:47:06 | prpplague | file: yep already done |
| 21:47:24 | file | neat |
| 21:47:26 | file | URL? |
| 21:48:25 | prpplague | http://www.linux-hackers.net |
| 21:49:27 | AlHazWork | I could really use a vaguely normal geode or similar set top box with Enough Ram, tv-out that works the first time, a simple way to add ethernet, decent stereo audio, and perhaps an ide port |
| 21:49:28 | file | uh, Web Page Under Construction |
| 21:50:25 | AlHazWork | I might just track down an old socket 7 nlx box or something |
| 21:50:30 | prpplague | hmm |
| 21:51:13 | AlHazWork | i think you might have ment www.linux-hacker.net |
| 21:51:18 | file | needs to send away the money for something |
| 21:51:51 | prpplague | file: oops, sorry it http://www.linux-hacker.net |
| 21:52:03 | Morn | is away: making dinner |
| 21:52:04 | file | goes to that URL... |
| 21:52:20 | file | I just see an I-Opener, Mailstation and something else |
| 21:52:50 | prpplague | file: check out the forums under msn companion |
| 21:52:55 | file | k |
| 21:52:57 | prpplague | file: pattieja has one also |
| 21:53:24 | file | neat |
| 21:55:34 | file | I think I'd like a TuxScreen without the phone stuff :) |
| 21:55:36 | pattieja | prpplague: I'm going to attempt to put QTopia on it (if possible) |
| 21:56:33 | pattieja | I've already gotten a USB "light" mouse to work on it to replace the piece of junk built into the keyboard |
| 21:56:33 | file | TuxPC. |
| 21:57:51 | AlHazWork | what a z80 box is doing on a linux hacking site is beyond me . . . |
| 21:58:51 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:59:08 | prpplague | AlHazWork: elfs for z80? |
| 21:59:14 | prpplague | AlHazWork: elks for z80? |
| 22:00:17 | AlHazWork | prpplague: it only has a few megs of ram, might work |
| 22:00:25 | AlHazWork | might be better off with something more like uzi |
| 22:00:57 | prpplague | AlHazWork: i was just joking around, but elks on z80 would be cool |
| 22:01:23 | AlHazWork | it's a custom asic z80 that cidco is calling a z81 |
| 22:01:26 | AlHazWork | it runs at 29mhz tho |
| 22:02:01 | file | lordy |
| 22:02:03 | AlHazWork | it's prolly mask rom programmed |
| 22:02:06 | file | my PDA runs better than that. |
| 22:02:09 | prpplague | hmm, elks on my Timex/Sinclair 1000, that would be a good hack |
| 22:02:28 | AlHazWork | cidco is a major showoff in the realm of the really really thin client |
| 22:02:47 | AlHazWork | shame they can't move product to save their lives |
| 22:03:11 | prpplague | AlHazWork: ya they have some nice designs, but very little market sense |
| 22:03:22 | AlHazWork | the InfoGear phone is the big luxurious brother of a cidco product |
| 22:03:30 | AlHazWork | it's got about 2x the ram & flash of the cidco version |
| 22:03:56 | AlHazWork | I'm impressed with what they could pull off with such limited hardware |
| 22:09:06 | file | hrms? |
| 22:13:00 | file | SO |
| 22:13:09 | file | who uses X Windows on their TuxScreen? |
| 22:20:44 | file | hello? |
| 22:20:54 | signal11 | me |
| 22:24:53 | joshnet_ | who said they used X Windows on their TuxScreen??? |
| 22:26:57 | signal11 | me |
| 22:28:22 | file | work well? |
| 22:48:51 | file | ... |
| 22:57:47 | signal11 | it's OK |
| 22:58:05 | signal11 | i am suffering from lockups; I believe it's due to a memory shortage |
| 22:58:08 | signal11 | but i'm not sure |
| 22:58:26 | signal11 | although you'd think 16 megs was enough for 640x480x256 |
| 22:58:39 | signal11 | those old x servers had 8M and ran great |
| 23:01:23 | file | neat |
| 23:01:51 | signal11 | i just use it as an xdmcp client |
| 23:02:40 | file | nods |