| 00:09:52 | prpplague | howdy CosmicPenguin |
| 00:10:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whatcha working on today? |
| 00:10:18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: anything interesting? |
| 00:10:52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Not a thing.... I have officially hit a brick wall.... |
| 00:11:17 | CosmicPenguin | Me: I'm running out of options, boss... |
| 00:11:21 | CosmicPenguin | Boss: We need to fix it |
| 00:11:33 | CosmicPenguin | Me: Any suggestions on where I can look? |
| 00:11:36 | CosmicPenguin | Boss: We need to fix it |
| 00:12:02 | CosmicPenguin | Me: Can I get some help? |
| 00:12:07 | CosmicPenguin | Boss: No, just go fix it |
| 00:17:06 | MicroChip32 | CosmicPenguin: lol, wanna break and fix my code instead? <eg> |
| 00:17:20 | CosmicPenguin | MicroChip32: What did you break? |
| 00:17:22 | MicroChip32 | ummm break from your code, and fix my code, not break my code ;) |
| 00:17:35 | MicroChip32 | everything according to the kernel *lol* |
| 00:18:09 | MicroChip32 | kernel vomits every time claiming im trying to dereference a null pointer, but it wont tell me where |
| 00:18:38 | MicroChip32 | ive got the friggin code loaded with debugs and it hasnt helped |
| 00:19:18 | MicroChip32 | its the stoopid interrupt urbs =( |
| 00:19:51 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh.... so its probably an null pointer in the interrupt code (and thus no stack) |
| 00:20:01 | CosmicPenguin | At least you get a message..... I just get a dead lock |
| 00:20:08 | prpplague | MicroChip32: don;t flame me, but did you check to make sure floating point emulation turned on in the kernel |
| 00:20:50 | MicroChip32 | prpplague: (looks for flame thrower <G>) a) how would that affect pointers and b) why would i need emulation with modern processors |
| 00:21:01 | MicroChip32 | c) no idea if it is, i'll check |
| 00:22:31 | MicroChip32 | is that the 'math emulation' option under processor options ? |
| 00:24:55 | prpplague | MicroChip32: the arm core does not have a true fpu, so the kernel needs an emulation package to support floating point operations |
| 00:25:46 | MicroChip32 | prpplague: ahhh, not on arm, we're talking about a pc-linux driver he's helped me with a bit |
| 00:26:06 | MicroChip32 | prpplague: but still good to know cuz im working up to poking at the tux ;) |
| 00:27:33 | Russ | MicroChip32: everytime you deal with a pointer (pass it, access it, receive it) do a if (!ptr) BUG(); |
| 00:28:44 | MicroChip32 | Russ: whats BUG(). and yea i already have the friggin thing loaded with debugs. but its usb interrupts thats im dealing with, hard to debug interrupts |
| 00:29:38 | jacques | hi all :-) |
| 00:32:16 | prpplague | MicroChip32: ohh thought you were talking arm |
| 00:32:42 | MicroChip32 | prpplague: nope, but no biggie, one of these days i will be ;) |
| 00:39:38 | Russ | MicroChip32: stops the kernel and tells you a bunch of stuff |
| 00:41:15 | MicroChip32 | Russ: restartable? or locks machine ? |
| 00:41:17 | MacAtack | MicroChip32: you might have hit a 'bug' in the kernel itself.. Mike (or David?) was saying somthing about wakkyness using Interupt URBs in linux |
| 00:41:45 | MicroChip32 | i think it was david that you sent that comment from |
| 00:42:16 | MacAtack | ahh ok |
| 00:42:18 | MicroChip32 | but believe it or not i had already considered those possibilities |
| 00:42:23 | MacAtack | ko |
| 00:42:32 | Russ | MicroChip32: locks machine |
| 00:42:53 | MicroChip32 | Russ: ok, cuz i get 'oops' as it is, does bug give more info ? |
| 00:43:01 | Russ | prolly |
| 00:43:16 | MicroChip32 | hmmmm might have to try it, cant do worse than what happenes now *lol* |
| 00:44:06 | Russ | see include/asm/page.h |
| 00:44:23 | Russ | CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE |
| 00:44:33 | Russ | #define BUG() do { \ |
| 00:44:33 | Russ | do_BUG(__FILE__, __LINE__); \ |
| 00:44:33 | Russ | __asm__ __volatile__("ud2"); \ |
| 00:44:33 | Russ | } while (0) |
| 00:45:31 | Russ | linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c |
| 00:45:47 | Russ | bust_spinlocks(1); |
| 00:45:47 | Russ | printk("kernel BUG at %s:%d!\n", file, line); |
| 00:46:38 | Russ | er, I don't think that stops the kernel |
| 00:47:11 | MicroChip32 | hmmmm bust_spinlocks() ?? lemme guess, that unlocks all currently locked spins? |
| 00:47:21 | Russ | __asm__ __volatile__("ud2"); <- unless this stops the kernel |
| 00:47:32 | Russ | I think it probably does |
| 00:48:07 | MicroChip32 | hmmmm |
| 00:48:30 | Russ | so I think you get "kernel BUG at micro's_crap_driver:1442!" |
| 00:48:33 | Russ | and then an oops |
| 00:48:50 | Russ | instead of an oops when the dereference occurs |
| 00:48:51 | MicroChip32 | lol, nice driver name, pretty accurate too at this point *lol* |
| 00:50:04 | jacques | maybe the driver is crashing due to low self esteem |
| 00:50:14 | MicroChip32 | jacques: rotfl |
| 00:50:33 | MicroChip32 | perhaps it doesnt like "cvoipb" (the actual name) |
| 00:52:59 | Russ | and then put sanity checks in all over the place |
| 00:54:07 | MicroChip32 | yea i have the sanitys all over, almost as much printk(KERN_DEBUG .. as i do code. plus a serial terminal so i dont have to worry about crashing ssylog |
| 00:55:01 | MacAtack | MicroChip32: u got that workin? just had to add support in kernel? |
| 00:55:31 | MicroChip32 | MacAtack: yep added support to kernel and a quick mod to lilo.conf |
| 00:59:50 | Russ | MicroChip32: you know you have serial sysrq, right? |
| 01:00:16 | MicroChip32 | russ: expln |
| 01:01:08 | Russ | you send a break, and then they key |
| 01:01:14 | Russ | so, ALT-F, b |
| 01:01:15 | Russ | etc |
| 01:01:56 | MicroChip32 | ummmm ok still not understanding what use it is? |
| 01:01:58 | Russ | ALT-F s, ALT-F u, ALT-F b would be helpfull |
| 02:31:32 | Morn | anyone around? |
| 02:32:26 | MicroChip32 | nope |
| 02:32:27 | MicroChip32 | busy coding |
| 02:33:58 | Morn | 'k |
| 02:34:11 | Morn | my roommate just finished the soldering for the 5v hack |
| 02:34:18 | Morn | I'm gonna put it back together and try it |
| 02:34:46 | Morn | the only coding I did today was a bunch of PHP for a client :-( |
| 02:34:55 | Morn | not really coding though is it? |
| 02:35:01 | MicroChip32 | should i watch for a fireball? im working on a usb patch for kernel 2.2 |
| 03:00:45 | Morn | Hi Tim |
| 03:01:27 | prpplague | BZFlag: started diaper duty yet? |
| 03:03:50 | MicroChip32 | mornin tim. diaper duty ... ut oh, ya'll spent the last nine months preparing a christmas present ? |
| 03:06:33 | Morn | is it me or is /lib/modules missing for the ramdisk? |
| 03:06:42 | Morn | the one I downloaded from the website |
| 03:14:32 | Morn | the build root script tried to access cvs as timriker |
| 03:14:35 | Morn | that isn't good |
| 03:23:35 | BZFlag | prpplague: nope. mom and cameron still at the hospital. |
| 03:24:19 | BZFlag | well, actually I did change one there, and he let it loose all over the place as soon as I got the old diaper out of the way. ;-/ |
| 03:25:08 | BZFlag | Morn: oops. guess I better replace that in the tarball. |
| 03:25:28 | Morn | Tim: I just got the files by hand... |
| 03:25:43 | Morn | I have more trouble with the cvs at sourceforge |
| 03:25:50 | BZFlag | Morn: the kernel in buildroot at present is built with everything static. no modules at all. |
| 03:26:12 | Morn | Tim: I'm trying to get my pcmcia ethernet card to work |
| 03:26:13 | BZFlag | that will change when I have the blob read-from-jffs2 integrated. then most everything will be modules. |
| 03:26:24 | Morn | do I need to do soemthing to do that? |
| 03:26:52 | BZFlag | If you are moving to modules, then you will have to get them copied as well as create a modules.dep etc. |
| 03:27:41 | BZFlag | vi `find . -name Root` and replace the path should work. |
| 03:27:50 | BZFlag | I'll do that and re-upload. |
| 03:33:38 | Morn | I did the 5v hack |
| 03:33:59 | Morn | but when I go into /proc/bus/pccard/00/status it says Vcc: 33 |
| 03:34:07 | Morn | does that mean it is still 3.3 v? |
| 03:38:29 | BZFlag | Morn: nope, it lies. |
| 03:38:55 | Morn | ok |
| 03:39:00 | BZFlag | the software is not aware if the hack. |
| 03:39:06 | BZFlag | er of the hack. |
| 03:39:09 | Morn | ok |
| 03:39:30 | Morn | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 03:40:00 | BZFlag | still true. "cardctl insert" will not work as it can't do a reset. |
| 03:40:23 | Morn | ok, how do I make it see the card? |
| 03:40:32 | BZFlag | remove it and insert it? |
| 03:41:00 | Morn | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): CS asked for 0V, still applying 3.3V.. shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 03:41:24 | BZFlag | asked for 0v? very odd. |
| 03:41:44 | Morn | that showed when I removed the card |
| 03:42:42 | BZFlag | ahh. try "cardctl eject" and then remove the card. |
| 03:44:48 | Morn | tried that |
| 03:44:56 | Morn | and tried 2 different pcmcia ethernet cards |
| 03:45:55 | Morn | I keep getting can't preform reset messages |
| 03:47:08 | BZFlag | you can ignore that message on an eject. it's just the software insert that is broken. an actual hardware insert should be fine. |
| 03:48:04 | BZFlag | fixed and reuploaded the buildroot-tux.tar.gz in v0.5 (I just replaced the existing files...) |
| 03:48:19 | Morn | ok |
| 03:48:25 | Morn | I do have a link light though |
| 03:48:30 | Morn | maybe it is working |
| 03:49:04 | Morn | ok, cardctl shows info |
| 03:49:06 | Morn | this is good |
| 03:50:58 | Morn | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 03:51:02 | Morn | no such device |
| 03:51:03 | Morn | :-( |
| 03:58:12 | jacques | ive seen that |
| 03:58:22 | jacques | cs asked for 0v but is still suplying 3.3v |
| 03:59:16 | volkam | :) |
| 04:04:36 | Morn | how do I tell the system to use pcnet_cs for the card? |
| 04:06:04 | volkam | config file |
| 04:06:07 | volkam | /etc/pcmcia/config |
| 04:06:19 | Morn | yeah, but what do I put in there? |
| 04:06:48 | Morn | hold on, I may have it |
| 04:09:31 | | volkam: i'm not following you... |
| 04:09:31 | volkam | ibot volkam |
| 04:09:38 | volkam | heh |
| 04:10:00 | Morn | maybe not |
| 04:11:40 | Morn | help? |
| 04:11:57 | Morn | product info: "Linksys", "EtherFast 10/100 Integrated PC Card (PCM100)", "Ver 1.0", " " manfid: 0x0149, 0xc1ab function: 6 (network) |
| 04:12:07 | Morn | that is the output of cardctl |
| 04:12:18 | Morn | what should /etc/pcmcia/config have in it? |
| 04:14:07 | volkam | a lot of stuff |
| 04:14:10 | volkam | like a lot heh |
| 04:14:14 | volkam | make a new line |
| 04:14:20 | volkam | like |
| 04:14:26 | volkam | name "morn's card" |
| 04:14:41 | volkam | manfid 0x0149, 0xc1ab |
| 04:14:50 | volkam | module "pcnet_cs" |
| 04:14:54 | volkam | ok. |
| 04:14:56 | volkam | add that |
| 04:15:26 | Morn | card "Linksys EtherFast Fast Ethernet" |
| 04:15:26 | Morn | manfid 0x0149, 0xc1ab |
| 04:15:26 | Morn | bind "pcnet_cs" |
| 04:15:29 | Morn | that's what I added |
| 04:15:32 | Morn | and it didn't work :-( |
| 04:20:23 | volkam | yes it should |
| 04:53:55 | Morn | I got it working! |
| 04:54:02 | Morn | I'm pinging the router! |
| 05:02:50 | jacques | Morn: does that card require 5V? |
| 05:03:22 | Morn | yeah |
| 05:03:27 | Morn | I did the hack to get it working |
| 05:03:34 | volkam | it works nwo? |
| 05:03:37 | Morn | yes! |
| 05:03:39 | volkam | yay |
| 05:03:58 | Morn | I'm trying to figure out how to do a nfs mount and get fimilar running |
| 05:04:17 | jacques | Morn: which hack did you do? switch or hardwire? |
| 05:04:28 | Morn | hardwire |
| 05:04:36 | Morn | I hardwired one of the ports |
| 05:04:39 | jacques | nod |
| 05:04:45 | Morn | I figured I'd leave the other alone |
| 05:04:51 | jacques | might as well for now |
| 05:05:58 | GPSFan | Morn: what did you do get it going, I'm trying to get my ehternet up, and having similar problems to what you described earlier. |
| 05:06:35 | Morn | GPSFan: I played with the entries in /etc/pcmcia/config and then ran the cardmgr and it found it |
| 05:07:09 | GPSFan | Morn: what param's for cardmgr? |
| 05:08:00 | Morn | I just ran cardmgr with no params |
| 05:09:08 | GPSFan | Morn: when I do that I get a "Bad VCC" message. ;>( |
| 05:09:25 | GPSFan | Morn: I can read the CIS |
| 05:09:35 | Morn | GPSFan: are you trying to use a 5v card in a 3.3v system? |
| 05:09:45 | Morn | does cardctl ident show anything? |
| 05:10:42 | volkam | the sleeve is only 5v |
| 05:10:46 | volkam | he is using a 3.3v card |
| 05:10:54 | GPSFan | Morn: yep, it tells me prod info, manfid, & function. |
| 05:11:17 | Morn | is not an expert on this... She just got it running... |
| 05:11:28 | GPSFan | volkam: I have a 5V card, and did the 5V mod |
| 05:11:34 | volkam | ok |
| 05:11:53 | Morn | GPSFan: it's a good sign if cardctl ident shows info |
| 05:12:11 | GPSFan | Morn: thanks anyway, thought you might have had a silver bullet or something. ;>) |
| 05:12:16 | jacques | Morn: it wouldnt for yo uat 3.3V right? |
| 05:12:23 | Morn | right |
| 05:13:28 | jacques | maybe there is hope for my wireless cards then |
| 05:13:31 | jacques | at 3.3V |
| 05:13:36 | jacques | they id themselves fine |
| 05:13:56 | GPSFan | jacques: I think there might be something in the smc91c92 driver that vomits if it asks for a config to 5V and gets "only 3.3V" back from shannon. |
| 05:14:25 | jacques | GPSFan: yeah I have heard of ppl hacking drives to not care because the hardware (sometimes) doesnt |
| 05:14:56 | jacques | GPSFan: there were similar problems with the ipaq single sleeve |
| 05:15:17 | GPSFan | jacques: that's what I'll probably do, or hack the shannon PCMCIA stuff to say that slot 1 is 5V. |
| 05:15:18 | Morn | how do I get the files out of a .jffs2 image? |
| 05:15:29 | jacques | GPSFan: heh |
| 05:15:50 | jacques | i wonder if my pcmcia ide adaptor would work at 3.3V |
| 05:16:07 | GPSFan | jacques: btw, I built a jtag dongle and got my #1 tux running again ;>) |
| 05:16:17 | jacques | GPSFan: rock on |
| 05:18:43 | GPSFan | jacques: now I've got an intermittent somewhere, because it now reboots every now and then, but that Tux has been through a lot. Schamatic reverse engineer, screwed up by Inferno, bad display cable... the list goes on... |
| 05:18:47 | Morn | shoot, the mtdram module crashed again |
| 05:18:52 | Morn | I've had more trouble with that module |
| 05:20:12 | jacques | GPSFan: maybe a short or bad power |
| 05:21:52 | Morn | can someone do me a huge favor, please |
| 05:22:07 | Morn | take the familar jffs2 image and extract the files for me |
| 05:22:53 | jacques | Morn: which one - usually there are tarballs about as well... |
| 05:23:04 | Morn | let me look |
| 05:23:36 | Morn | got it |
| 05:23:39 | jacques | Morn: you could ask a7r on #handhels.org |
| 05:23:47 | jacques | Morn: he was just talking a little while ago |
| 05:23:52 | | a7r was last seen on #handhelds.org 31 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: nelson: Let's talk about it some more.. I'm snagging dinner right now, but I'll be back. [Thu Dec 13 04:52:06 2001] |
| 05:23:52 | jacques | ibot: seen a7r |
| 06:30:09 | WarWizard | Anyone want to make me a jtag and sell it to me? or know a place I can buy one? they dont seem to be on sale at aleph1 |
| 06:30:40 | WarWizard | I am trying to make a jtag but my electronic skills are very poor and I dont think I am putting it together right |
| 06:52:05 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 days, 22 hours, 21 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: ngiht [Sat Dec 8 08:30:33 2001] |
| 06:52:05 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 08:09:19 | | Russ was last seen on #tuxscreen 7 hours, 7 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: ALT-F s, ALT-F u, ALT-F b would be helpfull [Thu Dec 13 01:01:58 2001] |
| 08:09:19 | Sammy | ibot: seen Russ ? |
| 08:15:28 | julien | hi all |
| 09:23:28 | ctr | is away: collecting keys |
| 09:51:22 | ctr | is back (gone 00:27:54) |
| 13:53:59 | Morn | morning all |
| 14:34:20 | RedBaron | Good morning |
| 14:44:13 | Morn | is fighting with nfs stuff for the tuxscreen this morning |
| 14:44:39 | RedBaron | Morn: how is that going? |
| 14:45:05 | Morn | I've got networking up and running, but I need to add the nfs-utils-clients to the ramdisk image |
| 14:45:26 | Morn | then I should be able to mount and pivot root the famiar distro on it |
| 14:45:45 | RedBaron | *nod* |
| 14:46:00 | Morn | really needs more sleep |
| 14:46:20 | RedBaron | hehe. Sleep helps...or so I have heard. |
| 14:46:42 | Morn | I joke about sleep being for the weak and undisciplined... but I'm going to extremes |
| 14:47:15 | RedBaron | *chuckle* |
| 14:48:47 | RedBaron | Sheesh. Reading my mornings dose of slashdot ... /. is just getting more and more divided on cool science articles and disturbing political articles. |
| 14:49:23 | Morn | I gave up on /. it tends to be a bit biased |
| 14:49:53 | RedBaron | Yeah...but its still the best techo-geek news site around. I just try to ignore the political ones |
| 14:51:26 | Morn | finding the source for the nfs client side of things shouldn't be this hard! |
| 14:51:43 | RedBaron | hehe |
| 14:51:56 | Morn | I found nfs-utils but that wasn't what I needed |
| 14:52:20 | Morn | I'd just get the rpm and extract the source from it, but rpmfind.net seems to be down |
| 14:52:39 | RedBaron | What do you need? I thought all you should need for the client side is the kernel NFS driver and mount. |
| 14:53:23 | Morn | I tried mount 192.168.0.1:/home/julie/intimate / and it just gets a lot of timeouts |
| 14:53:45 | RedBaron | Have you tried the latest util-linux on kernel.org? |
| 14:54:05 | Morn | oh wait, I didn't realize it did work |
| 14:54:16 | Morn | it just printing a lot of warnings |
| 14:54:24 | RedBaron | Ah |
| 14:54:25 | RedBaron | ok |
| 14:54:33 | Morn | alright... |
| 14:54:37 | Morn | now to pivot-root |
| 14:54:41 | Morn | how do you do that? |
| 14:54:41 | RedBaron | cool |
| 14:54:51 | RedBaron | I dont know. Never messed with pivot root |
| 15:01:15 | Morn | I was telling a friend about all this and she just told me I was a terible geekette |
| 15:01:35 | Morn | who can't spell |
| 15:01:59 | prpplague | Morn: whats wrong with being a geekette? |
| 15:02:08 | Morn | for me? nothing, I like it :-) |
| 15:02:22 | Morn | and my friend thinks it is neat that I do this stuff |
| 15:02:46 | Morn | why do I get portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out (yet the mount works) |
| 15:03:36 | RedBaron | Sounds like portmap is trying to talk to local NFS server. But if you dont have that compiled into the kernel, it wont be able to talk to it |
| 15:03:51 | RedBaron | You dont need portmap on the client side. |
| 15:03:52 | prpplague | the hostname of your machine could not be matched to a host table or dns lookup |
| 15:03:54 | Morn | it just takes about 3-4 minutes to do the mount because of waiting for the timeout |
| 15:04:22 | prpplague | i normally use portmap in a manual mode for client side functions like nfs |
| 15:04:45 | Morn | prpplague: I'm new to nfs I usually use smbfs for my lan |
| 15:05:41 | Morn | prpplague: do you know anything about doing a pivot root? |
| 15:05:43 | prpplague | Morn: you can look at a sample rootfs at http://www.abcsinc.com/yopy/tcsx1-rootfs.tar.gz |
| 15:06:00 | prpplague | Morn: only what i've read, i'm not using it yet |
| 15:06:08 | Morn | ok, thanks |
| 15:06:11 | RedBaron | prpplague: I've never run a client side without portmap, but I dont think you need it? |
| 15:06:38 | prpplague | RedBaron: it works fine without the portmap, however the mount sequence takes much longer |
| 15:06:43 | Morn | for some reason I can't write to the nfs mount from the client |
| 15:06:49 | Morn | but I gave it rw in the config |
| 15:06:59 | RedBaron | prpplague: ah. ok |
| 15:07:03 | prpplague | RedBaron: for the size and mem usage of running portmap i found it was easier to install it |
| 15:07:14 | Morn | /home/julie/intimate 192.168.0.1(rw) 192.168.0.100(rw) |
| 15:07:21 | Morn | that should make it rw right? |
| 15:07:38 | RedBaron | Morn: Might need to do: mount -o rw ... |
| 15:07:48 | Morn | I did that... |
| 15:07:52 | RedBaron | ok |
| 15:08:23 | RedBaron | Are you trying to change the file system as root or as a user? |
| 15:08:25 | Morn | 192.168.0.1:/home/julie/intimate 60.3G 2.5G 54.8G 4% /mnt/root |
| 15:08:33 | Morn | as root |
| 15:09:05 | RedBaron | access as root is automaticly squashed unless you supply the nosquashroot (or something like that) flag on the server side config. |
| 15:09:20 | Morn | ah |
| 15:09:23 | Morn | didn't know that |
| 15:09:46 | RedBaron | and if you want to access via a user, make sure the UID's match up on both sides. :) |
| 15:09:48 | Morn | root needs to be able to write for this to work since changes need to be made to system files |
| 15:10:58 | pattieja | is back (gone 16:06:39) |
| 15:16:40 | prpplague | Morn: have a look at the sample fs i pointed you to |
| 15:16:51 | Morn | ok, I will |
| 15:17:24 | prpplague | Morn: the rootfs is mount ro, but all the nessary files that need to be writen to are created in a ramdisk that is rw |
| 15:18:17 | prpplague | Morn: any constant files that need to be modified occasionaly can be writen to a /tmp file first, then you can remount rw, cp, then remount ro |
| 15:18:31 | RedBaron | hrm. I havent done a buildroot in a while. I just regot buildroot and made it. It dies during the build of uClibc. it tries to copy some files into the staging directoy and fails because they dont exist. Anyone seen this problem? |
| 15:19:08 | prpplague | is still in barbados and suffering from arm development withdrawal |
| 15:19:21 | prpplague | RedBaron: sorry help from me |
| 15:19:26 | Morn | prpplague: what is the command to re-read the exports file on the server |
| 15:19:27 | RedBaron | prpplague: Whatcha doing down there? |
| 15:19:30 | prpplague | s/help/no help |
| 15:19:41 | prpplague | Morn: exportfs -av |
| 15:19:59 | prpplague | RedBaron: large raid array |
| 15:20:07 | Morn | ok, thanks |
| 15:20:27 | RedBaron | prpplague: setting one up or rescuing one? |
| 15:20:32 | Morn | I had a client that wanted me to help them build a terrabyte raid but they insisted on using 15k scsi drives for it |
| 15:20:36 | Morn | I told them they were nuts |
| 15:21:06 | prpplague | Morn: ya thats what this and its terrible |
| 15:21:13 | prpplague | shh, don't tell that to the customer |
| 15:21:17 | Morn | giggle |
| 15:21:25 | Morn | it's just that 15k drives are limited in size |
| 15:21:31 | Morn | it takes way too many to make a raid that big |
| 15:21:38 | prpplague | Morn: yep |
| 15:21:48 | Morn | and I don't believe that the faster spindle speed really helps in the raid array config |
| 15:22:00 | prpplague | we've been looking into using some of adtx g-series stuff for our smaller installs |
| 15:23:25 | prpplague | Morn: what are you working on now? |
| 15:23:27 | Morn | this client was also insisting that they needed 2GigaBit ethernet for a lan with 10 users |
| 15:23:51 | prpplague | doh |
| 15:23:54 | Morn | thinks Dr. Karron needs to lay off the LSD for a while |
| 15:24:09 | RedBaron | Let me guess. The 10 users only needed to send emails to each other, right? |
| 15:24:42 | Morn | He wanted to do video streaming (uncompressed) for HDTV (seemed like he wanted to do it for fun since it didn't fit into the business they were in) |
| 15:24:48 | prpplague | RedBaron: better yet, they need to do yahoo messenger |
| 15:25:26 | RedBaron | prpplague: *grin* Well, those instant messenger protocols are horribly bandwidth intensive. Much worse than streaming HDTV uncompressed. *chuckle* |
| 15:25:56 | prpplague | RedBaron: thats the one application my company insists on using |
| 15:26:19 | RedBaron | Morn: Why HDTV? so they could all watch the same movie in their offices? |
| 15:26:37 | RedBaron | prpplague: yahoo messenger? Huh. |
| 15:26:43 | Morn | I have no idea, this guy seemed to be against any compression protocols |
| 15:27:09 | Morn | I mean I do avi streaming off a server here at the house with 100MB ethernet with no trouble |
| 15:27:11 | Morn | and it works great |
| 15:27:52 | signal11 | if you have money to burn, why not try to push the envelope |
| 15:28:04 | Morn | you want to know the kicker? |
| 15:28:08 | RedBaron | Morn: I watch divx avi's which are served off a winblows box and watched on another other 100bT ether and its perfectly fine. Even using microsofts file sharing protocol which is horribly slow. |
| 15:28:20 | Morn | I helped them get a $2Million grant for R&D and I never got paid for my 2 months of work |
| 15:28:28 | signal11 | that sucks |
| 15:28:29 | RedBaron | Morn: Nice |
| 15:28:45 | Morn | and I paid $1000 a month to live on the floor of the office while I was doing it |
| 15:28:53 | Morn | this was in Manhattan |
| 15:31:26 | Morn | runs ipkg install task-complete |
| 15:31:30 | Morn | lets see if this works |
| 15:31:43 | Morn | hmmm, no network traffic |
| 15:33:14 | Morn | wait, large amounts of network traffic between the tux screen and the server just not going out to the internet yet |
| 15:35:20 | Morn | ok, that's better |
| 15:35:36 | Morn | I forgot that after I did the chroot I hadn't setup /etc/resolv.conf on the new root yet |
| 15:39:13 | thekernel | That would put a damper on things |
| 15:39:21 | Morn | yes it would |
| 15:39:27 | thekernel | Not that I'm any better :) |
| 15:39:34 | Morn | well it's doing the task-complete install |
| 15:39:41 | Morn | I'm gonna take a break |
| 15:40:54 | RedBaron | Ah hah. Found that make problem. |
| 15:41:10 | RedBaron | The uClibc makefile had changed apparently. It had a line: cp -LR ... ... |
| 15:41:34 | RedBaron | Well, cp for a redhat 6.2 (Dont know about other dists) realy does not like -L. |
| 15:49:19 | RedBaron | Heh. I see. my fileutils are too old. |
| 16:02:49 | Morn | I guess I should have set the time first on the tux screen |
| 16:02:50 | Morn | ooops |
| 16:03:01 | Niddix | There isn't anyone here that works for a harddisk repair shop is there? :) |
| 16:03:23 | Morn | not I |
| 16:03:49 | RedBaron | Nope. I wish I had access to tools for that. :) |
| 16:04:10 | Morn | I heard just doing a dd multiple times is about the same thing they do at those shops |
| 16:04:39 | Niddix | Cept I need someone who has access to a clean room ;) |
| 16:04:49 | Niddix | I've got a dead onboard controller. |
| 16:05:09 | Morn | isn't it cheaper to just replace the motherboard? |
| 16:05:15 | Morn | I mean with the cost of motherboards today |
| 16:05:26 | RedBaron | I believe he means onboard to the drive. |
| 16:05:46 | Morn | ah |
| 16:05:53 | Morn | was confused. |
| 16:05:56 | Niddix | Its internal to the drive. And unfortunatley I need some of the data thats trapped on it. |
| 16:06:03 | Niddix | onboard IDE controller. |
| 16:06:08 | Niddix | Not motherboard., |
| 16:06:38 | RedBaron | Niddix: that is unfortunate. You'll be paying a lot to get that data back. |
| 16:06:43 | Niddix | No kidding. |
| 16:07:18 | Niddix | Anywhere from $400-$2200 |
| 16:07:24 | Niddix | Its not that important.. |
| 16:07:41 | RedBaron | Niddix: *chuckle* |
| 16:07:46 | Morn | hey, is it possible to make a 'recording' of a real audio stream, I mean can I copy the data going to /dev/dsp to a file as well as playing it? |
| 16:08:32 | Morn | the data going to /dev/dsp should in .au format so it could be converted to a mp3 easily |
| 16:08:55 | RedBaron | I dont think you can copy from /dev/dsp .. |
| 16:08:57 | RedBaron | but... |
| 16:09:05 | RedBaron | You could get around it by a little hack |
| 16:09:17 | Morn | I had a program under windows that could do this |
| 16:09:25 | Morn | i just wondered if I could do it under linux |
| 16:09:52 | RedBaron | Make /dev/dsp a named fifo. write a little program which reads from that fifo and copies everything to the real dsp device file. And also copy stuff to an actual file |
| 16:10:04 | RedBaron | Since all the programs just open up the file /dev/dsp |
| 16:10:17 | Morn | tee could do that I think |
| 16:10:33 | RedBaron | Cept the programs wont run through tee. they'll open /dev/dsp directly |
| 16:10:43 | Morn | ah |
| 16:10:49 | RedBaron | If you can make them run through tee, so much the better :) |
| 16:11:33 | CosmicPenguin | Did you all see the Usnet timeline on Google? |
| 16:11:36 | CosmicPenguin | Its hilarious.... |
| 16:11:54 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Nope...whats it about? |
| 16:12:03 | Morn | It's just that Jimmy Buffet broadcasts all of his concerts live over Radio Margaritaville and it would be nice to make an mp3 of one of them |
| 16:12:51 | Niddix | You could always plug into the headphone jack..back into the linein on the soundcard. |
| 16:13:03 | RedBaron | Morn: I bet you could run tee and have the shell redirect its stdin to be the file /dev/dsp (Which would have to be a named fifo, and not the device file) ... then have it output to the device file and a regular file |
| 16:14:18 | Morn | RedBaron: I'll try that (right after I figure out how to make a named fifo) |
| 16:15:55 | RedBaron | Morn: mknod <name> p |
| 16:16:38 | Morn | prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 13 11:17 dsp.new| |
| 16:16:41 | Morn | that look right? |
| 16:16:47 | RedBaron | Yup |
| 16:16:50 | Morn | thanks |
| 16:18:31 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Google put together a timeline of the *firsts* in usnet history going back 20 years... |
| 16:18:50 | CosmicPenguin | You can see the first Linus posting, the first mention of AIDs, the first annoucement of the world wide web, etc..... |
| 16:19:08 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html |
| 16:19:28 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: isn't it mkfifo> |
| 16:19:33 | CosmicPenguin | s/>/? |
| 16:20:09 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: They both work |
| 16:20:14 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: I don't know, actually I'm looking for info on programming a fifo device |
| 16:20:26 | Morn | I think a program to do this would be neat |
| 16:20:27 | Morn | and useful |
| 16:21:00 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: For example? |
| 16:21:07 | Niddix | Might even get you a nice letter from Jimmy Buffet's lawyer ;) |
| 16:21:08 | RedBaron | The program to copy from the fifo to the device file, and copying to a regular file...would be very simple. |
| 16:21:09 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: a FIFO hardware device, or a pipe? |
| 16:21:25 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: a pipe |
| 16:21:30 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhhh..... |
| 16:21:32 | Morn | Niddix: I'm sure |
| 16:22:00 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, Jimmy Buffet's lawyer hacks on the Tuxscreen in his spare time..... |
| 16:22:48 | Niddix | CosmicPenguin: What a coincidence. |
| 16:27:28 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Interesting timeline. I like RMS's first post about GNU |
| 16:33:18 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Yep.... he has gotten much crazier since then, eh? |
| 16:34:03 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Yeah. But I suppose having most of the world against you would make anyone crazy. Or at least percieving that most of the world is against you. |
| 16:34:45 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: I would agree. |
| 16:34:54 | CosmicPenguin | Darn that capitalism.... :-) |
| 16:35:33 | RedBaron | hehehe |
| 16:35:56 | kernelwork | CosmicPenguin: The IBM PC... "Business configurations at about $4,500" |
| 16:36:34 | CosmicPenguin | kernelwork: I had access to one of those! PC-DOS 2.0.... I loved that thing. QBASIC rocked... |
| 16:36:54 | kernelwork | We used to have an 8088... |
| 16:37:06 | CosmicPenguin | THe original pc was an 8086... :) |
| 16:37:09 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: I had one of those during the first year of college. 8088. |
| 16:37:16 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Regular PC or XT? |
| 16:37:29 | RedBaron | Labeled as IBM PC. thats it |
| 16:37:36 | CosmicPenguin | No hard drive? |
| 16:37:47 | RedBaron | But it was a 8088. No hard drive. Two low density 5 1/4 floppies. |
| 16:38:02 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Yeah.... that was the PC. The XT tossed on a 10MB hard drive too..... |
| 16:38:17 | RedBaron | My father had bought an expansion board which had a printer port and expanded the memory out to a full meg. |
| 16:38:44 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: How did you use the memory above 640K? I would expect that was the days before highmem.... |
| 16:38:51 | kernelwork | I remember when my dad upgraded the 10MB disk to a 25 that was 1/4 the size :) |
| 16:39:03 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: I ran dos 5 on it. along with highmem. :) |
| 16:39:12 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Ahhh..... |
| 16:39:29 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: hell...I ran stacker on it and wordstar .... of all the ugly things. Only because I had a copy of it. |
| 16:39:48 | CosmicPenguin | We had wordstar too..... I couldn't ever get the hang of it. |
| 16:40:09 | CosmicPenguin | But I also had Borland pascal with the integrated IDE..... |
| 16:40:26 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Oh and spent way way way too many hours playing civilization on that 8088. You ever generate a new civ world on an 8088? *chuckle* Took about an hour. |
| 16:40:37 | kernelwork | I learned C on Borland's Turbo C++ version 1.0 |
| 16:41:00 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Ah. I wasnt into programming way back then. It wasnt until I got hooked on MUDs in college that I got into programming. |
| 16:41:06 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Didn't play civ, but I was very addicted to the original SimCity |
| 16:41:35 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: SimCity was a good game. But I didnt play it too much. |
| 16:41:47 | kernelwork | CosmicPenguin : I remember waiting 10 minutes for a year to go by on the fastest setting in SimCity |
| 16:42:06 | CosmicPenguin | I downloaded a hack that would give you something like 10 million dollars for your city..... |
| 16:42:25 | CosmicPenguin | ahhhh..... |
| 16:42:31 | CosmicPenguin | wipes away a tear... |
| 16:42:35 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Yeah. I ran that hack too. :) |
| 16:42:42 | RedBaron | The memories.... |
| 16:43:01 | kernelwork | played MS Flight Sim |
| 16:43:15 | kernelwork | That's what got me into programming |
| 16:44:41 | RedBaron | I was never into the flightsims. |
| 16:45:00 | kernelwork | I would make scenery, make planes... I ended up spending more time trying to make things for it than actually playing it. |
| 16:46:18 | RedBaron | kernelwork: *chuckle* I know the feeling. I was like that with MUDs. |
| 16:46:56 | RedBaron | kernelwork: It go so bad that I wrote my own MUD from scratch. But I never finished it. It ended up as a chat room with socials and rooms. I never did the combat system. |
| 16:47:09 | kernelwork | It was in the end of the 9th grade when I decided I wanted to learn how to write program. |
| 16:47:35 | kernelwork | er... programs... |
| 16:48:36 | RedBaron | kernelwork: *nod* |
| 16:48:49 | kernelwork | I thought I was going to learn basic and pascal first, but then decided to jump right into C |
| 16:50:15 | RedBaron | My father had given me a book on programming in basic. And I fiddled around with it. Made some programs which drew little animations on the screen. But that was it. Until I got hooked on MUDs. And I decided I had to learn C. So I did |
| 16:50:15 | kernelwork | Looking back at the simple programs I looked at that my dad had written I can't believe how hard they looked. |
| 16:50:32 | RedBaron | *chuckle* I know the feeling |
| 16:53:19 | kernelwork | I also spent some time in the programming room at my school a few times while waiting for people. It's amazing how much easier it is to come up with a solution when it's not your problem to solve :) |
| 16:54:02 | kernelwork | When i go to write my own programs sometimes I'm just stumped. |
| 17:03:41 | RedBaron | Oh my god. Check out this. Telnet to 62.250.7.101 with a good vt100 terminal emulator. Its the first Star Wars movie in text. The entire thing it looks like. |
| 17:19:02 | BZFlag | same as: http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ ? |
| 17:19:09 | Morn | Jesus that might have been hard to do... |
| 17:19:29 | RedBaron | BZFlag: Not sure. Someone just pointed it out to me. |
| 17:19:56 | RedBaron | Morn: Nah. The programming wouldnt be to hard to do. It just would have been tedious to do all the ascii art. |
| 17:20:04 | Morn | that's what I mean |
| 17:20:11 | RedBaron | Morn: *nod* |
| 17:20:16 | RedBaron | Yeah. Lots of work. |
| 17:21:06 | BZFlag | RedBaron: yep, he credits the source on the first page. |
| 17:21:16 | RedBaron | BZFlag: ah. |
| 17:24:51 | Morn | ipkg install task-complete crashed part way through because it ran out of memory |
| 17:25:06 | Morn | somehow I don't think creating a swap file on the nfs drive would be a bright idea |
| 17:26:37 | RedBaron | Morn: Swap over nfs used to not work...not sure if it does now. I dont recall. |
| 17:27:05 | Morn | I just restarted the install and it seems to be continuing |
| 17:30:35 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: That is way too wicked cool...... |
| 17:31:32 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to copy C3P0 and add it to my signature.... :) |
| 17:40:52 | CosmicPenguin | Oh damn.... they only do about half the movie..... |
| 18:09:40 | Morn | hmmm, I have a basic X server running on the tux via familar |
| 18:09:46 | Morn | no touch screen but... |
| 18:38:39 | Morn | ok, now I can display a rxvt from the tux screen on my main box |
| 18:38:43 | Morn | but the fonts are screwy |
| 19:27:35 | kernelwork | *ping* |
| 19:28:54 | | hola, Morn |
| 19:28:54 | Morn | hi |
| 19:29:07 | Morn | kernelwork: do you know much about pivot_root? |
| 19:33:02 | | i guess pivot_root is at http://www.linux.gr/cgi-bin/man2html/usr/share/man/man2/pivot_root.2.gz |
| 19:33:02 | kernelwork | What's pivot_root? |
| 19:33:23 | Morn | I think I got it working... |
| 19:33:53 | Morn | but I need to figure out how to make the system automatically do that after the nfs mount is mounted |
| 19:34:02 | Morn | and run /linuxrc |
| 19:36:28 | Morn | is there a top command for the tuxscreen? |
| 19:58:25 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: doubtful...... |
| 19:58:31 | CosmicPenguin | ps -ef is your friend |
| 19:58:40 | Morn | I'm trying to find out what is eating all the memory |
| 19:59:25 | ctr | is away: shower |
| 20:00:04 | RedBaron | Or you could peruse /proc. :) |
| 20:00:11 | Morn | I did that |
| 20:00:21 | Morn | but it's a little difficult for mere humans to read |
| 20:00:35 | signal11 | morn did you get a chance to try my x server? |
| 20:01:05 | Morn | signal11: not yet... I just got familar installed |
| 20:01:12 | Morn | I'll put your X server on it and try |
| 20:01:56 | signal11 | at least you'll have a touch screen driver |
| 20:02:04 | Morn | that would be a good thing |
| 20:02:17 | Morn | first I need it to mount the nfs root and do pivot root properly |
| 20:02:18 | RedBaron | Morn: In case you'd like to know, 'man proc' look under 'stat'. It shows you the order of numbers in the stat file under /proc/<pid>/stat. memory size is included |
| 20:02:39 | Morn | so that everything is loaded properly |
| 20:03:27 | Morn | 192.168.0.1:/home/julie/intimate /mnt/root nfs rw 0 0 |
| 20:03:39 | Morn | is that not a good line in /etc/fstab for the mount? |
| 20:07:29 | signal11 | morn, it looks OK. |
| 20:07:46 | signal11 | syntax-wise |
| 20:07:50 | Morn | mount: Mounting 192.168.0.1:...@ }.@ on /mnt/root failed: Invalid argument |
| 20:08:19 | signal11 | can you mount from the command line? |
| 20:08:31 | Morn | I typed mount /mnt/root and that is what I got |
| 20:08:37 | Morn | oh you mean manually, hold on |
| 20:08:49 | signal11 | yeah, sorry |
| 20:09:19 | Morn | (null)mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file number NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! |
| 20:09:22 | Morn | hmmm |
| 20:09:32 | Morn | ooops |
| 20:09:37 | Morn | networking didn't start |
| 20:11:31 | Morn | now to figure out why it didn't configure the ethernet at boot |
| 20:11:36 | Morn | shakes head. |
| 20:21:06 | scanline | is away: food |
| 20:47:07 | Morn | it works! |
| 20:47:15 | Morn | now to find signal11's X server |
| 20:47:55 | scanline | is back (gone 00:26:50) |
| 21:31:54 | PleXeR | evening |
| 21:32:32 | | what's up, Morn |
| 21:32:32 | Morn | hi |
| 21:36:30 | PleXeR | hi |
| 21:36:49 | CosmicPenguin | Wow... ibot out of nowhere.... |
| 21:37:01 | PleXeR | hehe |
| 21:37:51 | | AlHazWork: i'm not following you... |
| 21:37:51 | AlHazWork | privet, ibot |
| 21:38:01 | AlHazWork | doesn't speak as many languages as quipu tho |
| 21:38:14 | | hey, AlHazWork |
| 21:38:14 | AlHazWork | niihau, ibot |
| 21:38:28 | AlHazWork | we had to teach quipu turkish while we were on chatnet . . . |
| 21:39:06 | AlHazWork | It turns out *!*@*.tr has been banned from almost all irc networks |
| 21:39:19 | AlHazWork | at the time chatnet was the only major exception |
| 21:39:54 | AlHazWork | turkish teenagers seem to have only two modes of conversation on irc |
| 21:39:57 | AlHazWork | 1: macho dork |
| 21:40:02 | AlHazWork | 2: oversexed wanker |
| 21:40:10 | AlHazWork | at least that's what we observed . . . |
| 21:40:39 | Tangent | AlHazWork : A friend of mine used to work for a turkish company, and he said the same about them... but not for irc |
| 21:40:46 | Niddix | So they are pretty much the same as American teenagers then... |
| 21:40:47 | AlHazWork | heh |
| 21:41:08 | AlHazWork | Niddix: Yeah but american teenagers have a third mode of "vacuous & flippant" |
| 21:41:22 | Niddix | AlHazWork: Oh yeah.. I forgot about that one. |
| 21:41:31 | AlHazWork | Tangent: For a while we ran an alicebot |
| 21:41:40 | AlHazWork | nick "alice" |
| 21:41:47 | kernelwork | is still considered by some to be a teenager... |
| 21:41:51 | AlHazWork | we usd to have megs of logs of turkish guys trying to chat it up |
| 21:42:01 | AlHazWork | and it even had a bug in it where it would frequently admit that it's a bot |
| 21:42:05 | Niddix | AlHazWork: I wonder how many turkish teenage boys pretend to be girls like american boys do. |
| 21:42:25 | AlHazWork | Niddix: You know, never saw a female nick from turkey |
| 21:43:18 | Niddix | has to run. |
| 21:43:35 | AlHazWork | we only had 20 ban slots, so we got stuck with one that was being rude & macho for too long we'd ask him if he'd seen any armenians lately |
| 21:43:41 | AlHazWork | they'd usually get pissed off and leave |
| 21:44:26 | AlHazWork | turkey did the same stuff to armenians during WWII that germany did to jews, but they never took the rap for it that germany did . . . . |
| 22:01:33 | bornet | is it only me, but i have many times the wrong pages at http://tuxscreen.net/ |
| 22:01:46 | bornet | today, i have the "Tim Riker World |
| 22:01:46 | bornet | " pages |
| 22:02:08 | bornet | but on http://www.tuxscreen.net/, this is allways OK |
| 22:02:13 | CosmicPenguin | bornet: The DNS was switched on ya..... |
| 22:02:48 | bornet | great. It's OK now. |
| 22:02:52 | BZFlag | boris: it's a DNS bug in my router. It's been fixed for over a month now, but the wrong values got sent out with TTL=0 do the only fix if for you to restart your name servers. |
| 22:03:41 | bornet | BZFlag: i see... but as the name servers are not mine... |
| 22:04:02 | bornet | so i will access www.tuxscreen.net when the problem come back. |
| 22:04:30 | bornet | BZFlag: (bornet, not boris ;-) thanks auto-completion) |
| 22:04:51 | BZFlag | you will get http://rikers.org/ sometimes (mine) and http://codepoet.org/ at others (my DNS secondary) |
| 22:05:05 | BZFlag | oops, yep bornet |
| 22:05:16 | bornet | BZFlag: right. i have see both. |
| 22:05:34 | bornet | BZFlag: btw, i'm allways waiting on my tuxscreen... |
| 22:05:52 | bornet | BZFlag: can we check where it is now ? |
| 22:06:44 | bornet | BZFlag: last time, you have say to me it was sent 30 of November |
| 22:06:59 | bornet | BZFlag: so, it's now 2 weeks :-( |
| 22:12:09 | Morn | Tim: I have Familiar running via nfs on the TuxScreen |
| 22:13:29 | Morn | I did it a little different from your example on the web page though |
| 22:13:47 | Morn | I made changes to the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to do it |
| 22:15:12 | BZFlag | bornet: I don't know what to tell ya. I only get tracking info for [global]express packages. |
| 22:15:44 | BZFlag | Morn: please create a wiki page for your method ;-) |
| 22:15:52 | Morn | Ok, no problem |
| 22:16:05 | Morn | I'll have to figure out the Wiki system first :-) |
| 22:19:32 | bornet | BZFlag: i have choose the "air mail parcel" and they say 4-7 days |
| 22:20:10 | bornet | BZFlag: hope i will receive it before santa claus come. ;-) |
| 22:21:02 | Morn | will the 32meg SODIMM work now? |
| 22:21:10 | Morn | I have to find mine first |
| 22:23:02 | BZFlag | Morn: no progress on the sodimm. still visible as an 8M so 16M total. |
| 22:23:38 | Morn | with the Xfbdev I did get a X server up and logged into my solaris box |
| 22:23:44 | Morn | but the touch screen didn't work |
| 22:32:31 | Morn | Tim: I put the info in Wiki under my account (MornHyland) |
| 22:50:31 | BZFlag | Morn: thanx. simple, but functional. note that the ramfs/proc mounts still exist on the old mount if you do it that way. You will not be able to unmount the old root. |
| 22:50:47 | BZFlag | some script changes could probably fix that. |
| 22:53:04 | AlHazWork | BZFlag: oh, you might have wanted to know - the blob in v0.5 is a complete bust on the phone I tried it on |
| 22:53:23 | AlHazWork | got odd errors flashing kernel & ramdisk |
| 22:53:50 | AlHazWork | couldn't boot linux properly either |
| 22:54:58 | BZFlag | AlHazWork: ugh. I'm using the 2.0.5-pre* that I uploaded. flashing and booting work fine here. |
| 22:55:28 | BZFlag | perhaps I should just nuke it and have folks use the v0.4 version if there are issues. |
| 22:55:36 | AlHazWork | BZFlag: I was able to flash back the old version of the blob, at least |
| 22:55:45 | BZFlag | or, you built one from the tree and it failed? |
| 22:55:51 | AlHazWork | no, I used the binary |
| 22:55:55 | BZFlag | hmmm. |
| 22:56:14 | AlHazWork | I could give it another shot |
| 22:56:17 | BZFlag | I'll nuke it till we get a new stable. |
| 22:56:26 | AlHazWork | it was the one at my desk, I took that phone home tho |
| 22:58:31 | AlHazWork | i dumped my old mustek scanner in your cube, btw. |
| 23:02:51 | BZFlag | I saw it, thanx! |
| 23:04:53 | AlHazWork | welcome |
| 23:05:46 | AlHazWork | hope you don't have any trouble with it - I don't even recall what i did to set it up. |
| 23:06:09 | AlHazWork | and the last time i dug it out of the closet and used it, xscanimage just sorta found it |
| 23:06:22 | AlHazWork | so maybe it's magic :) |
| 23:06:45 | AlHazWork | with the scanjet 5p i have to use hp:/dev/scanner for some reason |
| 23:17:28 | CosmicPenguin | I like James Simmon's new signature: give Microsoft the bird |
| 23:17:33 | CosmicPenguin | Thats amusing.. :) |