| 00:00:18 | Morn | he CTCP fingered me |
| 00:00:39 | MicroChip32 | lolol |
| 00:00:46 | Morn | is back (gone 00:41:29) |
| 00:00:50 | MicroChip32 | he'll get a suprise if he probes me ;) |
| 00:01:15 | Morn | giggles. |
| 00:01:18 | CosmicPenguin | I wanted to see if that e-mail that my boss sent out was you or not |
| 00:01:31 | Morn | what did I do this time? |
| 00:01:42 | Morn | did I get a 'Don't talk to this lady!' |
| 00:01:48 | MicroChip32 | CosmicPenguin: she sounds guilty :) |
| 00:01:54 | CosmicPenguin | No, he just passed on your comments..... |
| 00:02:14 | Morn | Maybe I should write some more |
| 00:02:15 | CosmicPenguin | if that was you.... |
| 00:02:25 | Morn | what did 'I' say? |
| 00:03:14 | CosmicPenguin | You asked about compiling with a 3.02 kernel.... that *was* you, wasn't it? |
| 00:03:15 | Morn | listens to Tracy Chapman... |
| 00:03:23 | Morn | Yes that was me |
| 00:05:21 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: you wouldn't be able to give me a non-jffs2 version of the root image would you? |
| 00:05:29 | Morn | so I could mess with making a new image... |
| 00:06:37 | Morn | I really want to access the CF card |
| 00:06:49 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Thats a tough one... I could ask the powers that be on Monday... |
| 00:07:11 | Morn | Ok... I am just having trouble getting the mtd modules working here |
| 00:07:18 | Morn | so I can get everything out of the image |
| 00:07:33 | Morn | the linux gods are frowning on me |
| 00:07:59 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: At least they aren't throwing things at you... |
| 00:08:20 | Morn | no my roommate does enough of that |
| 00:08:42 | scanline | is away: food |
| 00:08:45 | scanline | is away: food |
| 00:11:11 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Are they soft things? |
| 00:11:36 | Morn | mostly... it was fun at NSI we had a bunch of nerf toys that we would throw at each other occasionally |
| 00:11:41 | Morn | ok, more than occasionally |
| 00:12:26 | CosmicPenguin | We used to have rubber band fights before they took away the rubber bands... |
| 00:12:32 | MicroChip32 | in college ya should have nerf look-alikes of your professors :) |
| 00:12:36 | Morn | I hate it when that happens. |
| 00:12:47 | Morn | never went to college, sorry |
| 00:12:50 | CosmicPenguin | MicroChip32: Yeah, but when you burn them, they give off toxic fumes... :) |
| 00:12:56 | MicroChip32 | rotfl CosmicPenguin |
| 00:13:13 | MicroChip32 | Morn: consider yourself lucky, no big tuition bills |
| 00:14:08 | Morn | I consider myself self educated... though I got treated like an idiot by the last place I worked (run by a PhD who thought if you didn't have a PhD there was no way you could write code) |
| 00:14:55 | MicroChip32 | Morn: i consider myself self-educated too, despite two [worthless imho] degrees |
| 00:15:36 | MicroChip32 | i hate arrogant types, gak |
| 00:15:37 | Morn | I really don't think you can learn programming and logic from a book |
| 00:15:50 | MicroChip32 | hehehe thats what CosmicPenguin and i were saying a couple mins ago :) |
| 00:16:02 | Morn | Dr. Karron (who insists you call him Dr.) has a degree in applied science |
| 00:16:08 | Russ | hey Morn |
| 00:16:15 | Russ | could you try something for me? |
| 00:16:19 | Morn | that means he took enough courses that they tired of him and threw him out with a degree |
| 00:16:23 | Morn | Russ: of course |
| 00:16:28 | MicroChip32 | rotfl Morn |
| 00:17:06 | CosmicPenguin | I think it would be fun to have a PhD in computer science..... |
| 00:17:06 | Russ | k, open up dhcpc.h |
| 00:17:15 | Morn | MicroChip32: I spent most of my time there fixing the stuff he messed up... |
| 00:17:20 | Morn | Russ: 'k |
| 00:17:37 | Russ | before "struct client_config_t {" |
| 00:17:38 | MicroChip32 | is rotflhclsao |
| 00:17:39 | Russ | add: |
| 00:17:47 | Russ | #undef PARM_REQUESTS |
| 00:17:52 | Russ | #define PARM_REQUESTS 1, 15, 3, 6, 44, 46, 47, 31, 33, 249, 43 |
| 00:17:57 | Russ | then make clean/make |
| 00:18:14 | Morn | undef the whole part there? |
| 00:18:32 | Russ | ? |
| 00:18:39 | Morn | forget it... |
| 00:18:43 | Morn | I misread something |
| 00:19:45 | Morn | should I take out the thing we did to change the size of the requests? |
| 00:19:58 | Russ | naw, leave it |
| 00:20:21 | Morn | ok, after my roommate gets done chatting I'll try it |
| 00:21:51 | CosmicPenguin | Well, I guess thats its time to go to the Xmas party.... |
| 00:21:53 | Russ | coo' |
| 00:22:56 | CosmicPenguin | MicroChip32: Good luck with the USB |
| 00:23:00 | CosmicPenguin | Bye all, see you on monday |
| 00:24:21 | Morn | MicroChip32: USB? |
| 00:24:31 | BZFlag | Russ: you got my msg on the flash programming? |
| 00:24:43 | BZFlag | wanna talk jtag theory for a sec? |
| 00:24:58 | MicroChip32 | Morn: yea im working on a usb device driver, cos is helping me learn the usb part |
| 00:25:03 | BZFlag | when you write bits out to a jtag ring, do you get bits in? |
| 00:25:24 | BZFlag | would it be possible to just loop through all the bits x times with no data loss? |
| 00:25:34 | Morn | MicroChip32: cool... I'm trying to figure out why when I connect my portable mp3 player to the usb port it causes linux to lock solid |
| 00:26:05 | BZFlag | then by wathing for patterns, you should be able to determine the number of bits in the loop, and perhaps some if not all of the devices in bht loop by using signatures? |
| 00:26:20 | MicroChip32 | Morn: first guess is [one of] the usb drivers are either broken or conflicting with one another |
| 00:27:24 | Morn | MicroChip32: used to be that I could access it via vmware |
| 00:27:39 | Morn | now it looks like it is being seen as a mass-storage device |
| 00:27:48 | Morn | and the scsi emulation starts to kick in |
| 00:27:56 | Morn | then it locks up solid... and I have to reboot |
| 00:27:59 | MicroChip32 | sounds like a very confused usb subsystem |
| 00:28:25 | Morn | it is basically a 20gig hd with a mp3 decoder built on top |
| 00:29:04 | MicroChip32 | dunno what else to tell ya |
| 00:29:10 | Morn | and it is a ScanDisk USB port |
| 00:29:17 | Russ | BZFlag: which one? |
| 00:29:25 | Morn | Neo25 from SSIAmerica |
| 00:29:34 | Russ | BZFlag: that is what is done |
| 00:29:39 | Russ | BZFlag: look at rmk's jtag code |
| 00:30:04 | GPSFan | BZFlag: I got my 2nd Tux today, I've unlocked the flash, blob'd it, installed the .4 Linux image, then re-flashed the kernel with a 2.4.16 I built with the help of jacques. and it works!! |
| 00:30:48 | Morn | GPSFan where are the patches for the 2.4.16 kernel? |
| 00:31:16 | GPSFan | Morn: they were in the cvs that buildroot grabbed. |
| 00:31:27 | Morn | ah ok |
| 00:32:19 | Morn | really needs to start sleeping more. |
| 00:32:59 | BZFlag | Russ: where is rmk's jtag code? |
| 00:33:13 | BZFlag | GPSFan: cool! |
| 00:34:14 | Russ | with the rest of his CVS iirc |
| 00:34:18 | jacques | and my latest X server with the 2.4.16 kernel has now run > 18 hours solid rotating remote xscreensaver demos |
| 00:34:19 | GPSFan | BZFlag: yea, I'm really stoked, all that hard work setting up Linux, & the cross chain paid off. |
| 00:34:48 | GPSFan | jacques: the kernel you helped me build the other day works!! |
| 00:34:48 | BZFlag | jacques: excellent! over nfs |
| 00:35:01 | BZFlag | jacques: excellent! over nfs? or local X with remote xscreensaver? |
| 00:35:07 | jacques | GPSFan: glad to hear it |
| 00:35:17 | jacques | BZFlag: local X with remote xscreensaver |
| 00:35:25 | GPSFan | jacques: ;>)) |
| 00:35:28 | BZFlag | jacques: sweet, very sweet. |
| 00:35:42 | Russ | :pserver:cvs@pubcvs.arm.linux.org.uk:/mnt/src/cvsroot |
| 00:35:43 | BZFlag | jacques: ready to integrate to buildroot then? ;-) |
| 00:35:55 | BZFlag | Russ: thanx, looking. |
| 00:36:09 | jacques | RX bytes:1545480789 (1473.8 Mb) TX bytes:1108569280 (1057.2 Mb) |
| 00:36:26 | jacques | BZFlag: I got keithp to fix the compilation of recent cvs somewhat |
| 00:36:47 | jacques | BZFlag: but the touchscreen does not work with X and recent kernels |
| 00:36:54 | jacques | BZFlag: that's the last missing piece |
| 00:37:14 | jacques | BZFlag: recent kernel is stable, but ts no work - old kernel ts work but not stable |
| 00:38:54 | GPSFan | jacques: just re-flashed the jffs2, and it works too, no I've got a console on the display, and the keyboard works too. ;>) |
| 00:39:07 | GPSFan | s/no/now |
| 00:39:17 | jacques | GPSFan: yeah 2.4.16 has rockin backlight/lcd controls too |
| 00:39:34 | jacques | GPSFan: use the screen+/- keys, alone and with alt and ctrl |
| 00:39:40 | Morn | I got picogui to work with 2.4.16 |
| 00:39:52 | Morn | but not microwindows |
| 00:40:14 | GPSFan | jacques: yep, screen + - controll the brightness/contrast |
| 00:40:16 | jacques | Morn: GoRK wrote a special driver for picogui to work with latest ts |
| 00:40:33 | jacques | GPSFan: my favorite is the screen on/off |
| 00:40:42 | Morn | but after about 18 hours the picogui locks up |
| 00:40:55 | Morn | I have to kill it and restart it |
| 00:41:22 | GPSFan | jacques: how do you do screen on/off? |
| 00:41:32 | BZFlag | Russ: cvs co -c does not list modules. know the module name? or in the mtd tree? |
| 00:41:40 | jacques | GPSFan: I believe crtl-/+ |
| 00:41:58 | GPSFan | jacques: nope. |
| 00:42:09 | jacques | GPSFan: then try alt |
| 00:42:17 | jacques | GPSFan: it works forme :-) |
| 00:42:27 | Russ | BZFlag: try jtag |
| 00:42:28 | scanline | is back (gone 00:33:43) |
| 00:42:29 | AeroSpace | jacques: Is brightness and contrast tied together or can you control them independently? |
| 00:42:38 | BZFlag | jacques: ahh. anyone working on the touchscreen stuff? I think iPAQ is going to forward port the old ts driver, right? |
| 00:42:39 | jacques | AeroSpace: independet |
| 00:42:43 | BZFlag | Russ: tried. |
| 00:42:46 | Russ | GPSFan: do you have 2.4.16-rmk1-tux2? |
| 00:42:53 | Russ | BZFlag: email rmk |
| 00:42:56 | GPSFan | Russ: yep. |
| 00:42:58 | jacques | BZFlag: yes, hh.ogr is porting old driver |
| 00:43:01 | Russ | GPSFan: sorry, my bad |
| 00:43:16 | BZFlag | Russ: ugh... looked at my history and I mistyped it. sorry. |
| 00:43:35 | jacques | BZFlag: AFAIK nobody is actively working on xfree + new ts |
| 00:44:31 | BZFlag | jacques: it's just a scaling issue right? the protocol is the same, but the device returns absolute coordinates now? |
| 00:44:38 | jacques | AeroSpace: just the screen +/- control brightness (I think), alt-screen+/- control contrast (I think) and ctrl-screen+/- comtrol on/off |
| 00:44:48 | Russ | right, but I broke it in tux2 |
| 00:45:09 | jacques | BZFlag: they changed ioctls I heard, and new driver does not give pen up/down |
| 00:45:22 | jacques | BZFlag: not to mention the scaling/calibration |
| 00:45:32 | BZFlag | what do they have instead of pen up/down? |
| 00:45:37 | jacques | Russ: that explains it - I still have tux1 on that machine |
| 00:45:38 | Russ | http://russ.dhs.org/files/tuxpatches/russ_broke_ctrl-alt.diff |
| 00:45:46 | jacques | BZFlag: nothing - app has to poll |
| 00:45:52 | BZFlag | ugh! |
| 00:45:54 | AeroSpace | jacques: How I the screen+/- keys by themselves change the screen but I'm not finding any other way for it. I must be using an old patch or something because it doesn't work for me. This is the default bildroot-tux compiled today. |
| 00:46:00 | jacques | BZFlag: yeah, ugh |
| 00:46:21 | Russ | I broke ctrl-alt-screen+/- in tux2... |
| 00:46:21 | jacques | AeroSpace: Russ just said he broke it in tux2 - I have tux1 |
| 00:46:35 | Russ | but screen+/- work |
| 00:46:40 | jacques | Russ is making a liar out of me |
| 00:46:59 | AeroSpace | Russ: That's what I'm seeing. If I can get ppp to work I'll be happy. |
| 00:47:43 | BZFlag | someone should add pppd to buildroot as an option. ;-) |
| 00:47:57 | jacques | emphasis on "option" :-D |
| 00:48:17 | jacques | we shuld also have the full C99 math lib as an option |
| 00:48:19 | BZFlag | or perhaps emphasis on "someone" (tm) |
| 00:48:26 | jacques | BZFlag: touche |
| 00:48:43 | BZFlag | grins |
| 00:55:04 | jacques | BZFlag: we should talk about the best way to integrate tinyx into the buildroot |
| 00:55:14 | jacques | BZFlag: there are several issues to bear in mind |
| 00:55:49 | jacques | BZFlag: 1) xfree cvs HEAD is rather unstable and breaks a lot, especially for tinyx |
| 00:56:12 | jacques | 2) the sheer size of the source even compressed is rather large |
| 00:57:16 | AeroSpace | jacques: How big would it be if you could remove the files that aren't used? |
| 00:57:21 | jacques | 3) one of the files in lib/X11 wont compile with -O2 on most recent toolchains and requires -O1 (I do this manually) |
| 00:57:42 | jacques | 4) thre are a few tiny changes needed to get it to compile with uClibc |
| 00:58:25 | jacques | AeroSpace: I've never tried that - I download a pretty minimal set of files as it is - mostly only libs, clients, and server |
| 00:58:40 | jacques | AeroSpace: and the source is 60MB compressed |
| 00:59:24 | jacques | actually I think I can fix #3 pretty easily - there is a provision in the Imakefiles for that type of problem |
| 01:01:48 | Russ | anything Morn? |
| 01:01:53 | jacques | 5) the whole ts thing |
| 01:05:51 | BZFlag | jacques: I suggest (for many packages) that the Makefile do a cvs checkout on a known date (using -D) |
| 01:06:44 | BZFlag | so you could DL a recent tarball, and then cvs up -D it to what you want. |
| 01:07:15 | BZFlag | then apply local patches to handle your #3 and #4 |
| 01:09:30 | jacques | BZFlag: OK. I'm going to work on that |
| 01:10:02 | mallum | Hello all |
| 01:10:49 | jacques | BZFlag: ah I forgot one thing - one of the header files for uClibc has to be modified to not claim support for the wide character fnucs |
| 01:42:56 | bornet | do you think it's possible to install linux on the tuxscreen from an UltraSPARC/Linux ? |
| 01:44:33 | bornet | what's the most "difficult" step to do ? build the crosscompiler tool chain ? |
| 01:47:11 | BZFlag | jacques: send that info to andersee. k? |
| 01:47:27 | jacques | BZFlag: nod |
| 01:47:32 | BZFlag | bornet: after blob is on there, yes. |
| 01:48:03 | jacques | heh, no inferno emu for sparc/linux ? :-) |
| 01:50:27 | bornet | i see. So, i must install the blob from a intel/linux before... |
| 01:51:53 | bornet | then, make the tool chain if i want to use the sparc/linux system... |
| 01:56:10 | bornet | is the inferno emu running on intel/linux with a kernel 2.4 ? |
| 01:56:14 | BZFlag | inferno for sparc/linux might exist someplace, but I don't have it. |
| 01:56:44 | BZFlag | bornet: or order a phone for $99+$25+$20 which I will unlock and blob for you. |
| 01:57:24 | bornet | BZFlag: too late. i have order it end of last week. i'm now waiting on it. |
| 01:57:28 | BZFlag | bornet: Inferno on x86 linux has one version for 2.2.x and one for 2.4.x |
| 01:58:11 | BZFlag | bornet: best bet it to get access to an x86 linux box then and install the DLed inferno. |
| 01:58:25 | BZFlag | you do not need root, but you do need read/write access to the serial port. |
| 01:59:24 | bornet | BZFlag: it's ok. i also have a intel/linux 2.4 system |
| 01:59:48 | BZFlag | cool. that's easier cause there are DL versions of the x86->arm toolcahins. |
| 01:59:57 | Russ | Morn: gotta go, be back later |
| 02:00:20 | BZFlag | Russ: have you looked at that pcmcia-ext2 chain loader? |
| 02:00:32 | bornet | BZFlag: it's only i have more disk space on the sparc (and are more often on it) |
| 02:00:54 | BZFlag | bornet: nfs? ;-) |
| 02:01:19 | bornet | BZFlag: i allready have a x86->arm toolchain for the iPAQ/familiar |
| 02:02:06 | bornet | BZFlag: right. nfs is also working. but the intel is not allways at home (it's the work's computer) |
| 02:04:18 | BZFlag | ah |
| 02:04:39 | BZFlag | bornet: the same toolchain will work just fine. |
| 02:05:54 | bornet | BZFlag: cool. as i have make it "from scratch" for the iPAQ on the x86, i think i can remake it for the sparc... if i remember, because it was a long time ago... |
| 02:06:24 | BZFlag | yep |
| 02:06:48 | bornet | btw, i have just downloaded inferno/linux from vitanuova.com |
| 02:07:12 | bornet | their onyl talk about the linux 2.2 version |
| 02:07:22 | bornet | s/onyl/only/ |
| 02:07:33 | bornet | s/their/they/ |
| 02:08:15 | bornet | is the 2.4 on another site ? |
| 02:08:40 | BZFlag | the tuxscreen wiki has a patched emu for 2.4 |
| 02:10:09 | bornet | so, the linuxemu.gz is for 2.4 kernels ? |
| 02:10:13 | BZFlag | bornet: please document the steps you need to do to get is running. |
| 02:10:16 | BZFlag | yes. |
| 02:10:46 | BZFlag | you need to unpack the download, and get the wiki patched emu, replace the emu in the unpacked DL, |
| 02:10:55 | bornet | ok. |
| 02:10:58 | BZFlag | run the install, then replace the emu in the installed inferno. |
| 02:11:18 | BZFlag | I don't recall all the paths, but adding them to the wiki would be very useful. |
| 02:11:25 | bornet | ok. i will document this when i have done it |
| 02:11:32 | BZFlag | excellent. thanx! |
| 02:11:42 | bornet | btw, do you know if the tuxphone is allready sent ? |
| 02:11:48 | BZFlag | yes. |
| 02:12:06 | bornet | great ! Last week ? |
| 02:12:06 | BZFlag | your order was shipped tuesday iirc. |
| 02:12:18 | BZFlag | what day was the paypal sent? |
| 02:13:20 | bornet | thu, 29 Nov |
| 02:15:56 | BZFlag | Olivier Bornet ? yes shipped on Nov 30th actually. Airmail Parcel post. I don't have the insurrance number in fron of me, it's at home. |
| 02:16:58 | bornet | right. so i hope i will receive it begining of the next week. |
| 02:17:47 | bornet | (i must go to shop for buying a 220-110 converter soon ;-) ) |
| 02:18:49 | BZFlag | the computer will run off a 3.3v / 5v custom cable, but I think the PFI pin still needs work before the phone portion works well. |
| 02:19:08 | BZFlag | well, headed home. |
| 03:03:38 | Morn | Bart Kosko returned my email. |
| 03:03:43 | Morn | I'm a happy geekette |
| 04:10:13 | jacques | damn |
| 04:10:18 | jacques | buildroot is broken |
| 04:10:43 | jacques | => `/home/packages/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/sources/dl/busybox.tar.gz' |
| 04:10:43 | jacques | Connecting to busybox.lineo.com:80... connected! |
| 04:10:43 | jacques | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found |
| 04:23:17 | AeroSpace | I know I sent a patch. |
| 04:23:54 | AeroSpace | Sorry, I guess I didn't read your message close enough, it was the patch that was proken for me not getting the source. |
| 04:45:28 | AeroSpace | How do I tell init to re-read /etc/inittab? |
| 04:45:41 | jacquesZzZz | telint q |
| 04:46:03 | jacquesZzZz | but no telinit in busybox AFAICT |
| 04:46:43 | AeroSpace | jacques: So, reboot? |
| 04:47:02 | AeroSpace | Or can I kill -HUP it? |
| 04:47:15 | jacques | AeroSpace: I seem to remember bad things happening when I tried that |
| 04:47:23 | jacques | AeroSpace: killing init I mean |
| 04:47:59 | AeroSpace | It doesn't hurt the filesystem on a hard reboot does it? I don't have anything to loose. |
| 04:50:24 | jacques | AeroSpace: what do you mean hard reboot? |
| 04:51:25 | jacques | AeroSpace: anyway, you can power cycle your tuxscreen pretty much with impunity |
| 04:51:28 | AeroSpace | jacques: hitting reset or something if `kill -HUP 1` did something bad. But never mind,it didn't do anything so I just rebooted. |
| 04:51:42 | AeroSpace | jacques: That's good to keep in mind. |
| 04:51:59 | jacques | AeroSpace: jffs2 is extremely robust with respect to power loss |
| 05:00:15 | Morn | I just wish I could build the mtd modules properly so I could undo a jffs image and change it and recreate it |
| 05:10:03 | Russ | just build them from the kernel as modules |
| 05:12:42 | Morn | I've been having bad luck with them |
| 05:12:46 | Morn | I'm trying again |
| 05:12:49 | Morn | and again |
| 05:12:51 | Morn | and again |
| 05:14:10 | BZFlag | flashes a new kernel and jffs2 image |
| 05:14:30 | Morn | Tim: are you using any gui? |
| 05:15:53 | BZFlag | no this time, no. |
| 05:15:59 | Morn | 'k |
| 05:15:59 | BZFlag | er not this time... ;-) |
| 05:16:30 | BZFlag | I suppose I should try picogui. ;-) |
| 05:16:53 | Morn | I'm messing with it, but I'm hoping that they do a version of Pixil that runs on the tuxscreen |
| 05:17:56 | BZFlag | heh, have to finish the c++ uclibc stuff first. |
| 05:18:15 | Morn | I'm afraid that they are going to have my picture up at CenSoft with a note that says beware of this woman. |
| 05:19:08 | AeroSpace | I'm going through to configure a kernel for my tuxscreen and I'm deciding I don't need 'Input core support' 'Keyboard support' because they deal with USB. (This was in the default TuxScreen kernel). |
| 05:20:20 | BZFlag | the wireless keyboard uses the input code device hook iirc |
| 05:20:26 | BZFlag | er core. |
| 05:21:12 | AeroSpace | BZFlag: I thought it was an odd default. I guess I'll compile it in then... |
| 05:23:00 | BZFlag | feel free to try it without, but don't be suprised if the keyboard does not work. ;-) |
| 05:24:47 | AeroSpace | If I get time after I try out ppp, right now I don't have a serial login setup. |
| 05:24:47 | BZFlag | builds picogui |
| 05:30:36 | jacques | BZFlag: !!! |
| 05:30:57 | jacques | Connecting to busybox.lineo.com:80... connected! |
| 05:31:01 | jacques | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found |
| 05:31:19 | jacques | BZFlag: busybox is no longer at the URL in buildroot |
| 05:32:46 | jacques | mmm, uClibc C++ ==> fltk |
| 05:41:36 | andersee | Hi BZFlag |
| 05:41:57 | andersee | I noticed you removed make the phone work from the TODO list... |
| 05:42:28 | andersee | Shouldn't we have integrated tuxphone into the buildroot first? |
| 05:42:46 | BZFlag | heh ;-) I suppose. I was just bored while watching a phone compile. |
| 05:43:53 | andersee | heh |
| 05:43:54 | jacques | did you guys see what I said about busybox.tar.gz ? |
| 05:43:59 | andersee | Got a minute to merge it? |
| 05:44:19 | andersee | jacques: what was that? |
| 05:44:32 | andersee | jacques: whats wrong with it? |
| 05:45:34 | jacques | URL no longer works |
| 05:45:42 | jacques | buildroot loops |
| 05:46:33 | BZFlag | jacques: use busybox.net |
| 05:46:38 | BZFlag | I'll change cvs... |
| 05:47:45 | jacques | cool |
| 05:48:01 | BZFlag | eep. it's not there either. |
| 05:48:09 | BZFlag | andersee: ? you broke it. ;-) |
| 05:48:56 | andersee | jacques: ohh. hehe. Go visit http://busybox.lineo.com/ -- I think you will see what happened.... |
| 05:49:05 | andersee | jacques: I'll fix that one up though. |
| 05:49:17 | BZFlag | andersee: moving to ftp? |
| 05:49:55 | BZFlag | as there is no tarball in the http tree now. |
| 05:50:27 | andersee | The busybox.lineo.com http tree currently contains a redirect to busybox.net... |
| 05:51:02 | andersee | I'll fix things up in just a sec. Though we should point the buildroot to busybox.net now... |
| 05:51:40 | jacques | so nice of them to let you guys know |
| 05:51:49 | andersee | them? |
| 05:52:12 | andersee | I started converting things to busybox.net about an hour ago... |
| 05:52:26 | andersee | I've just missed a few things... |
| 05:53:29 | jacques | andersee: ah OK. I thought lineo had started kicking you off |
| 05:54:19 | andersee | Well, they may yet do just that. dunno. But I do want to be prepared -- hense busybox.net |
| 06:01:35 | andersee | jacques: it should work now.... |
| 06:02:24 | jacques | andersee: cool |
| 06:03:31 | andersee | My daily build script wasn't working properly... |
| 06:03:39 | andersee | Should be fixed now... |
| 06:04:33 | andersee | Though I hope to migrate everyone to using busybox.net for the future -- that way if lineo does bump me (or I chose to move) it will be painless |
| 06:13:05 | AeroSpace | The kernel won't link for me. Seems there are two copies of the zlib floating around the tree. One that ppp uses and the other that jffs2 uses. Do you think we could hack one off? They are almost identical. (jffs2 just has an additional =0 for a variable.) |
| 06:24:53 | andersee | Hmm. I'd heard about that one. |
| 06:25:25 | andersee | I'd figured it was fixed by now... |
| 06:31:12 | Morn | I think I seriously need to consider sleep, I went to make tea, put the tea bag in the cup and nuked it, I just forgot to add water |
| 06:35:29 | AeroSpace | andarsee: Not in 2.4.16, so I sent e-mail to the kernel list, except now that I think about it I forgot to write which kernel version. |
| 06:37:37 | jacques | andersee: do you use minislang? |
| 06:39:27 | andersee | sure do |
| 06:40:14 | andersee | With a slightly customized version of newt |
| 06:41:19 | jacques | andersee: on the page it says that minislang "fully emulates ncurses" |
| 06:41:28 | jacques | andersee: what does that mean? |
| 06:41:51 | jacques | andersee: I was trying to build top against minislang last night and there are definitely no compatibility defines... |
| 06:42:08 | jacques | andersee: and I could not even find the equivalent of tputs |
| 06:42:41 | andersee | That means that for most apps that linked vs ncurses, you can instead link them vs slang |
| 06:43:16 | jacques | andersee: how?? the ncurses funcs arent defined anywhere |
| 06:44:00 | jacques | andersee: at least in minislang - do I need to steal header files from slang? |
| 06:44:40 | andersee | Hmm. Its been a couple of years since I last ported an app from one to the other. |
| 06:45:11 | andersee | I seem to recall adding a thin set of macro wrappers.... |
| 06:45:24 | jacques | andersee: yeah - that's what I ened |
| 06:45:26 | jacques | need |
| 06:45:53 | jacques | andersee: do you think they are available anywhere? |
| 06:47:15 | andersee | looking... |
| 06:47:54 | andersee | I seem to recall sifting through the " |
| 06:48:01 | andersee | I seem to recall sifting through the "ae" editor source at the time... |
| 06:48:42 | andersee | apt-get'ing the source now |
| 06:49:44 | jacques | andersee: ah, OK. I can do that |
| 06:50:05 | jacques | andersee: I just thought I was missing something - and it does say "fully emulates" :-) |
| 06:50:25 | andersee | Yeah, ae was originaly for ncurses, and has some macros wrapping slang. |
| 06:50:32 | Russ | Morn: any luck? |
| 06:50:38 | andersee | Perhaps I should change the wording... |
| 06:51:11 | andersee | heh. |
| 06:51:28 | andersee | I just merged in tuxphone into the buildroot. Works too. :) |
| 06:51:48 | Russ | coo |
| 06:51:50 | Morn | andersee I was workin gon that! |
| 06:51:55 | Russ | ooh, the ae editor |
| 06:51:58 | andersee | heh |
| 06:52:03 | Russ | I have and use that |
| 06:52:09 | Russ | bitch to compile though |
| 06:52:11 | andersee | Morn: beat you too it. |
| 06:54:19 | jacques | i gotta have my top |
| 06:56:32 | andersee | heh |
| 06:57:51 | andersee | I'm pretty sure the source to ae will show you what is needed. If you can make it nice and simple, then I expect I could make the result available for others. |
| 07:24:40 | BZFlag | picogui and lrzsz rebuild on "rm -rf root;make" |
| 07:25:20 | BZFlag | and tinylogin does not recopy. |
| 07:29:07 | BZFlag | hmm... tinylogin builds in tinylogin, so it date checks the directory |
| 07:29:56 | felix | hi i'm testing linux... do you receive me ? |
| 07:30:49 | felix | halloooo |
| 07:32:09 | Morn | not so loud |
| 07:32:13 | Morn | we're trying to sleep |
| 07:32:22 | felix | sorry |
| 07:34:10 | andersee | BZFlag: add tinylogin to the phony list |
| 07:34:29 | BZFlag | phony.. that was it. I was thinking virtual. |
| 07:43:29 | BZFlag | andersee: did you add a tuxphone directory? |
| 07:43:39 | BZFlag | cvs up -PdA walks that dir |
| 07:44:40 | BZFlag | hmmm... not in cvs. |
| 07:45:39 | BZFlag | wierd. I removed it from my CVS/Entries |
| 07:45:40 | andersee | BZFlag: if it is missing, I do a cvs co |
| 07:46:08 | BZFlag | yeah but how does it get into CVS/Entries? that should not happen, should it? |
| 07:46:55 | BZFlag | wierd, didn't happen the second time. |
| 07:47:15 | andersee | no idea... |
| 07:47:21 | andersee | didn't happen to me... |
| 07:47:53 | BZFlag | I nuked the entry and redid the make and it was fine. odd. |
| 07:48:09 | BZFlag | course I also added it to the phony list. ;-) |
| 07:49:25 | BZFlag | added a memdumper to blob. ;-) |
| 07:53:41 | jacques | andersee: do you happen to know where I can get the source for ae ? I cant find it anywhere |
| 07:55:13 | jacques | andersee: it's not the same thing as aee is it? |
| 07:57:38 | andersee | Check out the Debian potato distro, under editors. |
| 07:57:40 | andersee | http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/ae.html |
| 07:58:00 | andersee | links to source + patches at the bottom of the page |
| 07:58:06 | jacques | thankjs |
| 07:58:19 | andersee | I think the slangification may be in the patches.... |
| 08:04:03 | BZFlag | wonders if ae will die now that bb has vi |
| 08:06:05 | andersee | Well, the boot floppies now use nano -- which also sucks far less then ae |
| 08:06:24 | BZFlag | why not ae? they are using newer bb right? |
| 08:06:30 | BZFlag | er why not vi... |
| 08:06:38 | andersee | I had vi in there for a while, but the ppc folk ran out of space, and I had to axe it |
| 08:06:55 | BZFlag | and then add nano? |
| 08:06:56 | andersee | Some people don't appriecieate the finer things in life... |
| 08:07:18 | jacques | like emacs |
| 08:07:19 | BZFlag | or nano goes on another disk? |
| 08:07:28 | andersee | nano-tiny |
| 08:07:46 | andersee | Its part of rescue.bin |
| 08:08:11 | BZFlag | and that's still smaller than nuking nano-tiny and adding vi to bb ? |
| 08:08:57 | andersee | nonono. bb vi is much smaller. |
| 08:09:22 | andersee | politics... vi bad. nano good it seems. |
| 08:09:26 | andersee | grumbles |
| 08:09:29 | jacques | emacs best |
| 08:09:35 | jacques | ducks. |
| 08:09:43 | andersee | thwaps jacques with a soggy herring |
| 08:11:21 | andersee | BZFlag: btw, I'm leaving in the morning -- gone for a week |
| 08:12:34 | BZFlag | andersee: avoid the politics. vi small, nano-tiny large. |
| 08:13:38 | BZFlag | picogui does not start. pgserver bombs if I try to start it. anyone? |
| 08:14:31 | BZFlag | andersee: on email? |
| 08:14:45 | BZFlag | or perhaps a cell phone? ;-) |
| 08:15:34 | andersee | BZFlag: heh. I hope to have email... |
| 08:15:45 | BZFlag | I expect to be out for a week or so shortly. Last scheduled tux shipment will go out tuesday. |
| 08:15:55 | andersee | BZFlag: I just setup webmail.codepoet.org -- in case I can at least get to a browser |
| 08:16:05 | BZFlag | so get your orders in now. ;-) |
| 08:16:07 | andersee | Cool. |
| 08:16:18 | BZFlag | imp/horde? |
| 08:16:29 | andersee | BTW, now that the phone daemon is in, I think a new set of binaries is in order... |
| 08:16:36 | andersee | squirrelmail |
| 08:16:41 | andersee | Works great |
| 08:16:48 | andersee | php based |
| 08:16:59 | andersee | php + imap/localhost based |
| 08:17:08 | jacques | andersee: is there any termcap stuff in uClibc? |
| 08:17:09 | BZFlag | I agree. I was hoping someone would fix the ctrl+- and alt+- support. |
| 08:17:15 | BZFlag | whacks Russ ;-) |
| 08:17:30 | BZFlag | andersee: nice. |
| 08:18:21 | BZFlag | blob> dump 0xa0000000 |
| 08:18:21 | BZFlag | a0000000: 0334b21f c71c703f ffc71c71 ffffffff ..4.?p..q....... |
| 08:18:22 | BZFlag | a0000010: fff84458 99775a65 10851085 00000000 XD..eZw......... |
| 08:18:37 | BZFlag | etc |
| 08:18:51 | andersee | BZFlag: you added a _second_ phony target? There was already one at the end of the Makefile |
| 08:19:02 | BZFlag | ugh. I missed it I guess. |
| 08:19:52 | jacques | so ncurses has tputs() but slang does not.... confused |
| 08:20:22 | BZFlag | andersee: fixed. |
| 08:23:18 | andersee | k |
| 08:23:34 | BZFlag | gotta love those happy tones. ;-) |
| 08:24:13 | andersee | heh |
| 08:24:17 | andersee | I'm liking it. |
| 08:24:23 | BZFlag | k, so to gui or not to gui on the next image upload? |
| 08:24:37 | andersee | I just removed the other phone I had in my office. No need... |
| 08:24:43 | BZFlag | nice. |
| 08:25:00 | BZFlag | viewml still does not web surf, right? |
| 08:25:01 | andersee | Now I can convert my wife's phone off inferno |
| 08:26:54 | andersee | well, night |
| 08:26:58 | andersee | gotta finish packing |
| 08:27:19 | BZFlag | night. should I just upload on gui-less image set now then? |
| 08:27:32 | BZFlag | I think I will. |
| 08:30:25 | andersee | sure |
| 08:30:33 | andersee | ngiht |
| 08:47:16 | Squart | anybody awake? |
| 08:49:00 | BZFlag | just ask yer question. ;-) |
| 08:50:19 | Squart | ;) Do you know something about the new iptables in kernel 2.4.x |
| 08:50:37 | BZFlag | just ask yer question. ;-) |
| 08:51:29 | Squart | if I insmod ip_tables then I get 'unresolved symbol: nr_register_sockopt' |
| 08:51:41 | Squart | oeps... |
| 08:51:49 | Squart | if I insmod ip_tables then I get 'unresolved symbol: nf_register_sockopt' |
| 08:52:01 | Squart | thats what I ment to say... |
| 08:52:16 | BZFlag | did you depmod -a ? |
| 08:53:05 | Squart | hmm it does give me some unresolved symbols |
| 08:53:30 | BZFlag | and modprobe ip_tables does what? |
| 08:54:03 | Squart | the same unresolved's |
| 08:54:28 | Squart | what am I missing here? |
| 08:56:39 | Squart | if I 'insmod ipip' or 'insmod ip_gre' I get unresolveds on nf_hooks and nf_hooks_slow |
| 08:57:58 | BZFlag | sounds like either an incomplete kernel build or an incomplete modules install. |
| 08:57:58 | BZFlag | ie: make modules ; make modules_install |
| 08:57:58 | BZFlag | you may need to wipe the old modules out first if you have turned things off in the kernel config. |
| 08:58:25 | BZFlag | an if you modprobe them? |
| 08:59:54 | Squart | hmmm I tried a few compiles... same over and over. I didn't wipe the old modules though.. but I only turned thing on AFAIK |
| 09:02:09 | Squart | does kernel.org have an irc server? or where do these guys hang out? |
| 09:02:18 | BZFlag | rm /lib/modules/<kernel ver>/ EXCEPT for pcmcia if installed. then make modules_install again. |
| 09:02:30 | BZFlag | try #kernelnewbies |
| 09:03:24 | Squart | Ok, I am going to try your suggestion. I applied some iptables pathes on the kernel as well.. |
| 09:03:54 | BZFlag | which iptables patches? |
| 09:03:57 | Squart | BTW I am going to get a Tux soon, I can't wait! |
| 09:04:20 | BZFlag | order before monday night if you want it before january. |
| 09:04:39 | Squart | the one that came with the iptables-1.2.4 packages |
| 09:05:38 | Squart | Yeah I know, but I asked a guy in Belgium if he could send me one. He knows a shop where they sell them as well. I live in Holland |
| 09:05:46 | BZFlag | Hmm... I'm running 2.4.12 at present and iptables-1.2.4 but I did not apply any iptables patches. |
| 09:06:10 | Squart | there were only 2 minor pathes |
| 09:06:26 | BZFlag | a shop where they sell tux's? I do not know of any other tux's anywhere in the world. |
| 09:06:47 | BZFlag | I've shipped to holland before. |
| 09:07:09 | Squart | Me neighter... but he said so on the mailing list |
| 09:07:23 | BZFlag | hmm |
| 09:07:29 | Squart | ;) |
| 09:09:33 | Squart | anyway, if he didn't mail me. I'll order one from you, although I haven't figured out my budget for this month... |
| 09:10:45 | BZFlag | I'd be _very_ interested to learn about any other tux's |
| 09:11:02 | BZFlag | There were supposed to be 4000 of them, and I only had 1200 |
| 09:11:08 | BZFlag | so there must be more someplace. |
| 09:11:38 | BZFlag | but nobody I've talked to knows where they went. |
| 09:12:23 | Squart | interesting |
| 09:12:44 | Squart | you got them from Mexico am I correct? |
| 09:14:47 | Squart | alrighty.. I am going down for a reboot.. c you later |
| 09:34:55 | Squart_tux | BZFlag: still no luck with ip_tables. I am trying #kernelnewbies but they don't tell me anything new either |
| 09:36:13 | Squart_tux | maybe I should try a clean build... |
| 09:43:23 | GoRK | KERNEL! |
| 10:16:06 | jacques | hi GoRK |
| 10:35:39 | GoRK | death to ALSA |
| 10:36:04 | scanline | hehe |
| 10:36:31 | GoRK | i hate alsa so much . ugh! |
| 10:37:13 | GoRK | i mean.. *if* you can even figure out how to install it, then there is the problem of all the brokenness of it |
| 10:37:53 | scanline | I'm happy with the emu10k1 driver :) |
| 10:38:08 | GoRK | hehe i have a teeny bit of code in that |
| 10:38:17 | scanline | yep, you mentioned that |
| 10:38:20 | GoRK | emu10k1_midi_poll! |
| 10:39:18 | GoRK | well i gotta sleep. nite |
| 10:39:42 | scanline | good night |
| 10:42:31 | jacques | looks nauseated. |
| 10:43:35 | GoRK | hey jacques, before i go, if you can email me instructions on how to build tinyx (do you have a diff or something? -- i dont even know where to get it :) -- or if you can write a makefile.tinyx for the buildroot-tux stuff, I will write your ts driver! |
| 10:44:40 | jacques | GoRK: I'm putting something together but it's not too somple |
| 10:44:56 | jacques | GoRK: first step is to get the xfree source |
| 10:45:13 | GoRK | x-in-flash seems to be *highly* anticipated. :) |
| 10:45:20 | GoRK | the big x-free source? |
| 10:45:44 | jacques | GoRK: yes - believe me I am so pissed at xfree |
| 10:46:06 | jacques | GoRK: AFAICT there is no way to get just a little bit of the source and have it compile |
| 10:46:13 | jacques | GoRK: it's a gigantic mess |
| 10:46:38 | jacques | GoRK: I'm going to write up a little document |
| 10:46:39 | GoRK | jacques: well tinyx/smallx is rather unique last i remember. i mean it will run on a 386 with 4mb of ram :) |
| 10:47:02 | GoRK | of course it has the side benefit of being rather smallish |
| 10:47:10 | GoRK | disk-space-wise |
| 10:47:18 | jacques | GoRK: can you believe it - the most knowledgeable ppl on #xfree had never heard of it |
| 10:47:41 | jacques | GoRK: I am dealing with code that's compiled by only a hndful of ppl in the world |
| 10:47:50 | GoRK | i can believe it. they're probably all into DRI and RENDER and all that garbage |
| 10:48:09 | GoRK | I am into code that is compiled by 1 :) |
| 10:48:28 | jacques | GoRK: I emailed keithp because the code was not compiling and he said "yes it's kinda a mess right now - I just comitted a patch to cvs, it may not work but at least it's better than what's there now" |
| 10:49:29 | jacques | GoRK: anyway, I'm working on documenting my procedure |
| 10:49:34 | GoRK | hrm well if we can get something into buildroot-tux that compiles for people, they'll be happy :) |
| 10:50:21 | jacques | GoRK: yeah but are they going to want to download 60MB of compressed source to make a 700kB binary and 1MB of libs? |
| 10:51:53 | jacques | it just pisses me off every time i start getting into the xfree build priocess |
| 10:51:58 | GoRK | jacques: um they download 26MB to make a kernel, so i dont really see that it's an issue. the folks here like to compile from source :) |
| 10:52:27 | jacques | GoRK: yeah |
| 10:52:37 | jacques | i agree with that |
| 10:52:44 | jacques | just dont expect it to be pretty |
| 10:56:21 | | OK, jacques. |
| 10:56:21 | jacques | ibot: xfree source is at http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/ |
| 11:02:09 | jacques | going through the xfree source reminds me why ppl write their own gui's |
| 13:21:42 | MicroChip32 | woohoo! its SNOWING! |
| 13:23:57 | MicroChip32 | bah! but the forcast says it'll be short lived *sigh* |
| 13:27:15 | SteveD | sunshine over here |
| 13:50:07 | MicroChip32 | SteveD: keep it, and send any snow ya got over this way |
| 16:18:34 | MicroChip32 | tosses a frag grenade into the room to see if anyone is alive |
| 16:18:48 | rand | is blown apart |
| 16:19:02 | MicroChip32 | hehehe well someone ~was~ alive =) |
| 16:19:16 | Morn | ducks. |
| 16:19:24 | MicroChip32 | *quack* |
| 16:19:32 | MicroChip32 | g'MORNin morn |
| 16:19:44 | Morn | wonders if MicroChip32 wants to play duck duck goose |
| 16:19:55 | MicroChip32 | declines comment ;) |
| 16:21:20 | Morn | my roommate wants to go tree shoping today |
| 16:21:29 | Morn | thinks Christmas trees are silly. |
| 16:21:35 | MicroChip32 | lol |
| 16:21:58 | MicroChip32 | im considering going out and rolling a snowball or two from our first snowfall before it vanishes |
| 16:22:03 | rand | yeah killing trees for Christmas - what folly |
| 16:24:39 | Morn | I guess it's because when I grew up we couldn't afford a tree... |
| 16:24:51 | Morn | I just never thought it was necessary |
| 16:25:58 | rand | I remember a Christmas at my Dad's when I was young, in Pennsylvia with snow outside |
| 16:26:05 | rand | we had a tree |
| 16:26:06 | Morn | where in PA |
| 16:26:11 | rand | Penn State |
| 16:26:12 | Morn | I grew up in PA dutch country |
| 16:26:26 | rand | I only visited, never really lived there |
| 16:26:48 | rand | except part of one summer |
| 16:27:12 | rand | I think it's a nice place to live |
| 16:27:27 | rand | I loved the snow, fireflys, and greenery |
| 16:27:33 | Morn | it is, but the Amish are scary :-) |
| 16:27:44 | rand | :) |
| 16:27:46 | MicroChip32 | ok guys, the first snow here ... http://home.mctech.org/pub/firstsnow.JPG |
| 16:28:36 | rand | hehe getting 1KB/s from mctech.org |
| 16:28:51 | MicroChip32 | its taken thru the screen window so dont mind the quality |
| 16:28:57 | MicroChip32 | rand, its on dialup here beside me |
| 16:29:03 | rand | :) |
| 16:29:08 | MicroChip32 | and youre prolly sharing bandwidth with other[s] |
| 16:30:20 | rand | MicroChip32: is that picture through a screen door or something? |
| 16:31:04 | MicroChip32 | rand, screen window, i just replaced it with a better one, moved the camera back so it could focus THRU the screen instead of on it |
| 16:32:00 | rand | it would look better if you went outside ;) |
| 16:32:29 | MicroChip32 | most certainly, i could get lots of good pics outside .... if my vidcam battery worked |
| 16:32:45 | rand | oh vidcam...that explains it hehe |
| 16:33:16 | rand | i got a really cheap camera ($40) that does 640x480 ... |
| 16:33:42 | MicroChip32 | right now its hooked directly to my vidcap card so im getting direct digital video =) |
| 16:34:05 | MicroChip32 | what i wanna do is get a small transmitter to attach to the camera and a small receiver to hook to the pc |
| 16:34:14 | MicroChip32 | then i dont gotta fuss with a tape |
| 16:34:55 | MicroChip32 | rand: well if i get that desparate i can take 640/480s with my palm3x ;) |
| 16:35:30 | rand | you palm3x has a camera? |
| 16:35:33 | rand | are |
| 16:35:47 | MicroChip32 | yep, pretty cool too |
| 16:36:31 | MicroChip32 | rather picky about lighting and focus, but otherwise pretty good |
| 16:36:57 | rand | same with my cheapy |
| 16:37:22 | MicroChip32 | thats how it is with ccd cams |
| 16:39:56 | MicroChip32 | ok im gonna go out and see if i can roll a snowball before it goes away. (sorta tradition <G>) |
| 16:40:34 | MicroChip32 | bbl |
| 16:41:28 | rand | it was nearly 80 degrees here yesterday |
| 16:41:40 | rand | i wish it would snow ;) |
| 16:41:54 | rand | then I could roll some snowballs too :) |
| 16:57:08 | MicroChip32 | ahhhhhhh beautifly packing snow. =) |
| 18:09:47 | MicroChip32 | wonders where everyone is hiding ... |
| 18:09:49 | MicroChip32 | closes and locks all the windows and tosses a stink bomb into the channel before sneaking out and locking the door. |
| 20:17:07 | SteveD | hi - who maintains buildroot? its trying to get busybox.tar.gz from busybox.lineo.com and now busybox.net needs to be used |
| 20:28:34 | AeroSpace | SteveD: the powers that be know about it |
| 20:29:12 | SteveD | also - why does cvs co tuxphone want to log in to cvs as timriker, and what's the right password? |
| 20:29:51 | AeroSpace | SteveD: That I don't know. I read the info on wikki and didn't have any problems. |
| 20:30:05 | AeroSpace | SteveD: try anonymous? |
| 20:34:17 | SteveD | nope - not enter, not anonymous. I'll look into it later |
| 22:34:21 | GPSFan | BZFlag: nice work on the rev .5 stuff, now my phone dials with touchtones! The kernel still needs Russ's patch to make the ctl/alt +/- Screen stuff work. I applied the patch he posted yesterday to my 2.4.16 tux2 kernel and those functions worked fine. I flashed the .5 kernel this am and those functions didn't work anymore. |
| 22:37:25 | AeroSpace | I have both my tuxscreens using ppp over the serial port. It worked at 115200, but not a 230400 I'm not sure which end had the problem. |
| 22:56:48 | Russ | Morn? |
| 22:57:53 | Morn | yes? |
| 22:58:23 | Russ | did you try that stuff? |
| 22:58:43 | Morn | I'm sorry not yet... I got busy last night and didn't get to do it |
| 22:59:19 | Russ | ah |
| 23:03:09 | Morn | Russ: do you know solaris well? |
| 23:10:02 | Russ | never touched it |
| 23:10:07 | Morn | 'k |
| 23:10:19 | Russ | little before my time I think |
| 23:11:37 | Morn | I have an ultra sparc with Solaris 8 on it |
| 23:11:44 | Morn | And I have 2 copies of Gnome installed |
| 23:11:50 | Morn | one from Sun and one from Ximian |
| 23:12:20 | Russ | I'd just put debian on 'em |
| 23:12:37 | Morn | linux doesn't run as well on a high end sparc as solaris does |
| 23:12:49 | Morn | the gcc compiler is really lame at 64bit sparc code |
| 23:13:03 | Morn | at this point only the kernel is 64bit the userland is all 32bit |
| 23:14:21 | Morn | considers rm -rf /opt/gnome |
| 23:14:31 | Morn | but that would mess up the pkg database |
| 23:27:31 | SteveD | hi all - quick question if I may |
| 23:28:12 | SteveD | I grabbed the new buildroot off tuxscreen.net, but it built blob-2.0.4; I see the precompiled one is blob-2.0.5-pre2; what gives? |
| 23:33:08 | SteveD | just got buildroot out of cvs.tuxscreen.net and that uses blob-2.0.4 too |
| 23:44:29 | SteveD | hi all |
| 23:44:41 | MicroChip32 | hmmmmm *looks around at all the zombies* either everyone is dead, or everyone is busy coding new geek stuff into the tux |
| 23:44:51 | SteveD | where do I find source + patches to gather blob-2.0.5-pre2-timr sources? |
| 23:45:09 | SteveD | buildroot-tux, whether in download or cvs, seems to build 2.0.4 |
