| 00:01:23 | | tangent was last seen on #intimate 1 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: Disconnect : Well it'd be really good if I could debug my network settings [Thu Nov 29 21:43:17 2001] |
| 00:01:23 | BZFlag | ibot: seen tangent |
| 00:02:52 | jacques_gone | hi BZFlag |
| 00:03:01 | jacques | hi ibot |
| 00:03:35 | | jacques: San Jose, San Jose International Airport, CA, United States; (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 05:53 PM EST; Dew Point: 39.0 F (3.9 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.05 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Relative Humidity: 50%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 57.0 F (13.9 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: Variable at 5 MPH (5 KT) |
| 00:03:35 | jacques | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 00:04:01 | jacques | BZFlag: stephane was very impresses by your quick email response this morning |
| 00:04:05 | jacques | :-D |
| 00:04:39 | | pattieja: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 00:04:39 | pattieja | ibot: weather cgi |
| 00:04:55 | | pattieja: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 00:04:55 | pattieja | ibot: weather stls |
| 00:05:08 | jacques | pattieja: you broke it |
| 00:05:12 | pattieja | hehe |
| 00:05:19 | | No luck, jacques |
| 00:05:19 | jacques | ibot: insult pattieja |
| 00:05:20 | | pattieja: i'm not following you... |
| 00:05:20 | pattieja | ibot: please don't |
| 00:05:25 | pattieja | woohoo! |
| 00:05:26 | pattieja | hehe |
| 00:05:36 | | jacques: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:05:36 | jacques | ibot: what's wrong with you? |
| 00:05:37 | | :) |
| 00:05:37 | pattieja | ibot: botsnack |
| 00:05:42 | | thanks pattieja :) |
| 00:05:42 | pattieja | ibot: botsnack |
| 00:05:46 | | pattieja is nothing but a rude-snouted stack of fen-sucked poop. |
| 00:05:46 | jacques | ibot: insult pattieja |
| 00:05:59 | pattieja | whaaaatt!??? |
| 00:06:18 | jacques | hee |
| 00:06:36 | jacques | he's fickle |
| 00:07:46 | | jacques: what? |
| 00:07:46 | jacques | ibot: nickometer |
| 00:07:50 | | pattieja: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 00:07:50 | pattieja | ibot: weather stlmo |
| 00:07:51 | | 'jacques' is 0% lame, jacques |
| 00:07:51 | jacques | ibot: nickometer jacques |
| 00:08:03 | | pattieja: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 00:08:03 | pattieja | ibot: weather stlm |
| 00:08:10 | pattieja | hmmm. |
| 00:08:53 | | jacques: Houston, Houston Hobby Airport, TX, United States; (KHOU) 29-38-15N 095-16-57W 36M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 05:53 PM EST; Dew Point: 54.0 F (12.2 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.06 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Relative Humidity: 77%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 61.0 F (16.1 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the ESE (120 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT) |
| 00:08:53 | jacques | ibot: weather khou |
| 00:09:01 | | jacques: San Francisco, San Francisco International Airport, CA, United States; (KSFO) 37-37-11N 122-21-53W 26M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 06:56 PM EST; Dew Point: 46.0 F (7.8 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.05 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.00 inches (0.1 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 69%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 55.9 F (13.3 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the SE (140 degrees) at 5 MPH (5 KT) |
| 00:09:01 | jacques | ibot: weather ksfo |
| 00:15:29 | | Russ|werk: Phoenix, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, AZ, United States; (KPHX) 33-26-03N 112-03-04W 336M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 06:56 PM EST; Dew Point: 44.1 F (6.7 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.99 in. Hg (1015 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.00 inches (0.1 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 50%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 63.0 F (17.2 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: Calm |
| 00:15:29 | Russ|werk | ibot: weather kphx |
| 00:15:47 | Russ|werk | toasty |
| 00:17:16 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh, fun with ibots... |
| 00:18:35 | | CosmicPenguin: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake City International Airport, UT, United States; (KSLC) 40-46-41N 111-58-10W 1286M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 06:56 PM EST; Dew Point: 21.9 F (-5.6 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.02 in. Hg (1016 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.02 inches (0.6 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 71%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 30.0 F (-1.1 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: 5 inches of snow on ground; Wind: Calm |
| 00:18:35 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: weather kslc |
| 00:18:53 | CosmicPenguin | 5 inches of snow.... :) |
| 00:30:45 | Morn | is back (gone 00:59:36) |
| 00:31:48 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, buh byte |
| 00:32:35 | | GoRK: Amarillo, Amarillo International Airport, TX, United States; (KAMA) 35-13-12N 101-43-02W 1093M; last updated: Nov 30, 2001 06:53 PM EST; Dew Point: 21.9 F (-5.6 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.95 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.07 inches (2.5 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 32%; Sky conditions: clear; Temperature: 50.0 F (10.0 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: 5 inches of snow on ground; Wind: from the W (260 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT) |
| 00:32:35 | GoRK | ibot weather kama |
| 00:39:55 | BZFlag | jacques: stefan the boogie admin? |
| 00:40:10 | BZFlag | lags more on irc, than email. |
| 00:40:46 | Morn | Tim: I'll see what I can do to provide that mirror... I've just been having some funky issues with access the sourceforge stuff |
| 00:43:02 | mgoldiescot | fish |
| 00:43:48 | mgoldiescot | quit |
| 00:52:44 | Morn | Anyone here build the 2.0.4 version of the blob? |
| 01:10:26 | Russ | what about it? |
| 01:10:39 | Morn | in clock.c __REG is not defined |
| 01:10:57 | Russ | do you have configured kernel sources you are pointing it at? |
| 01:11:06 | Morn | yes |
| 01:11:29 | | kernel is in /dev/mtdblock2 or /boot (fam 0.5). To build one, see http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Building%20a%20new%20kernel |
| 01:11:29 | Russ | what kernel? |
| 01:11:45 | Russ | dammit ibot |
| 01:11:54 | Morn | hold on, I think the tool chain I'm using has an old kernel headers |
| 01:12:01 | Russ | er...no |
| 01:12:14 | Russ | when you do ./configure, you tell it which headers to use |
| 01:12:26 | Russ | hey andersee |
| 01:13:04 | andersee | hey |
| 01:13:08 | Morn | no that's fine |
| 01:14:15 | Morn | ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-linux-prefix=/home/julie/buildroot-tux/linux |
| 01:14:24 | Russ | it doesn't care about the kernel headers in your toolchain |
| 01:14:47 | Russ | I think ti might be that blob cvs has fixes for newer kernels |
| 01:14:56 | Russ | blob.sf.net |
| 01:15:53 | Morn | ok, thanks |
| 01:17:26 | GoRK | andersee: did you notice i updated buildroot-tux to the new kernel? does blob have a problem with this? |
| 01:17:49 | GoRK | i got a clean build but maybe im just a freak |
| 01:18:38 | andersee | GoRK: Hmm. Nice to have the new kernel in place. Havn't looked at blob. |
| 01:18:49 | andersee | GoRK: It something wrong with it? |
| 01:19:08 | Morn | I'm getting __REG not defined when I compile (in clock.c) |
| 01:19:12 | GoRK | andersee: morn was saying something was not liking it? |
| 01:19:31 | GoRK | andersee: i also am getting picogui integrated with buildroot. it's coming along nicely |
| 01:19:50 | andersee | Ahh. Sounds like a header file changed somewhere. Perhaps blob is evil and directly used kernel headers? |
| 01:20:40 | GoRK | well it's likely that blob would be allowed to use kernel headers since it boots the kernel :) |
| 01:20:59 | andersee | :) |
| 01:21:32 | Morn | with the 2.0.5-pre1 of blob I get a similar error |
| 01:21:41 | Morn | led.c:70: warning: implicit declaration of function `__REG' |
| 01:21:47 | Morn | this causes more trouble later on |
| 01:23:01 | Russ | what cross compiler are you using? |
| 01:23:14 | Morn | arm-v4l-linux-gcc |
| 01:23:15 | andersee | Hmm |
| 01:23:18 | andersee | /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm/arch-sa1100/hardware.h:# define __REG(x) (*((volatile u32 *)io_p2v(x))) |
| 01:23:19 | Russ | ? |
| 01:23:25 | Russ | where's that from? |
| 01:23:34 | Russ | (the arm-v4l-linux-gcc) |
| 01:23:42 | Morn | it was in the beta dir on ftp://handhelds.org |
| 01:24:17 | GoRK | i use the emdebian cross tools and havent ever had a problem |
| 01:24:29 | Morn | gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) |
| 01:24:41 | Morn | GoRK: where did you get that? |
| 01:24:45 | Russ | oh...a handhelds.org toolchain |
| 01:24:47 | andersee | So pulling in #include <asm/hardware.h> should pull it in |
| 01:24:48 | GoRK | www.emdebian.org |
| 01:24:56 | Russ | for some reason, their toolchains suck |
| 01:24:56 | Morn | andersee: let me try that |
| 01:25:19 | Russ | embian is good, as well as the arm.linux.org.uk toolchain |
| 01:25:26 | Russ | er, emdebian |
| 01:26:12 | Russ | the ipaq people are strange... |
| 01:27:42 | Morn | I'll get the other toolchait |
| 01:27:52 | Morn | adding asm/hardware.h caused a lot of parse errors |
| 01:28:57 | GoRK | the only weird toolchain ive had problems with is my own custom sh4 one that i had to build myself.. since im not using it to compile anything having to do with linux :) |
| 01:30:22 | Russ | Morn: yah, just get the emdebian one then |
| 01:30:47 | Russ | notices a "Mom" when attepmting to autocomplete "Morn" |
| 01:32:42 | Morn | I'm not having a good night |
| 01:32:45 | Morn | maybe I should go to bed |
| 01:32:56 | Morn | the rpms I got for the embedian tools don't want to install |
| 01:33:22 | Morn | error: unpacking of archive failed on file \@H\@el/t9: cpio: Archive file not in header |
| 01:38:21 | Morn | why can't they just have a .tar.gz |
| 01:39:24 | andersee | Morn: Is this what you are seeing? |
| 01:39:26 | andersee | arm-linux-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -I../include -O2 -I/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/linux/include -Wall -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm1100 -fomit-frame-pointer -mapcs-32 -nostdinc -c clock.c |
| 01:39:26 | andersee | clock.c:130: warning: #warning "FIXME: GetHexValue() returns NULL after the fifth call..." |
| 01:39:26 | andersee | clock.c: In function `SetClock': |
| 01:39:27 | andersee | clock.c:146: warning: implicit declaration of function `__REG' |
| 01:39:27 | andersee | clock.c:146: invalid lvalue in assignment |
| 01:39:29 | andersee | clock.c:147: invalid lvalue in assignment |
| 01:39:31 | andersee | clock.c:148: invalid lvalue in assignment |
| 01:39:33 | andersee | clock.c:149: invalid lvalue in assignment |
| 01:39:35 | andersee | clock.c:150: invalid lvalue in assignment |
| 01:39:37 | andersee | make[2]: *** [clock.o] Error 1 |
| 01:39:39 | andersee | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/blob-2.0.4/src' |
| 01:39:41 | andersee | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 01:39:43 | andersee | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/blob-2.0.4' |
| 01:39:46 | andersee | + cp /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/blob-2.0.4/src/blob /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/tuxscreen-blob |
| 01:39:48 | andersee | cp: cannot stat `/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/blob-2.0.4/src/blob': No such file or directory |
| 01:39:49 | Morn | andersee: yes |
| 01:39:50 | andersee | make: *** [bootloader] Error 1 |
| 01:40:58 | andersee | reprodice it here |
| 01:41:01 | andersee | err |
| 01:41:05 | andersee | reproduced that is |
| 01:41:17 | Morn | so I'm not nuts |
| 01:41:20 | andersee | I did a 'make distclean' and then a 'make' |
| 01:41:33 | andersee | likes his speedy new athlon |
| 01:41:52 | Morn | andersee: I've got a dual athlong here (2 1.4Ghz cpus) |
| 01:41:56 | GoRK | hmm so i guess blob does have issues with the new kenrel? |
| 01:42:08 | andersee | I am using the emdebian toolchain on debian unstable |
| 01:42:09 | Morn | Why do I keep putting a g at the end of athlon |
| 01:42:22 | GoRK | at least you dont type 'athalon' |
| 01:42:30 | GoRK | assalon |
| 01:42:42 | GoRK | i bet that's what intel folks call it |
| 01:43:45 | Morn | this new box I built really moves... |
| 01:43:51 | Morn | 2 gig of ram too |
| 01:44:57 | Morn | brb, I need caffine |
| 01:52:35 | andersee | Sounds nice. |
| 01:52:54 | Morn | yeah, I put a nice video and sound card in and got a dvd |
| 01:53:05 | Morn | I can make a divx of a dvd in better than real time |
| 01:53:29 | andersee | I like my new motherboard/CPU -- but it sure puts out heat. I'm in no danger of freezing this winter |
| 01:54:08 | Morn | I put a 500watt power supply in this thing |
| 01:55:27 | Russ | Morn: I would say I think you are compensating for something...but.... |
| 01:55:52 | Morn | Maybe it's because I'm just a fat geeky girl who can't get a date... |
| 01:56:15 | Russ | tracey chapman? |
| 01:56:32 | Morn | tracy chapman is a singer... I like... |
| 01:56:37 | Morn | where did you get that? |
| 01:56:46 | Russ | google |
| 01:56:58 | Morn | oh, I ran her list for a while... |
| 01:57:02 | Morn | trying to start it up again |
| 01:57:13 | Morn | I also ran Joan Baez's |
| 01:57:30 | Morn | I'm a big folk fan |
| 02:01:57 | andersee | Morn: Put this stuff into blob-2.0.4/include/sa1100.h |
| 02:02:03 | andersee | #include "types.h" |
| 02:02:03 | andersee | #define VIO_BASE 0xf8000000 /* virtual start of IO space */ |
| 02:02:03 | andersee | #define VIO_SHIFT 3 /* x = IO space shrink power */ |
| 02:02:03 | andersee | #define PIO_START 0x80000000 /* physical start of IO space */ |
| 02:02:03 | andersee | # define __REG(x) (*((volatile u32 *)io_p2v(x))) |
| 02:02:04 | andersee | #define io_p2v( x ) \ |
| 02:02:06 | andersee | ( (((x)&0x00ffffff) | (((x)&0x30000000)>>VIO_SHIFT)) + VIO_BASE ) |
| 02:02:08 | andersee | #define io_v2p( x ) \ |
| 02:02:09 | andersee | ( (((x)&0x00ffffff) | (((x)&(0x30000000>>VIO_SHIFT))<<VIO_SHIFT)) + PIO_START ) |
| 02:02:14 | andersee | Then it will compile |
| 02:02:23 | Morn | ok, let me try that |
| 02:02:57 | GoRK | Morn: i wouldnt suggest testing the result of your blob compile without JTAG, though |
| 02:03:00 | GoRK | :) |
| 02:03:30 | andersee | indeed. |
| 02:07:37 | Morn | well it compiled :-) |
| 02:07:41 | Morn | I won't try it though |
| 02:07:48 | andersee | heh |
| 02:07:49 | Morn | I'd like to get a jtag though |
| 02:07:55 | andersee | you're welcome |
| 02:08:04 | Morn | thanks |
| 02:08:20 | Morn | I'd just like to get picogui running tonight |
| 02:08:25 | Morn | microwindows would be great |
| 02:08:33 | Morn | but I don't think it's gonna happen |
| 02:10:42 | GoRK | Morn: I just committed a couple of buildroot-tux picogui changes. it should build the picogui server and the clients both now... it currently does not build the calibration app (still need to change it for the new ts interface) or set picogui up to start on boot |
| 02:11:04 | GoRK | cvs up in your buildroot-tux to grab the new stuff |
| 02:11:09 | Morn | GoRK: cool |
| 02:11:39 | GoRK | indedentally, it's pretty much totally untested on the actual device! im about to do that though |
| 02:11:49 | Morn | oh boy |
| 02:12:22 | Morn | I have a spare linksys 10/100 ethernet card, any chance of getting that to work with the tuxscreen? |
| 02:12:33 | GoRK | what model? |
| 02:12:43 | Morn | hmmm, let me check |
| 02:12:52 | andersee | I just commited the blob fix, and bumped up the mtd snapshot to one that exits upstream |
| 02:13:07 | andersee | Anyways, everything now compiles for me |
| 02:14:26 | Morn | PCMPC100 is the ethernet card |
| 02:16:51 | Morn | witht he 2.4.7 kernel when I plug in the card I get lights, but when I plug in the ethernet cable the link light goes out |
| 02:17:13 | GoRK | what does cardctl ident say about the card? |
| 02:18:43 | Morn | no product info available |
| 02:18:55 | GoRK | it probably doesnt like 3.3v then |
| 02:19:06 | Morn | ls |
| 02:19:09 | Morn | oops |
| 02:19:11 | GoRK | haha |
| 02:21:34 | Morn | configure.in: 658: required file `./ltmain.sh' not found |
| 02:23:21 | Russ | 10/100 is probably cardbus |
| 02:23:27 | Russ | suprised it fits in the slots |
| 02:23:55 | Morn | :-) |
| 02:41:42 | GoRK | hrm looks like my input driver has a problem and the symlinks dont seem to be made properly but picogui mostly works |
| 02:42:09 | Morn | I think I have a built picogui jffs2 |
| 02:42:14 | Morn | should I try it :-) |
| 02:42:30 | GoRK | sure it works |
| 02:42:38 | GoRK | your pointer probably wont |
| 02:42:47 | Morn | ugh |
| 02:42:52 | Morn | I kinda need that :-) |
| 02:43:07 | GoRK | and you'll have to change bg_picogui.th to bg_tuxscreen in /etc/pgserver.conf |
| 02:43:44 | GoRK | well makefile.picogui doesnt build any calibration app and the pointing device driver in picogui is still a little wonky (it thinks the pen has come up when it hasnt) |
| 02:44:34 | GoRK | you could use a remote pointer if you had a network card working :-/ |
| 02:45:14 | Morn | oh wait there was an error in the build, but make kept going |
| 02:45:23 | Morn | gen-pgserver-conf.c:31: pgserver/autoconf.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:46:18 | GoRK | hrm autoconf should have gotten run after cvs downloaded pgserver source |
| 02:46:32 | Morn | I'm gonna just make the non gui ramdisk for now |
| 02:46:40 | Morn | since the pointer isn't gonna work anyway |
| 02:46:45 | GoRK | that, definatley, will work :) |
| 02:47:03 | GoRK | i should have it working tomorrow |
| 02:47:59 | Morn | what's a good pcmcia card to order |
| 02:48:05 | Morn | for the tuxscreen? |
| 02:48:59 | Morn | hmmm, a build of the non gui ramdisk (including kernel) only takes about 4-5 minutes |
| 02:52:31 | jacques | Morn: i wonder how long it would take if you used both procs |
| 02:52:52 | Morn | :-) |
| 02:52:58 | andersee | Morn: The NETGEAR FA411 10/100 is a very nice choice |
| 02:53:06 | jacques | heh, I got 4 of them |
| 02:53:16 | jacques | compusa had them on sale for a wihle at 24.95 |
| 02:53:16 | Morn | I'll check out that card |
| 02:53:33 | jacques | very nice card |
| 02:53:39 | jacques | with it had more leds tho |
| 02:53:43 | jacques | wish |
| 02:54:06 | jacques | so - how can I easily make buildroot use both procs? |
| 02:54:35 | Morn | wouldn't make -j2 do it? |
| 02:57:30 | jacques | not necessarily |
| 02:57:30 | jacques | i should try it tho |
| 02:58:28 | Morn | I think your going to have to change the Makefile |
| 02:58:44 | Morn | it would be best to just make $(MAKE) be make -j2 |
| 02:58:53 | Morn | soit could be modified easily |
| 02:59:29 | Russ | MAKE="make -j2" make |
| 03:01:04 | andersee | So what happened to the wiki? |
| 03:01:54 | GoRK | bzflag flubbed it when he was restoring a backup after that guy defaced it |
| 03:02:26 | GoRK | some stuff has been restored from google cache... other stuff hasnt been (yet-- or until google recaches it) |
| 03:03:34 | Morn | well, I got the new kernel and the new image loaded and it works |
| 03:03:50 | Morn | it would be nice to have a gui though :-) |
| 03:04:20 | GoRK | keep in mind the new kernel is only in buildroot-tux as of this morning at like 3:30 am :) |
| 03:21:32 | | it has been said that test is in case you drop a a team flag over a base. it should NOT land on a base that it not it's own, it should fly to safetypos |
| 03:21:32 | jacques | ibot: test |
| 03:21:39 | jacques | sorry |
| 03:21:52 | jacques | if anybody was talking to me - pacbell dsl was down |
| 03:25:17 | Morn | hmmm, just tried microwindows |
| 03:25:27 | Morn | and /usr/local/bin/nxstart.sh keeps crashing |
| 03:25:36 | GoRK | did you build it yourself? |
| 03:25:56 | Morn | error 2 opening touch panel |
| 03:26:01 | Morn | yeah I built it myself |
| 03:26:13 | GoRK | it wont run due to the new touchscreen kernel api. /dev/ucb1200-ts no longer even exists |
| 03:26:23 | Russ | GoRK: Linux version 2.4.16-rmk1-tux2 (russ@russ) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #9 Fri Nov 31 |
| 03:26:50 | Morn | Linux tuxscreen 2.4.16-rmk1-tux1 #2 Fri Nov 30 19:46:09 EST 2001 armv4l unknown |
| 03:26:53 | Russ | (pound the backlight keys fix/code cleanups) |
| 03:26:59 | GoRK | Russ: sweet. what does it have in it besides the screen key fixes? |
| 03:27:00 | jacques | GoRK: so how does one get microwindos to work with the latest kernel? |
| 03:27:11 | GoRK | jacques: one rewrites the touchscreen driver |
| 03:27:38 | Russ | GoRK: I finished moving GPDR |= and GPAF |= stuff to shannon.c because of possible races |
| 03:27:45 | jacques | so does ANYTHING currently work with the new ts driver? |
| 03:27:51 | GoRK | picogui mostly |
| 03:28:03 | jacques | picogui just bailed on compilation in my buildroot |
| 03:28:10 | GoRK | my driver takes the pen up too early, but it works |
| 03:28:40 | jacques | is the current buildroot default to build picogui? |
| 03:28:42 | jacques | seems that way |
| 03:28:55 | Russ | GoRK: is it the "just press harder" release? |
| 03:28:56 | GoRK | it shouldnt be.. may be a mistake though |
| 03:29:11 | GoRK | Russ: no it's the use a real timer not a counter release :) |
| 03:29:21 | GoRK | err rather |
| 03:29:39 | GoRK | the 'i should be using a real timer but instead im using a counter' release |
| 03:30:23 | jacques | the error is really too long ot paste here |
| 03:30:44 | GoRK | can you mail it to gork@users.sourceforge.net ? |
| 03:30:48 | jacques | ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify' |
| 03:30:49 | jacques | Try `ltconfig --help' for more information. |
| 03:30:49 | jacques | configure: error: libtool configure failed |
| 03:30:49 | jacques | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/fontenot/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/picogui/cli_c' |
| 03:30:49 | jacques | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. |
| 03:30:51 | jacques | etc etc etc |
| 03:30:59 | jacques | it's a result of an earlier error |
| 03:31:10 | jacques | checking host system type... Invalid configuration `armv4l-linux': machine `armv4l' not recognized |
| 03:31:10 | jacques | \ |
| 03:31:21 | jacques | during autoconf |
| 03:31:35 | jacques | but thing is - i never eve ntold it to build picogui |
| 03:31:54 | jacques | #GUI= |
| 03:31:55 | jacques | GUI=picogui |
| 03:31:55 | jacques | #GUI=microwindows |
| 03:31:55 | GoRK | ok i fixed buildroot so it's not building picogui by default.. yes it was my mistake .. just comment it out in the Makefile |
| 03:32:44 | jacques | yea i did |
| 03:32:50 | jacques | but i wonder why it wont build? |
| 03:32:54 | jacques | is this another toolchain tihng? |
| 03:32:56 | GoRK | what, picogui? |
| 03:33:04 | jacques | checking host system type... Invalid configuration `armv4l-linux': machine `armv4l' not recognized |
| 03:33:22 | GoRK | if your toolchain doesnt register itself properly, yes. armv4l-linux afaik should be a valid toolchain name |
| 03:33:27 | GoRK | err valid arch name |
| 03:33:40 | jacques | why would that happen? |
| 03:33:48 | jacques | what do you mean register itself properly? |
| 03:33:54 | jacques | i built this toolchain myself |
| 03:34:02 | jacques | it's worked for many many other things |
| 03:36:24 | Morn | is away: getting ice cream |
| 03:44:52 | jacques | is anybody working on making tinyx work with the new ts driver? |
| 03:47:25 | jacques | make: /home/fontenot/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/mtd/util/mkfs.jffs2: Command not found |
| 03:47:31 | jacques | what's that all about? |
| 03:48:43 | Niddix | jacques: mkfs.jffs2 builds the tuxscreen-image.jffs2 |
| 03:48:59 | jacques | never mind |
| 03:49:15 | jacques | my mtd tarball was corrupt |
| 03:49:18 | jacques | got a new one |
| 03:50:49 | Morn | is back (gone 00:14:25) |
| 03:51:35 | jacques | wb Morn |
| 03:51:41 | Morn | :-) |
| 03:52:34 | Morn | I'm getting good at this download and flash routine |
| 03:52:40 | Morn | I may wear the flash rom out |
| 03:53:04 | jacques | not too likely |
| 03:53:34 | Morn | hmmm, picogui says unable to open the graphics engine |
| 03:54:27 | Morn | Cannot initialise mouse |
| 03:54:31 | Morn | there is no mouse! |
| 03:55:25 | GoRK | picogui wont draw a cursor by default with the ucb1x00 driver |
| 03:55:37 | GoRK | you are running pgserver, right? |
| 03:55:42 | GoRK | what is in /etc/pgserver.conf ? |
| 03:55:56 | Russ | its a 100,000 or 1,000,000 erase cycles |
| 03:55:59 | Morn | pgserver isn't started |
| 03:56:22 | GoRK | what does it say when you try to start it |
| 03:56:37 | Morn | pgserver: No such file or directory |
| 03:56:42 | Morn | that could be the problem |
| 03:56:59 | GoRK | yeah if you had a build problem it's possible that /usr/bin/pgserver isnt there |
| 03:57:44 | Morn | does the cpu run at 206 or 133 by default? |
| 03:57:53 | jacques | 192 |
| 03:58:01 | GoRK | i belive linux has it running at 196 or something around there |
| 03:59:25 | Morn | ok, lets see why pgserver didn't build |
| 03:59:42 | andersee | Morn: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 03:59:57 | Morn | cpuinfo doesn't tell me the speed, just bogomips |
| 04:00:01 | Morn | which is kinda useless |
| 04:01:38 | Morn | I need to add less to the ramdisk |
| 04:01:41 | Morn | I really use it a lot |
| 04:01:55 | jacques | there isnt a pager in busybox? |
| 04:02:01 | jacques | more? |
| 04:02:02 | Morn | more |
| 04:02:08 | Morn | but I like less better |
| 04:02:25 | jacques | will less build with uclibc? |
| 04:02:37 | Morn | I don't know, I'll try later |
| 04:02:55 | Morn | gen-pgserver-conf.c:31: pgserver/autoconf.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:02:59 | Morn | that is the trouble |
| 04:04:07 | Morn | input/Makefile.am:6: libinput_a_SOURCES includes configure substitution `@INPUT@' |
| 04:09:37 | Morn | sorry, the cable modem device driver crashed again, I hate winXP |
| 04:09:40 | Morn | with a passion |
| 04:09:50 | RussGWC | so don't use it |
| 04:09:59 | Morn | I need it for the cable modem |
| 04:10:06 | Morn | I can't get it to work with linux yet |
| 04:10:08 | RussGWC | so buy another cable modem |
| 04:10:16 | RussGWC | they are aroun $120-$170 |
| 04:10:23 | Morn | as far as I know my cable provider only supports this one |
| 04:10:31 | RussGWC | is it USB? |
| 04:10:46 | Morn | I have to use the USB in windows for right now... that is the trouble |
| 04:10:56 | Morn | If I can get linux working I can use the ethernet port |
| 04:11:08 | RussGWC | ? |
| 04:11:17 | Morn | the machine doing the connect is my laptop |
| 04:11:21 | RussGWC | it has an ethernet port too? and you aren't using it in linux? |
| 04:11:22 | Morn | only one pcmcia slot |
| 04:11:26 | RussGWC | I'm confused |
| 04:11:36 | Morn | I can't get an IP with dhcp under linux with it |
| 04:11:45 | Morn | and tech support won't even talk about linux |
| 04:11:46 | RussGWC | tried udhcpc? |
| 04:11:55 | Morn | I tried pump and dhclient |
| 04:12:00 | RussGWC | tried giving it the host name they give you? |
| 04:12:08 | Morn | they never gave me a host name |
| 04:12:19 | RussGWC | try udhcp, if it doesn't work, I'll make it work |
| 04:12:26 | RussGWC | (debian packages) |
| 04:12:35 | Morn | I'm running Mandrake (rpm based) |
| 04:12:40 | RussGWC | freshmeat.net |
| 04:12:44 | Morn | I'll see if there are any rpms |
| 04:13:01 | RussGWC | don't think there are |
| 04:13:16 | Morn | source will work |
| 04:13:49 | RussGWC | don't forget to release XP's lease first |
| 04:17:40 | Morn | ok, when my roommate goes to bed I'll try this |
| 04:17:51 | Morn | I can't kill the connection while she is surfing |
| 04:25:10 | Keyser_Soze | can you set a static IP? |
| 04:25:29 | Keyser_Soze | at least with my cable modem, the IP hasn't changed in months |
| 04:25:53 | Keyser_Soze | so we don't use DHCP, because it seemed to be a pain in the ass |
| 04:26:21 | RussGWC | depends on if they are nice enough to test leases before handing them out, or if they block arps without a lease |
| 04:26:59 | Morn | Keyser_Soze: in the testing I got a different IP with usb than I did with ethernet |
| 04:27:51 | Keyser_Soze | who do you have cable through? |
| 04:28:49 | Morn | Charter Pipeline |
| 04:28:54 | Keyser_Soze | we've got AT&T. i'm just curious, because lately our connection has been erratic, and we're considering switching. |
| 04:29:09 | Keyser_Soze | but it's nice to have the same IP address all the time. |
| 04:29:24 | RussGWC | hopefully getting @work soon at work |
| 04:30:09 | Morn | I get the same IP all the time with the USB connection |
| 04:30:18 | Morn | and I assume I'll get the same with the ethernet card too |
| 04:31:38 | Morn | I'm not good with Makefile.am's |
| 04:31:42 | Morn | what does it mean |
| 04:31:52 | Morn | input/Makefile.am:6: libinput_a_SOURCES includes configure substitution `@INPUT@' |
| 04:32:15 | RussGWC | don't you want to edit the Makefile.in? |
| 04:32:32 | Morn | I ran autogen.sh and got that |
| 04:32:40 | RussGWC | isn't Makefile.am generated from Makefile.in, or am I backwards |
| 04:33:04 | Morn | hmmm |
| 04:34:11 | Morn | Makefile.in defines INPUT = @INPUT@ |
| 04:36:20 | RussGWC | I don't understand autogen very well |
| 04:37:47 | Morn | picogui needs SDL? |
| 05:41:06 | Morn2 | Russ Still there? |
| 06:01:44 | jacquesZzZz | whoah - the backlight/screen control in 2.4.16 rocks!!! |
| 06:01:54 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:04:26 | RussGWC | yah |
| 06:04:33 | RussGWC | I'm here |
| 06:04:44 | Morn2 | I tried udhcpc |
| 06:04:47 | Morn2 | no dice |
| 06:04:54 | Morn2 | I even got the hostname from earthlink |
| 06:04:56 | Morn2 | didn't help |
| 06:05:39 | RussGWC | can you turn on debugging and then pass me the output along with a raw ethernet dump? |
| 06:06:04 | Morn2 | ok... it just kept saying discovering |
| 06:06:15 | Morn2 | I have to log off to do that... |
| 06:06:35 | Morn2 | I guess tcpdump is the best way to get the ethernet dump |
| 06:06:46 | RussGWC | make sure you get raw data though |
| 06:06:59 | Morn2 | is there a better way? |
| 06:07:06 | RussGWC | ethereal works too |
| 06:07:15 | Morn2 | ok |
| 06:07:29 | RussGWC | that's what I'll open it with anyway |
| 06:08:11 | jacques | hmm, there's a strange lag now when logging out via ctrl-D |
| 06:10:00 | jacques | anyone else notice that? |
| 06:12:23 | RussGWC | in what? |
| 06:12:30 | jacques | oops =- the lag is there with 2.4.7 as well - please ignore me |
| 06:12:58 | jacques | RussGWC: did I mention how hard the new screen controls rock? |
| 06:13:17 | RussGWC | I think you did |
| 06:14:08 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:18:10 | jacques | hmm I need to build a 2.4.16 with ext3 support |
| 06:34:02 | Morn2 | Russ: from the ethereal stuff it looks like it's sending me an IP I'm just not using it |
| 06:36:16 | RussGWC | Morn: can you save the ethereal stuff and send it to me |
| 06:36:23 | Morn | dcc? |
| 06:36:27 | RussGWC | yah |
| 06:36:43 | RussGWC | as well as the output of udhcpc compiled with debug |
| 06:37:11 | RussGWC | oh, right |
| 06:37:16 | RussGWC | you are behing winXP |
| 06:37:26 | Morn | yeah |
| 06:37:38 | RussGWC | ya, XP won't let you dcc send |
| 06:37:43 | RussGWC | spam@asu.edu |
| 06:37:48 | Morn | ah, I've gotten dcc's |
| 06:37:59 | RussGWC | right, its a reverse protocol |
| 06:38:38 | dirkx | JFlash experts: Any reason why 'flash_locks' causes the tux to reboot and reboot and reboot and reboot - I had kind of expect an 'ls' of the partitions. |
| 06:39:23 | RussGWC | dunno, I saw it work, if it doesn't, blame BZFlag |
| 06:39:29 | Morn | restarting my mail server (stupid solaris box keeps powering down... I need to turn off the power save stuff) |
| 06:40:09 | Morn | on it's way |
| 06:42:14 | dirkx | It is caused by flash_get_manuf_code(0); |
| 06:42:17 | RussGWC | just glancing at the dhcp.out it looks like a badly broken server |
| 06:42:20 | dirkx | BZFlag - you around ? |
| 06:42:50 | Morn | it seems to work fine with windows and macos |
| 06:45:10 | jacques | I thought kernels could be up to 1MB in size?? |
| 06:45:24 | jacques | blob is telling me my kernel is too big to fit |
| 06:45:27 | jacques | :-( |
| 06:47:40 | RussGWC | none of the offers are for you |
| 06:47:53 | Morn | oh ok |
| 06:47:57 | Morn | I thought the acks were me |
| 06:48:22 | RussGWC | no, the lease time on your network is 1 day, and acks are broadcast |
| 06:48:42 | RussGWC | so every 12 hours, a client will ask for another ACK (or when it reboots) |
| 06:48:50 | jacques | is it 900kB? |
| 06:48:59 | RussGWC | and from the look of the number of arp requests, its a huge area |
| 06:49:32 | RussGWC | any chance you can get a dump of your windows machine obtaining an IP? |
| 06:49:56 | Morn | yeah, hold on, I've got ethereal on it |
| 06:51:01 | Morn | let me do that |
| 06:51:31 | Morn | it's gonna be messy since there is a lot of traffic going through the network |
| 06:52:36 | RussGWC | just do the filter "port 67 or port 68" |
| 06:55:46 | dirkx | BZFlag: Playing with jflash - gotten it to work with IEEE/pci and activewire.com -> so things are a bit easier/faster than with the serial port (and my laptop has no such thing in any case :-) |
| 06:56:00 | dirkx | ./gpio_monitor works perfectly - but ./flash_lock seems to bring the machine in a |
| 06:56:23 | dirkx | reboot cycle. During the flash_get_manuf_code code. |
| 06:56:28 | dirkx | Have you seen this before ? |
| 06:57:21 | Morn | aparently ethereal doesn't like capturing on the usb port |
| 06:58:13 | BZFlag | i've seen it flake on that before, yes. but I got it to stablize by futzing with the cabling. |
| 06:58:14 | dirkx | Or more accurate - it happens in write_data(); after access_rom(SETUP)- in access_rom(HOLD,... |
| 06:59:35 | dirkx | Which is kind of weird as SETUP == HOLD - or at least it seems that access_rom() uses the same part of the case statement. |
| 07:00:14 | jacques | what's the maximum kernel size I can flash? |
| 07:01:53 | RussGWC | Morn? |
| 07:02:04 | Morn | yeah |
| 07:02:16 | RussGWC | Morn: get a little hub and connect the cable modem, the linux machine, and the winXP machine together |
| 07:02:22 | RussGWC | switch on ethereal |
| 07:02:36 | RussGWC | release the XP IP lease, renew the XP ip lease |
| 07:02:41 | RussGWC | switch off ethereal |
| 07:02:42 | Morn | I have a switch |
| 07:02:48 | Morn | not a hub |
| 07:03:03 | RussGWC | I think its broadcast |
| 07:03:26 | RussGWC | jacques: look in /proc/mtd |
| 07:04:44 | jacques | RussGWC: yeah i am having a hard time converting the hex in my head |
| 07:06:19 | dirkx | BZFlag: So it should *NOT* reboot every second or so during a flash read or write ? |
| 07:07:14 | Morn | Russ: the way the firewall works in XP I wouldn't see the data anyway since it wouldn't forward those things to the local network |
| 07:07:22 | RussGWC | dirkx: right |
| 07:07:33 | RussGWC | Morn: no, put the hub on the outside |
| 07:07:46 | RussGWC | between the cable modem, xp machine, and linux box |
| 07:07:47 | dirkx | Hmm. Txs. |
| 07:08:12 | Morn | oh hook the modem up to the hub |
| 07:08:32 | Morn | let me try |
| 07:10:52 | Morn | wait... I only have one ethernet port in my laptop |
| 07:11:01 | Morn | I think I'm missing something here |
| 07:15:08 | RussGWC | ? |
| 07:15:15 | jacques | what's 000e0000 ? |
| 07:15:38 | RussGWC | you hook up the external port of the XP machine, the port on the cable modem, and a port on a linux machine up to the hub |
| 07:16:02 | RussGWC | jacques: a size? |
| 07:16:31 | jacques | RussGWC: i know that - I mean what does it translate to in decimal |
| 07:16:52 | RussGWC | dunno, use bc or something |
| 07:16:53 | jacques | 1MB - 128kB? |
| 07:18:32 | jacques | hmm |
| 07:18:44 | jacques | it translates to 90000 which makes no sense |
| 07:19:49 | jacques | at least bc translates it that way |
| 07:28:24 | RussGWC | no it doesn't |
| 07:28:36 | RussGWC | it translates to 14 * 0v10000 |
| 07:28:38 | RussGWC | er |
| 07:28:41 | RussGWC | 14 * 0x10000 |
| 07:29:04 | RussGWC | or, 14 * 2^16 |
| 07:29:11 | | 12 |
| 07:29:11 | RussGWC | ibot: 14 * 2^16 |
| 07:29:18 | RussGWC | ...right.... |
| 07:29:30 | | 18 |
| 07:29:30 | RussGWC | ibot: 2^16 |
| 07:29:47 | | 252 |
| 07:29:47 | RussGWC | ibot: 14 * (2^16) |
| 07:29:51 | jacques | 917,504 |
| 07:29:56 | RussGWC | there you g |
| 07:29:57 | RussGWC | o |
| 07:30:00 | jacques | :-) |
| 07:30:10 | dirkx | RussGWX/BZFlag - found the problem. Removing -O2 'fixed' it. |
| 07:30:13 | RussGWC | or, 64k * 14 |
| 07:30:27 | | 896 |
| 07:30:27 | RussGWC | ibot: 64 * 14 |
| 07:30:31 | dirkx | How long does it normally take to do a flash _read_ with a printer cable - minute or so ? |
| 07:30:35 | RussGWC | 896kB |
| 07:30:42 | RussGWC | dirkx: long time |
| 07:30:47 | RussGWC | (at least data) |
| 07:30:54 | dirkx | As in hours ? |
| 07:31:15 | RussGWC | if you want to read the entire 4M, it will take about 90 to 120 minutes |
| 07:32:18 | dirkx | Ack. Let's see how long the USB takes. |
| 07:33:34 | jacques | removing FAT and VFAT made is small enough |
| 07:36:48 | RussGWC | dirkx: probabpy about 30 minutes |
| 07:37:02 | RussGWC | dirkx: jtag is an *incredibly* tedious process |
| 07:37:28 | dirkx | Aye - I am *very* tempted to write some firmware into the 8051 which sits on the USB board. I just gotten |
| 07:37:40 | RussGWC | its not tedious there really |
| 07:37:48 | RussGWC | its just the noundy scan thing |
| 07:37:56 | dirkx | the HP machine to work - and it read the whole thing within a few minutes. But I need to give it back day after nomorrow. |
| 07:38:04 | RussGWC | you go aroun the entire boundy scan thing, setting pins one by one |
| 07:38:05 | dirkx | Yes - it is the loop over all 200 pins of the chip. |
| 07:38:11 | RussGWC | go around again, an set a cs line, etc |
| 07:38:30 | dirkx | But if I can move that down onto the USB chip - which runs at a couple of Mhz - then we should |
| 07:38:33 | dirkx | go a lot faster. |
| 07:38:40 | RussGWC | dirkx: and the maximum jtag speed is 20Mhz |
| 07:39:05 | dirkx | Ah - good - the 8052 gets clocked around that speed. So I can propably just toggle the |
| 07:39:11 | dirkx | bits at max speed. Nice. |
| 07:39:36 | dirkx | Actually - the HP machine i have here has 1, 2, 10, 20, 50, 66 and 120 Mhz. But perhaps that |
| 07:39:40 | dirkx | is chips specific. |
| 07:43:04 | dirkx | RussGWC/BZFlag - who is the maintainer of the jflash code ? |
| 07:44:12 | morn | Russ: the xp dump is on it's way |
| 07:47:32 | RussGWC | dirkx: its a hodge podge |
| 07:47:43 | RussGWC | dirkx: I have some jtag code from scratch |
| 07:48:16 | dirkx | RussGWC: :-) :-) I did exactly the same - wrote a simple version which did Manuf.Id readout. |
| 07:48:43 | dirkx | I've got now - if you folsk want it. A version of jflash which add's support for the USB device and the IEEE/PCI device from HP. |
| 07:48:59 | dirkx | Basically I've abstracted out putp() and the port open/close. |
| 07:49:42 | RussGWC | dirkx: one is a gtk pin thingy |
| 07:49:56 | RussGWC | dirkx: and the other its a mtd mapping through jtag |
| 07:50:26 | Morn | yawns. |
| 07:50:37 | RussGWC | I'm especially proud of the mtd mapping though jtag, although it can make the machine unresponsive for long periods of time |
| 07:51:42 | RussGWC | Morn: maybe it needs an option 61 |
| 07:51:56 | Morn | option 61? |
| 07:52:00 | Morn | what the heck is that |
| 07:52:15 | RussGWC | its redundant, but the xp one has it |
| 07:53:30 | RussGWC | open up packet.c |
| 07:53:40 | RussGWC | in the options, add in.. |
| 07:54:35 | RussGWC | {"clientid", OPTION_U8|OPTION_LIST, 0x3d}, |
| 07:55:56 | Morn | do you mean options.c ? |
| 07:56:04 | RussGWC | ya |
| 07:57:10 | Morn | ok, let me try it again |
| 07:57:14 | RussGWC | no |
| 07:57:18 | RussGWC | its not done |
| 07:57:46 | Morn | ok |
| 07:58:04 | RussGWC | we'll just do a quick hack |
| 07:58:09 | RussGWC | in clientpacket.c |
| 07:58:16 | RussGWC | init_packet() |
| 07:58:37 | RussGWC | at the beginning, add a char clientid[8]; |
| 07:58:56 | RussGWC | at the send of the function, add: |
| 07:59:06 | RussGWC | clientid[0] = 0x3d; |
| 07:59:17 | RussGWC | clientid[1] = 7; |
| 08:00:10 | RussGWC | clientid[2] = 1; |
| 08:00:38 | RussGWC | memcpy(clientid + 3, client_config.arp, 6); |
| 08:01:14 | RussGWC | add_option_string(packet->options, clientid); |
| 08:01:37 | RussGWC | (actually, at the top, it should be clientid[9]; |
| 08:01:45 | RussGWC | compile it, and go |
| 08:02:02 | Morn | got it |
| 08:02:04 | Morn | brb |
| 08:13:28 | RussGWC | anything? |
| 08:14:10 | Morn | looks the same (other than the ethereal shows that the option 61 is set) |
| 08:15:11 | Morn | Client Identifier - Hardware type Etherenet Address <my mac address> |
| 08:16:02 | RussGWC | hmmm |
| 08:16:11 | RussGWC | I'll have to figure it out tomorrow |
| 08:16:19 | Morn | Yeah, it's 3am here |
| 08:16:23 | Morn | I should try to sleep |
| 08:17:06 | Morn | see ya tomorrow and thanks again |
| 08:17:16 | Morn | is away: sleeping... dreaming in pascal... |
| 08:18:28 | dirkx | RussGWC: what where you saying about 'mtd' ? |
| 08:18:34 | RussGWC | russ.dhs.org |
| 08:18:58 | RussGWC | it gives you /dev/mtd* for the board you connect to |
| 08:19:14 | RussGWC | (probably have to be updated for shannon) |
| 08:19:32 | RussGWC | so you can use mtdutils |
| 08:19:37 | dirkx | Ah - very neat ! |
| 08:19:55 | RussGWC | anyway, gtg |
| 08:20:03 | dirkx | Yep - I get what you have done there. |
| 08:25:54 | Russ | back |
| 10:22:59 | sodul | hi every body |
| 10:24:10 | sodul | I think i need a little help with my TRENDnet TE100-PC16R car on my tuxscreen |
| 10:52:59 | GoRK | Morn: there is a possibility that it's not going to respond to a DHCP request from a different MAC address until your lease expires. On my cable modem here, If i switch the device that is attached to the cable modem, it will be 2-4 hours (when my dhcp lease expires) before it will work -- unless i change its mac address to the mac address of whatever used to be on it.. |
| 10:53:57 | GoRK | Morn: so anyway you might try changing setting the mac address of your linux box to the mac address of the windows machine that currently does get the ip (and of course take the windows machine off the network while you do this) and see how you fare |
| 11:05:13 | | hello, GoRK |
| 11:05:13 | GoRK | hello |
| 11:05:24 | | GoRK: i'm not following you... |
| 11:05:24 | GoRK | ibot, stuff it |
| 11:05:36 | | ...but ibot is _... |
| 11:05:36 | GoRK | ibot, you are a smelly pile of rusty bits |
| 14:17:08 | Morn | Morning.... |
| 14:21:08 | DrXenon | Guten Morgen |
| 14:24:05 | Morn | I don't know if I would say that yet |
| 14:24:49 | Morn | is back (gone 06:07:28) |
| 15:11:26 | Morn | GoRK you around? |
| 16:29:35 | Morn | hi Russ |
| 17:40:12 | Disconnect | hey all. more stupid linux-on-tuxscreen questions.. anyone ready to field? ;) |
| 17:44:58 | Morn | I can try, but I'm very new myself |
| 17:45:10 | Morn | but at least I'm here :-) |
| 17:47:16 | Disconnect | heh ok |
| 17:47:20 | Disconnect | basic stuff.. |
| 17:47:48 | Disconnect | can it play mp3s (under linux).. can the memory be upgraded (the web page said yes-but-no last I saw).. eg upgraded -and used- under linux.. |
| 17:47:57 | Disconnect | does the phone stuff work under linux.. and finally .. pcmcia/linux.. |
| 17:48:32 | Morn | as far as I know the dsp stuff isn't working yet |
| 17:48:35 | Morn | so no sound |
| 17:48:48 | Morn | the memory can be upgraded but you need patches to the kernel to use it |
| 17:48:56 | Morn | and pcmcia is working (to a degree) |
| 17:50:02 | Disconnect | hrm. so at some point thats not right now, I'll grab one ;) |
| 17:50:13 | Disconnect | isn't a kernel/hardware hacker, just an embedded developer ;) |
| 17:50:18 | Morn | Don't wait too long |
| 17:50:22 | Morn | they might all disappear |
| 17:50:36 | Disconnect | what about under the original OS? |
| 17:50:54 | Morn | with the original os the extra ram works... I don't think you can play mp3's |
| 17:51:06 | Morn | and the pcmcia stuff is limited, I don't think ethernet cards work |
| 17:51:59 | trolocsis | Disconnect: Do you know how to enable malloc support into an ARM firmware image? |
| 17:55:16 | Morn | if you want to use the machine as an actual phone stay with the original os |
| 17:55:28 | Morn | if you want it for a cool project machine use linux |
| 17:56:03 | Morn | I've almost got pgserver to build :-) |
| 17:57:50 | Disconnect | travis|afk: um. no? |
| 17:58:02 | Disconnect | doh. |
| 17:58:23 | Disconnect | its got IR, right? |
| 17:58:53 | Morn | yeah, the keyboard is IR |
| 17:59:18 | Disconnect | will bbiab. its 1pm, should put contacts in, that sort of thing. ;) |
| 18:48:31 | Tangent | Disconnect : IR on the tux is receive only |
| 18:56:15 | jacques | and it's CIR at that |
| 18:56:34 | Tangent | jacques : It will do IrDA too |
| 18:57:21 | jacques | Tangent: oh? |
| 18:57:29 | Tangent | jacques : It would even send if you switched the transceiver |
| 18:57:47 | Tangent | jacques : All of the irda hardware except for the actual transceiver is built into the sa1100 |
| 18:58:08 | Tangent | jacques : It should have same IrDA capabilities as the iPAQ... (if it had a different transceiver) |
| 18:58:15 | jacques | hmmm |
| 19:00:33 | jacques | i would be more interested in CIR send capability |
| 19:00:50 | Morn | fights with picogui... |
| 19:03:07 | jacques | Morn: it wouldnt even compile for me |
| 19:03:23 | Morn | jacques: I fiddled with it some and got it to compile but not link |
| 19:05:04 | Morn | ok, I fiddled with it a lot... |
| 19:05:08 | jacques | heh |
| 19:05:14 | Morn | I think I'm having trouble in the SDL libs |
| 19:09:10 | Disconnect | Tangent: you ever get CIR working on the ipaq? |
| 19:09:14 | Disconnect | has been arguing with it for 2 days now. |
| 19:09:34 | Disconnect | even found a remote that (w/ irtty.o and minicom) prints "gibberish" .. but lirc_sir fails to see any data. |
| 19:09:38 | Tangent | Disconnect : Well, I got receivews working.. which is all I was expecting, as the Tux doesn't have transmit hardware |
| 19:09:58 | Tangent | Disconnect : It was using lirc that Russ managed to decode the keyboard stuff |
| 19:10:05 | Disconnect | Tangent: receive would suffice for me right now. send should follow semi-magically ;) |
| 19:10:36 | Disconnect | Tangent: hrm. might be a 2.4.7-hh13 thing. the consumerir wiki shows it working as well, but that was around 2.4.3 or so IIRC |
| 19:11:01 | Disconnect | Tangent: lets port linux to a remote control (http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/index.shtml) |
| 19:11:10 | Tangent | Disconnect : Could be... it was a few kernels ago when I played with lirc on the tux |
| 19:12:00 | Disconnect | Tangent: do you remember off the top of your head if it used an irq of it's own? |
| 19:12:24 | Tangent | Disconnect : From memory, no idea |
| 19:12:27 | Disconnect | has noticed that lirc_sir binds irq16 (configurable of course) but the irtty stuff dosn't seem to bind one at all |
| 19:12:40 | Tangent | Disconnect : Don't remember having to mess with that at all |
| 19:12:43 | Disconnect | and none of them seem to increment unusually when using it either |
| 19:12:46 | Disconnect | hrm. |
| 19:13:08 | Tangent | Disconnect : It may be failing because the keyboard driver already has the port locked |
| 19:13:28 | Tangent | Disconnect : There was no keyboard driver back when I did it |
| 19:13:31 | Disconnect | Tangent: this is on an ipaq ("<Disconnect> Tangent: you ever get CIR working on the ipaq?") |
| 19:13:53 | Tangent | Disconnect : Ah... sorry.. I was fooled by the channel we're on |
| 19:14:01 | Disconnect | heh fair enough |
| 19:14:12 | Tangent | Disconnect : Never messed with lirc on the iPAQ at all |
| 19:14:14 | Disconnect | btw ibot crashed just now |
| 19:14:24 | Disconnect | hrm. nm. it just dislikes me it seems. |
| 19:17:16 | | jacques: San Jose, San Jose International Airport, CA, United States; (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; last updated: Dec 01, 2001 01:53 PM EST; Dew Point: 46.0 F (7.8 C); Precipitation last hour: 0.01 inches; Pressure (altimeter): 30 in. Hg (1015 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.07 inches (2.5 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 80%; Sky conditions: overcast; Temperature: 52.0 F (11.1 C); Visibility: 9 mile(s); Weather: Light rain; Wind: from the SE (130 degrees) at 21 MPH (19 KT) gusting to 29 MPH (26 KT); Windchill: 24 F (-4 C) |
| 19:17:16 | jacques | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 19:17:30 | jacques | nasty day |
| 19:19:12 | Tangent | BZFlag : I saw the URL you msg'd me with the log files from ibot... Well Done :) |
| 19:20:48 | Tangent | BZFlag : Tho' for some reason, ibot seems to have lost the ability to search at the moment |
| 19:20:56 | Tangent | BZFlag : Just ignores people when they ask |
| 19:23:50 | Tangent | BZFlag : Correction... it just can't search for IR |
| 19:23:57 | Tangent | ibot search for tangent |
| 19:38:08 | | Russ: what? |
| 19:38:08 | Russ | ibot: seach for Russ |
| 19:38:13 | Russ | ibot: search for Russ |
| 19:55:52 | Disconnect | Russ: tangent said you had LIRC working on the ipaq? |
| 19:56:41 | Russ | Tangent had it working on his |
| 19:56:48 | Russ | he was grabbing signals for me |
| 19:57:02 | Russ | but I have to go |
| 19:57:07 | Tangent | Russ : Can you remember what I did... you told me all of the instructions online |
| 19:58:35 | Disconnect | Russ: my problem is, I built lirc_sir (successfuly) w/ --with-driver=ipaq .. and it insmods and takes an irq(!) but never sees anything. |
| 19:58:57 | Disconnect | whereas at least one remote "shows up" in minicom w/ standard irtty (shows up as in prints gibberish) |
| 20:07:19 | Disconnect | russ: any thoughts? |
| 20:07:21 | Disconnect | is busy pinging out for some reason |
| 20:25:53 | as_ | Evnin all. |