| 00:04:56 | andersee | heh. My aic7xxx non-blocksize read fix made it into 2.4.15-greased-turkey. Just no changelog entry. |
| 00:05:16 | andersee | So my MO drives work again |
| 00:05:17 | andersee | :) |
| 00:07:02 | andersee | I rewrote the uClibc math library based on the math lib from MacOs X. |
| 00:07:57 | andersee | By default I only build the C89 math funcs, so libm is now just 24k on ARM. Add |
| 00:08:17 | andersee | Add in the full C99 stuff and it about another 35k or so |
| 00:08:35 | andersee | Still much smaller then it was... And it works on ARM now too. :) |
| 00:17:17 | GoRK | argh i needed to talk to spacecoaster :( |
| 00:32:42 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 04:55:20 | thekernel | Well, it's official. My RS/6000 boots |
| 04:56:01 | andersee | cool |
| 04:56:33 | thekernel | Now just to find a set of SMS images |
| 05:05:02 | GoRK | whoot picogui driver for new ts interface :) |
| 05:05:15 | GoRK | now to fix jitter and we're done |
| 05:09:08 | GoRK | argh i dont have an old kerenl unpacked anymore |
| 05:38:55 | andersee | eats turkey soup |
| 05:40:56 | BZFlag | heh, /me had some earlier. |
| 06:55:52 | cold | hello |
| 06:56:38 | cold | anyone feel like answering some "out of curiosity" sorts of questions? |
| 06:57:32 | andersee | shoot |
| 06:58:05 | GoRK | or you could ask too |
| 06:58:20 | cold | where did these guys come from in the first place? |
| 06:59:24 | andersee | which guys? |
| 06:59:29 | andersee | The tuxscreen phones? |
| 06:59:35 | cold | hah, sorry... the tuxscreens |
| 07:00:25 | andersee | http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/SomeHistory |
| 07:02:20 | cold | ah, I see |
| 07:02:30 | cold | was poking around on the wiki, hadn't found that yet |
| 07:05:47 | cold | so, how's the project looking? should I buy one? :) |
| 07:07:28 | andersee | If you are interested in doing embedded Linux or ARM work, sure. |
| 07:07:42 | andersee | Can't beat the price |
| 07:11:26 | cold | I saw mention of getting Familiar up and running on it... does this include a working X display? |
| 07:12:52 | andersee | yeah, I believe so. |
| 07:13:05 | andersee | Though you will need to NFS mount it or use a CF card |
| 07:13:06 | cold | have you done much work with one? |
| 07:13:17 | cold | so there are pcmcia drivers? |
| 07:13:26 | andersee | yeah |
| 07:14:34 | cold | what all have you done with yours? |
| 07:15:14 | cold | I'd like to get one to throw an 802.11b card in and use for an ssh terminal :D |
| 07:17:10 | cold | and come up with a good basic WM for this sized device- i.e. one that non-linux people can use relatively efficiently. |
| 07:17:24 | cold | of course, I assume this device is hopelessly out of production.... |
| 07:18:00 | GoRK | yes |
| 07:18:25 | cold | :\ |
| 07:18:49 | cold | do you know what the original purchasers used the thing for |
| 07:18:52 | cold | ? |
| 07:18:59 | cold | (apologies, can't type tonight...) |
| 07:19:16 | GoRK | um... did you read SomeHistory or not? |
| 07:20:15 | cold | yes, but I didn't entirely make sense of what the end use was :x <-- looking through again |
| 07:21:29 | GoRK | it was intended to be sold by lucent/philips as an internet phone (like webtv) but it didnt take off and the lucent/philips joint venture dissolved. AFAIK, a surplus stockpiler bought up the inventory, and that's who tim bought them from |
| 07:22:10 | cold | ok- so I assume the first two companies that payed 650 a piece were all for R&D |
| 07:23:13 | GoRK | no that was the target sales price... but since the phone was never sold, nobody ever paid that for them |
| 07:23:54 | GoRK | the manufacturing cost was probably a few hundred bucks, but philips/lucent dumped them |
| 07:24:25 | cold | >> They sold 1200 for $650.00 each to 2 different Companies. << |
| 07:25:49 | cold | yeah, apparently the partnership went south anyway. definitely an interesting design though, I don't believe I've seen anything comparable. |
| 07:26:04 | GoRK | hmm i was reading my stuff from shaggy's page.. i guess somehistory is a different story |
| 07:26:18 | GoRK | one place said 10K units were manufactured |
| 07:26:57 | cold | I just want to know what those two companies did with their 1200 ;) it's a neat looking product, but it needs a *very specific* purpose to make complete sense, you know? |
| 07:28:30 | cold | GoRK : what do you do with yours? |
| 07:28:52 | GoRK | picogui, kernel, voip |
| 07:29:00 | GoRK | it is a phone, after all :) |
| 07:30:00 | cold | voip? you actually have that functional? :D |
| 07:31:14 | GoRK | well almost. i have a commandline IAX client that is able to recieve calls.. im still testing it and trying to get a new release of picogui/tuxphone/pgtuxphone out on the new kernel in the meantime |
| 07:36:19 | cold | spiffy! |
| 07:38:08 | cold | is impressed |
| 10:37:28 | pegaz | hi everybody! |
| 14:02:39 | prpplague | morning all |
| 14:16:39 | prpplague | hmm, kinda quite around here this morning |
| 15:05:47 | thekernel | no it isn't :) |
| 15:09:51 | prpplague | thekernel: i see your alive |
| 15:10:05 | prpplague | thekernel: anything excitin happening today? |
| 16:21:20 | thekernel | Not really, as you can see I'm even taking hours between responses myself |
| 16:23:13 | vosque | haha |
| 16:23:18 | vosque | so much for 'real time communication' |
| 16:23:21 | thekernel | Oh, but I am getting my RS/6000 going |
| 16:23:27 | vosque | hey neat |
| 16:23:38 | thekernel | What? is this fake time communication then? |
| 16:23:52 | thekernel | It keeps wanting to go into SMS utilities |
| 16:24:08 | thekernel | I hope it stops asking for that once I give it a disc |
| 16:24:24 | thekernel | As in SCSI device |
| 16:25:26 | vosque | don't know enough about the platform to say |
| 16:25:59 | thekernel | nor do I, that's the problem :) |
| 16:26:26 | thekernel | Though, I am going to throw debian on it. |
| 16:26:48 | thekernel | Now to upgrade the microcode |
| 16:26:53 | thekernel | I think... |
| 16:27:26 | thekernel | wishes he had an AIX admin around to ask. |
| 16:31:10 | vosque | okay |
| 16:31:13 | vosque | gotta kick machine. |
| 16:31:14 | vosque | brb |
| 16:39:06 | thekernel | I take it the "kick" was thereputic for both you and the machine? |
| 16:41:50 | vosque | It was! |
| 16:42:08 | vosque | I am no longer in danger of destroying my file system via a 'greased-turkey' |
| 20:09:00 | thekernel | Wow, this is really dead |
| 20:13:38 | thekernel | Hey BZ |
| 20:22:16 | BZFlag | hey |
| 20:26:06 | prpplague | BZFlag: your wife ready to kill you yet for making her pack tuxscreen boxes? |
| 20:29:53 | GoRK | yeah greased-turkey sucks |
| 20:30:18 | GoRK | another great linus release :) always wait 2 weeks before installing a linus release |
| 20:30:46 | prpplague | GoRK: that depends on where its getting shoved! |
| 20:32:35 | GoRK | a turkey is kinda big |
| 20:32:45 | GoRK | at least it's greased |
| 20:34:03 | prpplague | GoRK: www.bend_over_heres_a_turkey.com |
| 22:25:00 | GPSFan | prpplague: get your Stone yet? |
| 22:27:20 | GPSFan | prpplague: according to the latest newsletter they have a new dist. in Texas. Glazer's Wholesale should have some in stores by end of Nov. |
| 22:31:38 | GoRK | what is this |
| 22:39:33 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya got some last week before i left for nassau |
| 22:40:28 | GPSFan | prpplague: there is a dist comming on line in Denver, we may be able to convince them to bring some to the Western Slope. |
| 22:40:34 | GPSFan | GoRK: BEER |
| 22:40:59 | GoRK | mmm beer. |
| 22:41:10 | | GPSFan: i'm not following you... |
| 22:41:10 | GPSFan | ibot: have some beer |
| 22:41:26 | GPSFan | too little beer that's why |
| 22:49:44 | prpplague | GPSFan: nothing a some brew from stone |
| 23:31:28 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 23:34:36 | andersee | evening |
| 23:35:00 | GoRK | evening! |
| 23:37:23 | as_ | I imagine that sep 11th thing has delayed the post somewhat. |
| 23:37:51 | andersee | Thats what I hear |
| 23:38:06 | as_ | That makes sense why I havnt got them then. |
| 23:38:21 | as_ | I'll wait a while longer before I start worrying. |