| 00:22:16 | BZFlag | new image: http://TuxScreen.net/ ;-) |
| 00:23:05 | cdm | BZFlag: No connectie. |
| 00:24:35 | cdm | BZFlag: you get my order? |
| 00:28:16 | BZFlag | cdm: eep. SF server just went down for maintainance. |
| 00:28:42 | cdm | :) |
| 00:29:16 | BZFlag | cdm: got the order, will go out tomorrow morning. |
| 00:29:22 | cdm | wicked! |
| 00:29:38 | BZFlag | has like 15 phones to prep tonight. |
| 00:30:23 | cdm | cool. |
| 00:30:33 | cdm | I think I can manager to undo the flash lock myself. |
| 00:31:36 | BZFlag | yeah, I still need to do the de-philips stuff that they required. remove logo from screen, paste over logo on keyboard, and remove inferno idiot manual. |
| 00:33:49 | Sammy | morning everyone |
| 01:02:05 | BZFlag | ltr |
| 02:37:03 | Lenolium | is heading down to pick up his tuxscreen tommorrow. |
| 02:40:45 | GPSFan | as2: check out http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/TuxScreen/tux.pdf with Tangent's help, we were able to get a better version on the net. |
| 02:42:11 | GPSFan | as2: next version probably tomorrow, with corrections & PCMCIA VCC connections. |
| 02:56:11 | | cdm was last seen on #handhelds.org 37 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: ibot: seen cworth [Tue Oct 16 03:18:52 2001] |
| 02:56:11 | BZFlag | ibot: seen cdm |
| 02:57:45 | Lenolium | BZFlag: Uhm, I'm the guy who wants to pick up those two tuxscreens tommorrow, is there any special procedure? or should I just come on down to Lineo with $200 in hand and ask for Mr Riker? |
| 03:03:55 | BZFlag | works for me. I won't be in till afternoon sometime. |
| 03:04:35 | BZFlag | cash, paypal, money order, bank draft, personal check. <- in order of preference. ;-) |
| 03:10:26 | BZFlag | Sammy: you around? I got an order from tw that only had half the shipping. wondered if it was you. |
| 03:18:21 | Lenolium | BZFlag: Cash it is. |
| 03:19:40 | BZFlag | Lenolium: "cash is good" ;-) |
| 03:21:17 | Lenolium | BZFlag: $200? or 212? (tax) |
| 03:33:00 | BZFlag | Lenolium: I have not been tracking tax, though perhaps I should. My official reply: the buyer is responsible for paying sales tax is appropriate. |
| 03:33:55 | GoRK | GPSFan: is this schematic for the 5V Hack? |
| 03:34:18 | GoRK | oh he's gone |
| 03:40:52 | Lenolium | GoRK: It looks like a schematic of the current 3.3V system (I don't see a single 5V on there), but I could be very wrong. |
| 03:41:36 | scanline | GoRK: I've got working graphics code for a framebuffer touchscreen calibrator. It implements target_init(), target_place(x,y), and target_acknowledge() |
| 04:37:49 | scanline | envisions a digital camera utility for the Tuxscreen... put a CF card in and it makes thumbnails :) |
| 04:38:52 | GoRK | scanline: dude.. digital photo frame. i am telling you |
| 04:39:10 | GoRK | put your cf card in, select the pictures you want to display, set the parameters and let it go |
| 04:39:36 | scanline | Yeah. Just needs some code to mount/unmount the flash disk, and generate thumbnails/captions |
| 04:40:03 | GoRK | dont really need to mount/unmount if you used mtools. all the digicams use fat/vfat anyway |
| 04:40:11 | scanline | that's true |
| 04:40:19 | GoRK | would make it more convenient also |
| 04:40:31 | scanline | I had tried loading pictures from my camera before, but most of the tuxscreen kernels didn't have the MSDOS partition table support |
| 04:41:11 | GoRK | wonders if mtools is thinner than vfat in the kernel |
| 04:41:31 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:41:47 | scanline | maybe just some scripting for the cardmgr to mount and unmount CF cards? |
| 04:44:01 | GoRK | hey yeah better idea |
| 05:00:46 | BZFlag | mounting cf readonly would be easier to umount. |
| 05:01:33 | BZFlag | umount -f on eject would be nice too. ;-) |
| 05:09:22 | BZFlag | mtools on x86 is 133k, modules are 55k so I'd say mtools in larger, but you might be able to shrink it my removing apps that are not needed. |
| 05:12:56 | scanline | if we can get mount working in cardmgr that would be nifty |
| 05:13:12 | scanline | you put in a CF card and can use it like a floppy disk |
| 05:16:28 | BZFlag | scanline: v0.3, v0.4 and buildroot should all have vfat and msdos partitions. |
| 05:16:53 | scanline | I was using the nanox kernel (for the backlight patch) and it didn't have msdos partitions |
| 05:17:24 | BZFlag | well, buildroot-tux kernel should have vfat, msdospart and bl now. |
| 05:18:20 | scanline | I was using the nanox kernel (for the backlight patch) and it didn't have msdos partitions |
| 05:18:29 | scanline | err... accidental up arrow |
| 05:19:11 | BZFlag | err... accidental up arrow <- accidental cut and paste. ;-) |
| 05:19:49 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:19:50 | BZFlag | admits his was not really accidental |
| 05:19:58 | scanline | Really???? |
| 05:20:01 | BZFlag | heh |
| 05:23:46 | GoRK | hmm yeah the math in tuxcal doesnt work |
| 05:24:01 | scanline | what broke it? |
| 05:24:29 | GoRK | nothing it never worked. the closer the data points are to the corners of the display, the better it appears to work |
| 05:24:55 | scanline | ah |
| 05:25:28 | GoRK | it may just be this integer math |
| 05:25:31 | scanline | it just uses the two target values as min and max, not accounting for them being some distance away from the corners? |
| 05:26:04 | GoRK | let me use floats and see what happens |
| 05:26:41 | scanline | but the libm bugs? |
| 05:26:49 | scanline | should be easy to do it with integer math |
| 05:26:51 | GoRK | heh not using libm |
| 05:26:57 | GoRK | just using floats and basic math |
| 05:27:31 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:27:52 | scanline | GoRK: If you're not using the animation, maybe you can also delete the code to save the screen behind the target |
| 05:28:15 | scanline | so it would display a target, you click it, it changes to the 'acknowledged' bitmap and draws another target without clearing the first one |
| 05:37:36 | GoRK | hrm |
| 05:38:04 | scanline | I think that fbvideo.c is pretty bare-bones as it is, but you might be able to trim target.c down a bit |
| 05:38:24 | scanline | well, maybe you could take out some of the error handling in bmp_load() |
| 05:38:26 | GoRK | this math is just not right.. |
| 05:38:37 | scanline | gets a yellow sticky pad... |
| 05:38:59 | GoRK | you have to go about this a completely different way to do it all with ints |
| 05:39:06 | GoRK | a = abs(tsPoint[1].data_x - tsPoint[0].data_x); |
| 05:39:12 | GoRK | b = abs(tsPoint[1].draw_x - tsPoint[0].draw_x); |
| 05:39:18 | GoRK | deltax = a / b; |
| 05:39:28 | GoRK | all vars are ints... that's going to return either 1 or 0 every time |
| 05:39:50 | GoRK | no .. it's going to return 1 every time |
| 05:40:25 | scanline | so make it fixed point- shift 'a' left 16 bits |
| 05:40:46 | scanline | or... |
| 05:40:49 | scanline | where is deltax used? |
| 05:43:02 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:43:12 | scanline | IRC is so reliable! |
| 05:51:41 | scanline | has better math to show GoRK when he reappears... |
| 05:59:27 | scanline | ooh. The picture on tuxscreen.net grew |
| 06:05:29 | BZFlag | heh. someone noticed. ;-) |
| 06:07:41 | BZFlag | scanline: better or worse that way? |
| 06:08:11 | scanline | I like it better |
| 06:08:20 | scanline | of course I've got a really fast 'net connection :) |
| 06:12:35 | BZFlag | I kept getting emails now and then that asked if there was a keyboard that worked with the tux. ;-) |
| 06:13:09 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:13:23 | scanline | the wireless keyboard is definitely a selling point |
| 06:13:35 | BZFlag | til you use it. ;-) |
| 06:13:55 | scanline | eh, it's not bad |
| 06:14:01 | BZFlag | would rather have a pull out wired keyboard. |
| 06:14:21 | scanline | I'm sure the wireless keyboard is so they could sell it separately |
| 06:14:28 | scanline | or to make wall mounting easier |
| 06:14:39 | BZFlag | that's true. |
| 06:17:28 | BZFlag | http://habcom.com/touchcom/touchcom.htm |
| 06:18:55 | BZFlag | or, now: http://TuxScreen.net/img/habphon1.jpg |
| 06:18:57 | scanline | I saw that... |
| 06:19:05 | scanline | so that was your excuse to get 1000 tuxscreens? |
| 06:19:27 | scanline | is that a floppy disk drive on the right side in http://www.habcom.com/touchcom/images/habphon1.jpg |
| 06:20:05 | BZFlag | that's a pen in a holder. ;-) |
| 06:20:10 | scanline | oh :) |
| 06:20:17 | scanline | is less scared now |
| 06:20:50 | BZFlag | thought the same thing the first time he say the picture. |
| 06:21:01 | BZFlag | s/say/saw/ |
| 06:21:01 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:23:24 | scanline | Aha! |
| 06:23:27 | scanline | Hi GoRK |
| 06:23:30 | scanline | I have better math for you |
| 06:23:40 | scanline | was about to show you when you disconnected |
| 06:24:46 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:51:31 | scanline | pokes GoRK... |
| 10:49:09 | DrXenon | morning |
| 11:16:31 | Arc_Tangnet | ack... keyboard death... time for reboot. |
| 11:39:21 | Icarus321 | hello? |
| 11:39:39 | Tangent | Icarus321 : Hi |
| 11:39:48 | Icarus321 | Howdy |
| 11:40:01 | Icarus321 | How's things? |
| 11:41:00 | Tangent | Obviously not fast enough for you |
| 11:41:03 | Tangent | :D |
| 11:58:29 | RedBaron | Morning all |
| 11:58:55 | RedBaron | Tangent: Come on man. Speed it up some. :P |
| 11:59:10 | RedBaron | Tangent: *grin* |
| 11:59:17 | Tangent | RedBaron : What.. you want fast and no typos? |
| 11:59:51 | RedBaron | Tangent: *chuckle* Nah..typos only matter when playing a MUD and your life depends on typing the command fast, and correctly. |
| 12:01:46 | RedBaron | Tangent: So did you get your buildroot working? |
| 12:02:46 | Tangent | RedBaron : Nope.. I pulled down the toolchain you're using, but got exactly the same problem (I think I waas already on that toolchin anyhow) |
| 12:03:06 | Tangent | RedBaron : I just flashed the 0.4 stuff in the end, and went back to coding ASM for my PIC board |
| 12:03:31 | RedBaron | Tangent: Okie. Rather weird. What kernel and linux dist are you using? |
| 12:04:31 | RedBaron | Tangent: Actualy...I'm not sure if the kernel in /usr/src/linux matters for includes. The toolchain said something about dinking with that, but it worked for me without touching that part. |
| 12:05:10 | Tangent | RedBaron : Debian... still on 2.4.5-ac17 (don't want to reboot) |
| 12:07:58 | RedBaron | Tangent: *nod* I was more meaning the header files located in the kernel source. Not the currently running kernel. If it helps you any I built mine on a redhat 6.2 box running 2.4.5. |
| 12:08:19 | Tangent | RedBaron : buildroot pulls down it's own kernel source |
| 12:09:51 | RedBaron | Tangent: Yah. But for compiling the applications the toolchain might be using /usr/include which has links to /usr/src/linux/include which would have nothing to do with the kernel that the buildroot downloads. |
| 12:10:02 | RedBaron | Tangent: Not sure what it does. didnt look that close since it just worked for me. |
| 12:10:15 | Tangent | RedBaron : THanks, I'll check it out... |
| 12:10:30 | RedBaron | Tangent: sure |
| 12:11:03 | Tangent | RedBaron : I could always compile the kernel by hand... I'm not that rushed on Tux side yet... gotta get my PICboard working first before I need Tux to be useable |
| 12:11:07 | Tangent | brb |
| 12:12:03 | RedBaron | Tangent: Whats your PIC board for? |
| 12:17:32 | Tangent | RedBaron : I've been building lots of Automation into my new office... Lights, Fans, Aircon etc... |
| 12:17:49 | Tangent | RedBaron : At the moment, it requires 2xserial +1xparallel ports to control it... |
| 12:18:12 | Tangent | RedBaron : So I built a board with a couple of PICs on so that I can control it with just 1 serial port (i.e. Tux) |
| 12:18:37 | Tangent | RedBaron : Looks like this right now... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/piccies/NewOffice/OfficeControl.jpg |
| 12:18:53 | Tangent | RedBaron : Oh.. and erm.. This... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/piccies/NewOffice/9.jpg |
| 12:19:09 | Tangent | and this... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/piccies/NewOffice/14.jpg |
| 12:20:15 | RedBaron | Tangent: Cool. |
| 12:20:44 | RedBaron | Tangent: Hey...I see a tux in the background there. hehe. |
| 12:21:08 | Tangent | RedBaron : Yeah.. one of my two Tuxes... That one's still got inferno on it |
| 12:21:15 | RedBaron | Tangent: *nod* |
| 12:21:48 | Tangent | PICBoard is at the annoying stage where every individual bit now works, and I just need to write a load of code for comms now |
| 12:22:28 | RedBaron | Tangent: Cool that the hardware works. |
| 12:23:01 | Tangent | RedBaron : Yeah.. considering it's the first PCB I've made in 7 years (and the last one I made didn't work).. I was impressed too :) |
| 12:23:55 | RedBaron | Tangent: *chuckle* |
| 12:33:59 | RedBaron | Dead_Tangent: Dead? |
| 12:34:32 | Dead_Tangent | RedBaron : Yeah.. this keyboard is dying... |
| 12:34:39 | Dead_Tangent | RedBaron : Machine needs a power cycle |
| 12:34:44 | RedBaron | Dead_Tangent: Ah. I see |
| 12:34:44 | Tangent | But I'm here now instead |
| 12:36:04 | Tangent | Hrm.. what an apt quit message |
| 12:37:20 | RedBaron | Tangent: heh |
| 12:39:57 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 12:40:15 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 12:43:02 | RedBaron | Arc_Tangnet: And yet again? :) |
| 12:46:06 | Arc_Tangnet | RedBaron : Keyboard working on this machine now :) |
| 12:47:07 | RedBaron | Arc_Tangnet: *chuckle* |
| 12:47:24 | RedBaron | Urf. I love making up for crappy hardware with software. |
| 12:48:08 | Tangent_ | RedBaron : That's what lets people like me design PCBs :) |
| 12:49:04 | RedBaron | Tangent_: Hehe. The problem with this piece of hardware is that the guy didnt do his PIC correct. So I get to do all sorts of corrections his PIC should have done. And I cant do it as well as his PIC could have done since I get virtualy no information back from his PIC. |
| 12:49:36 | Tangent_ | RedBaron : Reprogram the PIC :) |
| 12:50:16 | GPSFan | Tangent: / Tangent_: Morning, a new rev of the schematic is on its way to you. |
| 12:51:02 | RedBaron | Tangent_: *chuckle* Dont have any PIC programming hardware here. This piece of hardware is from a 3rd party guy who did it for the company i work for. And he doesnt care enough to do it right. |
| 12:54:36 | Tangent_ | GPSFan : Thanks... |
| 12:56:48 | GPSFan | Tangent: looks like I should have most of the main board mapped out by the end of the week. |
| 12:57:13 | Tangent_ | GPSFan : You're doing a worthy job... Thanks :) |
| 12:57:24 | ctr | Tangent: whats he doing? |
| 12:57:39 | Tangent_ | ctr : Schematics for PCMCIA sockets |
| 12:58:00 | ctr | oic :) |
| 13:00:34 | Tangent_ | GPSFan : Latest version up as a PDF... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/TuxScreen/tux.pdf |
| 13:00:34 | RedBaron | GPSFan: Mighty cool GPSFan |
| 13:01:34 | RedBaron | CosmicPenguin: Howdy |
| 13:01:52 | GPSFan | Thanks, hopefully I won't get too bogged down with "work", another StrongARM project SA1110 &SA1111 |
| 13:02:02 | Tangent_ | GPSFan : Schematic is looking real good |
| 13:02:12 | CosmicPenguin | RedBaron: Hi |
| 13:05:20 | CosmicPenguin | SpaceCoaster: You awake this morning? |
| 13:06:47 | ctr | ok |
| 13:07:02 | ctr | that is really cool with the LPP |
| 13:07:34 | ctr | hrmm |
| 13:07:45 | ctr | but i dont like PicoGUI all that much |
| 13:08:00 | ctr | although i suppose it'll be better once the touch screen colaboration stuff works |
| 13:23:09 | cworth | morning all |
| 13:23:19 | Tangent_ | cworth : Morning |
| 13:23:27 | SpaceCoaster | CosmicPenguin: hi ya |
| 13:36:43 | cworth | needs more memory... looking over wiki/view/sodimm. |
| 15:18:59 | scanline | is away: zzzzzz |
| 16:05:57 | cworth | BZFlag: hello |
| 16:06:32 | mallum | cworth: hi, xkbd is nearly done :) |
| 16:07:00 | cworth | mallum: great, I'm looking forward to it. |
| 16:07:12 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: same here.... :) |
| 16:07:32 | cworth | mallum: I'll have to write a new docking program that controls both xstroke and xkbd. |
| 16:10:17 | mallum | cworth: yes, xkbd will respond to sigusrs to unmap / map itself |
| 16:10:50 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Does it use "RENDER"? |
| 16:10:57 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 16:11:07 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: though you can compile it without |
| 16:11:19 | cworth | mallum: ah, OK. |
| 16:11:36 | sammy | Night all ... |
| 16:11:43 | sammy | ZZZ |
| 16:11:43 | mallum | also I got a few problems with it sending international characters |
| 16:11:48 | cworth | mallum: oh, you beat me on two counts then. :) (you can enable/disable externally and you can compile without render). |
| 16:12:19 | mallum | cworth: hmmm, I think xstroke is a little more advanced than xkbd ! |
| 16:12:30 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I really, really, really wish we had alpha blending in MW... I love the way xstroke works... |
| 16:12:57 | mallum | I ordered a strong Arm atx board today |
| 16:13:09 | mallum | s/atx/ATX/ |
| 16:13:17 | mallum | via www.simtec.co.uk |
| 16:13:24 | AlHazWork | mallum: an integrator? |
| 16:13:29 | AlHazWork | oh, er, that'd be a different board |
| 16:13:33 | cworth | mallum: I suppose. :) Multiple recognition backends should be released in the next day or two. |
| 16:13:53 | mallum | cworth: I bunked work today to get most of xkbd fixed |
| 16:14:13 | mallum | cworth: its should be ready soon |
| 16:14:26 | cworth | mallum: wish I could, (big demo in November). In the meantime, I just get up a couple hours early each morning. |
| 16:14:28 | mallum | cworth: mind you I havn't tested it on the ipaq yet ! |
| 16:14:55 | mallum | cworth: work is very tedious at the moment unfortunatly :( |
| 16:16:33 | mallum | anyway with that above mentioned motherboard I should be able to build a nice ARM compile box with plenty of ram / diskspace |
| 16:22:50 | cworth | mallum: that'll be nice. Meantime, I'm just using the cross-compiler. It's actually pain-free, (after you have a working X source tree). I just drop programs into xc/programs and away I go. |
| 16:25:52 | mallum | cworth: yes to be honest I'll not had a lot of luck X-compiling my X source tree ... could I see your hosts.def file ? |
| 16:26:42 | GoRK | btw to anyone who was looking/waiting for one or whatever, a framebuffer-based calibrator is nearly done |
| 16:28:33 | AlHazWork | Cool |
| 16:29:02 | mallum | excellent |
| 16:29:17 | AlHazWork | I realized, after the whole "bmp is evil" conversation, that on jffs2 it'll be zlib compressed anyway |
| 16:29:58 | GoRK | all that's left to do is replace the math from the nano-x calibrator (it doesnt work properly with int's -- thats why the micro-x calibration is aloways a little off in the corners) and take out the frivilous animation code (no need to have the targets fly around the LCD) |
| 16:31:07 | cworth | GoRK: excellent. One Derek Mulcahy also sent me email with an FB-based calibrator he's been wokring on, (haven't looked at it yet). |
| 16:31:30 | GoRK | AlHaz: well it's also already been implemented with gzip too, we're talking like 5KB for background+2 target bmp's.. i dont really like it either but it's all good... I personally think the graphics should be compiled into the binary and use some simple RLE type of compression |
| 16:31:59 | GoRK | cworth: yeah he wrote me too and said he was working on one but he never pointed me to the code.. |
| 16:32:33 | cworth | Gor |
| 16:32:51 | cworth | GoRK: I've got an attachment he sent if you're interested. Maybe it's moot though. |
| 16:33:03 | GoRK | sure i'd be interested in the math |
| 16:33:12 | GoRK | the nano-x thing busts |
| 16:33:26 | GoRK | basically it looks like it works because the targets are so close to the screen corners |
| 16:34:17 | cworth | GoRK: right, the X thing I put together, (based on the MW calibrator), is never quite accurate. I've never even looked at the math. |
| 16:38:19 | cworth | GorK: what's your email? |
| 16:38:20 | GoRK | cworth: johnl@blurbco.com |
| 16:38:20 | GoRK | cworth: the reason is because when it calculates deltax and deltay (they have to be ints) they always come out to '1' |
| 17:10:22 | pattieja | is away: lunch |
| 17:39:36 | prpplague | well this dlink 802.11 cf card is recognized in my yopy under cardmgr ,but she no worky-worky |
| 17:49:04 | AlHazWork | Hmm |
| 17:49:36 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:39:12) |
| 17:51:54 | BZFlag | cf cards all are both 3.3v and 5v so they should work on the tux |
| 17:52:46 | prpplague | BZFlag: ya this one is 3.3v only according to the specs, but i've not tried it in the tuxscreen yet |
| 17:53:43 | BZFlag | prpplague: hmm. the cf spec says all cards are required to be both 3.3 and 5v |
| 17:54:11 | cworth | BZFlag: greetings. I'm confused by the SODIMM page. How much memory has worked? 8 + 16? or only 8 + 8? |
| 17:54:23 | BZFlag | perhaps it's not compliant, or perhaps someone grew a brain and decided that was a silly thing to require. |
| 17:54:43 | BZFlag | 8 or 8+8 works under linux. |
| 17:54:55 | BZFlag | 8+32 works under inferno |
| 17:54:58 | GoRK | cworth 8+16 and i think 8+32 have worked in inverno |
| 17:55:04 | cworth | BZFlag: Ah, OK. |
| 17:55:15 | BZFlag | don't know any that have tested 8+16, but that should also work under inferno. |
| 17:55:25 | cworth | BZFlag: so, what's involved in making more work under Linux? |
| 17:55:33 | GoRK | cworth: blob |
| 17:55:41 | BZFlag | I have 8, 32, and 64 here, but have not done any debugging yet. |
| 17:55:48 | cworth | is itching for more memory as too many X apps running at once seems to exhaust things. |
| 17:55:54 | BZFlag | yeah, fixing blob should be all. |
| 17:56:20 | BZFlag | you could run the X apps on another machine and display them locally. ;-) |
| 17:57:21 | cworth | BZFlag: that's what I *am* doing. :) But with X there is a lot of allocation in the server, (pixmaps, etc). |
| 18:00:04 | cworth | BZFlag: OK, so is anyone looking into this or shall I start cracking open the blob source myself? |
| 18:01:46 | Lenolium | BZFlag: I'm going to be heading down to Lineo soon. |
| 18:01:59 | BZFlag | Lenolium: I'm not there yet. |
| 18:02:08 | cworth | BZFlag: Oh, one other question. The X server doesn't work if I start it from init or from a console login. But it always work if I start it from a serial login. Any ideas why? (The workings of console within Linux are still a bit of a mystery to me). |
| 18:02:31 | Lenolium | BZFlag: Ahh.. -k-. I'll wait then. When do you think you will be there? (Or should I just run by your house instead?) |
| 18:03:32 | BZFlag | cworth: nobody is doing it yet, but there are other new features in blob now that need testing too. |
| 18:03:58 | BZFlag | should start with the latest in cvs. erikm just added partitioning support etc. |
| 18:04:04 | ctr | BZFlag: what features? anything interesting? |
| 18:04:07 | BZFlag | Lenolium: about an hour. |
| 18:04:35 | BZFlag | ctr: tftp is being worked on and nfsboot of ne2k cards should be there soon. |
| 18:04:58 | cworth | BZFlag: OK, maybe I'll look. But I probably won't have a chance until about a month from now, *sigh*. |
| 18:05:16 | ctr | BZFlag: cool, so we can do a proper nfs root? |
| 18:05:17 | BZFlag | might even be possible soon to have a dualboot phone. inferno in flash and linux off the net. ;-) |
| 18:05:26 | ctr | BZFlag: ehehe |
| 18:06:11 | BZFlag | yep, tftp code will support loading kernel and initrd from the net and booting over an ne2k card. |
| 18:06:20 | BZFlag | not yet though... soon we hope. |
| 18:07:10 | BZFlag | well, off to work... an hour ok Lenolium ? ;-) |
| 18:30:25 | prpplague | hmm, this seems to be the web site for me today www.verizonreallysucks.com |
| 18:31:36 | ctr | prpplague: heh |
| 18:35:29 | SpaceCoaster | cworth: for starting the X server from init I had to specify the tty as null, otherwise it went wacky |
| 18:37:12 | GoRK | SpaceCoaster: i put the framebuffer based calibrator i assembled from all these projects going on (tuxcal, your tuxctl, and scanline's gfx code) |
| 18:37:20 | GoRK | onto the tuxscreen cvs |
| 18:37:38 | GoRK | it's in the module 'fbtuxcal' http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tuxscreen/fbtuxcal/ |
| 18:37:41 | CosmicPenguin | Hopefully, you used SpaceCoaster's math.... |
| 18:38:08 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: yes i did |
| 18:39:31 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: i used your program structure, his math and scanlines gfx. it's a real frankenstein app but it is at least a good place for all of us to work now.. it is still maybe a little heavy with the BMP's but that can go away at some point.. plus it is easy to change a few files to change the look of the app |
| 18:40:00 | GoRK | the makefile sucks too, but you can blame scanline for that also heh |
| 18:40:20 | cworth | GoR |
| 18:40:27 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: Cool. Did you keep the part that saved the data to the file, but also added your environment variables? |
| 18:40:34 | cworth | GoRK: so, do we have this in a CVS server anywhere yet? |
| 18:40:56 | SpaceCoaster | GoRK: does it work? |
| 18:41:19 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: no it doesnt set env var's yet. I think actually that spacecoaster's file format is a little nicer too. but currently it uses your file saving code |
| 18:41:38 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: Cool..... by all means, change it up. This is a community affair.... |
| 18:41:49 | GoRK | cworth: yeah it's the module called fbtuxcal in cvs.tuxscreen.sf.net:/cvsroot/tuxscreen |
| 18:42:07 | cworth | GoRK: ah, very nice. Thanks. |
| 18:42:21 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: i will but i dont have a lot of time right now. i have to go do some $ work :) |
| 18:42:22 | cworth | GoRK: what's it take to get write access there? |
| 18:44:47 | prpplague | is it me or did the tuxscreen pic on the tuxscreen.net site get bigger? |
| 18:45:13 | SpaceCoaster | yeah, made be jump when it leaped out like that |
| 18:45:23 | GoRK | it's new. bzflag changed it |
| 18:48:09 | GoRK | ok gotta go |
| 18:48:20 | cworth | GoRK: bye now. |
| 18:48:32 | GoRK | later |
| 18:52:14 | ctr | wb BZFlag |
| 19:03:49 | BZFlag | nods and grins . o O ( Everybody goes to work sometime ) |
| 19:03:56 | ctr | heh |
| 19:04:31 | ctr | i am trying to get include() working in ferite |
| 19:10:19 | BZFlag | adds cworth to the SF project. |
| 19:10:31 | BZFlag | thinks SF people should rank each other. ;-) |
| 19:11:14 | SpaceCoaster | BZFlag: how do I earn points, can I be added too? |
| 19:11:38 | BZFlag | SpaceCoaster: SF account name? |
| 19:11:55 | ctr | hrmm |
| 19:11:59 | ctr | how can i get added =P |
| 19:12:34 | BZFlag | bring me your poor and tired.... er, well your SF account names anyway. ;-) |
| 19:12:56 | SpaceCoaster | SPaceCoaster, what else? |
| 19:13:11 | ctr | boris |
| 19:13:12 | ctr | :) |
| 19:13:23 | SpaceCoaster | SpaceCoaster, tho I don't think case matters? |
| 19:13:31 | ctr | well |
| 19:13:34 | ctr | i'm just boris :) |
| 19:13:42 | ctr | BZFlag: how often is cvs commited to? |
| 19:14:58 | BZFlag | SpaceCoaster: added. you now have cvs commit permissions, don't break anything. things that are in test should be sumbitted as patches in the SF patch database. |
| 19:15:56 | SpaceCoaster | thanks |
| 19:16:03 | BZFlag | ctr: you're added too. |
| 19:16:25 | BZFlag | now, rank each other. ;-) |
| 19:16:28 | ctr | BZFlag: mind if i setup a cvs commits list? |
| 19:17:04 | BZFlag | ctr: you'd need admin to create the list, I'll do that piece. |
| 19:17:35 | BZFlag | adding tuxscreen-cvs ok? |
| 19:17:41 | ctr | sure |
| 19:17:47 | ctr | do i have cvs access? |
| 19:17:54 | BZFlag | now, yes. |
| 19:18:02 | ctr | excellent |
| 19:18:11 | ctr | i shall sort that out first thing tomoroow |
| 19:18:15 | ctr | once the list is active |
| 19:18:26 | BZFlag | gack... won't take -cvs to short. |
| 19:18:32 | ctr | uhm |
| 19:18:34 | ctr | do |
| 19:18:36 | BZFlag | -commit? -cvscommit? |
| 19:18:37 | ctr | cvs-commits |
| 19:18:42 | ctr | -commits |
| 19:18:49 | BZFlag | first part must be tuxscreen- |
| 19:18:54 | ctr | yeah |
| 19:18:58 | ctr | tuxscreen-commits |
| 19:18:59 | BZFlag | commits sounds good. |
| 19:19:53 | ctr | ah ha |
| 19:19:55 | ctr | crap |
| 19:19:56 | ctr | hrmm |
| 19:20:00 | ctr | i have found the bug |
| 19:20:05 | ctr | never ending loop |
| 19:20:07 | ctr | fun |
| 19:21:13 | ctr | BZFlag: ever heard of SmoothWall ? |
| 19:21:45 | BZFlag | nope, just cubicles here. ;-) |
| 19:22:01 | ctr | hehee |
| 19:22:07 | ctr | well it's a firewall distribution |
| 19:22:11 | ctr | that i have strong ties with |
| 19:22:23 | ctr | I am going to try and port it over to tuxscreen |
| 19:22:44 | ctr | so that your house hold phone can also act as your home networks firewall :) |
| 19:23:31 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Does it use iptables, or does it grow its own? |
| 19:23:47 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: it uses a whole host of different stuff |
| 19:24:07 | ctr | i'm currently running it on a p200 w 32mb ram |
| 19:24:16 | BZFlag | that would need 2 ethernet cards in the same phone, no? that would be tough. |
| 19:24:27 | ctr | well |
| 19:24:38 | ctr | i was thinking that i could plug a modem up to the serial line |
| 19:25:00 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: mostly propriatary stuff, or is it all open source? |
| 19:25:09 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: fully open source and GPL'd |
| 19:25:15 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: http://www.smoothwall.org |
| 19:25:32 | BZFlag | ctr: ah, that would work, yes. |
| 19:25:40 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: can work with modem, isdn, dual channel isdn, asdl, cable |
| 19:25:51 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: has over 450,000 active installed |
| 19:26:19 | BZFlag | adsl/cable would need multiple ethernets though. |
| 19:26:37 | ctr | yeah |
| 19:26:51 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: bluetooth? |
| 19:27:04 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Is it all in house development, or did you use outside packages? |
| 19:27:19 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: it's all done using existing tools |
| 19:27:31 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: it's just a higly tuned and polished linux firewall distribution |
| 19:27:45 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: the iso is 20megs, but it has a complete secure web interface |
| 19:27:57 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: it does IPsec VPN, transparent web proxying |
| 19:28:01 | ctr | IDS |
| 19:28:09 | CosmicPenguin | NAT? |
| 19:28:13 | cory | heh |
| 19:28:14 | CosmicPenguin | I would assume... |
| 19:28:15 | ctr | yep |
| 19:28:17 | cory | that's pretty sexy |
| 19:28:23 | CosmicPenguin | Kewl! |
| 19:28:27 | ctr | bbiab |
| 19:28:43 | CosmicPenguin | Does it have an DHCP server for the local network? |
| 19:28:50 | CosmicPenguin | Damn... |
| 19:29:09 | cory | I'm sure it does |
| 19:29:23 | cory | if it has freakin IDS capability, you'd think they would have done DHCP first :) |
| 19:29:42 | CosmicPenguin | cory: Yep, it does.... |
| 19:29:52 | CosmicPenguin | But it doesn't do bluetooth.... :( |
| 19:30:06 | cory | ah.. but it's open source |
| 19:30:40 | CosmicPenguin | cory: Yeah, but you know how that is..... open source or not, how many people are going to take it upon them selves to add a whole new stack to an unfamiliar distro? |
| 19:30:48 | mallum | ctr: apparently the guy thats run smoothwall is a but of a nutter |
| 19:31:25 | CosmicPenguin | Then again, anyone who chooses to use bluetooth in the first place likes pain anyway.... |
| 19:31:27 | cory | shrugs |
| 19:31:31 | cory | I like the word nutter |
| 19:31:44 | mallum | ctr: there was a big thread about him on the gllug mailing list |
| 19:32:29 | CosmicPenguin | Is nutter in a good way or in a bad way? |
| 19:32:57 | mallum | I use rcf [ http://rcf.mvlan.net/ ] |
| 19:33:10 | mallum | either |
| 19:33:18 | RedBaron | Arggh. Bloody AT&T cablemodem service dropped their route to like half the world. Couldnt get to my home box for most of the day. |
| 19:33:24 | mallum | just someone who's alittle crazed |
| 19:33:32 | mallum | RedBaron: my cablemodem is f**cked too |
| 19:34:12 | RedBaron | mallum: Fun. I run a client on my own box at home. But it never lost connection to the couple of places I talk on. But I couldnt get to home from work. whee |
| 19:34:44 | BZFlag | ctr that web page is almost completely unreadable. |
| 19:38:50 | RedBaron | grumbles about the damn phone companies. |
| 19:39:14 | cworth | BZFlag: much thanks. |
| 19:40:51 | BZFlag | cworth: no prob. ;-) |
| 19:41:19 | BZFlag | Lenolium: oh, and I'm in the office. ;-) |
| 19:48:54 | ctr | sorry bout that |
| 19:49:02 | ctr | house mate wanted to use *my* phoneline |
| 19:49:21 | mallum | fight ! |
| 20:03:40 | cworth | later all |
| 20:21:18 | mallum | hi andersee |
| 20:27:42 | andersee | hey |
| 20:28:51 | mallum | will you hit me if I ask about libm ..... ? |
| 20:29:31 | andersee | probably -- I've been up to my gills with work, and havn't had a chance to look at that yet.... |
| 20:29:45 | andersee | I'm open to patches though |
| 20:30:21 | mallum | ok I've nearly finished xkbd now so I could have a look soon |
| 20:30:36 | mallum | though its probably beyond me |
| 20:33:25 | mallum | yes it looks pretty scary |
| 20:33:52 | mallum | andersee: do you know what bits are actually broke, or is it a case of look for anything that uses unions ? |
| 20:37:46 | andersee | mallum: basically, yes -- stuff using unions is broken. It needs to cope with the arm float byte order, which is a pretty wierd one.... |
| 20:59:23 | AlHazWork | so is buildroot-tux including the codec reset patch and console blanking and brightness/contrast patches yet? |
| 21:00:10 | signal11 | does utah have a good computer surplus store? i need to find one of those loud IBM keyboards |
| 21:00:37 | AlHazWork | signal11: I don't know much about salt lake city, down in orem/provo you can go to ARC |
| 21:00:40 | AlHazWork | or just dig around DI |
| 21:00:57 | signal11 | i'm not familiar with those acronyms |
| 21:01:05 | signal11 | but i'll make the drive |
| 21:01:07 | AlHazWork | I've got a nice heavy type M here . . . |
| 21:01:12 | AlHazWork | signal: you're in SLC? |
| 21:01:15 | signal11 | yes |
| 21:01:25 | AlHazWork | andersee might know where to go . . . |
| 21:01:29 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: He works with me... :) |
| 21:01:34 | AlHazWork | there are probably better places in SLC Than in orem |
| 21:01:40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: latest xkbd -> http://mallum.com/img/xkbd.png |
| 21:01:40 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: Computer rennisance? (spelling) |
| 21:01:49 | AlHazWork | yeah, i've heard of them |
| 21:01:56 | signal11 | cosmicpenguin ah good idea |
| 21:02:00 | AlHazWork | weilds his IBM model M keyboard defensively |
| 21:02:14 | signal11 | yeah, mine is getting ready to go |
| 21:02:36 | AlHazWork | (I don't actually type on the thing, I like the new lexmark keyboards better) |
| 21:02:39 | signal11 | it was dropped and is bent. i had to take some of the key caps off to make it work |
| 21:02:49 | AlHazWork | why not just bend it back? |
| 21:03:01 | signal11 | heh. after i get a replacement maybe I'll try |
| 21:03:22 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Rock on! Will it be ready when i get back from vacation on monday? |
| 21:03:35 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah its just about ready now |
| 21:05:02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: weights in at 24k |
| 21:05:19 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Cool! |
| 21:20:13 | prpplague | mallum: hey looking good, what about config options? support F keys, and you add/remove keys? |
| 21:20:55 | prpplague | oops |
| 21:21:06 | prpplague | didn't see malllum left |
| 21:21:28 | Lenolium | signal11: The UofU has a reclamation store that you are almost guaranteed to find one of those things. |
| 21:21:29 | scanline | is back (gone 06:02:30) |
| 21:23:29 | AlHazWork | geesh, buildroot-tux still hasn't been updated to allow one to compile mkfs.jffs2 w/ egcs-2.91.66? |
| 21:24:15 | signal11 | lenolium ah, i'm going to the U tonight. |
| 21:24:27 | signal11 | is this a regular walk-in store or should I try to contact them? |
| 21:24:29 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: Whats at the U? |
| 21:24:42 | signal11 | actually tennis at the jcc |
| 21:24:45 | signal11 | right next to it |
| 21:24:50 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh..... |
| 21:30:57 | | GoRK was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 hours, 42 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: later [Tue Oct 16 19:48:32 2001] |
| 21:30:57 | scanline | ibot: seen GoRK |
| 21:41:07 | andersee | AlHazWork: 'cvs up Makefile' I bumped up the mtd snapshot date to one that should work -- even with broken cpp. |
| 21:43:05 | AlHazWork | ok, seems to be working |
| 21:45:37 | andersee | I had fixed that bug weeks ago in the mtd tree... |
| 21:45:46 | AlHazWork | yeah, I thought so, that's why i was surprised |
| 21:54:39 | BZFlag | back soon |
| 22:08:52 | AlHazWork | hmm, fbtuxcal doesn't do anything here |
| 22:09:03 | AlHazWork | except render the console unusable |
| 22:09:14 | ctr | is away: going for a number 1 |
| 22:09:33 | Tangent | ctr: That's more detail than I wanted to know |
| 22:10:35 | ctr | is back (gone 00:01:28) |
| 22:11:01 | ctr | mwhahah |
| 22:11:02 | ctr | :) |
| 22:11:58 | scanline | AlHazWork: I just tried fbtuxcal a few minutes ago. it works for me |
| 22:12:47 | AlHazWork | scanline: didn't have the bmps on the filesystem |
| 22:12:53 | AlHazWork | oughta be in the readme |
| 22:12:58 | scanline | yeah |
| 22:13:00 | AlHazWork | why are they gzipped? jffs2 is gzipped . . . |
| 22:13:16 | scanline | uhh... it's a kludge ;) |
| 22:13:35 | scanline | but yeah, I guess the gzipping isn't necessary then |
| 22:13:43 | AlHazWork | the big red LED flashing is pretty impressive |
| 22:14:05 | scanline | You'll have to bug GoRK about that, I don't have CVS access |
| 22:14:38 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: Hehe.... SpaceCoaster is reseting the DSP, and that makes the LED flash.... :) |
| 22:17:06 | AlHazWork | CosmicPenguin: Yeah, it's awfully impressive :) |
| 22:17:45 | scanline | discovers that Scribble Pad is much nicer when the touchscreen is calibrated correctly |
| 22:22:35 | ctr | is away: bbiab - flat mate is home |
| 22:27:57 | CosmicPenguin | Alrighty, its as ready as it will ever be..... |
| 22:28:16 | CosmicPenguin | First draft of what can only, for the purpose of dicussion, be called a DSP spec is at |
| 22:28:23 | CosmicPenguin | http://cosmic.censoft.com/dspspec.html |
| 22:30:29 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: can we do dtmf stuff yet? |
| 22:31:15 | CosmicPenguin | We need an SPI driver, tthen we're there.... |
| 22:33:17 | GoRK | oooo dsp? |
| 22:34:02 | scanline | Are it's sound capabilities limited to those 10 predefined beeps? |
| 22:34:54 | GoRK | jffs2 confuses me |
| 22:35:04 | GoRK | does the 'df' command not really work on jffs2? |
| 22:35:33 | AlHazWork | huh, fbtuxcal resets the orientation of my tuxscreen |
| 22:35:37 | GoRK | i know i have 3mb of flash to put the fs in but df reports the physical bytes used or somethign? |
| 22:35:43 | AlHazWork | which is bad, 'cause my touchscreen needs to be flipped to work |
| 22:35:49 | AlHazWork | well, to work right-way-around |
| 22:35:53 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: I think the du on JFFS2 is the compressed value |
| 22:36:12 | GoRK | AlHaz: yeah spacecoaster's logic to determine whether or not the screen is flipped is broken. |
| 22:36:48 | AlHazWork | GoRK: I tried running flip before fbtuxcal, doesn't do anything for me |
| 22:37:25 | GoRK | AlHaz: tuxcal determines if flip needs to happen. but that determination is broken. |
| 22:37:26 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: My logic should work for that |
| 22:37:35 | AlHazWork | GoRK: Yup |
| 22:37:36 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: yeah i'm going to replace it this evening |
| 22:37:39 | AlHazWork | well, it may work better at home |
| 22:37:55 | AlHazWork | where the tuxscreen is right-side-up |
| 22:38:07 | scanline | fbtuxcal also needs to take an additional reading to verify the calibration is good, and repeat if necessary |
| 22:38:14 | GoRK | nobody with units that required flipping was around when i was testing it :) |
| 22:38:42 | AlHazWork | scanline: Definately |
| 22:39:09 | GoRK | anyway, yeah im going to do a rework of the math anyway to a best fit function |
| 22:39:11 | AlHazWork | It oughta ask the user if the calibration is correct, let you drag crosshairs around or something |
| 22:40:08 | GoRK | AlHaz: no need. if it's correct we can predict the raw coordinates of any target. if it gets the prediction close enough, it sets cailbration. otherwise it takes another data point |
| 22:40:48 | AlHazWork | ok |
| 22:42:43 | GoRK | anyway that is all forthcoming. i'm waiting on some ppl to go eat some food |
| 22:44:26 | AlHazWork | *nod* |
| 22:44:49 | CosmicPenguin | Man, space coaster rules! |
| 22:50:03 | GoRK | AlHaz: cvs up fbtuxcal and try it now... i may have gotten the > and < backwards (i have no tuxscreen here...) |
| 22:51:59 | scanline | GoRK: I was very happy to use Scribble Pad with a properly calibrated touch panel :) |
| 22:54:30 | scanline | is away: food |
| 22:56:57 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: |
| 22:57:07 | CosmicPenguin | Are you going to have LPP integrated into buildroot by monday? |
| 23:00:58 | GoRK | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 23:01:25 | GoRK | goes to eat |
| 23:01:28 | GoRK | bbiab |
| 23:03:06 | CosmicPenguin | GoRK: Rock on...... |
| 23:03:21 | CosmicPenguin | Now we just need somebody to write an SPI driver, and we are in business..... literally |
| 23:18:02 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 23:18:13 | ctr | evenin' |
| 23:19:36 | scanline | is back (gone 00:25:05) |
| 23:20:16 | CosmicPenguin | as_: How are you doing? |
| 23:20:46 | as_ | Actually, not well today, but thanks for asking ;] |
| 23:20:57 | as_ | Hows yourself? |
| 23:21:56 | as_ | And to compound it all the PC is playing ill. |
| 23:22:19 | as_ | Everytime I close an explorer window, I get a fault. |
| 23:22:20 | CosmicPenguin | as_: Thats too bad... I'm fighting off a cold, so thats never fun...... |
| 23:22:41 | as_ | NOT! GASP! ANTHRAX?!? |
| 23:22:53 | as_ | doing his bit for the paranoia. |
| 23:23:32 | CosmicPenguin | as_: I doubt it, since I'm getting better...... |
| 23:24:02 | as_ | Most anthrax people get better aparently, and most people that have it, never know its anthrax. |
| 23:24:13 | CosmicPenguin | But it is a fairly bad time to get a cold.... |
| 23:24:23 | as_ | Why specifically? |
| 23:24:37 | AlHazWork | as_: You hear about the "anthrax scare" in australia? |
| 23:24:44 | SpaceCoaster | CosmicPenguin: viva las vegas!! |
| 23:24:58 | as_ | I'm not in australia haha. In the UK. |
| 23:25:19 | AlHazWork | as_: Some boob on a quantas flight found a "white powder" on his cheese danish |
| 23:25:20 | as_ | I suspect the whole planet knows. |
| 23:25:32 | AlHazWork | (it's called SUGAR) |
| 23:25:55 | CosmicPenguin | SpaceCoaster: Yep! I am really, really excited to go..... |
| 23:25:56 | as_ | Yeh, they brought out the guys in the suits out when a parcel was found to contain some sandy stuff. |
| 23:26:00 | SpaceCoaster | sugar on cheese, give me anthrax any day! |
| 23:26:18 | CosmicPenguin | SpaceCoaster: Though I would expect you will have the DSP running by the time I get back? |
| 23:26:19 | as_ | It turned out, not surprisingly, to be sand. |
| 23:26:37 | SpaceCoaster | not if I use the same logic I use for flipping x and y |
| 23:26:44 | SpaceCoaster | :-( |
| 23:27:24 | CosmicPenguin | We were talking about that today.... it seems that if you tried to sneak cocaine around today, people would be reileved when they found out it wasn't anthrax... :) |
| 23:27:42 | as_ | Hahahahaha. |
| 23:27:49 | SpaceCoaster | hehe |
| 23:28:12 | as_ | 'We were really worried for a moment there, but it turned out to only be cocaine.' |
| 23:28:41 | CosmicPenguin | "Sir, what is that? Its cocaine. Could you sniff a line for me? You can't be too sure..." |
| 23:28:52 | as_ | Haha. |
| 23:29:23 | as_ | 'Do a few lines and wait in quarenteen'. |
| 23:30:11 | AlHazWork | Well, I'm goin home |
| 23:30:21 | CosmicPenguin | CNN says that the anthrax found in the Senate was "professional grade"..... |
| 23:30:32 | AlHazWork | fah |
| 23:30:52 | AlHazWork | there hasn't been enough time between now and when they found it to determine what strain it is |
| 23:31:08 | CosmicPenguin | This is getting out of hand..... |
| 23:31:10 | SpaceCoaster | wow, in the senate, that's new |
| 23:31:27 | AlHazWork | it's not "news" anymore |
| 23:31:28 | CosmicPenguin | Well, the office of the senator Daschle.... |
| 23:31:29 | AlHazWork | it's entertainment |
| 23:32:40 | SpaceCoaster | I hope he declares the gift on his taxes, anthrax ain't cheap |
| 23:32:47 | CosmicPenguin | Hehe |
| 23:33:32 | SpaceCoaster | Mr Penguin about this DSP, do you have any ideas before you go? |
| 23:33:51 | CosmicPenguin | SpaceCoaster: Man, its all there..... |
| 23:34:07 | CosmicPenguin | The most important thing, is to get something together that can read and write to the SPI.... |
| 23:35:31 | SpaceCoaster | I have the schematic now and I can see the SIP, the light flashing is because I reset the heck out of the DSP and it is connected to the LED |
| 23:36:42 | CosmicPenguin | Yep.... |
| 23:36:54 | CosmicPenguin | So you know the correct pins for the various parts..... |
| 23:37:33 | SpaceCoaster | not really |
| 23:37:43 | CosmicPenguin | Some of them are standard..... |
| 23:39:25 | SpaceCoaster | ok I found your initializing the SPI (ooops said SIP earlier). |
| 23:40:18 | CosmicPenguin | Page 319 of the SA100 spec discusses the SSP...... |
| 23:40:30 | SpaceCoaster | resetting and initializing looks easy enough |
| 23:40:30 | CosmicPenguin | SPI is really a frame format, apparently..... |
| 23:42:03 | SpaceCoaster | ahh, so we use the SSP and the MCP, MCP for UCB1200 and SSP for DSP. |
| 23:42:27 | CosmicPenguin | Yep, and we configure the SSP to use the GPIO pins instead of serial port 4 (which is used by the MCP) |
| 23:42:49 | SpaceCoaster | ahh, the alternative pin assignment, check |
| 23:44:09 | SpaceCoaster | what would be a good first target, an easy, verifiable win. |
| 23:44:14 | SpaceCoaster | ? |
| 23:45:45 | CosmicPenguin | Ok.... once you have the SPI write finished, you should be able to turn on a LED.... |
| 23:48:05 | CosmicPenguin | So try to send it a: 0xA3 0x04 0x02 0xF2 0x02 0x02 and make the whole sucker blink |
| 23:48:40 | CosmicPenguin | (In unison, I would hope) |
| 23:49:14 | SpaceCoaster | the command 0xa3 says 7 bytes, that includes the a3? |
| 23:50:03 | CosmicPenguin | Yes... I missed a byte -- 0x03 |
| 23:50:10 | CosmicPenguin | Sorry, lets try that again: |
| 23:50:21 | CosmicPenguin | 0xA3 0x04 0x00 0x02 0xF2 0x02 0x02 |
| 23:52:28 | SpaceCoaster | I wonder why the LEDs have 2 bits on/off/maybe/never |
| 23:53:08 | SpaceCoaster | i see it, off, blink, flash, on! |
| 23:53:14 | SpaceCoaster | cool |
| 23:53:58 | CosmicPenguin | What would be the difference between blink and flash? |
| 23:54:26 | CosmicPenguin | would blink be on for half a second, off for half a second, and flash on and off every half second? |
| 23:58:37 | SpaceCoaster | the spec is good, clear and simple |
| 23:59:11 | scanline | where did the spec come from? |
| 23:59:15 | SpaceCoaster | looked a DSP books today, why are they all $100 and math crazy? |
