| 00:01:40 | mallum | heh |
| 00:01:49 | mallum | bedtime for me. night all |
| 00:12:50 | Tangent | as_ : btinternet.. where in UK are you... I'm in S.London |
| 00:13:02 | jacques | hi :-D |
| 00:13:27 | jacques | anyone got the 32MB SODIMMS (or larger) working yet (under linux)? |
| 00:13:39 | as_ | Midlands. |
| 00:13:45 | as_ | Few hours from london. |
| 00:13:49 | Russ | its more of a blob thing |
| 00:13:52 | Tangent | as_ : I gre up in Telford |
| 00:13:57 | Russ | get them working with blob, and you are set |
| 00:14:01 | jacques | ah :-) |
| 00:29:44 | GoRK | err 32mb will work already.. it's anything larger that blob still barf son |
| 00:29:54 | GoRK | barfs on not barf son |
| 00:29:58 | GoRK | hehehe |
| 00:30:34 | Tangent | Know of a source for 32MB 72pin SODIMMS? |
| 00:30:49 | Tangent | preferable in the UK |
| 00:31:08 | jacques | who cares about the UK - preferably in the US |
| 00:31:11 | jacques | :-D |
| 00:31:14 | Aelhaz | GoRK: the 32 meg sodimm shows up as 8 megs |
| 00:31:28 | Aelhaz | you might be able to desolder the 8 megs on-board and use a 64 meg sodimm. maybe. |
| 00:32:18 | GoRK | oh |
| 00:32:30 | GoRK | i thougt i'd heard that you can get 40MB in there |
| 00:32:34 | GoRK | ah well... |
| 00:33:13 | Aelhaz | in inferno, not linux |
| 00:37:03 | GoRK | but you can't get higher in inferno? |
| 00:37:29 | GoRK | is that the fault of sboot then? |
| 00:37:40 | Aelhaz | no, no |
| 00:37:49 | Aelhaz | inferno and/or sboot recognizes the 32 meg sodimm as 32 megs |
| 00:37:52 | Aelhaz | blob does not |
| 00:38:07 | GoRK | right but a 64MB sodimm doesnt work in inferno |
| 00:38:14 | GoRK | ? |
| 00:38:23 | Aelhaz | there are extremely rare phones with 16 megs on board, they max out at 48 megs |
| 00:38:25 | jacques | that's what I heard |
| 00:38:33 | Aelhaz | yeah, 64 meg sodimm doesn't work at all |
| 00:38:44 | jacques | i was here a long time ago when someone tried a 64MB DIMM under inferno |
| 00:38:48 | jacques | and it did not work |
| 00:38:54 | Aelhaz | it's possible that if you removed the onboard ram you could use a 64 meg sodimm |
| 00:38:57 | Aelhaz | nobody has tried |
| 00:39:17 | GoRK | yes and is the 64mb sodimm not working sboot's fault or will the phone not support 72MB? |
| 00:39:53 | Aelhaz | blob doesn't boot either |
| 00:40:08 | Aelhaz | I don't know, i get the impression from others that it's a hardware problem |
| 03:27:33 | wedge2 | buh |
| 03:27:44 | wedge2 | i can't find the link to the CVS page that tells you where to log in etc. |
| 03:28:03 | wedge2 | the latest so urce i have wont compile and i wanna get a fresh checkout... |
| 03:42:59 | AlHaz | oh, it's mentioned on the buildroot page on the wiki |
| 03:47:32 | wedge2 | if i can find buildroot :) |
| 03:47:56 | wedge2 | man. i did it a few days ago. how is my memory this bad? |
| 03:48:23 | wedge2 | found it. |
| 03:51:57 | wedge2 | -z3 is the milestone number, right? |
| 03:53:04 | AlHaz | heckifiknow |
| 05:43:40 | GoRK | hello all |
| 05:43:45 | andersee | hey |
| 05:44:08 | GoRK | sup? i got the kbd driver for picogui written |
| 05:44:34 | andersee | Cool. I just finished up some debian stuff -- new busybox package needed for the boot floppies |
| 05:44:52 | GoRK | yeah i read about that on the lists |
| 05:45:17 | GoRK | those boot floppies are a real drag... |
| 05:45:26 | GoRK | or they seem to be.. |
| 05:45:37 | andersee | Well, they do work pretty well these days. |
| 05:45:38 | GoRK | according to the lists :) |
| 05:45:51 | andersee | But the codebase is a heap of steaming dung |
| 05:45:56 | GoRK | that's true. they are a hell of a lot more functional than they ever used to be |
| 05:46:16 | GoRK | debian and SuSE have the best floppies these days, imo |
| 05:46:37 | andersee | havnt tried suse's |
| 05:46:50 | andersee | I've read the docs on progeny's thingee |
| 05:47:20 | andersee | havn't figured out what their business model is though |
| 05:47:24 | GoRK | they have a nice menu interface.. good for helping newbies do complex stuff like recover from a broken LILO/grub/whatever |
| 05:47:43 | andersee | So... |
| 05:47:57 | andersee | You mentioned some progress hacking in libm |
| 05:48:14 | andersee | What sort of evil was needed? |
| 05:48:39 | GoRK | yeah.. it was the kludge i talked about before... i just changed the array references in the functions that mess with the shorts |
| 05:49:05 | andersee | Ahh. |
| 05:49:25 | andersee | How many func use that silly short business? |
| 05:49:25 | GoRK | it's still way broken (in that you get the wrong answer) but it is fixed in that your process doenst run into an infinite loop |
| 05:49:42 | andersee | goes to look |
| 05:49:46 | GoRK | i dunno... less than 10. just grep for 'union' in the double directoyr |
| 05:50:30 | GoRK | i think there are others that do bit twiddling on the doubles without using shorts. those, i guess, are all still broken |
| 05:50:50 | andersee | I think I will just toss that stuff and use doubles -- I don't care about 16 bit arches |
| 05:51:02 | GoRK | there are still a couple of the perl tests that make uclibc run away |
| 05:52:22 | andersee | Oh? Outside of the math stufF? |
| 05:52:33 | GoRK | well no matter what, there's still the problem of bit twiddling on doubles which those functions all need to do to be efficient... but i guess you saw that glibc header that defined the bit formats on doubles |
| 05:53:43 | GoRK | well the perl functions that were running away aren't math functions, but they do seem to do stuff with floating point numbers, so it's still probably libm |
| 05:54:07 | andersee | Oh. So just the double using libc funcs? To be expected I guess. |
| 05:55:24 | GoRK | i didn't get way into the debugger to trace it |
| 05:56:33 | GoRK | since scanline got his tux, i had to at least get my driver code rolled into his cvs and finish my kbd driver so he maybe could get to bug hunting :) |
| 05:58:18 | andersee | heh. gotcha |
| 05:58:27 | GoRK | at least that was the hope... the picogui terminal still doesn't run. i dont feel comfortable churning up a release until at least that is working |
| 05:58:45 | andersee | understandable |
| 06:11:55 | GoRK | i am so ready for a dsp driver |
| 06:12:09 | GoRK | i am all ready to jam zapata in there and make an ip phone :) |
| 06:12:43 | andersee | heh |
| 06:13:41 | scanline | Is someone working on a dsp driver? |
| 06:13:44 | GoRK | zapata will take very little glue to tie any dsp stuffs to full telephony |
| 06:14:12 | andersee | Not that I know of... |
| 06:14:27 | scanline | are there specs available? |
| 06:14:37 | GoRK | all you have to do is write functions to 1) rec/play audio 2) start/stop ringing 3) get hook state 4) read key presses |
| 06:14:42 | andersee | I havn't been doing much with the phone since I got buildroot to where it is now |
| 06:14:57 | GoRK | and zapata will do all the rest... echo cancellation, codecs, etc |
| 06:15:01 | andersee | I've been too busy working. |
| 06:15:06 | andersee | cool |
| 06:16:11 | andersee | I'm rebuilding uClibc on arm with math set to big endian... might work... |
| 06:16:21 | GoRK | it doesnt :) |
| 06:16:22 | GoRK | just fyi |
| 06:16:41 | andersee | tried it? |
| 06:16:45 | GoRK | yup |
| 06:16:58 | andersee | in include/math.h |
| 06:16:59 | GoRK | i set IEEE big endian and MIEE or whatever they are |
| 06:17:12 | scanline | So how broken is the math library? Really really broken, or just unstable broken? |
| 06:17:26 | GoRK | err well it works perfectly on x86 |
| 06:17:34 | scanline | i mean on arm :) |
| 06:17:40 | andersee | Certain functions on arm are messed.... |
| 06:18:20 | scanline | ah |
| 06:18:35 | GoRK | yes well a ton of double stuff is broken but i dont think it's 'trash it all' broken |
| 06:19:02 | GoRK | it's a good lib as far as the math goes |
| 06:19:04 | andersee | Broken files on arm: dcalc.c |
| 06:19:04 | andersee | dtestvec.c |
| 06:19:04 | andersee | fabs.c |
| 06:19:04 | andersee | floor.c |
| 06:19:05 | andersee | isnan.c |
| 06:19:05 | scanline | GoRK: Have you tried compiling picogui's vrcalc app? |
| 06:19:05 | andersee | floorf.c |
| 06:19:07 | andersee | nantst.c |
| 06:19:09 | andersee | floorl.c |
| 06:19:11 | andersee | isnanl.c |
| 06:19:13 | andersee | ldrand.c |
| 06:19:15 | andersee | nantst.c |
| 06:19:17 | andersee | testvect.c |
| 06:19:47 | GoRK | scanline: no. does it use libm or doubles? |
| 06:20:11 | scanline | It uses libm. Not sure if it's double or float... |
| 06:20:20 | scanline | it doesn't crash, but always answers zero |
| 06:20:36 | GoRK | well, then it should compile but it's not going to work right |
| 06:20:55 | scanline | Yeah. 2+2=0 :) |
| 06:21:17 | GoRK | 2+2 breaks it?! that should not |
| 06:21:29 | scanline | I'm pretty sure |
| 06:21:36 | GoRK | something else is probably messed then |
| 06:21:42 | scanline | I can try it again once I'm back at my tuxscreen |
| 06:21:45 | GoRK | i am jonesing to get pterm working |
| 06:21:47 | scanline | could be |
| 06:21:57 | scanline | I'll fix it! |
| 06:22:20 | scanline | but not today |
| 06:22:26 | GoRK | hehe :) |
| 06:22:27 | scanline | I don't have my tuxscreen here |
| 06:22:43 | scanline | I tried running it. It's a good demonstration of the PicoGUI error message dialog box ;) |
| 06:25:42 | scanline | well, see you guys later. I need to go to bed soon |
| 06:30:23 | andersee | night folks |
| 06:30:32 | andersee | I'm gonna go to sleep early tonight |
| 08:01:40 | GoRK | hmm... |
| 08:01:51 | GoRK | i'm thinking about doom on the tuxscreen :) |
| 08:07:29 | GoRK | hmm apparently Tim has done some of this already hehe |
| 12:42:52 | prpplague | morning all |
| 13:14:03 | prpplague | howdy GPSFan |
| 13:22:03 | boris | y0 |
| 13:22:34 | prpplague | are we having fun yet? |
| 13:23:08 | boris | heh :) |
| 13:27:08 | prpplague | hmmm, 138 pages mind numbing specs on the CL-PD6722 pcmcia controler, beats the heck out of reading tolkien.... |
| 13:30:45 | prpplague | you know i'm think that altoids needs some quality control, not all of these mints are the same size |
| 13:43:42 | prpplague | is it me or do pcmcia drivers seem hard to read? |
| 14:04:19 | prpplague | howdy tangent |
| 14:04:39 | Tangent | Hi prpplague ... Feels good to wake up at 4PM :) |
| 14:04:57 | prpplague | lol, i was up at 6:30am |
| 14:05:20 | Tangent | Yeah... that figured.. it was after 9am before I went to bed |
| 14:05:58 | Tangent | I feel surprisingly human, and I've not even had any coffee yet |
| 14:09:23 | prpplague | has had way too much coffee and altoids |
| 14:32:53 | prpplague | anyone recomend a good CF 802.11 card? |
| 15:15:35 | ejadles | Anyone up for a question about loading blob? |
| 15:17:22 | prpplague | is here, but probably not much help |
| 15:19:39 | Tangent | is here and listening, but probably not much help either |
| 15:20:35 | ejadles | I loaded the blob and now it seems my phone is dead. |
| 15:20:45 | ejadles | When I reset it I get garbage on the terminal. |
| 15:20:58 | ejadles | Trying to figure out if there's anything to try besides building the JTAG dongle? |
| 15:23:33 | Tangent | ejadles : I assume you're at the correct baud rate? |
| 15:24:10 | ejadles | Tangent: 9600 correct? |
| 15:24:29 | ejadles | tangent: and n81? |
| 15:25:06 | Tangent | I believe so |
| 15:25:15 | Tangent | Stop bits? Reset Com port... reset terminal |
| 15:25:52 | ejadles | tried those as well. |
| 15:26:51 | Tangent | You tried 115200 baud? |
| 15:26:59 | ejadles | No. I'll try that. |
| 15:27:18 | Tangent | Gotta be worth a shot |
| 15:27:38 | prpplague | the new build is suppose to be at 115200 |
| 15:27:48 | ejadles | That did it. Thank you sooooo much. |
| 15:27:59 | ejadles | I'm *really* new at this. |
| 15:28:06 | prpplague | so are we all... |
| 15:28:22 | prpplague | well most of us anyway... |
| 15:28:35 | Tangent | ejadles : It was a couple of months since I last touched my Tux's... It was 9600bps at the time, but I thought I heard it mentioned that 115200 was now supported |
| 15:28:48 | ejadles | excellent. |
| 15:29:12 | ejadles | I couldn't get a connection to S-Boot at anything but 9600 so I thought I was stuck there. |
| 15:29:37 | prpplague | travels to the coffee machine |
| 15:33:23 | prpplague | darn, i got out bid on a netwinder |
| 15:33:32 | mallum | by how much ? |
| 15:34:07 | prpplague | a messle $5.89 |
| 15:34:19 | mallum | doh |
| 15:34:29 | prpplague | for a grand total of $416 |
| 15:34:58 | mallum | thats cheap |
| 15:35:02 | prpplague | i know |
| 15:35:36 | prpplague | ohh well i have plenty of toys right now, someone else probably needed it.... |
| 15:36:16 | pattieja | is back (gone 16:20:36) |
| 15:36:37 | prpplague | now if i could find a lart on ebay.... |
| 15:38:41 | prpplague | oops desktop clean got a little out of hand |
| 15:42:07 | prpplague | argh i hate this pcmcia controler stuff |
| 15:47:09 | Tangent | Hmm... I think... If I could find out how voltage selection on PCMCIA cards worked, then I've worked out a good 5V hack... |
| 15:48:32 | prpplague | Tangent: good luck, i've been reading pcmcia specs since 8am this morning... |
| 15:49:34 | Tangent | prpplague : I've found numerous suitable PCMCA VCC controllers that we could use... and I just twigged how to actually solder one into place... |
| 15:49:53 | Tangent | Now I just need to know what we need to look for to select the correct voltage |
| 15:50:15 | Tangent | Whether that's gonna be handled by the kernel, or something more low-level in the hardware |
| 15:51:33 | Tangent | I know the iPAQ hardware handles it automagically... |
| 15:51:56 | Tangent | maybe it's time to rip apart my PCMCIA sleeve? |
| 15:52:08 | prpplague | Tangent: as i understand it, the controler has a register that selects the voltage |
| 15:52:39 | Tangent | and the controller is the SA1100 in this case? |
| 15:52:45 | prpplague | Tangent: ya |
| 15:53:32 | Tangent | So if I get one of these PCMCIA voltage controller chips... snip the VCC and VPP pins on the PCMCIA connector, and solder them onto this little 14pinDIL controller thingy, then we can tweak voltages... Yeah? |
| 15:54:00 | Tangent | obviously, tying the inputs to the SA1100 somehow |
| 15:54:08 | prpplague | don't start me to lie'n |
| 15:54:21 | prpplague | but that sounds correct |
| 15:54:50 | Tangent | http://www.linear-tech.com/pdf/ic17.pdf |
| 15:54:59 | Tangent | There's dozens of chips like this around... |
| 15:55:21 | Tangent | All sorts of different input voltage requirements etc... i've found one that takes a straight 5V supply |
| 15:59:27 | Tangent | Hi bworth |
| 16:00:35 | bworth | Tangent: hey! |
| 16:01:09 | Tangent | bworth : Been a while... how's things? Did you ever get the Windoze Linuz-iPAQ USB driver going? |
| 16:01:23 | bworth | Tangent: are you finally getting settled down in your new house? |
| 16:01:43 | Tangent | bworth : Yeah.. pretty much settled in now |
| 16:01:52 | bworth | Tangent: no, i never did get that working like i wanted to |
| 16:02:01 | Tangent | Shame :( |
| 16:02:35 | bworth | Tangent: I could get the drivers to load, but couldn't get any communication |
| 16:03:09 | bworth | Tangent: not having access to source on the windows side makes it very difficult to debug |
| 16:03:27 | Tangent | Yeah.. I can imagine |
| 16:04:24 | bworth | Tangent: in the meantime I've taken over responsibility for gtk-menu and menu-tiny on familiar, and am working on the accellerometer dongle for the iPaq |
| 16:04:53 | Tangent | bworth : Oh cool... did CRL give you a Backpaq then? |
| 16:05:38 | bworth | no, i'm building a dongle with an accellerometer chip that would plug into the serial/usb port on the bottom of the ipaq |
| 16:06:23 | bworth | something like this: http://bodotill.suburbia.com.au/adxl202/adxl202.html |
| 16:07:01 | Tangent | Cool |
| 16:07:05 | bworth | if i can get it working, it's something that anybody could use (not just the lucky few that have backpaqs) |
| 16:07:19 | Tangent | I think I may have found something in the quest for a 5V PCMCIA slot on the Tux |
| 16:07:25 | Tangent | http://www.linear-tech.com/pdf/ic17.pdf |
| 16:07:32 | prpplague | bworth: looks like fun |
| 16:11:29 | bworth | prpplauge: yeah, i have a couple of the Analog Devices chips, and am trying to find a suitable connector/enclosure, though for now I may develop it on a breadboard and use a serial cable (maybe use a short cable and attach the board to the back of the ipaq for testing) |
| 16:12:33 | bworth | Tangent: looks like you may be onto something - I still haven't gotten a tuxscreen yet. It's amazing what having another child will do to your cashflow :( |
| 16:12:54 | prpplague | bworth: enclosures are alway my biggest nightmare |
| 16:13:06 | prpplague | bworth: amen to that |
| 16:13:11 | Tangent | prpplague : That's what insulation tape is for :) |
| 16:13:49 | prpplague | lol, but most of our customers would have a problem with that... |
| 16:15:05 | bworth | the other option would be to integrate it into a sleeve, but I haven't studied the sleeve interface to see if there is the necessary stuff there, or whether it would be a more difficult approach (i imagine it would be) |
| 16:16:48 | prpplague | bworth: i've been using plastic pcmcia cases for test projects on my yopy |
| 16:18:02 | bworth | prpplague: that would be another route. I don't have a pcmcia sleeve yet, but i really should get one. |
| 16:19:44 | prpplague | bworth: no, when you get a new pcmcia card like a wavelan card, the come with a plastic flip open case for the card. i've been using that. |
| 16:20:35 | bworth | oh, i see - i thought you meant a plastic prototyping shell for pcmcia cards :) |
| 16:21:13 | prpplague | bworth: this way its in a relatively nice case, but can open up for prototyping |
| 16:22:01 | bworth | ok - thanks for the suggestion |
| 16:22:21 | prpplague | np |
| 16:22:41 | bworth | well, i'm headed home (i was here at work for a few hours, but i've had enough) |
| 16:22:51 | prpplague | take it easy |
| 16:24:07 | prpplague | howdy SpaceCoaster |
| 16:24:40 | SpaceCoaster | howdy, returning after power outage |
| 16:24:41 | Tangent | Hmm.. I think I may have worked out a more convenient VCC hack too.... |
| 16:24:46 | Tangent | SpaceCoaster : hi |
| 16:25:15 | SpaceCoaster | hi, I'm playing with the TOuchScreen bug anyone want to talk |
| 16:25:29 | Tangent | I'm thinking about 5V PCMCIA... |
| 16:26:16 | SpaceCoaster | hmm, but enough about your problems :-) |
| 16:26:52 | Tangent | :D |
| 16:47:14 | prpplague | is there any reason i couldn't write a small c app that reads a specific register and returns that value? |
| 16:48:59 | SpaceCoaster | what type of register? |
| 16:50:47 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: the board i'm working with has the pcmcia controler mapped at 0x3000000, i'd like to read some of the values from the pcmcia for diagnostics |
| 16:51:28 | SpaceCoaster | maybe you can access it via /dev/kmem |
| 16:53:14 | prpplague | that might work |
| 16:56:24 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: no seeing anything that might help /dev/kmem |
| 16:56:43 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: think i'm just going to have to create a debug utility |
| 16:57:56 | prpplague | SpaceCoaster: thanks for the suggestion |
| 16:58:39 | prpplague | Tangent: now that i think about it, your going to need this too |
| 16:58:51 | prpplague | Tangent: when you start working on your 5v stuff |
| 16:59:46 | Tangent | prpplague : My mate says you can access the memory portion using memory_cs |
| 17:01:27 | mallum | keyboards are complicated |
| 17:01:33 | prpplague | Tangent: thanks i'll check that out |
| 17:03:31 | prpplague | Tangent: memory_cs needs the controler to be active already, i debuging on the very initial startup of the pcmcia controler |
| 17:09:06 | mallum | is the 'alt' key on the keyboard just like a shift key ? |
| 17:09:16 | mallum | I mean it just sends an alternate char |
| 17:11:38 | prpplague | mallum: as i understand it, shift ctrl and alt, are interpreted as a modifier, the original scan code gets sent |
| 17:12:27 | prpplague | is that right guys? |
| 17:13:30 | mallum | yes I think thats right |
| 17:13:44 | mallum | Im just thinking how xkbd should work with international chars |
| 17:13:58 | mallum | when you shift the keyboard, you get the shifted chars |
| 17:14:21 | mallum | but people wanted a modifier key that would offer up another set of chars for international use |
| 17:14:50 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:14:53 | mallum | so I've set it up so you can set alternate chars accessed by the alt key |
| 17:15:20 | mallum | if theres no alternate set, it just sends that same key but with the alt key held down |
| 17:15:48 | mallum | if its set then just the alternate selection is sent with no alt key held down |
| 17:16:06 | mallum | see I told you keyboards were complicated |
| 17:17:27 | prpplague | ya thats why i use xvkbd, very flexible, and easy to configure |
| 17:19:37 | mallum | and uses up an extra meg of space :) |
| 17:19:47 | prpplague | lol, that too |
| 17:20:09 | mallum | new version on xkbd will beat xvkb to a pulp |
| 17:20:15 | prpplague | mallum: really? |
| 17:20:19 | mallum | of course |
| 17:20:31 | prpplague | mallum: i'll have to check it out |
| 17:20:47 | mallum | If I ever finish it |
| 17:20:54 | prpplague | mallum: AFTER i get this darn pcmcia controler working... |
| 17:22:13 | prpplague | Tangent: you still here? |
| 17:22:18 | Tangent | Yep |
| 17:22:47 | prpplague | Tangent: found a linuxjournal page with exactly what i need for the io stuff |
| 17:23:05 | prpplague | Tangent: http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue68/3326l1.html |
| 17:23:42 | prpplague | Tangent: original for access serial ports, but seems work fine with a few changes |
| 17:24:55 | Tangent | prpplague : Good stuff |
| 17:25:13 | GPSFan | Howdy prpplague, been off working outside, I can't hope to learn about Linux/arm by myself so I've been capturing the chat |
| 17:25:26 | prpplague | np |
| 17:25:39 | GPSFan | messages to learn how goes the porting process. |
| 17:26:06 | prpplague | Tangent: as i fix this code up, i'll try to add some diags for checking voltage status |
| 17:26:12 | prpplague | GPSFan: same here |
| 17:33:23 | GPSFan | prpplague: reading the earlier posts re 5V PCMCIA, I think the issue may not be switching |
| 17:33:57 | GPSFan | between 3.3 & 5v, but the translation ofthe logic levels between the PCMCIA card & the SA1100. |
| 17:34:22 | GPSFan | I've got the schematics of the Intel Brutus (SA1100) eval platform, and there seem |
| 17:34:46 | GPSFan | to be translators between the PCMCIA slots and the CPU. |
| 17:37:22 | prpplague | GPSFan: so are you saying that the sa1100 is understanding that it is 5v device but can't provide the nessary logic to drive the card? |
| 17:40:38 | GPSFan | prpplague: The SA1100 is running at 3.3V, and I don't think its i/o is 5v tolerant. |
| 17:44:32 | prpplague | GPSFan: gotta ya |
| 17:45:08 | GPSFan | prpplague: I'll review the SA1100 specs to be sure, but Brutus has translators. The Cirrius controller has 5v tolerant i/o |
| 17:45:32 | GPSFan | as does its brother the 6720 (ISA) |
| 17:46:02 | GPSFan | I used the 6720 a few years back. |
| 17:46:50 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm working on a 6722 right now |
| 17:49:42 | prpplague | GPSFan: ever used cirrius in combination with sa1100? |
| 17:51:27 | GPSFan | prpplague: nope, but the elf does. |
| 17:51:42 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep thats the one i'm working on |
| 17:53:25 | prpplague | GPSFan: you looked at the elf before? |
| 17:53:44 | GPSFan | prpplague: I wish there were schematics for the Tuxscreen main board that would tell a lot about how the PCMCIA is supposed to work. |
| 17:54:10 | GPSFan | and what they left out in the interest of cost. |
| 17:54:15 | prpplague | GPSFan: agreed |
| 20:11:17 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:25:23 | prpplague | i swear this p4 gets slower the longer you leave it on |
| 20:53:19 | debug | prpplague, well, if temperature get's too high. |