| 00:20:55 | vosque | moo |
| 00:22:18 | GoRK | meat |
| 00:22:30 | Meatsicle | sup fool |
| 00:24:57 | Meatsicle | trying to get this development stuff in order |
| 00:25:10 | Meatsicle | did you ever figure out how to mount a flashcard? |
| 00:25:54 | GoRK | yeah. i am writing input drivers for picogui for touchscreen and kbd now. The touchscreen is done. the keyboard one is underway |
| 00:26:23 | GoRK | picogui is running like a champ. i should probably take a photo |
| 00:26:46 | Meatsicle | thats cool. there was no keyboard driver? |
| 00:27:12 | Meatsicle | dang this file is 52 megs |
| 00:28:01 | GoRK | the only picogui keyboard drivers use SDL or curses.. there might be another one not sure |
| 00:28:17 | Meatsicle | what does yours use? |
| 00:28:52 | GoRK | no libraries at all. it talks directly to the keyboard handler |
| 00:28:59 | Meatsicle | outstanding |
| 00:29:13 | Meatsicle | what about the keypad on the phone? what controls that? |
| 00:30:14 | GoRK | the dsp |
| 00:30:35 | Meatsicle | is this board the sa-1110 or 1111? |
| 00:33:30 | GoRK | the cpu is sa-1100 |
| 00:34:37 | Meatsicle | aha |
| 00:36:08 | Meatsicle | how do I quit minicom |
| 00:38:02 | GoRK | alt-q |
| 00:40:13 | Meatsicle | so I have to recompile my system kernel to include this bull? |
| 00:40:35 | GoRK | no |
| 00:40:43 | Meatsicle | oh thats good |
| 01:02:00 | GoRK | i have some screenshots of picogui for the wiki |
| 01:25:38 | BZFlag | GoRK: email em to me if you want them up on SF, or just link to them in the wiki |
| 01:27:23 | GoRK | BZFlag: they're on the PicoGUI topic in the wiki. I dont mind hosting them but if you'd like to put them in the img directory, i wouldn't mind at all |
| 01:28:12 | GoRK | http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/picogui |
| 01:35:25 | BZFlag | if you don't mind hosting the images, then continue. that gives you greater flexibility. Nice images! |
| 01:35:45 | nelson | cworthAWAY: My keyboard drops characters as well, hmph. |
| 01:35:48 | GoRK | i cant find my digital camera. i had to take those with this crappy webcam |
| 01:57:55 | GoRK | What's the easiest way to disable the kernel's console blanking? |
| 01:58:00 | GoRK | for the phone |
| 01:58:41 | GoRK | actually i need to just completely take over the framebuffer device but i can't find any info anywhere |
| 02:30:33 | AlHaz | OK, I finally tried the buildroot thing |
| 02:30:42 | AlHaz | who wants to know where it broke? |
| 02:32:18 | andersee | hit me. |
| 02:32:23 | andersee | What broke? |
| 02:33:09 | AlHaz | Connecting to tuxscreen.net:80... connected! |
| 02:33:09 | AlHaz | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 02:33:09 | AlHaz | Length: 13,839 [text/plain] |
| 02:33:09 | AlHaz | 0K -> .......... ... [100%] |
| 02:33:09 | AlHaz | 21:28:46 (57.75 KB/s) - `config-2.4.7-rmk2-np1-tux1' saved [13839/13839] |
| 02:33:10 | AlHaz | tar: invalid option -- j |
| 02:33:12 | AlHaz | Try `tar --help' for more information. |
| 02:33:14 | AlHaz | can't find file to patch at input line 4 |
| 02:33:47 | GoRK | you need a tar that supports .bz2 |
| 02:33:47 | andersee | You need a modern version of tar that groks the 'j' option for bzip2 |
| 02:34:19 | AlHaz | andersee: hey, I'm just using debian/potato here |
| 02:34:30 | AlHaz | GoRK: that's I |
| 02:34:47 | AlHaz | never seen j before . . |
| 02:35:34 | andersee | for potato it was 'I'. Then they tossed that and used the standard 'j', which is in woody/sid and upstream |
| 02:36:54 | andersee | You can search for 'tar -xjvf' and replace with 'tar -xIvf' for potato. |
| 02:37:13 | GoRK | i suppose the makefile could be changed to something more totally generic eg 'bunzip2 -c something.bz2 | tar xvf -' |
| 02:37:24 | AlHaz | never even heard of -j before |
| 02:37:35 | AlHaz | so i wonder where the standard came from |
| 02:37:39 | andersee | sigh. I suppose so. |
| 02:37:45 | AlHaz | (the nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from) |
| 02:38:20 | andersee | AlHaz: don't ask me. All I know is upstream GNU tar has 'j' not 'I' |
| 02:39:56 | AlHaz | OK |
| 02:40:18 | AlHaz | just thinking like a test goon, as usual. "change without reason is a bug" and all that. |
| 02:44:02 | GoRK | tar --use-compress-prog=bzip2 xf foo.tar.bz2 |
| 02:44:17 | AlHaz | GoRK: that'd handle the variance, yeah |
| 02:44:38 | GoRK | it'd also handle tars that had no idea what bzip2 is |
| 02:44:41 | AlHaz | I don't mean to be anal, it's just my job. Even though it's saturday. |
| 02:46:21 | AlHaz | hmm, somehow I'm running out of space on /usr . . |
| 02:50:54 | andersee | Looks like a full build takes 226M ... |
| 02:52:23 | AlHaz | yeah, and i had half a dozen old kernel trees in /usr/src, those were sitting on a bunch of space . . |
| 02:52:42 | AlHaz | this system is partitioned funny for various reasons. gonna fix that sooner or later . . |
| 02:53:12 | AlHaz | I've got plenty of space on /home |
| 03:00:31 | AlHaz | ok, trying this one more time . . |
| 03:01:40 | AlHaz | using ericm's crossdev stuff |
| 03:01:44 | AlHaz | erikm's even |
| 03:10:43 | BZFlag | andersee: I reported and fixed a busybox bug. remind me how to close it? |
| 03:10:57 | AlHaz | both celerons madly spinning away like a couple hamsters in exercise wheels . . . |
| 03:11:27 | AlHaz | BZFlag: if you're talking about GT, hit "submit bug" and then go back to the edit bug window |
| 03:11:41 | AlHaz | it's a bug in GT . . . |
| 03:12:12 | BZFlag | nope. OSS |
| 03:12:16 | AlHaz | *nod* |
| 03:12:39 | AlHaz | GT amazes me. How we ended up with a bug tracker written by a company that doesn't actively track their own bugs . . . |
| 03:13:17 | AlHaz | how we ended up with a bug tracker that's closed source . . . |
| 03:14:30 | AlHaz | andersee: Busted again. Wanna see where? |
| 03:16:03 | AlHaz | make[3]: ../../extra/gcc-uClibc/arm-uclibc-gcc: Command not found |
| 03:16:03 | AlHaz | make[3]: *** [boot1.o] Error 127 |
| 03:20:39 | AlHaz | trying again without "MAKE = make -j2" since I'm just a hotshot punk anyway . . |
| 03:25:18 | AlHaz | Now it's stuck 'cause it can't find the mtd snapshot it's looking for |
| 03:28:33 | AlHaz | --22:29:50-- ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org:21/pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs/mtd-snapshot-20010829.tar.bz2 |
| 03:28:33 | AlHaz | => `mtd-snapshot-20010829.tar.bz2' |
| 03:28:33 | AlHaz | Connecting to ftp.uk.linux.org:21... connected! |
| 03:28:33 | AlHaz | Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! |
| 03:28:33 | AlHaz | ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs ... done. |
| 03:28:34 | AlHaz | ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR mtd-snapshot-20010829.tar.bz2 ... |
| 03:28:36 | AlHaz | No such file `mtd-snapshot-20010829.tar.bz2'. |
| 03:34:27 | BZFlag | AlHaz: just update the date. |
| 03:35:35 | BZFlag | it's looking 0913 here. what version are you building anyway? |
| 03:36:05 | BZFlag | the tarball is very old. nuke it and start from CVS like you should have. ;-) |
| 03:36:10 | AlHaz | BZFlag: I just grabbed buildroot-tux.tar.gz from the download directory and went with it |
| 03:36:14 | AlHaz | :P |
| 03:36:24 | BZFlag | goes to delete the tarball... |
| 03:36:28 | AlHaz | CVS is generally a foreign language for me |
| 03:38:08 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=20228 |
| 03:38:57 | BZFlag | use the ssh ver as you are a project member, and the module is buildroot-tux |
| 03:42:27 | BZFlag | andersee even fixed cvs so your old tar will work. ;-) |
| 03:43:21 | AlHaz | tries to remember his sf account info . . |
| 03:45:15 | andersee | BZFlag: Can SF be persuaded to create daily snapshots of buildroot? |
| 03:45:41 | andersee | BZFlag: Perhaps we should also post current buildroot filesystems and kernels. |
| 03:46:10 | AlHaz | oh, ok, I was blocking the cookie . . |
| 03:46:13 | BZFlag | it creates a daily snapshot of the hole cvs tree. that includes jflash, the now outdated blob, and buildroot. |
| 03:46:39 | andersee | Whats jflash? |
| 03:46:48 | BZFlag | the jtag app. |
| 03:46:49 | Russ | jtag stuff |
| 03:46:52 | andersee | ahh |
| 03:47:17 | andersee | I bought a jtag dongle, but I've havn't used it thus far... |
| 03:47:47 | andersee | I havn't done anything kernel wise on this thing, beyond setup buildroot to snag Russ' work and build it |
| 03:47:53 | AlHaz | cam |
| 03:47:57 | AlHaz | can't log into cvs . . |
| 03:48:14 | AlHaz | Could not chdir to home directory /home/users/e/er/ericjorg: No such file or directory |
| 03:48:14 | AlHaz | cvs [server aborted]: can't chdir(/home/users/e/er/ericjorg): No such file or directory |
| 03:48:23 | AlHaz | rather, can't do squat after I authenticate |
| 03:51:35 | BZFlag | andersee: don't even need it for kernel work. just blob work. |
| 03:51:58 | AlHaz | anonymous works |
| 03:52:03 | BZFlag | AlHaz: ssh ericjorg@tuxscreen.net |
| 03:52:17 | andersee | BZFlag: So you can't use it to set a breakpoint in the kernel? |
| 03:52:22 | BZFlag | that should create your home directory |
| 03:52:29 | AlHaz | ok |
| 03:53:06 | BZFlag | andersee: not really. arm7tdmi has that, but strongarm is a "boundary " interface or some such. |
| 03:53:15 | andersee | really like using the JEENI when working on the blip, since I could use gdb and set breakpoint in the running kernel, get backtraces, etc. |
| 03:53:17 | BZFlag | in other words it's a minimal interface. |
| 03:53:54 | andersee | Enough to push bits into mem and say go. But no stop... |
| 03:54:19 | BZFlag | we only use it to push to flash. |
| 03:55:07 | BZFlag | Russ has a cool mtd-remote driver that will let you map the tux flash to a mtd device on the host. ;-) |
| 03:55:20 | andersee | Hmm. cool. |
| 03:55:48 | BZFlag | AlHaz: building yet? |
| 03:56:02 | AlHaz | BZFlag: it's sucking down tarballs |
| 03:56:21 | andersee | About 25+ meg of 'em unfortunately |
| 03:56:42 | andersee | Still, this is better then bundling them all |
| 03:58:17 | AlHaz | aint so bad on 678k dsl |
| 04:01:20 | AlHaz | building already |
| 04:02:30 | vosque | oi |
| 04:02:43 | andersee | AlHaz: purty cool, huh? |
| 04:05:08 | lfjewett | Alhaz, you building the buildroot-tux? |
| 04:05:52 | AlHaz | andersee: Yeah |
| 04:05:53 | lfjewett | Cuz I built it last night but for the life of me can't run make in the /uClibc directory.. I'm trying to get the uClibc wrappers so I can code in C on my linux box and zmodem up an app.. |
| 04:05:56 | AlHaz | lfjewett: yeah |
| 04:06:09 | lfjewett | Have you got the uClibc stuff to compile? |
| 04:06:47 | AlHaz | lfjewett: Not sure yet |
| 04:08:16 | AlHaz | I never have really tried to overclock these celerons . . I should give it a try some day, now that dual celerons are passe |
| 04:12:26 | andersee | I need to upgrade my kernel. The vm on .24.8 sucks under heavy IO <typed at 1 char per second...> |
| 04:13:43 | AlHaz | I'm still using 2.2 on nearly everything |
| 04:13:50 | vosque | well, I got QPE running oon the tux last night... it all works but the touchscreen |
| 04:13:50 | AlHaz | the duron downstairs is 2.4.9 |
| 04:15:43 | BZFlag | andersee: home page for uClibc? |
| 04:16:25 | AlHaz | /home/alhaz/src/buildroot-tux/mtd/util/mkfs.jffs2 --squash -e 0x20000 -d /home/alhaz/src/buildroot-tux/root -D ./device_table.txt -o /home/alhaz/src/buildroot-tux/tuxscreen-image.jffs2 |
| 04:16:25 | AlHaz | make: /home/alhaz/src/buildroot-tux/mtd/util/mkfs.jffs2: Command not found |
| 04:16:25 | AlHaz | make: *** [target] Error 127 |
| 04:16:49 | BZFlag | goodnight im going to bed |
| 04:17:08 | BZFlag | 's wife types |
| 04:17:23 | Russ | is it a dvorak keyboard? |
| 04:18:04 | andersee | BZFlag: http://cvs.uclinux.org/uClibc.html |
| 04:20:38 | andersee | AlHaz: I duuno why that might've happened. Try 'make -C mtd/util && make' and see it that makes it go |
| 04:21:50 | BZFlag | is there a udhcp home page anywhere? |
| 04:22:23 | Russ | on lineo |
| 04:22:25 | andersee | http://opensource.lineo.com/udhcp/ |
| 04:23:55 | AlHaz | andersee: numerous errors compiling compr_rtime.c |
| 04:24:09 | BZFlag | http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view/Main/BuildRoot |
| 04:24:31 | AlHaz | make: Entering directory `/home/alhaz/src/buildroot-tux/mtd/util' |
| 04:24:31 | AlHaz | cc -I../include -O2 -Wall -c -o compr_rtime.o compr_rtime.c |
| 04:24:31 | AlHaz | In file included from /usr/include/linux/string.h:37, |
| 04:24:31 | AlHaz | from compr_rtime.c:51: |
| 04:24:32 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:46: parse error before `size_t' |
| 04:24:32 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h: In function `strncpy': |
| 04:24:34 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:47: number of arguments doesn't match prototype |
| 04:24:35 | AlHaz | /usr/include/linux/string.h:13: prototype declaration |
| 04:24:37 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `src' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 04:24:39 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 04:24:41 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: for each function it appears in.) |
| 04:24:43 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `dest' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 04:24:45 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `count' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 04:24:47 | AlHaz | /usr/include/asm/string.h:63: warning: control reaches end of non-void function |
| 04:24:49 | AlHaz | and so on, and so on |
| 04:25:30 | BZFlag | headers should be coming from `pwd`/linux/include |
| 04:25:39 | BZFlag | not /usr/include |
| 04:25:57 | AlHaz | BZFlag: don't look at me man, this is all supposed to be automagic |
| 04:26:07 | andersee | AlHaz: 'sed -e s/potato/woody/g /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -u -f -y' |
| 04:26:16 | BZFlag | heh |
| 04:26:18 | andersee | ;-) |
| 04:26:36 | AlHaz | andersee: No thanks. |
| 04:27:10 | AlHaz | this installation won't be upgraded, it'll be replaced. /var and whatnot are munged beyond belief. |
| 04:27:11 | BZFlag | add -e 's/ stable / testing /g' |
| 04:27:42 | BZFlag | rename /usr/include/linux to something else and try again. |
| 04:28:11 | andersee | AlHaz: Try 'cd mtd ; make clean; cd ..; make -C mtd/util' |
| 04:29:13 | AlHaz | andersee: Same thing |
| 04:29:19 | AlHaz | BZFlag: that just breaks it outright |
| 04:29:59 | BZFlag | AlHaz: that's progress. ;-) |
| 04:30:04 | andersee | Hmm. |
| 04:38:09 | AlHaz | well, I'm out for the night |
| 04:39:53 | BZFlag | wait! |
| 04:40:58 | BZFlag | cvs up -PdA ; make |
| 04:40:59 | AlHaz | ok, ok . . |
| 04:42:34 | BZFlag | got past mtd? |
| 04:43:44 | AlHaz | yeah, seems to work |
| 04:44:08 | AlHaz | I'm beat tho. I'll fiddle with the image in the morning. |
| 04:44:15 | AlHaz | g'nite |
| 04:44:48 | BZFlag | sweet. thanx! |
| 04:45:01 | BZFlag | andersee: what did you edit on BuildRoot? |
| 04:49:04 | Sebas | anybody idle enough to help me 'make' buildroot-tux for the first time? I'm getting some errors |
| 04:50:31 | Sebas | fresh cvs update (10 minutes ago)... handhelds.org toolchain... entry-armv.S:781:Error: Internal_relocation... |
| 04:50:46 | andersee | BZFlag: my name. You had "Erik Andersee". |
| 04:51:18 | andersee | Too bad wiki can't show diffs. |
| 04:51:25 | BZFlag | oops. ;-) |
| 04:51:30 | BZFlag | diffs are coming... |
| 04:52:03 | BZFlag | I talked to the sfWiki folk diffs are on the list of TODOs for them. |
| 04:52:39 | BZFlag | I have not looked in the mysql database to determine if the info is there or not. |
| 04:52:44 | andersee | that'll be nice |
| 04:52:58 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 04:53:14 | BZFlag | Sebas: I don't recognise that error. |
| 04:53:42 | Sebas | the only step I'm not 100% sure is the "include links" when installing the toolchain... |
| 04:54:07 | BZFlag | I'm using the emdebian tools. have not installed the HH one. |
| 04:54:47 | BZFlag | paste the command that died here |
| 04:54:50 | Sebas | they say to link linux/include/asm and linux/include/linux to the /usr/src dirs |
| 04:55:04 | Sebas | but I linked to the buildroot-tux/linux dirs... |
| 04:55:23 | BZFlag | did the kernel build? |
| 04:55:29 | Sebas | nop |
| 04:55:57 | BZFlag | then try what they suggest. |
| 04:56:45 | Sebas | that's what I'm doing... lets see what happens |
| 04:57:00 | lfjewett | Sebas. I had that same error |
| 04:57:03 | lfjewett | I think.. |
| 04:57:11 | lfjewett | and yes linking those files corrected it. |
| 04:57:23 | Sebas | meanwhile... does anybody know if the PrismII wireless cards are 5V or 3V? |
| 04:57:42 | lfjewett | O and be sure to export your /skiff/local/bin to your path to.. |
| 04:58:23 | BZFlag | andersee: you see my route patch bug open,patch,close today? |
| 04:58:57 | BZFlag | wonders why it was /usr/bin/route in the first place |
| 05:00:06 | BZFlag | well, must sleep. nite all |
| 05:00:40 | lfjewett | Has anyone in here built the buildroot-tux/uClibc stuff with the Handhelds.org arm toolchain yet.. When I edited what the config file said to and ran make it fails out saying unknown register name 'lr' in 'asm'. and the like?? |
| 05:01:31 | Sebas | didn't work... :-( |
| 05:01:48 | Sebas | maybe I should get another toolchain... any suggestions? |
| 05:02:06 | lfjewett | Not from me.. I can't get the uClibc to compile ether.. |
| 05:02:13 | lfjewett | been working on it all day.. |
| 05:04:35 | andersee | lfjewett: Are arm-linux-gcc and the other arm-linux-* tools in your PATH? |
| 05:04:43 | lfjewett | yes. |
| 05:04:50 | lfjewett | just double checked exactly that. |
| 05:04:55 | Sebas | getting lart.tudeftl... |
| 05:05:00 | andersee | what does 'which arm-linux-gcc' show? |
| 05:05:13 | lfjewett | one sec. I removed a # sign from the Config file. |
| 05:05:20 | lfjewett | it's gonig now.. (maybe) |
| 05:05:34 | lfjewett | it had #arm-linux- |
| 05:06:38 | Sebas | might the cause be in the fact that I have an older kernel (2.4.3) on the box I'm crosscompiling 2.4.7? |
| 05:06:55 | lfjewett | Finally finished compiling...... Whooo hoooo |
| 05:09:36 | lfjewett | Now the last part of my quest here is to get the arm-linux-gcc to use the uClibc I just made instead of the glibc it was built with? Someone mentioned wrapper to me, but I'm clueless as to my next step.. suggestions from the peanut gallery? |
| 05:10:06 | lfjewett | What are you trying to 'make' Sebas? |
| 05:10:16 | Sebas | all |
| 05:10:37 | lfjewett | o' did you edit the config files first? |
| 05:11:11 | Sebas | <clueless> config files? </clueless> |
| 05:11:46 | lfjewett | yeah no expert here, but in the /uClibc directory (current project for me) there was a Config file.. Had to set some variables in there. |
| 05:12:13 | lfjewett | Or are you one step back, just got the CVS and are running make on it? |
| 05:12:17 | Sebas | well... I haven't gotten to that point yet... uClibc has not been downloaded |
| 05:12:22 | Sebas | yup... that step |
| 05:12:23 | lfjewett | ok. |
| 05:12:26 | lfjewett | Doh. |
| 05:12:53 | Sebas | still... same error... with the lart toolchain |
| 05:13:13 | Sebas | are your kernels in sync? maybe that's the cause? |
| 05:13:27 | lfjewett | is the path to the arm-linux-* tools in your path? |
| 05:13:32 | Sebas | yes |
| 05:13:45 | lfjewett | To be honest I'm not sure... |
| 05:14:06 | lfjewett | 2.4.2-2smp kernel on my linux box. |
| 05:14:10 | Sebas | hmmm |
| 05:14:24 | Sebas | so that should not be it (unless there is a problem with 2.4.3) |
| 05:14:30 | lfjewett | It's a fresh install of RH7.1 |
| 05:15:10 | Sebas | let me just delete the whole buildroot dir and try again from scratch |
| 05:15:18 | lfjewett | LOL |
| 05:15:39 | Sebas | (the things you can do when you have broadband :-) |
| 05:16:08 | lfjewett | I hate you. (56k user who can't afford DSL) |
| 05:16:10 | lfjewett | :-) |
| 05:17:01 | Sebas | then I better not tell you how long it will take me to download the kernel |
| 05:17:18 | lfjewett | LOL I used to have cable, I know, I know.... |
| 05:17:42 | lfjewett | And at work I have a direct connection to an OC48.. so I long for more speed. |
| 05:19:10 | Sebas | the only place I feel bandwidth-limited nowadays is on Palm -> infrared -> GSM phone at 9600 |
| 05:19:34 | lfjewett | Show off.. |
| 05:19:39 | Sebas | :-) |
| 05:22:10 | Sebas | is there a way to flash the kernel without going through blob? |
| 05:22:32 | lfjewett | I think you can do it with a JTAG connector.. |
| 05:22:41 | lfjewett | but you'd need confirmation on that.. |
| 05:23:09 | Sebas | I was thinking more along the lines of "from linux itself" |
| 05:23:42 | lfjewett | O you mean reflashing the kernel while the kernel is running on the phone itself? |
| 05:23:58 | Sebas | yeah |
| 05:24:57 | lfjewett | Good question.. |
| 05:25:23 | Sebas | looks like the kernel is compiling fine now... |
| 05:25:32 | Sebas | yup... got to the uClibc download |
| 05:25:48 | lfjewett | Great, now that you have it, can you tell me how to use it? |
| 05:27:04 | Sebas | very interesting question... |
| 05:27:18 | lfjewett | Just trying to compile a simple hello world app. |
| 05:27:32 | lfjewett | I can compile it with the arm-linux-gcc --static |
| 05:27:33 | Sebas | I think I'm even more clueless than you are |
| 05:27:49 | lfjewett | Ahhh damn.. and nobody else is in the room I think.. |
| 05:28:03 | Sebas | have you checked the makefiles for tinylogin and busybox? |
| 05:28:15 | lfjewett | hmmm good point.. |
| 05:29:43 | Sebas | another error... mtd/util/mkfs.jffs2: command not found |
| 05:30:13 | Sebas | there is an mkfs.jffs (without the 2) there... but no mkfs.jffs2... |
| 05:31:03 | lfjewett | Ugg, that's when most people just say.. "Damn, it sux to be me." |
| 05:31:50 | Sebas | it seems the problem is related to zlib (or the lack of...) |
| 05:33:13 | andersee | more likely, the lack of zlib header files. zlib*-dev installed? |
| 05:34:29 | Sebas | let me check |
| 05:35:23 | Sebas | yup... that did it |
| 05:35:52 | Sebas | build completed :-) |
| 05:35:58 | andersee | :) |
| 05:37:30 | Sebas | about uClibc |
| 05:37:31 | Sebas | # To compile vs uClibc, just use the compiler wrapper built by uClibc... |
| 05:37:31 | Sebas | # Everything should compile and work as expected these days... |
| 05:37:32 | Sebas | #CC = ../uClibc/extra/gcc-uClibc/i386-uclibc-gcc |
| 05:37:37 | Sebas | from the busybox Makefile |
| 05:37:46 | lfjewett | Yeah just read that. |
| 05:37:55 | lfjewett | ./arm-uclibc-gcc hello.c |
| 05:37:55 | lfjewett | arm-linux-gcc: /usr/arm-linux-uclibc/lib/crt0.o: No such file or directory |
| 05:37:55 | lfjewett | hello.c:1: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:37:58 | lfjewett | was the output. |
| 05:38:09 | lfjewett | Of course the /usr/blah blah is wrong. |
| 05:38:17 | lfjewett | trying to figure out why/how to correct that. |
| 05:39:20 | andersee | lfjewett: 'arm-linux-gcc --uclibc-use-build-dir' |
| 05:39:45 | andersee | Its not documented, but that is what you are wanting to do.. |
| 05:40:18 | andersee | Or you can use the one installed in staging_dir/bin or staging_dir/usr/bin |
| 05:40:38 | andersee | In that case, then you don't need the --uclibc-use-build-dir |
| 05:41:20 | lfjewett | hmm.. ok I ran that and it compiled. |
| 05:41:22 | Sebas | andersee: one question... the busybox makefile doesn't seem to be using the arm-linux toolchain, nor uclibc... is that "correct"? |
| 05:41:24 | lfjewett | no error this time.. |
| 05:41:28 | andersee | So just run 'staging_dir/bin/gcc -Wall -Os hello.c -o hello' and you should be all set making apps for the target |
| 05:41:59 | andersee | Sebas: See the toplevel makefile. It runs 'make CROSS="$(TARGET_CROSS)" -C $(BUSYBOX_DIR);' |
| 05:42:12 | Sebas | oops... ok... |
| 05:42:21 | andersee | Things passed in via make override stuff in the Makefile |
| 05:42:41 | lfjewett | andersee is cheating. |
| 05:42:42 | Sebas | and it uses the uclibc wrapper, correct? |
| 05:42:47 | lfjewett | he knows what he's doing!! :-) |
| 05:43:00 | andersee | But of course I cheat... |
| 05:43:11 | andersee | wrote all that stuff |
| 05:44:02 | andersee | wrote the buildroot system and maintains busybox, tinylogin, and uClibc. |
| 05:44:12 | lfjewett | Yeah I thought I saw his name in the top of all those files.... :-) |
| 05:44:15 | Sebas | ok... now that I've 'make world'... one quick question |
| 05:44:21 | andersee | shoot |
| 05:44:34 | lfjewett | in otherwords, andersee=theman. |
| 05:44:52 | andersee | gets a big ego |
| 05:45:02 | Sebas | how do I get a wireless card (PrismII, Lynksys) working so I can run CounterStrike? |
| 05:45:16 | andersee | Hmm. |
| 05:45:41 | Sebas | (if andresee-theman manages to get CounterStrike running, I'm naming my first son after him) |
| 05:45:58 | lfjewett | LOL |
| 05:46:04 | lfjewett | Not so fast Sebas.. |
| 05:46:05 | lfjewett | file hello |
| 05:46:06 | lfjewett | hello: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 05:46:08 | andersee | Erik is a good name. Too bad you won't get to use it for your son... |
| 05:46:22 | lfjewett | that was my hello file.. it's a 80386 binary.. |
| 05:46:25 | lfjewett | hmm |
| 05:46:38 | Sebas | well... I cheated... the name is actually on my short list already :-) |
| 05:46:39 | andersee | Whats the compile command look like? |
| 05:47:03 | lfjewett | gcc -Wall -Os hello.c -o hello |
| 05:47:10 | lfjewett | exaclty cut/paste of what you said. |
| 05:47:11 | lfjewett | LOL |
| 05:47:12 | andersee | Sebas: My son uses it for a middle name. :) |
| 05:47:39 | lfjewett | Ahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 05:47:42 | lfjewett | I know what is was. |
| 05:47:48 | lfjewett | it called gcc from my path. |
| 05:47:50 | andersee | lfjewett: now add the correct path in... |
| 05:47:54 | lfjewett | ./ that command louis.. |
| 05:48:01 | andersee | lfjewett gets a gold star |
| 05:48:30 | lfjewett | Yeah well lfjewett also locked up his tuxscreen trying to run an i386 bin file on it LOL |
| 05:49:14 | andersee | Try using staging_dir/usr/bin/arm-uclibc-gcc |
| 05:50:41 | andersee | lfjewett: Hmm. Sounds like a kernel problem. binfmt_elf.c in the kernel should be checking the OS/ABI field in the elf file... |
| 05:51:51 | andersee | Err. Machine field... |
| 05:52:10 | andersee | wanders off to look at the kernel |
| 05:52:43 | lfjewett | That was with my path gcc compileing it.. should be ok when i add the ./ but I killed my tux.. |
| 05:52:45 | lfjewett | RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. |
| 05:52:53 | lfjewett | Time to reflash, maybe. |
| 05:55:26 | lfjewett | O' no.. all better.. Whew. |
| 05:56:11 | lfjewett | andersee is the man.. It worked perfet. |
| 05:56:18 | lfjewett | # ./hello |
| 05:56:18 | lfjewett | Hello, World! |
| 05:56:26 | lfjewett | file hello |
| 05:56:27 | lfjewett | hello: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Advanced RISC Machines ARM, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 05:56:59 | lfjewett | awsome... I will write a Wiki page when I get a few spare min so that maybe others won't have to find there way into irc and ask the same questions over and over again... |
| 06:08:30 | Sebas | ok... I'm trying to reflash my tuxscreen now... and blob gives me "Erase error... / Write error..." with both kernel and ramdisk |
| 06:09:27 | Sebas | does instaling linux relocks the flash or something like that? |
| 06:09:38 | lfjewett | Does your user have write permissions on the serial ports? |
| 06:09:51 | andersee | lfjewett: cool you got it working. |
| 06:09:53 | Sebas | both "files" are already in memory on the tuxscreen |
| 06:10:12 | andersee | lfjewett: that would be nice if you would write a wiki page. |
| 06:10:14 | Sebas | it's on the "flash kernel" that I get the error |
| 06:10:24 | andersee | takes off for the evening |
| 06:10:30 | lfjewett | No problem.. It's been fun andersee.. |
| 06:10:51 | lfjewett | This is the 2nd time loading them Sebas |
| 06:10:54 | Sebas | yes |
| 06:11:08 | Sebas | "download kernel" works ok... |
| 06:11:49 | lfjewett | dang.. I have not done it twice. |
| 06:12:01 | lfjewett | If BZ was here, I'm sure he'd have an answer. |
| 06:12:14 | Sebas | yup... guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow |
| 06:13:06 | lfjewett | sorry.. but I don't think it goes write protective again, because of him wiki page said doing the flashunlock was a 1 time event. |
| 06:13:11 | Sebas | booted from ram and it worked... but it's "screaming" for "root"... |
| 06:13:57 | lfjewett | him wiki page.. O' yeah I'm typeing straight... Yawn.. I'm outta here too.. Night.. good luck!! |
| 15:11:53 | Aelhaz | NickB_: why are you pogoing? |
| 15:41:25 | NickB_ | Not sure... might try another server if it keeps up. |
| 16:45:27 | Aelhaz | hey, you still want that nic? |
| 16:45:38 | ctr | hee |
| 16:45:39 | ctr | yeah |
| 16:45:44 | ctr | i can sort my order out |
| 16:45:48 | ctr | only just got back home |
| 16:45:53 | ctr | been away for a week and a half |
| 16:46:55 | Aelhaz | ah, k |
| 16:52:02 | ctr | will sort it out tomorrow |
| 16:52:16 | ctr | currently i am thinking phone gf, watch a little of hackers on dvd, and food |
| 16:53:05 | Aelhaz | *nod* |
| 16:54:00 | ctr | :) |
| 16:54:01 | ctr | maybe a little hacking laterif i drink some beer |
| 20:18:25 | Sebas | anyone here? |
| 20:19:26 | AlHaz | yes |
| 20:19:50 | ctr | no |
| 20:19:52 | ctr | all dead |
| 20:19:53 | ctr | :) |
| 20:19:58 | ctr | AlHaz, went and got some beer |
| 20:19:59 | ctr | :) |
| 20:20:08 | ctr | tempted to hack ferite support into xchat again |
| 20:20:08 | Sebas | anyone that could know why blob is not responding anymore? |
| 20:20:38 | AlHaz | not responding? |
| 20:20:58 | Sebas | nope... I cycle power, and nothing comes out the serial port... and linux is not booting |
| 20:21:25 | AlHaz | did it work at some point? |
| 20:22:00 | Sebas | yes... I flashed the images from tuxscreen.net/downloads... linux booted, I was happy |
| 20:22:14 | Sebas | then I managed to compile my own images with BuildRoot |
| 20:22:22 | Sebas | and tried to flash them |
| 20:22:25 | Sebas | got some errors |
| 20:22:39 | Sebas | and then tried to boot from the downloaded image in ram |
| 20:23:03 | Sebas | linux booted... panicked about not having a root... and after a power cycle, it never came back |
| 20:25:20 | AlHaz | what kind of errors? |
| 20:25:58 | Sebas | something like "Erase Error 0x0040000" and then "Write Error 0x0050000" (not verbatim...) |
| 20:26:42 | Sebas | I rebooted two or three times when the errors first came out to see if it helped, and while the errors were still there, blob was working ok |
| 20:31:33 | AlHaz | strange |
| 20:31:43 | AlHaz | did you unlock the flash yourself? |
| 20:31:59 | Sebas | Tim unlocked it before shipping |
| 20:32:21 | AlHaz | *nod* |
| 20:32:35 | AlHaz | dunno what to tell you |
| 20:32:49 | AlHaz | if blob really isn't working, you may need jtag to bring it back to life |
| 20:32:57 | Sebas | I guess I simply killed blob... |
| 20:33:06 | Sebas | yeah... I was thinking about jtag... |
| 20:47:46 | GoRK | Sebas: you didn't flash blob did you? |
| 20:51:10 | GoRK | Maybe your flash just failed way too early or something. it'd be important to know the memory addresses of the error. if they are under 64k, you might have accidentally flashed blob instead of kernel with the kernel |
| 22:05:38 | Sebas | I'm back... |
| 22:06:24 | Sebas | no, I didn't wrote down the addresses... |
| 22:06:38 | Sebas | but I'm almost sure there were 4 zeroes (thus above 64k) |
| 22:07:00 | Sebas | also... after the first time I got the errors, I reseted the tuxscreen and blob was still working |
| 22:42:57 | mallum | hmm, python give this when run with the new build script images; |
| 22:43:11 | mallum | # ./python2 |
| 22:43:12 | mallum | ./python2: can't resolve symbol '_stderr' |
| 22:43:12 | mallum | ./python2: can't resolve symbol '_stdin' |
| 22:43:12 | mallum | ./python2: can't resolve symbol '_stdout' |
| 22:43:12 | mallum | Segmentation fault |
| 22:43:16 | mallum | what does that mean ? |