| 00:40:21 | BZFlag | boodle fried his phone? |
| 01:01:20 | Russ | he installed a version a tuxscreen version of a blob |
| 02:07:42 | boodle | hello |
| 02:08:34 | boodle | anyone around? |
| 02:09:12 | boodle | Russ: I built the blob but am unsure if it's a decent build.. if you don't mind, I'd like to try your build (2nd part).. |
| 02:09:43 | boodle | Russ: if not too much trouble, please e-mail it to me at gberenfield@berenfield.com |
| 02:09:54 | boodle | mine of course didn't work for me.. |
| 11:38:38 | bworth | hi all |
| 14:35:11 | blzbubba | whats new |
| 14:35:57 | Russ | people are busy |
| 14:37:34 | blzbubba | you mean everyone isn't paid to be in irc all day |
| 14:37:53 | Russ | only some people |
| 14:56:06 | CosmicPenguin | blzbubba: Aren't we paid to be in IRC all day????? :) |
| 15:19:49 | nikos | is away: Errand and lunch |
| 15:44:10 | BZFlag | hey andersee. you in the office? |
| 15:44:21 | andersee | yup |
| 15:44:36 | andersee | decided to come to work (for a change) |
| 15:45:14 | BZFlag | heh. wanna stay late and rearrange furniture? |
| 15:46:18 | BZFlag | was bored |
| 15:49:21 | BZFlag | No progress here over the weekend. I'd like to know what's up with the ts driver though. |
| 15:50:56 | andersee | Howdy Russ |
| 15:51:15 | Russ|werk | morning |
| 15:51:25 | blzbubba | bzflag do you think someone will have to reload inferno to see if the problem is software or hardware? |
| 15:51:46 | blzbubba | i suspect it's software but it would be nice to know for sure |
| 15:54:30 | andersee | wants to get pulse dialing working on the phone again |
| 16:02:21 | BZFlag | I suspect it's software, but I'm planning on reflashing Inferno just do document the procedure anyway. |
| 16:02:33 | BZFlag | andersee has pulse dialing. ;-) |
| 16:09:59 | nikos | is back |
| 16:11:18 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Any news on the C++ front? |
| 16:11:42 | Russ|werk | or the linuxthreads front |
| 16:13:26 | CosmicPenguin | No pressure of course..... :) |
| 16:16:33 | nikos | What is this? The all-ops channel? ;) |
| 16:18:59 | blzbubba | i've been in a few of those. |
| 16:19:10 | blzbubba | generally when there are less than 20-30 people it doesn't get out of control |
| 16:20:08 | nikos | I'm not sure about ibot having ops, to my knowledge he has no use for it, but he could possibly be tricked into doing some nasty things. |
| 16:21:16 | nikos | Thanks |
| 16:28:58 | mallum | what can I do with ops ? |
| 16:29:07 | mallum | is irc newbie |
| 16:32:03 | nikos | mallum: whatever you want, set the topic, kick and ban users, etc. |
| 16:36:03 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: you there? |
| 16:36:39 | blzbubba | mallum it isn't that exciting, really. once you've kicked a couple of users the excitement wears off |
| 16:37:01 | mallum | heh |
| 16:37:02 | blzbubba | some channels let you set the topic without having ops |
| 16:37:46 | mallum | :) |
| 16:38:02 | blzbubba | yeah, no ops required for /topic here |
| 16:38:44 | blzbubba | luckily we don't have anyone here who needs a good kickbanning |
| 16:43:32 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Well, I started compiling gcc 2.95.4 vs uClibc on x86 on Friday, and found several macros that were supposed to be functions. Fixed those. |
| 16:44:05 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: I am here... |
| 16:44:16 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Still not quite there yet on the C++ front, but getting much closer. |
| 16:44:55 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I havn't added the constructor/destructor stuff yet either. Which reminds me -- you have patches in that area? |
| 16:45:14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Let me DCC you what I've got from crt0.S |
| 16:46:26 | andersee | k |
| 16:46:33 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I just basically did a cut and paste from the m69k stuff, so it either wasn't complicated, or I missed something..... :) |
| 16:46:50 | andersee | Isn't really compilcated.... |
| 16:53:26 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: what are the specs for that sa arm chipset tuxscreen |
| 16:54:07 | ctr | thing? |
| 16:54:50 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: The best thing to do is to examine the wiki closely (http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/ |
| 16:55:28 | ctr | ok |
| 16:55:37 | ctr | how many are there left, do you know? |
| 16:55:45 | ctr | it's just am very interested |
| 16:55:49 | ctr | but dont get paid until next week |
| 16:56:10 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: The man with all the answers is in our midst.... BZFlag... :) |
| 16:56:45 | ctr | BZFlag: you alive? |
| 16:57:14 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: i have been lurking around microwindows for ages |
| 16:57:18 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: quitely on the mailing lists |
| 16:57:53 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Glad you came around.... I could use a hand with the Microwindows apps..... :) |
| 16:58:32 | ctr | hahahaa |
| 16:58:43 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Why so funny? |
| 16:58:44 | ctr | well i am currently a enlightenment wm developer |
| 16:58:50 | ctr | i have written my own scripting engine |
| 16:59:13 | ctr | well i am pretty much up to my eyeballs with work :) |
| 16:59:17 | ctr | but i saw your emailand though |
| 16:59:20 | ctr | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 16:59:20 | ctr | toy :) |
| 16:59:31 | ctr | somethng worth getting to play with |
| 16:59:54 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Good enough.... its a fun toy..... |
| 17:00:17 | ctr | how much ram does ithave? and what speed is the proc? |
| 17:01:08 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: There is 4MB of flash, and 16MB (I think) of ram which can be upgraded. Its a SA100 processor running at 206Mhz |
| 17:01:28 | ctr | nice |
| 17:01:33 | ctr | nice |
| 17:01:33 | ctr | hmmm |
| 17:01:38 | ctr | could get two |
| 17:01:43 | ctr | and have one spare |
| 17:01:49 | ctr | and pull out the solfering iron on the other |
| 17:01:51 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: There are a couple of PCMCIA slots on the side which nicely accomodate CF flash cards / microdrives and nic cards.... |
| 17:01:55 | blzbubba | not a bad idea |
| 17:02:30 | ctr | reshape it to be more uiseful |
| 17:02:34 | ctr | hmm |
| 17:02:45 | ctr | is it likely to work in the uk |
| 17:02:51 | ctr | *think* |
| 17:03:06 | andersee | The nice thing about these phone -- even if you break the phone, the touch screen panel by itself is worth more then you pay for the whole phone... :) |
| 17:03:13 | ctr | hmmmmmm |
| 17:03:18 | ctr | touch screen? |
| 17:03:22 | ctr | cmcia slots? |
| 17:03:25 | andersee | indeed |
| 17:03:28 | ctr | ok |
| 17:03:30 | ctr | i want one |
| 17:03:32 | ctr | :) |
| 17:03:38 | blzbubba | assuming you could find a way to use it. those lcd controllers aren't cheap, are they? |
| 17:03:46 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: We don't have touchtone working on the phone yet, BZFlag and friends are still looking at the DSP...... |
| 17:03:55 | ctr | i could put a pcmcia network card in it |
| 17:03:59 | andersee | I have one -- and plan to buy another |
| 17:04:05 | ctr | and use it as a method of selecting music to play |
| 17:04:06 | blzbubba | ctr i just got one friday; it works well |
| 17:04:10 | ctr | ok |
| 17:04:19 | blzbubba | kingston cf ethernet |
| 17:04:27 | blzbubba | no dongle needed thankfull |
| 17:04:29 | blzbubba | y |
| 17:04:31 | andersee | ctr: see the wiki -- only pccard network cards work, not cardbus... |
| 17:04:46 | ctr | so my laptop ones wont work? |
| 17:05:15 | ctr | oooh |
| 17:05:17 | andersee | ctr: for an mp3 player, madplay works nicely on arm (used fixed point math). mpg123 sucks rocks on arm. |
| 17:05:23 | ctr | tim sells network cards aswell |
| 17:05:39 | andersee | yup.. will bundle 'em for $20 more |
| 17:05:42 | ctr | andersee: nah i am thinking plugging it up to the lan here andusing as a small terminal |
| 17:05:46 | ctr | ok |
| 17:05:53 | ctr | i need bzflag here now :) |
| 17:06:03 | ctr | how well dos X work on it? |
| 17:06:04 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: BZFlag sez that the audio goes through the phone DSP......... |
| 17:06:21 | andersee | Oh? interesting. |
| 17:06:21 | ctr | does the phone work? |
| 17:06:21 | ctr | :) |
| 17:06:27 | andersee | ctr: yep |
| 17:06:39 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: If you like pulse dialing.... :) |
| 17:06:42 | andersee | speaker phone doesn't work w/Linux yet. |
| 17:06:49 | Russ|werk | yah, I need to send the DSP some commands to route the sound to the speaker |
| 17:06:51 | ctr | does the phone work under linux? |
| 17:06:57 | andersee | plans to get tone dialing working ASAP |
| 17:07:50 | andersee | is going to pester BZFlag today at work till he gives me the plans to the rebel base |
| 17:07:58 | ctr | heh |
| 17:08:31 | andersee | ctl: FYI, BZFlag and I sit next to each other at work (when I come into work that is) |
| 17:08:39 | ctr | oic |
| 17:08:44 | ctr | kick arse |
| 17:08:53 | ctr | uhm |
| 17:08:54 | BZFlag | is here |
| 17:08:58 | ctr | BZFlag: ahhh |
| 17:09:11 | ctr | BZFlag: do you have many phones left? (aswell as the network cards) |
| 17:09:42 | BZFlag | over 1000 still. |
| 17:10:08 | andersee | BZFlag remind me to buy another one... |
| 17:10:24 | ctr | BZFlag: ok |
| 17:10:45 | ctr | BZFlag: how much would it cost to ship one + network card to the uk? |
| 17:10:50 | BZFlag | andersee: you'll never get the plans to the rebel base. Oh! Not Alderon! We are peaceful, we have no weapons.... boom. |
| 17:11:49 | andersee | Governor Tarkin. I thought I recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board. |
| 17:11:52 | BZFlag | ctr: http://ircalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Great+Britain+and+Northern+Ireland&Pounds=8&Ounces=0&cmdSubmit=Continue&Contents=1 |
| 17:12:11 | BZFlag | andersee: hehe |
| 17:12:31 | andersee | Charming. To the last. |
| 17:12:37 | BZFlag | andersee: " BZFlag and I sit next to each other at work" and when I come into work. ;-) |
| 17:13:17 | andersee | Well, if you don't come into work, you can't very well sell me another phone now can you? |
| 17:14:40 | BZFlag | heh, There might be a boxed one in my cube right now. And paypal is your friend. ;-) But easier if I come in, yes. |
| 17:15:57 | ctr | ok |
| 17:16:06 | ctr | so if i chose the 4-7day delivery |
| 17:16:09 | ctr | it'd be |
| 17:17:47 | ctr | $99 (for unit) + $20 (for network card) + $41 for shipping? |
| 17:17:51 | BZFlag | ctr: the weight was a guess assuming I just add the CF card inside the box. It's about right. |
| 17:18:53 | ctr | because i dont want to wait 4-6 weeks |
| 17:18:53 | blzbubba | jay & silent bob get to have a light saber fight with Mark Hamill in strikes back. kinda funny |
| 17:18:59 | BZFlag | ctr: and you will have to pay vat over there. You might also want to insure it for $120 usd |
| 17:19:03 | ctr | to only save $12 |
| 17:19:37 | BZFlag | http://ircalc.usps.gov/details.asp?txtMaxIndemnity=2020&txtIndemnity=120&RadioReturn=0&Method=20&Cost=41&Commit=4+-+7+Days&MethodText=Airmail+Parcel+Post&Country=Great+Britain+and+Northern+Ireland&Pounds=8&Ounces=0&Oversize=&GXGNonWeight=Max.length+60%22%2C+max.+length+plus+girth+108%22&bCOM=True&bPickup=True&bReturnReceipt=True&RadioSS=2&cmdSubmit=Continue |
| 17:19:55 | BZFlag | $44.60 including insurance. |
| 17:20:10 | ctr | yep |
| 17:20:13 | ctr | uhm |
| 17:20:15 | ctr | no |
| 17:20:19 | ctr | i shouldn't have to pay vat |
| 17:20:40 | BZFlag | no? I think erikm did when I shipped one to him. |
| 17:20:55 | ctr | hmmm |
| 17:21:21 | ctr | how much did he have to pay? |
| 17:21:42 | ctr | and who did he have to pay the VAT to? |
| 17:21:56 | mallum | ctr: I got clobbered by customs ( to the uk ) although the package had 'for repair' clearly marked on it |
| 17:22:10 | mallum | ctr: they charged my an extra 40 quid on 2 tuxscreens |
| 17:22:15 | ctr | hmmmm |
| 17:22:33 | BZFlag | mallum: yours was not marked USD was it? |
| 17:22:53 | mallum | BZFlag: one sec I'll check |
| 17:22:54 | ctr | BZFlag: which side had to pay the tax? |
| 17:23:07 | BZFlag | I mark all the non-us shipments clearly as USD now. |
| 17:23:24 | BZFlag | ctr: your side. I just fill out the customs paperwork here. |
| 17:23:47 | mallum | BZFlag: yes , mine had the value on it |
| 17:24:09 | ctr | mallum: you in the uk? |
| 17:24:15 | mallum | BZFlag, ctr: The parcel force guy said if I contacted customs I would probably get my money back and they shouldn't have charged me |
| 17:24:19 | BZFlag | mallum: marked as USD? |
| 17:24:23 | mallum | ctr: yep, n.london |
| 17:24:34 | ctr | mallum: did you have to poay the parcel force guy? |
| 17:24:50 | BZFlag | mallum: shouldn't have charged you -- why? |
| 17:25:11 | mallum | BZFlag: only the postage value specifys $ |
| 17:25:25 | BZFlag | ah |
| 17:25:30 | mallum | BZFlag: as they were for repair and older than 6 months |
| 17:25:56 | ctr | BZFlag: well anyways, i will still want one |
| 17:26:03 | mallum | ctr: yes I had to give the money to parcel force before they'd give me the package |
| 17:26:05 | BZFlag | how do they determine the "age" ? |
| 17:26:14 | ctr | BZFlag: i currently am waiting to be paid (which should be friday) |
| 17:26:29 | ctr | BZFlag: and so i shall sort it out mid next |
| 17:26:30 | ctr | week |
| 17:26:31 | mallum | ctr: But even with that extra cost from customs, its still a really good deal |
| 17:26:35 | ctr | but i definatly want one |
| 17:26:40 | ctr | with the network card |
| 17:26:45 | BZFlag | ctr: paypal when you are ready. or I'll take check/money order via post if you prefer. |
| 17:26:56 | mallum | BZFlag: I just told them it was older than 6 months |
| 17:27:09 | BZFlag | the cards should be in on Wed or Thurs this week. |
| 17:27:13 | mallum | BZFlag: CUstoms hadn't opened the box's up or nothing |
| 17:27:13 | ctr | BZFlag: nah it's cool i'll do paypal mi next week |
| 17:27:24 | BZFlag | mallum: cool. |
| 17:27:28 | ctr | BZFlag: all i want you to do is just should how many $$'s it's going to be |
| 17:27:38 | ctr | (i guess about $170) |
| 17:28:28 | ctr | also |
| 17:28:42 | mallum | ctr: I think it cost me 270$ for two, with no network cards |
| 17:28:44 | ctr | how easy is it to get linux up and running on this thing? |
| 17:28:52 | mallum | ctr: I managed it :) |
| 17:28:53 | ctr | and is the screen colour? |
| 17:28:54 | BZFlag | ctr: I include an itemized receipt. |
| 17:29:03 | BZFlag | yes 640x480 8 bit |
| 17:29:15 | ctr | cool |
| 17:29:44 | ctr | mallum: thats about 200 quid isn't it? |
| 17:32:05 | ctr | bounces |
| 17:32:15 | ctr | this is the most exciting thing i have found in a while :) |
| 17:32:28 | ctr | this and next week looks as though it could be plenty of fun :) |
| 17:34:57 | ctr | whats this jtag thing? |
| 17:35:26 | andersee | Thats for when your_really_ hose up your phone... |
| 17:35:34 | ctr | ok |
| 17:35:40 | ctr | so i dont need one to start off with? |
| 17:35:45 | andersee | It allows you to poke stuff into memory directly. |
| 17:36:15 | ctr | ok |
| 17:36:20 | ctr | do i need one to put linux on there? |
| 17:36:24 | andersee | With the groundwork that has already been done, you don't need one (unless you mess up badly when trying to follow directions) |
| 17:36:47 | andersee | nope, not needed to put Linux on there. |
| 17:38:06 | mallum | ctr: yep about 200 pounds |
| 17:38:35 | ctr | hmm cool |
| 17:38:41 | mallum | ctr: you need an extra set of hands really to do the install |
| 17:38:47 | ctr | all this should set me back about 110 squid |
| 17:38:51 | ctr | mallum: yeah? how come |
| 17:40:29 | mallum | ctr: well one to apply the voltage to the circuit board, the other to send the data down the serial cable |
| 17:40:43 | ctr | oh shit :) |
| 17:40:47 | ctr | it's that kinda install? |
| 17:40:53 | mallum | ctr: you could probably do it by yourself, but probably easier with someone to help |
| 17:41:20 | mallum | ctr: its fun :) seriously though its *not* that bad |
| 17:41:29 | ctr | where can i find the instructions? |
| 17:41:34 | mallum | ctr: Im crap with electronics and stuff and I managed it |
| 17:41:51 | ctr | mallum: this is going to become my cool hack project |
| 17:41:54 | ctr | hmm |
| 17:41:56 | blzbubba | it's on the tuxscreen.net site |
| 17:42:00 | ctr | how much are ibm microdrives? |
| 17:42:14 | blzbubba | big $$$, the 1 gig is like $500 |
| 17:42:16 | ctr | blzbubba: yeah am looking aroundit now |
| 17:44:00 | ctr | any hints? |
| 17:44:09 | ctr | i can't seem to find any reference to instructions |
| 17:44:32 | mallum | ctr: microdrives appear randomly on todayonly.co.uk . they do OEM 1 gig ones ( *just* the drive ) for as low as 250 |
| 17:44:53 | ctr | mallum: cool |
| 17:45:08 | ctr | mallum: see it'd be a nice little bit of kit to put down stairs and netowrk up to my network |
| 17:45:14 | ctr | so i can hack0r and be on the net etc |
| 17:45:18 | ctr | plus it's aphone :) |
| 17:45:55 | mallum | gets expat compiled with uClibc |
| 17:46:16 | blzbubba | ctr try this: http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/FlashUnlock |
| 17:46:40 | ctr | hmmm |
| 17:46:43 | ctr | see |
| 17:46:48 | ctr | ithink the answer is nfs :) |
| 17:47:02 | ctr | blzbubba: thanks :) |
| 17:47:10 | blzbubba | no problem |
| 17:48:01 | blzbubba | some people soldered wires to it; we just used 2 people - one to hold the 12v wires onto the contacts there; and one to do the commands on the terminal |
| 17:48:21 | ctr | ok |
| 17:48:28 | BZFlag | I figure since I'll have an ethernet card anyway, that nfs is the way to go. ;-) |
| 17:48:31 | ctr | where do you get the 12v's from? |
| 17:48:38 | ctr | BZFlag: yeah |
| 17:48:46 | ctr | BZFlag: thats why i want the network card |
| 17:48:47 | ctr | :) |
| 17:48:51 | andersee | BZFlag has this little battery holder thingee... |
| 17:48:53 | BZFlag | ctr: see the bottom of the page: http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/FlashUnlock |
| 17:49:05 | blzbubba | how about a car battery |
| 17:49:18 | nikos | boom |
| 17:49:26 | andersee | I expect the amperage might be a problem -- would cause arcing... |
| 17:49:29 | ctr | gotcha |
| 17:49:36 | blzbubba | more seriously, there are many ways to do it; for example a lot of modem power supplies are 12V dc |
| 17:49:54 | ctr | how long does it take to unlock the flash |
| 17:49:55 | blzbubba | or any misc peripherals |
| 17:49:56 | ctr | a few seconds? |
| 17:50:01 | blzbubba | it only took a few seconds |
| 17:50:03 | BZFlag | yeah, seconds. |
| 17:50:20 | ctr | and tehn you can flash it? |
| 17:50:28 | BZFlag | I'll unlock it for ya for $25 usd. Not that I want to, just that so many people have asked. |
| 17:50:39 | BZFlag | I updated the wiki with that info. |
| 17:50:54 | mallum | ctr: I got a 12v battery holder from maplins for 50p |
| 17:50:58 | BZFlag | AlHaz might do it for $20. /me pokes AlHaz |
| 17:51:28 | mallum | flash pimping |
| 17:51:32 | AlHaz | eh? yeah |
| 17:51:38 | ctr | nah |
| 17:51:43 | ctr | i'll do it :) |
| 17:51:52 | ctr | it'll add a certain amount of fun to it :) |
| 17:53:20 | AlHaz | I need to build a prototype of my new concept for a 12v jig |
| 17:53:51 | AlHaz | actually, what i really need to do is go take a shower and go to work, spent all morning making it possible for an electrician to access all the outlets that have gone dead in my house. |
| 17:53:55 | BZFlag | is glad to see ctr choose that route. ;-) |
| 17:54:03 | blzbubba | my next project is powering the whole tuxscreen with 12v |
| 17:54:08 | BZFlag | AlHaz: are they working yet? |
| 17:54:21 | blzbubba | without resorting to an inverter of course |
| 17:54:26 | AlHaz | well, not dead, really, dead is one thing, they've gone wonky. neutral is grounded, i think. |
| 17:54:37 | AlHaz | BZFlag: No, electrician hasn't even called me back :/ |
| 17:54:56 | BZFlag | ah. bummer. I better head into work too. cya there. |
| 17:55:46 | AlHaz | I have this problem that after i move in somewhere, I never quite finish moving in. I had to finish moving in, get all the boxes & stuff out of the livingroom . . . . 'course I've been here two years. Have you guessed yet that I'm single? |
| 17:55:52 | AlHaz | ANYway . . . |
| 17:58:08 | ctr | ok |
| 17:58:32 | ctr | how easy is it to update to new kernls etc with the phone once you have gnoen trhough the intial steps? |
| 18:01:50 | ctr | sorry to be a pain in the arse :) |
| 18:01:53 | CosmicPenguin | Welcome to wild kingdom -- I just caught a huge spider on my cube...... |
| 18:01:59 | CosmicPenguin | s/on/in |
| 18:09:51 | ctr | whats the state of play with microwindows on the tuxscreen |
| 18:17:30 | AlHaz | ctr: it's very easy to update the kernel and root fs after the blob is installed |
| 18:18:41 | ctr | cool |
| 18:18:59 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: State of play? |
| 18:19:40 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: yeah what's working and not working, and do you have any screenshots |
| 18:20:01 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: i was reading the webpage and i'd be happy (once I have the kit) to put some time into helping you |
| 18:20:31 | ctr | looks interesting |
| 18:20:34 | ctr | although |
| 18:21:01 | ctr | things certainly need a cosmetic lift :) |
| 18:26:34 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: You trashing on my artistic abilities? |
| 18:26:41 | ctr | yes i am :) |
| 18:26:47 | ctr | but i am being constructive |
| 18:27:31 | ctr | from all the screen shots the interface doesn't look that great |
| 18:27:32 | ctr | imho |
| 18:27:37 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: I have no artistic abilities, so no worries..... |
| 18:27:42 | ctr | not something that is going to blow the socks off of people |
| 18:27:59 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Please feel free to design something new. You draw it and I'll code it.... |
| 18:28:01 | ctr | which is what you want |
| 18:28:05 | ctr | hahah |
| 18:28:08 | ctr | i can code :) |
| 18:28:37 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Coding is all i have... if you take that from me, then I have no purpose.... |
| 18:28:55 | ctr | no no no |
| 18:28:59 | ctr | iu am offering to help |
| 18:29:04 | ctr | i can't prmiose anything |
| 18:29:09 | ctr | but i will certainly become commited |
| 18:29:10 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Just having a little fun with you.... :) |
| 18:29:20 | ctr | once i get my hands on the kit |
| 18:29:31 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 18:30:03 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Anyway, so far I have a touchscreen calibrator, the window manager, a terminal emulator, a game and a browser.... |
| 18:30:03 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: what i was thinking was this |
| 18:30:18 | ctr | CosmicPenguin: when i get my hands on the kit |
| 18:30:25 | ctr | i will need some help setting up a devel enviroment |
| 18:30:38 | ctr | i will then port Imlib2 and evas to microwindows |
| 18:30:46 | ctr | allowing image maniipulations |
| 18:30:54 | ctr | and a canvas for doing things :) |
| 18:31:09 | ctr | god damn |
| 18:31:14 | ctr | this is a great cup of tea |
| 18:31:15 | ctr | :) |
| 18:31:18 | ctr | sorry side tracking |
| 18:33:21 | ctr | but yes |
| 18:33:23 | ctr | am very excited |
| 18:33:32 | ctr | just thinkingof all the cool stuff i could do withit |
| 18:36:02 | BZFlag | http://simon.morlat.free.fr/english/linphone.html |
| 18:37:58 | ctr | can you make phone calls on the phone? |
| 18:38:31 | ctr | BZFlag: cool |
| 18:48:42 | kR_ | 64 |
| 18:50:00 | boodle | Hello |
| 19:04:53 | Russ|werk | andersee: can you add a udhcp "module" to bugs.lineo.com? |
| 19:43:20 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: How is udhcp coming along? |
| 19:47:00 | Russ|werk | good |
| 19:47:08 | Russ|werk | getting ready to release 0.9.4 |
| 19:47:10 | ctr | udhcp? |
| 19:47:31 | nikos | uclibc dhcp client I'm guessing |
| 19:47:36 | Russ|werk | embedded dhcp client/server package |
| 19:48:17 | mallum | do you have a url for it ? |
| 19:48:56 | Russ|werk | oss.lineo.com |
| 19:49:58 | mallum | Does anyone else here like Python ? |
| 19:50:38 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Monty? |
| 19:50:45 | CosmicPenguin | .... :) |
| 19:50:56 | ctr | how does glibc work on the phones |
| 19:51:01 | ctr | ie over nfs |
| 19:51:17 | nikos | mallum: I guess you know my opinion. ;) |
| 19:52:06 | mallum | nikos: you got your phone yet ? |
| 19:52:21 | nikos | mallum: Nope, I've blown my wad on ALS. |
| 19:52:34 | nikos | mallum: And I'm lazy. |
| 19:52:36 | mallum | nikos: your going then ? |
| 19:52:51 | nikos | mallum: Yep, got my tickets today, sjohnson has made our hotel reservations. |
| 19:52:55 | mallum | wishes nikos would get a phone so he could share his python efforts |
| 19:53:12 | mallum | nikos: cworth going ? |
| 19:53:17 | nikos | mallum: I'm not sure. |
| 19:53:54 | ctr | i am going to get one next week |
| 19:53:57 | ctr | is all ecited |
| 19:54:01 | mallum | nikos: but jg ,keithp, a7r going ? |
| 19:54:21 | nikos | mallum: Yes, a7r at least has to be there for his talk. |
| 19:54:38 | nikos | mallum: He'll probably drag Morph up with him. |
| 19:54:53 | nikos | up, down, over, whatever |
| 19:55:00 | ctr | mallum: what do you do with your phones? |
| 19:55:01 | mallum | Im gonna try and get over still, if money is good nearer the time |
| 19:55:20 | mallum | ctr: dont know, dont care ;) |
| 19:55:27 | ctr | hahaha |
| 19:55:32 | nikos | mallum: It would be great to have you, but I can certainly understand monetary issues, I could also understand boycotting over the Skylarov thing. |
| 19:55:34 | ctr | mallum: do the phones actually work? |
| 19:55:51 | nikos | ctr: As phones I don't think any software is necessary. |
| 19:55:54 | mallum | nikos: alan cox boycotting ? |
| 19:56:03 | ctr | cool |
| 19:56:07 | nikos | mallum: I'm sure, unless there is a major turn around before then. |
| 19:56:10 | ctr | because it could sit on my desk |
| 19:56:14 | ctr | hooked into the network |
| 19:56:19 | mallum | ctr: yes the phones work fine over here, but callerID dont |
| 19:56:24 | ctr | and i could also use it as my landline |
| 19:56:30 | ctr | mallum: hmm, shame |
| 19:56:44 | ctr | mallum: can you play with the calling and that sort of thing through linux? |
| 19:57:04 | mallum | ctr: not sure yet ..... I think its coming |
| 19:57:13 | ctr | cool |
| 19:57:17 | ctr | with that and touch screen |
| 19:57:23 | ctr | i could write some amazingly cool shit |
| 19:57:44 | mallum | ctr: Im thinking of maybe building some sort of phone <-> jabber gateway ... maybe |
| 19:57:52 | ctr | hmm |
| 19:57:58 | ctr | damn |
| 19:58:03 | ctr | ferite could be ported to it |
| 19:58:08 | ctr | and i could write some grerat apps |
| 19:58:30 | mallum | ferite ? |
| 19:58:42 | ctr | http://www.ferite.org |
| 19:58:51 | ctr | my programming language :) |
| 19:59:18 | ctr | hrmm |
| 19:59:25 | ctr | i wonder how e17 would work on it :) |
| 19:59:33 | mallum | nikos: I have some friends in palo alto that say I can stay, just depends on how cheap a flight I can get |
| 19:59:58 | nikos | mallum: That would be cool |
| 20:00:38 | mallum | nikos: yes I do like America |
| 20:00:52 | mallum | nikos: especially west coast |
| 20:02:02 | nikos | mallum: I've never been to Cali before. |
| 20:02:18 | nikos | Well, I was in the airport for an hour or so when I was a kid, that doesn't count. |
| 20:02:25 | mallum | nikos: heh |
| 20:03:31 | mallum | ctr: is e17 that new enlightenment stuff ? |
| 20:03:51 | ctr | mallum: yeah |
| 20:03:56 | ctr | mallum: i am a core developer :) |
| 20:04:21 | mallum | ctr: cool, you good with xlib ? |
| 20:04:26 | ctr | not too bad |
| 20:04:45 | mallum | notes ctr as a person to hassle with xlib problems ;) |
| 20:04:51 | ctr | hahahaha |
| 20:05:18 | mallum | ctr: I dont get all the wm interaction stuff with xlib |
| 20:05:42 | ctr | it's pretty stright forward |
| 20:05:58 | mallum | ctr: hmmmm |
| 20:05:59 | ctr | just a couple more evetns the wm handles |
| 20:06:23 | nikos | I finally broke down and bought X Core Library and Standards |
| 20:06:47 | mallum | nikos: I only have the orielly xlib book |
| 20:06:56 | mallum | nikos: is that the big jim gettys one ? |
| 20:07:32 | ctr | i dont havbe any X books :) |
| 20:08:00 | nikos | mallum: Yeah, JG and Bob Scheifler |
| 20:08:12 | andersee | mallum: BZFlag is an XFree86 developer... |
| 20:08:28 | nikos | We already bug BZFlag more than is legal. |
| 20:08:39 | mallum | nikos: i was gonna get that, but decieded it was far too heavy to carry back on the bus ;) |
| 20:09:25 | mallum | Dont worry everyone, Im not looking to bug anyone soon with xlib questions :) |
| 20:09:35 | ctr | hahaha |
| 20:09:37 | ctr | good :) |
| 20:09:40 | mallum | xkbd already has all the x code |
| 20:09:50 | mallum | just need to fix the layout stuff |
| 20:10:06 | mallum | which is kind of nearly done ... |
| 20:11:39 | ctr | how well does X run on the phone? |
| 20:12:53 | mallum | I think theres issues with the touch screen |
| 20:19:46 | blzbubba | X runs well enough on the phone if you're lucky enough to have a working touch screen |
| 20:19:54 | blzbubba | as well as you can expect for 640x480x8bit |
| 20:20:09 | blzbubba | i brought up kde on it via XDMCP just for fun |
| 20:20:34 | mallum | blzbubba: working tuxscreen ? |
| 20:21:27 | Russ|werk | andersee: is closing that bug report paradoxical? |
| 20:21:49 | andersee | heh. Thought youd like that. :) |
| 20:21:58 | blzbubba | mallum i mean a working /dev/ts |
| 20:21:59 | mallum | blzbubba: my touch screen worked with inferno ? |
| 20:22:04 | blzbubba | same here |
| 20:22:08 | Russ|werk | makes sure email is working |
| 20:22:12 | mallum | blzbubba: you got me worried then :) |
| 20:22:34 | Russ|werk | you might want to close the udhcp mailing lists, I don't really use them, and they are a bit confused |
| 20:22:38 | blzbubba | i think bzflag got a unit with the same issue; he's going to reload inferno to see if it comes back |
| 20:22:47 | andersee | k -- will do. |
| 20:22:48 | blzbubba | when he gets a chance |
| 20:22:51 | BZFlag | seems like the touchscreen has some state info we are not setting. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't I ahve no looked into it yet. |
| 20:23:01 | Russ|werk | the devel one doesn't exist, the cvs one doesn't get commit messages, and the general one gets the cvs commits |
| 20:23:06 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: ? |
| 20:23:10 | blzbubba | on sale 9/16 |
| 20:23:33 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: I have a phone that works and a phone where the ts does not work. both have the same software. |
| 20:23:58 | BZFlag | both worked under inferno. |
| 20:24:05 | nikos | BZFlag: ouch |
| 20:24:07 | andersee | So you want the lists all killed. Will do. Want a new set of lists or no? |
| 20:24:07 | Russ|werk | hmmm |
| 20:24:22 | Russ|werk | I don't know... |
| 20:24:28 | ctr | BZFlag: so the touch screen could be operation at somepoint soon? |
| 20:24:40 | Russ|werk | andersee: I don't see a need for one right now |
| 20:24:53 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: did you check if the pcb's have different revisions? |
| 20:25:05 | blzbubba | ctr hard to predict when someone will figure it out. it might require someone with inferno source access |
| 20:25:13 | BZFlag | the touch screen works fine, when it works. |
| 20:25:16 | ctr | hrmpt |
| 20:25:19 | ctr | :) |
| 20:25:41 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: not yet, but I have not seen different revs in the others I opened. |
| 20:26:15 | BZFlag | the one that does not work is the one that the pictures on the site are from. My jtag equipped unit. |
| 20:26:37 | BZFlag | I've done a lot of hacking on it, so I'm going to put Inferno back as a sanity check. |
| 20:26:39 | blzbubba | that's lucky |
| 20:26:58 | blzbubba | if you have to reload inferno, at least you already have the jtag just in case |
| 20:27:36 | BZFlag | yep. That's one reason for doing it on this machine. Also I will create a wiki page that documents it so others can get back to Inferno if they want to. |
| 20:27:58 | BZFlag | might get to it tonight. |
| 20:30:40 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: I had familiar running on my tux shortly before my household wiring went out |
| 20:31:12 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: orientation was wrong, but it did work |
| 20:31:34 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: I hacked the orientation in the kernel. |
| 20:31:53 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: cool |
| 20:32:12 | Aelhaz | it couldn't calibrate the touchscreen, and it was about 5 pixels off, diagonally, so that was disorienting |
| 20:32:33 | ctr | so some touch screens work and some dont? |
| 20:32:33 | Aelhaz | when i went to get my camera to take a screenshot, by the time i got back the screen had gone to sleep and didn't come back |
| 20:33:10 | BZFlag | Yeah, the cal setting in the kernel are off. We need to calibrate it once and record more accurate values. |
| 20:33:33 | blzbubba | ctr they all work in inferno; some don't (yet) work in Linux but I think we'll figure out the bug soon. |
| 20:33:42 | blzbubba | i hope so since I have one of the buggy ones |
| 20:33:51 | BZFlag | ctr: a few people have reported them not working under linux when they did under Inferno. So something is not getting setup correctly. |
| 20:34:17 | ctr | BZFlag: but most of the time it works under linux? |
| 20:34:33 | BZFlag | ctr: I have one that works, and one that doesn't |
| 20:34:40 | ctr | ok |
| 20:34:46 | ctr | well i hope i get one that works :) |
| 20:35:01 | BZFlag | the one that works always works, the one that doesn't never works. |
| 20:35:02 | blzbubba | ctr it looks like a majority of them work. If you're paranoid; you might wait until Tim reloads inferno to make sure it's just a software bug |
| 20:35:10 | ctr | k |
| 20:35:14 | BZFlag | It's not a phone issue. it's a software issue. |
| 20:35:20 | ctr | well i am not ordering until next week anyways |
| 20:35:42 | ctr | because i can't go ordering toys without being paid |
| 20:35:46 | ctr | as i need to live :) |
| 20:35:54 | blzbubba | where are your priorities |
| 20:36:03 | ctr | well |
| 20:36:06 | ctr | i work on the basis |
| 20:36:07 | blzbubba | j/k |
| 20:36:14 | ctr | that if i live till next week |
| 20:36:22 | ctr | andget one of these things |
| 20:36:32 | ctr | then i can at least put some serious time into hack0ring it :) |
| 20:38:43 | ctr | god damn |
| 20:38:44 | ctr | am excited |
| 20:38:45 | ctr | :) |
| 20:41:29 | BZFlag | anyone notice I added a MindIt button to the wiki pages? ;-) |
| 20:42:28 | Russ|werk | what is "MindIt"? |
| 20:42:36 | Russ|werk | email you on updates? |
| 20:42:48 | BZFlag | yep |
| 20:45:06 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: You getting alot of orders lately? |
| 20:45:48 | BZFlag | 1-2 a day lately. |
| 20:46:04 | BZFlag | I wish it was like 6-8/day though. |
| 20:46:30 | nikos | BZFlag: The big question is how to ramp up to that but not much higher. Minimize peaking. |
| 20:46:32 | Russ|werk | once we get the phone working, it should be more |
| 20:46:39 | BZFlag | I have not done any marketing on them, it's purely work of mouth. |
| 20:46:43 | nikos | BZFlag: How about a Tuxscreen story on HH.org frontpage? |
| 20:47:01 | BZFlag | nikos: that's a good idea. wanna write one? |
| 20:47:16 | nikos | BZFlag: How about if I keep it simple and link to tuxscreen.net? |
| 20:47:45 | BZFlag | Bruce Perens is talking about an article in Linux Journal. |
| 20:47:58 | nikos | Cool |
| 20:48:27 | BZFlag | nikos: sure. a simple message about Familiar on the TuxScreen and a link would be great. |
| 20:48:44 | BZFlag | Intimate should run there as well. ;-) |
| 20:48:45 | nikos | BZFlag: Let me write something up real quick and I will run it by you first... |
| 20:48:50 | BZFlag | sweet |
| 20:49:32 | ctr | BZFlag: on the basis that goner generate a load of people wanting them |
| 20:49:46 | ctr | BZFlag: can you make sure you dont sell all of them =P |
| 20:49:52 | BZFlag | A few peak days would be ok. If I got like 300 orders in a few days I'd just take some time of work and get em all out the door. |
| 20:50:00 | ctr | BZFlag: and not all of the network cards :) |
| 20:50:27 | BZFlag | heh. I don't have that many cards. perhaps I should remove that section from the order page first. |
| 20:50:39 | BZFlag | hmmm... /me moves it to the pcmcia page... |
| 20:51:09 | ctr | BZFlag: well can you make sure you keep atleast one for me |
| 20:51:15 | ctr | BZFlag: i definatly want to buy one |
| 20:51:27 | ctr | BZFlag: just middle of next week is when it's going to happen :) |
| 20:51:42 | nikos | BZFlag: It's not much but how about: |
| 20:51:44 | nikos | <dt>8/27/2001</dt> |
| 20:51:44 | nikos | <dd> |
| 20:51:44 | nikos | Run Linux, Familiar and Intimate on your phone! See the |
| 20:51:44 | nikos | <a href="http://tuxscreen.net">TuxScreen project</a> for more information. |
| 20:51:44 | nikos | </dd> |
| 20:52:24 | BZFlag | nikos: excellent! |
| 20:53:15 | BZFlag | oh, can you cap the url? "http://TuxScreen.net/" ? |
| 20:53:24 | nikos | damn, cvs update is not workin again. |
| 20:53:25 | nikos | oops, sure |
| 20:53:58 | BZFlag | thanx. /me starts to feel like a marketing guy... |
| 20:54:19 | nikos | hacks into hh.org again... |
| 20:54:54 | nikos | BZFlag: Pushed onto the front page now. |
| 20:54:56 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: now you just need to put pictures of intelligent looking people using one on your page |
| 20:56:07 | BZFlag | ctr: I'm not planning on keeping track of reservations, but there are a lot of phones still. |
| 20:56:27 | nikos | BZFlag: You should make the LOW! LOW! price more obvious on the page. |
| 20:56:33 | nikos | BZFlag: If not on the front page. |
| 20:57:00 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: oh no... /me hears "Move into the new century with a new essential home appliance!..." |
| 20:57:02 | CosmicPenguin | nikos: Send out the word to the familiar/ipaq mailing lists as well..... |
| 20:57:27 | CosmicPenguin | I got hooked from a SLUG e-mail, and ctr came over from nanogui list.... |
| 20:57:30 | nikos | My be best if BZFlag did that so he can field responses. |
| 20:57:35 | nikos | s/My/Might/ |
| 20:57:42 | BZFlag | nikos: the sire is hosted by SourceForge, so I don't want it to feel like a sales oriented site. |
| 20:57:51 | nikos | BZFlag: Good point. |
| 20:57:58 | nikos | BZFlag: But put the price in bold at least. ;) |
| 20:58:12 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: the george foreman grille? . . . . |
| 20:58:22 | BZFlag | nikos: that's a good idea... |
| 20:58:59 | Russ|werk | just don't george foreman on there |
| 20:58:59 | Aelhaz | is rebel.com still trying to sell netwinders on ebay, starting at $600/per? |
| 20:59:12 | nikos | BZFlag: Looks good. |
| 20:59:42 | ctr | BZFlag: ok |
| 21:00:19 | Aelhaz | I have misgivings about buying small appliances from a man who gave all his kids the same name . . . |
| 21:00:43 | BZFlag | nikos: hey, it's lower case. ;-) |
| 21:00:45 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: The thing works though..... my brother swears by it... |
| 21:00:59 | nikos | BZFlag: go for it |
| 21:01:06 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: Well it's a simple concept for sure |
| 21:01:52 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: Yep, gravity.... I'm sure he tried to patent it, but isn't there prior art for making grease run downhill? |
| 21:02:10 | Aelhaz | doesn't McD's use a clamshell grilling system? 'cept they wanna keep all that grease. |
| 21:02:23 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: prior art never stopped anyone before |
| 21:02:44 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: Sadly true..... |
| 21:03:15 | Aelhaz | One of these days I'll get back to working on my patent application for oxidation . . . . |
| 21:04:50 | andersee | Can't get it. I patented water, and included in the patent "a mechanism for binding Oxygen with other elements having one valence electron" |
| 21:06:35 | Aelhaz | andersee: I have some friends who studied the mathematical field of topology, I've been considering having one of them cook me up an extremely obscure scientific description of a wheel |
| 21:06:57 | Aelhaz | I'd only charge a few cents per for the license . . . |
| 21:07:39 | ctr | bbiab |
| 21:07:42 | ctr | is away: food |
| 21:08:22 | Aelhaz | but I heard some ozzie already got a patent on the wheel |
| 21:18:05 | mallum | notices filte release on ipaq list... |
| 21:34:02 | CosmicPenguin | welcome newbie.... |
| 21:34:34 | newbie | hello CosmicPenguin good morning |
| 21:35:26 | CosmicPenguin | or evening, depending on your preference and/or geography.... |
| 21:36:04 | newbie | yes *lol* iam here in germany with SuSe Linux 7.2 Professional on my system |
| 21:41:08 | CosmicPenguin | newbie: Isn't it still a little early in the morning over there? |
| 21:41:20 | ctr | it's almost midnight here |
| 21:41:24 | ctr | so should be almost 2 there |
| 21:41:40 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Oops..... there are 24 hours in the day, not 20.... :) |
| 21:41:49 | ctr | hehe |
| 21:41:52 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Stupid math on my part.... |
| 21:42:33 | newbie | well, its so between 0 and 1 clock am here in germany |
| 21:42:47 | ctr | hmm |
| 21:42:49 | ctr | :) |
| 21:44:42 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: If you think about it, all our machines run on your timezone anyway, right? :) |
| 21:44:52 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: The rest is just math.... |
| 21:45:00 | ctr | yesh |
| 21:48:11 | newbie | i restart my KVirc |
| 21:54:31 | mallum | ok bedtime for me - night all |
| 22:08:54 | BZFlag | wonders if Morn has seen Quark lately |
| 22:18:08 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: You can't mount JFFS2 images as loopback, right? |
| 22:18:35 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: with the mtdram driver you can |
| 22:18:46 | Russ|werk | but not with -o loop |
| 22:21:20 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: Thats what I thought, but I had to prove my boss wrong... :) |
| 22:30:21 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: How much X code does E17 have? |
| 22:30:33 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Is it portable to Nano-X, or is it just too daunting? |
| 22:30:39 | ctr | uhm |
| 22:30:45 | ctr | well |
| 22:30:58 | ctr | it'd need ecore, evas, Imlib2 porting |
| 22:31:08 | CosmicPenguin | evas? |
| 22:31:13 | ctr | and ebits (but thats sits on evas) |
| 22:31:15 | ctr | yeah |
| 22:31:18 | CosmicPenguin | Whats that? |
| 22:31:24 | ctr | rasters uber cool canvas lib |
| 22:31:32 | ctr | it has several rendering backends |
| 22:31:52 | ctr | from pure X11, Imlib2, Xrender, and 2D OpenGL |
| 22:32:00 | ctr | it's and accelerated drawing canvas |
| 22:32:00 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh... |
| 22:32:17 | ctr | if you happen to have a opengl card it renders like shit off a teflon shovel |
| 22:32:23 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: So the answer is probably *no* huh? |
| 22:32:35 | ctr | well |
| 22:32:52 | ctr | once i get a phone i shall port evas and Imlib2 to microwindws |
| 22:32:59 | ctr | and we can go from there |
| 22:33:47 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Cool. We have been building image handlers into Microwindows, but thats a game you can't win, so it will be nice to have an external library to help |
| 22:33:55 | ctr | i am itching to get one of these phones |
| 22:34:08 | ctr | well imlib2 and evas will provide high performance rendering |
| 22:34:20 | ctr | i shall also sit down and work out how to make it faster |
| 22:34:47 | ctr | it'll also allow people using microwindows the ability to play with all sorts of images and image font ends |
| 22:35:27 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Way too cool..... That will be well recieved... |
| 22:36:53 | ctr | heh |
| 22:37:04 | ctr | well i need to get the phone and network card etc first :) |
| 22:37:35 | ctr | next wednesday i will have paid my credit card off and will make the order |
| 22:37:45 | ctr | should have the phone by a week wednesday at the latest |
| 22:37:50 | ctr | then i shall start hack0ring |
| 22:38:00 | ctr | and give as much time as I can |
| 22:52:09 | CosmicPenguin | ctr: Good deal. Tonight, I'm going to make a whiteboard program, and maybe start making a uclibc version of nscd for the browser..... |
| 22:52:44 | ctr | nscd? |
| 22:55:13 | CosmicPenguin | Its a DNS deamon that is used by glibc 2.1.5..... Until andersee gets C++ working with uclibc, I have to compile ViewML statically, and it needs nscd for name resolution.... |
| 22:55:41 | CosmicPenguin | So I can only browse by IP address, which gets old fast.... |
| 23:02:44 | ctr | i see |
| 23:03:16 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, have a good night. I'm headed to the gym, and then headed for home.... |