| 01:00:46 | Aelhaz | nothing quite like partially disassembling your notebook and having it actually survive to make a man feel alive . . . |
| 01:01:25 | Morn | I got linux running on my laptop tody |
| 01:02:38 | Aelhaz | Neat |
| 01:03:18 | Morn | I had a heck of a time though, since the only CD I have is USB, I ended up copying the install files to the hard drive and installing from there |
| 01:03:21 | Aelhaz | my laptop is showing some age at this point, but in this case it's the size that counts. Closed, the entire notebook is a hair over 3/4 of 1 inch thick |
| 01:03:57 | Aelhaz | I was doing some exploratory surgery to see if i can make a 9mm harddrive fit in it |
| 01:04:02 | Aelhaz | the stock harddrive is 8mm |
| 01:04:09 | Morn | Ah. |
| 01:04:27 | Aelhaz | and 4gb |
| 01:04:28 | Morn | I would like to upgrade my hard drive too... but not sure if it will cost too much |
| 01:04:42 | Morn | my hard drive is 6gig |
| 01:04:43 | Aelhaz | and linux says it has no cache, which is odd, 'cause it has 512k according to the spec sheet |
| 01:05:01 | Aelhaz | 20gb notebook harddrives are about $120 online these days |
| 01:05:14 | Morn | really, I thought they were more expensive |
| 01:05:27 | Morn | but how hard is it to get what is already on the drive onto the new one? |
| 01:06:02 | Aelhaz | Depends what OS you're trying to move |
| 01:06:14 | Morn | I have both windows and linux on the drive |
| 01:06:15 | Aelhaz | with linux it's very easy if you can install both harddrives in a desktop machine |
| 01:06:25 | Aelhaz | with windows it's only a little trickier |
| 01:06:29 | Morn | I don't have a desktop right now to do that with. |
| 01:07:03 | Aelhaz | well, that's problematic, for sure |
| 01:07:20 | Morn | I thought they also made some sort of pcmcia card to hook up a hard drive... that would let you back it up first (use something like partition magic to copy the drives) |
| 01:07:29 | Aelhaz | one of these days i need to gut the electronics out of this notebook and try and gently reshape the case. it appears to be slightly bent. (magnesium alloy) |
| 01:07:42 | Aelhaz | yeah, you can get pcmcia harddrive adapters |
| 01:08:02 | Aelhaz | they're not as cheap as they should be |
| 01:09:32 | Morn | I found a compact flash reader for like $28, it's USB |
| 01:11:01 | Aelhaz | oh, if you have a spare pcmcia slot on your computer, just get a pcmcia adapter |
| 01:11:11 | Aelhaz | it shows up as a pcmcia harddrive |
| 01:11:22 | Morn | I bought a serial cable and a null modem today to install TuxScreen and ended up getting the wrong cable, I need a gender changer for it. |
| 01:11:39 | Morn | I have a pcmcia slot, I just need to find the adapter |
| 01:11:42 | Aelhaz | I hate when that happens |
| 01:12:31 | Morn | I'm still a little unsure about how I'm going to put the 12v on the motherboard... but I'll get it |
| 01:22:37 | Aelhaz | eight batteries in a big battery holder from radio shack works. in the utah valley area, where I am, there's also a lot of second hand stores that usually have a few 12v dc adapters, tho I'd look for one with a very low rating |
| 01:25:02 | Aelhaz | eight AA batteries is what we use at lineo |
| 02:57:38 | BZFlag | Morn: I'd suggest taping over the other contacts to reduce the possibility of frying something. just leave the two in the picture uncovered. |
| 02:58:27 | Morn | I was thinking I would use tape... |
| 02:58:33 | BZFlag | and get the InfernoRemote working so you can type everything except the ESC ctrl-a on the remote machine. |
| 02:59:11 | BZFlag | 2 phones headed to korea soon. waiting for payment. |
| 03:00:22 | boodle | Greetings, anyone here? (trying to put on blob) |
| 03:00:31 | BZFlag | waits for a new yopy kernel to build |
| 03:00:44 | boodle | waves at BZFlag |
| 03:00:51 | BZFlag | wave back at boodle |
| 03:00:56 | BZFlag | er waves... |
| 03:01:18 | BZFlag | boodle: got yer flash unlocked? |
| 03:01:25 | boodle | BZFlag: hehe.. should I first install emu.tgz on inferno/tux to get blob on? |
| 03:01:32 | boodle | BZFlag: not yet but have 12v batt. next to me :) |
| 03:02:00 | Morn | Someone suggested that a 9v battery might be enough to do it, since I don't really have a way to get the 12v |
| 03:02:01 | boodle | BZFlag: first want to get into inferno... esc then ctrl-a during fading Philips screen, correct? |
| 03:03:10 | Morn | yawns. |
| 03:07:17 | BZFlag | boodle: when you have InfernoRemote, then ESC ctrl-a for local just ESC ctrl-p |
| 03:08:20 | BZFlag | boodle: to get InfernoRemote up you need to install Inferno on the other machine first. once you get to a shell then type the command on InfernoRemote wiki page. |
| 03:08:58 | boodle | BZFlag: oops ok so install inferno on x86 box first then use InfernoRemote info.. heh ok |
| 03:09:49 | boodle | BZFlag: does Inferno need it's own partition or can it exist on top of a normal linux installation? |
| 04:17:11 | Morn | my sodimm is on it's way! |
| 04:21:05 | BZFlag | sweet. you know they don't yet work in Linux right? The 32M should work after we do some hacking, the 64M might never work. |
| 04:21:41 | Morn | I thought the 32m worked, oh well I'll have it for when it does. |
| 04:22:54 | Morn | really should think about sleeping more... people are starting to worry. |
| 04:46:46 | AlHaz | ibot, sleep? |
| 04:46:52 | AlHaz | or, does it need a colon . . |
| 04:46:54 | | zZZZzzzZZZ |
| 04:46:54 | AlHaz | ibot1: sleep? |
| 04:47:14 | | okay, AlHaz. |
| 04:47:14 | AlHaz | ibot1: sleep is also just a cheap substitute for caffeine |
| 04:47:41 | AlHaz | Morn: the 32m works in inferno, not sure yet why the blob doesn't see it as 32 megs |
| 04:47:54 | Morn | ah |
| 14:50:10 | nikos | nelson_: You around? |
| 15:01:51 | nikos | Hi Morn |
| 15:27:22 | mallum | my phone runs python :) |
| 15:27:26 | mallum | http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/snap.6.jpg |
| 15:27:42 | mallum | the pict is a bit crap |
| 15:28:33 | mallum | DF is at the top of the shot as well, reporting I still have 1.1M available - 62% usage |
| 15:30:27 | nikos | mallum: Good job |
| 15:31:01 | mallum | nikos: thanks , am chuffed was a lot of pain getting it to run |
| 15:31:28 | mallum | nikos: its ok putting that image on the handhelds server right ? |
| 15:32:02 | nikos | mallum: I suppose so, I would think it would make more sense for it to be on the tuxscreen wiki. |
| 15:32:38 | mallum | nikos: yes I'll move it there ... I'll have to get somebody with access to upload it |
| 15:32:55 | nikos | mallum: Cool |
| 16:16:08 | mallum | Hi BZFlag |
| 16:16:27 | mallum | BZFlag: have a look at http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Users/MatthewAllum |
| 16:44:25 | BZFlag | cool ;-) |
| 16:44:46 | mallum | Used my microdrive to tranfer the files in the end |
| 16:45:50 | mallum | The uClibc python binary weighs in at about 500k stripped |
| 16:46:20 | mallum | and I added about 500k of python libs too, have to work out what ones are most needed - I just copied what the ipaq uses for now |
| 17:30:02 | blzbubba | mallum I got nfs to work; did you have any luck? |
| 17:30:43 | mallum | blzbubba: nope not yet - tried with a differnet machine too |
| 17:31:05 | | que tal, mallum |
| 17:31:05 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: hi |
| 17:31:15 | blzbubba | what was the symptom? |
| 17:31:23 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: How ya doing? |
| 17:31:37 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: good - see http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Users/MatthewAllum |
| 17:31:38 | blzbubba | you'll probably want to use mount -o nolock ... |
| 17:31:52 | mallum | blzbubba: yeop was using that, mount just hung there |
| 17:32:10 | blzbubba | did you specify the server by ip or name |
| 17:32:18 | mallum | both |
| 17:32:24 | blzbubba | and did you see any messges on the server's log? |
| 17:32:31 | mallum | nope |
| 17:32:46 | mallum | did you use ip ? |
| 17:32:50 | blzbubba | yes |
| 17:33:24 | mallum | do anything more than an ifconfig and a route for your network setup ? |
| 17:33:24 | blzbubba | weird. I was using the images from 0.3 |
| 17:33:32 | blzbubba | nope, just ifconfig & route |
| 17:33:39 | mallum | and then mount |
| 17:33:45 | blzbubba | yes |
| 17:34:06 | mallum | Im using nfs-user-server on a debian woody box |
| 17:34:14 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I saw it.... good job! |
| 17:34:19 | blzbubba | i was going to a rh 7.1 server |
| 17:34:32 | blzbubba | not sure what kind of nfs it uses |
| 17:35:52 | mallum | may I ask what your line was /etc/exports ? |
| 17:36:31 | mallum | Alos I added a resolv.conf but ping wont let me ping external hosts, unless I specify them by ip which is wierd |
| 17:36:53 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I had the same thing, but I fixed by adding a route by hand |
| 17:37:15 | CosmicPenguin | 'route --net default netmask 0.0.0.0 gw my.gw.name.here' |
| 17:38:01 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Scrath that, I just reread what you said, and you already have that part working. SOrry.... |
| 17:38:06 | CosmicPenguin | s/scrath/scratch |
| 17:38:33 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yes, the route table looks the same as my other box's |
| 17:38:34 | CosmicPenguin | <--- Is tired and really doesn't want to be at work right now.... |
| 17:38:49 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: Its saturday ! |
| 17:39:12 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Unfortunately, its the Saturday before LinuxWorld...... :) |
| 17:39:28 | mallum | aha |
| 17:39:35 | mallum | wheres LinuxWorld at ? |
| 17:39:43 | CosmicPenguin | San Francisco |
| 17:39:59 | mallum | nice |
| 17:40:12 | CosmicPenguin | Too bad I don't get to go though.... :( |
| 17:43:50 | CosmicPenguin | I just get to fix bugs... :) |
| 17:44:12 | mallum | doh |
| 17:51:44 | bmidgley | CosmicPenguin: what's the url for your company? |
| 17:53:45 | bmidgley | i found it |
| 17:54:40 | CosmicPenguin | http://embedded.censoft.com |
| 18:01:39 | mallum | is away: dinner |
| 18:32:58 | CosmicPenguin | Did you guys see the new ATOMIK keyboard layout on slashdot: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/atomik?open&t=gr23,p=ATOMIKE |
| 19:11:15 | Alehaz | anybody played with Familiar at all? |
| 19:11:43 | Alehaz | I've got it on a cf card, just starting to hack |
| 19:24:36 | mallum | Alehaz: I got it on my ipaq |
| 19:26:09 | Alehaz | mallum: ever tried it on the tux? |
| 19:26:57 | mallum | Aelhaz: no, not on the tux |
| 19:27:10 | mallum | Aelhaz: Is the ts working with it ? |
| 19:27:17 | Alehaz | I have no idea |
| 19:27:55 | mallum | does X fire up though with it ? |
| 19:28:20 | mallum | oh yeah Aelhaz: I got python going -> http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Users/MatthewAllum |
| 19:28:27 | mallum | I gott go |
| 19:28:37 | Alehaz | heard about that |
| 19:48:51 | Alehaz | hmm, familiar kindasorta runs . . . |
| 19:50:04 | Alehaz | if the orientation were correct, it'd be neat |
| 21:17:14 | | Are we on STRIKE yet? |
| 21:17:14 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: yow |
| 22:11:16 | | Russ: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 22:11:16 | Russ | ibot: weather kphx |
| 22:13:34 | Russ | 110F Feels Like: 102F |
| 22:13:49 | Russ | what a relief, it only feels like 102 |
