| 00:10:25 | sammy_Z | BZflag : how much time I need to wait until get it ,before I order one tuxscreen ? |
| 00:10:36 | sammy_Z | sorry |
| 00:10:43 | sammy_Z | BZFlag :? |
| 00:13:27 | BZFlag | not long. I normally ship the next day. depends on what kind of shipping you want to pay for, how fast it gets to you. |
| 00:14:38 | sammy_Z | have U ever seed to taiwan ? |
| 00:14:41 | sammy_Z | and how much money I need to pay ? |
| 00:15:31 | BZFlag | http://ircalc.usps.gov/weight.asp?Contents=1 |
| 00:16:57 | BZFlag | http://ircalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Taiwan&Pounds=7&Ounces=13&cmdSubmit=Continue&Contents=1 |
| 00:17:04 | sammy_Z | How much does it weigh? |
| 00:17:40 | BZFlag | 7' 13" |
| 00:17:49 | BZFlag | http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view/Users/TimRiker |
| 00:20:54 | sammy_Z | a dongle need's $20 and the cable need's $15 and then = $35 |
| 00:24:17 | sammy_Z | can I make dongle by myself ? |
| 00:35:09 | BZFlag | don't have either at present. |
| 00:35:26 | BZFlag | you do not need them to install linux though. |
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| 01:01:41 | BZFlag | DEY7DE76ED7SED6E6ESAAF |
| 01:35:09 | nelson | Uh-oh, bzflag is letting the toddler IRC again. |
| 01:42:53 | BZFlag | heh, how'd you guess? |
| 02:15:37 | Aelhaz | cats usually hit enter sooner :) |
| 02:15:53 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: Thanks for recommending bidwatcher -- http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1264858976 |
| 02:54:41 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: heh, nice isn't it? ;-) No sense paying more that you have to. ;-) |
| 03:01:46 | Aelhaz | buz: Yup! |
| 03:01:52 | Aelhaz | er, bz: |
| 03:11:26 | nelson | Aelhaz: what is bidwatcher? |
| 03:11:37 | BZFlag | http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&pb=&ht=1&query=flash+ethernet&SortProperty=MetaEndSort |
| 03:11:56 | BZFlag | http://freshmeat.net/projects/bidwatcher/ |
| 03:12:29 | BZFlag | or http://bidwatcher.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:13:38 | nelson | Geez, I wonder if the kingston works. It comes with a pcmcia adapter. And it's cheep. |
| 03:14:13 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: seem to be lots of kingston cio10t available http://www.kingston.com/compactio/CIO10T.asp |
| 03:18:32 | BZFlag | http://www.handhelds.org/pipermail/linux/2000-October/000485.html |
| 03:18:42 | BZFlag | nelson: that one was for you. |
| 03:43:45 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: Yeah, already got one on the way, buy-it-now was at $14 on one of them |
| 03:44:23 | Aelhaz | I'll keep the two i like best that work and sell the rest |
| 03:44:55 | Aelhaz | it's good to know that, if nothing else works, I've at least aquired my own LP-E |
| 03:47:10 | nelson | BZFlag: yeah, but does the Kingston work in a 3.3v-only slot? Seems like it ought to. |
| 03:49:01 | Aelhaz | nelson: we'll know as soon as mine shows up, hopefully some time next week |
| 03:52:25 | BZFlag | heh, yep $13.95 I just got one too. |
| 03:52:54 | BZFlag | nelson: AFAIK CF cards are all 3.3v |
| 03:52:55 | Aelhaz | heh |
| 03:53:26 | Aelhaz | Yeah, the 64 meg CF card i got said it was advertised as being dual voltage. I plugged it into my notebook, and my notebook says it's 3.3v . . . |
| 03:54:21 | Aelhaz | BZFlag: Unfortuantely, we'd have to spend about $150 to find out for sure. the PCMCIA spec isn't published online, you have to buy a dead tree hardback |
| 03:58:23 | BZFlag | ahh.. Dual Voltage Support? |
| 03:58:23 | BZFlag | CompactFlash cards support both 3.3V and 5V operation and can be interchanged between 3.3V and 5V systems. This means that any CF card can operate at |
| 03:58:24 | BZFlag | either voltage. Other small form factor flash cards may be available to operate at 3.3V or 5V, but any single card can operate at only one of the voltages |
| 03:58:34 | BZFlag | http://www.compactflash.org/faqs/faq.htm#dvs |
| 03:58:55 | Aelhaz | interesting |
| 03:59:29 | BZFlag | and http://www.compactflash.org/specdl1.htm |
| 04:00:43 | Aelhaz | the last bios update for my notebook was to resolve an issue where if the notebook was booted up completely cold, and there was a pcmcia card in it that only supports 3.3v, it would apply 5v anyway and fry the card. Good to know that's not very likely to happen |
| 04:01:53 | nelson | Okay, so we have a known good Ethernet card. What about an X server? |
| 04:02:06 | Aelhaz | oh yeah, I downloaded the CF spec once. iirc what i got referenced the dead tree pcmcia spec in the one spot i really wanted hard data in |
| 04:02:08 | nelson | Also, how do we talk to the DSP |
| 04:02:24 | BZFlag | I've been running the ipaq X server over nfs. works great. ts and keyboard work with it. |
| 04:03:16 | BZFlag | nelson: DSP reasearch in progress. see the schematics on the wiki |
| 04:03:27 | Aelhaz | The issue was that a customer didn't believe me that there would be almost no reason to ever bother trying to automagically partition a cf card, and that in case they wanted to try, they had to avoid smashing the CIS tuple or alternately having the card refuse to let them smash the CIS tuple and having the fdisk fail |
| 04:03:43 | Aelhaz | the CF spec regarding CIS references the dead tree pcmcia spec |
| 04:04:23 | Aelhaz | just says "Just like pcmcia, buy the book" |
| 04:04:24 | Aelhaz | basically |
| 04:04:31 | BZFlag | ah |
| 04:04:57 | Aelhaz | The deal is, some CF readers are too braindead to detect the geometry of the card |
| 04:05:29 | Aelhaz | so the first few blocks of a CF card identifies the make / model and geometry |
| 04:05:39 | Aelhaz | smartmedia cards are the same way |
| 04:06:03 | Aelhaz | this is why all CF cards are fdisk'd and formatted at the factory |
| 04:06:41 | Aelhaz | I smashed the CIS tuple on a 32 meg smartmedia card once, and had a hell of a time rebuilding it |
| 04:06:50 | Aelhaz | my camera rejected it outright, as did several other cameras |
| 04:06:55 | Aelhaz | tho it worked fine in the pcmcia reader |
| 04:07:06 | Aelhaz | eventually found a toshiba camera that hapily rebuilt it |
| 04:08:58 | Aelhaz | on my sandisk 16 meg cf cards, if you try to write over the tuple the write fails. |
| 04:10:11 | Aelhaz | so i finally tested their automagic fdisk program and documented that it failed |
| 04:10:17 | Aelhaz | so they fixed it so it avoids the tuple |
| 04:10:26 | Aelhaz | but man, you have to fight some customers uphill . . . |
| 04:14:11 | BZFlag | heh. must sleep. I updated http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view.php?topic=PCMCIA&web=Main |
| 04:14:25 | Aelhaz | cool |
| 04:14:28 | BZFlag | oh, and who stuck all the white space in there? ;-( I removed it. ;-) |
| 04:14:57 | BZFlag | I am using a Mr.Flash brand 64 meg CF card <- who is I? wiki write in the 3rd person. |
| 04:15:24 | Aelhaz | Sorry :) |
| 04:16:24 | BZFlag | nite |
| 04:16:29 | nelson | Cool, Weird. |
| 04:16:48 | nelson | I can't get Xipaq to run. |
| 04:17:13 | nelson | It keeps saying "./Xipaq: No such file or directory", except of course that file *is* there. |
| 04:19:40 | nelson | Oh well, I gotta get to bed too. |
| 06:01:11 | finalfantasydog | night |
| 22:45:24 | nelson | Anybody gotten Xipaq to work on their tux? |
| 22:47:40 | BZFlag | besides me you mean? |