| 00:18:52 | Sammy | hi !! |
| 06:04:21 | BZFlag | cworth: hacked your shannon lately? |
| 06:04:32 | cworth | BZFlag: hello! /me has been vacationing for a while... |
| 06:04:42 | BZFlag | what did you do with the 64M sodimm? |
| 06:04:58 | BZFlag | Russ has fb and keyboard working now. |
| 06:05:03 | cworth | BZFlag: just checking the status and it appears you've been busy! I'll have to get back into this now! |
| 06:05:13 | BZFlag | I just logged into my phone from the console. ;-) |
| 06:05:49 | cworth | BZFlag: sweet! I've got the 64MB SODIMM on my desk in VA. I'm in CA right now. I'll fly back tomorrow and hopefully I can install linux on Friday. |
| 06:06:01 | BZFlag | # uname -a |
| 06:06:01 | BZFlag | Linux tuxscreen 2.4.6-rmk2-np1-tux3 #92 Thu Aug 2 02:25:44 MST 2001 armv4l unknown |
| 06:06:01 | BZFlag | # df |
| 06:06:02 | BZFlag | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 06:06:02 | BZFlag | /dev/root 3072 1072 2000 35% / |
| 06:06:50 | cworth | BZFlag: very, very cool! |
| 06:07:12 | BZFlag | cworth: we have not looked into the various possible mem configurations yet, but it would help to know the chips on the sodimm. tell Russ |
| 06:07:28 | cworth | BZFlag: nod, will do. |
| 06:07:39 | cworth | BZFlag: what's next? PCMCIA? |
| 06:07:52 | BZFlag | df - that's with uclibc, busybox, tinylogin, rz/sz, and regular init. |
| 06:07:58 | BZFlag | pcmcia is next, yes. |
| 06:08:30 | BZFlag | Erik Andersen is looking into card{mgr&ctl} on uclibc |
| 06:09:15 | cworth | BZFlag: slick. maybe I'll make some ipkgs specifically for the tuxscreen. ;-) |
| 06:09:19 | BZFlag | and the above df numbers are estimates, as root is jffs2 so I expect there is more like 3M free. |
| 06:10:14 | BZFlag | root jffs2 is 427k |
| 06:11:04 | BZFlag | we believe that the touch screen driver works, but have not run any apps to test it yet. |
| 06:11:20 | BZFlag | thinks Sammy should order a TuxScreen. ;-) |
| 06:11:40 | cworth | BZFlag: oooh... maybe I'll start with a console-based version of xstroke then. it'll need a new name I gues... |
| 06:11:44 | Sammy | om? |
| 06:13:13 | BZFlag | that would be cool. fbstroke ;-) |
| 06:13:45 | BZFlag | Sammy: http://TuxScreen.net/ $99 usd + shipping and taxes (if any) |
| 06:13:59 | cworth | BZFlag: yup. Now I just need some nice donations of free time. :) |
| 06:14:07 | BZFlag | heh, me too. |
| 06:14:16 | cworth | BZFlag: well, time to sleep. I've got a flight in a few hours. |
| 06:14:36 | cworth | g'night all |
| 06:18:42 | Sammy | night !! but BZFlag : I just (my boss) just spend some $ to buy LART+KSB ... I so |
| 06:20:09 | Sammy | so I don't think he will do this thing again ....!! |
| 06:21:37 | BZFlag | Sammy: fine. Note that TuxScreen has a 640x480 color touch screen and keyboard. It's also cheaper than the LART. The down side is that it is not nearly as well documented so adding components is not nearly as easy. |
| 06:22:53 | Sammy | when someday if I got strong enough ...!! I am interesting in this , and will buy it bu my self ...!! |
| 06:25:20 | Sammy | like when I am interesting in Embedded system , so I buy a iPAQ to change the OS in Linux platform !! |
| 06:26:10 | BZFlag | why do you always use 2 !'s ? |
| 06:26:29 | BZFlag | just curious. |
| 06:27:43 | Sammy | U mean " !! " ? |
| 06:27:48 | BZFlag | yeah. |
| 06:28:07 | dec | Two's better than one. |
| 06:28:17 | BZFlag | dec: really??? |
| 06:28:18 | Sammy | oh ... it just habit |
| 06:28:19 | dec | Annoying, though. |
| 06:28:41 | Sammy | but it can change |
| 06:28:57 | dec | you should. |
| 06:29:04 | BZFlag | agrees |
| 06:29:23 | dec | hmm, let's see.. |
| 06:29:24 | Sammy | OK |
| 06:30:25 | dec | tuxscreen has sa-1100, ipaq has sa-1110, this gsm has sa-1110.. I'm surrounded by StrongARM gadgets. |
| 06:31:00 | Russ | BZFlag: you want pcmcia-cs on the image? |
| 06:31:09 | Sammy | hi Russ |
| 06:31:27 | Russ | hey Sammy |
| 06:32:26 | BZFlag | Russ: Yeah, at least cardmgr and cardctl |
| 06:32:37 | Russ | where should I grab it from? |
| 06:33:01 | Sammy | if I find Tuxscreen first , I won't but iPAQ ...... |
| 06:33:02 | BZFlag | I think it's going to take some hacking to get it to build with uclibc. |
| 06:33:11 | Russ | I don't think so |
| 06:33:19 | Russ | uclibc is very good |
| 06:33:26 | BZFlag | Russ: I'd just start with current release. |
| 06:33:32 | Russ | older apps have some problems (the original ash, sysvinit) |
| 06:33:39 | BZFlag | Russ: it's the fork() that I'm concerned with. |
| 06:33:55 | Russ | hey, cool ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/people/nico/diff-2.4.7-rmk2-np1.gz |
| 06:34:05 | Russ | BZFlag: oh no, thats MMUless uclibc |
| 06:34:09 | BZFlag | note that busybox cvs now has modprobe (assuming erik checked it in... ;-) |
| 06:34:31 | Russ | uclibc uses the MMU just fine, if you have one |
| 06:34:45 | BZFlag | Russ: hmmm when mmu there is a full fork() there? |
| 06:34:58 | BZFlag | gets redundant. |
| 06:35:37 | Russ | 3.1.28 then? |
| 06:35:41 | Russ | yah, fork() is fine |
| 06:35:50 | BZFlag | sure.. hey, what happened to the jffs2 blob patches? |
| 06:35:53 | Russ | you just can't use it if you don't have an MMU |
| 06:36:03 | BZFlag | that's ok with me. ;-) |
| 06:36:07 | Russ | they are waiting for the next blob hackfest |
| 06:36:21 | Russ | when paramater blocks, boot configurations, etc are added |
| 06:36:29 | BZFlag | the release is out, so that starts now. no? ;-) |
| 06:37:21 | Russ | not tonight |
| 06:37:28 | BZFlag | blob version 2.0.3 <- boot msg. ;-) |
| 06:37:43 | Russ | so you want cardmgr and cardctl |
| 06:37:49 | BZFlag | funny I don't feel very LARTed |
| 06:38:08 | BZFlag | well why don't you build it and see what fits. |
| 06:38:27 | BZFlag | also what happened with audio? Is there a missing /dev/ entry? |
| 06:38:44 | Russ | yes |
| 06:39:01 | Russ | you can't hear it though, because the audio path isn't set |
| 06:39:26 | Russ | I need to tell the DSP to change the audio path (none, phone line, handset, spk) |
| 06:39:48 | BZFlag | it would be nice to move to modules for pcmcia, etc and run the busybox depmod perl script first. then the rootfs would have busybox modutils including modprobe which pcmcia should be happy with. |
| 06:40:06 | Russ | look in /proc/driver/ucb1200 |
| 06:40:13 | BZFlag | Erik's phone still works under Linux. mine does not. |
| 06:40:21 | Russ | ? |
| 06:40:26 | Russ | what happened? |
| 06:41:58 | BZFlag | I just don't get anything out of it. seems that it comes up in a random state perhaps? |
| 06:42:07 | BZFlag | it worked under inferno. |
| 06:42:33 | Russ | what did? |
| 06:42:44 | BZFlag | one sec... |
| 06:43:46 | Russ | do you need 'probe'? (for pcmcia) |
| 06:44:44 | BZFlag | hmm... seems to work now. |
| 06:45:01 | BZFlag | pulse dial, no lights, no spkr phone. |
| 06:45:26 | Russ | for inferno? |
| 06:45:44 | BZFlag | I'd like "cardctl ident" to work. don't know if that uses probe or not. |
| 06:46:07 | BZFlag | under linux, the handset will pickup and # keys will pulse dial numbers. |
| 06:46:54 | Russ | k, working on support files now (binaries compiled) |
| 06:48:11 | BZFlag | keyboard support is nice. need to add keycodes for screen+- and the blank key sometime. I think we should call the blank key the pizza key. ;-) |
| 06:48:25 | Russ | Its the coffee key in that release |
| 06:48:30 | Russ | I changed it to left meta |
| 06:48:52 | Russ | I still don't know what to do with the screen+/-, I may end up binding them to contrast in the kernel |
| 06:49:11 | BZFlag | yeah, contrast would be nice. |
| 06:49:11 | Russ | right now they are volumeup/volumedown |
| 06:49:46 | Russ | so cardmgr should be running in the background |
| 06:50:41 | BZFlag | ponders the volume keys on the phone. handset volume when using handset, spkr phone when using spkr, ring tone when not in use. that's what shannon did right? |
| 06:50:52 | Russ | think so |
| 06:51:05 | BZFlag | yes, cardmgr should be running from an init script. |
| 06:51:05 | Russ | userspace will handle that whole keypad as events |
| 06:51:18 | Russ | so phone functions will be out of the kernel |
| 06:51:41 | BZFlag | agreed |
| 06:52:17 | BZFlag | remember that you have an F13 too. ;-) |
| 06:52:40 | Russ | F13 is F13 |
| 06:52:51 | Russ | there are two other puzzling keys |
| 06:53:00 | Russ | call server (which is now pause) |
| 06:53:05 | BZFlag | there are no ins/del keys though. |
| 06:53:20 | Russ | and num lock (which serves no usefull purpose, as there is no incribed keypad) |
| 06:53:26 | Russ | er, inscribed |
| 06:53:45 | Russ | k, I need to make a /etc/pcmcia/config... |
| 06:54:23 | BZFlag | I guess I'd rather have screen+- be ins/del |
| 06:55:42 | Russ | hmm....the /etc/pcmica/* stuff will need a great deal of editing for arm.... |
| 06:56:06 | Russ | include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0x800-0x8ff, port 0xc00-0xcff |
| 06:56:07 | Russ | include memory 0xc0000-0xfffff |
| 06:56:07 | Russ | include memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff, memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff |
| 07:01:37 | BZFlag | the stuff on the ipaq (familiar) seems to have left in all the x86 isms in the configs. |
| 07:02:00 | Russ | I really need a 3V3 card |
| 07:02:02 | BZFlag | ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/dists/familiar/releases/v0.4/install/H3600/task-bootstrap.tar.gz |
| 07:02:32 | BZFlag | you could likely just grab /etc/pcmcia from there. |
| 07:02:49 | BZFlag | no CF cards around? |
| 07:03:40 | Russ | none |
| 07:03:47 | Russ | I have a 5V xircom net card |
| 07:04:24 | BZFlag | does it report 5v when you insert it? on pc or shannon? |
| 07:05:00 | Russ | I don't have any pcmcia slots, except for the shannon ones |
| 07:05:04 | Russ | I looked it up though |
| 07:11:48 | BZFlag | no matter what I put in I get the kernel msg that the card is requesting 5v |
| 07:12:24 | Russ | kick ASS!!!! |
| 07:12:29 | Russ | sneak to jay and bob |
| 07:12:39 | Russ | today! |
| 07:13:17 | BZFlag | huh? |
| 07:13:49 | Russ | I'll show you |
| 07:13:58 | BZFlag | waits |
| 07:17:12 | Russ--- | sorry, parallel port scanner was having a seizure |
| 07:20:42 | Russ | http://russ.dhs.org/jayandbob.jpg |
| 07:21:04 | Russ | barely got the letter as it was forwarded |
| 07:21:08 | Russ | ...and opened |
| 07:29:23 | Russ | where did that card go? |
| 07:31:25 | BZFlag | cool. that's tonight even. which card? |
| 07:31:58 | Russ | 5V card |
| 07:32:12 | Russ | there is a slightly imcomplete image up |
| 07:33:15 | BZFlag | what's the "small sysrq problem" ? sysrq seems to work fine here. |
| 07:33:32 | Russ | it it either on, or off for me |
| 07:33:39 | Russ | you hit sysrq, and its "on" |
| 07:33:47 | Russ | you hit it again, and its "off" |
| 07:35:26 | BZFlag | hmm.. I think I've seen similar issues on normal keyboards. |
| 07:35:35 | BZFlag | doesn't bother me. ;-) |
| 07:36:10 | Russ | arghh..its on the other console...so I can't paste |
| 07:36:30 | Russ | Socket 0: |
| 07:36:31 | Russ | product info: "Linksys", "Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC2T)", "2.0" |
| 07:36:31 | Russ | manfid: 0x0149, 0xc1ab |
| 07:36:31 | Russ | function: 6 (network) |
| 07:37:07 | Russ | Socket 0: |
| 07:37:07 | Russ | 5V 16-bit PC Card |
| 07:37:07 | Russ | function 0: [ready] |
| 07:37:40 | Russ | lemme add modprobe, fix the little bugs, and make another image |
| 07:38:11 | BZFlag | sweet |
| 07:39:16 | BZFlag | if flashing the ramdisk slower now or is that my imagination? |
| 07:39:22 | BZFlag | s/if/is/ |
| 07:39:30 | Russ | thats strange |
| 07:39:41 | Russ | it gets into a state where erasing blocks take a very long time |
| 07:39:54 | Russ | power cycling fixes it |
| 07:39:55 | BZFlag | wow, that was much faster flashing. |
| 07:41:44 | BZFlag | got a ide_cs.o to add to the fs? |
| 07:41:50 | Russ | nopers |
| 07:42:02 | Russ | haven't been building pcmcia modules |
| 07:42:11 | Russ | can if you want me to |
| 07:42:50 | BZFlag | if you would, sure. I just grabbed the kernel patch though. |
| 07:43:24 | Russ | you want them from kernel, or pcmcia-cs |
| 07:46:52 | Russ | oh. thats helpfull |
| 07:47:02 | Russ | no depmod, but a depmod perl script.... |
| 07:48:06 | BZFlag | heh, depmod perl script can be run before you create the rootfs image. |
| 07:48:13 | BZFlag | it's platform independant. |
| 07:48:18 | Russ | okie |
| 07:48:37 | Russ | what other modules do you want? |
| 07:48:38 | BZFlag | kernel/pcmcia - don't care much. |
| 07:49:39 | BZFlag | pcnet_cs, ide_cs, wavelan (won't work till 5v) should do for now. |
| 07:50:08 | BZFlag | 8390.o will need to be there for pcnet_cs |
| 07:50:23 | Russ | will that get built? |
| 07:50:29 | BZFlag | yes |
| 07:50:39 | Russ | and you happen to know how I can make the modules "go somewhere" |
| 07:51:49 | BZFlag | make modules_install for kernel stuff, for pcmcia-cs I don't recall. make install will break all you binaries, so probably best to copy the.. hmmm.. modules? directory over. |
| 07:52:02 | Russ | they will go to a tux dir |
| 07:52:08 | Russ | but I have to do it as root |
| 07:52:21 | BZFlag | or mkdir and chown first. |
| 07:52:30 | Russ | I wish they would go to a modules/ dir |
| 07:52:43 | BZFlag | ok, and many files are u:g 1000:1000 in the fs. ;-) |
| 07:53:12 | Russ | no users yet |
| 07:54:28 | BZFlag | I know, but you built the jffs2 with files owned by you, not root. |
| 07:54:57 | Russ | ok, so here is the modules |
| 07:54:58 | BZFlag | clients/*.o and modules/*.o are the places to look. |
| 07:55:01 | Russ | 8390.o ide-cs.o ide-probe-mod.o registers.o xirc2ps_cs.o |
| 07:55:01 | Russ | gpio.o ide-mod.o pcnet_cs.o wavelan_cs.o |
| 07:55:40 | BZFlag | sounds good. does depmod.pl complain at all? |
| 07:56:42 | Russ | where is the ksyms file? |
| 08:00:17 | Russ | ok, grab what I have |
| 08:02:22 | BZFlag | grabbing |
| 08:03:33 | Russ | booting.... |
| 08:04:46 | Russ | oops... |
| 08:05:05 | Russ | insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.6-rmk2-np1-tux3: No such file or directory |
| 08:05:49 | Russ | er, no thats ok |
| 08:07:58 | Russ | hmm...it wants axnet_cs.o |
| 08:08:38 | Russ | er, its wrong |
| 08:10:59 | BZFlag | what's wrong? |
| 08:11:16 | Russ | it thinks its a fast ethernet card initially |
| 08:11:26 | Russ | some Asix card |
| 08:12:50 | BZFlag | booting... |
| 08:19:46 | BZFlag | hmm. |
| 08:22:01 | Russ | and? |
| 08:23:23 | Russ | oh, duh, it is a linksys |
| 08:23:43 | BZFlag | # ping 192.168.87.1 |
| 08:23:43 | BZFlag | PING 192.168.87.1 (192.168.87.1): 56 data bytes |
| 08:23:43 | BZFlag | eth0: interrupt(s) dropped! |
| 08:23:43 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 192.168.87.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1062.3 ms |
| 08:23:53 | BZFlag | woohoo! |
| 08:23:55 | Russ | well, thats a first step |
| 08:24:04 | Russ | do ifconfig |
| 08:24:10 | Russ | see what the IO and IRQ is |
| 08:26:17 | BZFlag | 47: 0 pcnet_cs |
| 08:26:38 | BZFlag | spam... |
| 08:26:40 | BZFlag | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:1B:00:B1:7C |
| 08:26:41 | BZFlag | inet addr:192.168.87.103 Bcast:192.168.87.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 08:26:41 | BZFlag | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 |
| 08:26:41 | BZFlag | RX packets:60 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 |
| 08:26:41 | BZFlag | TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 |
| 08:26:41 | BZFlag | collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 |
| 08:26:43 | BZFlag | RX bytes:5614 (5.4 kb) TX bytes:5554 (5.4 kb) |
| 08:26:45 | BZFlag | Interrupt:47 Base address:0x300 |
| 08:28:06 | BZFlag | # ping rikers.org |
| 08:28:07 | BZFlag | PING rikers.org (209.140.76.229): 56 data bytes |
| 08:28:07 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 209.140.76.229: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=18.3 ms |
| 08:28:07 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 209.140.76.229: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=10.1 ms |
| 08:28:16 | BZFlag | heh, dns even. ;-) |
| 08:29:00 | Russ | hey, its working normally |
| 08:29:19 | BZFlag | wget http://rikers.org/ worked ;-) |
| 08:29:22 | Russ | what was with that first set of pings? |
| 08:29:44 | BZFlag | once in a while I get the laggy or lost pings. |
| 08:29:47 | Russ | what card do you have? |
| 08:30:00 | BZFlag | "Socket" CF |
| 08:30:17 | BZFlag | Socket 0: |
| 08:30:17 | BZFlag | product info: "CF+ LPE", "Socket Communications Inc", "Revision E", "08/04/99" |
| 08:30:17 | BZFlag | manfid: 0x0104, 0x0075 |
| 08:30:17 | BZFlag | function: 6 (network) |
| 08:30:20 | Russ | oh, so its not a normal pcmcia card, I would need one of thos CF things |
| 08:30:57 | BZFlag | yep. I have it in a kingston CF sleeve. |
| 08:31:15 | Russ | I need the schematics so I can do a good 5V hack |
| 08:31:22 | Russ | or I need to get a 3V card |
| 08:32:23 | BZFlag | http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=125515 |
| 08:33:08 | Russ | need to do something about /etc/pcmcia, its 240k uncompressed |
| 08:33:15 | BZFlag | though http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=282361 should work and is cheaper. |
| 08:33:26 | Russ | ouch, 119 |
| 08:34:03 | Russ | think I'll get those schematics and do a 5V/reset thing |
| 08:34:28 | Russ | ideal situation would be there is an extra 5V buffer, and an extra 3V buffer |
| 08:34:51 | Russ | hook them up the enable lines to an extra GPIO or somesuck |
| 08:34:54 | Russ | er, such |
| 08:34:58 | Russ | and tie them together |
| 08:36:24 | BZFlag | http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=072851 <- cf adapter |
| 08:37:08 | BZFlag | so $86 or so is the cheapest option that I know works... |
| 08:38:38 | Russ | better just to find an old 16bit 3v pcmcia card |
| 08:39:43 | Russ | sleep |
| 09:52:43 | BZFlag | sweet. I built a 900k kernel with everything, and networking starts when cardmgr starts. ;-) |
| 09:55:55 | BZFlag | Russ: does the bb on there have nfs mount support? If not can you build an image that does? I suppose I need portmap too. hmmm. |
| 10:55:46 | bworth | PCMCIA support? Great!!! - You guys are the best! |
| 12:16:25 | Tangent | Woohoo... PCMCIA support... sadly my Tux are round at my new house now, so I can't test |
| 16:04:57 | dec | ight |
| 17:36:53 | nikos | Wow! |
| 17:37:07 | nikos | What cards have been tested? Any? |
| 17:40:01 | Russ|werk | some network cf card BZFlag has |
| 17:41:54 | nikos | Cool |
| 17:42:26 | nikos | Has anyone tried to do the 5V hack yet? I would really like to be able to use 801.11b. |
| 17:42:36 | nikos | err or maybe 802.11b |
| 17:48:56 | BZFlag | I put up images in http://TuxScreen.net/download/v0.3/ |
| 17:49:20 | BZFlag | Russ: I compiled in all the stuff static into the kernel as we have lots of space. |
| 17:49:40 | BZFlag | so the images up there do not use the modules on the fs. |
| 17:50:00 | BZFlag | I have not tried other cards yet... |
| 17:51:29 | BZFlag | for some reason my 64M CF flash is not working. |
| 17:51:46 | BZFlag | I get: get dev info on socket 0 failed: %m |
| 17:54:05 | BZFlag | ne2k works in either slot, flash in neither. |
| 17:54:46 | BZFlag | slot does not reset, so cardctl eject followed by cardctl insert does not work, but eject then removal and insertion works fine. |
| 17:55:06 | BZFlag | can't mount nfs yet. no portmap? |
| 17:56:31 | BZFlag | # mount dell:/tftpboot /mnt/tmp |
| 17:56:32 | BZFlag | nfs warning: mount version older than kernel |
| 17:56:32 | BZFlag | NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! |
| 17:56:32 | BZFlag | mount: Mounting dell:/tftpboot on /mnt/tmp failed: No such file or directory |
| 17:57:44 | BZFlag | # ping laptop |
| 17:57:44 | BZFlag | eth0: interrupt(s) dropped! |
| 17:57:45 | BZFlag | PING laptop.rikers.org (192.168.87.4): 56 data bytes |
| 17:57:45 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 192.168.87.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=8.9 ms |
| 17:57:50 | BZFlag | oh, and the mount was a type, changed to laptop, but same messages. |
| 18:28:37 | nikos | BZFlag: I assume you tried -o nolock (or that is totally irrelevant...)? |
| 18:30:56 | BZFlag | yep, no difference. |
| 18:31:18 | BZFlag | Russ: do you recall if you turned on nfs mounting in the bb config? |
| 18:31:29 | Russ|werk | I don't know if mount is built with nfs |
| 18:34:30 | Russ|werk | nope |
| 18:34:33 | Russ|werk | lemme fix it |
| 18:34:42 | Russ|werk | You may need to mount with "-o nolock" if you are |
| 18:34:47 | Russ|werk | not running a local portmapper daemon... |
| 18:35:37 | BZFlag | Russ: yeah, tried that. |
| 18:35:53 | BZFlag | must be the non-nfs mount. |
| 18:35:58 | Russ|werk | well, you also need mount with nfs support |
| 18:36:14 | BZFlag | the kernel I put up has nfs/ext2/reiser and all the pcmcia cards built in. |
| 18:36:35 | BZFlag | it's large, but so is the partition. ;-) |
| 18:38:32 | Russ|werk | nfsmount has unresolved symbols with uclibc |
| 18:39:17 | Russ|werk | some pmap and xdr stuff |
| 18:40:03 | BZFlag | bummer. |
| 18:40:12 | BZFlag | time to poke erik I think. ;-) |
| 19:14:39 | bworth | later, all |
| 19:14:49 | nikos | Bye bworth |
| 19:27:48 | Russ|werk | hey erik |
| 19:28:03 | Russ|werk | busybox nfsmount doesn't want to compile with uclibc |
| 19:28:19 | Russ|werk | missing pmap_ and xdr_ symbols |
| 19:29:48 | andersee | Edit uClibc's Config and set INCLUDE_RPC=true, recompile uClibc, then recompile busybox. |
| 19:29:59 | Russ|werk | ah, thanks |
| 19:30:06 | andersee | By default I leave RPC support off since it is kindof big... |
| 19:30:15 | Russ|werk | > 100k ? |
| 19:30:31 | andersee | about 30k from memory (on x86) |
| 19:30:52 | andersee | havn't checked size on ARM but should be in the same range |
| 19:40:39 | andersee | Hmm. Topic says pcmcia now works -- true? |
| 19:40:54 | Russ|werk | yah, more or less |
| 19:41:00 | Russ|werk | ok BZFlag, updated image is up |
| 19:41:11 | Russ|werk | BZFlag was trying to mount nfs |
| 19:54:09 | BZFlag | Russ: I'll try tonight. hacking on other stuff at work. |
| 19:54:41 | BZFlag | andersee: do you have a 3v ne2k card at home? |
| 20:15:01 | andersee | BZFlag: I have a Xircom ne2k-pci/realmodem card... 3v.... |
| 20:30:07 | nikos | Dual-function cards have been problematic with the ipaq. |
| 20:30:51 | andersee | Its the only 3V card I've got unfortunately. So perhaps I'll get lucky. Or maybe not... |
| 20:31:18 | nikos | andersee: I wish you luck. |
| 20:35:38 | BZFlag | I have talked to people that got both parts of a dual working, just not at the same time. |
| 20:37:00 | andersee | well, thats promising. I have no use for a modem... |
| 20:38:50 | nikos | BZFlag: That's what I thought. But I wasn't certain enough to say it. |
| 20:50:18 | BZFlag | Russ: your site down? |
| 20:50:59 | | BZFlag: Provo Municipal Automatic Weather Observing / Reporting System, UT, United States; (KPVU) 40-13N 111-43W; last updated: Aug 09, 2001 05:35 PM EDT; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Heat index: 107 F (42 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.04 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.04 inches (1.2 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 35%; Sky conditions: clear; Temperature: 86 F (30 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Lightning observed; Wind: from the W (280 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT) |
| 20:50:59 | BZFlag | ibot: weather for kpvu |
| 20:53:03 | BZFlag | hmmm... /me wants to test the nfs code, but can't get the image. |
| 21:00:13 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: @home did what I feared |
| 21:01:01 | Russ|werk | lemme move the server temporarily |
| 21:01:35 | Russ|werk | any port you prefer? |
| 21:04:07 | Russ|werk | port 81 it is |
| 21:04:17 | Russ|werk | http://russ.dhs.org:81 |
| 21:04:21 | Russ|werk | (temporary) |
| 21:07:43 | BZFlag | http://russ.dhs.org:81/files/tuxpatches/ <- no go |
| 21:11:25 | BZFlag | scp image.jffs2 russd@tuxscreen.net:/home/groups/t/tu/tuxscreen/htdocs/download/v0.3/rootfs-20010809.img |
| 21:11:40 | BZFlag | please? ;-) |
| 21:13:43 | andersee | I've got it... dunno what your problem is tim. No problem here... http://russ.dhs.org:81/files/tuxpatches/image.jffs2 |
| 21:15:36 | BZFlag | (in Maine accent) Ya can't git there from here. |
| 21:16:02 | BZFlag | nor from SF. |
| 21:16:44 | nikos | BZFlag: Using uunet or worldcom? |
| 21:17:03 | nikos | BZFlag: I just called, they are having trouble in the northeast the status message says. |
| 21:17:03 | BZFlag | hmm... from home it works fine. from lineo or sourceforge, no go. |
| 21:19:48 | BZFlag | sent it to SF |
| 21:21:33 | Russ|werk | so, you don't have it yet? |
| 21:21:36 | Russ|werk | can you pnig me? |
| 21:22:20 | BZFlag | yeah, headed over to ericj's desk to install it. We just tried a TDKLan CD031, no go. he has a Socket like I have at home... |
| 21:22:43 | BZFlag | PING russ.dhs.org (65.5.244.178): 56 data bytes |
| 21:22:43 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 65.5.244.178: icmp_seq=0 ttl=239 time=268.9 ms |
| 21:22:43 | BZFlag | 64 bytes from 65.5.244.178: icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=224.6 ms |
| 21:22:54 | Russ|werk | but no port 81... |
| 21:22:58 | BZFlag | note lossage... |
| 21:23:05 | Russ|werk | o |
| 21:23:11 | Russ|werk | thats bad |
| 21:23:42 | Russ|werk | soo.....schematics? |
| 21:24:20 | BZFlag | looks like the port 81 issue is the facist fw policy here (lineo) |
| 21:25:00 | BZFlag | no worries though, I got the image through home. ssh is a great thing. ;-) |
| 21:26:46 | Russ|werk | I figured it might be a tight firewall |
| 21:26:52 | andersee | BZFlag: ssh to oss.lineo.com... it is outside the firewall... |
| 21:27:35 | BZFlag | no word on schematics... last update was that the previous package "got lost" and that they were resending. |
| 21:28:07 | Russ|werk | strange... |
| 21:28:09 | BZFlag | I'm getting so down on that, I'm now expecting the schematics will be 4 color glossies or similar. |
| 21:28:34 | Russ|werk | what do you mean? |
| 21:35:46 | andersee | This phone doesn't want to talk to my Xircom card. /proc/bus/pccard doesn't even show anything... |
| 21:36:09 | Russ|werk | what does cardctl ident say? nothing? |
| 21:37:03 | andersee | nothing.... |
| 21:37:51 | andersee | pulls the compact flash card out of his camera |
| 21:38:07 | Russ|werk | is the card in all the way? |
| 21:40:38 | andersee | Well, at least with the CF card, 'cardctl ident' now shows "32MB CF PC CARD" |
| 21:41:58 | Russ|werk | maybe the xircom needs a reset |
| 21:52:16 | andersee | Hmm. Maybe the xircom is cardbus only... :( |
| 21:52:42 | Russ|werk | I don't think a cardbus card would fit in that slot |
| 21:53:57 | andersee | Couldn't mount the CF card... the ide driver doesn't recognize it... |
| 21:55:31 | Russ|werk | I don't know if BZFlag compiled fat |
| 21:56:39 | andersee | not a fs issue. The ide-module didn't recognize it as an ide-device... no block device means we never get close to the fs code. |
| 21:56:52 | Russ|werk | oh |
| 21:57:05 | andersee | I had to manually load the ide-modules -- modprobe isn't |
| 21:57:09 | Russ|werk | maybe I didn't compile the right ide pieces |
| 21:57:28 | Russ|werk | anyway, all the pcmcia modules were put together quickly |
| 21:57:38 | andersee | sure. No biggie. |
| 21:57:53 | andersee | The fact that cardctl ident is showing my CF card is nice progress |
| 21:57:57 | Russ|werk | BZFlag has a kernel with lots of stuff compiled into it (900k) |
| 21:58:11 | andersee | needs to try that one soon |
| 21:58:23 | Russ|werk | its in 0.3 |
| 21:58:28 | Russ|werk | I'm new to pcmcia |
| 21:58:36 | Russ|werk | don't have an iPAQ or a laptop |
| 22:00:13 | andersee | I have a laptop (well, it really belongs to my work, but I get to use it) |
| 22:03:33 | Russ|werk | I'll probably end up getting a net card and a pcmcia hard disk, or a pcmcia to ide card |
| 22:12:04 | BZFlag | grabbed ericj's phone and socket card, flashing rootfs now. |
| 22:12:24 | BZFlag | got a dhcp client? ;-) |
| 22:13:40 | BZFlag | andersee: there is an ide error message displayed on insert. |
| 22:14:03 | BZFlag | the one that ends in %m |
| 22:14:27 | BZFlag | booting... |
| 22:21:06 | BZFlag | mount is just hanging... |
| 22:21:36 | BZFlag | # mount |
| 22:21:36 | BZFlag | /dev/root on / type jffs2 (rw) |
| 22:21:36 | BZFlag | ramfs on /tmp type ramfs (rw) |
| 22:21:36 | BZFlag | ramfs on /var type ramfs (rw) |
| 22:21:37 | BZFlag | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 22:21:37 | BZFlag | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) |
| 22:21:39 | BZFlag | dell.55.lineo.com:/tftpboot on /mnt/tmp type nfs (rw,v2,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,hard,udp,nolock,addr=dell.55 |
| 22:21:42 | BZFlag | .lineo.com) |
| 22:21:44 | BZFlag | woohoo! |
| 22:22:33 | andersee | hmm... To make uClibc deal with the %m's, edit uClibc/libc/stdio/printf.c and enable WANT_GNU_ERRNO |
| 22:22:45 | andersee | wohoo indeed! |
| 22:23:03 | andersee | grumbles about how it doesn't work for him... |
| 22:23:42 | andersee | What type of card are you using in the phone? |
| 22:25:51 | BZFlag | sweet! X on the display. ;-) |
| 22:26:42 | andersee | grr... |
| 22:27:03 | andersee | smacks BZFlag for being so smug. :) |
| 22:31:58 | BZFlag | heh |
| 22:37:07 | BZFlag | erikj's box is now showing wmaker with a Linux wallpaper. ;-) looks nice, but no key or ts input. ;-) |
| 22:40:46 | andersee | What card are you using for networking? |
| 22:40:56 | andersee | surely not slip? |
| 22:40:59 | BZFlag | socket |
| 23:08:40 | BZFlag | http://TuxScreen.net/img/rimg0007.jpg |
| 23:08:47 | BZFlag | ;-) |
| 23:11:57 | terrys_zzz | slick picture... |
