| 02:03:12 | Guru | register 0password |
| 02:03:18 | Guru | heh |
| 02:06:04 | | It's great to be back. I missed this place! |
| 02:06:04 | jacques_ | ibot: wb! |
| 06:16:14 | BZFlag | Russ: why sysvinit instead of bb init? |
| 06:16:54 | BZFlag | cranks up some Journey in prep for tomorrow's concert. |
| 06:20:01 | Russ | BZFlag: more flexible |
| 06:20:31 | Russ | if I make sysvinit static against tiny libc, and make a small static flash program |
| 06:20:53 | Russ | I can put a flash image in /tmp, go to run level three, flash the root, and reboot |
| 06:21:18 | Russ | course, copy sysvinit to /tmp before exec'ing it from linuxrc |
| 06:21:29 | Russ | might change later |
| 06:21:53 | BZFlag | hmm... I assumed if I was mounting CF or nfs that I'd put an init there and just exec that one. |
| 06:22:08 | Russ | ? |
| 06:22:13 | BZFlag | so for the internal jffs2 I'd use the smaller bb init. |
| 06:23:09 | BZFlag | ie: have /linuxrc try to find a nfs or cf root and if found pivot_root and exec the init on that fs. |
| 06:23:22 | BZFlag | if not, exec the bb init in jffs2. |
| 06:23:27 | BZFlag | am I making sense? |
| 06:23:28 | Russ | ah, my plans aren't for nfs root or cf |
| 06:23:38 | Russ | this root is supposed to be self sufficient |
| 06:24:00 | Russ | I wouldn't even put in bb init if I was just going to cf or nfs |
| 06:24:04 | BZFlag | same here if nfs/cf aren't there. |
| 06:24:23 | Russ | planning on seeing how much I can cram in |
| 06:24:32 | BZFlag | heh, sounds good. ;-) |
| 06:24:45 | BZFlag | I'm looking at net/pcmcia now. |
| 06:24:51 | Russ | that would be cool to beat out inferno |
| 06:25:01 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 06:25:07 | Russ | BZFlag: the pcmcia gpio's aren't ver descriptive |
| 06:25:19 | Russ | and I'm not sure what to do in sa1100_shannon.c |
| 06:25:46 | BZFlag | where did the lirc module source come from? the lirc package? |
| 06:25:52 | Russ | I'm basing off of yopy |
| 06:25:54 | Russ | lirc cvs |
| 06:26:18 | Russ | (sa1100_yopy.c) |
| 06:26:34 | BZFlag | what's the issue at present? |
| 06:26:50 | Russ | there are a few states to set and optionally have interrupts for |
| 06:26:56 | Russ | detect |
| 06:27:00 | Russ | ready |
| 06:27:04 | Russ | bvd1 |
| 06:27:08 | Russ | bvd2 |
| 06:27:12 | Russ | wrprot |
| 06:27:16 | Russ | vs_3v |
| 06:27:19 | Russ | vs_Xv |
| 06:27:38 | Russ | I don't see where the gpio's we have fit int that |
| 06:27:41 | Russ | er, into |
| 06:27:51 | Russ | I don't even know what bvd means |
| 06:28:29 | BZFlag | hmm |
| 06:29:34 | Russ | from what little I can tell on the keyboard, it looks like its using at scancodes |
| 06:29:44 | Russ | but I'm missing the pulse width |
| 06:29:57 | Russ | only getting the start of pulses, not the end |
| 06:32:08 | BZFlag | hmm... seems to be a CF feature. board voltage detect? ;-) I'm guessing. |
| 06:32:48 | Russ | yopy only supports detect, ready, bvd1, and bvd2 |
| 06:33:11 | BZFlag | Since the keyboard you found on the net was for win32 I would expect at scan codes, yes. |
| 06:34:02 | Russ | from what I can now tell, its a webtv compatible keyboard using CIR (consumer IR, tv remotes, etc) |
| 06:37:10 | Russ | if(state[sock].bvd1==0) |
| 06:37:10 | Russ | *status|=SS_BATDEAD; |
| 06:37:14 | Russ | else if(state[sock].bvd2==0) |
| 06:37:14 | Russ | *status|=SS_BATWARN; |
| 06:37:27 | Russ | I thinx the yopy only has one slot |
| 06:37:53 | BZFlag | BVD 1,2 is referenced in the SA1100 pdf only in the pcmcia block diagram. |
| 06:38:00 | BZFlag | no description that I can find. |
| 06:38:10 | Russ | its batdead, batwarn |
| 06:38:55 | BZFlag | hmm, ok. |
| 06:39:05 | Russ | so we'll ignore bvd1 and bvd2 for now |
| 06:41:11 | BZFlag | yep. confirmed. battery voltage detect |
| 06:41:35 | BZFlag | for cards with onboard batteries. |
| 06:42:49 | Russ | but which gpio is for pcmcia interupts? |
| 06:44:52 | Russ | on the yopy would be "GPIO_CF_IREQ |
| 06:44:53 | Russ | " |
| 06:46:33 | BZFlag | gpio 23? ;-) |
| 06:47:01 | Russ | #define GPIO_CF_READYGPIO_CF_IREQ |
| 06:49:06 | Russ | ok... |
| 06:50:10 | Russ | I don't think I have any pcmcia cards though |
| 06:50:37 | BZFlag | I'll ask around tommorow. I know we've got folks that had to get webtv keyboards working. The boxes I used had decoders built in so they just looked like at keyboards and ps2 mice. but those were x86 boards. |
| 06:50:41 | Russ | you want my first draft of sa1100_shannon.c? |
| 06:50:54 | BZFlag | I doubt all the non-x86 stuff is built that way. |
| 06:51:07 | Russ | right, it works on iPAQ, which has the same hardware, uses the same port |
| 06:51:32 | BZFlag | define works? you can use the keyboard for input? |
| 06:51:35 | Russ | the irda on the texscreen goes through a 74LVC145 |
| 06:51:44 | Russ | on an iPAQ you would be able to |
| 06:51:57 | Russ | all the pulses come through |
| 06:52:13 | BZFlag | and the ts chip is messing with the signal in some way? |
| 06:52:21 | Russ | but on the tuxscreen, the pulse length is always the minimum pulse length |
| 06:52:34 | Russ | BZFlag: I think its something else, software side |
| 06:52:55 | BZFlag | goes to grep some code bits... |
| 06:53:22 | Russ | on what? |
| 07:01:49 | Russ | can you compile lirc latest CVS lirc_sir and see if it works on iPAQ? |
| 07:06:42 | Russ | Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 |
| 07:06:43 | Russ | options: none |
| 07:06:43 | Russ | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 07:06:43 | Russ | shannon_pcmcia_init: Request for IRQ 16777216 failed |
| 07:06:43 | Russ | Unable to initialize kernel PCMCIA service. |
| 07:06:46 | Russ | little work.... |
| 07:10:16 | BZFlag | I've got some inferno source I probably should not have. |
| 07:11:38 | Russ | so you don't have the source for the ir keyboard stuff then, do you? |
| 07:11:40 | BZFlag | most of it deals with the DSP. some is for the Serial flash. can't find any keyboard stuff. |
| 07:11:44 | Russ | what doesn't it say? |
| 07:12:28 | Russ | and the DSP stuff you don't have, does it say what chip it is? |
| 07:14:50 | Russ | Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 |
| 07:14:50 | Russ | options: none |
| 07:14:51 | Russ | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 07:15:00 | Russ | well, it looks like the slots are loaded |
| 07:15:03 | Russ | wonder what they do |
| 07:16:10 | BZFlag | you fixed the Request for IRQ 16777216 failed ? |
| 07:16:36 | BZFlag | got a CF card and carrier? that should be the easiest. |
| 07:17:56 | Russ | yah, fixed that |
| 07:18:00 | BZFlag | get any email lately? |
| 07:18:04 | Russ | I have nothing pcmcia here I don't think |
| 07:18:07 | Russ | sure did |
| 07:18:36 | BZFlag | well, I've got plenty. patches? |
| 07:18:48 | Russ | lemme make one |
| 07:18:54 | BZFlag | got cardctl? |
| 07:19:06 | BZFlag | ok |
| 07:22:16 | Russ | try that |
| 07:22:25 | Russ | I don't know if 2.4 needs cardctl, does it? |
| 07:23:09 | Russ | oops, the last hunk is b0rked as far as dirs go |
| 07:23:15 | Russ | I think you can fix it |
| 07:23:21 | Russ | --- ../../include/asm/arch/shannon.h 25 Jul 2001 02:04:15 -0000 1.3 |
| 07:23:21 | Russ | +++ ../../include/asm/arch/shannon.h 31 Jul 2001 08:11:45 -0000 |
| 07:23:28 | BZFlag | hmm. I use it on ipaq as "cardctl status" and "cardctl ident" |
| 07:23:39 | Russ | to tlinux/include/asm/arch/shannon.h |
| 07:24:01 | Russ | see what happens without it, there is stuff in /proc |
| 07:26:03 | Russ | any clue what I can use to break everything out info files? |
| 07:29:16 | BZFlag | fixed the patch, menuconfig building ide_cs, wavelan_cs, and pcnet_cs etc. |
| 07:29:31 | Russ | ah, munpack |
| 07:30:21 | BZFlag | or "formail -e -s ..." ? |
| 07:30:29 | Russ | munpack is2630 |
| 07:33:39 | Russ | if( 0 != readMG( &dspData ) ) |
| 07:33:43 | Russ | some pretty scary code |
| 07:34:02 | Russ | a bit like... if readMG() == TRUE.... |
| 07:34:04 | Russ | arghhh |
| 07:34:06 | BZFlag | heh, what do you want for nothin' ? |
| 07:34:11 | Russ | yah yah yah |
| 07:38:37 | | so is tuxbox development team located in US? |
| 07:38:37 | Russ | so? |
| 07:38:51 | Russ | is the kernel compiling? |
| 07:40:15 | BZFlag | kernel finished, modules now... |
| 07:40:58 | Russ | if this works, I'll do -tux3, and add any neccessary pcmcia tools to the jffs2 image |
| 07:43:29 | BZFlag | zmodem... |
| 07:43:57 | Russ | lrzsz is on the latest jffs2 image |
| 07:44:19 | Russ | even works with ymodem, strangely enough |
| 07:44:27 | Russ | did ymodem by accident |
| 07:44:46 | BZFlag | yeah, copying the tarball over with zmodem now. |
| 07:44:57 | Russ | the modules? |
| 07:45:20 | BZFlag | yeah. |
| 07:47:01 | BZFlag | dl kernel... |
| 07:47:25 | Russ | all 3.3V cards? |
| 07:48:00 | BZFlag | wavelan is not. just wanted to see what happens. I have both 3v and 5v pcnet cards. |
| 07:48:09 | BZFlag | hmm... actually my 5v is at work. |
| 07:48:35 | BZFlag | flashing |
| 07:48:45 | Russ | should give a warning on 5V cards |
| 07:48:56 | Russ | CS asked for 5V, applying 3.3V.. |
| 07:49:13 | Russ | and "Warning, Can't perform reset" |
| 07:49:35 | Russ | oops |
| 07:49:44 | Russ | only the first socket will work |
| 07:50:01 | Russ | in shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket() |
| 07:50:06 | Russ | - if (configure->sock != 0) |
| 07:50:12 | Russ | - return -1; |
| 07:50:49 | BZFlag | cat /proc/bus/pccard/00/status seems to work... |
| 07:50:52 | Russ | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket actually does nothing but print warnings |
| 07:50:52 | BZFlag | now for a card |
| 07:54:28 | BZFlag | CS asked for 5V, applying 3.3V.. |
| 07:55:08 | BZFlag | hmm.. that was a sandisk cf card known to work with inferno. |
| 07:55:12 | Russ | something is communicating |
| 07:55:25 | Russ | well, maybe the card is 3.3V tolerant |
| 07:55:44 | BZFlag | 00 shows SS_DETECT SS_READY SS_POWERON SS_BATDEAD SS_BATWARN |
| 07:56:00 | Russ | maybe I should set bvd1, bvd2 to 1 |
| 07:57:04 | Russ | see if it still works with SS_BATDEAD SS_BATWARN |
| 07:58:10 | Russ | arghh...more stupid mistakes |
| 07:59:34 | BZFlag | erik andersen should have his ts up on wednesday. |
| 07:59:49 | BZFlag | if you have any ash issues left, be sure to mail him. |
| 08:00:01 | Russ | ash seems all set |
| 08:00:14 | Russ | I did one commit regarding unsigned chars on arm |
| 08:00:29 | BZFlag | ahh. |
| 08:00:30 | Russ | ok, another sa1100_shannon.c emailed to you |
| 08:12:27 | BZFlag | building and uploading... |
| 08:15:34 | BZFlag | will that effect any of the modules? sa1100_cs ? |
| 08:26:16 | BZFlag | sends a new sa1100_cs.o over... |
| 08:29:17 | BZFlag | well bvd1 and 2 are in k_flags... but no progress. |
| 08:29:26 | BZFlag | thinks we need cardmgr |
| 08:30:31 | BZFlag | hmm... "ifconfig lo 127.0.01 up" hangs. |
| 08:31:46 | BZFlag | ctrl-a f s ctrl-a f b works ;-) |
| 08:52:45 | Russ | really? |
| 08:52:56 | Russ | so it does |
| 08:53:12 | Russ | the sysrq |
| 08:53:32 | Russ | the ifconfig doesn't hang |
| 08:55:19 | Russ | 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.8 ms |
| 09:14:53 | BZFlag | hmmm.. ifconfig hangs for me. I wonder why. |
| 12:33:47 | cworth | BZFlag: from what I've heard, almost all 5V wavelan cards work at 3.3, (hurrah!). |
| 12:38:27 | mallum | cworth: whats the deal with with 3.3 and 5 volts ? |
| 12:38:38 | mallum | cworth: are most cards 5v ? |
| 12:48:49 | cworth | mallum: I've no idea what the relative proportions are. |
| 12:58:35 | mallum | cworth: but do laptops generally support both voltages ? |
| 13:02:07 | nikos | mallum: Yes. |
| 14:16:34 | Tangent | and wonders why nothing happens when I type |
| 14:16:39 | Tangent | spots the good looking progress on the pcmcia driver |
| 14:54:31 | mallum | hopes his tuxscreens will arrive this week |
| 15:34:34 | | tangent was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 17 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying: spots the good looking progress on the pcmcia driver [Tue Jul 31 15:16:39 2001] |
| 15:34:34 | tvraman | ibot: seen tangent? |
| 19:35:42 | | nikos: Bowling Green, Bowling Green-Warren County Regional Airport, KY, United States; (KBWG) 37-57-51N 086-25-26W 161M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 03:53 PM EDT; Dew Point: 71.1 F (21.7 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.16 in. Hg (1021 hPa); Relative Humidity: 52%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 91.0 F (32.8 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the E (100 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT) |
| 19:35:42 | nikos | ibot: weather for kbwg |
| 19:42:55 | mallum | thats hot |
| 19:43:09 | nikos | Nah, about the usual around here, it will get worse. |
| 19:43:29 | mallum | lots of air con everywhere though ? |
| 19:43:44 | nikos | Pretty much, I didn't have any in college though. |
| 19:45:33 | mallum | were you at colledge before air con was invented ? |
| 19:46:03 | nikos | mallum: Heh, no. Many apartments around the college still don't have air conditioning. |
| 19:46:15 | mallum | but T1 lines ? |
| 19:46:32 | nikos | mallum: To the apartments? :) |
| 19:46:35 | mallum | yeah |
| 19:47:08 | mallum | ;) |
| 19:47:21 | mallum | nikos: did you get a tuxscreen ? |
| 19:47:26 | nikos | No, but most would have access to @Home. ;) |
| 19:47:54 | nikos | mallum: No, I'm trying to save money right now, and I don't really have much free time. I'm being a wimp and will probably wait until it is further along. |
| 19:48:31 | mallum | yeah I should be saving money too...... |
| 19:49:02 | mallum | nikos: you working at the mo ? |
| 19:49:45 | nikos | mallum: Do you mean am I working or do you mean am I making any money. Those two things are not necessarily equivalent for me as I'm self-employed. |
| 19:50:09 | mallum | nikos: erm, are you making money ;) ? |
| 19:50:48 | nikos | mallum: A little, enough to pay the bills basically. |
| 19:51:18 | nikos | Actually, I would be doing pretty good if it weren't for the debt level that I built up when I was first getting started. |
| 19:51:35 | mallum | yeah me too. Im freeloading at this magazine place till september - they dont really give me much todo though |
| 19:51:59 | mallum | I think Im just there so they can sopend there budget , so they get the same budget next year |
| 19:52:25 | nikos | Cool, can you work on ipaq stuff from there? ;) |
| 19:52:42 | mallum | well thats why I got this new laptop ........ |
| 19:53:01 | mallum | for a buit of covert hacking with quick workspace switching skills |
| 19:53:05 | nikos | Ah |
| 19:53:08 | nikos | Cool |
| 19:53:31 | mallum | I had my little viao but it'll a little too small for serious hacking |
| 19:53:44 | mallum | they stuck me on an NT box too |
| 19:54:35 | nikos | Yeah. I'm not sure I could hack any laptop, I'm addicted to ergo-keyboards. |
| 19:58:08 | | Russ|werk: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 19:58:08 | Russ|werk | ibot: weather kpho |
| 20:00:52 | | Russ|werk: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 20:00:52 | Russ|werk | ibot: weather kpNX |
| 20:02:27 | mallum | nikos: dem wierd keyboards with 2 creaters in them ? |
| 20:03:12 | Russ|werk | creaters? |
| 20:03:17 | nikos | mallum: 'creaters'? I like them best when the middle is highest. |
| 20:03:46 | mallum | oh sorry I meant like 2 'pits' ok keys with a big gap between then |
| 20:03:59 | nikos | Ah, yes. |
| 20:04:05 | mallum | each hand fits in each 'pit' |
| 20:04:17 | nikos | Ah, no. Not quite that ergo. I'm too cheap for those. |
| 20:04:43 | mallum | At my last co, all the kids in the US had those |
| 20:04:50 | nikos | Interesting. |
| 20:05:11 | mallum | All Im bothered about is the sound the keys make |
| 20:05:27 | mallum | a clack more than a click you know. .... |
| 20:05:34 | nikos | I don't like noisy keys. |
| 20:06:06 | mallum | my sun keyboard is like a machine gun |
| 20:24:15 | | Russ|werk: Phoenix, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, AZ, United States; (KPHX) 33-26-03N 112-03-04W 336M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 04:56 PM EDT; Dew Point: 64.0 F (17.8 C); Heat index: 104 F (40 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.83 in. Hg (1010 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.05 inches (1.8 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 29%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 102.0 F (38.9 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SSE (160 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) |
| 20:24:15 | Russ|werk | ibot weather kphx |
| 20:38:54 | | terrys: Toronto Pearson Int'L. Ont., Canada; (CYYZ) 43-40N 079-38W 173M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 05:00 PM EDT; Dew Point: 59 F (15 C); Heat index: 104 F (40 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.24 in. Hg (1024 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.05 inches (1.8 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 45%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 82 F (28 C); Visibility: 15 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SSE (160 degrees) at 5 MPH (5 KT) |
| 20:38:54 | terrys | ibot weather cyyz |
| 20:40:23 | terrys | wow - where exactly does ibot get the weather from ? |
| 20:40:40 | nikos | NOAA web server |
| 20:40:48 | | nikos: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 20:40:48 | nikos | ibot: weather sldjfas |
| 20:41:26 | terrys | NOAA appears to serve up international data as well |
| 20:41:40 | nikos | Yep |
| 20:42:02 | terrys | cool |
| 20:47:26 | | terrys: London / Heathrow Airport, United Kingdom; (EGLL) 51-29N 000-27W 0M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 05:20 PM EDT; Dew Point: 59 F (15 C); Heat index: 104 F (40 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.30 in. Hg (1026 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.05 inches (1.8 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 72%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 68 F (20 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the E (080 degrees) at 17 MPH (15 KT) (direction variable) |
| 20:47:26 | terrys | ibot weather egll |
| 20:47:56 | Russ|werk | is it ever any different? |
| 20:48:15 | terrys | huh ? |
| 20:48:29 | Russ|werk | the weather in london |
| 20:48:37 | terrys | LOL.. |
| 20:48:49 | terrys | apparently not... |
| 20:49:23 | nikos | What's up with that Temperature vs Heat index? |
| 20:49:51 | Russ|werk | if its hot and humid, it feels hotter |
| 20:50:08 | terrys | isnt it akin to windchill in winter |
| 20:50:09 | Russ|werk | if its hot and dry, it feels cooler, especially if there is a bit of wind |
| 20:50:10 | nikos | That's way off though. |
| 20:50:10 | mallum | its very hot here ( much hotter last couple of days ) |
| 20:50:18 | nikos | Heat index: 104 F (40 C) |
| 20:50:22 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 20:50:23 | nikos | Temperature: 68 F (20 C) |
| 20:50:26 | Russ|werk | so it is...hmmm |
| 20:50:48 | | nikos: Bowling Green, Bowling Green-Warren County Regional Airport, KY, United States; (KBWG) 37-57-51N 086-25-26W 161M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 04:53 PM EDT; Dew Point: 70.0 F (21.1 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.15 in. Hg (1020 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 48%; Sky conditions: clear; Temperature: 91.9 F (33.3 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the ENE (070 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) |
| 20:50:48 | nikos | ibot: weather kbwg |
| 20:51:19 | nikos | compare there, granted 48% vs 72% humidity but... |
| 20:51:35 | nikos | Sure seems more humid than that here. |
| 20:51:54 | mallum | and we dont have air con........ |
| 20:52:00 | mallum | maybe it takes that into account |
| 20:52:04 | mallum | ;) |
| 20:52:06 | nikos | :P |
| 20:52:30 | | terrys: Iqaluit, N. W. T., Canada; (CYFB) 63-45N 068-33W 34M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 05:00 PM EDT; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.92 in. Hg (1013 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 68%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 66 F (19 C); Visibility: 30 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SE (140 degrees) at 6 MPH (6 KT) |
| 20:52:30 | terrys | ibot weather cyfb |
| 20:52:42 | terrys | some much for heat index |
| 20:54:12 | nikos | Interesting. |
| 20:54:21 | terrys | north of 60 |
| 20:59:50 | Russ|werk | I like the wind temperature |
| 21:00:52 | Russ|werk | it seems to get stuck on a paticular heat index |
| 21:00:59 | | Russ|werk: Phoenix, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, AZ, United States; (KPHX) 33-26-03N 112-03-04W 336M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 04:56 PM EDT; Dew Point: 64.0 F (17.8 C); Heat index: 104 F (40 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.83 in. Hg (1010 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.05 inches (1.8 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 29%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 102.0 F (38.9 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SSE (160 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) |
| 21:00:59 | Russ|werk | ibot weather kphx |
| 21:01:38 | Russ|werk | the heat index here makes sense |
| 21:01:49 | Russ|werk | maybe cetain stations don't have it |
| 21:01:58 | Russ|werk | and ibot just uses the last heat index |
| 21:02:33 | terrys | that would be - when in doubt average it over the whole planet ? |
| 21:03:38 | nikos | Russ|werk: But then your humidity is real low as well. |
| 21:04:19 | Russ|werk | the heat index stayed at 104 (kphx) until you asked about kbwg |
| 21:05:01 | nikos | OK, that is a little odd. |
| 21:06:20 | | terrys: Moscow / Sheremet'Ye , Russian Federation; (UUEE) 55-59N 037-30E; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 05:30 PM EDT; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.85 in. Hg (1011 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 72%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 64 F (18 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the W (270 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 KT) |
| 21:06:20 | terrys | ibot weather uuee |
| 21:06:57 | nikos | maybe the answer is always either 104 or 96. |
| 21:07:17 | terrys | binary weather ? |
| 21:08:12 | | Russ|werk: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 21:08:12 | Russ|werk | ibot: weather kwhy |
| 21:08:23 | Russ|werk | or not |
| 21:35:39 | mallum | is away: bed time - night all |
| 22:05:12 | | jacques_gone: San Jose, San Jose International Airport, CA, United States; (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 06:53 PM EDT; Dew Point: 57.9 F (14.4 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.9 in. Hg (1012 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 48%; Sky conditions: clear; Temperature: 79.0 F (26.1 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the NW (320 degrees) at 12 MPH (11 KT) |
| 22:05:12 | jacques_gone | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 22:06:03 | Russ|werk | nice heat index |
| 22:06:43 | nikos | Anybody gotten anything other than 96 or 104? |
| 22:06:50 | terrys | nope |
| 22:08:25 | | terrys: Sao Paulo Aeropor-To , Brazil; (SBSP) 23-37S 046-39W 802M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 05:30 PM EDT; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.24 in. Hg (1024 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 68%; Sky conditions: partly cloudy; Temperature: 66 F (19 C); Visibility: 4 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SSE (160 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT) |
| 22:08:25 | terrys | ibot weather sbsp |
| 22:09:02 | Russ|werk | also, the weather is always the same |
| 22:09:10 | Russ|werk | " Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed;" |
| 22:09:24 | terrys | this is weird - Sao Paulo is only 66 |
| 22:12:49 | | terrys: Caracas / Maiquetia Aerop. Intl. Simon Bolivar, Venezuela; (SVMI) 10-36N 066-59W 48M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 06:00 PM EDT; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Heat index: 96 F (36 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.24 in. Hg (1024 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 68%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 66 F (19 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: SVMI 312200Z 05003KT 9999 +DZ FEW013CB BKN016; Wind: from the NE (050 degrees) at 3 MPH (3 KT) |
| 22:12:49 | terrys | ibot weather svmi |
| 22:14:21 | Russ|werk | same pressure , altimeter, temp |
| 22:14:34 | terrys | yeah everything seems stuck |
| 22:14:34 | Russ|werk | dew point |
| 22:14:48 | Russ|werk | humitiy |
| 22:15:02 | Russ|werk | er, humidity |
| 22:15:12 | Russ|werk | sky conditions... |
| 22:15:20 | Russ|werk | watch though |
| 22:15:29 | | Russ|werk: Phoenix, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, AZ, United States; (KPHX) 33-26-03N 112-03-04W 336M; last updated: Jul 31, 2001 06:56 PM EDT; Dew Point: 61.0 F (16.1 C); Heat index: 102 F (39 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.8 in. Hg (1009 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.03 inches (0.9 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 26%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 102.0 F (38.9 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds, towering cumulus clouds observed; Wind: from the SSE (150 degrees) at 12 MPH (11 KT) gusting to 17 MPH (15 KT) |
| 22:15:29 | Russ|werk | ibot: weather kphx |
| 22:16:06 | terrys | yeah the US data seems fine... |
| 22:16:40 | Russ|werk | I think if the data isn't there, it just uses the old data |
| 22:17:11 | terrys | it must - geez you wouldn't want to use this for flight planning |
| 22:18:55 | Russ|werk | I don't understand what happened |
| 22:19:17 | terrys | how do you mean ? |
| 22:19:20 | Russ|werk | I asked some channel bot abouth the weather conditions |
| 22:19:48 | Russ|werk | quoting after the crash |
| 22:20:30 | terrys | I don't follow ? |
| 22:21:26 | | 3.28571428571429 |
| 22:21:26 | Russ|werk | ibot: 23 / 7 |
| 22:21:42 | | 42 |
| 22:21:42 | Russ|werk | ibot: 6 * 9 |
| 22:22:05 | | 144 |
| 22:22:05 | Russ|werk | ibot: 12 * 12 |
| 22:23:04 | terrys | hmmm, strange |
| 22:23:52 | terrys | who owns ibot ? |
| 22:24:08 | Russ|werk | tim |
| 22:27:18 | | Russ|werk: I forgot it |
| 22:27:18 | Russ|werk | ibot: forget it |
| 22:27:36 | terrys | :) |
| 22:27:42 | | Russ|werk, I didn't have anything matching 'it' |
| 22:27:42 | Russ|werk | ibot: forget it |
| 22:28:30 | terrys | does it still know about botsnacks |
| 22:29:01 | | :) |
| 22:29:01 | terrys | ibot botsnack |
| 22:29:13 | | thanks Russ|werk :) |
| 22:29:13 | Russ|werk | ibot: no botsnack for you |
| 22:29:20 | terrys | :( |
| 22:32:39 | terrys | needs his own botsnack now... |