| 02:14:17 | sgodsell | Hello :) |
| 02:15:02 | sgodsell | Tangent: did you ever figure out the sboot? |
| 02:37:04 | BZFlag | did you get a backup image over sboot? what's the copy command you used? |
| 02:37:20 | BZFlag | hacks another phone... |
| 02:45:03 | BZFlag | woohoo! flashed in a working blob over serial only. ;-) |
| 03:05:40 | jacques_work | whoo-hoo!!! |
| 03:52:47 | BZFlag | man do I hate ascii uploads.... need to add the xmodem patches for sure... |
| 04:11:08 | Russ | should be able to break up the sboot and inferno images with dd so they can be flashed with blob |
| 05:18:29 | Tangent | BZFlag : Yep.. my backup worked |
| 05:18:34 | Tangent | The command I used was |
| 05:18:47 | Tangent | c f!all D!inferno.backup |
| 05:18:56 | Tangent | c F!all D!inferno.backup |
| 05:19:02 | Tangent | Capitals are important |
| 05:19:03 | BZFlag | sweet. |
| 05:19:25 | BZFlag | I did c D!blob F!all and now I have blob on a non-jtag phone. |
| 05:20:55 | Tangent | BZFlag : Cool... Excellent stuff :) |
| 05:22:17 | Tangent | BZFlag : Do you have a booting kernel too? |
| 05:23:50 | BZFlag | no. see topic |
| 05:27:32 | Tangent | Flashing new inferno now |
| 05:28:24 | Tangent | Tho I suspect that I'll now write anything to flash untill I remove some screws etc |
| 05:28:53 | Tangent | s/now/not |
| 06:22:54 | Tangent | BZFlag : Oh.. good stuff :) |
| 06:32:33 | Tangent | BZFlag : I assume that there's still the initrd problem? |
| 06:36:32 | BZFlag | Russ is hacking on that now. |
| 06:36:48 | BZFlag | I am building in the sa1100 lcd driver for kicks. |
| 06:38:37 | Russ | now tesing a 2109314b image |
| 06:38:49 | Russ | these tests will take longer.... |
| 06:40:10 | BZFlag | that's compressed size right? still less that the 8M uncompressed size right? |
| 06:40:33 | Russ | no, it will decompress to 8M |
| 06:41:26 | Russ | dammit BZFlag, when is that xmodem you keep talking about going to be ready |
| 06:41:49 | BZFlag | heh, perhaps I'll hack the zmodem out of the yopy loader and add that. |
| 06:42:27 | Tangent | BZFlag : Do I really need 12V to unporotect the flash.. this looks frgihteningly like it worked... |
| 06:42:41 | Russ | I needed 12V |
| 06:42:42 | Tangent | flash: e0000-fffff: erasing/writing... done |
| 06:42:43 | Tangent | flash: 100000-11ffff: erasing/writing... done |
| 06:42:44 | Tangent | flash: 120000-13ffff: erasing/writing... done |
| 06:42:46 | Tangent | flash: 140000-15ffff: erasing/writing... done |
| 06:43:00 | Tangent | It didn't overwrite the bootloader becasue it was protected, but it seems to have overwritten the rest |
| 06:43:08 | BZFlag | Tangent: you need 12v to unprotect. looks like you flashed all the blocks that are not protected. |
| 06:43:27 | BZFlag | that should be ok. |
| 06:43:32 | Tangent | BZFlag : I see.. I was assuming that 12v was Vpp for the flash |
| 06:43:57 | Tangent | BZFlag : Should be OK as it... will boot fine with new images, but old bootloader? |
| 06:44:10 | BZFlag | hmmm... actually, the partitioning changed, so it might not be ok. but you should still boot cause the sboot etc is protected. |
| 06:44:47 | BZFlag | the rootfs might be corrupt. I'd have to review the two partition maps and see what might be overlapping. |
| 06:45:31 | BZFlag | I know there is a new big kernel partition, but it is not used my default, and overlaps with some other partition. |
| 06:46:16 | Russ | BZFlag: the old partitioning was bad |
| 06:46:25 | Russ | kernel start 0xc0008000 |
| 06:46:34 | BZFlag | Russ: this is inferno partitioning. even worse. ;-) |
| 06:46:43 | Russ | kernel length 0xc00f8000 |
| 06:46:47 | Tangent | Well.. bootloader is still there, but phone no longer boots an OS |
| 06:46:58 | Tangent | nice re-assuring black screen on boot now ;) |
| 06:47:02 | Russ | stack start: 0xc0100000 - 4 |
| 06:47:05 | BZFlag | heh, time to reflash your backup... ;-) |
| 06:47:33 | Russ | 2M image works |
| 06:47:47 | Tangent | Woohoo :) |
| 06:47:58 | Russ | 2109314 <- works |
| 06:48:05 | Tangent | Hooray :) |
| 06:48:05 | Russ | 2421325 <- doesn't work... |
| 06:48:14 | Tangent | Bah.. sucks :) |
| 06:48:23 | Tangent | Need bigger ramdisk support in the kernl |
| 06:48:31 | Tangent | anyhow.. now I must go to work.. |
| 06:48:39 | Tangent | catch you all in about 9 hours time |
| 06:49:24 | Russ | 8M is as big as you get |
| 06:50:26 | BZFlag | Tangent: cya. |
| 06:50:57 | BZFlag | why not disable initrd and flash a fs? |
| 06:51:14 | Russ | caus, I think initrd should work |
| 06:54:20 | BZFlag | have you used initrd that large with blob before so we know it's not a blob issue? |
| 06:54:30 | Russ | think so |
| 07:11:16 | Russ | 2266780 is ok... |
| 07:12:28 | BZFlag | pretty odd. |
| 07:12:50 | Russ | just takes so long to test |
| 07:13:00 | Russ | maybe its something about the nico disk |
| 07:13:21 | BZFlag | that the 2421325 image? |
| 07:15:28 | Russ | yah |
| 07:15:49 | BZFlag | can you loop mount it after decompressing? |
| 07:15:52 | Russ | yah |
| 07:16:03 | BZFlag | tar it up and build another? |
| 07:16:14 | Russ | ramdisks aren't tared |
| 07:16:57 | BZFlag | no, I mean loopmount the one you have, tar the contents up, make a new ext2 image, loopmount that and untar the archive into it. |
| 07:17:23 | Russ | would think cp -a |
| 07:17:38 | BZFlag | ok. if you like. |
| 07:18:15 | BZFlag | still remembers the days when loop devices were not freed right, so default for him is to use a few as possible. |
| 07:18:34 | Russ | they seem safe now |
| 07:19:14 | BZFlag | yeah, they have been for a _long_ time now. ;-/ |
| 07:20:47 | BZFlag | has been hacking linux since about 0.94 |
| 07:21:05 | Russ | yikes |
| 07:21:46 | BZFlag | a lot has changed since then and almost all of it for the better. ;-) |
| 07:22:16 | Russ | huh...I always thought dungeon was a rewrite of zork |
| 07:22:37 | Russ | when actually its an early version that is coded in fortran for unix |
| 07:22:46 | BZFlag | zork was not open when dungeon what written IIRC |
| 07:23:03 | BZFlag | s/what/was/ |
| 07:23:07 | Russ | zork wasn't yet released |
| 07:23:58 | BZFlag | used to play rogue and hack back before nethack. |
| 07:27:31 | Russ | 2369355 works |
| 07:28:27 | BZFlag | got a shell yet? |
| 07:28:42 | Russ | no, these are urandom images |
| 07:28:52 | BZFlag | that's what I guessed.. |
| 07:29:20 | Russ | downloading a 2984291 byte one.... |
| 07:29:31 | BZFlag | I tried the sa1100 lcd fb, and crashed. |
| 07:29:56 | BZFlag | does blob do over 115200? |
| 07:30:22 | Russ | dunno |
| 07:30:31 | Russ | does your serial port I think is the question |
| 07:30:42 | BZFlag | I know console divisor is at 1 at 115200, but there moght be code elsewhere. |
| 07:30:45 | Russ | normal 16550A's don't |
| 07:31:01 | Russ | try a divisor of 0 :) |
| 07:31:13 | BZFlag | yeah, that'll work. ;-) |
| 07:31:14 | Russ | seriously though |
| 07:31:25 | Russ | most of the arm divisors are n + 1 or n - 1 |
| 07:31:41 | BZFlag | hmm... |
| 07:31:42 | Russ | they just cut out values that don't make sense |
| 07:32:00 | Russ | er, arm register ranges, not divisors specifically |
| 07:35:14 | Russ | booting... |
| 07:35:20 | Russ | decompressing... |
| 07:35:25 | Russ | ... |
| 07:35:31 | Russ | ... |
| 07:35:35 | Russ | umm |
| 07:35:37 | Russ | ... |
| 07:36:01 | Russ | so its not just nicos kernel |
| 07:36:43 | Russ | the breakage happens between the unlikely values of 0x24274B and 0x24F24D |
| 07:38:31 | Russ | which would be somewhere around 0xc1248000 |
| 07:39:03 | BZFlag | hmmm... not likely numbers from what I can tell. |
| 07:39:23 | BZFlag | where does blob put the compressed image? |
| 07:39:33 | Russ | 0xc1000000 |
| 07:39:34 | BZFlag | ie: where are we compressing from and too? |
| 07:39:42 | Russ | er |
| 07:39:44 | Russ | sorry |
| 07:39:53 | Russ | "around 0xc8248000" |
| 07:40:03 | Russ | and at 0xc800000 |
| 07:40:11 | Russ | I don't know where its decompressing to |
| 07:40:33 | Russ | setup_initrd(0xc8000000, 3*1024*1024); |
| 07:41:03 | Russ | er, at 0xc8000000 |
| 07:41:51 | Russ | lemme see if a raw 3M image works |
| 07:42:46 | BZFlag | RAMDISK: Done |
| 07:42:46 | BZFlag | Freeing initrd memory: 3072K |
| 07:42:46 | BZFlag | VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). |
| 07:42:46 | BZFlag | Freeing init memory: 44K |
| 07:42:46 | BZFlag | Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. |
| 07:43:11 | Russ | you have no init |
| 07:43:17 | BZFlag | ah, but I do. |
| 07:43:28 | Russ | do you have libraries for it? |
| 07:43:33 | Russ | and a ld.so.cache? |
| 07:43:38 | BZFlag | and a linuxrc and the libs. |
| 07:43:53 | Russ | you need ld.so.cache |
| 07:44:02 | BZFlag | wish I could boot "init=/bin/sh" to poke around... |
| 07:44:24 | Russ | if you compiled your own kernel you could |
| 07:44:58 | Russ | actually, I think it will try /bin/sh if it doesn't find init or linuxrc |
| 07:45:01 | BZFlag | yeah, rebuilding now after nuking cmdline.h |
| 07:45:07 | Russ | umm....no |
| 07:45:12 | Russ | just run the config |
| 07:45:16 | Russ | go to general setup |
| 07:45:21 | Russ | and edit the command line there |
| 07:45:36 | Russ | then make zImage |
| 07:45:39 | BZFlag | heh, edited .config by hand. old dog, new tricks you know. |
| 07:49:42 | Russ | 3M raw ext2 is ok |
| 07:53:30 | Russ | got a prompt yet? |
| 07:53:43 | BZFlag | nope, kernel still uploading... |
| 07:54:31 | Russ | uploading a nico ramdisk sans 400k audio sample |
| 07:54:59 | BZFlag | woohoo! a prompt! |
| 07:55:14 | Russ | neato |
| 07:57:14 | BZFlag | hmmm... you were right though, no /etc/ld.so.cache there. |
| 07:57:57 | BZFlag | I was sure I made one. |
| 07:58:00 | BZFlag | hmmm. |
| 07:58:23 | BZFlag | gotta love the "echo *" version of ls |
| 07:58:27 | Russ | booting.... |
| 07:59:34 | Russ | er.... |
| 07:59:44 | Russ | a 2112888 byte ramdisk just didn't boot |
| 08:00:13 | BZFlag | bummer. this is odd. |
| 08:00:34 | Russ | it is the nico ramdisk without a sample sound |
| 15:35:46 | Russ | the nicos jffs2 image boots fine |
| 15:38:04 | BZFlag | sweet! what kernel options? root=/dev/mtdblock/2 ? |
| 15:43:26 | nikos | Umm, ChanServ? |
| 15:44:39 | nikos | I just noticed, apparently we are supposed to be changing the topic by telling ChanServ rather than doing it directly. |
| 15:44:50 | BZFlag | yeah, I just changed that. |
| 15:45:25 | BZFlag | unlocked it but that means no topic retention. I've noticed that doesn't work well anyway. |
| 15:46:51 | bworth | sounds like good news from the tuxscreen camp! congrats! |
| 15:47:27 | BZFlag | thank Russ, he did the hacking! |
| 15:47:56 | bworth | good work, Russ! |
| 15:48:34 | bworth | does the install require Jtag? |
| 16:24:50 | cworth | woohoo! booting to Linux! |
| 16:25:41 | cworth | nikos I'm here now |
| 16:26:41 | nikos | cworth: Was going to ask something about sed. I didn't exactly fix my problem, but managed to work around it. |
| 16:36:16 | bworth | cworth: linux on shannon? |
| 16:40:20 | cworth | bworth: I'm not booting yet. I was just excited to see the announcement. :) |
| 16:40:51 | cworth | this should give me something to play with while my wife is out of town for the next week. |
| 16:40:54 | bworth | oh, darn - though you had it working too |
| 16:41:25 | cworth | bworth: nope. no hardware at work. |
| 16:41:32 | bworth | cworth: a whole week? you lucky dog (don't tell my wife i said that, though) |
| 16:41:53 | bworth | now if i can just come up with an excuse to drive down and visit for a week :) |
| 17:33:26 | BZFlag | I installed on a non-jtag phone last night. |
| 17:33:39 | BZFlag | it's got a shell prompt over serial now. |
| 17:33:55 | nikos | Cool |
| 17:34:02 | andersee | BZFlag: wohoo! Linux on the tuxscreen! |
| 17:35:05 | BZFlag | so all you phone owners can hack away now. no need for jtag even. thank russ for doing the last bit of hacking. ;-) |
| 17:36:23 | andersee | BZFlag: very cool. I need to install Linux on my phone then. Add in a NIC and I'll have a nice little email appliance.... |
| 17:37:42 | BZFlag | pcmcia support is probably next, then perhaps an initrd that does nfsroot. |
| 17:38:43 | Tangent | sees the news... Hooray |
| 17:40:15 | mallum | Hi Tangent + all |
| 17:40:23 | mallum | whats the news ? |
| 17:40:36 | nikos | <BZFlag> I installed on a non-jtag phone last night. |
| 17:40:36 | nikos | <BZFlag> it's got a shell prompt over serial now. |
| 17:40:36 | nikos | <nikos> Cool |
| 17:40:55 | mallum | hi nikos |
| 17:41:01 | mallum | thats fantastic news |
| 17:41:01 | nikos | hiya |
| 17:41:21 | cworth | BZFlag: Fantastic news! |
| 17:41:26 | mallum | better put my order in, BZFlag you around ? |
| 17:41:32 | mallum | hi cworth |
| 17:41:47 | BZFlag | mallum: here |
| 17:42:18 | mallum | BZFlag: I paypal you the money for 2 tuxscreens in about an hour |
| 17:42:23 | cworth | BZFlag: I just remembered I have a phone here at work. Notes on the web? |
| 17:42:35 | mallum | BZFlag: They'll need to be shiiped to the UK |
| 17:42:59 | mallum | BZFlag: Tangent said this was an extra 69$ ? tangent ? |
| 17:43:10 | Tangent | That was shipping |
| 17:43:45 | mallum | BZFlag: Can you *please* write on the package 'For Repair' or otherwise I'll get charged bu customs :( |
| 17:44:23 | mallum | BZFlag: is that ok ? |
| 17:45:29 | BZFlag | mallum: include the details in the paypal payment. |
| 17:46:01 | mallum | BZFlag: will do |
| 17:46:17 | BZFlag | cworth: DL the free inferno, follow InfernoRemote instructions. see the bottom of the page. |
| 17:46:53 | BZFlag | cworth: grab blob from the _blob_ cvs tree, be sure to get the blob_1_0_9_hack tree. |
| 17:47:12 | mallum | BZFlag: no luck as yet getting linux to speak to the tuxscreens framebuffer device ? |
| 17:47:17 | cworth | BZFlag: nod. saw that note on RussProgress |
| 17:47:18 | BZFlag | cworth: build that, flash it with inferno, then use it to flash a kernel and jffs image and your up. |
| 17:48:07 | cworth | BZFlag: simple enough! Where's the "flash it with inferno" step documented? InfernoRemote? |
| 17:48:11 | mallum | Tangent: how long did your tuxscreens take to arrive ? |
| 17:49:00 | Tangent | mallum : about 10 days |
| 17:49:23 | Tangent | mallum : That was with 4-7 day shipping |
| 17:50:04 | mallum | Tangent: cool, I'll get the same |
| 18:03:08 | Tangent | cworth : You want the InfernoRemote docs, The unlockflash doc, and probably the sboot manpage too... |
| 18:03:53 | Tangent | http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/10/sboot.html |
| 18:04:55 | cworth | Tangent: thanks. |
| 18:05:15 | Tangent | cworth : The magic lines once you're connected are... |
| 18:05:32 | Tangent | cworth : c F!all D!<destfile> to backup the current image |
| 18:05:53 | Tangent | cworth : c D!<sourcefile> F!all to write from local to flash |
| 18:06:15 | cworth | Tangent: thanks. Are those on a wiki page already? |
| 18:06:40 | Tangent | cworth : Don't know... I discovered the backup procedure last night just before I went to bed |
| 18:06:52 | Tangent | cworth : Don't know if bzflag has documented the install yet |
| 18:07:00 | cworth | Tangent: OK. I'll make some wiki notes as I go through this then... |
| 18:11:54 | Tangent | Is there a blob+kernel+initrd image that I can flash with yet? |
| 18:19:07 | mallum | Tangent: you have a JTAG ? |
| 18:20:15 | Tangent | mallum : Nope |
| 18:20:28 | Tangent | mallum : But you can get into the built in bootloader from inferno |
| 18:20:43 | mallum | Tangent: and that'll boot Linux ? |
| 18:20:59 | Tangent | mallum : I didn't realise before I purchased, but the tuxscreens come as fully functional units, with built-in addressbook, notepad, web browser and email |
| 18:21:15 | Tangent | mallum : It won't boot linux, but it will write to flash |
| 18:21:26 | Tangent | mallum : So we can use sboot to overwrite itself with blob |
| 18:21:33 | mallum | Tangent: and your gonna live dangerously ? |
| 18:21:57 | Tangent | mallum : If I fail, a jtagger only requires 1x74HC541 and 7 resistors... I have both to hand here |
| 18:22:11 | mallum | Tangent: cool |
| 18:22:15 | Tangent | mallum : Given a couple of hours, I expect I could solder together a jtagger from bits in this room |
| 18:22:40 | Tangent | mallum : And I've always got a spare tuxscreen before I need to do that anyway :) |
| 18:22:53 | mallum | better get on and order |
| 18:23:46 | Russ|werk | it will boot a jffs2 root |
| 18:24:03 | Russ|werk | what I need to get in now is some pcmcia stuff |
| 18:24:11 | Tangent | Russ : Oh.. better still |
| 18:24:28 | Tangent | Russ : I have a 3.3v 96MB CF card here that sboot seemed to talk to |
| 18:24:43 | Russ|werk | how much was the 96M CF? |
| 18:24:45 | Tangent | Russ : I understand that the PCMCIA implementation is somewhat broken on the tuxsc |
| 18:24:57 | Russ|werk | there is no 5V, and there is no reset |
| 18:24:58 | Tangent | Russ : It was 258GBP about two years ago |
| 18:25:05 | Russ|werk | both of which can likely be fixed |
| 18:25:27 | Tangent | Russ : Yeah.. I've seen references to the 5V fix made in a couple of places |
| 18:25:45 | Russ|werk | its not so much a fix, but an addition |
| 18:26:05 | mallum | brb........... |
| 18:27:09 | BZFlag | is back, reading... |
| 18:29:46 | BZFlag | I used the steps that Tangent listed to install blob only. |
| 18:29:58 | BZFlag | well, to backup inferno, then install blob. |
| 18:30:17 | BZFlag | I then used blob to install kernel and ramdisk. |
| 18:31:26 | BZFlag | should be able to chop inferno image into pieces and use blob to reinstall it. ie: install ramdisk, kernel, bootloader pieces in that order that just contain the mem areas from inferno. |
| 18:31:34 | BZFlag | have not tested that yet, but I plan to. |
| 18:32:07 | Russ|werk | maybe blob should have a download all / flash all |
| 18:36:40 | mallum | hi |
| 18:43:23 | mallum | Tangent: can you remember exacly what postage type you selected ? |
| 18:49:06 | Tangent | Oh wow.. it looks like my inferno upgraded suceeded after all |
| 18:49:41 | Tangent | mallum : $68's worth I can't remember exactly what it was called |
| 18:49:47 | Tangent | mallum : That was for two tuxscreens |
| 18:50:23 | mallum | BZFlag: do you remember what Tangents postage type was ? |
| 18:50:50 | Tangent | BZFlag : OK.. I've applied 12V to my board now, so I'm ready to try flashing with blob |
| 18:51:21 | BZFlag | Tangent: use the sboot to unprotect first, then remove 12v and confirm they are still unprotected. |
| 18:51:43 | BZFlag | shaggy recommends that you unprotect 2 or 3 times to be sure. it's quick anyway. |
| 18:53:47 | Tangent | BZFlag : And how do I make sure it's still unprotected? |
| 18:54:56 | Tangent | BZFlag : Is there any harm in just leaving the 12V there the whole time? |
| 18:55:11 | Tangent | i.e. permanently unprotected? |
| 18:57:58 | BZFlag | Tangent: remove the 12v and do a P/m |
| 18:58:54 | BZFlag | Tangent: no harm in leaving the 12v all the time, but I assume you want to remove it eventually, and things like jffs2 might be unhappy to find random blocks protected all of a sudden. |
| 18:59:09 | BZFlag | so to be sure for the long road, check for it now. |
| 18:59:12 | Tangent | BZFlag : OK.. I did P/m and it's given me loads of stuff |
| 18:59:19 | Tangent | What am I looking for there? |
| 19:00:05 | BZFlag | the last column should be all 0, no fs |
| 19:00:12 | BZFlag | er no 'f's |
| 19:00:16 | Tangent | I've got some 3's in there |
| 19:00:40 | BZFlag | that's a partial unprotect if I recal correctly. |
| 19:00:54 | BZFlag | do the "P/u 0" again w/ 12v |
| 19:01:32 | Tangent | P/m |
| 19:01:42 | Tangent | Same number of threes |
| 19:02:11 | BZFlag | what does "P/m" show with the 12 connected? they should all be 0 then. |
| 19:02:20 | Tangent | Ah... third time lucky |
| 19:02:24 | Tangent | Now I get all 0 |
| 19:05:35 | BZFlag | sweet |
| 19:05:35 | Tangent | BZFlag : They were all 0 with 12V connected btw |
| 19:06:36 | Tangent | BZFlag : So next.. where can I download the goodies from? |
| 19:09:12 | mallum | 's mozilla was just crashed by his tuxscreen order :( |
| 19:15:04 | BZFlag | ponders a /download/v0.01/* tree... |
| 19:15:18 | mallum | BZFlag: sent my order :)))) |
| 19:17:20 | Tangent | BZFlag : I think it's time for the download tree... |
| 19:17:36 | Tangent | BZFlag : Having the visibility will encourage more people to leap onboard too |
| 19:17:44 | BZFlag | mallum's order arrives. ship tomorrow. |
| 19:18:24 | mallum | BZFlag: many many thanks |
| 19:29:34 | Tangent | BZFlag : I assume by your silence that you're setting up a download tree so I can get blob down :) |
| 19:30:40 | Tangent | also.. How do I change the connect speed from 9600.. It's way to slow |
| 19:30:48 | Tangent | Takes about an hour to transfer 4MB |
| 19:31:54 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 19:32:01 | Russ|werk | it switches to 115200 |
| 19:32:09 | Russ|werk | (blob does) |
| 19:32:24 | Tangent | I don't have blob, kernel or filesystem images yet |
| 19:32:35 | Russ|werk | Tangent: get the blob CVS from www.sourceforge.net/projects/blob |
| 19:32:39 | Tangent | I'm sitting here with unprotected flash, just waiting for something to up on there |
| 19:32:52 | Tangent | Russ : Is there some pre-compiled things I can use |
| 19:32:58 | Russ|werk | and a cross compiler from the lart pages (probably the 2.95.2 one) |
| 19:33:13 | Tangent | Russ : I'm using inferno on a Window box at the moment... |
| 19:33:35 | Russ|werk | I don't have anything precompiled here |
| 19:33:55 | Tangent | I just want to make sure I get a known good blob, so that I don't have to get my soldering iron out |
| 19:37:40 | Russ|werk | ask BZFlag flag for a precompiled blob |
| 19:37:57 | Russ|werk | todays CVS has something where you can boot a downloaded blob before flashing it |
| 19:38:56 | Tangent | Russ : I asked him, but I think he's playing the strong silent type at the moment... I expect RL has dragged him away |
| 19:39:09 | Russ|werk | RL? |
| 19:39:24 | Tangent | Real Life |
| 21:06:27 | BZFlag | Tangent: heh, yep. meeting after meetings here. |
| 21:06:46 | BZFlag | Russ: you have a jffs2 image now? |
| 21:07:04 | BZFlag | Russ: you want to just ssh these to TuxScreen.net? |
| 21:07:45 | Russ|werk | I ot the ssh image from nico's dir |
| 21:07:55 | Russ|werk | er, got the jffs2 image |
| 21:08:21 | Russ|werk | it seems to be slightly broken, and set to 38400, but it works |
| 21:08:51 | Russ|werk | I can probably put together some busybox/uClib/tinylogin images later |
| 21:10:23 | Tangent | BZFlag : So.. about this blob image for me... please :) |
| 21:13:00 | BZFlag | ok, http://TuxScreen.net/download/v0.1/ |
| 21:15:54 | Tangent | Woohoo :) |
| 21:15:56 | Tangent | Thank you |
| 21:16:11 | Tangent | BZFlag : initrd? |
| 21:18:33 | Tangent | BZFlag : And this blob... I copy it to F!all ? or to F!sboot? |
| 21:18:52 | BZFlag | Tangent: we have not found one we like yet. |
| 21:18:59 | BZFlag | see the (new) README |
| 21:19:41 | Tangent | BZFlag : Where? |
| 21:19:57 | BZFlag | reload http://TuxScreen.net/download/v0.1/ |
| 21:20:47 | Tangent | BZFlag : OOOh.. it's installing :) |
| 21:21:05 | Tangent | flash: 0-7fff: erasing/writing... flash: erasing boot area! (0-7fff) |
| 21:21:06 | mallum | crosses fingers for tangent |
| 21:21:06 | Tangent | <58?><terminal mode> |
| 21:21:07 | Tangent | X, |
| 21:22:33 | Tangent | blob version 1.0.9-hack |
| 21:22:34 | Tangent | Copyright (C) 1999 2000 2001 Jan-Derk Bakker and Erik Mo |
| 21:22:46 | Tangent | :D |
| 21:26:24 | Russ|werk | it does keep going, right? |
| 21:27:35 | BZFlag | Russ: you have write access to that dir, from your SF account name. |
| 21:27:45 | BZFlag | feel free to update anything you like. |
| 21:31:19 | BZFlag | Tangent: go to a 9600 baud terminal app now, no more need for inferno. |
| 21:31:27 | BZFlag | I added sources info to the README |
| 21:33:53 | Russ|werk | can I close tuxscreen bugs as well? |
| 21:34:12 | BZFlag | Russ: sure! ;-) |
| 21:35:46 | BZFlag | I just know that some sf.net folk don't realize the power they have as a member of a project. ;-) |
| 21:40:02 | Russ|werk | rmk is going to do some sizable fb updates in 2.4.7-rmk1 |
| 21:40:29 | Russ|werk | so you might want to wait for 2.4.7-rmk1-np1-tux1 |
| 21:40:35 | Russ|werk | to do fb hacking |
| 21:41:04 | Russ|werk | I'll probably set up the UCB and touchscreen and call it 2.4.6-rmk2-np1-tux2 |
| 21:47:52 | Tangent | http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view.php?topic=InstallingLinux&web=Users |
| 21:48:32 | Tangent | Now I need tutoring on using blob |
| 21:51:27 | Russ|werk | there is a help at boot> |
| 21:51:37 | Russ|werk | blob> download kernel |
| 21:52:09 | Russ|werk | (switch minicom to 115200, alt-p (or ctrl a, p), then i, the enter |
| 21:52:28 | Russ|werk | in a diffrenet window, with minicom still running |
| 21:52:41 | Russ|werk | uuencode zImage zImage > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 21:52:57 | Russ|werk | a series of dots should slowly show up in minicom |
| 21:53:10 | Russ|werk | then, when its done, it will ask you to switch back to 9600 |
| 21:53:30 | Russ|werk | then, blob> flash kernel |
| 21:53:39 | Russ|werk | same for ramdisk, and blob |
| 21:53:54 | Russ|werk | if you just want to test a ramdisk or kernel, you don't need to flash it |
| 21:53:55 | Tangent | What protocol to transfer? xmodem? zmodem? |
| 21:53:59 | Russ|werk | uuencode |
| 21:54:05 | Russ|werk | <Russ|werk> uuencode zImage zImage > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 21:54:59 | Tangent | Bah.. I'll have to switch to linux now |
| 21:55:35 | Russ|werk | so sad.... |
| 21:55:58 | Russ|werk | then you can setup a cross compiler and all kinds of fun stuff though |
| 21:56:00 | Tangent | Nod... cut & paste gets harder now |
| 21:56:21 | Russ|werk | no, easier |
| 21:56:23 | Tangent | Russ|werk I'll just native compile on my iPAQ :) |
| 21:56:32 | Russ|werk | now its just highlight and paste |
| 21:56:35 | Tangent | IRC client is on Windows box though |
| 21:57:01 | mallum | Tangent: run an X server on your windows box |
| 21:57:13 | Tangent | mallum : I run vmware on it |
| 21:57:28 | mallum | Tangent: you should be able to cut and paste from that non ? |
| 21:57:54 | mallum | has only run windoze in vmware |
| 21:57:57 | Russ|werk | poor poor Tangent |
| 21:57:58 | Tangent | mallum : Yeah.. I can do that to if I run the vmware-toolbox |
| 21:58:28 | mallum | Tangent: you must relieve yourself of your shackles |
| 21:58:35 | mallum | s/relieve/free/ |
| 21:58:52 | Tangent | mallum : I have linux on my laptop too, but I haven't unpacked that from work yet.. it's still in it's bag |
| 21:59:02 | mallum | Tangent: are you still using lookout ? |
| 21:59:29 | mallum | Tangent: they put me on that at this new job on a shitty NT box with a 15" screen |
| 21:59:48 | Tangent | mallum : What's lookout? |
| 21:59:48 | mallum | Tangent: the network theres is slow slow 2500 people through a 1mbit line |
| 21:59:55 | mallum | outlook |
| 22:00:01 | mallum | get it |
| 22:00:07 | mallum | ? |
| 22:00:10 | jacques_work | lookout!!! |
| 22:00:12 | jacques_work | heh |
| 22:00:14 | Tangent | mallum : On my laptop, I have no mail client... just remote access to my other boxes :) |
| 22:00:29 | Tangent | mallum : The box I'm typing on right now has lookout on it |
| 22:00:29 | Russ|werk | the magic 8-ball is smart "outlook not so good" |
| 22:00:30 | mallum | Tangent: Im only winding you up ;) |
| 22:01:12 | mallum | they said to me at work - 'dont worry somebody will be round soon to set you up with outlook and exchange' |
| 22:01:19 | Tangent | mallum : No.. that's fine.. I know I'm evil Windows loving scumball... (without the love tho') |
| 22:01:41 | Tangent | Linux = Fun... Windows = Work |
| 22:01:42 | jacques_work | evil windoze usin' scumball |
| 22:01:51 | Tangent | :D |
| 22:02:08 | jacques_work | :-D |
| 22:03:57 | Tangent | Damn.. debian box doesn't have uuencode ... sigh |
| 22:04:28 | mallum | apt-get......... |
| 22:04:50 | Tangent | Package uuencode has no available version, but exists in the database. |
| 22:05:01 | Tangent | Already tried that :) |
| 22:05:06 | mallum | apt-get update |
| 22:05:18 | mallum | then try |
| 22:05:44 | Russ|werk | sharutils |
| 22:05:45 | Russ|werk | : /usr/bin/uuencode |
| 22:06:23 | Russ|werk | timmy:~$ apt-cache search uuencode |
| 22:06:25 | Russ|werk | ... |
| 22:06:30 | Russ|werk | sharutils - shar, unshar, uuencode, uudecode |
| 22:07:38 | Tangent | Russ|werk : Thanks |
| 22:07:40 | Russ|werk | linux = work here |
| 22:08:05 | Tangent | Russ = Lucky |
| 22:08:19 | mallum | has to ask soon at work if he's 'allowed' to remove NT |
| 22:08:49 | mallum | Russ|werk: are you Nelson too ? |
| 22:09:02 | Russ|werk | strange question |
| 22:09:08 | Tangent | isn't allowed W2K or Linux on any work machines... but I work entirely on my own equipment, so screw that ;) |
| 22:10:30 | mallum | Russ|werk: sorry. judging by the wiki you are RussDill, not Russ Nelson |
| 22:10:39 | mallum | its late |
| 22:10:54 | Russ|werk | was wondering what you meant by "Nelson" |
| 22:11:33 | mallum | Russ|werk: did you think it was some kind of crazy english slang, like the type I like to confuse nikos with on occasion |
| 22:17:45 | Russ|werk | it wasn't asked like, is you name |
| 22:19:54 | Tangent | This kernel transfer business is painful.. no progress indicators.. nothing to show it hasn't crashed |
| 22:23:56 | Tangent | Well.. done |
| 22:24:06 | Tangent | Now I need some kind of filesystem to go on |
| 22:25:12 | Tangent | Calibrating delay loop... 39.21 BogoMIPS |
| 22:25:20 | Tangent | We're not running fast are we :) |
| 22:25:25 | Russ|werk | you don't have the little dots? |
| 22:25:53 | Tangent | Russ|werk : No.. no dots... |
| 22:26:04 | Russ|werk | thenn....you didn't follow the instructions |
| 22:26:18 | Russ|werk | <Russ|werk> in a diffrenet window, with minicom still running |
| 22:26:18 | Russ|werk | <Russ|werk> uuencode zImage zImage > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 22:26:21 | Tangent | Russ : No.. not quite... the instructions were't working for me |
| 22:26:30 | Russ|werk | which part? |
| 22:26:37 | Tangent | Ah.. I was killing minicom |
| 22:27:07 | Russ|werk | Tangent: get the nico jffs2 image |
| 22:27:18 | Russ|werk | it has a few problems, but will give you a prompt |
| 22:27:22 | Tangent | Russ : I did 'download kernel' killed minicom, did stty -F /dev/tts/0 speed 115200, and then uuencode > /dev/tts/0 |
| 22:27:26 | Tangent | Russ|werk : URL? |
| 22:27:35 | Russ|werk | ummm.... |
| 22:27:50 | Russ|werk | I always follow links on www.arm.linux.org.uk |
| 22:28:18 | Tangent | Russ|werk : Yes.. but which links? |
| 22:29:08 | Russ|werk | developer, machine registry, -np |
| 22:30:11 | Russ|werk | I'll probably put together a glibc and a uClibc jffs2 image |
| 22:30:32 | Russ|werk | with sysvinit, busybox, tinylogin, and some mtd tools |
| 22:30:38 | Tangent | Russ|werk : sample_img-0.1.jffs2 ? |
| 22:30:43 | Russ|werk | yah |
| 22:31:03 | Russ|werk | just flash that like it was a ramdisk....you'll need to compile a kernel with jffs2 |
| 22:31:20 | Russ|werk | unless the one BZFlag compiled supports it |
| 22:32:34 | Russ|werk | and has init=/dev/mtdblock2 |
| 22:32:37 | Russ|werk | er= |
| 22:32:44 | Russ|werk | root=/dev/mtdblock2 |
| 22:34:14 | mallum | goes to bed |
| 22:34:40 | Tangent | Nod |
| 22:36:50 | Tangent | uuencode deosn't seem able to process the sample_img-01.jffs2 file |
| 22:37:08 | Tangent | It just stops after dumping out the first line |
| 22:40:32 | BZFlag | Tangent: uuencode sample_img-01.jffs rootfs > /dev/ttyS0 ? |
| 22:40:55 | Russ|werk | ls -l sample_img-01.jffs2 |
| 22:41:47 | BZFlag | ok: uuencode sample_img-01.jffs2 foo > /dev/ttyS0 |
| 22:49:54 | BZFlag | Tangent: nice wiki page. ;-) |
| 22:58:39 | Tangent | Russ|werk : Yeah.. that works thanks... |
| 22:58:49 | Tangent | BZFlag : I'll add more to it as I get this installed |
| 23:05:44 | Russ|werk | btw, the getty on that image is set to 38400 |
| 23:06:00 | Tangent | Russ : OK.. thanks |
| 23:14:24 | Tangent | Hmm... I'm not convinced that this kernel has jffs2 support present |
| 23:19:12 | Russ|werk | It probably does'nt |
| 23:19:19 | Russ|werk | er, doesn't |
| 23:22:32 | Tangent | I take it that we're still a long way from framebuffer support? |
| 23:27:00 | Tangent | goes to bed.. night all |