| 01:23:32 | nelson | Sigh. Here's the old "open source / closed source" problem again. |
| 01:24:06 | nelson | I'd like to be able to take a phone number in the "New Calls" listing, and enter it into the directory. |
| 01:24:43 | nelson | But there's no way to do that! So I'll have to figure out how to boot Linux, how to talk to the dsp, and how to write my own frigging telephone control application. |
| 02:09:41 | bworth | cworth: are you there? |
| 03:32:03 | nelson | msg bbrox send me email. |
| 03:32:25 | | nelson: excuse me? |
| 03:32:25 | nelson | ibot: msg bbrox send me email. |
| 03:32:31 | | ...but ibot is dead... |
| 03:32:31 | nelson | ibot: you are so stupid. |
| 03:32:42 | | nelson: I forgot ibot |
| 03:32:42 | nelson | ibot: forget ibot |
| 03:32:49 | | OK, nelson. |
| 03:32:49 | nelson | ibot: you are so stupid. |
| 06:30:07 | vh | ouch |
| 06:30:50 | BZFlag | ouch? |
| 06:50:55 | vh | hit my knee on the table. |
| 06:51:08 | vh | btw, the phone doesnt work in .fi :) |
| 06:52:17 | vh | it seems like it's trying to call with pulse whatever the mode was (pulse, or tone). If it's connected to a phone line, it blinks the red light all the time :) It can receive calls (it rings, didnt try to answer, though), but it cant call.. |
| 06:52:38 | vh | called id doesnt work either |
| 06:53:22 | vh | by the way, I was a little disappointed with the screen, but what the heck, still usable.. |
| 06:54:32 | vh | You can see the refresh lines... a bit annoying, a bad TV like.. |
| 07:01:32 | vh | line voltage differs I think. |
| 14:47:21 | nikos | is away: Errands |
| 16:17:17 | nikos | is back |
| 16:37:07 | boodle | BZFlag: Hello, I'd like to purchase a tuxscreen please :) |
| 16:37:54 | nikos | boodle: See the wiki. |
| 16:37:59 | BZFlag | boodle: see the TimRiker page in the wiki. |
| 16:38:05 | nikos | Yeah, that one. ;) |
| 16:38:06 | boodle | Ok, thanks |
| 16:38:21 | | why not take a look at http://TuxScreen.net/ and also see http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view//TimRiker and http://tuxscreen.net/scrapbook/images.html or #TuxScreen |
| 16:38:21 | boodle | ibot: tuxscreen |
| 16:49:54 | BZFlag | cworth: did you get that io board yet? It was mailed yesterday, so perhaps tomorrow. |
| 16:54:17 | boodle | One final query, are the jtags available yet ? |
| 16:54:21 | boodle | (and cables :) |
| 17:01:14 | BZFlag | still don't have any dongles, but I put pinout info on the cable up on the wiki. |
| 17:01:29 | BZFlag | dongles that are used for the lart project would be fine. |
| 17:01:46 | BZFlag | I think I have a flash install procedure that does not use jtag ready. |
| 17:01:52 | BZFlag | I have a bit more testing to do. |
| 17:02:03 | boodle | BZFlag: Excellent! |
| 17:04:49 | nelson | BZFlag: kewl. How? |
| 17:05:06 | nelson | And what are you reflashing it with? BLOB or CRL? |
| 17:05:28 | BZFlag | blob still at this point. |
| 17:05:52 | BZFlag | as crl does not want to GPL, all the GPLed additions I have will likely go into blob instead. |
| 17:06:02 | BZFlag | Should have netboot in there very soon. |
| 17:06:21 | BZFlag | tftp off CF ethernet and then nfsroot. |
| 17:06:43 | BZFlag | will also be adding boot from CF flash support. |
| 17:06:48 | boodle | BZFlag: cool! |
| 17:07:24 | BZFlag | I tried to convince jamey to GPL the crl one, but they were not interested. I could recode all this mess just to non-gpl it but that makes very little sense to me. |
| 17:07:44 | nelson | jg is GPL-hostile. |
| 17:08:02 | BZFlag | I think I'll add the crl params and partitioning into blob and then the crl loader can just die off. |
| 17:08:43 | nelson | crl loader isn't so very wonderful. |
| 17:09:00 | BZFlag | he didn't mind if I released a GPLed version, but he would not take any GPLed patches. |
| 17:09:31 | BZFlag | yeah. Erik is eager to get blob patches so that seems the way to go. |
| 17:10:07 | BZFlag | I have netboot integrated into blob on another sa1110 board with CF ether support. |
| 17:10:25 | BZFlag | seems to work pretty well. now I just have to port that version to tuxscreen. |
| 17:10:29 | nelson | NE2K? |
| 17:10:32 | BZFlag | yeah. |
| 17:10:40 | nelson | pretty much the standard for CF. |
| 17:10:42 | BZFlag | 3v ne2k |
| 17:11:01 | nelson | Ahhhhh. So I need a PCMCIA -> CF converter. |
| 17:11:06 | mallum | BZFlag: do you know if cworths 64meg problem is fixable ? |
| 17:11:31 | nelson | mallum: cworth is hoping that it's an OS thing, not a hardware thing. |
| 17:11:35 | BZFlag | not yet. |
| 17:11:42 | mallum | thats what Im hoping too ;) |
| 17:11:44 | BZFlag | it's possible either way. |
| 17:12:04 | BZFlag | I put tjag info up on the wiki so cworth could get that setup and try blob out. |
| 17:13:52 | BZFlag | nelson: should work on a 5v ne2k once the 5v pcmcia hack is released by lucent. till then 3v is all that works. |
| 17:14:24 | nelson | Any news on that front? |
| 17:15:04 | BZFlag | I have some Inferno software updates to release now, but still no 5v hack or voip. |
| 17:15:49 | BZFlag | I'm trying to get shaggy to reverse engineer the hacked phone that he has and mail me the info. we'll see. |
| 17:50:01 | nelson | BZFlag: Ahhhhh, so he's got a 5V phone? Shouldn't be all that tough to reverse-engineer. Just look for extra and/or cut wires/traces. |
| 17:50:24 | BZFlag | yep. I'd do it if I could get one here. |
| 17:50:52 | BZFlag | I hear the mod does not involve much in parts, just the work. |
| 17:51:14 | BZFlag | don't know if you loose 3v support either. |
| 17:51:31 | BZFlag | I guess I'd be ok with one 3v and one 5v slot. ;-) |
| 18:26:09 | vh | nice |
| 18:44:37 | BZFlag | boodle: your TuxScreen is on the way to the post office right now. ;-) |
| 18:44:48 | boodle | BZFlag: Thank you! |
| 18:45:46 | | cworth was last seen on #handhelds.org 4 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: dneuer: ping a7r on usage, (I never really run that script anymore). [Tue Jun 19 15:30:05 2001] |
| 18:45:46 | BZFlag | ibot: seen cworth |
| 19:04:20 | cworth | re |
| 19:05:08 | cworth | BZFlag: no IO board yet, (could be on the receptionist's desk though... they're slow sometimes). Thanks for the JTAG details. |
| 19:23:05 | BZFlag | you bet. mailed monday, so it might be tomorrow. it was like $3.25 shipping of some such, so when you get a chance, could you drop the old non-working one in and mail it back? |
| 19:23:32 | cworth | BZFlag: sure. no problem at all. |
| 19:24:31 | boodle | is away: java, no!...NET, no way!... coffee! |
| 19:39:30 | nikos | BZFlag: Russ's patch is not specific to any bootloader and is designed to be more generalized and pluggable. |
| 19:46:19 | nikos | BZFlag: Would it be too much trouble to hack ibot so that he outputs Tangents ipaq USB poem in a proper format? ;) |
| 19:47:29 | nikos | The iPAQ doesn't meet the specs for hosting USB, |
| 19:47:29 | nikos | It cannot be a master as it lacks 5Volts VCC. |
| 19:47:29 | nikos | Devices must be powered to live upon the bus, |
| 19:47:29 | nikos | But the iPAQ cannot do it, so the power'd be up to us. |
| 19:47:31 | nikos | So, say we make a cable, that gives a little juice, |
| 19:47:32 | nikos | If the iPAQ can't act as a hub, it's really not much use. |
| 19:47:32 | nikos | A hub must be able to do speeds, both fast and slow, |
| 19:47:34 | nikos | If the iPAQ's fast only, then it's a no-go. |
| 19:47:36 | nikos | I'm not an expert, but I happen to know, |
| 19:47:38 | nikos | That the sa1110 has an exapnsion route to follow, |
| 19:47:40 | nikos | There's an sa1111 companion chip, |
| 19:47:42 | nikos | It's a USB controller if you flip the right bit. |
| 19:47:44 | nikos | Now, Intel are smart, and they wouldn't make, |
| 19:47:46 | nikos | another whole chipset if the 1110 could fake |
| 19:47:48 | nikos | the USB host hardware that you would need |
| 19:47:50 | nikos | to control client hardware, at fast and slow speed. |
| 19:47:54 | nikos | lack of blank lines is a bitch though. |
| 20:38:02 | BZFlag | nikos: could be hacked, but it would have to handle non-spam tyep replyies as well. |
| 20:38:18 | BZFlag | probably not worth it. put it on a wiki page and point there. |
| 20:38:27 | nikos | Yeah. |
| 20:38:33 | nikos | It's at that URL for usb master. |
| 21:00:17 | boodle | is back (gone 01:35:46) |