irclog2html for tuxscreen on 2001.06.13

irclog2html for tuxscreen on 2001.06.13

00:52:03 BZFlag was last seen on #intimate 3 hours, 30 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Tue Jun 12 22:21:07 2001]
00:52:03 cworth ibot: seen BZFlag?
04:31:33 vh was last seen on #handhelds.org 14 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: nikos, well, 2.14.5 used here. [Tue Jun 12 15:22:23 2001]
04:31:33 finalfantasydog seen vh
06:06:12 finalfantasydog: i don't know
06:06:12 finalfantasydog ibot: jim gettys?
12:32:41 nikos: sorry...
12:32:41 nikos ibot: host 205.229.224.252
12:32:47 nikos ibot: nslookup 205.229.224.252
12:32:48 I can't seem to find that address in DNS
12:32:52 nikos Hmmmmm.
12:53:52 nikos ibot: nslookup 205.229.224.252
12:53:52 205.229.224.252 is linux.ineffable.com
12:54:09 nikos Hmm.  Interesting drop out.
15:20:11 cworth BZFlag: good morning Tim.
15:28:44 BZFlag morning. how goes the hw investigation?
15:30:34 BZFlag cworth: on boot: esc, ctrl-d, 2 <- gets you out of sw download mode.
15:31:07 cworth My boss says that his phone definitely works. We'll try swapping boards tomorrow.
15:32:00 cworth BZFlag: ah, thank you.
15:34:16 BZFlag you bet. ;-)
15:34:41 BZFlag did you get the nifty mesg light to flash?
15:35:15 BZFlag go to msg center, type or draw new note, then hit post.
15:35:27 BZFlag ohh, ahh, blinking light. ;-)
15:36:42 cworth BZFlag: cool. My light is always solid red if there is power. :(
15:37:12 BZFlag sounds more and more like a dead io board to me.
15:39:18 cworth BZFlag: yeah, I agree.
15:39:41 cworth BZFlag: just called my wife and the ESC, CTRL-D, 2 thing did the trick. Thanks.
15:40:24 cworth BZFlag: BTW, have you ever seen this? Twice now my machine has booted to a blinking red screen with this message: "There is a problem with your Phillips IS2630 screen phone that could not be corrected. Please call hotline for additional help. (See Owners Manual)"
15:40:47 cworth BZFlag: a hard reset seems to have cleared it each time.
15:54:51 BZFlag I have seen that a few times if the state in flash is not what is expected. as with you a reboot fixed it.
15:55:48 BZFlag vh: fax ok? send me a fax number.
15:56:47 cworth OK, just making sure that wasn't unique to my phone -- which has other unique problems. ;-)
16:05:51 BZFlag I've been working on getting my pc running the DLed Inferno to talk to the phone. That should get us a flash procedure that does not need jtag.
16:05:52 BZFlag still needs the 12v power in order to overwrite the bootloader.
16:05:52 BZFlag heads off to get ready for work.
16:06:30 cworth BZFlag: cool. This would be slick.
16:07:06 cworth BZFlag: coming up with 12V is easier than JTAG. I mean, everybody has access to a car battery, right? ;-)
16:37:29 BZFlag cworth: yeah, that's what I need. everyone hooking up car batteries to the phones. ;-)
16:37:56 cworth BZFlag: heehee... :)
16:39:10 BZFlag ok, so carl is cworth, but bryan is worthb. you guys need a standard. ;-)
16:39:25 cworth BZFlag: heh. :)
16:41:30 worthb I've been worthb for alot longer, so carl will have to change :)
16:42:03 BZFlag that's what I told my brother. I'm timr, but he's ariker. ;-)
16:42:41 worthb maybe somebody needs to submit an RFC for SNF (sibling naming format)
16:42:56 BZFlag rotfl
16:45:33 worthb just watch out for MSNF (microsoft sibling name format) you can be timr for now but next year you are forced to "upgrade" to rikert
16:46:15 worthb i guess you have plenty of units available for the time being?
16:55:26 nelson BZFlag: what do you mean "DLed Inferno"?
16:58:53 nikos I think he means from vitanuova
17:00:43 nikos Running inferno over the top of your current OS.
17:01:46 nelson Oh, oh, I see, on his desktop, right.
17:01:55 nikos I thinks that's what he means, yes.
17:08:52 BZFlag yes. still over 1000 phones here. yes, DLed inferno from vitanuova running on my desktop. well actually on my windows partition as the Linux version will not run for me ;-(
17:09:33 nikos Very sad.
18:14:33 nikos: sorry...
18:14:33 nikos ibot: google handhelds
18:14:42 google is a seach engine
18:14:42 nikos ibot: google
18:14:58 nikos That not work anymore?
18:47:58 vh hey.
18:57:15 BZFlag ibot: search google for handhelds
18:57:21 BZFlag: Google says handhelds is http://www.handhelds.org/ or http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/handhelds or http://www.zdnet.com/products/filter/guide/0,7267,1500114,00.html
18:57:38 BZFlag ibot: search google for nikos
18:57:44 BZFlag: Google says nikos is http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/personal.html or http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/tex2html/doc/latex2html/latex2html.html or http://www.nikos.com/
18:58:06 nikosAWAY is back
18:58:59 nikos Thanks BZFlag
18:59:20 nikos Damn, thay grabbed nikos.com out from under me. ;)
19:00:00 BZFlag updates ibot's help file yet again... ;-)
19:00:39 vh ibot: search google for extraterrestial life on mars OR life 
19:00:45 vh: Google says extraterrestial life on mars OR life is http://www.biospherics.com/Mars/ or http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/uu000.htm or http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/uu320.htm
19:00:52 nikos google seriously needs boolean.
19:01:02 nikos I slip back to hotbot sometimes just for that.
19:03:16 vh bzflag, around?
19:04:08 vh nikos, out from you?:)
19:04:14 vh    Record created on 27-Nov-1995.
19:04:34 nikos vh: Heh?
19:04:57 vh nikos, yeah, joke for sure.
19:05:11 nikos didn't get it.
19:05:28 vh <nikos> Damn, thay grabbed nikos.com out from under me. ;)
19:05:35 nikos Eh, OK. ;)
19:06:50 nikos can be found at http://www.imdb.com/M/title-substring?title=nikos&type=fuzzy
19:06:50 BZFlag ibot: search imdb for nikos
19:07:00 BZFlag now that one is lame.
19:07:21 nikos ibot: search hotbot for ogg vorbis and stream
19:08:12 nikos *silence*
19:09:10 I haven't seen 'bzflage', finalfantasydog
19:09:10 finalfantasydog seen bzflage
19:09:12 bzflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: now that one is lame. [Wed Jun 13 20:07:00 2001]
19:09:12 finalfantasydog seen bzflag
19:10:30 BZFlag now that one?
19:10:36 BZFlag that one?
19:12:07 vh did cworth get his memory chips to work?
19:12:46 cworth vh: no word yet.
19:12:48 vh what about the flash problems, bad software, bad hardware? badly programmed flash?
19:13:58 cworth vh: me? flash problems? I'm having phone problems and the current guess is a bad IO board. I'll be swapping boards with a device with a know working phone tomorrow.
19:14:19 finalfantasydog c/lear
19:14:30 cworth vh: I'll try to keep an up-to-date journal on the wiki for this stuff.
19:14:43 vh ok.
19:35:26 BZFlag vh: what flash problems?
19:56:00 vh bzflag, nothing. hmm, the mobile cant receive faxes without a computer, and i didnt have receive fax s/w on.. but I diverted new calls to a fax number which should work.
19:56:27 vh bzflag, so if you could try once more..
20:02:53 BZFlag vh: I emailed you a scanned like image. can you print that one?
20:03:23 BZFlag vh: cool.
20:27:29 nikos ibot: search google for Garmin
20:27:34 nikos: Google says Garmin is http://www.garmin.com/ or http://www.garmin.com/support/download.html or http://www.garmin.de/
20:27:48 :)
20:27:48 nikos ibot: good job, have a botsnack
20:46:33 BZFlag ibot: search google for tim riker
20:46:38 BZFlag: Google says tim riker is http://rikers.org/ or http://rikers.org/bookmarks.html or http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Tim_Riker__TimR_CalderaSystems.com_.html
22:12:01 cworth Brian tells me the 64MB SODIMMs just arrived. We'll try these tomorrow.

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`00:52:03`		`BZFlag was last seen on #intimate 3 hours, 30 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Tue Jun 12 22:21:07 2001]`
`00:52:03`	`cworth`	`ibot: seen BZFlag?`
`04:31:33`		`vh was last seen on #handhelds.org 14 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: nikos, well, 2.14.5 used here. [Tue Jun 12 15:22:23 2001]`
`04:31:33`	`finalfantasydog`	`seen vh`
`06:06:12`		`finalfantasydog: i don't know`
`06:06:12`	`finalfantasydog`	`ibot: jim gettys?`
`12:32:41`		`nikos: sorry...`
`12:32:41`	`nikos`	`ibot: host 205.229.224.252`
`12:32:47`	`nikos`	`ibot: nslookup 205.229.224.252`
`12:32:48`		`I can't seem to find that address in DNS`
`12:32:52`	`nikos`	`Hmmmmm.`
`12:53:52`	`nikos`	`ibot: nslookup 205.229.224.252`
`12:53:52`		`205.229.224.252 is linux.ineffable.com`
`12:54:09`	`nikos`	`Hmm. Interesting drop out.`
`15:20:11`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: good morning Tim.`
`15:28:44`	`BZFlag`	`morning. how goes the hw investigation?`
`15:30:34`	`BZFlag`	`cworth: on boot: esc, ctrl-d, 2 <- gets you out of sw download mode.`
`15:31:07`	`cworth`	`My boss says that his phone definitely works. We'll try swapping boards tomorrow.`
`15:32:00`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: ah, thank you.`
`15:34:16`	`BZFlag`	`you bet. ;-)`
`15:34:41`	`BZFlag`	`did you get the nifty mesg light to flash?`
`15:35:15`	`BZFlag`	`go to msg center, type or draw new note, then hit post.`
`15:35:27`	`BZFlag`	`ohh, ahh, blinking light. ;-)`
`15:36:42`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: cool. My light is always solid red if there is power. :(`
`15:37:12`	`BZFlag`	`sounds more and more like a dead io board to me.`
`15:39:18`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: yeah, I agree.`
`15:39:41`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: just called my wife and the ESC, CTRL-D, 2 thing did the trick. Thanks.`
`15:40:24`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: BTW, have you ever seen this? Twice now my machine has booted to a blinking red screen with this message: "There is a problem with your Phillips IS2630 screen phone that could not be corrected. Please call hotline for additional help. (See Owners Manual)"`
`15:40:47`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: a hard reset seems to have cleared it each time.`
`15:54:51`	`BZFlag`	`I have seen that a few times if the state in flash is not what is expected. as with you a reboot fixed it.`
`15:55:48`	`BZFlag`	`vh: fax ok? send me a fax number.`
`15:56:47`	`cworth`	`OK, just making sure that wasn't unique to my phone -- which has other unique problems. ;-)`
`16:05:51`	`BZFlag`	`I've been working on getting my pc running the DLed Inferno to talk to the phone. That should get us a flash procedure that does not need jtag.`
`16:05:52`	`BZFlag`	`still needs the 12v power in order to overwrite the bootloader.`
`16:05:52`	`BZFlag`	`heads off to get ready for work.`
`16:06:30`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: cool. This would be slick.`
`16:07:06`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: coming up with 12V is easier than JTAG. I mean, everybody has access to a car battery, right? ;-)`
`16:37:29`	`BZFlag`	`cworth: yeah, that's what I need. everyone hooking up car batteries to the phones. ;-)`
`16:37:56`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: heehee... :)`
`16:39:10`	`BZFlag`	`ok, so carl is cworth, but bryan is worthb. you guys need a standard. ;-)`
`16:39:25`	`cworth`	`BZFlag: heh. :)`
`16:41:30`	`worthb`	`I've been worthb for alot longer, so carl will have to change :)`
`16:42:03`	`BZFlag`	`that's what I told my brother. I'm timr, but he's ariker. ;-)`
`16:42:41`	`worthb`	`maybe somebody needs to submit an RFC for SNF (sibling naming format)`
`16:42:56`	`BZFlag`	`rotfl`
`16:45:33`	`worthb`	`just watch out for MSNF (microsoft sibling name format) you can be timr for now but next year you are forced to "upgrade" to rikert`
`16:46:15`	`worthb`	`i guess you have plenty of units available for the time being?`
`16:55:26`	`nelson`	`BZFlag: what do you mean "DLed Inferno"?`
`16:58:53`	`nikos`	`I think he means from vitanuova`
`17:00:43`	`nikos`	`Running inferno over the top of your current OS.`
`17:01:46`	`nelson`	`Oh, oh, I see, on his desktop, right.`
`17:01:55`	`nikos`	`I thinks that's what he means, yes.`
`17:08:52`	`BZFlag`	`yes. still over 1000 phones here. yes, DLed inferno from vitanuova running on my desktop. well actually on my windows partition as the Linux version will not run for me ;-(`
`17:09:33`	`nikos`	`Very sad.`
`18:14:33`		`nikos: sorry...`
`18:14:33`	`nikos`	`ibot: google handhelds`
`18:14:42`		`google is a seach engine`
`18:14:42`	`nikos`	`ibot: google`
`18:14:58`	`nikos`	`That not work anymore?`
`18:47:58`	`vh`	`hey.`
`18:57:15`	`BZFlag`	`ibot: search google for handhelds`
`18:57:21`		`BZFlag: Google says handhelds is http://www.handhelds.org/ or http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/handhelds or http://www.zdnet.com/products/filter/guide/0,7267,1500114,00.html`
`18:57:38`	`BZFlag`	`ibot: search google for nikos`
`18:57:44`		`BZFlag: Google says nikos is http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/personal.html or http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/tex2html/doc/latex2html/latex2html.html or http://www.nikos.com/`
`18:58:06`	`nikosAWAY`	`is back`
`18:58:59`	`nikos`	`Thanks BZFlag`
`18:59:20`	`nikos`	`Damn, thay grabbed nikos.com out from under me. ;)`
`19:00:00`	`BZFlag`	`updates ibot's help file yet again... ;-)`
`19:00:39`	`vh`	`ibot: search google for extraterrestial life on mars OR life`
`19:00:45`		`vh: Google says extraterrestial life on mars OR life is http://www.biospherics.com/Mars/ or http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/uu000.htm or http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/uu320.htm`
`19:00:52`	`nikos`	`google seriously needs boolean.`
`19:01:02`	`nikos`	`I slip back to hotbot sometimes just for that.`
`19:03:16`	`vh`	`bzflag, around?`
`19:04:08`	`vh`	`nikos, out from you?:)`
`19:04:14`	`vh`	`Record created on 27-Nov-1995.`
`19:04:34`	`nikos`	`vh: Heh?`
`19:04:57`	`vh`	`nikos, yeah, joke for sure.`
`19:05:11`	`nikos`	`didn't get it.`
`19:05:28`	`vh`	`<nikos> Damn, thay grabbed nikos.com out from under me. ;)`
`19:05:35`	`nikos`	`Eh, OK. ;)`
`19:06:50`		`nikos can be found at http://www.imdb.com/M/title-substring?title=nikos&type=fuzzy`
`19:06:50`	`BZFlag`	`ibot: search imdb for nikos`
`19:07:00`	`BZFlag`	`now that one is lame.`
`19:07:21`	`nikos`	`ibot: search hotbot for ogg vorbis and stream`
`19:08:12`	`nikos`	`silence`
`19:09:10`		`I haven't seen 'bzflage', finalfantasydog`
`19:09:10`	`finalfantasydog`	`seen bzflage`
`19:09:12`		`bzflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: now that one is lame. [Wed Jun 13 20:07:00 2001]`
`19:09:12`	`finalfantasydog`	`seen bzflag`
`19:10:30`	`BZFlag`	`now that one?`
`19:10:36`	`BZFlag`	`that one?`
`19:12:07`	`vh`	`did cworth get his memory chips to work?`
`19:12:46`	`cworth`	`vh: no word yet.`
`19:12:48`	`vh`	`what about the flash problems, bad software, bad hardware? badly programmed flash?`
`19:13:58`	`cworth`	`vh: me? flash problems? I'm having phone problems and the current guess is a bad IO board. I'll be swapping boards with a device with a know working phone tomorrow.`
`19:14:19`	`finalfantasydog`	`c/lear`
`19:14:30`	`cworth`	`vh: I'll try to keep an up-to-date journal on the wiki for this stuff.`
`19:14:43`	`vh`	`ok.`
`19:35:26`	`BZFlag`	`vh: what flash problems?`
`19:56:00`	`vh`	`bzflag, nothing. hmm, the mobile cant receive faxes without a computer, and i didnt have receive fax s/w on.. but I diverted new calls to a fax number which should work.`
`19:56:27`	`vh`	`bzflag, so if you could try once more..`
`20:02:53`	`BZFlag`	`vh: I emailed you a scanned like image. can you print that one?`
`20:03:23`	`BZFlag`	`vh: cool.`
`20:27:29`	`nikos`	`ibot: search google for Garmin`
`20:27:34`		`nikos: Google says Garmin is http://www.garmin.com/ or http://www.garmin.com/support/download.html or http://www.garmin.de/`
`20:27:48`		`:)`
`20:27:48`	`nikos`	`ibot: good job, have a botsnack`
`20:46:33`	`BZFlag`	`ibot: search google for tim riker`
`20:46:38`		`BZFlag: Google says tim riker is http://rikers.org/ or http://rikers.org/bookmarks.html or http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Tim_Riker__TimR_CalderaSystems.com_.html`
`22:12:01`	`cworth`	`Brian tells me the 64MB SODIMMs just arrived. We'll try these tomorrow.`