| 04:53:19 | | bzflag was last seen on #handhelds.org 5 hours, 15 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: ibot seen anyone? [Mon Jun 11 00:37:34 2001] |
| 04:53:19 | finalfantastydog | seen bzflag |
| 05:05:01 | BZFlag | yo. |
| 05:05:36 | | BZFlag: Communist revolutionaries taking over the server room and demanding all the computers in the building or they shoot the sysadmin. Poor misguided fools. |
| 05:05:36 | BZFlag | ibot excuse |
| 06:00:39 | finalfantastydog | night |
| 16:46:45 | | BZFlag: i'm not following you... |
| 16:46:45 | BZFlag | ibot: welcome back! |
| 16:46:50 | | finalfantasydog was last seen on #intimate 23 hours, 8 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: doesn't seem to [Sun Jun 10 18:38:29 2001] |
| 16:46:50 | BZFlag | ibot: seen finalfantasydog |
| 16:51:47 | cworth | BZFlag: will do. I'll try powering it on tonight and maybe I'll start writing up my experiences. |
| 18:41:08 | | I haven't seen 'ibot', nelson |
| 18:41:08 | nelson | ibot: seen ibot? |
| 18:42:15 | nelson | BZFlag: So what can be done with a tuxscreen out of the box? Anything useful? |
| 18:42:41 | nikos | The phone works at least. ;) |
| 18:42:51 | | I haven't seen 'ibot', nikos |
| 18:42:51 | nikos | ibot: seen ibot? |
| 18:43:20 | nikos | I think it has dialup ppp and some basic inferno clients. |
| 18:44:09 | cworth | nelson: I've already impressed some coworkers by pulling mine out of its box. ;) I'll try something more useful tonight... |
| 18:50:42 | BZFlag | nelson: Inferno is running on the devices. I will be putting up info on that soon. |
| 18:51:10 | BZFlag | It includes a web browser, email, dial directory w/ callerid support, etc. |
| 18:51:36 | BZFlag | It will only do net access over the built in modem. no ethernet or serial support. |
| 19:09:35 | nelson | BZFlag: real modem or winmodem? |
| 19:10:59 | nelson | BZFlag: two pcmcia slots, right? So you could throw Ethernet in one, Sound in another, and make a dandy MP3-playing client. |
| 19:11:14 | nelson | Presuming, of course, that you could get Linux running on it. |
| 19:11:39 | nelson | So then the question becomes: CRL Bootloader, BLOB, or Redboot? |
| 19:16:09 | BZFlag | nelson: lucent dsp that we are still looking for full docs on. |
| 19:16:40 | BZFlag | pcmcia slots are 3v only, and are allegedly missing "reset" |
| 19:17:07 | BZFlag | blob os running now, but I'd like to change to another. |
| 19:17:16 | BZFlag | er. bootloader, but you knew that. |
| 19:20:35 | BZFlag | Crucial says they will take a return on the 64M sodimm if it does not work. who want to try? |
| 19:20:45 | BZFlag | http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp?imodule=CT16M32E8T6 |
| 19:21:53 | nikos | cworth: Be our guinea pig please. ;) |
| 19:21:59 | BZFlag | they also say that they would do around a 5% discount on quantity orders. How many folk do you think would order phones with 40M or 72M if it works? |
| 19:22:16 | nikos | Price difference? |
| 19:23:22 | BZFlag | 64M sodimm $120, 32M $60. add that to the $99 |
| 19:23:56 | BZFlag | wonders if he could then sell the 8M sodimms someplace... |
| 19:25:25 | cworth | nikos: hmmm... this one's not funded by my employer. Although he also bought a couple for personal use. I've passed him the info... :) |
| 19:25:49 | BZFlag | crucial has the 8M for like $30 so if we could get $20 as pulls... |
| 19:25:54 | nikos | cworth: :) |
| 19:26:44 | BZFlag | I've seen the sharp LCD panels listed for $149 each. so $99 for the phone is a bargin. ;-) |
| 19:26:53 | nelson | BZFlag: How much is shipping to New York? |
| 19:27:28 | BZFlag | nelson: usps.gov 15x13x5 @ 9 lbs from 84058 ;-) |
| 19:28:00 | BZFlag | probably like $14 for one w/insurrance and $24 or so for 2. |
| 19:28:28 | nelson | Okay $24 it is then. |
| 19:34:14 | BZFlag | finalfantasydog: still having call waiting grief? ;-) |
| 19:42:14 | finalfantasydog | yes |
| 19:42:17 | finalfantasydog | rather annoying |
| 19:49:30 | nelson | Incoming order! |
| 20:26:06 | BZFlag | sweet |
| 20:27:27 | BZFlag | nelson: got it, ship tomorrow k? |
| 20:29:17 | nelson | BZFlag: sure, I'm in no hurry. Just want to make sure I get my fair share of tuxscreens. :-) |
| 20:35:04 | gjg | nelson is trying to corner the market on tuxscreens. |
| 20:37:07 | jacques | I would definitely order a couple of 70MB if they work |
| 20:38:10 | jacques | otherwise 40MB |
| 20:50:37 | nelson | gjg: yes, slowly, two at a time. |
| 20:51:04 | nelson | jacques: we're SO spoiled. Just a few years ago I was running X with 8MB of memory. |
| 20:56:03 | BZFlag | heh, I still have an NCR xterm with 8M I think. |
| 20:59:28 | jacques | nelson: me too, in 1989 :-) |
| 21:05:56 | BZFlag | so nobody volunteered to buy a 64M sodimm yet, right? |
| 21:07:22 | nelson | ship me my tuxes and I might. :-) |
| 21:15:37 | nelson | Actually, truth be known, I'd like to see X running on it first. Otherwise, why do I need more than 8MB RAM? |
| 21:22:34 | BZFlag | true, true. |
| 22:35:34 | | I haven't seen 'bzflage', finalfantasydog |
| 22:35:34 | finalfantasydog | seen bzflage |
| 22:35:57 | | bzflag was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 13 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: true, true. [Mon Jun 11 22:22:34 2001] |
| 22:35:57 | finalfantasydog | seen bzflag |
| 22:56:47 | BZFlag | bzflage, hmm. ;-) |
| 23:07:03 | jacques | anyone know if they kyboards are irda? |
| 23:07:25 | jacques | what about multiple tuxscreens in the same room - is there a settable code? |
| 23:12:46 | BZFlag | jacques: no settable code. some docs claim irda, but I'm not convinced. There are 3 wired to the infrared pickup on the device so it could be a irda... |
| 23:17:39 | jacques | BZFlag: what are te prospects for supporting the keyboard under linuz then? currently unknown? |
| 23:25:31 | BZFlag | unknown, but my bet it that it is not irda and will just show up as serial input. |
| 23:25:49 | BZFlag | I'd be happy to be proved wrong. ;-) |
| 23:33:02 | jacques | heh, hopefully we'll know before too long |
| 23:33:25 | jacques | why not just look at the inferno source? |
| 23:49:18 | BZFlag | don't have much of it. |
| 23:50:05 | BZFlag | I have the DLed inferno version source, but that does not appear to have the is2630 hardware bits in it and it's a different version anyway |