irclog2html for tuxscreen on 2001.06.06

17:50:43TangentHi ibot
17:50:50:)
17:50:50BZFlagibot: botsnack?
17:50:54Tangent: Quantum dynamics are affecting the transistors
17:50:54Tangentexcuse
17:51:04TangentOK.. ibot is in talkative mode here...
17:51:152
17:51:15BZFlag1+1?
17:51:17TangentBZFlag : You want strict addressing mode?
17:51:21BZFlagnslookup rikers.org
17:51:21rikers.org is 209.140.76.229
17:51:33a valleyism is like.. well.. ya know.. like, like that!
17:51:33boodleibot: what is a valleyism?
17:51:41boodle;)
17:51:41BZFlagTangent: don't care much. whe will shut up if told right?
17:51:59TangentBZFlag : dn't think so
17:52:01nikosNot likely. ;)
17:52:15nikosedwardam regularly gets into long arguments with him.
17:52:31nelsonedwardam regularly loses long arguments with him.
17:52:41nikosHeh
17:52:42Tangentnikos : I was teaching ibot to be cheeky last night ;)
17:52:45You looking for a fight
17:52:45Tangentibot shut up
17:52:53nikosshut up
17:52:56nikosAh good.
17:53:05nikosDoesn't respond to that one with no addressing.
17:53:07No.. you shut up Tangent
17:53:07Tangentibot shut up
17:53:13boodlepokes ibot
17:53:29Tangent50/50 gamble whether ibot will apologise nicely, or get lippy :)
17:54:18BZFlag11 power supply pictures up on http://TuxScreen.net/scrapbook/images.html
17:54:38TangentBZFlag : Cool... Many thanks :)
17:54:42nikosBZFlag: Good stuff!
17:55:18TangentHeh... wrapped up in foam to keep it warm ;)
17:55:22BZFlagponders what do to with the hammered power supply now. ;-)
17:55:35nikosStill works?  Keep it for a backup.
17:56:04BZFlagyep, I'll probably leave it in pieces in case anyone wants more pictures. ;-)
17:57:27vh_bzflag, do you have any jtags?
17:57:40BZFlagvh_: one. the one in the pictures.
17:58:00nikosBZFlag: Not to complain, but labels in some cases would be good. ;)
17:58:20nikosI think BZFlag means the 2 pictures after all of the box pictures.
17:58:26TangentBZFlag : What's the part number of that three legged device on the corner of the board?
17:58:36TangentBZFlag : An IC102?
18:00:26Tangents/An/And
18:00:32BZFlagneeds a mag glass.
18:00:54vh_tangent,  However, Inferno bootloader can boot from a CF?
18:01:12Tangentvh_ : That's a great start :)
18:01:49BZFlagphotron psr10c40ct perhaps?
18:02:05vh_Yeah, where does one need a jtag then :)
18:02:29vh_just reprogram the flash from linux when it's there, if technically possible.
18:02:49Tangentvh_ : Should be possible
18:02:53BZFlagvh_: I have folks that claim it can (sboot) but the rev in the phone is a different version. older we believe.
18:04:17nikosSo the phone comes with Inferno bootloader?
18:04:26nikosInteresting, I was assuming empty flash.
18:04:54vh_it comes with inferno
18:04:55nikosI hope it can boot from PCMCIA too.
18:05:15nikosComplete (basic) inferno system?
18:05:53vh_i'd assume so.
18:05:58nikosHmm, might have to try to port Squeak to inferno...
18:06:11TangentAre those sockets PCMCIA or CF?
18:06:29vh_pcmcia.
18:06:29nikos2 Type II PCMCIA right?
18:06:47nikosis away: errand
18:07:01BZFlagyes, 3.3v rumored to not support reset.
18:07:37BZFlagcomplete inferno image. web browser/email/etc.
18:08:26BZFlagTangent: another image for ya.
18:08:57boodleCan someone please point me to info on Inferno?
18:08:59TangentBZFlag : Thanks :)
18:09:15vh_http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
18:09:23boodlevh_: thank you
18:09:34OK, BZFlag.
18:09:34BZFlagibot: inferno is http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
18:09:34vh_http://cgi.www.vitanuova.com/cgi-bin/www.vitanuova.com/idown.pl (binary & limited source)
18:10:42BZFlagwell. I have to head into the office sometime. get those orders in! (jk)
18:14:28boodlehrm.. freebsd version of inferno.. strange..
18:21:33nikosis back
18:45:43nikosHey gjg
18:46:10vh_bzflag, ping?
18:46:32hi, gjg
18:46:32gjgnikos: howdy
18:46:37gjg: huh?
18:46:37gjgibot: quiet you.
18:46:41You looking for a fight
18:46:41gjgibot: SHUT UP!
18:46:44gjghits ibot
18:47:03nikosTangent: Need some punctuation on that one.
18:47:14BZFlagthinks ibot should emote in reply to emotes. ;-)
18:47:33Tangentnikos : It didn't understand how to reply with a ? (Though I now realise I should have just shelled it out)
18:47:54TangentBZFlag : If you modify the code... I'll execute it ;)
18:53:31gjgfear calendar schemas
18:57:16BZFlagTangent: you should put the bot on a shared user account so I can hack it to. or perhaps a cvs tree so I can be sure my patches are against the latest. ;-)
18:57:43nikosMight as well add him to cvs.handhelds.org
18:57:50TangentBZFlag : I'll give you a login on the box ibot runs on if you like
18:58:10TangentHe's currently an unmodified infobot
18:58:30nikosYou've just been doing config mods?
18:58:36Tangentnod
18:58:57TangentI installed the all the extras for infoot too... weather etc
18:59:06Tangentbut they're all standard bits
18:59:18gjgibot: weather KCAM
19:02:27nikosweather BWG
19:03:13nikosweather KBWG
19:03:30Tangentweather eglc
19:09:34BZFlagI hacked mine so that weather replies could go to the channel.
19:31:55jamey was last seen on #handhelds.org 5 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: speaking of demos, we have one on Tuesday for the Compaq CTO.  We'll show a bunch of stuff on familiar. [Fri Jun  1 12:54:01 2001]
19:31:55BZFlagibot: seen jamey?
19:32:04cworth was last seen on #familiar 3 hours, 31 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: nikos: I don't know. [Wed Jun  6 17:00:12 2001]
19:32:04BZFlagibot: seen cworth?
20:10:54nikosweather KBWG
20:11:30nikosHeh, claims mostly cloudy.  We've got sideways showers and about 100 yards of visibility. ;)
20:13:17gjgThat is mostly cloudy :)
20:16:41hello, jacques_idle
20:16:41jacques_idlehi
20:16:52:)
20:16:52jacques_idleibot: botsnack
20:24:16jacques_idlewhats the latest? any screen shots of tuxscreens running linux yet?   :-)
20:24:55gjgYup
20:25:02gjglinks index.html to /dev/null
20:25:33jacques_idlegjg: hmmm, that's not working for me
20:25:41gjgthats all I got.
20:27:06jacques_idleanyone here brave enough to buy a 64MB SODIMM to see if it works in the tuxscreen?
20:27:46jacques_idleit's got the same specs as the known working 32MB ones
20:27:59gjgI dont think anyone has them yet, BZFlag is hording them.
20:28:19jacques_idleapparently there are some rare ones with 32MB onboard
20:28:37jacques_idledunno if BZFlag has any of those tho
20:29:01jacques_idleyou guys should check out: http://www.eclipse.net/~shaggy/shannon.html
20:29:11gjga hairy girl?
20:29:58nikosInteresting, I thought BZFlag bought up all of the remaining pieces.
20:29:58jacques_idlesigh. just look at it.
20:30:08gjgthats pretty cool.
20:30:15jacques_idlegood info there
20:30:28gjgYeah.
20:32:27jacques_idleI wish I knew which exact revision BZFlag has
20:32:51nikosjacques_idle: Can't tell from screenshots?
20:34:18jacques_idlenikos: not sure
20:35:46jacques_idleI mean firmware revision
20:38:03jacques_idlewhoa, think that capacitor's big enough?
21:11:11BZFlagjacques_idle: I'll start digging into Inferno revs and such soon. hardware first.
21:11:48BZFlagnikos: I bought a companies inventory. There may be other folks around with them in inventory.
21:11:53jacques_idleBZFlag: cool. though I think that information might benefit you in deciding how to install a bootldr
21:12:02nikosBZFlag: Ah I see.
21:12:14BZFlagrumors are that there were 50,000 in a warehouse in Mexico at one point.
21:12:22nikosjacques_idle: BZFlag already has that link on his pages.
21:12:40jacques_idlenikos: yes, ha gave it to me
21:12:44BZFlagand, feel free to add more! ;-)
21:13:36nikosjacques_idle: Ooops, I misunderstood.
23:08:46Tangentgoes to bed... night all
23:28:27BZFlagx en sp hello world
23:28:28BZFlag: hola mundo
23:28:39BZFlagx sp gr hola mundo
23:28:40BZFlag:
23:28:55BZFlagx en gr hello world
23:28:56BZFlag: hallo Welt
23:30:01BZFlagx gr fr hallo Welt
23:30:03BZFlag: hallo monde
23:30:15BZFlagx fr en hallo monde
23:30:16BZFlag: hallo world
23:30:30BZFlagheh

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