| 00:00:31 | CoolMan | hmm |
| 00:00:38 | CoolMan | what kind of input? |
| 00:01:11 | Bombthroat | I have been looking at your hardware specs and would like to make a couple suggestions for a more powerful system. |
| 00:01:23 | CoolMan | the specs on the site? |
| 00:01:29 | Bombthroat | While staying in a respectable price point. |
| 00:01:31 | CoolMoDee | listens in |
| 00:01:36 | CoolMan | 'cause those are ooold |
| 00:01:43 | Bombthroat | Ahh... |
| 00:01:52 | Bombthroat | Where can I get the latest specs? |
| 00:02:14 | CoolMan | not to mention the fact that, the leaders have been talking about a serious re-structuring of the project |
| 00:02:19 | CoolMan | go to the forums |
| 00:02:30 | Bombthroat | k |
| 00:02:30 | CoolMan | there is a progressing thread about the hardware |
| 00:02:41 | Bombthroat | I'll check it out. |
| 00:02:46 | CoolMan | cewl |
| 00:06:26 | Bombthroat | On the forum where it says "Specs down to $234" posted by Tim McGee, are those specs pretty acurate? |
| 00:06:45 | CoolMan | let me put it this way, and don't quote me... |
| 00:06:58 | Bombthroat | I won't quote you. |
| 00:07:31 | CoolMan | <B><I>If</I></B> we use pre-made hardware in the first release, then those specs are a little closer to what we might end up using... |
| 00:08:21 | Bombthroat | Thanks... |
| 00:08:22 | CoolMan | the first release will most likely consist of a building manuel and software |
| 00:08:37 | CoolMan | as that would be much less financial risk |
| 00:08:41 | CoolMan | brb |
| 00:08:56 | Bombthroat | understood |
| 00:23:13 | CoolMan | back |
| 00:23:34 | CoolMan | hey |
| 00:23:38 | CoolMan | wow |
| 00:23:49 | CoolMan | i can use this account without having logged in |
| 00:23:54 | CoolMan | hmmm... |
| 00:25:33 | Bombthroat | The scpec look good except for the GPU. I think you would be better off using upgraded hardware. |
| 00:25:44 | CoolMan | i know what you mean |
| 00:25:55 | CoolMan | but we run into compatability probs |
| 00:26:08 | CoolMan | also, we are still not sure even what brand to go with! |
| 00:26:28 | Bombthroat | The GPU is the heart of a console and XBox is currently using a GeForce2 iteration. I think GeForce3 Ti is a minimum with your upgraded RAM and processor. |
| 00:26:30 | CoolMoDee | for gpu? |
| 00:26:32 | CoolMoDee | GeForce |
| 00:26:45 | Bombthroat | Graphics Processing Unit |
| 00:26:54 | CoolMan | i know what your talking about |
| 00:26:54 | CoolMoDee | NVidia is the way to go |
| 00:26:56 | CoolMoDee | esp with linux |
| 00:27:18 | CoolMan | nvidea won't work with our kernel |
| 00:27:22 | CoolMoDee | why not? |
| 00:27:30 | CoolMan | wrong version |
| 00:27:34 | CoolMoDee | how so? |
| 00:27:38 | CoolMoDee | 2.4.x |
| 00:27:39 | Bombthroat | nVidia has to be the graphics processor provider. ATI is the only other option and their driver support is abysmal |
| 00:27:40 | CoolMan | what do you mean how so? |
| 00:27:50 | CoolMoDee | how does it not work |
| 00:27:56 | CoolMoDee | it works fine with my 2.4.18 kernel |
| 00:28:12 | CoolMan | because you need a stock kernel, and we are using 2.5.X |
| 00:28:30 | CoolMoDee | 'could always talk to nvidia |
| 00:28:37 | CoolMan | hahaha |
| 00:28:43 | CoolMoDee | so people can test it with the next generation of the linux kernel |
| 00:28:52 | Bombthroat | Have you guys contacted nVidia to see if they would offer any assistance? |
| 00:29:05 | CoolMan | i talked with their support group and they told me to return my geforce and get a redeon |
| 00:29:12 | CoolMoDee | LMFAO |
| 00:29:17 | CoolMoDee | i doubt that |
| 00:29:18 | Bombthroat | REALLY? |
| 00:29:21 | CoolMan | i swear |
| 00:29:25 | CoolMoDee | why would they say that? |
| 00:29:26 | CoolMan | it wasn't funny |
| 00:29:28 | Bombthroat | Damn! |
| 00:29:31 | CoolMan | cause i stumped them |
| 00:29:35 | CoolMoDee | LOL |
| 00:29:38 | CoolMoDee | what was your question? |
| 00:29:41 | CoolMan | it JUST WOULDN'T WORK |
| 00:29:46 | CoolMoDee | HAHA |
| 00:29:48 | CoolMan | i asked them how to make it work |
| 00:29:56 | CoolMoDee | lol |
| 00:29:57 | CoolMan | 'cause it didn't work |
| 00:30:07 | CoolMoDee | mine and phrostbytes work fine |
| 00:30:09 | CoolMoDee | bbk |
| 00:30:10 | CoolMoDee | bbl * |
| 00:30:11 | CoolMan | i thought it was kinda funny too |
| 00:30:14 | CoolMoDee | Heretic2 time |
| 00:30:17 | CoolMoDee | or Quake3 |
| 00:30:19 | CoolMoDee | can't decide |
| 00:30:21 | CoolMan | have fun |
| 00:30:25 | CoolMan | doin' hw |
| 00:30:39 | CoolMan | hw in da hood! |
| 00:30:43 | CoolMoDee | i should be too, but i can't get my jdk/jvm working |
| 00:30:50 | CoolMoDee | so i figure, might as well play some games :-D |
| 00:30:52 | CoolMan | under linux? |
| 00:31:04 | CoolMan | jdk under linux? |
| 00:31:16 | CoolMan | doesn't gcc have j in it? |
| 00:34:26 | Bombthroat | welcome back |
| 00:34:38 | CoolMan | sorry |
| 00:34:49 | Bombthroat | no prob |
| 00:34:53 | CoolMan | an experiment took out my chat processes |
| 00:34:57 | CoolMan | lol |
| 00:35:14 | Bombthroat | lol |
| 00:35:29 | CoolMan | have you seen spiderman yet? |
| 00:35:46 | Bombthroat | Were you guys able to get any info from Indrema before they went belly up? |
| 00:35:51 | CoolMan | no way |
| 00:35:54 | CoolMan | they sucked |
| 00:36:09 | CoolMan | (and i don't think they really had anything |
| 00:36:11 | CoolMan | ) |
| 00:37:04 | Bombthroat | Why did they suck? In an info giving kinda way or their project? |
| 00:37:16 | CoolMan | they hyped nothin' |
| 00:37:26 | CoolMan | it was vaporware the whole time |
| 00:37:28 | CoolMan | i'm sure |
| 00:37:43 | Bombthroat | From what I remember of their specs and ideas I was able to gather it seemed like a very sound idea. |
| 00:38:16 | Bombthroat | They had pictures published in various publications. It was funded by VC money so I'm sure they had to have something. |
| 00:38:28 | CoolMan | it might have been a good IDEA, but all they ever produced were CG renders of conceptual designs |
| 00:38:59 | CoolMan | they just figured out they were in over their heads |
| 00:39:34 | Bombthroat | Making a console that won't sink is a MAJOR undertaking. |
| 00:39:50 | CoolMan | thought Indrema did sink... |
| 00:40:08 | Bombthroat | They did, that's what I mean. |
| 00:40:21 | CoolMan | well, we may take the plunge |
| 00:40:31 | CoolMan | but we won't give up without a fight |
| 00:40:41 | Bombthroat | Maybe, but it'll be a hell of a ride. |
| 00:40:47 | CoolMan | (and one way to help is to avoid financial risk...) |
| 00:41:16 | Bombthroat | Is there any monetary force that will drive you under...VC money etc? |
| 00:41:21 | CoolMan | it has <B>allready</B> been a ride!! |
| 00:41:32 | Bombthroat | I'm sure |
| 00:42:16 | CoolMan | right now money would just probably besaved for a future attempt at pre-built boxes (or emergencies) |
| 00:43:03 | Bombthroat | At least Sony is breaking ground with mind share for the public by providing a Linux development kit for their Playstation 2 at a fee. This will at least give the public something to think about in terms of Linux being a viable embedded OS for gaming. |
| 00:43:25 | CoolMan | perhaps |
| 00:43:34 | CoolMan | except it's too hidden from the public |
| 00:43:58 | CoolMan | not to mention its expensive and inflexible |
| 00:44:35 | Bombthroat | This time around it is...but it's there none the less. |
| 00:45:03 | CoolMan | factual |
| 00:45:18 | CoolMan | would like to see linux for gc |
| 00:45:24 | CoolMan | open linux! |
| 00:45:30 | CoolMan | open devplatform! |
| 00:45:46 | Bombthroat | I'd be willing to bet Playstation 3 will use Linux as a marketing tool. They may still have a proprietary system to let developers get closer to the metal but I think it'll be there. |
| 00:45:51 | CoolMan | open game development environment for a widely accepted console!!!!!! |
| 00:45:56 | CoolMan | AHHAHAHAHA!!!!!! |
| 00:46:12 | CoolMan | goes into spasms... |
| 00:46:15 | Bombthroat | That may not be as far away as you think. |
| 00:46:23 | CoolMan | sorry, i'm back now |
| 00:46:40 | CoolMan | i really would love somthing like that |
| 00:47:20 | CoolMan | seriously, that could be a major selling point |
| 00:47:41 | CoolMan | (open dev platform, so amateur game devvers like me have a chance) |
| 00:48:18 | CoolMan | (that is made by a big company like nintendo or sony, so it is widely accepted) |
| 00:48:22 | Bombthroat | Considering how much hype IBM is putting into Linux on the server level it would only be in Sony's best interest to get on the bandwagon (marketing wise) and also allow such flexibility to their new system. |
| 00:48:53 | Bombthroat | Supposedly with the Playstation 2 dev kit you can make a game royalty free as long as your game is open source (something like that). |
| 00:49:03 | CoolMan | open source has allways made more sense |
| 00:49:22 | CoolMan | but you need linux to run it... |
| 00:49:50 | CoolMan | and i don't believe there is HW 3D GFX in the linux os |
| 00:49:57 | CoolMan | (for the ps2) |
| 00:50:38 | CoolMan | is not sure, correct me if i'm wrong |
| 00:50:42 | Bombthroat | Sony is going to want to kick Micro$oft in the kahunas big time with Playstation 3 because XBox is putting a big hurt on Playstation 2. GameCube is good but their main games haven't come to fruition. I think Nintendo sould so what Sega did and just become a developer. That's what they're good at. |
| 00:51:03 | CoolMan | i like the gc myself |
| 00:51:16 | CoolMan | i have no experience with the ps2 tho |
| 00:51:29 | CoolMan | but the xbox is a flaming ball of crap |
| 00:51:52 | Bombthroat | I'm not a programmer at all, other than the occasional web site. |
| 00:51:52 | CoolMan | you can tell they drew the GUI before they did anything else |
| 00:51:59 | CoolMan | hey PhrostByte |
| 00:52:07 | PhrostByte | hey CoolMan |
| 00:52:08 | CoolMan | programming is soo nice |
| 00:52:16 | CoolMan | so much gratification |
| 00:52:24 | Bombthroat | I don't have the mind set for it. |
| 00:52:25 | PhrostByte | anybody been able to d/l openoffice? |
| 00:52:37 | PhrostByte | it's like all their mirrors are getting /.'ed |
| 00:52:40 | Bombthroat | Yep, running it right now! It's SWEET! |
| 00:52:49 | CoolMan | to watch your creation go spinning away and do exactly what you ment it to do... |
| 00:53:04 | CoolMan | *shiver |
| 00:53:12 | CoolMan | i had openoffice for awhile |
| 00:53:21 | Bombthroat | I know what you're saying. I'd love to be able to program. |
| 00:53:25 | CoolMan | but was too slow on my sucky setup, so i dropped it |
| 00:53:41 | CoolMan | i had problems with the mindset for a long while |
| 00:53:49 | Bombthroat | I'm running OpenOffice.org 1.0 Athlon 600 256MB RAM etc... |
| 00:53:54 | CoolMan | but it snapped suddenly |
| 00:54:07 | CoolMan | and i figured it out |
| 00:54:08 | PhrostByte | ah there it goes, if only it would go faster than 20k/s |
| 00:54:15 | CoolMoDee | what snapped? |
| 00:54:20 | CoolMan | kbyte or kbit? |
| 00:54:24 | CoolMan | my mindset |
| 00:54:25 | PhrostByte | KB sorry |
| 00:54:28 | Bombthroat | Do you program in C? |
| 00:54:31 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 00:54:31 | PhrostByte | does |
| 00:54:37 | CoolMan | C rocks |
| 00:54:48 | CoolMoDee | yes i do |
| 00:54:58 | PhrostByte | hmm |
| 00:55:07 | CoolMoDee | more in java though, as i am in a java class right now |
| 00:55:10 | PhrostByte | i think i'll compile openoffice overnight |
| 00:55:23 | CoolMan | poor CoolMoDee |
| 00:55:28 | CoolMoDee | i should be coding in java, but i can't right now as no one can help me get my jdk/jvm setup |
| 00:55:39 | CoolMan | object oriented progging sucks kahunas |
| 00:55:45 | CoolMoDee | hell no |
| 00:55:46 | CoolMoDee | it rocks |
| 00:55:57 | CoolMoDee | i used to hate it, until i learned java |
| 00:56:05 | CoolMoDee | C++ does blow arse...hence Objective C |
| 00:56:06 | Bombthroat | brb |
| 00:56:09 | PhrostByte | yep |
| 00:56:13 | PhrostByte | ojc owns |
| 00:56:16 | PhrostByte | objc |
| 00:56:24 | CoolMoDee | mainly because i hate cout << |
| 00:56:27 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 00:56:28 | CoolMan | hmm |
| 00:56:35 | CoolMoDee | see-out chicken-leg chicken-leg |
| 00:56:36 | PhrostByte | but yes i agree java blows |
| 00:56:38 | PhrostByte | so so slow |
| 00:56:40 | CoolMan | should rephrase his statement |
| 00:56:54 | CoolMan | forced oo progging sucks |
| 00:56:56 | CoolMoDee | java rocks, its a serer language |
| 00:57:02 | CoolMoDee | server... |
| 00:57:05 | CoolMan | C is quite capeable of oo progging |
| 00:57:18 | CoolMoDee | it allows structres |
| 00:57:23 | CoolMoDee | but not classes |
| 00:57:26 | CoolMan | it just makes you understand whats hapening in detail |
| 00:57:32 | CoolMoDee | classes are soo much better |
| 00:57:35 | CoolMan | whats the diff? |
| 00:57:38 | CoolMoDee | because you can protect data |
| 00:57:45 | CoolMoDee | share between classes |
| 00:57:46 | CoolMan | ?? |
| 00:57:51 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 00:57:55 | CoolMan | thats called arguments |
| 00:58:00 | CoolMan | :) |
| 00:58:02 | CoolMan | ;) |
| 00:58:03 | CoolMoDee | you can make datatypes only accessable by certen functions |
| 00:58:17 | CoolMoDee | plus with a class you create your own data type |
| 00:58:19 | CoolMoDee | :-D |
| 00:58:27 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 00:58:28 | CoolMan | ... so? |
| 00:58:33 | PhrostByte | you poor slow bastard |
| 00:58:44 | CoolMoDee | its just better i think |
| 00:58:48 | CoolMoDee | oo programming |
| 00:58:49 | CoolMan | you have just been descriping pointer manipulation |
| 00:58:58 | CoolMan | (fancy) pointer manipulation |
| 00:59:04 | CoolMan | and structures |
| 00:59:15 | PhrostByte | in java it's like a ghz machine becomes 500mhz speed |
| 00:59:24 | CoolMan | with pointers to subs, and passing pointers to datas |
| 00:59:24 | CoolMoDee | also pointers are much safer to use with java |
| 00:59:46 | CoolMan | PhrostByte: preach it bro! |
| 00:59:49 | CoolMoDee | well they don't have pointers |
| 00:59:57 | CoolMoDee | its a referance |
| 01:00:04 | CoolMan | should be doin' his hw |
| 01:00:22 | CoolMan | argh |
| 01:00:22 | PhrostByte | should too |
| 01:00:25 | PhrostByte | is to entranced with surround sound though |
| 01:00:28 | CoolMan | is working on his hw now |
| 01:00:29 | CoolMoDee | hehe |
| 01:01:53 | PhrostByte | plays saving ryans privates and feels his feet vibrate from the shells going thought the subwoofer |
| 01:02:09 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 01:02:23 | CoolMoDee | is wearing headphones right now |
| 01:02:29 | CoolMan | wishes he could crank some music without waking his grandpa |
| 01:02:35 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:02:55 | PhrostByte | CoolMan: you should see me, i play some music so loud the neighbors call the cops on me |
| 01:03:07 | CoolMan | LOL |
| 01:03:25 | CoolMan | is considerate |
| 01:03:29 | CoolMan | it's a curse... |
| 01:03:34 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:03:38 | PhrostByte | i laugh it up though |
| 01:03:42 | CoolMoDee | PhrostByte just has the lack of a give a shits |
| 01:03:42 | CoolMan | lol |
| 01:03:48 | PhrostByte | because they say i'm disturbing the peace |
| 01:03:56 | PhrostByte | yet it's not after 10pm |
| 01:03:58 | PhrostByte | so i'm not |
| 01:04:13 | PhrostByte | last time they did that i just upped my sub's power |
| 01:04:14 | PhrostByte | hehe |
| 01:04:18 | CoolMoDee | hehe |
| 01:04:36 | CoolMan | *PhrostByte starts up his music, and an air raid siren goes off in the distance... |
| 01:04:47 | CoolMoDee | LOL |
| 01:04:47 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:05:05 | CoolMan | *the government evacuates his state |
| 01:05:23 | CoolMan | *and the richter scale is re-evaluated |
| 01:07:46 | Bombthroat | later |
| 01:07:50 | PhrostByte | later |
| 01:07:54 | Bombthroat | #quit |
| 01:07:59 | Bombthroat | doh... |
| 01:12:53 | CoolMan | wb |
| 01:13:08 | CoolMoDee | ty |
| 01:13:11 | CoolMoDee | i had to logout |
| 01:13:13 | CoolMoDee | then relogin |
| 01:13:28 | CoolMan | cool |
| 01:30:30 | PhrostByte | hey hey |
| 01:30:36 | PhrostByte | redhat 7.3 is out |
| 01:31:09 | CoolMan | no WAY! |
| 01:31:19 | CoolMan | w00t! w00t! |
| 01:31:26 | CoolMan | features? |
| 01:31:43 | CoolMan | prays that KDE3 is in there somwhere... |
| 01:32:06 | PhrostByte | lol yea it is |
| 01:32:14 | PhrostByte | it's been in 7.2.93b2 |
| 01:32:28 | CoolMan | cool |
| 01:32:57 | CoolMan | what about X? do you know if X 4.2.0 is in there? |
| 01:33:01 | CoolMan | err... |
| 01:33:10 | CoolMan | uh, i man the latest ver of X |
| 01:33:15 | CoolMan | *mean |
| 01:33:22 | CoolMan | is that 4.3.0? |
| 01:33:37 | PhrostByte | no |
| 01:33:39 | PhrostByte | 4.2.0 is there |
| 01:33:47 | PhrostByte | it's all updated calm down |
| 01:33:48 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:34:01 | CoolMan | is hyperventilating |
| 01:34:07 | CoolMan | ;) |
| 01:34:40 | PhrostByte | OMFG horrible |
| 01:34:43 | PhrostByte | ftp.redhat.com |
| 01:34:48 | PhrostByte | i'm getting 2.5KB/s |
| 01:35:10 | CoolMan | hehe, never go to redhat's official ftp |
| 01:35:17 | CoolMan | it's ALLWAYS swamped |
| 01:35:21 | CoolMan | get a mirror dude |
| 01:35:23 | PhrostByte | yea i know |
| 01:35:27 | PhrostByte | i'm checking them out |
| 01:35:51 | CoolMan | i will prob wait for awhile before i upgrade my sys |
| 01:35:57 | CoolMan | (reinstall) |
| 01:36:30 | PhrostByte | eeeek |
| 01:36:32 | PhrostByte | how evil |
| 01:36:33 | CoolMan | wait untill all the major issues in it are worked out |
| 01:36:38 | CoolMan | what? |
| 01:36:39 | PhrostByte | every mirror is overloaded |
| 01:36:40 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:36:43 | CoolMan | lol |
| 01:36:49 | PhrostByte | if only ibiblio.org mirrored redhat |
| 01:36:51 | CoolMan | everyone wants 7.3 i guess |
| 01:36:53 | PhrostByte | then it would be like shweeeet |
| 01:37:26 | CoolMan | yeah... |
| 01:37:45 | PhrostByte | considering i'm able to pull 250-300KB/s from them |
| 01:38:22 | CoolMan | only has a 128KBit ISDN line anyways |
| 01:38:45 | CoolMan | because he's too far away from civilization to get anything better... |
| 01:39:47 | PhrostByte | oh thank god |
| 01:39:53 | PhrostByte | found a fast mirror |
| 01:40:08 | CoolMan | Yahoo! |
| 01:40:12 | CoolMan | bbiab |
| 01:43:27 | CoolMan | back |
| 01:43:39 | PhrostByte | eeek so so slow 60kb/s |
| 01:43:44 | PhrostByte | not fair :( |
| 01:44:17 | CoolMan | is lucky when he gets 10 KBytes/sec |
| 01:44:35 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 01:44:46 | PhrostByte | well thats because your on a slower connection |
| 01:44:55 | PhrostByte | i'm on a faster-than-t1 cable line |
| 01:45:25 | PhrostByte | me thinks it's a t1-c |
| 01:45:49 | CoolMan | knows he's on a slow connection |
| 01:46:35 | CoolMan | also knows that THATS what's not fair, because when he called the cable company, they didn't know what he was talking about when he asked about road runner |
| 01:46:48 | CoolMan | it was sad |
| 01:49:10 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 01:49:16 | PhrostByte | why don't you get dsl then |
| 01:49:20 | PhrostByte | it blows but at least it's something |
| 01:52:32 | CoolMan | dsl isn't availible either |
| 01:53:23 | CoolMan | the phose idiots, (uh, i mean phone dudes), had to install a special repeater just to get ISDN *this* far away from the city |
| 01:53:56 | CoolMan | (if city is the right word for a grocery store and a post office) |
| 02:00:39 | CoolMan | it's sad |
| 02:01:09 | CoolMan | very sad |
| 02:09:41 | CoolMoDee | has the same type of connections as phrosty |
| 02:09:49 | PhrostByte | noooooo |
| 02:09:54 | CoolMoDee | what now? |
| 02:10:01 | PhrostByte | i don't have RtCW installed lol only the update |
| 02:10:15 | CoolMoDee | NOOOO |
| 02:10:20 | PhrostByte | meh |
| 02:10:20 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 02:10:21 | CoolMoDee | you must install it then :-D |
| 02:10:29 | PhrostByte | i'll get it after i've got redhat n' shit |
| 02:10:37 | PhrostByte | not that important, it's a shitty game |
| 02:10:38 | CoolMan | RtCW? is what? |
| 02:10:47 | PhrostByte | Return to Castle Wolfenstein |
| 02:10:50 | CoolMan | oic |
| 02:11:07 | CoolMoDee | stupid NANOSOARASS |
| 02:11:08 | PhrostByte | with their bullshit fire |
| 02:11:11 | CoolMan | --> back to the dishes... |
| 02:11:12 | PhrostByte | BULLSHIT FIRE |
| 02:11:13 | PhrostByte | FIRE |
| 02:11:14 | CoolMoDee | LOL |
| 02:11:15 | PhrostByte | EVIL FACKING FIRE |
| 02:11:17 | PhrostByte | KILL |
| 02:11:19 | PhrostByte | DIE |
| 02:11:20 | PhrostByte | DEAD |
| 02:11:33 | PhrostByte | i swear man if ID puts that pos fire in doom3 i'm gonna rip em a new one |
| 02:11:41 | CoolMoDee | lol |
| 02:12:11 | CoolMoDee | watches as John Macormic now can shit out of two assholes, and wins the fastest shitter contest |
| 02:12:37 | PhrostByte | shall root up all ID boxes and delete the fire code, causing them to redo it the right way |
| 02:12:45 | CoolMoDee | LOL |
| 02:13:20 | PhrostByte | damn redhat being 3 cds now |
| 02:13:27 | PhrostByte | causing me to use yet another case |
| 02:13:30 | PhrostByte | bastages |
| 02:13:47 | CoolMan | RH7.3 is 3 cds ??? |
| 02:13:52 | PhrostByte | yea |
| 02:13:54 | CoolMan | awesome |
| 02:13:56 | PhrostByte | +2 srpm cds |
| 02:18:54 | PhrostByte | disc 1: 30% |
| 02:19:43 | CoolMan | disk 1 is 30% full? |
| 02:21:34 | CoolMoDee | wb |
| 02:23:24 | [57th]cneal | stupid teamspeak program crashed my computer :\ |
| 02:24:03 | [57th]cneal | I'm gonna kill someone |
| 02:24:25 | [57th]cneal | ..in a game |
| 02:24:59 | CoolMoDee | why |
| 02:25:04 | PhrostByte | haha |
| 02:25:09 | CoolMoDee | hence linux :-D |
| 02:25:36 | CoolMan | is a dishes zombie |
| 02:26:20 | CoolMan | wandering around, jealous of those who have not entered into the bowls of Dishes Hell |
| 02:27:31 | CoolMoDee | lol |
| 02:27:33 | CoolMan | throws a plate frisbee-style at [57th]cneal's head, just because he is alive enough to consider games |
| 02:27:34 | CoolMoDee | i do them |
| 02:27:36 | PhrostByte | hehe i'd prefer the bowls of heaven (if you know what i mean :) |
| 02:28:05 | CoolMan | thought those were the cups of heaven LOL |
| 02:41:03 | PhrostByte | obviously you don't get it |
| 02:41:05 | PhrostByte | meh |
| 02:41:09 | PhrostByte | 1 hour left on cd 1 |
| 02:41:14 | PhrostByte | so so slow :( |
| 02:41:39 | CoolMan | nah, i didn't get it, but i made my own joke |
| 02:41:43 | CoolMan | you get mine? |
| 02:41:50 | PhrostByte | yes |
| 02:42:37 | PhrostByte | think of pot when i say bowl and you will (I hope to god) understand |
| 02:43:17 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:43:25 | CoolMan | i think i get it |
| 03:15:38 | travis_143cw | hello all |
| 03:22:27 | travis_143cw | wb |
| 03:22:34 | CoolMan | hey |
| 03:22:52 | travis_143cw | i will be back, i am going to start up my laptop and lay in bed and use irc |
| 03:22:58 | CoolMan | k |
| 03:24:04 | one_inch | holy friggin shit, if you havent seen spiderman yet, drop what ever you are doing and go see it |
| 03:24:22 | CoolMan | lol, wasn't that the best movie EVER?! |
| 03:24:56 | CoolMoDee | i saw it |
| 03:24:58 | CoolMoDee | earlier today |
| 03:25:00 | CoolMoDee | :-D |
| 03:25:05 | CoolMan | awesome huh? |
| 03:25:09 | CoolMoDee | yes |
| 03:25:11 | one_inch | hell yeah |
| 03:25:16 | CoolMoDee | it was really good |
| 03:25:20 | one_inch | i want to see it again |
| 03:25:21 | CoolMan | i loved it |
| 03:25:22 | one_inch | right not |
| 03:25:24 | one_inch | now* |
| 03:25:33 | CoolMan | one_inch: that's how i felt |
| 03:25:43 | CoolMan | the feeling seems to pass, slowly... |
| 03:25:49 | CoolMan | but i will see it again |
| 03:25:50 | one_inch | i saw it eairler today also |
| 03:25:53 | CoolMan | ;) |
| 03:25:56 | one_inch | :) |
| 03:26:00 | CoolMoDee | i saw it at 1:00 :-P |
| 03:26:04 | CoolMoDee | in statium seating |
| 03:26:14 | one_inch | i couldnt get enough, i wanted to hide out in the theater and see it again :P |
| 03:26:19 | CoolMoDee | hehe |
| 03:26:19 | CoolMan | lolol |
| 03:28:00 | one_inch | i have to say it is one of the best ever |
| 03:28:15 | one_inch | its neck to neck with the matrix |
| 03:28:37 | CoolMan | did you notice all of the matrix influence tho? |
| 03:28:48 | CoolMoDee | yes |
| 03:29:23 | one_inch | yeah |
| 03:29:31 | CoolMan | *spiderman jumps around the buzz saws in slowmotion, and the audience can allmost hear the matrix music goin' on... |
| 03:29:38 | one_inch | but still fucking awesome |
| 03:29:49 | CoolMan | i'm not saying it's any worse for it |
| 03:29:51 | CoolMan | it's better |
| 03:30:07 | CoolMan | that's an awesome style |
| 03:30:23 | one_inch | that seen was pimp shit |
| 03:30:34 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:30:34 | one_inch | god damn, i want the sequell... NOW |
| 03:30:40 | CoolMan | i hear ya |
| 03:31:19 | one_inch | i have to smoke a cig |
| 03:31:20 | one_inch | brb |
| 03:31:24 | CoolMan | k |
| 03:40:14 | one_inch | back |
| 03:40:50 | CoolMan | wb |
| 03:41:02 | one_inch | thankie |
| 03:41:14 | one_inch | i made me a sandwitch also |
| 03:41:41 | CoolMan | what kind? |
| 03:42:11 | one_inch | salamie with weird bread and weird cheese |
| 03:42:18 | one_inch | tast good |
| 03:42:21 | CoolMan | yuummm |
| 03:42:45 | one_inch | Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #52: |
| 03:42:45 | one_inch | Q: What is your name? |
| 03:42:45 | one_inch | A: Ernestine McDowell. |
| 03:42:45 | one_inch | Q: And what is your marital status? |
| 03:42:46 | one_inch | A: Fair. |
| 03:42:48 | one_inch | lmfao |
| 03:43:00 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:44:01 | one_inch | damn, i want the spiderman dvd |
| 03:44:14 | one_inch | so i can watch it again and again and again |
| 03:46:11 | CoolMan | i don't blame you |
| 03:46:23 | CoolMan | (camcorder in the theatre, oh yeah) |
| 03:47:47 | one_inch | heh, my friend is gettin it in svcd format right now |
| 03:47:57 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:48:02 | CoolMoDee | i should be getting a dvd quality copy of spiderman soon |
| 03:48:02 | CoolMan | SVCDs rock |
| 03:48:04 | CoolMoDee | :-) |
| 03:48:14 | CoolMan | i know alot about them, as i rip DVDs to them quite a bit |
| 03:52:30 | CoolMoDee | what's an SVCD? |
| 03:52:55 | CoolMan | Super Video Compact Disk |
| 03:53:00 | CoolMoDee | o |
| 03:53:09 | CoolMoDee | whats the differnce between that and a dvd? |
| 03:53:09 | CoolMan | (Recursive acronym) |
| 03:53:28 | CoolMan | about 7 gigs |
| 03:53:48 | CoolMan | DVD is a special media format the holds more data |
| 03:54:16 | CoolMan | (DVD video is a DVD with encrypted MPEG2 data on it) |
| 03:54:45 | CoolMan | an SVCD is a CD-ROM with lower quality, not-encrypted MPEG2 on it |
| 03:55:00 | CoolMoDee | o |
| 03:55:14 | CoolMan | for good, near DVD quality, you normally get a full 2 hour movie on 2 CDs |
| 04:21:38 | [57th]cneal | Anyone know How do you do exponents in c++? |
| 05:11:29 | CoolMoDee | yep............................... |
| 05:11:56 | CoolMoDee | Bakemono likes testicles |
| 05:12:04 | CoolMoDee | in more ways than one |
| 05:12:09 | Bakemono | : | |
| 05:12:18 | Bakemono | I do? |
| 05:12:32 | CoolMoDee | sure why not |
| 05:12:40 | CoolMoDee | was board...had to get people talking somehow |
| 05:12:50 | CoolMoDee | your comp must beep whenever your name is said |
| 05:13:03 | Bakemono | no |
| 05:13:16 | CoolMoDee | you just look at irc then? |
| 05:13:26 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 05:13:32 | CoolMoDee | why such an old kernel? |
| 05:13:37 | Bakemono | lazyu |
| 05:13:42 | CoolMoDee | compile kerenl |
| 05:13:45 | CoolMoDee | so much fun |
| 05:13:54 | CoolMoDee | has a preimptive kernel :-P |
| 05:15:22 | one_inch | hehe |
| 05:15:25 | one_inch | SPIDERMAN RULES |
| 05:15:28 | one_inch | :)))))))))))))) |
| 05:15:37 | Bakemono | shall go see it |
| 05:15:52 | one_inch | go, go NOW |
| 05:15:57 | one_inch | :P |
| 05:16:05 | CoolMoDee | yep |
| 05:16:08 | CoolMoDee | NOW |
| 05:17:01 | CoolMoDee | it will be cool |
| 05:17:51 | one_inch | how is the ol tuxbox commin along? |
| 05:17:51 | CoolMoDee | when i get a dvd quality copy of that |
| 05:20:40 | [57th]cneal | :\ |
| 05:20:50 | [57th]cneal | I wish I had starwars tickets |
| 05:20:55 | CoolMoDee | me too |
| 05:21:02 | CoolMoDee | will raid and pillage for them |
| 05:21:11 | Bakemono | it sold out? |
| 05:21:22 | [57th]cneal | I guess |
| 05:21:59 | [57th]cneal | Their special tickets, need to be reserved weeks in advance |
| 05:22:52 | [57th]cneal | I didn't even get to watch starwars 1 :( |
| 05:23:02 | CoolMoDee | these one guys have been waiting for 4 and a half months |
| 05:23:05 | CoolMoDee | all alone |
| 05:23:20 | Bakemono | when's ep. 2 hitting theaters? |
| 05:23:53 | [57th]cneal | april? |
| 05:24:03 | [57th]cneal | or may |
| 05:24:18 | Bakemono | seeing as it's may already |
| 05:24:23 | CoolMoDee | the good part about it is |
| 05:24:24 | Bakemono | I don't think april |
| 05:24:31 | CoolMoDee | Jar Jar dies in the first 15 minutes |
| 05:24:32 | CoolMoDee | wh00t wh00t |
| 05:24:40 | [57th]cneal | cool |
| 05:24:47 | [57th]cneal | Whos Jar Jar? |
| 05:25:01 | CoolMoDee | Jar-Jar Binks |
| 05:25:07 | Bakemono | 16th me thinks |
| 05:25:13 | [57th]cneal | oh yeah |
| 05:25:17 | Bakemono | Jar jar dies??? |
| 05:25:19 | Bakemono | NO!!!!!!! |
| 05:25:23 | CoolMoDee | lol |
| 05:25:39 | [57th]cneal | Jar Jar the monkie? |
| 05:26:25 | [57th]cneal | The one that flys the plane in the first starwars? |
| 05:27:09 | Bakemono | ?? |
| 05:27:42 | [57th]cneal | Whos Jar Jar? |
| 05:27:53 | Bakemono | the wierd thing with the big floppy ears |
| 05:28:11 | [57th]cneal | oh |
| 05:28:18 | [57th]cneal | In the swamp |
| 05:28:26 | Bakemono | http://www.theforce.net/timetales/tt1-8/JAR-JAR.JPG |
| 05:28:42 | [57th]cneal | oh |
| 05:30:16 | [57th]cneal | Maybe it was a different Jar Jar that died? |
| 06:13:44 | Snake | someone whois me |
| 06:14:16 | one_inch | what am i suppost to see? |
| 06:14:25 | Snake | just show me what you see |
| 06:14:28 | one_inch | or what am i looking for? |
| 06:14:41 | Snake | just paste it here |
| 06:14:42 | one_inch | --- [Snake] (TaiMaiShu@203-167-168-23.dialup.clear.net.nz) : Tai Mai Shu |
| 06:14:42 | one_inch | --- [Snake] #tuxboxproject |
| 06:14:42 | one_inch | --- [Snake] irc.openprojects.net :http://www.openprojects.net/ |
| 06:14:42 | one_inch | --- [Snake] idle 00:00:14, signon: Tue May 7 01:16:52 |
| 06:14:42 | one_inch | --- [snake] End of WHOIS list. |
| 06:15:18 | Snake | ok |
| 06:16:30 | [57th]cneal | awsome |
| 07:56:54 | [57th]cneal | -/-ù¤ßò¤ :Ð |
| 08:37:19 | [57th]cneal | <- |
| 08:44:50 | [57th]cneal | <- is now known as bracket :D |
| 11:42:58 | PhrostByte | is away: gone to the world |
| 16:11:46 | CoolMan | hey dude |
| 16:11:54 | travis | invite me =P |
| 17:24:01 | CoolMan | hey |
| 17:27:07 | CoolMoDee | hey |
| 17:27:12 | CoolMan | sup? |
| 17:27:18 | CoolMoDee | gonna go play some heretic2 |
| 17:27:25 | CoolMan | oh, btw, how did you like the rubicon7 stuff? |
| 17:27:28 | CoolMoDee | x-chat just kinda poped up on its own |
| 17:27:37 | CoolMan | kool, have fun |
| 17:27:42 | CoolMoDee | that was the techno right? |
| 17:27:45 | CoolMoDee | that you e-mailed me |
| 17:27:48 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 17:27:51 | CoolMan | the second one |
| 17:27:59 | CoolMoDee | ya, it was ok |
| 17:28:07 | CoolMoDee | i can't really remember it right now |
| 17:28:10 | CoolMan | lol |
| 17:28:14 | CoolMan | gotcha |
| 17:43:04 | travis|afk | is back |
| 18:32:59 | Bakemono|Sick | it says that left won't modify the string you pass it |
| 18:46:01 | PhrostByte | is back (gone 07:03:10) |
| 21:12:46 | nickels | hello |
| 21:15:32 | CoolMoDee | hey |
| 21:15:35 | CoolMoDee | hey PhrostByte |
| 21:17:18 | PhrostByte | hey |
| 21:18:01 | CoolMoDee | stupid id |
| 21:18:05 | PhrostByte | your not in gaim.. |
| 21:18:10 | CoolMoDee | i know |
| 21:18:20 | CoolMoDee | im gonna start again on my hw |
| 21:18:27 | CoolMoDee | stupid ID Software |
| 21:20:24 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 21:20:38 | CoolMoDee | Vocab HW == Massive Boring |
| 21:20:44 | CoolMoDee | worse than Health |
| 21:23:00 | nickels | what's up guys |
| 21:23:12 | CoolMoDee | notta |
| 21:23:12 | CoolMoDee | u? |
| 21:23:26 | nickels | coding in class as we speak |
| 21:23:28 | CoolMoDee | where is Fresno, i live somewhere near it |
| 21:23:32 | CoolMoDee | what language? |
| 21:23:36 | nickels | c |
| 21:23:39 | CoolMoDee | sweet |
| 21:23:43 | CoolMoDee | what are you programming? |
| 21:24:15 | nickels | some merging then sorting array stuff |
| 21:24:32 | CoolMoDee | cool |
| 21:24:34 | nickels | you live near fresno |
| 21:24:43 | CoolMoDee | i gotta code something later today, link lists |
| 21:24:52 | CoolMoDee | i think so, live south of LA |
| 21:24:59 | CoolMoDee | forgets these things |
| 21:25:02 | nickels | hmm, not close to fresno |
| 21:25:10 | nickels | fresno is by san fran |
| 21:25:12 | CoolMoDee | o |
| 21:25:13 | nickels | kind of |
| 21:25:31 | nickels | link lists, are you on stacks then too? |
| 21:25:44 | CoolMoDee | im coding this in java |
| 21:26:00 | nickels | ohh, do you code in c too |
| 21:26:05 | CoolMoDee | i havn't coded in C in a while because ive been taking a Java class |
| 21:26:23 | CoolMoDee | i forgot C++ because i didn't like it, so next up is Objective C |
| 21:26:35 | CoolMoDee | the whole cout << |
| 21:26:36 | nickels | yeah, i am not a big fan of c++ |
| 21:26:39 | nickels | lol |
| 21:26:50 | nickels | but i have to do it for comp sci |
| 21:27:10 | CoolMoDee | :( |
| 21:27:21 | CoolMoDee | i already took that class |
| 21:27:25 | CoolMoDee | and a C class |
| 21:27:40 | CoolMoDee | but i also got HS to deal with, so i gotta stop taken classes over there for a little |
| 21:28:08 | nickels | where are you going to college |
| 21:28:37 | CoolMoDee | Community College right now Golden West College |
| 21:28:50 | CoolMoDee | i kinda want to goto a university, but i also don't want to |
| 21:29:16 | nickels | you going to major in comp sci |
| 21:29:18 | nickels | ? |
| 21:29:24 | CoolMoDee | yep |
| 21:29:32 | nickels | sweet |
| 21:29:50 | CoolMoDee | i want pure UNIX coding and 0 Win32 coding |
| 21:30:28 | nickels | i love system programming |
| 21:30:56 | CoolMoDee | i hate Win32 |
| 21:31:03 | CoolMoDee | too Microsofie |
| 21:31:16 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 21:31:39 | PhrostByte | microsoft isn't that bad man |
| 21:31:52 | PhrostByte | i disagree with every way of doing things they have, but it's not *that* bad |
| 21:32:00 | CoolMoDee | point is |
| 21:32:03 | CoolMoDee | UNIX codin |
| 21:32:06 | CoolMoDee | not Win32 |
| 21:32:10 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 21:32:20 | PhrostByte | good luck making money :) |
| 21:32:26 | CoolMoDee | of course i will prob be on of those coders with a sign that reads "Will Code for food" |
| 21:32:30 | PhrostByte | unless gtk+ 2 ever gets that win32 port done |
| 21:32:41 | CoolMoDee | there is plenty of money to be made with UNIX coding |
| 22:23:28 | PhrostByte|gone | is away: all gone |
