| 04:13:48 | [57th]cneal | Hi |
| 04:15:29 | [57th]cneal | :D |
| 04:16:03 | [57th]cneal | is away: because it just better that way |
| 05:20:23 | Snake | hey |
| 05:20:33 | Bakemono | hey hey hey! |
| 05:36:12 | Bakemono | welcome back |
| 05:54:20 | Snake | JESUS MOTHERFUKCING GOD |
| 05:54:23 | Snake | AHHHH!!!!!! |
| 05:54:31 | Snake | MOTHER FUCKING SHIT HOLE OF A COMPUTER |
| 05:54:35 | Snake | FUCKKKK!!!!!! |
| 05:57:43 | one_inch | heh |
| 05:58:08 | one_inch | dont you just hate it when they dont include the uninstall feature in the Makefile? |
| 06:45:12 | CoolMoDee | sup yo? |
| 06:49:27 | CoolMoDee | i can't get the controler to work with linux :( |
| 06:49:38 | CoolMoDee | when i compile my kernel with iforce support, it creates a kernel panic :( |
| 06:49:55 | Bakemono | :( |
| 06:50:01 | Bakemono | make sure you compile it as a module |
| 06:50:07 | Bakemono | or it'll be hell debugging the problem |
| 06:50:08 | CoolMoDee | i think i didnt |
| 06:50:37 | CoolMoDee | i got a Wingman Rumblepad |
| 06:50:44 | CoolMoDee | that;s the right one right? |
| 06:50:46 | Snake | heh |
| 06:50:51 | Bakemono | I think so |
| 06:50:54 | Snake | what do you need the controller to work for? |
| 06:50:58 | Bakemono | lol |
| 06:51:02 | Snake | what are you making that needs it/ |
| 06:51:03 | Bakemono | for your sake I hope so |
| 06:51:04 | Snake | ? |
| 06:51:13 | Bakemono | Ninja Warrior! |
| 06:51:22 | CoolMoDee | if it dosn't work i can always return it |
| 06:51:23 | CoolMoDee | :) |
| 06:51:36 | Snake | NINJA WARRIOR WILL KICK |
| 06:51:59 | CoolMoDee | i was poking phrost's cat :) |
| 06:52:03 | Snake | brb |
| 06:52:38 | Bakemono | lol |
| 06:52:48 | CoolMoDee | it was quite funny |
| 06:53:03 | CoolMoDee | because he looked at me, then went "bleh, im going back to sleep" |
| 06:53:28 | Bakemono | phrosty or the cat? |
| 06:53:38 | CoolMoDee | Phrost's cat |
| 06:54:41 | one_inch | what controller do you have coomodee? |
| 07:04:03 | CoolMoDee | i have the Logitech Wingman Rumblepad |
| 07:05:22 | one_inch | cool, i got the interact/3DFX HammerheadFX |
| 07:05:45 | one_inch | damn good controller, but can be a bitch to set up |
| 07:05:53 | CoolMoDee | i got this one for the tux box :) |
| 07:06:20 | one_inch | kick ass |
| 07:06:51 | one_inch | what controller will the tuxbox use? |
| 07:07:02 | CoolMoDee | the one that i got |
| 07:07:04 | CoolMoDee | i think |
| 07:10:00 | Snake | bake |
| 07:10:05 | Snake | you there? |
| 07:12:05 | one_inch | i think hes off in lala land smokin a j |
| 07:12:15 | Snake | snake.scurvypenguin.net/Sword.ms3d |
| 07:12:35 | Snake | he should take a look at my ninja sword model for the game |
| 07:12:41 | Snake | i want him to tell me what he thinks |
| 07:16:44 | one_inch | the weirdest freakin peopl join my chan on dalnet |
| 07:16:52 | one_inch | people* |
| 07:16:53 | Snake | heh |
| 07:17:56 | one_inch | they never say a thing and their nicks are always in caps and they dont spell anything out |
| 07:19:04 | Snake | Coolmodee, Phost, done anything for ninja warrior? |
| 07:19:12 | Snake | Phrost* |
| 07:22:29 | Snake | ... |
| 07:23:36 | CoolMoDee | nope....net yet |
| 07:23:38 | CoolMoDee | not |
| 07:23:46 | CoolMoDee | about to start learning OpenGL programming... |
| 07:23:48 | CoolMoDee | :/ |
| 07:24:23 | Snake | heh |
| 07:24:25 | Snake | kool |
| 07:24:28 | Snake | im doing 3d modeling |
| 07:24:31 | CoolMoDee | cool |
| 07:24:33 | Snake | ive done the ninja's sword |
| 07:24:37 | Snake | and throwing knives |
| 07:24:44 | Snake | now i might do the shurikens |
| 07:24:53 | Snake | i need to find a awsome shriken to work from |
| 07:24:57 | Snake | cause some shurikens look shit |
| 07:26:39 | PhrostByte | bleh |
| 07:26:52 | PhrostByte|quake | is away: fraggage |
| 07:32:38 | Snake | BAKEMONO |
| 07:32:51 | Snake | Coolmodee |
| 07:32:53 | Snake | you there? |
| 07:33:18 | one_inch | they've all left ya |
| 07:33:26 | one_inch | alone in the dark |
| 07:33:36 | one_inch | with nothing but a loly pop |
| 07:33:40 | Snake | what do you think of this shuriken |
| 07:33:42 | Snake | http://knifehelp.bizland.com/images/havocc.jpg |
| 07:35:01 | one_inch | damn i really need to get dsl or cable |
| 07:35:27 | one_inch | its takin forever and a farkin day, but its loading |
| 07:37:08 | one_inch | thats awesome |
| 07:37:18 | CoolMoDee | yes i am |
| 07:37:43 | CoolMoDee | whoa |
| 07:37:46 | CoolMoDee | who made that? |
| 07:38:20 | Snake | im not sure |
| 07:38:28 | Snake | the guy who owns the website |
| 07:38:34 | Snake | thats the on ill use for the game then |
| 07:38:49 | CoolMoDee | get permission first |
| 07:38:56 | Snake | ...? |
| 07:38:59 | Snake | its shuriken |
| 07:39:02 | CoolMoDee | what is that |
| 07:39:03 | Snake | its ninja gear |
| 07:39:08 | Snake | its not trademarked |
| 07:39:26 | Snake | i could just say i was making a shuriken, and ours turned out simialr |
| 07:39:27 | Snake | heh |
| 07:39:29 | CoolMoDee | BBBAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 07:39:31 | one_inch | heh |
| 07:39:39 | one_inch | perWHO WHAT? |
| 07:41:20 | Snake | http://knifehelp.bizland.com/Ninja%20Weapons.htm |
| 07:41:22 | Snake | check this shit |
| 07:41:42 | Snake | those claws and foot spikes kick ass |
| 07:44:34 | CoolMoDee | http://knifehelp.bizland.com/images/foot_spikes.jpg |
| 07:44:39 | CoolMoDee | i want some of those |
| 07:47:38 | CoolMoDee | wb |
| 07:51:07 | Snake | thanx |
| 07:51:33 | Snake | when you make muffins, do you have to have and egg |
| 07:51:44 | Snake | is egg an essential ingrediants in baking? |
| 07:51:49 | Snake | or can you do wihtout it? |
| 07:52:28 | one_inch | i belive its essential |
| 07:52:39 | one_inch | i'm not sure though |
| 07:52:39 | one_inch | is no damn chef |
| 07:52:42 | one_inch | :) |
| 07:53:05 | CoolMoDee | ping me |
| 07:53:07 | CoolMoDee | once |
| 07:53:58 | Snake | no reply |
| 07:54:04 | Snake | heh |
| 08:24:09 | CoolMoDee | stupid OpenGL being hard :( |
| 08:25:04 | Snake | lol |
| 08:25:11 | Snake | programming is hard |
| 08:25:14 | Snake | thats why i do 3d |
| 08:25:15 | Snake | heh |
| 08:25:23 | CoolMoDee | programming isn't too hard |
| 08:25:32 | CoolMoDee | just trying to keep track of multiple axsises |
| 08:26:23 | Snake | heh |
| 08:26:33 | Snake | its a side scroller |
| 08:26:36 | Snake | theres only 2 directions |
| 08:26:37 | Snake | heh |
| 08:28:12 | CoolMoDee | yes i know |
| 08:28:23 | CoolMoDee | but might as well learn z axis while im at it :) |
| 08:29:25 | Snake | :/ |
| 08:29:30 | Snake | try the W axis |
| 08:29:34 | Snake | and then youll be stumped |
| 08:29:47 | Snake | 4D |
| 08:29:50 | Snake | its a killer |
| 08:29:52 | Snake | owell |
| 08:32:42 | CoolMoDee | LOL |
| 08:32:51 | CoolMoDee | im getting errors on code that is commented out |
| 08:32:53 | CoolMoDee | ,,, |
| 09:06:09 | CoolMoDee | ok, im getting it now |
| 09:06:54 | Bakemono | yo yo yo |
| 09:06:57 | Bakemono | what up in da hood? |
| 09:07:24 | one_inch | notthin |
| 09:07:35 | Bakemono | hey hey small package |
| 09:07:57 | one_inch | heh |
| 09:08:01 | CoolMoDee | learning OpenGL |
| 09:08:07 | Bakemono | :) |
| 09:08:11 | Bakemono | mmm...opengl... |
| 09:08:19 | Bakemono | if you have any questions... |
| 09:08:20 | CoolMoDee | not knowing the size of the grid when drawing a polygon fucks with your head |
| 09:08:20 | Bakemono | I am |
| 09:08:22 | one_inch | i'm whishin i could get asmail to compile |
| 09:08:25 | Bakemono | not the person! |
| 09:08:29 | CoolMoDee | lol |
| 09:08:35 | Bakemono | what grid? |
| 09:09:20 | Bakemono | what's this "grid" you speak of? |
| 09:09:49 | CoolMoDee | setting things on the x y and z axis |
| 09:10:31 | Bakemono | .. |
| 09:11:06 | Bakemono | you crazy crazy person |
| 09:14:26 | CoolMoDee | OMFG!!! |
| 09:14:53 | CoolMoDee | the compiler is bitching because the code used some C++ comments, not C |
| 09:15:15 | Bakemono | what compiler is this? |
| 09:16:00 | CoolMoDee | gcc |
| 09:16:44 | CoolMoDee | im going on the tuts from NeHe |
| 09:16:52 | CoolMoDee | but im using the linux/glx prot |
| 09:16:55 | CoolMoDee | port* |
| 09:17:42 | CoolMoDee | it normaly dosn't do that |
| 09:17:46 | CoolMoDee | but bleh |
| 09:28:45 | one_inch | damn its a bit chili out side tonight |
| 17:20:35 | travis_143cw | howdy |
| 17:21:42 | one_inch | hi |
| 17:22:31 | travis_143cw | whats going on? |
| 17:22:32 | one_inch | i'm laggin like a pinto in the daytona 500 |
| 17:24:33 | one_inch | i need food too |
| 17:24:43 | one_inch | and more coffee |
| 17:24:56 | one_inch | what goin on in your end of the world? |
| 17:36:30 | travis_143cw | eating food at work |
| 17:37:07 | travis_143cw | not much going on except that my java final project is due thursday |
| 17:40:49 | one_inch | you in collage? |
| 17:41:32 | one_inch | speakin of java, i'm downloading j2re 1.4.0 as we speak |
| 17:41:45 | travis_143cw | yeah i am a college student also |
| 17:42:07 | travis_143cw | i really dont like java too much |
| 17:42:15 | one_inch | kick ass, what collage are you attending? |
| 17:42:32 | travis_143cw | Brown College in Mendota Heights, MN |
| 17:42:56 | one_inch | there's people in MN? |
| 17:43:04 | one_inch | :P |
| 17:43:09 | travis_143cw | 4.5 million or so =P |
| 17:43:51 | one_inch | i dont care too much for java either, but its gennerly a good thing to have installed seince so frickin many things are being made with it now adays |
| 17:44:08 | one_inch | ilives in texas |
| 17:44:20 | travis_143cw | i moved to mn from tx |
| 17:44:23 | one_inch | lives in texas |
| 17:44:46 | one_inch | whats your major? |
| 17:45:06 | one_inch | i figured that seince you said howdy :) |
| 17:45:37 | travis_143cw | i am just getting my associate degree in compputer programming |
| 17:45:51 | travis_143cw | i have much more school to go though after this |
| 17:46:25 | one_inch | thats excelent, keep up the good hard work and i wish you the best of luck |
| 17:46:39 | one_inch | where did you live at in texas? |
| 17:46:54 | travis_143cw | Houston area |
| 17:47:20 | one_inch | oh, i'm in the dallas area |
| 17:47:28 | travis_143cw | ah cool |
| 17:47:33 | one_inch | just north of it |
| 17:47:46 | travis_143cw | i just wish it would warm up here, i have been here for a while, but it is still cold |
| 17:47:51 | travis_143cw | getting used to it though |
| 17:47:52 | travis_143cw | ... |
| 17:47:56 | one_inch | in a little suburbs called the colony |
| 17:48:09 | travis_143cw | its the end of march, it shouldnt feel like january... |
| 17:48:21 | one_inch | its got cold last night down here |
| 17:48:42 | one_inch | i hear yeah there, i was sayin that last night |
| 17:49:03 | one_inch | its still kinda chilie out there today |
| 17:50:45 | travis_143cw | what temp? |
| 17:51:14 | one_inch | i dont know, feels liks its in the 40's |
| 17:51:44 | travis_143cw | that would honestly be T-shirt weather here right now.... |
| 17:52:50 | one_inch | i bet it would be |
| 17:53:23 | one_inch | but still this is texas and the end of march, it should be hot nasty and sticky out side |
| 17:54:14 | travis_143cw | true |
| 17:54:25 | one_inch | the temp out side should be makin its ever so gradual climb to the 100+ mark |
| 17:55:35 | one_inch | it had to be misrible in houston in the summer time, right there off the coast, the humidity had to be almost unbearable in the summer |
| 17:56:28 | one_inch | i live right off a lake and it gets pretty farkin bad, but probably nothin compaired to the coast |
| 18:42:28 | CoolMan | hello all you zombies |
| 18:42:44 | one_inch | hi hi hi |
| 18:43:14 | CoolMan | wow, a talking zombie |
| 18:43:35 | one_inch | mwaaaarrrrrrrrrg! |
| 18:43:40 | one_inch | :P |
| 18:43:42 | CoolMan | lol |
| 18:44:21 | one_inch | FeEd bRaiN mE noW!, fEeD Me brAiN nOw |
| 18:44:29 | one_inch | :P |
| 18:45:18 | CoolMan | lol |
| 18:46:17 | one_inch | how are things lookin on the tuxbox side of things? |
| 18:46:59 | CoolMan | very well acually |
| 18:47:17 | CoolMan | (sorry if i don't answer right away, i'm reading an opengl book) |
| 18:47:35 | CoolMan | i'm looking at ways to spiff up my tuxbox game |
| 18:48:07 | one_inch | excelent |
| 18:48:23 | CoolMan | thanks trav |
| 18:48:26 | travis_143cw | moo |
| 18:48:26 | one_inch | (sorry if i dont answer right away, i'm laggin bad right now) |
| 18:48:30 | travis_143cw | yep |
| 18:49:22 | travis_143cw | i am writing a program at work to handle the president's church's surveys...(president of this company that is) |
| 18:49:34 | travis_143cw | and it sucks.... and i hate vb.... |
| 18:49:39 | CoolMan | lolol |
| 18:49:44 | travis_143cw | and i want to cry cause of vb.... |
| 18:49:58 | one_inch | whoa, man... i think i drank too much coffe |
| 18:51:05 | CoolMan | lol |
| 18:51:59 | one_inch | my dad is learning VB and i dont know why he insists on learning it |
| 18:52:10 | CoolMan | thats sad... |
| 18:52:16 | one_inch | he knows c and c++ |
| 18:52:30 | one_inch | so why in the hell learn a shit language like vb |
| 18:52:39 | CoolMan | d00d, i'm using 20 megs of triangle mesh for my pre-rendered backdrops of Space Wreckage |
| 18:54:26 | one_inch | what is also sad, is he big time courious about linux/unix and i have offered to install a distro and help him set it on on an old p200 or a box like that, but he wont, he almost refuses to give linux/unix a try |
| 18:54:52 | one_inch | help him set it up on* |
| 18:55:07 | CoolMan | he's curious, but not corageous? |
| 18:55:20 | one_inch | yep, exactly |
| 18:55:37 | CoolMan | i know people like that |
| 18:55:41 | CoolMan | to a point |
| 18:56:05 | one_inch | i have so many diffrent distros its unbeliveable, but he wont let me install it on an old box so he can play around with it and see what its all about |
| 18:56:09 | travis_143cw | needs a nap... |
| 18:56:52 | one_inch | needs one too |
| 18:57:24 | CoolMan | needs to get this done... |
| 19:02:38 | travis_143cw | needs to wake up at work... |
| 19:35:03 | CoolMan | bbiab |
| 20:42:43 | CoolMan | hey |
| 20:42:50 | CoolMoDee | yep... |
| 20:42:51 | CoolMoDee | i picked me up a controler |
| 20:42:58 | CoolMan | you like it? |
| 20:43:07 | CoolMoDee | although when i recompiled my kernel with iforce in it, my kernel paniced :( |
| 20:43:12 | CoolMan | you get the wireless kind? or wired? |
| 20:43:12 | CoolMoDee | ya, its cool |
| 20:43:16 | CoolMoDee | wired |
| 20:43:22 | CoolMan | its not iforce |
| 20:43:32 | CoolMan | compiling with iforce will not help ;) |
| 20:43:50 | CoolMoDee | o |
| 20:44:01 | CoolMoDee | well it still dosn't do anything |
| 20:44:25 | CoolMan | you can read from it right? |
| 20:44:34 | CoolMan | with "jstest /dev/js0"? |
| 20:44:36 | CoolMoDee | i don't know how i can test it |
| 20:44:50 | CoolMoDee | i need to recopile my kernel |
| 20:45:03 | CoolMan | at a shell, type "jstest /dev/js0" (assuming you have jstest installed) |
| 20:46:35 | CoolMoDee | i don't think i do |
| 20:46:50 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 20:51:19 | CoolMoDee | where do i add it? |
| 20:51:25 | CoolMan | what, jstest? |
| 20:51:26 | CoolMoDee | im configureing my kernel now |
| 20:51:35 | CoolMan | jstest is a program |
| 20:51:38 | CoolMoDee | don't i need to enable support for joysticks? |
| 20:51:44 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 20:52:04 | CoolMoDee | i-force USB joysticks and wheels? |
| 20:52:05 | CoolMoDee | or |
| 20:52:21 | CoolMoDee | Logictech ADI Digital Joysticks and gamepads |
| 20:52:22 | CoolMan | i think this monster uses joydev, hid, input core, and some other stuff |
| 20:52:27 | CoolMan | niether of those |
| 20:52:35 | CoolMan | (i don't think) |
| 20:57:00 | CoolMoDee | im compiling now :) |
| 20:57:09 | CoolMoDee | err |
| 20:57:10 | CoolMan | sweet |
| 20:57:11 | CoolMoDee | make dep ing it |
| 20:57:14 | CoolMan | i hope it works... |
| 20:59:54 | CoolMoDee | it will |
| 21:00:01 | CoolMoDee | ive been compiling my kernel so much lately |
| 21:00:05 | CoolMan | lol |
| 21:00:09 | CoolMan | which kernel? |
| 21:00:46 | CoolMoDee | 2.4.18 |
| 21:00:53 | CoolMan | like it? |
| 21:01:40 | CoolMoDee | yep |
| 21:02:23 | CoolMan | i need to bbiab |
| 21:02:36 | CoolMoDee | k |
| 21:02:43 | CoolMan | i'm working on my game on multiple computers |
| 21:03:05 | CoolMan | and i need to work on the *other* one, the one running Winblows |
| 21:34:13 | aradesh | hi' |
| 22:41:35 | CoolMoDee | hey man that is cool |
| 22:41:38 | CoolMan | i'mm baaack! |
| 22:41:46 | CoolMan | whats cool? |
| 22:42:06 | CoolMoDee | i recomiled my kernel |
| 22:42:10 | CoolMoDee | how do i find out if it is working? |
| 22:42:35 | CoolMan | first, you need the ff-utils |
| 22:42:40 | CoolMan | jstest is in there |
| 22:42:42 | CoolMan | wait |
| 22:42:52 | CoolMan | try typing jstest |
| 22:43:07 | CoolMoDee | ok |
| 22:43:09 | CoolMoDee | i got output |
| 22:43:15 | CoolMan | good |
| 22:43:24 | CoolMan | try "jstest /dev/js0" |
| 22:43:40 | CoolMoDee | aaaaahhh |
| 22:43:40 | CoolMoDee | ok |
| 22:43:41 | CoolMoDee | i did |
| 22:43:49 | CoolMan | it work? |
| 22:44:05 | CoolMoDee | yep |
| 22:44:06 | CoolMoDee | :) |
| 22:44:11 | CoolMan | awesome! |
| 22:44:22 | CoolMan | (the driver for the ff isn't finished yet) |
| 22:44:26 | CoolMan | acually... |
| 22:44:30 | CoolMan | i just had a thought |
| 22:44:37 | CoolMan | you want to help with the tuxbox right? |
| 22:44:47 | CoolMoDee | i bought the controller didn't i ;) |
| 22:44:56 | CoolMan | and you like messing with your kernel? |
| 22:45:03 | CoolMoDee | its ok |
| 22:45:03 | CoolMoDee | ya |
| 22:45:15 | CoolMan | i know how you could help! |
| 22:45:55 | CoolMan | i don't have the time/skill to help tuxcomp write support for the wired controller |
| 22:46:08 | CoolMan | if you could help with testing instead of me... |
| 22:46:18 | CoolMan | (since i'm not helping now anyway) |
| 22:46:39 | CoolMoDee | i could help with the testing |
| 22:46:57 | CoolMan | you would have to apply patches to kernels... |
| 22:47:07 | CoolMan | and re-compile lots and lots of times |
| 22:47:18 | CoolMoDee | no biggie |
| 22:47:24 | CoolMoDee | i like compiling it :) |
| 22:47:51 | CoolMan | but i would have to modify the patch for 2.4.X for me to help, because 2.5 doesn't support my USB hardware yet |
| 22:48:00 | CoolMoDee | :( |
| 22:48:02 | CoolMan | (or somthing) |
| 22:48:04 | CoolMoDee | im running 2.4.18 :) |
| 22:48:40 | CoolMan | well, you wouldn't want to apply these patches to your main kernel yet anyway... |
| 22:49:17 | CoolMan | hey |
| 22:49:28 | PhrostByte | hey |
| 22:49:44 | CoolMan | space wreckage now has some better graphics |
| 22:49:52 | CoolMoDee | wh00t |
| 22:50:01 | CoolMan | oh yeah |
| 22:50:27 | CoolMan | i have pov-ray pre-rendered backdrops now |
| 22:51:09 | CoolMoDee | brb |
| 22:51:20 | CoolMan | k |
| 22:52:08 | PhrostByte | stupid opengl annoying me |
| 22:52:20 | CoolMan | what's wrong? |
| 22:52:27 | PhrostByte | plotting vertices is the most brain wracking thing i've ever done lol |
| 22:52:32 | CoolMan | lolol |
| 22:52:52 | CoolMan | it takes along time to get used to it, believe me |
| 22:52:54 | PhrostByte | just because i lose track of where they are so easily |
| 22:53:03 | CoolMan | i've been doing 3d modeling since i was 12 |
| 22:53:22 | PhrostByte | i need to make a program with a 3D grid that throws out the verticies automatically for you |
| 22:53:24 | CoolMan | its not easy |
| 22:53:36 | CoolMan | whatever helps |
| 22:53:42 | PhrostByte | yep |
| 22:54:12 | PhrostByte | need to learn how to load up MDL's or MD2's |
| 22:54:25 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 22:54:32 | PhrostByte | speaking of which, you know of a good modeling program for lin? |
| 22:54:41 | CoolMan | no i don't |
| 22:54:42 | PhrostByte | MDL = quake model, MD2 = q2 model |
| 22:54:46 | CoolMan | oic |
| 22:54:58 | CoolMan | do you know if they are text or binary? |
| 22:55:08 | PhrostByte | i dunno |
| 22:55:14 | CoolMan | good to find out |
| 22:55:15 | PhrostByte | i'd think binary |
| 22:55:22 | CoolMan | youd be surprised |
| 22:55:30 | PhrostByte | yea |
| 22:55:43 | PhrostByte | opens up one in advanced editor |
| 22:55:50 | CoolMan | although, if you find a modeling program for linux, please tell me asap |
| 22:55:56 | PhrostByte | yea |
| 22:56:06 | CoolMan | binary? |
| 22:56:24 | PhrostByte | i dunno my friend is bugging me because he can't edit his damned XF86Config-4 file |
| 22:56:30 | PhrostByte | he's delaying me lol |
| 22:56:55 | CoolMan | lol |
| 22:57:16 | PhrostByte | damn he's been using linux longer than me yet he still can't even use CVS |
| 22:57:26 | CoolMan | ahhahaha |
| 22:57:59 | PhrostByte | arg meed tp go d/l |
| 22:58:03 | PhrostByte | pak |
| 22:58:18 | CoolMan | uh ok |
| 22:58:34 | PhrostByte | pak's store all the quake data, MDL's are inside them |
| 22:58:49 | CoolMan | ic |
| 22:59:04 | PhrostByte | hehe <-- hardcore quaker here |
| 22:59:33 | CoolMan | i can tell |
| 23:00:27 | PhrostByte | oh yea, it's binary |
| 23:00:38 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 23:01:14 | CoolMan | well, i know there are oodles of documents about loading quake models |
| 23:01:19 | PhrostByte | but good thing is quake is under the GPL so i can try to grab how it uses them from that |
| 23:02:19 | PhrostByte | hi man_overb |
| 23:02:35 | man_overb | hi |
| 23:02:46 | CoolMan | hey |
| 23:03:17 | man_overb | this console's using linux as an OS right?, sorry i know its a dumb question |
| 23:03:38 | CoolMan | we can't tell from here |
| 23:03:42 | CoolMan | unless... |
| 23:04:14 | CoolMan | oh, AHHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:04:19 | CoolMan | I AM SO STUPID!!!! |
| 23:04:40 | man_overb | what? |
| 23:04:43 | CoolMan | You said stupid question, and i automatically thought of the stupidist question possible! |
| 23:04:54 | PhrostByte | hah |
| 23:04:55 | CoolMan | i thought you were asking about your console! |
| 23:05:09 | man_overb | my console? |
| 23:05:17 | PhrostByte | what are you talking about |
| 23:05:21 | PhrostByte | you using telnet? |
| 23:05:37 | CoolMan | a console is like sitting at your computer |
| 23:05:48 | CoolMan | console vs. remote login |
| 23:05:52 | man_overb | lol oh! |
| 23:05:55 | PhrostByte | heh |
| 23:06:13 | man_overb | i ment TUX |
| 23:06:23 | CoolMan | yeah, its using linux |
| 23:06:37 | CoolMan | believe me, that doesn't seem to be a stupid question |
| 23:06:38 | PhrostByte | console = bash & konsole |
| 23:06:45 | CoolMan | lots of people ask it |
| 23:06:53 | PhrostByte | you serious cool? |
| 23:07:20 | CoolMan | PhrostByte: acually, even a windows computer can be accessed "from the console" |
| 23:07:25 | CoolMan | yeah, i'm serious |
| 23:07:34 | PhrostByte | lol i dunno i've never thought of that being a prob |
| 23:07:36 | CoolMan | i've been asked that > 10 times |
| 23:07:43 | man_overb | so whats the diff between using linux and a custom OS |
| 23:07:53 | PhrostByte | .. they are different |
| 23:07:56 | PhrostByte | lol |
| 23:08:01 | CoolMan | linux is allready made, and we don't have the skill |
| 23:08:22 | CoolMan | sadly gents, i need to go |
| 23:08:27 | PhrostByte | oh your talking about the OS for the TB |
| 23:08:36 | CoolMan | i'll see all of you later |
| 23:08:38 | PhrostByte | later |
| 23:08:40 | man_overb | yeah |
| 23:08:41 | CoolMan | later |
| 23:08:42 | man_overb | later |
| 23:08:59 | PhrostByte | i think it's just a modified linux |
| 23:09:15 | man_overb | i mean couldnt you technically just program for the onboard hardware and skip the whole OS idea |
| 23:09:18 | PhrostByte | nothing major, just has all the unneeded parts taken out i'd think |
| 23:09:49 | PhrostByte | hmm |
| 23:09:54 | PhrostByte | no, not really |
| 23:10:22 | man_overb | why is a primitive OS needed? |
| 23:11:09 | PhrostByte | it's made only for that platform, saving space and optimizations can be made |
| 23:11:20 | PhrostByte | besides it's all but primitive |
| 23:12:00 | man_overb | so basically the OS allows for optimizations of the software |
| 23:12:06 | PhrostByte | yes |
| 23:12:09 | PhrostByte | also |
| 23:12:16 | PhrostByte | you need it to make things easier on the game programmers |
| 23:12:41 | PhrostByte | i don't think people will want to learn how to work with the hardware when the OS is supposed to do it for them |
| 23:12:53 | PhrostByte | so we can just concentrate on the opengl aspect of it |
| 23:13:02 | man_overb | if you werent to make an OS, what would programers have to do? |
| 23:13:13 | PhrostByte | lots of crap |
| 23:13:35 | PhrostByte | make it interact directly with the hardware |
| 23:13:35 | man_overb | i get it now lol |
| 23:13:43 | PhrostByte | instead of goign through the kernel |
| 23:14:12 | PhrostByte | or each game would have to have it's own custom kernel |
| 23:14:31 | man_overb | i see |
| 23:14:35 | man_overb | thanks for the help |
| 23:16:39 | Branman900 | has anyone seen this : http://consoleproject.dreamstation.com |
| 23:27:24 | CoolMoDee | :) |
| 23:28:02 | CoolMoDee | finaly got a half-life cd :) |
