01:05:22 | Diablo-D3 | will brb |
01:37:46 | [57th]cneal | =D |
02:11:49 | Diablo-D3 | heh heh |
03:11:23 | travis|sleep | hello |
03:11:29 | Sakira | hello |
03:11:33 | Sakira | how are yas? |
03:11:47 | travis|sleep | Pretty good, just getting over being sick |
03:11:52 | travis|sleep | and you? |
03:11:57 | Sakira | i foumd you site last night for the tuxbox |
03:12:02 | Sakira | im cool |
03:12:20 | Sakira | like a cold or somthing |
03:12:25 | Sakira | ? |
03:12:26 | travis|sleep | i had the flu |
03:12:31 | Sakira | o shit |
03:12:39 | Sakira | what region you live in? |
03:12:47 | Sakira | i live in md |
03:12:52 | Sakira | its pretty cold |
03:12:56 | travis|sleep | I live in Minnesota, so we would be in the midwest region |
03:13:07 | Sakira | but here everyone is getting some stomach virus |
03:13:18 | Sakira | o |
03:13:27 | Sakira | i didnt get it yet though |
03:13:36 | Sakira | ive been watchin my diet |
03:13:41 | Sakira | i hate getting |
03:13:55 | Sakira | anyways |
03:14:11 | Sakira | so you working on tuxbox? |
03:14:30 | travis|sleep | yes i am |
03:14:33 | Sakira | cool |
03:14:39 | Sakira | what are you doing? |
03:14:42 | travis|sleep | not at the present second, but yes, i do work on it |
03:15:20 | Sakira | whats the differece between an embeded operating system and windows |
03:15:32 | Diablo-D3 | woah people |
03:15:38 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: remember the logo? |
03:15:42 | travis|sleep | oh yeah |
03:15:44 | Sakira | ? |
03:15:50 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: im doing a huge debian logo that way =) |
03:16:00 | Sakira | cool |
03:16:02 | Sakira | a logo |
03:16:15 | Sakira | for what? if you dont mind |
03:16:19 | travis|sleep | Sakira: windows is probably what your computer is running for its OS, i assume you mean linux for the embedded os |
03:16:28 | travis|sleep | Debian is nice |
03:16:31 | Sakira | yeah |
03:16:35 | Sakira | i also have linux |
03:16:38 | travis|sleep | lindows is based off of debian |
03:16:48 | Sakira | but i want to make a little console machine |
03:17:03 | Sakira | debian huh |
03:17:41 | travis|sleep | you want to make what console thing? |
03:17:47 | Sakira | 'i was studying circuit boards and stuff last night pcbs and stuff |
03:17:48 | Sakira | lol |
03:17:50 | Sakira | yeah |
03:18:06 | Diablo-D3 | heh |
03:18:30 | Sakira | um |
03:18:39 | Sakira | i want to do what you guys are cdoing |
03:18:50 | Sakira | oly i want to do it for my class |
03:18:54 | Diablo-D3 | heh |
03:19:01 | Sakira | i have some students at a private school |
03:19:08 | Sakira | interested in electronics |
03:19:25 | travis|sleep | is using internet explorer under linux.... |
03:19:26 | Sakira | and i wanted to get them started on somthing |
03:19:38 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: thats just *wrong* |
03:19:39 | Sakira | im curently working with win dx8 |
03:19:50 | Sakira | and making a little game for them |
03:20:02 | Sakira | next i want it to run on a custom console |
03:20:10 | travis|sleep | Diablow-D3, but M$ must crap their pants when they see IE6.0 OS: Linux on their site stats |
03:20:10 | Sakira | lol |
03:20:23 | Sakira | lol |
03:20:24 | Diablo-D3 | hey, THERE IS NO W THERE |
03:20:52 | travis|sleep | = |
03:20:58 | travis|sleep | ~ =P |
03:23:42 | Sakira | you guys there? |
03:23:54 | Diablo-D3 | Im somewhere |
03:23:58 | Sakira | lol |
03:24:00 | Sakira | ok |
03:24:02 | travis|sleep | i am sorta hear |
03:24:10 | travis|sleep | coding some stuff at the same time |
03:24:17 | Sakira | ii was just wondering how you guys designed your mother board |
03:24:21 | Diablo-D3 | is doing art |
03:24:25 | Sakira | or was it already designed |
03:24:30 | Diablo-D3 | Heh, we have designed a mobo yet? |
03:24:36 | travis|sleep | we dont have a for sure mobo yet, we are still looking for one |
03:24:46 | Diablo-D3 | has yet to see conslusive proof of tuxbox not being the next indrema |
03:24:57 | Sakira | ? |
03:25:07 | Diablo-D3 | The only thing going for it is the word "tux" in the title and my cool logo |
03:25:08 | Sakira | you mean wether its gonna come out? |
03:25:15 | Diablo-D3 | yeah. vaporware. |
03:25:21 | Sakira | aww man |
03:25:26 | Sakira | you guys can do it |
03:25:33 | Diablo-D3 | but, hey, give travis $100, and it might come out |
03:25:36 | Sakira | at least youll have a console |
03:25:45 | Sakira | you dont really need games for it |
03:25:53 | travis|sleep | Diablo-D3: We are trying our best... it takes time, but it isnt just a scam like the indrema |
03:25:56 | Sakira | y you need 100? |
03:26:15 | Sakira | i believe in you |
03:26:20 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: hah |
03:26:20 | travis|sleep | well it would be nice, but I can do without =P |
03:26:24 | Diablo-D3 | dude, like, fix your nick |
03:26:28 | Diablo-D3 | make it just normal travis |
03:26:32 | Diablo-D3 | no |sleep no |away |
03:26:44 | travis|sleep | lol, if you are good i will |
03:27:17 | travis | is that better? |
03:27:22 | Diablo-D3 | yeah |
03:27:29 | Sakira | haha |
03:27:32 | Sakira | weird |
03:27:35 | Diablo-D3 | btw, you can send me $100 |
03:27:40 | Sakira | lol |
03:27:42 | Diablo-D3 | has done lots for the open source community |
03:27:57 | Sakira | i would if i was mr gates |
03:27:57 | Sakira | maybe not |
03:27:57 | Diablo-D3 | Hah |
03:27:59 | Sakira | you linux ruffians |
03:28:05 | Diablo-D3 | hah |
03:28:07 | travis | lol, oh yeah |
03:28:09 | Sakira | jk |
03:28:12 | Diablo-D3 | Naw, Im harmless. Mostly. |
03:28:18 | travis | we are pretty tough, grrr! |
03:28:20 | Sakira | mostly |
03:28:24 | Diablo-D3 | Depends on what mood Im in, and who you work for. |
03:28:25 | Sakira | lol |
03:28:33 | Sakira | nah |
03:28:34 | Sakira | lol |
03:28:40 | Sakira | i hate ms |
03:28:44 | Sakira | not hate |
03:28:47 | Sakira | but dont like |
03:28:52 | travis | hates them |
03:29:00 | Sakira | but i aint so good at linux |
03:29:02 | Diablo-D3 | hates them |
03:29:07 | Sakira | y |
03:29:10 | Sakira | may i ask |
03:29:11 | Diablo-D3 | travis: version me, then shoot me ;) |
03:29:20 | Sakira | lol |
03:29:27 | travis | oh shit!!!! |
03:29:35 | Sakira | what |
03:29:45 | travis | =P |
03:29:54 | Sakira | whats that? |
03:29:59 | Diablo-D3 | hah funny |
03:30:23 | Diablo-D3 | only runs windows for apps that dont get along with wine |
03:30:29 | travis | at least you are using xchat over mirc |
03:30:43 | Sakira | lol |
03:30:43 | travis | i assume PS wouldnt play nice with wine |
03:30:47 | Sakira | x-chat? |
03:30:56 | Diablo-D3 | well, only reason I use xchat is because a) I use it in *nix, and b) mirc6 wasnt out when I installed this |
03:30:58 | travis | www.xchat.org |
03:30:59 | Diablo-D3 | aka no multiserver |
03:32:09 | Sakira | is that like invision or suin? |
03:32:43 | Diablo-D3 | what? |
03:32:50 | travis | no its like an IRC client, cause it is |
03:33:43 | Sakira | so do you guys know anything about electrical enginering? |
03:34:10 | Diablo-D3 | Me? just the basics |
03:34:17 | Diablo-D3 | Like, I can build a circuit board. mostly. |
03:34:18 | travis | not too much, but i have taken multiple electronic classes |
03:34:36 | Sakira | so you know how to design a mobo for a gaming console |
03:34:40 | Sakira | ? |
03:34:46 | travis | oh no, i am not that good |
03:34:50 | Sakira | hmm |
03:35:09 | Sakira | i was reaaaading some sites and it isnt that hard |
03:35:26 | Sakira | just gotta know what pre built components are available |
03:35:59 | Sakira | fuk up a few dozen circuit boards |
03:36:09 | Sakira | aaand vwalah |
03:36:19 | Sakira | a mutha fukin xbox bayby |
03:36:21 | travis | scary |
03:36:30 | Sakira | lol |
03:36:33 | Sakira | yeah |
03:36:36 | Sakira | hahaha |
03:37:30 | Sakira | well besides dx |
03:37:37 | Sakira | that is my next project |
03:37:51 | Sakira | i wanted to do a opengl game |
03:37:59 | Sakira | but i dont know sdl yet |
03:38:17 | Sakira | so im gonna do the dx thing and make the console ogl |
03:38:23 | travis | you dont need sdl for opengl |
03:38:35 | travis | DX?!?!?!?! what?!?! |
03:38:36 | Sakira | for input and stuf?? |
03:38:45 | Sakira | oops |
03:38:50 | Sakira | ;) |
03:38:57 | Sakira | dont shot me |
03:38:59 | travis | DX==M$==SHIT |
03:39:00 | Sakira | i swear |
03:39:06 | Sakira | ms will get no royalties |
03:39:52 | travis | good |
03:40:23 | Sakira | what do you say i should use for inpit |
03:40:35 | Sakira | opengl itself is just a graphics api |
03:40:43 | Sakira | input* |
03:40:56 | travis | use sdl |
03:41:13 | Sakira | lol |
03:41:50 | Sakira | you guys makin money programming? |
03:41:59 | travis | as a career yes\ |
03:42:20 | Sakira | what o you do |
03:42:26 | Sakira | how old are you |
03:42:41 | travis | i am a computer programmer and I am 19 years |
03:42:43 | travis | old |
03:43:06 | [57th]cneal | :D' |
03:43:21 | Sakira | what lang ddo you work with the most |
03:43:31 | travis | visual basic and perl... |
03:43:32 | [57th]cneal | vb |
03:43:37 | [57th]cneal | :D |
03:43:40 | [57th]cneal | Me2 |
03:43:42 | Sakira | cool |
03:43:46 | Sakira | ahahaa |
03:44:33 | travis | off to bed |
03:44:34 | travis | bbl |
03:44:44 | [57th]cneal | btw, whats the status on the Tuxbox? |
03:44:48 | Sakira | you ms dude |
03:44:50 | Sakira | uh |
03:44:59 | Sakira | i guess next to vapor |
03:45:05 | Sakira | thats what diablo said |
03:45:12 | [57th]cneal | Hey, I put my right hand to ms |
03:45:18 | Sakira | are you apart of the team? |
03:45:19 | [57th]cneal | no |
03:45:27 | [57th]cneal | There is in fast stats on the project |
03:45:31 | Sakira | what do you mean |
03:45:34 | Sakira | you right hand? |
03:45:34 | [57th]cneal | stats |
03:45:58 | [57th]cneal | Well, first of all, there are *PICS* of the UI |
03:46:15 | [57th]cneal | and 2nd, theres a pic of the box with all the stuff in it |
03:46:19 | [57th]cneal | thats all I know |
03:46:38 | [57th]cneal | Believe in MS, they are power, they are god? |
03:47:24 | Sakira | lol |
03:47:24 | [57th]cneal | So thats proof that this is not vapor ware |
03:47:27 | Sakira | haha |
03:47:30 | Sakira | o |
03:47:34 | Sakira | i beleive in it |
03:47:43 | [57th]cneal | Yes |
03:47:44 | Sakira | but thats what diablo said |
03:48:11 | Sakira | i wanted to learn to design a mother board for a console |
03:48:24 | [57th]cneal | Well then.. . hes vaporware! |
03:48:24 | Sakira | with cd player and 3d card |
03:48:30 | Sakira | lol |
03:48:42 | [57th]cneal | I think it works too |
03:49:05 | [57th]cneal | the computer parts atleast |
03:50:20 | Sakira | you know about motherboard design? |
03:50:34 | Sakira | sure it will work |
03:50:37 | [57th]cneal | The design as in? |
03:50:38 | Sakira | thats nothing |
03:50:51 | Sakira | if you go with an outside mobo designer |
03:51:00 | Sakira | the hard part is makin games for it |
03:51:10 | Sakira | pcbs |
03:51:16 | Sakira | circuit boards |
03:51:24 | Sakira | components and allthat |
03:52:40 | [57th]cneal | AMPTRON OR PCCHIPS M805LR Motherboard |
03:53:14 | Sakira | shit |
03:53:17 | Sakira | i dont know |
03:53:23 | Sakira | i want to design my own |
03:53:24 | [57th]cneal | ? |
03:53:32 | Sakira | what do those terns mean |
03:53:58 | [57th]cneal | name, version of the motherboard? |
03:55:09 | Sakira | oh |
03:55:11 | Sakira | nah |
03:55:28 | Sakira | i just wanted to know if you were able to custome design one |
03:55:54 | [57th]cneal | That might not be a good idea |
03:56:14 | [57th]cneal | and I think costs alot to do |
03:56:47 | [57th]cneal | because you have to layer it with that stuff and do the wiring all on the computer etc |
04:00:20 | Diablo-D3 | goes afk |
04:03:17 | Sakira | um |
04:03:19 | Sakira | well |
04:03:27 | Sakira | its kinda cheaper |
04:03:32 | Sakira | if you do it right |
04:03:51 | Sakira | actually alot cheaper if you are makin a gaming console |
04:04:24 | [57th]cneal | how much? |
04:05:49 | Sakira | well |
04:06:04 | Sakira | to buy a mother board for a gaming console |
04:06:20 | Sakira | you have to customize it and also have them build it |
04:06:45 | Sakira | cuz as far as i know there is no mobos available to the general public for a gaming console |
04:07:19 | Sakira | o it will be a couple of hundred just to have the base guts designed |
04:07:28 | Sakira | board |
04:07:40 | Sakira | and base componentst |
04:08:07 | Sakira | then youd have to add your own cd motor and laser and cpu in the cpu casing |
04:08:22 | Sakira | and maybe still desing you controlers |
04:08:29 | Sakira | so i think |
04:08:41 | Sakira | actually know its cheaper to make it your self |
04:08:58 | Sakira | once you get it right anyway |
04:09:09 | Sakira | youl fuk up a few boards |
04:09:19 | Sakira | but thats only 20 buks a board |
04:09:32 | Sakira | not relly a thing to develope somthing great |
04:09:57 | Sakira | i was studying this site about taking the guts ou of you nintendo |
04:10:09 | Sakira | and making a portable nintendo |
04:10:27 | Sakira | its cool |
04:10:31 | [57th]cneal | uh |
04:10:38 | Sakira | ? |
04:10:42 | Sakira | want the link? |
04:10:52 | [57th]cneal | turn the nintendo into a tuxbox?? |
04:10:57 | Sakira | no |
04:11:01 | [57th]cneal | oh |
04:11:04 | Sakira | into a portable nintendo |
04:11:13 | Sakira | or a 64 into a portable 64 |
04:11:18 | Sakira | and so forth and so on |
04:11:28 | [57th]cneal | its already portable |
04:11:39 | Sakira | no |
04:11:42 | Sakira | ilol |
04:11:58 | Sakira | like play your old cartriges in a portsable machine |
04:12:04 | Sakira | like gameboy |
04:12:16 | Sakira | except its not |
04:12:25 | Sakira | its your old system striped down |
04:12:29 | [57th]cneal | plug it into a car batterie and wire the controllers to the frame of the nintendo and insteant portable nintendo :D |
04:12:39 | Sakira | lol |
04:12:41 | Sakira | your sik |
04:12:42 | Sakira | haha |
04:14:31 | [57th]cneal | hmm |
04:14:50 | [57th]cneal | so how much will this custom tuxbox mb cost us? |
04:15:36 | Sakira | um |
04:15:45 | Sakira | im not a tux box team member |
04:16:13 | Sakira | but for a console i plane to make it will be around 85 to 100 buks |
04:16:29 | Sakira | with out the 3d card |
04:17:22 | [57th]cneal | how? the mb already costs $75 |
04:19:38 | Sakira | no |
04:19:49 | Sakira | what do you mean |
04:19:55 | Sakira | what mother board |
04:20:05 | [57th]cneal | for the console |
04:20:26 | Sakira | to get a board printed with the schematics cosat about 20 to 25 buks |
04:20:34 | Sakira | oh |
04:20:40 | Sakira | the one the tux is using |
04:20:41 | Sakira | ? |
04:21:12 | [57th]cneal | yea |
04:21:26 | Sakira | oh cool |
04:21:27 | Sakira | lol |
04:21:29 | Sakira | opps |
04:21:36 | Sakira | they made it themselvers? |
04:21:51 | Sakira | or ordered apremade ? |
04:22:04 | [57th]cneal | AMPTRON OR PCCHIPS M805LR Motherboard |
04:22:12 | Sakira | hmm |
04:22:17 | Sakira | how big is it |
04:22:25 | Sakira | like the size of a ps? |
04:22:38 | [57th]cneal | not too big |
04:23:10 | [57th]cneal | I had the size specs somewhere |
04:23:39 | [57th]cneal | maybe the size of a tv scre |
04:23:42 | [57th]cneal | en |
04:24:16 | Diablo-D3 | heh |
04:24:28 | Diablo-D3 | all I want is a laptop mobo |
04:25:02 | [57th]cneal | Size 12" x 8 1/2 |
04:25:55 | Diablo-D3 | seriously, thats all I want |
04:26:45 | [57th]cneal | Dont need a laptop mobo unless you plan to make a large gameboy |
04:26:58 | Diablo-D3 | heh |
04:27:07 | Diablo-D3 | Well, something... |
04:27:27 | Diablo-D3 | we need something small |
04:27:32 | Diablo-D3 | either that... or just a damn 1u case |
04:27:45 | Diablo-D3 | and a micro-atx mobo |
04:27:53 | [57th]cneal | Think of it like the old desktop computers, just a bit smaller since we dont need the extra components |
04:28:14 | Diablo-D3 | didnt you hear me? |
04:28:21 | Diablo-D3 | 1u with micro-atx mobo |
04:30:05 | Sakira | yeah |
04:30:08 | Sakira | what is that? |
04:30:50 | Diablo-D3 | 1 unit tall case |
04:30:55 | Diablo-D3 | with a atx mobo for it |
04:31:23 | Sakira | o |
04:34:20 | Sakira | ok cya later |
04:34:36 | Sakira | gotta do some worlk before be |
04:34:39 | Diablo-D3 | Okay... I think I figured out our case problem |
04:34:45 | Sakira | what |
04:35:06 | Diablo-D3 | heh. this is ment for real tuxbox people, Sakira ;) |
04:35:11 | Sakira | ok |
04:35:17 | Sakira | lol |
04:35:19 | Sakira | cyas |
04:35:29 | Sakira | o |
04:35:41 | Sakira | how can i add a server to a favorites list in mirc |
04:36:06 | Diablo-D3 | uh, dunno. I dont use mirc =) |
04:36:13 | Sakira | o |
04:36:14 | Sakira | ok |
04:36:17 | Sakira | laters |
04:36:46 | Diablo-D3 | isnt anyone awake? |
05:32:42 | Diablo-D3 | needs sleep, night all |
05:44:55 | SavageOne | hello all |
05:45:02 | SavageOne | where can I grab an ISO of the project so far? |
05:50:13 | [57th]cneal | Theres an older version of the UI on coolmans page and the OS is on the sourceforge page but I dont think thats updated yet. |
05:52:41 | SavageOne | k |
05:59:01 | [57th]cneal | ***First Submarine - channel TLC*** |
09:07:58 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm sleep |
10:46:03 | cryptide | sup |
10:50:01 | cryptide | savage, you must be joking |
11:05:34 | TheBear|jobb | wake up! |
11:05:36 | TheBear|jobb | :) |
11:06:53 | TheBear|jobb | i need to talk some buisness with one of the tuxbox project developers |
13:24:02 | TheBear|jobb | hello |
14:22:45 | TheBear|jobb | ! |
15:08:16 | TheBear|jobb | hello, wake up damnit! |
15:43:38 | TheBear|jobb | now? |
16:02:08 | travis|away | hello |
16:07:49 | travis | TheBear:you around? |
16:14:58 | TheBear|jobb | yup |
16:15:02 | TheBear|jobb | morning :) |
16:15:11 | TheBear|jobb | just about to go home now |
16:16:06 | travis | :-( |
16:16:12 | travis | sorry i was at my classes |
16:16:13 | TheBear|jobb | no problem |
16:17:05 | TheBear|jobb | ok, sorry, had a phonecall |
16:17:11 | TheBear|jobb | here is the thing... |
16:18:27 | TheBear|jobb | The Wheel is a unique distribution system for music and information. The system can coordinate audio output across chain stores, independent of store quantity and / or location, or be installed in singular shops, cafés, restaurants etc. |
16:18:35 | TheBear|jobb | our product is called TheWheel |
16:19:06 | TheBear|jobb | it now includes DVD |
16:19:55 | TheBear|jobb | http://www.thewheel.no/wheelinvention/om_wheel_en.htm |
16:20:40 | TheBear|jobb | what i am looking for is to drop the standard pc look of our product and using embedded technologi for making a smaller unit |
16:20:46 | TheBear|jobb | the system is based upon linux |
16:21:25 | TheBear|jobb | your product interest me as it will have the components i need |
16:21:59 | TheBear|jobb | we have 350 units out now |
16:22:23 | TheBear|jobb | we have estimatet about 2000 units within the year |
16:23:19 | TheBear|jobb | you there :) |
16:24:55 | TheBear|jobb | :( |
16:25:24 | travis | i am here |
16:25:28 | TheBear|jobb | good |
16:25:37 | travis | i am on and off, i am at work :-( |
16:25:41 | TheBear|jobb | me too |
16:26:03 | TheBear|jobb | you have any questions |
16:26:05 | TheBear|jobb | ? |
16:26:16 | travis | well not many |
16:26:19 | TheBear|jobb | hehe |
16:26:26 | travis | so you want to goto an embedded system? |
16:26:35 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:26:43 | TheBear|jobb | an you are working on the tuxbox |
16:26:57 | TheBear|jobb | it seems to have the main components i need |
16:27:37 | TheBear|jobb | is it stabile? |
16:27:48 | travis | well we are still working on it |
16:27:53 | TheBear|jobb | i know |
16:28:09 | travis | yeah it is stable |
16:28:24 | travis | but keep in mind there are a lot of gaming related material in the OS |
16:28:24 | TheBear|jobb | if it must be running 24/7 |
16:28:33 | TheBear|jobb | i dont need your os :) |
16:28:37 | travis | oh yeah, it is stable in that sense for sure |
16:29:09 | TheBear|jobb | i need to have it run my perl scripts in a standard linux environment |
16:29:12 | TheBear|jobb | :) |
16:29:30 | travis | oh yeah, just install perl |
16:29:37 | TheBear|jobb | i know :) |
16:29:42 | TheBear|jobb | how is the dvd |
16:29:52 | TheBear|jobb | it seems to be a software solution |
16:30:06 | TheBear|jobb | will the prosessor be fast enought to run it good? |
16:30:19 | travis | no solution yet on the dvd, we are trying our hardest to find a legal software solution.... |
16:30:24 | TheBear|jobb | hehe |
16:30:29 | TheBear|jobb | hardware |
16:30:35 | TheBear|jobb | sigma designs |
16:30:48 | TheBear|jobb | or? |
16:30:59 | TheBear|jobb | that would make it leagal not? |
16:31:14 | travis | it is hw based? |
16:31:17 | TheBear|jobb | ahh |
16:31:21 | travis | does it work under linux is the question.... |
16:31:46 | TheBear|jobb | what is the mpeg2 decoder chipset? |
16:32:51 | travis | we are not using one |
16:32:55 | travis | software based |
16:33:09 | travis | UNLESS we sudenly decide to change GPUs |
16:33:16 | TheBear|jobb | ahh |
16:33:25 | TheBear|jobb | sorry, misunderstood |
16:33:33 | TheBear|jobb | <--- Norwegian :) |
16:34:02 | TheBear|jobb | the hollywood realmagic + runs well |
16:34:09 | TheBear|jobb | on linux |
16:34:21 | TheBear|jobb | it does not cost much |
16:34:31 | TheBear|jobb | $70 |
16:34:32 | travis | that is hardware based? |
16:34:37 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:34:39 | TheBear|jobb | pci |
16:34:58 | travis | do you have a link? |
16:35:03 | TheBear|jobb | yup |
16:35:08 | TheBear|jobb | www.sigmadesigns.com |
16:35:41 | TheBear|jobb | they dont have drivers for it, you need to get "homemade" ones |
16:36:09 | travis | homemade drivers ARE available though? |
16:36:14 | travis | you have a link to those also? |
16:36:28 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:36:40 | TheBear|jobb | wait, need to make a phonecall |
16:37:16 | TheBear|jobb | the quality is perfect with the card |
16:37:30 | travis | how much are they? |
16:38:06 | TheBear|jobb | dxr3.sourceforge.net |
16:39:19 | TheBear|jobb | NOK 643,- |
16:39:39 | TheBear|jobb | wait, find in $ |
16:40:16 | TheBear|jobb | 71,52 |
16:40:19 | TheBear|jobb | in dollar |
16:40:21 | travis | cool |
16:40:25 | TheBear|jobb | that is in norway |
16:40:32 | travis | so, does that act as a video card aslo? |
16:40:35 | travis | ~also |
16:40:40 | TheBear|jobb | nope |
16:40:58 | TheBear|jobb | only DVD, perfect dvd i may add |
16:41:34 | TheBear|jobb | it is cost efficent when you look at what you need in prosessor power to run dvd |
16:41:44 | TheBear|jobb | it wont bother the prosessor at all |
16:42:09 | travis | this card has a tv-out port then? |
16:42:43 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:42:50 | TheBear|jobb | but you can use overlay |
16:42:58 | travis | so does the whole computers screen go out of the TV-OUT? |
16:43:13 | TheBear|jobb | nope |
16:43:42 | travis | how does it work then? |
16:43:51 | TheBear|jobb | 2 ways |
16:44:33 | TheBear|jobb | you can either use the overlay, wich gives you perfect quality on the rgb signal |
16:44:33 | TheBear|jobb | hmm |
16:44:37 | TheBear|jobb | need to think |
16:45:58 | TheBear|jobb | if you have a video card with vidio out, you can route the signal out together with the rgb signal |
16:46:56 | TheBear|jobb | you can have it in full screen or in a window, it wont bother the videocard and give you excelent quality |
16:47:35 | TheBear|jobb | what i am saying is that you only need 1 video out |
16:48:00 | TheBear|jobb | the card takes over when DVD/vcd etc is played |
16:48:22 | travis | cool |
16:48:30 | TheBear|jobb | Provides analog overlay to work with virtually any VGA graphics card |
16:48:37 | TheBear|jobb | there you are :) |
16:48:49 | travis | so i can take a vga-out from my video card into the dvd card and play my computers video on the TV through that? |
16:49:03 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:49:04 | travis | and dvd? |
16:49:07 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:49:09 | travis | nice! |
16:49:20 | TheBear|jobb | noe problem with legal issues |
16:49:32 | travis | so that would eliminate the need of a tv-out card.... |
16:49:40 | TheBear|jobb | hmm |
16:49:42 | TheBear|jobb | no |
16:49:43 | TheBear|jobb | hehe |
16:49:51 | TheBear|jobb | or, hmm |
16:49:54 | TheBear|jobb | no |
16:50:00 | TheBear|jobb | you need a tv-out card |
16:50:13 | travis | i thought that card has tvout? |
16:50:20 | TheBear|jobb | only dvd |
16:50:39 | TheBear|jobb | you can choose, dvd out or throug the graphic card |
16:50:51 | TheBear|jobb | both cases it gives you max quality |
16:51:13 | travis | i am confused |
16:51:16 | TheBear|jobb | hehe |
16:51:20 | TheBear|jobb | i understand |
16:51:22 | TheBear|jobb | hmm |
16:51:29 | TheBear|jobb | im not good at this, ill try again |
16:51:38 | travis | k |
16:51:56 | TheBear|jobb | dvd card sends a signal either to the TV out or to the graphic card |
16:52:06 | TheBear|jobb | the signal is mpeg2 |
16:52:37 | TheBear|jobb | if you choose to send it throught the tv out it will only deliver DVD |
16:52:54 | TheBear|jobb | if you send it to the graphic card it will use overlay |
16:53:22 | TheBear|jobb | then you need to send it from the graphic card to the tv |
16:53:37 | travis | oh ok |
16:53:46 | travis | so that is where the linux dvd players come into play |
16:54:13 | travis | how does the dvd card sent it to the graphic card? |
16:54:21 | TheBear|jobb | loop |
16:54:26 | TheBear|jobb | its loops it throug |
16:54:32 | TheBear|jobb | a cable connects them |
16:54:44 | travis | does your graphic card need vga in then? |
16:55:00 | travis | basically would it work with a GeForce2MX with TV OUT |
16:55:02 | travis | ? |
16:55:07 | TheBear|jobb | yes |
16:56:22 | travis | k cool |
16:56:49 | TheBear|jobb | are you planning on making a commercial product out of the tuxbox? |
16:57:34 | TheBear|jobb | what is your role in the developement |
16:57:56 | travis | i am the founder... |
16:58:07 | travis | rather co-founder |
16:58:17 | travis | yes we would like to sell commercially |
16:58:36 | TheBear|jobb | ahh |
16:58:37 | TheBear|jobb | ok |
16:58:58 | TheBear|jobb | ill buy 2000, ok? ;) |
16:59:09 | travis | =P i would like that |
16:59:55 | TheBear|jobb | http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/em9010.htm |
17:00:01 | TheBear|jobb | this looks interesting |
17:02:23 | TheBear|jobb | http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/em8400.htm |
17:02:25 | TheBear|jobb | this even |
17:02:38 | TheBear|jobb | for you embedded experts |
17:03:47 | travis | =P |
17:03:48 | TheBear|jobb | damn, my wife wants me home... |
17:04:00 | travis | isn't married yet... |
17:04:13 | TheBear|jobb | hehe! |
17:04:39 | TheBear|jobb | how do you finance your project |
17:05:55 | travis | there really isn't too much cost involved at this point, just beta hardware. |
17:06:08 | travis | So we all sorta do things from pocket change |
17:06:23 | TheBear|jobb | ok |
17:09:24 | TheBear|jobb | you know a good link to mini cases for computers? |
17:11:50 | travis | not off hand |
17:14:23 | TheBear|jobb | need to go, se you here tomorrow maby |
17:16:14 | travis | alright, bye |
17:27:41 | travis | hello |
17:54:21 | travis | hello |
18:01:34 | [57th]cneal | Boo |
18:10:26 | travis | word |
18:10:50 | [57th]cneal | byte |
18:11:13 | [57th]cneal | is away: lalalalala |
18:13:38 | [57th]cneal | is away: B&W |
18:15:21 | travis | you are away twice at once... hmmmm |
18:19:09 | [57th]cneal | bah, I hate b&w |
18:19:14 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 00:05:35) |
18:19:36 | [57th]cneal | So whats going on |
18:19:42 | travis | nothing, just workin |
18:19:51 | [57th]cneal | anything new? |
18:20:08 | [57th]cneal | Any special updates? |
18:20:24 | [57th]cneal | :D |
18:21:31 | travis | well working on a DVD solution |
18:21:39 | travis | as in looking into it |
18:21:49 | [57th]cneal | Oh, a solution! |
18:21:57 | travis | hopefully |
18:40:01 | travis | bbl |
19:40:56 | [57th]cneal | is away: Schoooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
19:41:01 | [57th]cneal | l |
19:41:20 | [57th]cneal | is away: is going to schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
21:31:57 | Bakemono | yo yo yo |
21:32:04 | zwampy_ | yoyoyoyoyoyooyoyoy |
21:32:12 | Bakemono|School | travis|sleep!!! |
21:32:39 | travis|sleep | i am sorta here |
21:32:49 | Bakemono|School | I say we start thinking smaller |
21:33:00 | Bakemono|School | just a thought |
21:33:30 | Bakemono|School | Zypheus!!! |
21:33:42 | Zypheus | Yes? |
21:33:42 | zwampy_ | CoolMan have been doing good job man |
21:33:53 | Bakemono|School | nthoin' |
21:33:59 | Bakemono|School | zwampy_: indeed |
21:34:16 | Bakemono|School | I gotta get the heck to school now |
21:34:21 | Bakemono|School | cya'll later |
21:34:24 | Bakemono|School | leaves |
21:34:36 | Zypheus | Okay, This is probably the first time that you've ever seen my name in this community, but I've been watching your project for awhile now and I think I can help. |
21:35:12 | Zypheus | I'm the leader of the FInancial Board for Southbury, Connecticut, and also help with many local companies... |
21:35:29 | Zypheus | I was wondering, if you need financial help, money, ect. I can arrange that... |
21:35:52 | zwampy | We need money ;) |
21:36:02 | Zypheus | From what I've been reading, You need metal molds and such, I have connections to several people that work with molding...Perhaps I could help there as ewll |
21:36:23 | Zypheus | I don't have a great knowledge of Linux...but I am very intersted in your project, and want it to grow. |
21:36:52 | Zypheus | Who is the 'leader' of the project? |
21:37:02 | zwampy | Travis |
21:37:16 | zwampy | |
21:37:28 | zwampy | Im only webdesigner and programmer |
21:37:33 | zwampy | working on new tuxboxproject.com |
21:38:18 | travis|sleep | Bakemono|School: you around still? |
21:38:46 | Zypheus | *nods* |
21:38:50 | travis | howdy |
21:38:54 | Zypheus | Hey. |
21:39:05 | Zypheus | Be right back, phone call. |
21:39:12 | travis | alright |
21:40:49 | zwampy | travis: Zypheus has a money ideas |
21:40:57 | Zypheus | Yeah |
21:41:00 | Zypheus | Read what I said above... |
21:41:43 | Zypheus | If you could e-mail me an outline of the project, goals, ect. tonight I could probably draw up some rough ideas regarding finance |
21:42:35 | travis | i can do that |
21:42:58 | travis | what exactly do you want in the document |
21:44:36 | Zypheus | Just...goals, any technical specifications you already have drawn up |
21:44:43 | travis | Zypheus: where are you located? |
21:44:47 | Zypheus | If you have any specific products in mind for use for the product.. |
21:44:53 | Zypheus | Connecticut, USA |
21:44:58 | travis | Okay. |
21:45:19 | travis | How would you arrange this finanching? |
21:45:38 | Zypheus | Well, it depends on what you need... |
21:45:53 | zwampy | When we have a new webpage (will be up on sunday) and finance draw then we are in much better position |
21:46:03 | Zypheus | *nods* |
21:46:23 | travis | How much money is available? what are the requirements/stipulations? |
21:46:33 | Zypheus | I've spoken to a few supporters or fans of this project, they seem willing to donate, I could setup that kind of thing if you approve... |
21:46:41 | Zypheus | Well |
21:47:05 | Zypheus | There are limits...I just don't know them off the top of my head |
21:47:45 | travis | okay cool |
21:47:55 | travis | That would be great! |
21:47:58 | Zypheus | :) |
21:48:04 | Zypheus | Glad to hear your approval. |
21:48:14 | travis | There are plenty of things the project could use money for |
21:48:21 | Zypheus | *nods* |
21:48:44 | travis | plastic mold and a couple dev units would be awesome! |
21:48:46 | Zypheus | Hmm, Yeah. Please e-mail that documents and any other documents you'd like me to look at to ChapinXB@aol.com |
21:49:08 | travis | ok, so you want project goals and features type of document? |
21:49:14 | Zypheus | Right |
21:49:18 | travis | along with target market, etc. |
21:49:30 | Zypheus | and your estimate of how much it will take to get this ready... |
21:49:34 | zwampy | we need someone to look at the marketing i think |
21:49:35 | Zypheus | Not meaning shipped and all |
21:49:46 | Zypheus | I have a friend who's a marketting major... |
21:49:48 | travis | you just want it in an email or should i type up a document in a ext editor (what format do you want)? |
21:50:06 | Zypheus | .doc is preferable, since I use Word for most things. |
21:50:12 | Zypheus | Just attach it to the email |
21:50:25 | travis | Ok, I am using LindowsOS so i can use Word under linux =P |
21:50:35 | zwampy | :) |
21:50:36 | Zypheus | And please send it to both ChapinXB@aol.com and ChapinXB@msn.com |
21:50:41 | Zypheus | Ah, that's great! |
21:50:51 | Zypheus | Now..Dev units... |
21:51:01 | Zypheus | Since the console is run off Linux... |
21:51:04 | zwampy | btw travis did you talk to Michael R ? |
21:51:11 | Zypheus | It would be just a linux box ? |
21:51:17 | travis | i didnt get a chance to speak to him about linux |
21:51:33 | Zypheus | Or...I don't know much computer lingo...but What are you looking for in a Dev box? |
21:51:37 | travis | Zypheus, well essentially it is a computer, with a very specific OS and components |
21:51:42 | Zypheus | I see |
21:51:44 | Zypheus | Well |
21:51:48 | Zypheus | List out as much as you can |
21:51:53 | travis | alright |
21:52:08 | Zypheus | I'll get back to you on probably Friday or Saturday with your choices of what to do and all |
21:53:03 | Zypheus | :) |
21:53:08 | travis | awesome! |
21:53:25 | Zypheus | Glad you think so. |
21:53:28 | zwampy | travis: isnt time to make a special board for organizing the project? |
21:53:37 | zwampy | Zypheus: you are doing good job |
21:53:47 | travis | zwampy: we are actually working on it |
21:54:00 | zwampy | travis: good, if you need my help ;) |
21:54:03 | Zypheus | :) |
21:54:13 | Zypheus | I've worked with the UOX project for awhile... |
21:54:23 | Zypheus | We created a board, with 10 essential people |
21:54:28 | Zypheus | 2 from each major part |
21:54:31 | travis | cool |
21:54:32 | Zypheus | Programming, Web Design ect. |
21:54:34 | zwampy | cool |
21:54:42 | Zypheus | And now if they want to make changes in anything |
21:54:44 | Zypheus | They have a vote |
21:54:48 | Zypheus | majority rules |
21:55:04 | zwampy | thats cool |
21:55:10 | zwampy | #tuxbox.board ;) |
21:55:56 | Zypheus | :) |
21:56:13 | zwampy | the thing about the tuxbox is that only few people are really doing some stuff |
21:56:19 | Zypheus | *nods* |
21:56:37 | Zypheus | I have a close friend that's into Marketting |
21:57:05 | travis | zwampy: that is true, but there are several people designing games at the time also |
21:57:19 | travis | if you do a search or look at the forums, you will see |
21:57:40 | travis | CoolMan is working on the UI doing a great job, i have written a little code to help him, but now much |
21:57:45 | zwampy | travis: yes i know, and thats good, but there are only few people core of the group |
21:57:53 | travis | that is correct |
21:58:05 | zwampy | CoolMan, you, bakemono |
21:58:13 | zwampy | you = travis ;) |
21:58:25 | travis | i think we could use a few more people to help with other issues like networking and such |
21:58:33 | zwampy | yes |
21:58:41 | zwampy | and we need few people like Zypheus> I have a close friend that's into Marketting |
21:58:41 | zwampy | [21:59] <travis |
21:58:45 | zwampy | bwah |
21:58:51 | zwampy | i start again |
21:59:11 | zwampy | We need few people like Zypheus for marketing and finance |
21:59:27 | travis | that would be nice! |
21:59:31 | zwampy | yes |
22:00:49 | zwampy | thats only my ideas they are little corporative but thats what we need |
22:01:22 | travis | well it would be up to Zypheus |
22:01:58 | travis | if he wanted to join. but i need to go for a little while |
22:02:01 | travis | i will be online later |
22:02:08 | travis | thank you for stopping by guys! |
22:02:18 | zwampy | cya |
22:02:24 | Zypheus | :) |
22:02:26 | Zypheus | Cya |
22:02:29 | travis | buy |
22:02:32 | travis | ~bye |
22:02:36 | travis | =P |
22:02:44 | Zypheus | So okay, My friend whos marketting guy |
22:03:08 | Zypheus | He says that this project needs alot of press, but before that, he says that the website needs to be redesigned, efficent, fast...good looking... |
22:03:10 | Zypheus | All that |
22:03:24 | zwampy | Im working on the new pages |
22:03:35 | Zypheus | Then he can go out and publicize the project, get people involved, media and stuff...just for a week or so to boost the community |
22:04:03 | zwampy | It will be more pro (i work as a designer with school) |
22:04:14 | Zypheus | *nods* |
22:04:31 | zwampy | Zypheus: yes, thats what the projects need |
22:05:00 | Zypheus | I have connections in other open-source dev projects that involve Linux as well...I might be able to get some of them involved... |
22:05:07 | Zypheus | I personally know NOTHING about that kinda stuff |
22:05:57 | zwampy | ok |
22:06:11 | zwampy | you are gonna make a finance doc right? |
22:06:27 | Zypheus | Yes, a response to Travis's report |
22:07:40 | zwampy | ok |
22:07:47 | zwampy | Im looking forward to see that |
22:07:51 | zwampy | cya for now |
22:07:54 | Zypheus | ok |
22:07:56 | Zypheus | Wait |
22:08:01 | zwampy | yes? |
22:08:03 | Zypheus | Is the idea of the "board" finalized? |
22:08:14 | Zypheus | A[[rpoved, ect? |
22:08:16 | Zypheus | approved* |
22:08:26 | zwampy | dont know |
22:08:36 | Zypheus | ok |
22:08:37 | Zypheus | Cya. |
22:08:39 | zwampy | Im gonna try to organize that |
22:08:45 | zwampy | or you can do that |
22:08:55 | zwampy | i tink the project needs it |
22:08:59 | Zypheus | Yes |
22:09:03 | Zypheus | That's a major part. |
22:09:09 | Zypheus | We would hold like weekly meetings and such |
22:09:19 | zwampy | we have one |
22:09:24 | zwampy | but its not doing good |
22:09:30 | zwampy | sunday meeting |
22:09:36 | zwampy | i gotta go |
22:09:37 | Zypheus | Ack |
22:09:39 | Zypheus | Okay |
22:09:40 | Zypheus | bye |
22:09:41 | zwampy | will talk to you soon |
22:53:01 | SavageOne | hello all |
22:56:49 | SavageOne | anyone here? |