| 00:34:42 | sheep3th | alive, dead, when will it be released? |
| 05:12:39 | Snake | hey |
| 05:12:45 | Bakemono | heyo |
| 05:15:08 | Snake | howz it?> |
| 05:16:50 | Bakemono | 'tis god |
| 05:16:52 | Bakemono | 'tis good* |
| 05:16:56 | Snake | good good |
| 05:19:41 | Snake | i got some bad news |
| 05:19:50 | Snake | well to me anywayz |
| 05:20:19 | Bakemono | ? |
| 05:20:21 | Snake | my isp is closing down in 2 months! |
| 05:20:27 | Bakemono | :o |
| 05:20:27 | Snake | and i cant afford to pay for one |
| 05:20:31 | Bakemono | :( |
| 05:20:31 | Snake | so no more internet for me |
| 05:20:39 | Bakemono | you got 2 months to find a job |
| 05:20:43 | Snake | i wont be able to go on the net in like 2 years |
| 05:20:48 | Snake | cause we cant afford it |
| 05:20:52 | Snake | FUCK! |
| 05:21:09 | Snake | find a job? |
| 05:21:10 | Snake | me? |
| 05:21:13 | Bakemono | hai |
| 05:21:14 | Snake | LOL! |
| 05:21:20 | Snake | i would if a could |
| 05:21:24 | Bakemono | :( |
| 05:21:31 | Snake | but i have no work experience |
| 05:21:41 | Snake | and paperruns dont get me shit |
| 05:21:44 | Snake | but ill try |
| 05:21:47 | Snake | it cant be that hard |
| 05:21:53 | Bakemono | starbucks |
| 05:21:57 | Bakemono | starbucks is your friend |
| 05:22:03 | Bakemono | apply everywhere |
| 05:22:04 | Snake | heh |
| 05:22:14 | Bakemono | how old are you? |
| 05:22:17 | Bakemono | still 14? |
| 05:22:17 | Snake | we do have a starbucks here thankfully |
| 05:22:19 | Snake | im 14 |
| 05:22:20 | Snake | yes |
| 05:22:21 | Bakemono | ooo |
| 05:22:23 | Snake | 15 in july |
| 05:22:27 | Bakemono | could be tough |
| 05:22:31 | Bakemono | oh |
| 05:22:33 | Snake | yeah i know |
| 05:22:35 | Bakemono | your only like a month older than me |
| 05:22:38 | Snake | and how old are you? |
| 05:22:43 | Bakemono | 15 in august |
| 05:22:43 | Snake | oh |
| 05:22:53 | Snake | heh |
| 05:23:10 | Snake | august what? |
| 05:23:16 | Bakemono | 30th :o |
| 05:23:19 | Snake | im july 29th |
| 05:23:22 | Snake | :P |
| 05:23:23 | Bakemono | :D |
| 05:23:29 | Snake | so its pretty much a month anywayz |
| 05:23:31 | Snake | heh |
| 05:23:33 | Bakemono | ya |
| 05:23:56 | Bakemono | I'm gonna work on some concept art for this idea I've been working on the past few weeks |
| 05:24:31 | Snake | what idea is this? |
| 05:24:35 | Snake | care to share? |
| 05:24:37 | Bakemono | it's a game |
| 05:24:54 | Bakemono | I think it's pretty cool |
| 05:25:21 | Snake | go on... |
| 05:25:24 | Bakemono | I'm kinda hopin' it'll help me into the game industry |
| 05:25:45 | Snake | ok |
| 05:25:46 | Snake | well |
| 05:25:48 | Snake | whats the game |
| 05:25:54 | Bakemono | the story will be split into 3 parts: "The Present", "The Past", and "The Future" |
| 05:26:01 | Bakemono | in that order |
| 05:26:09 | Snake | like the ninja one |
| 05:26:10 | Snake | heh |
| 05:26:13 | Bakemono | .... |
| 05:26:17 | Bakemono | ?? |
| 05:26:24 | Bakemono | anyways |
| 05:27:05 | Bakemono | The Present deals with 2 completely opposite cultures having to deal with eachother |
| 05:27:24 | Bakemono | the past will be mostly uncovering facts about the world and it's people |
| 05:27:50 | Snake | and the future? |
| 05:27:59 | Bakemono | in "The Future" the people of this world realize that time is against them and things need to be done |
| 05:28:04 | Bakemono | or the future will dark |
| 05:28:18 | Bakemono | there will be alot of martial arts |
| 05:28:23 | Snake | kool |
| 05:28:24 | Bakemono | plenty of kung fu :D |
| 05:28:24 | Snake | lol |
| 05:28:31 | Snake | ive been working ona few game diea myself |
| 05:28:36 | Snake | yeah KUNG - FU! |
| 05:28:50 | Bakemono | every character will have various "style abilities" |
| 05:28:57 | Bakemono | for every martial art style |
| 05:29:20 | Snake | Ninjit-Su, Kung-Fu, Taiji, Ju-Jitsu, Judo |
| 05:29:24 | Snake | Karate |
| 05:29:27 | Snake | and so on? |
| 05:29:41 | Bakemono | which will effect which techniques the characters use and are good with and what they are good at defending against |
| 05:29:42 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 05:29:55 | Bakemono | I'm going to start researching various styles soon |
| 05:30:01 | Snake | kool |
| 05:30:07 | Snake | i can help with that if you want |
| 05:30:08 | Snake | heh |
| 05:30:12 | Bakemono | :) |
| 05:30:18 | Bakemono | I'm going to gather up a research team |
| 05:30:21 | Snake | i found a good book in the library about various styles |
| 05:30:28 | Bakemono | and then hopefully a concept artist or 2 |
| 05:30:48 | Snake | i can do concept art, but i dont got a scanner |
| 05:30:50 | Snake | lol |
| 05:31:01 | Bakemono | let me rephrase |
| 05:31:08 | Bakemono | and then hopefully a _good_ concept artist or 2 |
| 05:31:14 | Snake | LOL! |
| 05:31:18 | Snake | im good boy! |
| 05:31:22 | Snake | just not in MSpaint |
| 05:31:23 | Snake | :P |
| 05:31:44 | Bakemono | and I need to meet with them in person |
| 05:31:51 | Snake | ok im out |
| 05:31:52 | Snake | :P |
| 05:31:58 | Bakemono | so it's easier to express my ideas |
| 05:32:28 | Bakemono | before I went to school I had this jacket on I always where when I ride a motorcycle in this weather |
| 05:32:37 | Bakemono | (it's really cold and windy here now) |
| 05:32:52 | Snake | you ride a motorcycle to school? |
| 05:32:53 | Bakemono | and I looked in a big mirror and got down in a stance and it inspired me |
| 05:33:01 | Bakemono | my dad takes me sometimes |
| 05:33:04 | Snake | oh |
| 05:33:17 | Snake | i havent done kung-fu in ages |
| 05:33:25 | Snake | i cant seem to get into it |
| 05:33:35 | Snake | siu lum gar just isnt my style |
| 05:33:39 | Bakemono | :( |
| 05:34:06 | Snake | i hate been taught hundreds of moves for every situation, i like being taught fight, not how to do cetain moves |
| 05:34:10 | Snake | certain* |
| 05:34:26 | Snake | theres 360 fucking stances, and i knwo for a fact i wont need that many |
| 05:34:32 | Snake | 2-3 is enough |
| 05:35:05 | Bakemono | I've been taught only a few techniques |
| 05:35:10 | Bakemono | maybe 10 |
| 05:35:16 | Snake | are you good at kung-fu? |
| 05:35:19 | Bakemono | but we practice applying them to different situations |
| 05:35:23 | Bakemono | I'm pretty good :) |
| 05:35:26 | Snake | how long have you been doing it? |
| 05:35:31 | Bakemono | almost a year no |
| 05:35:32 | Bakemono | now* |
| 05:35:39 | Snake | i did karate for 3 years |
| 05:35:47 | Bakemono | I'm not a fan of karate |
| 05:35:47 | Snake | and the another half a year in new zealand |
| 05:35:51 | Bakemono | it's too harsh for my tastes |
| 05:35:52 | Snake | and then i joined kung-fu |
| 05:36:04 | Bakemono | my style is a somewhat soft style |
| 05:36:17 | Snake | yeah i prefer soft elegant smooth motion |
| 05:36:20 | Bakemono | :) |
| 05:36:24 | Snake | using enemy power against them |
| 05:36:32 | Snake | moving fast and swift |
| 05:36:46 | Snake | but still strong and fast enough to know down your oponent |
| 05:37:01 | Bakemono | we did power punching last week |
| 05:37:03 | Bakemono | that's always fun |
| 05:37:19 | Snake | power punching? |
| 05:37:42 | Snake | i must learn meditation |
| 05:37:48 | Bakemono | yes |
| 05:37:52 | Snake | kung-fu is useless without the right state of mind |
| 05:38:09 | Bakemono | we learn how to put our whole bodies into punches |
| 05:38:15 | Snake | im trying a new traning technique aswell hopefully soon |
| 05:38:21 | Snake | training* |
| 05:38:32 | Bakemono | so little guys like me can hit harder than big d00ds who don't know of body mechanics |
| 05:38:41 | Snake | yeah |
| 05:38:56 | Bakemono | I'm one of the stronger punchers in my class |
| 05:39:08 | Snake | im going to the gym soon too |
| 05:39:11 | Snake | to get fitter |
| 05:39:13 | Snake | and stronger |
| 05:39:14 | Bakemono | now that the biggest student left the state :o |
| 05:39:20 | Snake | heh |
| 05:39:26 | Snake | kool |
| 05:39:43 | Bakemono | I always end up fucking up my hand |
| 05:39:49 | Snake | lol |
| 05:39:56 | Bakemono | both my pinkies are fubar |
| 05:40:20 | Bakemono | I hit THAT hard :P |
| 05:40:43 | Snake | lol |
| 05:40:51 | Snake | i wouldnt want to fight you then |
| 05:40:51 | Snake | heh |
| 05:41:15 | Snake | one day, ill go train with the shaolin monks at their temples |
| 05:41:25 | Snake | for a year or two |
| 05:41:31 | Bakemono | yes... |
| 05:41:35 | Snake | learn their ways |
| 05:41:57 | Bakemono | :P |
| 05:43:14 | Snake | how much do you pay for your kung-du? |
| 05:43:19 | Snake | kung-fu* |
| 05:43:22 | Snake | lol |
| 05:43:31 | Bakemono | I used to pay 30 a month |
| 05:43:40 | Bakemono | but for some reason I'm doing it for free now :/ |
| 05:43:44 | Bakemono | all my teachers have other jobs |
| 05:43:54 | Snake | i pay $35 NZ a month |
| 05:43:57 | Bakemono | I'm a friend of my teachers son |
| 05:44:04 | Snake | whish is about $15 US |
| 05:44:05 | Bakemono | 35: that's cheap eh? |
| 05:44:07 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 05:44:13 | Snake | yeah its not bad |
| 05:44:14 | Bakemono | err.. |
| 05:44:19 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 05:44:35 | Snake | the err |
| 05:44:43 | Snake | i wanted to take private lessons |
| 05:44:52 | Snake | but thats $80 NZ a a lesson |
| 05:47:32 | Snake | o-well |
| 05:47:34 | Snake | one day |
| 05:47:41 | Snake | one day ill be the best fighter in the world |
| 05:47:42 | Snake | :P |
| 05:47:45 | Snake | probably not |
| 05:47:47 | Bakemono | :o |
| 05:47:59 | Snake | but one day i may have the privilage of fighting you |
| 05:48:01 | Snake | it'd be fun |
| 05:48:04 | Snake | and painfull |
| 05:48:23 | Snake | hopefully a long good fight |
| 05:49:52 | Snake | PAINFUL FOR YOU!!!! |
| 05:49:55 | Snake | MWAHAHAHAHAHA\ |
| 05:51:45 | Bakemono | : | |
| 05:52:06 | Snake | heh |
| 05:52:16 | Snake | i would have to train my ass off to get where you are now |
| 06:01:38 | Snake | anywayz |
| 06:01:47 | Snake | is you game a LGME project bake? |
| 17:26:04 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 17:26:21 | travis_143cw | howdy |
| 17:26:26 | CoolMan | sup my man |
| 17:27:05 | travis_143cw | just got to work from school |
| 17:27:16 | CoolMan | that sux |
| 17:27:37 | CoolMan | man, i have good news |
| 17:27:56 | travis_143cw | tell me tell me!! |
| 17:28:00 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 17:28:17 | CoolMan | i have (i think) fully implemented game cd support |
| 17:28:25 | travis_143cw | nice!!! |
| 17:28:30 | CoolMan | also, smoke no longer needs respawning |
| 17:28:39 | travis_143cw | oh really? |
| 17:28:44 | travis_143cw | that is good |
| 17:28:51 | CoolMan | I was talking to the dudes at #sdl |
| 17:29:04 | CoolMan | and they condemmed the way i was doing things |
| 17:29:11 | travis_143cw | is unistd.h a linux only header? |
| 17:29:23 | CoolMan | i don't know |
| 17:29:40 | travis_143cw | i am not familiar with that one, what is it all about? |
| 17:30:03 | CoolMan | anyway, they suggested i do a daemon-type programming scheme... |
| 17:30:08 | CoolMan | what is what about? |
| 17:30:18 | CoolMan | unistd.h? |
| 17:30:24 | travis_143cw | yeah |
| 17:30:53 | CoolMan | i don't know, and there's no man page on it |
| 17:31:57 | CoolMan | anyway, i learned about fork() and pipe() and now smoke is more stable on my machine! |
| 17:32:35 | CoolMan | and and, i'm almost ready to release new versions! (again) |
| 17:32:43 | [57th]cneal | Yay! |
| 17:32:47 | travis_143cw | excellant! |
| 17:32:48 | CoolMan | heck yeah! |
| 17:33:03 | CoolMan | anyway, sup [57th]cneal? |
| 17:33:11 | [57th]cneal | I'm alive! |
| 17:33:22 | CoolMan | really? that's too bad... |
| 17:33:26 | CoolMan | oh wait! |
| 17:33:28 | CoolMan | uh... |
| 17:33:38 | CoolMan | j/k |
| 17:33:39 | travis_143cw | brb, reboot (in windows here at work) |
| 17:33:44 | CoolMan | cya |
| 17:33:46 | [57th]cneal | Woohoo! |
| 17:33:48 | [57th]cneal | Have fun |
| 17:34:19 | [57th]cneal | Isnt windows so fun |
| 17:34:33 | CoolMan | Windows, the BIOS roller coaster! |
| 17:35:08 | CoolMan | Windows, the only OS that makes you memorize your BIOS serial number! |
| 17:37:25 | CoolMan | Windows, the only OS that makes you memorize your BIOS serial number! |
| 17:38:59 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 17:39:08 | CoolMan | i'm pumped man |
| 17:39:24 | CoolMan | this next release is allready a major improvement |
| 17:39:41 | travis_143cw | sweet |
| 17:40:00 | CoolMan | also, i found out that my linux came with a PDF printer! |
| 17:40:02 | travis_143cw | i think i am actually going to step foot into some game development in my spare time with friends |
| 17:40:14 | CoolMan | so my tutorials will be in PDF! |
| 17:40:33 | travis_143cw | pdf.... |
| 17:40:49 | travis_143cw | bad pdf experiences here at work.... |
| 17:41:04 | CoolMan | well, i think PDF rocks for one reason |
| 17:41:35 | CoolMan | you can include images, text formating, etc. |
| 17:41:35 | CoolMan | and it's all portable! |
| 17:41:48 | travis_143cw | true.... |
| 17:41:53 | CoolMan | it looks the same on linux, windows, etc. |
| 17:42:00 | travis_143cw | yet unpracticle all at the same time!!! |
| 17:42:09 | CoolMan | oh i don't think so |
| 17:42:16 | CoolMan | not much impracticle |
| 17:42:24 | CoolMan | maybe for size |
| 17:42:45 | CoolMan | but i can include zipped versions (PKZip, and TGZ) |
| 17:44:05 | travis_143cw | zipping pdfs dont help too much i dont think |
| 17:44:26 | CoolMan | is doing a size comparison. |
| 17:45:06 | travis_143cw | of what?!??!?! yuck |
| 17:45:14 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 17:45:20 | CoolMan | thinks travis is a nut. |
| 17:45:21 | travis_143cw | is compiling sdl.... |
| 17:45:32 | CoolMan | owch, i wouldn't want to be you... |
| 17:45:45 | travis_143cw | ah, it cant be too bad... |
| 17:45:50 | travis_143cw | no errors... yet.... |
| 17:45:56 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 17:46:11 | travis_143cw | takes a little while though, so who knows |
| 17:46:23 | travis_143cw | must learn sdl |
| 17:46:29 | CoolMan | oh, i just remembered somthing |
| 17:46:46 | CoolMan | the smoke makefile now has dependencies! |
| 17:46:57 | travis_143cw | oh yeah! |
| 17:47:04 | CoolMan | so it will only recompile what it needs to recompile! |
| 17:48:27 | travis_143cw | that is very good |
| 17:48:31 | travis_143cw | for people like me! |
| 17:48:41 | CoolMan | man, it needed to be that way |
| 17:48:52 | CoolMan | it was starting to take upwards of 10 mins to compile! |
| 17:49:45 | travis_143cw | lol, i hate compile times, especially when they get errors at the END |
| 17:50:24 | CoolMan | oh, man, before i set up the depecdancies, if it got an error at the end, it would start ALL OVER! |
| 17:50:56 | CoolMan | (needless to say, this would tick me off when i forgot a ';') |
| 17:53:27 | travis_143cw | lol, yeah! |
| 17:53:33 | CoolMan | lol |
| 17:53:55 | CoolMan | might release this stuff today! |
| 17:54:29 | travis_143cw | will try to find time to start with sdl today |
| 17:54:41 | travis_143cw | will also attempt to compile smoke today too |
| 17:54:50 | CoolMan | you mean start learning to program for it? |
| 17:54:54 | CoolMan | (SDL) |
| 17:55:56 | travis_143cw | yeah... remember i have never done game development for windows |
| 17:56:16 | CoolMan | well, neither have i |
| 17:56:19 | CoolMan | lol |
| 17:56:30 | travis_143cw | i mean for linux |
| 17:56:48 | CoolMan | i haven't done anything for that either |
| 17:57:15 | CoolMan | the only major program i have ever written (besides Smoke) is OpenMAZE |
| 17:57:30 | CoolMan | and that game ran on the GameBoy Color |
| 17:57:57 | travis_143cw | i see |
| 17:57:58 | travis_143cw | brb |
| 17:57:59 | CoolMan | no event handling, no window creation, 8-bit ints, ahhh that was the life... |
| 18:02:46 | travis_143cw | brb now boss wants to talk to me.... |
| 18:02:49 | CoolMan | k |
| 18:06:14 | travis_143cw | has determined that his boss is a complete idiot.... |
| 18:06:54 | CoolMan | passing idoicy down from generation to generation... |
| 18:07:02 | CoolMan | needs to eat his lunch |
| 18:14:12 | CoolMan | mmmmm |
| 18:14:17 | CoolMan | beefarioni |
| 18:17:07 | travis_143cw | nice! |
| 18:17:15 | CoolMan | oh yeah |
| 18:17:41 | travis_143cw | has his nice ham sandwich |
| 18:43:33 | travis_143cw | must smoke.... |
| 18:43:42 | CoolMan | k |
| 18:43:43 | CoolMan | cya |
| 18:58:34 | travis_143cw | back |
| 18:58:51 | CoolMan | is getting ever nearer to releasing... |
| 18:58:59 | CoolMan | i have allready zipped them up |
| 19:04:07 | travis_143cw | excellant |
| 19:17:30 | travis_143cw | is sdl pretty simple to learn? |
| 19:17:46 | Bakemono | yea |
| 19:17:49 | Bakemono | :D |
| 19:18:08 | travis_143cw | k good |
| 19:18:23 | travis_143cw | i may dig into that deeply tonight |
| 19:19:19 | Bakemono | cool |
| 19:19:21 | travis_143cw | i know VB very well, C and C++ i am ok at, just need to practice more... all i do is code boring business apps at work, must get into games! |
| 19:19:31 | Bakemono | :) |
| 19:20:01 | travis_143cw | if i only could compile sdl for my lindows box... |
| 19:20:03 | Bakemono | do you do much oop at work? |
| 19:20:25 | travis_143cw | not too much, VB supports it but it sucks compared to c++ |
| 19:20:44 | travis_143cw | but i am pretty damn good with objects and classes |
| 19:20:55 | Bakemono | ok |
| 19:21:00 | Bakemono | good |
| 19:21:21 | travis_143cw | i write classes whenever possible, so yeah |
| 19:21:32 | Bakemono | ok |
| 19:21:35 | Bakemono | good |
| 19:21:36 | Bakemono | :o |
| 19:22:27 | travis_143cw | i have never done any graphic development, so this shall be interesting... i will probably bang my head against a wall for a while, then wake up one morning and understand it all (like most things i tend to do) |
| 19:22:42 | Bakemono | heh |
| 19:22:45 | Bakemono | I khow the feeling |
| 19:23:09 | travis_143cw | like pointers... they really pissed me off at first, now they are no big deal to me |
| 19:23:10 | Bakemono | I was trying to slap a texture loaded from a png onto a quad last night |
| 19:23:22 | Bakemono | I nearly killed my self |
| 19:23:26 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 19:23:30 | Bakemono | doing the texturing is easy |
| 19:23:30 | travis_143cw | keyword: trying |
| 19:23:36 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 19:23:49 | Bakemono | it was the fact that it was from a png |
| 19:23:50 | Bakemono | and shit |
| 19:23:52 | Bakemono | other shit |
| 19:23:54 | Bakemono | other crazy shit |
| 19:23:56 | Bakemono | that makes me sick |
| 19:23:57 | Bakemono | now |
| 19:24:03 | Bakemono | I must get some breakfast |
| 19:24:30 | travis_143cw | well wait a sec |
| 19:24:52 | Bakemono | iok |
| 19:25:00 | travis_143cw | does all sdl code work in windoze and linux? |
| 19:25:20 | travis_143cw | so me and my homies can make the game cross compatible |
| 19:25:23 | travis_143cw | ??? |
| 19:25:37 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 19:25:43 | Bakemono | :) |
| 19:25:59 | travis_143cw | there doesnt have to be opengl in the code to have it run on TB will it? |
| 19:26:15 | Bakemono | your asking me? |
| 19:26:18 | Bakemono | no |
| 19:26:35 | Bakemono | I don't think so |
| 19:26:52 | travis_143cw | k good, i was under the impression by coolman that it had to be gl, but i was probably wrong |
| 19:26:59 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 19:27:00 | Bakemono | ask him |
| 19:27:04 | Bakemono | I don't know why it would |
| 19:27:22 | travis_143cw | k good |
| 19:27:37 | travis_143cw | cause i want "NP farmyard football" to be on TuxBox |
| 19:27:40 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 19:28:02 | CoolMan | ugh |
| 19:28:04 | Bakemono | woah |
| 19:28:10 | Bakemono | 3 people just joined channels |
| 19:28:19 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 19:28:27 | CoolMan | i just came back acually |
| 19:28:30 | travis_143cw | is getting a little sick of OPing coolman after he signs back on every 2 minutes |
| 19:28:46 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 19:28:46 | CoolMan | i had to fix my X configuration, but i kept screwing up... |
| 19:28:55 | CoolMan | sorry |
| 19:28:56 | travis_143cw | i will forgive you |
| 19:28:57 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:29:19 | CoolMan | you had better, all i have to do is fix the html, and upload to the server |
| 19:29:26 | CoolMan | then all will be released |
| 19:29:38 | CoolMan | HOLY CRAP!!!! |
| 19:30:05 | CoolMan | 1047 People have been here since December 28, 2001 |
| 19:30:11 | CoolMan | from my page |
| 19:30:17 | CoolMan | that's rockin'! |
| 19:30:21 | travis_143cw | nice! |
| 19:30:25 | Bakemono | heh |
| 19:30:26 | Bakemono | nice |
| 19:30:32 | travis_143cw | supa kewl (long story) |
| 19:30:36 | CoolMan | that's the most hits on any page i've ever made |
| 19:30:43 | Bakemono | supa kewl? |
| 19:30:45 | Bakemono | supa fresh yo |
| 19:30:52 | travis_143cw | make a porn site and see what happens coolman =P |
| 19:30:55 | CoolMan | btw, i have it set up so when i hit it, it ignores me |
| 19:30:56 | Bakemono | Supa Fresh(tm) |
| 19:30:59 | travis_143cw | the people will flock! |
| 19:31:04 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:31:20 | CoolMan | acually, i don't know of anybody that want's to see me... |
| 19:31:28 | Bakemono | CoolMan: I have my site set up so when I hit it, it adds 50 to the counter |
| 19:31:29 | travis_143cw | that is what we should do!!! put naked pics of chicks on the TB site to attract new crowds!!! |
| 19:31:52 | travis_143cw | is a genious |
| 19:32:01 | CoolMan | Bakemono: did you write your counter yourself? |
| 19:32:12 | Bakemono | hell yes I did |
| 19:32:15 | Bakemono | who do you think I am? |
| 19:32:21 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: it's genius, genius |
| 19:32:24 | Bakemono | some script kiddie?!1 |
| 19:32:25 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:32:26 | Bakemono | huh?!?! |
| 19:32:38 | Bakemono | did you say something NotSoCoolMan!??!!? |
| 19:32:50 | travis_143cw | SupaCoolMan |
| 19:32:51 | CoolMan | Bakemono: dude, chill |
| 19:32:56 | Bakemono | :P |
| 19:32:57 | CoolMan | i was just askin' |
| 19:33:36 | SupaKewl | we are tight as hell now yo! |
| 19:33:42 | SupaKewl | lol |
| 19:35:36 | travis | anyways... |
| 19:35:53 | CoolMan | is still working... |
| 19:36:11 | travis | Bake: you know that "programming linux games" book? the author is in #sdl all the time, i spoke to him last night |
| 19:36:22 | Bakemono | cool |
| 19:36:35 | Bakemono | checks to see if his ban from #loki has been lifted |
| 19:36:36 | Bakemono | ... |
| 19:36:37 | Bakemono | nope |
| 19:37:08 | travis | why so many people in #loki? |
| 19:37:22 | Bakemono | I don't know |
| 19:39:21 | travis | i wonder when zwampy will finish the site? |
| 19:39:38 | CoolMan | i don't know |
| 19:39:58 | CoolMan | it looks great sofar |
| 19:40:09 | CoolMan | (as long as it works...) |
| 19:40:51 | CoolMan | BTW, guys, I lost the transcript of the last meeting |
| 19:41:10 | CoolMan | because i crashed my console |
| 19:41:17 | CoolMan | and couldn't recover it |
| 19:41:53 | travis | oh well, wasnt huge anyways (if i recall) |
| 19:42:00 | CoolMan | it sucked |
| 19:42:07 | Bakemono|Breakfast | bbiab yo |
| 19:42:09 | Bakemono|Breakfast | need some foodies |
| 19:42:13 | CoolMan | cya |
| 19:43:13 | travis | have fun with the "foodies" |
| 19:43:18 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:43:56 | travis | thinks that is another name for the "munchies".... |
| 19:44:06 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:44:29 | travis | wonder what Bake(d)mono is smoking |
| 19:44:40 | travis | Bakedmono has the munchies! |
| 19:44:43 | CoolMan | lol |
| 19:45:22 | travis | howdy |
| 19:45:41 | jrcow | hello, I'm just looking around |
| 19:45:46 | CoolMan | sup |
| 19:45:47 | jrcow | how's everyone doing |
| 19:45:51 | jrcow | did I miss much? |
| 19:45:53 | travis_143cw | bored at work |
| 19:45:55 | CoolMan | never better |
| 19:46:24 | travis_143cw | how are you jrcow? |
| 19:46:24 | jrcow | I coulda used a bit more sleep :( |
| 19:46:32 | travis_143cw | no kidding!!! |
| 19:46:50 | travis_143cw | i fell asleep having a cigarette this morning... |
| 19:47:03 | travis_143cw | and fell asleep in class once today also |
| 19:47:22 | travis_143cw | i could use some caffiene, but i no longer drink pop :-( |
| 19:47:27 | jrcow | same here! World history is a bore |
| 19:47:43 | jrcow | not allowed to have caffine because of track |
| 19:47:54 | Bakemono | yo |
| 19:48:16 | jrcow | so what's up with the project so far |
| 19:48:28 | CoolMan | i'm about to make a MAJOR release |
| 19:48:39 | travis_143cw | :-) |
| 19:48:58 | CoolMan | Smoke V0.1 ! |
| 19:49:02 | travis_143cw | nice! |
| 19:49:10 | travis_143cw | oh CoolMan... have a Q for ya |
| 19:49:22 | CoolMan | yeah? |
| 19:49:41 | Bakemono | yay for CoolMan! |
| 19:49:46 | jrcow | I want to make one of these tuxbox thingys for myself |
| 19:49:51 | travis_143cw | the games for TB do not have to use openGL do they? |
| 19:49:56 | travis_143cw | could we just use SDL? |
| 19:50:00 | Bakemono | jrcow: and play some LGME games on it! |
| 19:50:02 | CoolMan | no they don't |
| 19:50:14 | travis_143cw | k, i thought you said they had to use it, but nevermind |
| 19:50:17 | CoolMan | they don't even NEED to use SDL |
| 19:50:26 | Bakemono | xlib 0wnZ j00 |
| 19:50:28 | travis_143cw | segfaulted |
| 19:50:35 | CoolMan | all they need to do, is be fullscreen |
| 19:50:41 | travis_143cw | what res? |
| 19:50:44 | travis_143cw | any? |
| 19:50:48 | Bakemono | 640x480? |
| 19:50:48 | CoolMan | 640x480 |
| 19:50:55 | CoolMan | that's TV res |
| 19:51:07 | jrcow | It can't go higher? |
| 19:51:10 | CoolMan | and the only res availiable to the TuxBox X server |
| 19:51:18 | Bakemono | we could always ship the tux boxen with hd tvs! |
| 19:51:18 | CoolMan | jrcow: that is correct |
| 19:51:21 | travis_143cw | alrighty, just checking |
| 19:51:41 | Bakemono | and we will be running X right? |
| 19:51:46 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 19:51:52 | jrcow | are you actually going to be shipping complete systems once there's games on it? |
| 19:51:55 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: the boys from my class and I are planning on starting a game pretty quickly here |
| 19:52:04 | CoolMan | with a WM, just because some progs misbehave without one |
| 19:52:09 | Bakemono | jrcow: I hope we do |
| 19:52:16 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: shweet |
| 19:52:17 | jrcow | or do users have to build their own system and download the games for the system online? |
| 19:52:25 | travis_143cw | hopefully not |
| 19:52:31 | Bakemono | they can do that if they want |
| 19:52:40 | Bakemono | but it'd probably be cheaper to buy it made from us |
| 19:52:50 | CoolMan | and look cooler |
| 19:52:58 | travis_143cw | supa kewl |
| 19:53:01 | jrcow | depends on shipping |
| 19:53:02 | Bakemono | it's an open source project, we will release all the specs and building instructions and stuff |
| 19:53:16 | Bakemono | so you have your choices |
| 19:53:49 | Bakemono | CoolMan: did you say something about smoke0.1? |
| 19:53:54 | jrcow | later on you can set up distributor stations in different places |
| 19:53:59 | CoolMan | Bakemono: yes |
| 19:54:04 | Bakemono | sweet! |
| 19:54:05 | Bakemono | d00d |
| 19:54:07 | [57th]cneal | but you have to build it to the tuxbox specs or it dosent get its official tuxbox sticker |
| 19:54:09 | Bakemono | I gotta check it out tonite |
| 19:54:14 | jrcow | what is smoke 0.1? sorry haven't kept up with this project |
| 19:54:19 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: now Bakedmono is talking about "smoke" and munchies.... i know what he does in his spare time.... |
| 19:54:20 | Bakemono | [57th]cneal: hehe |
| 19:54:25 | Bakemono | jrcow: it's part of the tb |
| 19:54:29 | Bakemono | it's the user interface |
| 19:54:37 | Bakemono | and I'm excited because I'm the main os developer |
| 19:54:58 | jrcow | i c, tuxbox has a specialized version of linux on it right? |
| 19:55:03 | Bakemono | yes |
| 19:55:03 | travis_143cw | Bakedmono: you gonna be around tonight? |
| 19:55:06 | CoolMan | i'm releasing new sshots too |
| 19:55:13 | travis_143cw | good! |
| 19:55:21 | Bakemono | the kernel may go pretty much unmodified, maybe a few special modules here and there |
| 19:55:27 | CoolMan | not really better, just more up2date |
| 19:55:34 | Bakemono | the main thing that will be special is the boot up sequence |
| 19:55:46 | Bakemono | we don't have to check for 23890729842 things because the system specs never change |
| 19:55:56 | Bakemono | and it's not going to boot to a terminal |
| 19:56:08 | Bakemono | it'll boot to either the UI or whatever game is in the tuxbox |
| 19:56:32 | Bakemono | it'll be way slimmed down too |
| 19:56:38 | CoolMan | Bakemono: wait |
| 19:56:42 | Bakemono | CoolMan: go! |
| 19:56:46 | jrcow | will games be on cd-r's |
| 19:56:54 | CoolMan | i am making the ui check for a game when it first starts |
| 19:56:58 | Bakemono | jrcow: hmm, I think |
| 19:57:03 | Bakemono | we talked about dvds |
| 19:57:04 | Bakemono | but... |
| 19:57:07 | CoolMan | to simplify bootup |
| 19:57:17 | travis_143cw | BTW: do we have the automounting of the CDROM or DVDrom completed yet? |
| 19:57:17 | Bakemono | CoolMan: ok, cool |
| 19:57:24 | CoolMan | jrcow: games will be in either DVD CD or TGZ format |
| 19:57:26 | jrcow | it'd raise the cost if it was on dvds though |
| 19:57:36 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: that's just a matter of calling mount |
| 19:57:52 | Bakemono | if there's a CD to be mounted oky doky, if not, that's ok too |
| 19:58:00 | Bakemono | I guess it's up to CoolMan to see if it's a tb game |
| 19:58:02 | Bakemono | :o |
| 19:58:13 | CoolMan | acually, Smoke takes care of mounting too |
| 19:58:25 | travis_143cw | i think we should distribute games on floppy! Quake3 [disk1-348] =P |
| 19:58:35 | Bakemono | CoolMan: why don't you just develope the OS for me |
| 19:58:38 | CoolMan | i've not been slackin' |
| 19:58:39 | Bakemono | while I eat some more food |
| 19:59:01 | Bakemono | actually, I'd rather smoke didn't do any mounting |
| 19:59:12 | travis_143cw | i want chi-chi's..... |
| 19:59:19 | Bakemono | but we'll talk about that |
| 19:59:29 | travis_143cw | i think travis should do the mounting.... oh, we are talking about TB, sorry =P |
| 19:59:39 | CoolMan | Bakemono: well, if you have an idea, speak up man |
| 20:00:03 | Bakemono | I'll just have the kernel try to mount /dev/cdrom everytime the someone closes the door |
| 20:00:19 | Bakemono | which, iirc, is very easy to do |
| 20:00:34 | CoolMan | not good |
| 20:00:44 | CoolMan | because it can't tell the user that the drive is locked |
| 20:00:59 | CoolMan | besides, we don't want the drive locking everytime they put the disk in |
| 20:01:05 | CoolMan | only when they try to run it |
| 20:01:10 | travis_143cw | bake, cool: what do you guys think about basic apps? write frontends to console based apps? or just hack the hell out of current apps available? |
| 20:01:22 | CoolMan | hack |
| 20:01:22 | jrcow | will the tuxbox be able to distinguish audio cd's, dvds , and tgz games? |
| 20:01:32 | CoolMan | jrcow: yes |
| 20:01:35 | CoolMan | that's my job |
| 20:01:49 | travis_143cw | brb smoke break |
| 20:01:52 | CoolMan | somwhat done through smoke allready |
| 20:02:10 | Bakemono | haha |
| 20:02:12 | Bakemono | smoke break |
| 20:02:13 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 20:02:17 | CoolMan | lol |
| 20:05:42 | Bakemono | we don't want to disagree in public eh? |
| 20:05:54 | CoolMan | anyway, i have to go to the gym |
| 20:05:58 | CoolMan | so i should go |
| 20:06:01 | Bakemono | gym eh? |
| 20:06:03 | CoolMan | think about it |
| 20:06:07 | CoolMan | cya |
| 20:06:08 | Bakemono | I will |
| 20:06:10 | Bakemono | BA |
| 20:11:11 | travis_143cw | word |
| 20:11:16 | Bakemono | nibble |
| 20:11:19 | Bakemono | I' |
| 20:11:31 | Bakemono | I'm going to go show off my rpg engine to this dood tommorow |
| 20:11:40 | Bakemono | trying to skip a couple CS classes |
| 20:11:46 | Bakemono | hopefully it'll go well :) |
| 20:11:51 | travis_143cw | sweetness |
| 20:12:32 | Bakemono | ya |
| 20:15:48 | travis_143cw | i get to go home in 10 minutes, yay! |
| 20:15:59 | Bakemono | yay! |
| 20:15:59 | jrcow | cool |
| 20:16:08 | travis_143cw | then i must goto the bank quick then take a small nap, i am so tired |
| 20:16:12 | jrcow | take a nice long nap for me, will ya? :) |
| 20:16:32 | travis_143cw | for sure! knowing me, i probably wont wake up until tomorrow morning |
| 20:16:34 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: what did you do at work today? |
| 20:16:46 | travis_143cw | talk in IRC and play with sdl |
| 20:17:12 | Bakemono | :) |
| 20:17:18 | jrcow | I wish I had your job :) |
| 20:17:30 | travis_143cw | i did do a little work for the project i am supposed to be working on also, but i am waiting for savi to finish her part so i can move on... |
| 20:17:34 | Bakemono | no you don't |
| 20:17:36 | Bakemono | he uses vb |
| 20:17:47 | Bakemono | savi? |
| 20:17:49 | Bakemono | that a chick? |
| 20:17:57 | travis_143cw | yeah, i am forced to use VB... |
| 20:18:10 | jrcow | aw, you poor thing :( |
| 20:18:18 | travis_143cw | savi is almost straight from India and her english is horseshit... and no, she is not hot |
| 20:18:38 | Bakemono | BAH |
| 20:18:44 | jrcow | when I first saw vb, I liked it because of how easy it was to drag and drop compared to just hardcoding |
| 20:18:49 | travis_143cw | she doesnt know the language that well AND she cant speak it worth crap |
| 20:18:49 | Bakemono | BAH |
| 20:18:54 | jrcow | but it's just no fun at all |
| 20:19:05 | Bakemono | I'm supposed to give a speech for my japanese final |
| 20:19:08 | travis_143cw | VB is the reason i smoke, that and my girlfriend |
| 20:19:12 | Bakemono | hajimemashite |
| 20:19:16 | Bakemono | konban wa |
| 20:19:28 | Bakemono | watashi no namae wa Bakemono desu |
| 20:19:32 | jrcow | hehe |
| 20:19:41 | Bakemono | Watashi wa juyon-sai desu |
| 20:19:54 | Bakemono | Watashi wa Pootolando ni sunde imas |
| 20:19:58 | jrcow | NewsFlash : Microsoft and Big Tobacco related *gasp* |
| 20:20:05 | Bakemono | Watashi wa gakusee desu |
| 20:20:09 | jrcow | oh no, not the Japanese again |
| 20:20:12 | jrcow | :< |
| 20:20:13 | travis_143cw | Suzuki: stop speaking your japenese crap |
| 20:20:41 | jrcow | ditto |
| 20:20:42 | Bakemono | Getsuyoobi ni gakkoo e ikimas |
| 20:20:58 | Bakemono | Daigaku wa Gureshamu ni arimas |
| 20:21:34 | travis_143cw | ........... |
| 20:21:35 | Bakemono | kyu-ji ni uchi ni kaerimasu |
| 20:22:10 | Bakemono | Watashi no shumi wa coompuutaa purooguramig desu |
| 20:22:17 | jrcow | bakemono: read the lgme channel |
| 20:22:19 | Bakemono | Watashi wa sushi ga suki desu |
| 20:22:21 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 20:22:22 | Bakemono | reading |
| 20:22:24 | jrcow | mcmoo looking for you |
| 20:22:47 | jrcow | sorry guys, but I got to go. See you guys around |
| 20:22:51 | Bakemono | later |
| 20:22:56 | travis|away | seeya |
| 20:26:55 | zwampy | Hello |
| 20:27:01 | Bakemono | yo yo |
| 20:27:06 | Bakemono | how's the site coming? |
| 20:30:50 | nickels | hello people |
| 20:30:52 | nickels | who is here |
| 20:36:03 | nickels | is anyone here |
| 20:37:59 | zwampy | yes |
| 20:38:20 | nickels | someone is alive, that is good to know :) |
| 21:06:25 | nickels | what up bake |
| 21:07:01 | nickels | travis you here |
| 21:27:46 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 21:27:53 | CoolMan | anybody in here? |
| 21:28:17 | CoolMan | bah |
| 21:29:13 | CoolMan | sup man |
| 21:29:31 | Bakemono|School | school :( |
| 21:29:32 | Bakemono|School | brb |
| 21:29:33 | Bakemono|School | piss |
| 21:29:37 | CoolMan | k |
| 21:30:49 | Bakemono|School | back |
| 21:30:55 | CoolMan | sup |
| 21:31:01 | CoolMan | other than school |
| 21:31:08 | Bakemono|School | nothin' much |
| 21:31:20 | CoolMan | i released Smoke |
| 21:31:23 | CoolMan | and DGI |
| 21:31:27 | Bakemono|School | downloaded some 1337 slack 8.0 isos y |
| 21:31:27 | Bakemono|School | o |
| 21:31:41 | CoolMan | and everything, i'm making a news post about it now |
| 21:31:47 | CoolMan | sweet man |
| 21:31:59 | CoolMan | did you ever get smoke to work? |
| 21:32:00 | Bakemono|School | for jrcow actually |
| 21:32:02 | Bakemono|School | yeah |
| 21:32:03 | Bakemono|School | I did |
| 21:32:03 | zwampy | Hi CoolMan |
| 21:32:11 | CoolMan | hey z man |
| 21:32:13 | Bakemono|School | I will get the latest version tonite |
| 21:32:17 | Bakemono|School | hopefully |
| 21:32:26 | CoolMan | hehe, "hopefully" |
| 21:32:28 | Bakemono|School | I might not have too much time |
| 21:32:46 | CoolMan | i got some Qs about how you wanted to do the mounting thing |
| 21:33:04 | Bakemono|School | shoot |
| 21:33:07 | Bakemono|School | I got about 5 minutes |
| 21:33:11 | CoolMan | like, how will it unmount |
| 21:33:31 | CoolMan | and, how will it know what part of smoke to send the signal to? |
| 21:33:49 | CoolMan | and how will it know when it would be a bad idea to mount the disk? |
| 21:33:55 | Bakemono|School | smoke can put it's pid in a file |
| 21:33:59 | Bakemono|School | like /var/smokepid |
| 21:34:32 | CoolMan | if you wanted to do it that way, it could be done with pipes |
| 21:34:37 | CoolMan | but that's not the piont |
| 21:34:40 | CoolMan | point |
| 21:34:44 | Bakemono|School | BAH |
| 21:34:46 | Bakemono|School | no pipes |
| 21:35:09 | CoolMan | smoke won't even know what part of it will be ready to accept the signal (if any part is ready) because it's so complicated |
| 21:35:17 | CoolMan | pipes are the clean way of doing things |
| 21:35:22 | Bakemono|School | make it less complicated? |
| 21:35:55 | Bakemono|School | how would pipes be better than what I just described? |
| 21:36:21 | CoolMan | it's just cleaner |
| 21:36:30 | CoolMan | who's to say the file won't get cleaned up |
| 21:36:37 | CoolMan | or corrupted |
| 21:36:50 | CoolMan | or if the kernel tries to read while smoke's writing |
| 21:36:54 | CoolMan | etc.etc |
| 21:37:04 | Bakemono|School | BAH |
| 21:37:04 | zwampy | I love Debian :D |
| 21:37:08 | Bakemono|School | I gotta get to school |
| 21:37:18 | CoolMan | anyway |
| 21:37:25 | CoolMan | really quick |
| 21:37:50 | CoolMan | my way is allready implemented, and does not exclude non-dedicated development machines |
| 21:38:04 | CoolMan | (ones that do not have your OS on them) |
| 21:38:07 | Bakemono|School | FINE |
| 21:38:12 | Bakemono|School | we'll do it your way for now |
| 21:38:22 | CoolMan | hey, dude, i'm just sayin' |
| 21:38:38 | Bakemono|School | :P |
| 21:38:42 | Bakemono|School | I really gotta go now |
| 21:38:43 | Bakemono|School | later |
| 21:38:44 | CoolMan | i'm not trying to make a bad |
| 21:38:47 | CoolMan | k |
| 21:38:50 | CoolMan | later dude |
| 21:38:51 | Bakemono|School | leaves |
| 21:38:57 | Bakemono|School | peace |
| 21:39:05 | CoolMan | i'm still looking forward to an OS release |
| 21:39:08 | Bakemono|School | and lots of free promiscuous lovce |
| 21:39:32 | CoolMan | is also looking forward to a shower after the gym... |
| 21:43:37 | zwampy | lol |
| 21:43:42 | CoolMan | lol |
| 21:43:46 | CoolMan | hey zwampy |
| 21:43:57 | CoolMan | did you ever get Smoke working? |
| 21:44:09 | zwampy | didnt have time working on it |
| 21:44:14 | CoolMan | oic |
| 21:44:52 | CoolMan | is leaving to take a shower |
| 21:44:59 | zwampy | and my video card is lame |
| 21:45:03 | zwampy | in my linux box |
| 21:45:10 | CoolMan | mine too man |
| 21:45:15 | CoolMan | i have a voodoo3 pci |
| 21:45:21 | CoolMan | i like it tho |
| 21:45:28 | CoolMan | even tho it's old |
| 21:45:29 | zwampy | I have TNT2 |
| 21:45:34 | zwampy | In my Windows box |
| 21:45:36 | CoolMan | owch |
| 21:45:42 | CoolMan | TNT2's sucked |
| 21:45:43 | zwampy | and some lame in my Linux box |
| 21:45:50 | CoolMan | oh well, i have to go |
| 21:45:53 | CoolMan | cya |
| 21:45:54 | zwampy | cya |
| 21:55:07 | nickels | hello |
| 22:22:55 | travis|sleep | howdy |
| 22:23:56 | travis|sleep | off to read a book for a bit |
| 22:30:28 | travis|sleep | hello |
| 22:31:03 | Diablo-D3 | hey |
| 22:31:14 | travis|sleep | how are you? |
| 22:31:29 | travis|sleep | anything I can help you with? Any questions? |
| 22:32:08 | Diablo-D3 | Just wandering back here. |
| 22:32:20 | Diablo-D3 | Coolman wants me to show up on sunday for the meeting |
| 22:32:27 | CoolMan[Shower] | hey |
| 22:32:31 | travis|sleep | ok, thats cool, that would be great |
| 22:32:37 | travis|sleep | CoolMan: wb |
| 22:32:46 | CoolMan | thx |
| 22:32:53 | CoolMan | i released them |
| 22:32:54 | Diablo-D3 | CoolMan: heh |
| 22:33:06 | travis|sleep | did you make a TBP.com post? |
| 22:33:17 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 22:33:29 | travis|sleep | ah, let me look |
| 22:33:45 | CoolMan | hey Diablo-D3 |
| 22:34:04 | CoolMan | what do you know about X windows programming other than SDL and opengl? |
| 22:34:33 | Diablo-D3 | goes back to lighting his tuxbox on fire for using nvidia hardware |
| 22:35:00 | Diablo-D3 | CoolMan: less than I probably should |
| 22:35:10 | CoolMan | any pointers? |
| 22:35:15 | CoolMan | links? |
| 22:35:31 | CoolMan | cause i know nothing, and i'm going to need to know somthing real soon |
| 22:35:44 | travis|sleep | nvidia, ati..... lol, dont want to start the video card war again... =P |
| 22:36:00 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: its like commercial vs free. and this is tuxbox. |
| 22:36:18 | CoolMan | acually, travis, he has some other points that are better than that |
| 22:36:23 | Diablo-D3 | travis|away: and dont dare argue with me that nvidia is better than ati. Otherwise Ill just have to kick your ass very hard. |
| 22:36:31 | Diablo-D3 | And several times, too. |
| 22:37:00 | CoolMan | ati made the gfx hw for gamecube |
| 22:37:17 | Diablo-D3 | Well, eh, but the gamecube sucks =/ |
| 22:37:25 | CoolMan | d00d, you suck |
| 22:37:30 | CoolMan | gamecube rocks |
| 22:37:33 | Diablo-D3 | notes the last good console ever was the super nintendo |
| 22:37:43 | CoolMan | ok, whatever |
| 22:37:58 | CoolMan | I have spen near $600 on my gamecube, and I'm loving it |
| 22:38:02 | CoolMan | acually |
| 22:38:06 | Diablo-D3 | Heh. |
| 22:38:15 | CoolMan | the gamecube is why i'm working on the Tuxbox |
| 22:38:17 | Diablo-D3 | Well, I dunno, the gamecube might get away from nonsuck soon |
| 22:38:35 | Diablo-D3 | All it needs is super nintendo quality games and not n64 quality games. |
| 22:38:46 | Diablo-D3 | n64 was a kiddie box. |
| 22:38:59 | Diablo-D3 | if nintendo does that again, they are toast. They loose like sega did. |
| 22:39:05 | CoolMan | i'll agree that the software has not been very good (with a few exceptions) since snes |
| 22:39:20 | CoolMan | but the hardware is rocking it up |
| 22:40:45 | Diablo-D3 | the thing is... |
| 22:40:49 | Diablo-D3 | sega proved hardware means shit |
| 22:40:54 | Diablo-D3 | look at the sega saturn |
| 22:40:58 | Diablo-D3 | more powerfull than the psx |
| 22:41:02 | CoolMan | anyway, do you know of any rescources where i can find out about "normal" XWindows programming? |
| 22:41:05 | Diablo-D3 | but alot of the games sucked. |
| 22:41:11 | Diablo-D3 | CoolMan: rtfm? ;) |
| 22:41:18 | CoolMan | saturn has no power!!! |
| 22:41:18 | Diablo-D3 | games sucks == dead platform. |
| 22:41:24 | Diablo-D3 | saturn had _alot_ of power |
| 22:41:31 | CoolMan | no 3d gpu |
| 22:41:34 | CoolMan | none |
| 22:41:36 | CoolMan | nata |
| 22:41:50 | Diablo-D3 | Uh, no. |
| 22:42:10 | CoolMan | the graphics sucked in comparison |
| 22:42:15 | Diablo-D3 | Not really |
| 22:42:21 | Diablo-D3 | the games sucked |
| 22:42:26 | Diablo-D3 | there were only a handfull of good games |
| 22:42:32 | Diablo-D3 | like, the whole panzer dragoon series. |
| 22:42:41 | CoolMan | (well, i'm guessing about the gpu thing, because it was doing like, no shading, or anything) |
| 22:42:43 | Diablo-D3 | panzer dragoon was a unbelivably good game. |
| 22:42:55 | Diablo-D3 | um, no, saturn can do textures. |
| 22:43:01 | CoolMan | i know |
| 22:43:08 | Diablo-D3 | and okay shading |
| 22:43:09 | CoolMan | but i thought that was all software |
| 22:43:18 | Diablo-D3 | it had a gpu of sorts |
| 22:43:18 | travis|sleep | is compiling sdl for a second time today.... |
| 22:43:25 | Diablo-D3 | the psx doesnt have that much of a gpu |
| 22:43:36 | CoolMan | it has better |
| 22:43:48 | CoolMan | anyway... |
| 22:43:53 | Diablo-D3 | with the psx and the saturn, they had the equivalent of the snes's fx chip |
| 22:44:05 | CoolMan | doesn't want to get sucked into a console war. |
| 22:44:07 | Diablo-D3 | It didnt do 3d, but it did all the massive calculations for 3d for it. |
| 22:44:13 | Diablo-D3 | heh this isnt a war. |
| 22:44:19 | Diablo-D3 | saturn was a better console hardware wise. |
| 22:44:21 | CoolMan | lol, you know what i mean |
| 22:44:31 | Diablo-D3 | but if the games suck, that kills a platform. |
| 22:44:38 | Diablo-D3 | Thats why saturn died. Thats why dreamcast died. |
| 22:44:43 | Diablo-D3 | Thats why sega is _dead_ |
| 22:44:58 | Diablo-D3 | And nintendo is making the exact same damn mistake. |
| 22:45:03 | CoolMan | acually, they have become quite a good 3rd party developer |
| 22:45:09 | CoolMan | sega |
| 22:45:20 | Diablo-D3 | Yeah, but thats not really sega. |
| 22:45:30 | Diablo-D3 | Its called sega, it has some of the same employees. but its not sega. |
| 22:45:47 | Diablo-D3 | its just some little software developer now. |
| 22:45:52 | CoolMan | same games, same game developers, that's all i care about |
| 22:46:04 | Diablo-D3 | Wasnt sega releasing a game on the gamecube? |
| 22:46:07 | CoolMan | i like sega games man |
| 22:46:22 | CoolMan | sega is releasing buttloads of them for the GC and GBA |
| 22:46:29 | Diablo-D3 | Yeah, thats a good thing |
| 22:46:41 | Diablo-D3 | nintendo and sega need to pair up to kill sony and microsoft. |
| 22:46:47 | CoolMan | lol |
| 22:46:50 | CoolMan | i agree |
| 22:46:53 | travis|sleep | loves DC |
| 22:47:07 | Diablo-D3 | I dunno, I might wanna see a mario and sonic game sometime |
| 22:47:10 | CoolMan | then we will have "NinSega Windows" |
| 22:47:13 | CoolMan | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 22:47:20 | Diablo-D3 | too bad we cant have square make it. |
| 22:47:44 | CoolMan | Square Windows, now theres a good idea... |
| 22:47:51 | Diablo-D3 | No idiot |
| 22:47:55 | CoolMan | lol |
| 22:47:55 | travis|sleep | my house has square windows |
| 22:48:03 | Diablo-D3 | square do a sonic and mario rpg game. |
| 22:48:04 | CoolMan | no oval windows? |
| 22:48:10 | CoolMan | or triangle windows? |
| 22:48:16 | travis|sleep | we have some octagon ones |
| 22:48:30 | Diablo-D3 | a sonic and mario game would be cool. |
| 22:48:37 | CoolMan | yes, it might |
| 22:48:56 | CoolMan | i can't chat anymore guys |
| 22:49:01 | Diablo-D3 | Have some weird unexplainable portal bridge the demensions between mobius and the mushroom kingdom. |
| 22:49:08 | CoolMan | i need to get to work on the tuxbox game tutorial |
| 22:49:14 | Diablo-D3 | Heh. |
| 22:49:22 | CoolMan | has a confession to make. |
| 22:49:27 | travis|sleep | oh no! |
| 22:49:35 | Diablo-D3 | Heh, I wish I could do a stargate type of thing |
| 22:49:39 | travis|sleep | runs and hides in the corner covering his butt |
| 22:49:59 | CoolMan | got Sonic the Hedgehog comic books for years when I was a little kid. |
| 22:50:07 | Diablo-D3 | CoolMan: Heh. So? |
| 22:50:16 | CoolMan | travis_143cw = Sicko |
| 22:50:24 | travis_143cw | heh, i have Insane Clown Posse comic books, that is about it.... |
| 22:50:36 | Diablo-D3 | CoolMan: Ive read most of them |
| 22:50:49 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: i am on minimal sleep, give me a break =P |
| 22:50:50 | CoolMan | ok |
| 22:50:54 | CoolMan | lol |
| 22:51:09 | travis_143cw | sdl installed! yay! |
| 22:51:15 | Diablo-D3 | I also use to run an irc channel called #sonic on efnet. |
| 22:51:22 | CoolMan | who is pumped about the SpiderMan Movie? |
| 22:51:32 | travis_143cw | eh, sorta |
| 22:51:38 | travis_143cw | :-) |
| 22:51:39 | CoolMan | sorta?! |
| 22:51:50 | Diablo-D3 | Heh. |
| 22:51:54 | CoolMan | d00d, that looks like the phatest movie since Matrix |
| 22:52:05 | Diablo-D3 | heh. no, the phatest movie since the matrix is mr. |
| 22:52:19 | CoolMan | mr.? |
| 22:52:24 | Diablo-D3 | maxtrix reloaded |
| 22:52:26 | CoolMan | never heard of it |
| 22:52:35 | CoolMan | uhh, what's the diff? |
| 22:52:54 | Diablo-D3 | thats like asking the difference between anh and esb |
| 22:53:03 | Diablo-D3 | or esb and rotj |
| 22:53:11 | CoolMan | what are those? |
| 22:53:21 | Diablo-D3 | a new hope, empire strikes back, return of the jedi. |
| 22:53:36 | CoolMan | ummmm, the Star Wars movies sucked |
| 22:53:39 | CoolMan | well |
| 22:53:50 | CoolMan | the old ones weren't aws bad |
| 22:53:51 | Diablo-D3 | Yes, and mara jade skywalker is hot, whats your point? |
| 22:54:12 | CoolMan | mara jade skywalker? |
| 22:54:31 | Diablo-D3 | yeah, mara jade finally married luke. |
| 22:54:36 | CoolMan | is lost in lucas' convoluted mind. |
| 22:54:55 | Diablo-D3 | mara jade isnt lucas's idea |
| 22:55:08 | CoolMan | since when was luke groundrunner married?! |
| 22:55:29 | Diablo-D3 | since about... eh.. I think around rotj+18 |
| 22:55:33 | CoolMan | oh, my bad "puke groundrunner" |
| 22:56:04 | CoolMan | rotj+18, now all is clear |
| 22:56:13 | CoolMan | all i had to do was believe in myself |
| 22:56:18 | Diablo-D3 | Heh. Return of The Jedi plus 18 years. |
| 22:56:24 | CoolMan | and let the force flow through me |
| 22:56:29 | Diablo-D3 | Or, 18 years after Return of The Jedi. |
| 22:56:29 | CoolMan | Weeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:56:50 | Diablo-D3 | Anyhow, back to your original thing, matrix reloaded is the 2nd movie in the matrix trilogy. |
| 22:57:02 | CoolMan | whoa |
| 22:57:21 | CoolMan | i thought you were talking about that re-release of matrix onto DVD |
| 22:57:35 | CoolMan | wonders if that was matrix revisited... |
| 22:57:38 | Diablo-D3 | No. |
| 22:57:40 | Diablo-D3 | Its the 2nd movie. Where have you been? |
| 22:57:56 | CoolMan | under this cozy rock, you have a url? |
| 22:58:26 | Diablo-D3 | You probably dont know they are seriously thinking about an hong kong influenced anime style cartoon series |
| 22:58:31 | Diablo-D3 | whatisthematrix.com |
| 22:58:58 | CoolMan | i thought they were allready making it |
| 22:59:03 | CoolMan | the cartoon thing |
| 22:59:20 | CoolMan | http://www.whatisthematrix.com |
| 22:59:20 | Diablo-D3 | I dunno, I havent been paying attention to the cartoon. |
| 22:59:50 | Diablo-D3 | I wonder if thematrixis.com is still up |
| 23:02:44 | CoolMan | there aren't any trailers for it yet?! |
| 23:03:00 | Diablo-D3 | Dont think so |
| 23:03:13 | CoolMan | then what's the scoop? |
| 23:03:45 | Diablo-D3 | it wont be out until the end of this year anyhow |
| 23:03:55 | CoolMan | it's out that soon?! |
| 23:04:00 | CoolMan | w0w! |
| 23:04:04 | Diablo-D3 | yeah, why? |
| 23:04:24 | travis_143cw | where are all the header fils in linux stored? |
| 23:04:25 | CoolMan | just been waiting for it for awhile |
| 23:04:41 | CoolMan | in /usr/include |
| 23:04:45 | travis_143cw | k thank you |
| 23:05:05 | CoolMan | i have to be away now |
| 23:05:21 | CoolMan | i have werk to due |
| 23:05:25 | Diablo-D3 | heh |
| 23:05:27 | CoolMan | cyall |
| 23:05:29 | Diablo-D3 | work sucks |
| 23:05:33 | travis_143cw | later man |
| 23:05:43 | CoolMan[Coding] | work rocks man |
| 23:05:58 | CoolMan[Coding] | at least, when it's work for the TuxBox Project |
| 23:06:43 | Diablo-D3 | I just realized something |
| 23:06:49 | Diablo-D3 | tuxbox needs a controller. |
| 23:06:55 | CoolMan[Coding] | no it doesn't |
| 23:07:12 | Diablo-D3 | then its not a console. |
| 23:07:15 | CoolMan[Coding] | we have one allready |
| 23:07:24 | Diablo-D3 | or are we trying to make it a falure? |
| 23:07:32 | Diablo-D3 | we do? |
| 23:07:36 | CoolMan[Coding] | *we have a controller* |
| 23:07:44 | CoolMan[Coding] | yes we do |
| 23:07:48 | Diablo-D3 | dont say usb ps2 controllers, or im gonna kick your ass. |
| 23:07:58 | travis_143cw | no ps1 |
| 23:08:00 | travis_143cw | JK |
| 23:08:04 | CoolMan[Coding] | umm, usb ps2 controllers |
| 23:08:11 | Diablo-D3 | hah |
| 23:08:24 | travis_143cw | why the hell would we use them when we can use NES controllers just fine? |
| 23:08:24 | CoolMan[Coding] | acually, it's USB Logitech WingMan RumblePad |
| 23:08:33 | CoolMan[Coding] | lol |
| 23:08:47 | Diablo-D3 | bah. |
| 23:08:59 | Diablo-D3 | We need a cool controller that we can mass buy |
| 23:09:16 | Diablo-D3 | and have an already built driver in 2.4 |
| 23:09:23 | CoolMan[Coding] | ummmm |
| 23:09:28 | CoolMan[Coding] | there is none |
| 23:09:54 | Diablo-D3 | Exactly. There is a problem there. |
| 23:10:18 | Diablo-D3 | We also need to have our gaming api to be able to support all of it. |
| 23:14:58 | arog | 'ello 'ello |
| 23:15:12 | arog | long see no time |
| 23:15:13 | CoolMan[Coding] | hey |
| 23:15:14 | travis_143cw | arog! |
| 23:17:31 | arog | travis: you're here |
| 23:17:36 | travis_143cw | that i am |
| 23:17:41 | travis_143cw | how have you been man? |
| 23:17:44 | arog | you have a little bit of time? |
| 23:17:49 | travis_143cw | sure |
| 23:17:51 | arog | i have been busy as hell |
| 23:18:01 | CoolMan[Coding] | hey arog |
| 23:18:03 | travis_143cw | me too |
| 23:18:22 | CoolMan | i've heard alot about u, nice to meet you |
| 23:23:22 | Diablo-D3 | goes afk |
| 23:25:19 | arog | was that me you were talking to coolman? |
| 23:25:25 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 23:25:28 | arog | sorry, chatting with travis |
| 23:25:36 | CoolMan | not a prob |
| 23:25:36 | arog | nice to meet you |
| 23:25:48 | arog | i am very close to being able to devote a good portion of my time |
| 23:25:50 | CoolMan | same here |
| 23:25:52 | arog | to tuxbox project again |
| 23:25:56 | CoolMan | awesome! |
| 23:26:25 | CoolMan | i was told you wrote the current TB page |
| 23:26:29 | travis_143cw | hey arog, nickels is in here also, but he isnt talking |
| 23:26:42 | CoolMan | i'm liken it man, the news system is the bomb |
| 23:26:55 | arog | the one i threw together? |
| 23:27:02 | CoolMan | lol, yeah |
| 23:27:05 | arog | it needs some work, i think |
| 23:27:16 | arog | i am actually hoping to redo the site soon |
| 23:27:21 | CoolMan | at least, i don't know that anyone has touched it |
| 23:27:24 | CoolMan | really? |
| 23:27:42 | CoolMan | that would be good, if just because it's getting kind of old... |
| 23:27:45 | arog | well, it will require some discussion at a later time |
| 23:27:52 | travis_143cw | sunday? |
| 23:27:54 | arog | but i want to clean it up |
| 23:27:58 | arog | this sunday is bad |
| 23:28:02 | travis_143cw | damn |
| 23:28:03 | arog | i will be skiing in w.v. |
| 23:28:07 | travis_143cw | nice! |
| 23:28:09 | arog | here's the deal... |
| 23:28:26 | arog | i have a pretty busy schedule for the next 2+ weeks |
| 23:28:35 | arog | after that, things should be calm for a while |
| 23:28:49 | CoolMan | we have been having dev team meetings every sunday starting at 1:00 ESY |
| 23:28:50 | travis_143cw | crap, have to go eat... i will be back shortly |
| 23:28:51 | CoolMan | EST |
| 23:28:52 | arog | i am only taking one class next quarter |
| 23:28:56 | travis_143cw | everyone stay here! |
| 23:28:57 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 23:29:00 | travis_143cw | brb |
| 23:29:01 | arog | travis |
| 23:29:06 | arog | mmm |
| 23:29:08 | arog | okay |
| 23:29:23 | CoolMan | it would be great if you could come to some meetings arog |
| 23:29:25 | Diablo-D3 | is back |
| 23:29:26 | arog | anyway, i would like to get you moved over to tuxboxproject.com/coolman or something |
| 23:29:33 | CoolMan | me? |
| 23:29:40 | arog | yeah |
| 23:29:42 | CoolMan | that would be good |
| 23:29:57 | arog | kind of get these people working on the projects moved over |
| 23:29:58 | CoolMan | just because i'm afriad sourceforge would be mad at me |
| 23:30:06 | arog | bandwidth or what? |
| 23:30:07 | CoolMan | one thing |
| 23:30:23 | CoolMan | well, i have had over 1000 hits in 2 months |
| 23:30:39 | CoolMan | but, would i have a cgi-bin i could use? |
| 23:30:44 | arog | you can have all the hits you want on tuxboxproject.com, i work for the isp |
| 23:30:52 | CoolMan | that's good |
| 23:30:59 | arog | you can have that |
| 23:31:09 | arog | perl, php, etc. we are all linux |
| 23:31:17 | CoolMan | also, i designed the HTML to be very portable |
| 23:31:28 | arog | it's killing me not being able to go to the meetings |
| 23:31:39 | CoolMan | that does suck |
| 23:31:56 | CoolMan | but, have you had the chance to check some of my meager contributions? |
| 23:32:01 | CoolMan | Smoke and DGI? |
| 23:32:17 | arog | i just did look at the screenshots |
| 23:32:35 | CoolMan | the graphics suck, but that's because i will work on that last |
| 23:32:42 | arog | anyway, you can have full control over your subdomain |
| 23:32:51 | CoolMan | ftp or scp? |
| 23:32:53 | arog | i would like us to have a common look to the pages, but whatever |
| 23:33:02 | arog | we'll have to talk about that |
| 23:33:10 | CoolMan | i don't care personally |
| 23:33:17 | arog | i don't know how i am going to implement this yet |
| 23:33:18 | CoolMan | but i have to use scp for sourceforge |
| 23:33:26 | arog | the problem is we only have 1 login name / password |
| 23:33:30 | arog | and i don't want everyone to have it |
| 23:33:36 | CoolMan | for admin? |
| 23:33:39 | arog | so i may just make some kind of uploader page |
| 23:33:43 | arog | yeah, admin |
| 23:33:49 | CoolMan | d00d, no uploader page |
| 23:33:57 | arog | i know, but what can i do? |
| 23:33:58 | CoolMan | those are the pit |
| 23:34:13 | arog | i will write it myself, most likely, so we'll see |
| 23:34:20 | CoolMan | can there be multiple accounts? |
| 23:34:36 | arog | not the way it's currently setup |
| 23:34:38 | CoolMan | like, user accounts? |
| 23:34:56 | arog | i may actually setup a box here for tuxboxproject.com and some other domains i have |
| 23:35:00 | CoolMan | well, tuxboxproject.com isn't a seperate server right? |
| 23:35:04 | arog | then i will have more control over that |
| 23:35:07 | arog | no, it's not |
| 23:35:33 | arog | it's on a server with 8000+ dialups, 1000+ dsl accts, and 1000+ domains |
| 23:35:37 | CoolMan | i was considering hosting my own stuff, but sadly, my IP address changed with every packet |
| 23:35:48 | CoolMan | changes |
| 23:35:53 | CoolMan | with every packet |
| 23:36:21 | arog | well, we can talk about this more in depth as i get closer to being able to do all this |
| 23:36:29 | arog | where in the country are you located? |
| 23:36:34 | CoolMan | ohio |
| 23:36:38 | CoolMan | central ohio |
| 23:36:49 | CoolMan | you? |
| 23:36:50 | arog | WTF?? |
| 23:36:52 | arog | what city? |
| 23:37:00 | CoolMan | pataskala |
| 23:37:03 | arog | ugh |
| 23:37:12 | CoolMan | just east of columbus |
| 23:37:13 | arog | i am down in athens, going to OU |
| 23:37:20 | CoolMan | in ohio?! |
| 23:37:22 | arog | yeah |
| 23:37:41 | arog | lemme go look at a map real quick... |
| 23:37:41 | CoolMan | i'm not familier with where athens is |
| 23:38:16 | arog | one county to the right and 3 counties down |
| 23:38:21 | arog | to the right of you is muskingam |
| 23:38:24 | arog | below that is meigs |
| 23:38:30 | arog | err |
| 23:38:34 | CoolMan | is getting a map |
| 23:38:46 | arog | morgan |
| 23:38:49 | arog | below that is athens counts |
| 23:38:51 | arog | county |
| 23:40:13 | arog | actually, 2 counties down |
| 23:40:15 | CoolMan | haha |
| 23:40:26 | CoolMan | i see your collage |
| 23:40:36 | CoolMan | i'm in licking county |
| 23:40:42 | arog | i don't plan on being here for all that much longer however |
| 23:40:51 | arog | i am looking for a job in San Fran right now |
| 23:41:01 | arog | with the intention of moving there in June or so |
| 23:41:08 | CoolMan | bah |
| 23:41:14 | CoolMan | the place to be is ohio |
| 23:41:23 | arog | isn't it nice having nearly 70 degree weather one day, and then snowstorms the next??? |
| 23:41:38 | CoolMan | definatly interesting... |
| 23:41:47 | CoolMan | i was mad tho, we got no winter |
| 23:41:58 | arog | not i, i don't like cold weather |
| 23:41:59 | CoolMan | i like snow, and winter sports |
| 23:42:23 | arog | i never liked winter sports much until i started skiing last year |
| 23:42:32 | CoolMan | skiing is the bomb |
| 23:43:52 | arog | gosh, i can't believe it's been almost a year since i started this site |
| 23:43:57 | CoolMan | lol |
| 23:44:05 | arog | (looking at my news admin stuff right now) |
| 23:44:07 | arog | how cute |
| 23:44:13 | CoolMan | i just joined the project at the end of last november |
| 23:44:37 | CoolMan | i've been doing my best for it since |
| 23:45:07 | arog | you've done some cool stuff so far |
| 23:45:14 | arog | i am glad to see bake on the team, too |
| 23:45:14 | CoolMan | thx |
| 23:45:23 | travis_143cw | back |
| 23:45:26 | CoolMan | he's a great asset |
| 23:45:29 | CoolMan | WB |
| 23:45:35 | arog | that's one of the reasons i am anxious to get back into this |
| 23:45:37 | travis_143cw | heh, you said asset |
| 23:45:41 | travis_143cw | thanks coolman |
| 23:45:53 | arog | i see that things are starting to happen again |
| 23:46:05 | travis_143cw | oh yeah |
| 23:46:08 | arog | travis: just found out that coolman is like a 30 min drive from me |
| 23:46:15 | travis_143cw | oh really?!?!?! |
| 23:46:17 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: did you know that arog lives just south of me?! |
| 23:46:18 | travis_143cw | thats cool |
| 23:46:21 | CoolMan | lol |
| 23:46:27 | CoolMan | it is cool |
| 23:46:34 | arog | so, if he really messes stuff up, haa haa haa |
| 23:46:40 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: what i did here is that arog lives about 30min away from you |
| 23:46:42 | CoolMan | aaaa, noooo |
| 23:46:57 | travis_143cw | coolman, dont make arog make a house call! |
| 23:47:08 | travis_143cw | he'll do it! oh yes, he will! |
| 23:47:15 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 23:47:22 | arog | remember this: http://www.tuxboxproject.com/picture_pages.php |
| 23:47:24 | arog | haa haa haa |
| 23:47:30 | travis_143cw | lol hell yeah |
| 23:47:34 | CoolMan | haha, me and my spring loaded BB pistol will keep arog away |
| 23:47:36 | travis_143cw | me in my GREEN suit |
| 23:47:49 | CoolMan | i'm checking... |
| 23:47:55 | arog | is it green or blue? |
| 23:48:04 | travis_143cw | green! |
| 23:48:23 | CoolMan | ahhaha |
| 23:48:28 | CoolMan | that's awesome! |
| 23:48:41 | CoolMan | how old are those pics? |
| 23:48:44 | travis_143cw | arog, we for sure need to start a new pictures page, i have so many funny pics |
| 23:49:03 | arog | yeah, we've had member changes, too |
| 23:49:14 | travis_143cw | got a digital cam a while back |
| 23:49:24 | arog | me, too |
| 23:49:34 | CoolMan | i don't :( |
| 23:49:45 | travis_143cw | i have too many little toys |
| 23:49:53 | travis_143cw | i have 2 palm pilots for some reason |
| 23:49:58 | CoolMan | travis! what's with that picture of you?! |
| 23:50:00 | CoolMan | lol |
| 23:50:31 | CoolMan | i need to press my face on the scanner... |
| 23:50:31 | travis_143cw | i was at a concert a few years back.... i do really dumb things all the time, sometimes i goto concerts in that bright green plastic suit |
| 23:50:50 | travis_143cw | that pic was taken years back though |
| 23:51:07 | CoolMan | that's cool |
| 23:51:31 | CoolMan | brb |
| 23:51:40 | CoolMan | hey Wizord! |
| 23:51:43 | Wizord | hello |
| 23:51:46 | travis_143cw | wb Wizord |
| 23:51:53 | Wizord | hi |
| 23:52:32 | CoolMan | back |
| 23:52:49 | Wizord | I'd just read the last transcript |
| 23:53:37 | Wizord | I'd think something about the hardware |
| 23:54:13 | Wizord | I think the Ati Radeon may be a better choice than nVidia |
| 23:54:23 | arog | uh oh... |
| 23:54:42 | Wizord | 'cause of the proprietary nVidia drivers |
| 23:54:57 | CoolMan | that's what Diablo-D3 says |
| 23:55:00 | travis_143cw | gets "GPU war" flashback!!! |
| 23:55:02 | Wizord | otoh, Radeon has hardware support for mpeg-2 decoding |
| 23:55:37 | Diablo-D3 | someone say my name? |
| 23:55:38 | CoolMan | open source drivers mean better drivers |
| 23:55:48 | Diablo-D3 | btw, ive been saying, use a raedon 7500 |
| 23:56:01 | Diablo-D3 | everything is already there to support it |
| 23:56:03 | Wizord | I agree with you in that, Diablo-D3 |
| 23:56:16 | travis_143cw | is being backed into a corner |
| 23:56:27 | CoolMan | i don't have enough experience to have an opinion |
| 23:56:29 | Diablo-D3 | fbcon and dri module is already in 2.4 |
| 23:56:38 | Diablo-D3 | xf4 server module is already in xf4 |
| 23:56:46 | Diablo-D3 | and it uses mesa as the gl lib. |
| 23:56:56 | CoolMan | but, i have not heard a good case for the nvidia... |
| 23:56:59 | Wizord | there are big differencies between nVidia proprietary drivers and the standard XFree86 ones |
| 23:57:28 | Wizord | XFree86 driver doesn't support hardware access to OpenGl |
| 23:57:41 | Diablo-D3 | er, what? |
| 23:57:50 | Diablo-D3 | wtf you smoking? |
| 23:57:52 | Wizord | it's about nVidia |
| 23:58:06 | Diablo-D3 | is using hardware accelerated gl right now! |
| 23:58:14 | Wizord | i'll repeat |
| 23:58:19 | CoolMan | i use hw accel gl all the time |
| 23:58:25 | Wizord | for nvidia, there are two different drivers |
| 23:58:34 | Wizord | the ones distributed with xfree |
| 23:58:37 | Diablo-D3 | er oh nvidia only |
| 23:58:40 | Wizord | and the proprietary distributed by nvidia |
| 23:58:47 | Diablo-D3 | yeah, the open source nvidia drivers are the minimum required. |
| 23:59:01 | Diablo-D3 | just enough to get 2d working |
| 23:59:07 | Wizord | the opensource nvidia drivers doesn't support hardware accelerated opengl |
| 23:59:07 | Diablo-D3 | almost same way with matrox. |
| 23:59:10 | Wizord | that's what i said |
| 23:59:16 | Diablo-D3 | Matrox has their own driver version, open source, but kinda big. |
| 23:59:29 | Wizord | and I think it may be troubling to re-distribute nvidia proprietary drivers with tuxbox |
| 23:59:33 | Diablo-D3 | you can do 2d and 3d fine with matrox's in-x drivers |
| 23:59:46 | Diablo-D3 | it isnt that much of trouble. |
| 23:59:57 | Wizord | why not? |
| 23:59:59 | Diablo-D3 | But I dont like nvidia because they fucked up like that |