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00:08:26Bakemonodamn it travis_143cw
00:08:30Bakemonowhere the fuck did you go?!
00:18:00BakemonoI'm going to murder you travis
00:54:27Bakemono..
01:24:07Bakemono: i'm not following you...
01:24:07Bakemonoibot: qoute travis_143cw
01:24:09Bakemonobah
01:24:17travis_143cw was last seen on #tuxboxproject 1 hours, 46 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: brb [Sun Feb 24 23:37:47 2002]
01:24:17Bakemonoibot: seen travis_143cw?
01:26:06BakemonoBAH
03:38:47Snakeanyone alive?
04:22:34travis_143cwword
04:23:41Snakehey
04:29:03Snaketravis?
04:33:46travis_143cwyes?
04:34:04Snakehave you got the measurements yet?
04:34:58travis_143cwwill pretend he wasn't just asked that
04:36:32Snakewell
04:36:55Snakeits pretty hard to make a working version of the tuxbox without something to put it in...
04:37:14travis_143cw12x12x12 give or take 12 inches either dimension
04:37:19travis_143cw=P
04:37:30Snakelol
04:38:16Snakeill ask in the forums for anyone who has the specifide specs
04:38:16travis_143cwsnake, look, i dont have one built, nobody has a complete one yet, so nobody knows the size, not even me.  i am not keeping it a secret and exploit it at a party or on slashdot, i honestly dont know the size, but i will personally email you right when i find out
04:38:21Snakeand if they can measure them
04:38:36travis_143cw=P
04:38:41Snakei knwo you dont know
04:38:43Snakei trust you
04:38:46travis_143cwlol
04:38:51Snakebut i just ask now and again to make sure
04:38:58travis_143cwdo you think i am hiding it and keeping it secret?
04:39:06Snakeno i dont
04:39:12travis_143cw=P k
04:39:22travis_143cwwell sleep time for me
04:39:25travis_143cwi have school in the morn
04:39:28Snakeok
04:39:30Snakegoodnight
04:39:44travis|sleepbye, g'night
04:39:49Snakenight
05:26:51[57th]cnealwb
05:27:51[57th]cneal:o
05:28:37[57th]cnealis away: sleep
06:57:19Bakemonohey
06:57:26Snakehey
06:58:57Snakehows it?
11:07:11Bakemonohe's alive!
11:07:25travis|sleepand about to goto work! =P
11:07:28Bakemonolast thing I remember you saying was "brb"
11:07:34Bakemonoand then I waited
11:07:41Bakemonofor hours upon hours
11:07:51travis|sleeplol, sorry i was attempting to rastle with sdl
11:07:55BakemonoI cryed, I laughed, I went pee
11:08:03Bakemonoand then
11:08:21Bakemonoand then I had a revalation
11:08:24BakemonoI did something else
11:08:35travis|sleepyou rub one out or something....
11:08:37travis|sleepJK
11:08:43Bakemono:P
11:08:49Bakemonomake that 2
11:09:11Bakemonoloves the complete and utter misuse of the work revelation
11:09:22travis|sleepwait a minute.... never do that thinking about me again!!!
11:10:22Bakemono>
11:10:24Bakemono?
11:10:28Bakemonolol
11:10:29Bakemono:P
11:11:17travis|sleepdriving my new car to work and school today!!!!
11:13:04travis|sleepcya
16:11:57zwampyhello
16:33:06travis_143cwhey
16:35:32zwampydid you look at the new idea?
16:35:58travis_143cwyes i beleive so
16:36:14zwampyhttp://www.ground-unit.com/tb.gif
16:36:23zwampyyou didnt like it?
16:36:56travis_143cwit looks good, but who is the girl?
16:37:17zwampyi found it on some image page
16:37:20zwampyfree to use :)
20:02:54travis_143cwhey bake
20:03:11Bakemonoyo yo yo
20:03:14Bakemonowhat up in da hood
20:03:23travis_143cwnm dawg, you?
20:03:26Bakemonocould you hop in #lgme so I don't have to jump around?
20:03:33Bakemonojust da sky
20:03:37travis_143cwwhat the hell is lgme?
20:03:56Bakemonolittle green men entertainment
20:03:58Bakemono:o
20:04:05Bakemonodevelopers of a tuxbox title!
20:04:05travis_143cwk
20:04:08travis_143cwnice
20:09:04zwampyOH SOLE MIO
20:29:01Bakemonointeresting
20:29:11Bakemonowhosp
20:29:11zwampyyes
20:29:12zwampyvery
20:29:18Bakemonowrong channel :o
22:10:59Diablo-D3Anyone awake?
22:20:16Diablo-D3hey wake up in here
22:25:06Diablo-D3CoolMan: anyhow...
22:25:11CoolManhey
22:25:20Diablo-D3Yeah, as I was saying in #sdl earlier.... tuxbox might work
22:25:28Diablo-D3But it probably wont with its current setup.
22:25:36CoolManwhy not?
22:25:43Diablo-D3nvidia hardware.
22:25:49CoolMannote: the hardware page is totally screwed up
22:25:56Diablo-D3Heh.
22:26:06Diablo-D3Well, it should read "ATI Radeon 7500"
22:26:08CoolManwhat's wrong with nvidia hardware?
22:26:24Diablo-D3what, besides the fact that they use propritary drivers?
22:26:35CoolManthat's not a problem
22:26:39CoolManbelieve me
22:26:41Diablo-D3thats a huge problem.
22:26:52CoolManwhy?
22:27:13Diablo-D3ati doesnt, and the raedon series meets or exceeds anything nvidia puts out.
22:27:34CoolManati has official open drivers?
22:27:40Diablo-D3duh.
22:27:48Diablo-D3the fbcon driver comes with the kernel
22:27:56Diablo-D3the x server module comes with x
22:27:59CoolManhmmm
22:28:15CoolManit does opengl hardware accel with X?
22:28:16Diablo-D3and the dri stuff comes with the kernel
22:28:20Diablo-D3yes
22:28:24Diablo-D3well, except for the 8500
22:28:28CoolManand the driver is official?
22:28:28Diablo-D3which is basically raedon 2.
22:28:33Diablo-D3the driver is fully offical.
22:28:46CoolManis there a tv-out version?
22:28:49Diablo-D3the 8500 3d stuff is being worked on.
22:28:52Diablo-D3And yeah, there is.
22:29:06CoolMancan we get it cheap?
22:29:16Diablo-D3cheaper than that shit nvidia hardware
22:29:23CoolManwholesale?
22:29:46Diablo-D3well, comparitivly
22:29:54CoolManhmmm
22:29:57Diablo-D3probably. ask ati.
22:30:06CoolMancan you be in this channel next sunday?
22:30:06Diablo-D3they make the board and the chip both.
22:30:18Diablo-D3instead of what nvidia does, chip, and reference board
22:30:20CoolManat 1:00 EST?
22:30:32Diablo-D3Uh, maybe
22:30:42Diablo-D3You might have to come and get me
22:30:44CoolManif you could, that would be a great help
22:30:53Diablo-D3Why, btw?
22:31:15CoolManyou have good points, but it would be best if you could present them yourself rather than me try to present your points
22:31:25Diablo-D3Its not like what Im telling you is a big secret or anything.
22:31:42CoolManat the TuxBox development team meeting
22:31:57CoolMani know, it's just, you would be better able to answer questions
22:32:38Diablo-D3I mean, the only people that run nvidia hardware are those people who either run windows (ati windows drivers suck ass) or those people who think that the raedon 1 cant do that pixel shader stuff
22:32:46Diablo-D3or whatever it is that nvidia pimps all the time.
22:33:04CoolManhmmm
22:33:08Diablo-D3Which, btw, for the record, the raedon 1 can do fine
22:33:18Diablo-D3Its just that nvidia is being a bunch of bastards about it
22:33:24CoolManhow full is the opengl comlience?
22:33:29Diablo-D3it uses mesa.
22:33:31CoolMancomplience?
22:33:43CoolManmesa is just an implementation of opengl
22:33:47CoolManright?
22:33:49Diablo-D3You cant get much more compliant than using mesa.
22:34:02Diablo-D3Yeah
22:34:04CoolManok, i think i get it
22:34:08Diablo-D3well, its _the_ implementation
22:34:17Diablo-D3for linux and fbsd and such, that is.
22:34:19CoolManit uses mesa, hardware accelerated
22:34:42Diablo-D3Yep. it uses mesa for the gl library, and it has its own dri module in the kernel tree already.
22:34:50CoolManif i do opengl in linux i'm using mesa?
22:34:52Diablo-D3Just like 3dfx, matrox, s3, and the res.
22:34:57Diablo-D3Yep, you're using mesa
22:35:02Diablo-D3well, unless you use nvidia stuff
22:35:15Diablo-D3which uses its own (pretty shitty) closed source library.
22:35:17CoolManwhat about tdfx, what's that?
22:36:27CoolManthat's the voodoo driver, right?
22:37:12CoolManhello?
22:37:36DiabloD3gggrrar
22:37:38DiabloD3<Diablo-D3> tdfx... eh, doesnt sound familiar.
22:37:40DiabloD3--- Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
22:37:48CoolManoh
22:38:01CoolManit has to do with voodoo
22:38:11DiabloD3hmm
22:38:13CoolMani'm running a voodoo 3 pci
22:38:30CoolManand periodicaly, tdfx will cause a sig 11
22:38:34DiabloD3yeah, tdfx is the old glide shit
22:38:42DiabloD3which mesa, iirc, can use as a backend.
22:39:05CoolManhmmm
22:39:11Diablo-D3Which is 3dfx only.
22:39:15CoolManright
22:39:35CoolMan3dfx = dead-as-a-doorknocker
22:39:43Diablo-D3I know
22:39:55CoolMansad too, i like this hw
22:39:57Diablo-D3but, hey, you would be too after releasing the voodoo3 and vooodo banshee
22:40:12CoolMani have the voodoo 3 and voodoo 5
22:40:31CoolMani like them both
22:40:37Diablo-D3both shit products.
22:40:40Diablo-D3ANYHOW
22:40:44CoolManexcept the linux support for the voodoo5 really blowd
22:40:47CoolManblows
22:40:51Diablo-D3Yeah, nvidia should rot in hell for not following the standard.
22:41:14Diablo-D3eh, I dont
22:41:25Diablo-D3heh
22:41:25Diablo-D3atleast it works
22:41:27Diablo-D3its just not completed
22:41:34Diablo-D3oh, and doesnt the 2nd proc not work?
22:41:42Diablo-D3and is detected as a v4 because of it?
22:41:48CoolMani'm not sure
22:41:57CoolManmy dad installed it, not me
22:42:03CoolManbut i think your right
22:42:05Diablo-D3yeah, iirc, its fucked in linux
22:42:09CoolManhey Wizord!
22:42:12Diablo-D3only one of the texture procs work.
22:42:13Wizordhi
22:42:19Diablo-D3aka, a overpowered v4.
22:42:38CoolManWizord: it's been awhile since you've been here man
22:42:45Wizordnope
22:42:45Diablo-D3so, what is the tuxbox gonna be put in, anyhow?
22:42:53Wizordi've been here just yesterday
22:43:06Diablo-D3artsy 1u tall box?
22:43:10CoolManWizord: correction: since i've seen you
22:43:17CoolManDiablo-D3: we not sure yet
22:43:23Wizordok
22:43:34Diablo-D3well, its gotta look cool
22:43:40CoolManDiablo-D3: you think you can be here sunday 1:00 EST than?
22:43:43Diablo-D3otherwise those lamer ass gamers will pass it by.
22:43:43CoolManto make your point?
22:43:46Diablo-D3CoolMan: maybe
22:44:00CoolManDiablo-D3: we will make it look cool
22:44:43Diablo-D3Heh. Im talking not as much as gamecrap or msbox, but like, ps2 kinda cool
22:45:00CoolManit will be cool
22:45:09Diablo-D3... tuxbox needs a little blue light ;)
22:45:18CoolManwe're just not sure how cool yet
22:46:12CoolManhmmm, i should go guys, i need to think about how i'm going to pursue the next step in Smoke's development
22:46:16Diablo-D3i dunno, I think top loading cd stuff is out of style now
22:46:34CoolManDiablo-D3: that would be too expensive anyhoo
22:46:49Diablo-D3heh
22:46:53CoolManDiablo-D3: we are going with like, a laptop DVD-ROM drive
22:46:54Diablo-D3it takes money to make money.
22:47:01Diablo-D3eww.
22:47:06Diablo-D3no, get a real one
22:47:13CoolMantoo big
22:47:22Diablo-D3so idiot 5 year old brothers have less chance of breaking the caddy off
22:47:31CoolManhmmm
22:47:42CoolManyou should hang out here man
22:48:00Diablo-D3do you realize how many channels im on now, as it is?
22:48:01CoolManyou have opinions, and the best way to help is to voice them
22:48:13CoolManno
22:48:19CoolMani don't
22:48:23Diablo-D310.
22:48:27CoolManwow
22:48:31Diablo-D3not including ones im not in right now
22:48:42CoolMani'm saying the TuxBox forums too
22:48:50Diablo-D3eww
22:48:52CoolManget involved with the TuxBox project man
22:48:55Diablo-D3forums == bad
22:49:02Diablo-D3require too much effort
22:49:03CoolManheck no man
22:49:07CoolManforums rock
22:49:14Diablo-D3hah
22:49:25Diablo-D3forums may have rocked 8 years ago.
22:49:35Diablo-D3but not now
22:49:41CoolMananyway...
22:49:46CoolMani must go
22:49:55CoolMancyall later
22:50:29Diablo-D3Wizord: heh, so I run xchat, so what?
22:50:52Wizordsorry, i don't know there's an xchat for win
22:52:06Diablo-D3heh
22:52:08Diablo-D3I feel dirty
22:52:11Diablo-D3is in windows
22:52:25Wizordwhy your name?
22:52:47Wizordanyhow related to blizzard?
22:53:10Diablo-D3eww no.
22:53:27Diablo-D3has had this nick before people knew what blizzard was.
22:53:34Wizordoh
22:53:40Diablo-D3And especially before they had that stupid nethack clone.
22:54:42Wizordso do you do some coding for tuxbox?
22:54:53Diablo-D3Me? No.
22:54:58Diablo-D3Coolman wants me to join
22:55:03Diablo-D3but I do far too much other stuff

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