| 00:44:28 | Wizord | hi coolman |
| 00:44:33 | CoolMan | hey dude |
| 00:44:41 | Wizord | how you |
| 00:44:47 | CoolMan | how's it hangin'? |
| 00:44:50 | CoolMan | now bad |
| 00:44:54 | CoolMan | not bad |
| 00:45:19 | Wizord | you were waiting for someone actually wrote something on the channel?? |
| 00:45:32 | CoolMan | ?? |
| 00:45:38 | CoolMan | I am running GAIM |
| 00:45:47 | Wizord | what's that? |
| 00:45:55 | CoolMan | it will pop in front of my work when sombody says somthing |
| 00:46:00 | Wizord | ah |
| 00:46:03 | CoolMan | http://gaim.sf.net/ |
| 00:46:17 | Wizord | i'll keep an eye on it |
| 00:46:24 | CoolMan | my favorite instant communication tool |
| 00:47:02 | Wizord | you can configure it so if anyone writes your name, the app pops up? |
| 00:47:19 | CoolMan | no, it pops up the instant anything happens |
| 00:47:44 | CoolMan | it is really an AIM client, but it comes with plugins for different protocols |
| 00:47:44 | Wizord | sounds cool |
| 00:47:54 | CoolMan | i am using the IRC plugin right now |
| 00:48:06 | Wizord | oic |
| 00:48:20 | CoolMan | pretty cool if I do say so myself |
| 00:48:25 | Wizord | how your coding? |
| 00:48:32 | CoolMan | it also supports encryption |
| 00:48:36 | CoolMan | not bad |
| 00:48:55 | CoolMan | right now I am writing "10 steps to success with the TuxBox" |
| 00:49:04 | Wizord | XDD really?? |
| 00:49:16 | CoolMan | (instructions for setting up Smoke and a package to play with |
| 00:49:21 | CoolMan | what is XDD? |
| 00:49:32 | Wizord | a very big smile |
| 00:49:46 | CoolMan | oic |
| 00:49:47 | Wizord | closing the eyes |
| 00:49:50 | CoolMan | yes really |
| 00:50:05 | CoolMan | i am |
| 00:50:12 | CoolMan | are you running linux right now? |
| 00:50:17 | Wizord | yes |
| 00:50:25 | CoolMan | can you be the first to test it? |
| 00:50:42 | Wizord | what you want me to test? |
| 00:51:10 | CoolMan | well, when I am done writing instructions, I will upload to my site |
| 00:51:17 | CoolMan | you read them and try to follow them |
| 00:51:24 | Wizord | ok c'mon |
| 00:51:28 | CoolMan | hurrying |
| 00:52:31 | Wizord | btw it seems a joke :-) |
| 00:52:41 | Wizord | you sure don't know that, but... |
| 00:52:42 | CoolMan | what does? |
| 00:53:05 | Wizord | 28 of december is the day of jokes in Spain |
| 00:53:13 | Wizord | as 1st april on the us |
| 00:53:23 | CoolMan | ah ic |
| 00:53:37 | CoolMan | what does dec 28 have to do with now tho? |
| 00:53:55 | Wizord | your page starts counting from dec, 28 |
| 00:53:59 | CoolMan | i mean, why does it seem a joke? |
| 00:54:10 | Wizord | well, |
| 00:54:11 | CoolMan | oh, haha |
| 00:54:16 | CoolMan | that is funny |
| 00:54:20 | CoolMan | i didn't know |
| 00:54:28 | CoolMan | it's for real, i swear |
| 00:54:35 | Wizord | sure |
| 00:56:35 | Wizord | <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Mozilla/4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i586) [Netscape]"> |
| 00:56:49 | CoolMan | can you print text under linux? |
| 00:57:01 | CoolMan | is that from my page? |
| 00:57:04 | Wizord | yes |
| 00:57:13 | Wizord | it's on your page |
| 00:57:14 | CoolMan | I edit it by hand |
| 00:57:16 | Wizord | ;) |
| 00:57:17 | CoolMan | as well |
| 00:57:29 | Wizord | don't worry |
| 00:57:52 | CoolMan | hehe, my nice page couldn't possibly be made by a program! |
| 00:57:55 | Wizord | I haven't any printer connected to my system right now |
| 00:58:01 | CoolMan | hmm |
| 00:58:37 | CoolMan | could you have it so you could read this text file while fullscreen things were happening? |
| 00:58:44 | CoolMan | have another computer? |
| 00:58:48 | CoolMan | etc? |
| 00:59:05 | Wizord | hmm |
| 00:59:14 | Wizord | yes |
| 00:59:17 | CoolMan | well, you could just read ahead |
| 01:01:43 | Wizord | btw you do your next meeting feb.9? |
| 01:02:09 | CoolMan | the 10th |
| 01:02:18 | CoolMan | although, that in my time zone |
| 01:02:32 | CoolMan | it is next Sunday 1:00PM EST |
| 01:03:22 | Wizord | that's 7.00PM here I think |
| 01:03:28 | CoolMan | what day? |
| 01:03:31 | Wizord | same |
| 01:03:39 | CoolMan | hmm |
| 01:03:43 | CoolMan | not too bad |
| 01:03:47 | Wizord | hey dude, there's not so big difference :) |
| 01:03:55 | Wizord | 6 hours only |
| 01:03:57 | CoolMan | so it's really late there now? |
| 01:04:11 | Wizord | well, right now it's a bit over 2 AM |
| 01:04:17 | CoolMan | i thought so |
| 01:05:34 | Wizord | i'll do the test on another machine, so you can begin it if you wish |
| 01:05:53 | CoolMan | well, i'm not quite ready |
| 01:07:29 | CoolMan | uploading files |
| 01:07:38 | CoolMan | then i will edit the HTML and re-upload that |
| 01:12:13 | CoolMan | ok! |
| 01:12:18 | CoolMan | it should be done! |
| 01:14:10 | Wizord | lets's go |
| 01:14:27 | CoolMan | ok, i have not checked the website yet |
| 01:14:39 | CoolMan | i just patched in some new HTML |
| 01:14:48 | CoolMan | but try going to the download section |
| 01:15:02 | CoolMan | and reading the 10 easy steps... |
| 01:15:31 | CoolMan | tell me if you get it |
| 01:15:50 | CoolMan | you need a link? |
| 01:16:06 | Wizord | hmm |
| 01:16:18 | Wizord | on the page there's a new "version 1.1" |
| 01:16:20 | Wizord | is that? |
| 01:17:11 | CoolMan | well, have you begun to read the instructions yet? |
| 01:19:11 | Wizord | not yet |
| 01:19:25 | Wizord | i'm trying to figure out what file exactly I must download |
| 01:19:43 | Wizord | and why my Opera browser crashes after downloading one of them |
| 01:19:47 | CoolMan | download version 1.1 of DGI |
| 01:19:54 | Wizord | ok for that |
| 01:19:59 | CoolMan | and version 0.01b of Smoke |
| 01:20:07 | CoolMan | and download the teneasy steps |
| 01:20:43 | Wizord | where can I find those ten easy steps? |
| 01:20:56 | CoolMan | or, just get INSTALL out of Smoke 0.01b |
| 01:21:11 | CoolMan | it is right next to smoke 0.01b |
| 01:21:41 | CoolMan | do you see it yet? |
| 01:22:55 | Wizord | ok |
| 01:23:00 | CoolMan | sweet |
| 01:23:01 | Wizord | I switched the browser |
| 01:23:10 | CoolMan | ok |
| 01:23:10 | Wizord | netscape now |
| 01:23:14 | CoolMan | good |
| 01:26:08 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 01:27:37 | Wizord | hi |
| 01:27:39 | Wizord | testing |
| 01:27:51 | CoolMan | so, how are you fareing? |
| 01:27:51 | Wizord | I've found a mistake |
| 01:28:26 | Wizord | in step 3, you state there's a file called "paths.h" on the smoke package |
| 01:28:30 | Wizord | there's no such file |
| 01:28:43 | Wizord | the paths are contained on smoke.c instead |
| 01:28:52 | CoolMan | that is the wrong version |
| 01:29:00 | CoolMan | you are looking at the old version |
| 01:29:10 | Wizord | you updated smoke? |
| 01:29:11 | CoolMan | that will not work correctly with the instructions |
| 01:29:22 | CoolMan | yes, there is a version 0.01b now |
| 01:29:26 | Wizord | ok, I'll go for the new one |
| 01:31:42 | Wizord | anything to do with the PATH_SELF variable? |
| 01:31:58 | CoolMan | it should point to the smoke source tree |
| 01:33:21 | Wizord | btw |
| 01:33:42 | Wizord | the four #defines in the file are commented out |
| 01:33:54 | CoolMan | yes they are |
| 01:34:05 | CoolMan | it won't compilte unless you read the instructions |
| 01:34:10 | CoolMan | compile |
| 01:34:24 | CoolMan | BTW, when you update them, you should un-comment them |
| 01:34:38 | Wizord | hey, you must say that on the docs |
| 01:35:04 | CoolMan | i know, my bad |
| 01:38:11 | Wizord | hmm |
| 01:38:20 | CoolMan | whats wrong? |
| 01:38:32 | Wizord | it's a bit of trouble this |
| 01:38:39 | CoolMan | what? |
| 01:38:50 | Wizord | the test machine hasn't sdl installed |
| 01:38:53 | Wizord | so I install it |
| 01:38:59 | CoolMan | yeah? |
| 01:39:09 | Wizord | I'd found a sdl package for a different processor |
| 01:39:16 | Wizord | so I'd to found the right one |
| 01:39:32 | Wizord | now I need to find an opengl dev pack |
| 01:39:33 | CoolMan | you have to find the right one? |
| 01:39:40 | CoolMan | nm |
| 01:39:42 | Wizord | no, I already found it |
| 01:39:51 | CoolMan | hmm, what distro are you runnin'? |
| 01:39:58 | Wizord | suse 7.2 |
| 01:40:03 | CoolMan | RedHad has all that crap allready? |
| 01:40:14 | CoolMan | RedHat has it allready |
| 01:40:18 | CoolMan | (sorry) |
| 01:40:28 | Wizord | what you use? |
| 01:40:49 | CoolMan | i use RedHat 7.2 |
| 01:40:58 | CoolMan | (right now) |
| 01:41:12 | Wizord | you know, this is an improvised test machine :) |
| 01:41:15 | CoolMan | it came with all of this stuff |
| 01:41:17 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 01:41:23 | CoolMan | well, a bit of advice |
| 01:41:36 | Wizord | it has a differently targetted installation |
| 01:41:46 | Wizord | not for development |
| 01:41:52 | CoolMan | when you have to install a library, compile it yourself, it's easier than binarys |
| 01:42:25 | Wizord | I tend to minimize what this machine has |
| 01:42:36 | Wizord | it's an AMD k6-3 400 MHZ |
| 01:43:02 | CoolMan | oic |
| 01:43:09 | CoolMan | that |
| 01:43:12 | CoolMan | sorry |
| 01:43:31 | CoolMan | that's not much worse then my main development machine! |
| 01:43:44 | CoolMan | AMD k6 550! |
| 01:44:11 | CoolMan | oh man, you are going to have trouble compiling DGI |
| 01:44:18 | CoolMan | it need lots of libraries |
| 01:46:06 | Wizord | ois |
| 01:46:10 | Wizord | i see |
| 01:46:20 | Wizord | it needs also SDL_mixer |
| 01:46:29 | CoolMan | yes, and SMPEG |
| 01:46:34 | Wizord | you might list all the dependencies on your doc |
| 01:46:40 | CoolMan | i did |
| 01:46:43 | CoolMan | in the README |
| 01:49:41 | CoolMan | you have any last questions? |
| 01:49:46 | CoolMan | i'm gonna have to do the dishes and some little homework |
| 01:49:57 | Wizord | let's go |
| 01:50:12 | Wizord | i'll try it and write my results here |
| 01:50:18 | Wizord | then I'll go to bed |
| 01:50:21 | CoolMan | ok |
| 01:53:54 | CoolMan | i'm gonna have to do the dishes |
| 01:54:02 | CoolMan | if you have a question, fire it at me though |
| 01:54:07 | CoolMan | i will check the screen every little while |
| 01:54:16 | CoolMan | i will notice it eventually |
| 01:58:05 | Wizord | I finally managed to compile DGI |
| 01:59:41 | CoolMan[Away] | sweet |
| 02:00:10 | Bakemono | heyo |
| 02:00:13 | travis_143cw | word |
| 02:00:16 | Bakemono | byte |
| 02:00:26 | CoolMan[Away] | i'm doing dishes |
| 02:00:31 | CoolMan[Away] | sorry guys |
| 02:00:38 | travis_143cw | is doing homework |
| 02:00:42 | CoolMan[Away] | i will be back some time later |
| 02:00:49 | travis_143cw | i will be sorta here |
| 02:00:59 | Bakemono | doesn't have homework due till monday |
| 02:01:02 | Bakemono | muhaha |
| 02:01:04 | Bakemono | and it's easy |
| 02:01:19 | CoolMan[Away] | bakemono sucks |
| 02:01:31 | Bakemono | :({ |
| 02:01:39 | Wizord | argh |
| 02:01:48 | Wizord | finally managed to compile and execute that |
| 02:01:52 | Wizord | it runs |
| 02:02:02 | Wizord | but after the second Enter, it crashes |
| 02:02:11 | Wizord | Failed: Mix_OpenAudio |
| 02:02:34 | CoolMan[Away] | DGI can't run |
| 02:02:43 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 02:02:51 | CoolMan[Away] | do you have a sound card? |
| 02:02:52 | Bakemono | Wizord: what sound card you got? |
| 02:03:08 | Wizord | its a soundblaster ISA 16 |
| 02:03:17 | Wizord | it works well |
| 02:03:24 | CoolMan[Away] | is it set up so you can hear sound in linux? |
| 02:03:30 | Bakemono | kill all the other apps that might be using sound |
| 02:03:34 | Wizord | but I think it's captured by the window manager |
| 02:03:40 | Bakemono | (if there is only one) |
| 02:03:41 | Bakemono | oh.. |
| 02:03:42 | CoolMan[Away] | (including KDE, or equiv) |
| 02:03:55 | Wizord | I'll restart X with another window manager to see it |
| 02:04:04 | CoolMan[Away] | try skipping to the respawn step |
| 02:04:08 | CoolMan[Away] | man |
| 02:04:11 | CoolMan[Away] | step 10 |
| 02:04:12 | Bakemono | 1.1!!! |
| 02:04:20 | CoolMan[Away] | yeah, i just released it today |
| 02:04:28 | Bakemono | changlog? |
| 02:04:32 | Bakemono | changelog* |
| 02:04:40 | CoolMan[Away] | along with Smoke 0.01b and a 10 easy steps... |
| 02:04:47 | CoolMan[Away] | changelog is in the README |
| 02:04:53 | Wizord | do you want to skip directly to step 10?? |
| 02:05:10 | Bakemono | if it's not small would you mind spittin' it out right here? |
| 02:05:11 | Wizord | ok let's go |
| 02:05:18 | CoolMan[Away] | you here at step 7 rihgt? |
| 02:05:24 | CoolMan[Away] | were at 7 |
| 02:05:49 | Wizord | fine |
| 02:05:50 | Wizord | it worked |
| 02:06:07 | Wizord | not so bad, actually |
| 02:06:13 | Wizord | around 30 fps |
| 02:06:21 | CoolMan[Away] | bakemono: nothing big, just some sorting code for Smoke, and made the code nicer |
| 02:06:30 | CoolMan[Away] | with sound? |
| 02:06:40 | Wizord | hmm wait |
| 02:06:41 | Bakemono | cool |
| 02:06:47 | Wizord | yes |
| 02:06:49 | CoolMan[Away] | bakemono: DGI is more attached to Smoke if thats possible |
| 02:07:00 | Bakemono | k |
| 02:07:04 | CoolMan[Away] | Wizord: did it respawn smoke when it was done? |
| 02:07:06 | Bakemono | I'll probably check it out later tonite |
| 02:07:19 | Wizord | yes |
| 02:07:31 | CoolMan[Away] | bakemono: i was acually just going to ask if you would check my 10 east steps and see if they make sense |
| 02:07:42 | Bakemono | in a bit yo |
| 02:07:43 | CoolMan[Away] | wizord: did everything work well? |
| 02:07:59 | CoolMan[Away] | graphics nice? |
| 02:08:08 | CoolMan[Away] | etc. |
| 02:08:17 | Wizord | well, it seems to |
| 02:08:36 | Wizord | keyboard response seems not to be very fine |
| 02:08:47 | CoolMan[Away] | for the BOOM? |
| 02:08:50 | Wizord | no |
| 02:08:57 | CoolMan[Away] | that's SDL-mixer's fault |
| 02:08:57 | Wizord | on the "select game" screen |
| 02:09:10 | Wizord | no |
| 02:09:12 | Wizord | sorry |
| 02:09:14 | CoolMan[Away] | it takes a second to load the icon |
| 02:09:22 | Wizord | on the "do you wish to start this game?" screen |
| 02:09:29 | CoolMan[Away] | yeah |
| 02:09:38 | CoolMan[Away] | when you press enter on your package |
| 02:09:50 | Wizord | maybe keyboard buffering or so |
| 02:09:59 | CoolMan[Away] | it will take a second to go to the next screen |
| 02:10:05 | CoolMan[Away] | it's not the keybord input |
| 02:10:16 | CoolMan[Away] | it starts working the instant you press enter |
| 02:10:21 | Wizord | it's longer than only one second |
| 02:10:26 | Wizord | it's forever :D |
| 02:10:34 | CoolMan[Away] | ??? |
| 02:10:46 | Wizord | I might press the enter key several times |
| 02:10:59 | CoolMan[Away] | well, if your machine is slow... |
| 02:11:11 | CoolMan[Away] | it is doing keyboard buffering BTW |
| 02:11:21 | Bakemono | CoolMan[Away]: it was takin' forever on my box too... |
| 02:11:27 | CoolMan[Away] | but, there is a seperate thread doing keyboard logic |
| 02:11:41 | CoolMan[Away] | bakemono: on the loading? |
| 02:12:10 | CoolMan[Away] | "Loading..."? |
| 02:13:21 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:13:22 | Bakemono | thinks |
| 02:13:25 | CoolMan[Away] | if so, that would have to do with me making the instructions less than clear |
| 02:13:40 | CoolMan[Away] | that's what these new releases are for |
| 02:13:46 | CoolMan[Away] | acually... |
| 02:13:54 | Bakemono | oh |
| 02:14:18 | CoolMan[Away] | i'm going to release smoke again tonight, based on feedback from the people who checked my 10 easy steps |
| 02:14:55 | Bakemono | k |
| 02:14:57 | Bakemono | 1.11? |
| 02:14:58 | Bakemono | :P |
| 02:15:06 | CoolMan[Away] | hehe 0.01c |
| 02:15:10 | Wizord | it seems there are two threads competing each for the use of the processor |
| 02:15:10 | Bakemono | ? |
| 02:15:23 | CoolMan[Away] | there should not be |
| 02:15:36 | CoolMan[Away] | but on my 550 Mgz, it is a breeze |
| 02:15:49 | CoolMan[Away] | i figure that the TB should have no problem |
| 02:15:59 | Wizord | hmmm |
| 02:16:15 | CoolMan[Away] | i'm not coding inefficiantly, well, i might be |
| 02:16:23 | Wizord | sorry |
| 02:16:28 | Wizord | I can't say that |
| 02:16:28 | CoolMan[Away] | if you find somthing i'm doing stupid, please help me fix it |
| 02:16:39 | CoolMan[Away] | (i'm still learning) |
| 02:16:46 | Wizord | oh well |
| 02:17:08 | Wizord | what exactly does every thread? |
| 02:17:17 | Wizord | one for keyboard and the other for drawing? |
| 02:17:26 | CoolMan[Away] | there is one main thread, then one event_logic thread |
| 02:17:35 | CoolMan[Away] | the code for that can be found in event_logic.c |
| 02:22:48 | Wizord | ok, I see it |
| 02:23:02 | CoolMan[Away] | you get what it's doing? |
| 02:23:06 | Wizord | you might consider the use of system semaphores |
| 02:23:18 | Wizord | you have two threads running at full speed |
| 02:23:19 | CoolMan[Away] | there is no reason to |
| 02:23:26 | Bakemono | compiling glibc now... |
| 02:23:30 | Wizord | and no synchonisation between them |
| 02:24:03 | CoolMan[Away] | if the variables were dependant on one another, that would be a good idea, but now it would be useless |
| 02:24:14 | Wizord | look man |
| 02:24:29 | Wizord | changing such a wide array is not an atomic operation |
| 02:24:43 | CoolMan[Away] | true |
| 02:24:43 | Wizord | so you can read a variable just when the kernel pre-empted the other thread |
| 02:25:02 | CoolMan[Away] | but the veriable will be one state or the other |
| 02:25:10 | Wizord | not exactly |
| 02:25:18 | Wizord | the way it's done, |
| 02:25:36 | CoolMan[Away] | and it doesn't matter witch, because if it's the old valuse, it will be recognized 1/30 second later |
| 02:26:05 | Wizord | hey, you better wait a little |
| 02:26:14 | CoolMan[Away] | am i updating _keyboard in there? |
| 02:26:14 | Wizord | the program does not work well |
| 02:26:30 | Wizord | the variables aren't even marked as volatile |
| 02:26:57 | CoolMan[Away] | i agree, that is a problem |
| 02:26:59 | Wizord | so the system can put the whole array on the cache and never read the memory again |
| 02:27:01 | CoolMan[Away] | i didn't think about that |
| 02:27:18 | Wizord | it's sane to have a semaphore |
| 02:27:26 | CoolMan[Away] | but the semaphoring would be a waste for such a simple system |
| 02:27:29 | Bakemono | brb |
| 02:27:34 | CoolMan[Away] | it would slow the graphics |
| 02:27:39 | Wizord | not at all |
| 02:27:50 | Wizord | you can put a semaphore on the event handler thread |
| 02:28:11 | Wizord | that way, the thread is stopped by the kernel until an event effectively arrives |
| 02:28:30 | Wizord | so you have the whole processor for doing anything actually interesting |
| 02:28:37 | Wizord | such as redraw the menu or the like |
| 02:28:44 | CoolMan[Away] | hmmm |
| 02:28:46 | CoolMan[Away] | i could |
| 02:29:29 | Wizord | don't be afraid for the use of semaphores |
| 02:29:44 | Wizord | it's not a waste of resources as you seems to fear |
| 02:29:51 | CoolMan[Away] | i am not afraid of semaphores in any way |
| 02:30:00 | CoolMan[Away] | i just though that it would be a last resort |
| 02:30:15 | CoolMan[Away] | but i can guarentee that it would not help your problem |
| 02:30:34 | CoolMan[Away] | as SDL sends both keyup and keydown messages |
| 02:31:20 | Wizord | can you think again on this? |
| 02:31:23 | Wizord | listen |
| 02:31:33 | Wizord | first, I press a key |
| 02:31:47 | Wizord | evhand captures the pressing of a key |
| 02:32:06 | Wizord | then, I release the key |
| 02:32:13 | Wizord | evhand captures the event again |
| 02:32:20 | Wizord | and updates the _keyboard array |
| 02:32:55 | Wizord | event_logic never knows a key was pressed |
| 02:33:01 | CoolMan[Away] | correct |
| 02:34:02 | CoolMan[Away] | if your computer is too slow that both events are proccessed at the same time, there is no way that my program could act apon your momentary key press |
| 02:34:21 | CoolMan[Away] | because, notice evhand loops untill all events are processed |
| 02:35:17 | Wizord | ok, do it your way then |
| 02:35:42 | CoolMan[Away] | well, i will implement semaphoring |
| 02:35:58 | CoolMan[Away] | i might as well, because i will have to eventually anyway |
| 02:36:12 | CoolMan[Away] | and i should mark the vars as volitle |
| 02:36:25 | CoolMan[Away] | but beyond that, i can't think of any other way to help |
| 02:37:08 | CoolMan[Away] | i mean, when you have sent to conflicting events to the program at the same time, it can't possibly get your key press |
| 02:37:34 | Wizord | there's a way to resolve such conflicts |
| 02:37:39 | CoolMan[Away] | yes? |
| 02:37:40 | Wizord | it's called "serialisation" |
| 02:37:57 | Wizord | a semaphore can help to serialise the events |
| 02:37:59 | CoolMan[Away] | yes? |
| 02:38:03 | CoolMan[Away] | hmmm |
| 02:38:20 | Wizord | sdl is constructed with this thing in mind |
| 02:38:28 | CoolMan[Away] | hold up |
| 02:38:44 | Wizord | as for that, SDL_PollEvent returns only one event |
| 02:38:54 | Wizord | and the others remain in a queue |
| 02:39:03 | Wizord | until you're ready to process them |
| 02:39:27 | CoolMan[Away] | if I were to make my program call event_logic after every call of evhand, it would be perfectly serialized |
| 02:39:39 | Wizord | surely yes |
| 02:39:44 | CoolMan[Away] | i'm aware of the ability to process events one by one |
| 02:39:58 | CoolMan[Away] | if you notice, i an using a while loop to get them all |
| 02:40:45 | Wizord | in a realtime game, you might balance the processing of incoming events and other things |
| 02:40:56 | Wizord | such as network communications, |
| 02:41:02 | Wizord | graphics redrawing, and the such |
| 02:41:09 | CoolMan[Away] | but, that level of serialization would not help, because if evhand looped through both the enter keydown and the enter keyup message, it would still not help |
| 02:42:08 | Wizord | on my work, I completely process an incoming event before taking the next |
| 02:42:40 | CoolMan[Away] | even if you put the event_logic in the event harvesting loop, it would only waste CPU resources, because it would still end up acting on both events |
| 02:42:49 | CoolMan[Away] | of course |
| 02:43:45 | CoolMan[Away] | i could make it so accept was TRUE at the keydown and FALSE when it was done being used, but that could cause other bugs |
| 02:44:31 | CoolMan[Away] | (ie when you press during "Loading..." it would automatically select the first item on the list |
| 02:44:34 | CoolMan[Away] | ) |
| 02:45:03 | Wizord | I think a better keyboard handling routine is needed :) |
| 02:45:14 | CoolMan[Away] | do you have any other ideas for a better way to fix the problem? |
| 02:45:44 | Wizord | well, actually... yes |
| 02:45:58 | CoolMan[Away] | well, i am trying to make it flexible so that the controller transition will be a breeze |
| 02:46:04 | CoolMan[Away] | so keep that in mind |
| 02:46:17 | Wizord | ok |
| 02:47:35 | Wizord | I'm thinking on it right now... |
| 02:47:40 | Wizord | so let's go |
| 02:47:42 | CoolMan[Away] | ok, i will be doing dishes |
| 02:48:02 | Wizord | you can change that _keyboard array |
| 02:48:09 | Wizord | it can be an array of pointers to functions |
| 02:48:16 | CoolMan[Away] | when you come up with a better way, show it here, and I will see it |
| 02:48:19 | CoolMan[Away] | yeah? |
| 02:48:28 | Wizord | those functions are actually key handlers |
| 02:48:39 | Wizord | so when a key is pressed, the function handler is executed |
| 02:48:56 | Wizord | you will need two arrays, one for the pressing, and one for the releasing |
| 02:49:14 | CoolMan[Away] | ok, or you could run a subroutine after the event handling that check _keyboard |
| 02:49:22 | Wizord | yes |
| 02:49:23 | CoolMan[Away] | and do stuff about it |
| 02:49:26 | Wizord | yes |
| 02:49:39 | CoolMan[Away] | (as little changing to my current code) |
| 02:49:40 | Wizord | you need to check beforehand if the key handler is empty |
| 02:49:44 | CoolMan[Away] | (as possible) |
| 02:50:01 | CoolMan[Away] | ??? |
| 02:50:06 | Wizord | i.e. if _keyboard[key] == 0 |
| 02:50:06 | CoolMan[Away] | i misunderstand |
| 02:50:17 | CoolMan[Away] | right right |
| 02:50:19 | CoolMan[Away] | ok |
| 02:50:47 | Wizord | that way, you can do it very modular |
| 02:51:00 | CoolMan[Away] | so, if it's FALSE, then do this, if it's TRUE do this |
| 02:51:09 | Wizord | right |
| 02:51:19 | CoolMan[Away] | like set my accept variable TRUE or FALSE |
| 02:51:26 | Wizord | yes |
| 02:51:33 | CoolMan[Away] | like i'm doing now |
| 02:51:40 | Wizord | think on it |
| 02:51:45 | CoolMan[Away] | so what are we changing? |
| 02:52:29 | CoolMan[Away] | so we do the event handling, and set _keyboard |
| 02:52:50 | Wizord | ? |
| 02:53:15 | CoolMan[Away] | then we do event_logic, and if _keyboard[SDL_ENTER] then accept = TRUE; else, accept = FALSE? |
| 02:53:28 | CoolMan[Away] | so what's different? |
| 02:53:28 | Wizord | no, no |
| 02:53:39 | Wizord | no way |
| 02:53:43 | Wizord | let's code it |
| 02:53:50 | CoolMan[Away] | show me an example |
| 02:53:59 | CoolMan[Away] | i will not type again untill you say you are done |
| 02:54:06 | CoolMan[Away] | because i need to do the dishes |
| 02:54:07 | Wizord | ok |
| 02:54:23 | Wizord | I'll need to sleep sometime... |
| 02:54:25 | Bakemono | back |
| 02:55:19 | Wizord | typedef void (*keyhandler)(int); |
| 02:55:41 | Wizord | keyhandler _key_pressed[1024]; |
| 02:55:51 | Wizord | keyhandler _key_released[1024]; |
| 02:55:56 | Wizord | |
| 02:56:05 | Wizord | main() |
| 02:56:05 | Wizord | { |
| 02:56:17 | Wizord | int i; |
| 02:56:44 | Wizord | for (i=0; i<1024; i++) { _key_pressed = _key_released=0; }; |
| 02:57:12 | Wizord | _key_pressed[SDL_ENTER] = process_enter; |
| 02:57:35 | Wizord | _key_pressed[SDLK_UP] = go_up; |
| 02:57:56 | Wizord | /*...*/ |
| 02:57:59 | Wizord | } |
| 02:58:09 | Wizord | void process_enter(int code) |
| 02:58:11 | Wizord | { |
| 02:58:25 | Wizord | accept = TRUE; |
| 02:58:27 | Wizord | } |
| 02:58:43 | Wizord | void go_up(int code) |
| 02:58:45 | Wizord | { |
| 02:58:49 | Wizord | up = TRUE; |
| 02:58:50 | Wizord | } |
| 02:58:55 | Wizord | --- |
| 02:59:23 | Wizord | void evhand() |
| 02:59:28 | Wizord | { |
| 02:59:44 | Wizord | while (SDL_PollEvent(&event)) |
| 03:00:00 | Wizord | { |
| 03:00:14 | Wizord | switch(event.type) |
| 03:00:16 | Wizord | { |
| 03:00:29 | Wizord | case SDL_KEYDOWN: |
| 03:00:57 | Wizord | if (_key_pressed[event.key.keysym.sym] != 0) |
| 03:01:25 | Wizord | _key_pressed[event.key.keysym.sym](event.key.keysym.sym); |
| 03:01:33 | Wizord | break; |
| 03:01:42 | Wizord | case SDL_KEYUP: |
| 03:01:59 | Wizord | if (_key_released[event.key.keysym.sym] != 0) |
| 03:02:13 | Wizord | _key_released[event.key.keysym.sym](event.key.keysym.sym); |
| 03:02:16 | Wizord | break; |
| 03:02:17 | Wizord | ... |
| 03:02:19 | Wizord | } |
| 03:02:20 | Wizord | } |
| 03:02:25 | Wizord | done |
| 03:02:34 | CoolMan[Away] | hmmm' |
| 03:03:02 | Wizord | you can actually replace process_enter and go_up with a function that does anything better |
| 03:03:17 | Wizord | like processing enter or going up |
| 03:03:34 | Wizord | instead of having a marker for someother to do it |
| 03:03:53 | CoolMan[Away] | i see what you are doing, but it doesn't help |
| 03:04:15 | Wizord | why not? |
| 03:04:22 | CoolMan[Away] | because "processing enter" is going to be different depending on where you are in the code |
| 03:04:34 | Wizord | that's right |
| 03:04:35 | CoolMan[Away] | the best you can do is accept = TRUE; |
| 03:04:41 | Wizord | but key_pressed is a variable |
| 03:04:45 | Wizord | so you can change it |
| 03:04:50 | CoolMan[Away] | or accept = FALSE; for a keydown |
| 03:05:04 | Wizord | you can point another function |
| 03:05:06 | CoolMan[Away] | ok, granted |
| 03:05:56 | CoolMan[Away] | i agree, but I can see of no way to do that that would help, outside of re-writing the whole program |
| 03:06:14 | CoolMan[Away] | and still, you would have it proccessing confilcting statements |
| 03:06:39 | CoolMan[Away] | especially when this is only a problem on a slow computer |
| 03:06:46 | CoolMan[Away] | i see where you are coming from |
| 03:07:26 | Wizord | ok, those were my two cents |
| 03:07:31 | CoolMan[Away] | and i respect you if only because you can criticize my code man |
| 03:07:51 | CoolMan[Away] | and I would like it if you would hang aroung, keep me on my toes |
| 03:08:13 | CoolMan[Away] | otherwise, i can just see myself getting lazy |
| 03:08:15 | CoolMan[Away] | lol |
| 03:08:25 | Wizord | lol |
| 03:08:30 | Wizord | ok, coolman |
| 03:08:38 | CoolMan[Away] | i know i'm exhaused, and you must be too |
| 03:08:39 | Wizord | i must do sleep now |
| 03:08:52 | CoolMan[Away] | i have to do dishes still, and schoolwork |
| 03:08:54 | Wizord | too late for me |
| 03:08:55 | CoolMan[Away] | ugh |
| 03:08:59 | CoolMan[Away] | goodnight |
| 03:09:02 | Wizord | seeya |
| 03:09:08 | CoolMan[Away] | cya |
| 03:09:53 | CoolMan[Away] | is really away now, I promise. |
| 03:34:11 | travis_143cw | howdy snake |
| 03:34:19 | Snake | howdy howdy |
| 03:34:48 | Snake | how are you? |
| 03:43:40 | | travis_143cw was last seen on #tuxboxproject 9 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying: howdy snake [Fri Feb 8 03:34:11 2002] |
| 03:43:40 | Snake | ibot seen travis_143cw? |
| 03:44:50 | | bakemono was last seen on #tuxboxproject 50 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: back [Fri Feb 8 02:54:25 2002] |
| 03:44:50 | Snake | ibot seen bakemono? |
| 03:45:02 | | coolman was last seen on #tuxboxproject 1 hours, 50 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: i will notice it eventually [Fri Feb 8 01:54:16 2002] |
| 03:45:02 | Snake | ibot seen coolman? |
| 03:45:16 | | coolman[away] was last seen on #tuxboxproject 35 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: is really away now, I promise. [Fri Feb 8 03:09:53 2002] |
| 03:45:16 | Snake | ibot seen coolman[away]? |
| 03:45:45 | Snake | heh |
| 03:45:52 | nickels | hello people |
| 03:46:17 | travis_143cw | hello nick |
| 03:46:23 | nickels | what's up man |
| 03:46:36 | Snake | hey |
| 03:46:36 | travis_143cw | homework |
| 03:46:43 | Snake | heh i hate h/w |
| 03:46:45 | travis_143cw | just getting over being incredibly sick |
| 03:46:49 | nickels | i was in sac during the sunday meeting, sorry |
| 03:46:49 | travis_143cw | hello snake |
| 03:47:37 | travis_143cw | thats fine |
| 03:47:42 | travis_143cw | let me switch puters. brb |
| 03:49:14 | Snake | wb |
| 03:49:49 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 03:50:09 | travis_143cw | i feel a lot cleaner, i am out of windows now... |
| 03:50:41 | Snake | :P |
| 03:52:30 | ag3nt_ang3r3d | Shoutcasting Radiohead - Pyramid Song [04:48] 209.255.49.119:8000 |
| 03:52:35 | ag3nt_ang3r3d | nods to all and idles |
| 03:52:45 | travis_143cw | nods back |
| 03:53:14 | travis_143cw | nickels: you still here? |
| 03:53:55 | travis_143cw | brb |
| 03:54:18 | nickels | yeah |
| 03:54:24 | travis_143cw | k cool |
| 03:54:34 | nickels | how are you doing man |
| 03:54:41 | nickels | lotta work or what |
| 03:54:43 | travis_143cw | pretty good |
| 03:54:53 | travis_143cw | yeah, lots of work and school stuff lately |
| 03:55:08 | travis_143cw | along with girlfriend and illness, i have been busy |
| 03:55:27 | nickels | so is the hardware pretty much set or are we still testing with diff options? |
| 03:56:18 | Bakemono | back |
| 03:56:18 | travis_143cw | did you see sunday's transcript? |
| 03:56:37 | nickels | no missed it |
| 03:56:38 | travis_143cw | Bakemono: did you do any mobo searching? |
| 03:56:43 | Bakemono | no, |
| 03:57:44 | travis_143cw | http://opengbgames.sourceforge.net/tuxpage/ |
| 03:57:53 | travis_143cw | nick, go there and click transcripts |
| 03:57:58 | nickels | cool |
| 03:58:27 | {55th}Sephiroth | hi |
| 03:58:37 | Bakemono | hey nickels, long time no see |
| 03:58:48 | nickels | yeah' |
| 03:58:50 | nickels | sorry |
| 03:58:59 | nickels | nice to see you again too |
| 03:59:17 | nickels | how are you doing with the os? |
| 03:59:38 | Bakemono | I'm doing... |
| 03:59:42 | Bakemono | . |
| 03:59:46 | nickels | :) |
| 03:59:56 | Bakemono | I was having some issues before |
| 04:00:16 | Bakemono | and I decided to just do LFS |
| 04:00:17 | nickels | do you need help? |
| 04:00:24 | Bakemono | not atm |
| 04:00:29 | travis_143cw | LFS? |
| 04:00:35 | travis_143cw | nevermind |
| 04:00:35 | Bakemono | linux from scratch |
| 04:00:52 | Bakemono | the interesting part will come after getting it to boot |
| 04:00:55 | travis_143cw | you mentioned a release this weekend bake? |
| 04:01:03 | Bakemono | possibly |
| 04:01:09 | Bakemono | I might be busy with some other projects though |
| 04:02:06 | travis_143cw | nickels: do you have more time lately? |
| 04:02:16 | travis_143cw | nickels: did you still want to do web stuff? |
| 04:03:12 | nickels | yeah i have more time, i would like to do a little code, but i can still work on the web aspect as well |
| 04:03:12 | R3g3nt_0rang3 | Shoutcasting System Of A Down - ATWA [02:57] 209.255.49.119:8000 |
| 04:03:56 | Bakemono | nickels: I can give you some work in a bit if you want |
| 04:04:26 | nickels | cool, lemme check it out |
| 04:04:40 | nickels | is it kernel stuff |
| 04:04:49 | Bakemono | I don't know yet |
| 04:04:50 | Bakemono | :P |
| 04:05:22 | travis_143cw | where you going to school nick? |
| 04:05:39 | nickels | fresno state and fresno pacific |
| 04:08:06 | nickels | where are you guys going, i know where you are going travis |
| 04:08:44 | Bakemono | mount hood community college... |
| 04:09:13 | CoolMan | ugh |
| 04:09:13 | Bakemono | wb |
| 04:09:16 | CoolMan | thx |
| 04:09:36 | R3g3nt_0rang3 | bbl |
| 04:09:40 | CoolMan | man, i released Smoke twice today |
| 04:09:46 | CoolMan | i am beat |
| 04:10:03 | Bakemono | ... |
| 04:10:41 | travis_143cw | hello CoolMan |
| 04:10:48 | CoolMan | did you try setting up a software tuxbox bake? |
| 04:10:57 | Bakemono | not yet |
| 04:11:07 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: hello, how goes everything? |
| 04:11:18 | Bakemono | the OS is still in the early stages of it's birth |
| 04:11:27 | CoolMan | i ment just Smoke |
| 04:11:50 | Bakemono | continues compiling GC |
| 04:11:55 | Bakemono | continues compiling GCC with GCC |
| 04:11:58 | CoolMan | owich |
| 04:12:37 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: things are going good, homework done, extra credit done, now it is time to do some more research for a good mobo |
| 04:12:54 | CoolMan | good, somthing I have not been able to do |
| 04:13:12 | travis_143cw | is also holding his guinea pig... |
| 04:13:29 | Bakemono | hey Snake |
| 04:13:33 | Snake | hey bake |
| 04:13:38 | travis_143cw | wb snake |
| 04:13:46 | Snake | thanx travis |
| 04:13:53 | CoolMan | WB snake |
| 04:13:58 | Snake | thatx coolman |
| 04:14:03 | Snake | thanx* |
| 04:14:16 | CoolMan | hey snake, I released the UI twice today |
| 04:14:41 | Snake | kool |
| 04:14:56 | CoolMan | i still have to write a TuxBox game tutorial tho |
| 04:15:04 | Snake | i c |
| 04:15:05 | CoolMan | dies at the thought. |
| 04:15:12 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: do you have updated screenshots within the last day? |
| 04:15:26 | CoolMan | nothing looks really different |
| 04:15:34 | travis_143cw | k, just wondering |
| 04:15:35 | CoolMan | except for the DGI |
| 04:15:44 | CoolMan | witch has different text |
| 04:16:22 | Bakemono | I have another game project that I'm going to be working on |
| 04:16:31 | Bakemono | it will use Proteus |
| 04:16:50 | Bakemono | I might try and make some money off it |
| 04:16:51 | CoolMan | proteus? |
| 04:16:54 | Bakemono | my rpg engine |
| 04:16:58 | CoolMan | what's that? |
| 04:17:00 | CoolMan | oic |
| 04:17:09 | CoolMan | how is that going BTW? |
| 04:17:15 | Bakemono | decent |
| 04:17:19 | travis_143cw | how many pci slots do you anticipate we will need? |
| 04:17:27 | CoolMan | one man |
| 04:17:47 | Snake | shit, no more then 2 i would think |
| 04:17:48 | CoolMan | i thought we were going for on external video and internal NIC and sound |
| 04:17:48 | Bakemono | actually 3 games |
| 04:18:15 | Bakemono | Called "Blah Blah: The Present", "Blah Blah: The Past", "Blah Blah: The Future" |
| 04:18:17 | travis_143cw | gpu will be agp i am guessing correct? |
| 04:18:23 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 04:18:26 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: most likely |
| 04:18:31 | CoolMan | so we don't even need pci |
| 04:18:45 | CoolMan | but it would be harder to find a mobo without |
| 04:18:50 | Bakemono | are we going for embedded sound? |
| 04:18:57 | CoolMan | i thought so |
| 04:19:04 | Snake | Ninja Warrior: The past, Ninja Warrior: The present, Ninja Warrior: The future :P |
| 04:19:06 | Snake | j/k |
| 04:19:11 | travis_143cw | well, if we do embedded sound it will be like AC'97 or whatever more than likely |
| 04:19:18 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:19:20 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:19:24 | Snake | bit me bakemono |
| 04:19:25 | Snake | heh |
| 04:19:29 | CoolMan | WB ninja boy |
| 04:19:29 | Snake | bite* |
| 04:19:41 | Snake | thanx |
| 04:19:48 | travis_143cw | Snake is a magic 31337 ninja |
| 04:19:49 | Bakemono | I love /kick without a reason |
| 04:19:57 | Bakemono | it lists "Bakemono" as the reason |
| 04:19:58 | Bakemono | heh |
| 04:20:05 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:20:12 | Bakemono | I find that funny for some odd reason... |
| 04:20:22 | travis_143cw | me too, there is no reason either.... |
| 04:20:26 | Snake | maybe because your odd? |
| 04:20:28 | Snake | heh |
| 04:20:41 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: are there any mobos with an embedded NIC AND embedded surround sound chipset? |
| 04:20:45 | nickels | who had created the beta-type game in the screen shot on the page? |
| 04:20:51 | nickels | hammered |
| 04:20:56 | Bakemono | tim2bad? |
| 04:21:00 | Bakemono | was he the one leading that project? |
| 04:21:19 | CoolMan | i thought that was like kenny or someone? |
| 04:21:29 | CoolMan | scratchs his head. |
| 04:21:34 | nickels | is he a regular here? |
| 04:21:41 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: not sure |
| 04:21:59 | CoolMan | travis: about the mobo? |
| 04:22:25 | travis_143cw | yep |
| 04:22:29 | Bakemono | it's kenny |
| 04:22:30 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 04:22:44 | CoolMan | bakemono: what's kenny? |
| 04:23:07 | CoolMan | the sludge that just went down my garbage disposal? |
| 04:23:07 | | somebody said kenny was the one doing hammered |
| 04:23:07 | Bakemono | ibot: what's kenny? |
| 04:23:42 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 04:23:59 | CoolMan | has anybody here gotten Smoke to work yet? |
| 04:25:14 | nickels | guys, gotta go for a bit, i ll try to catch you guys later tonight |
| 04:25:22 | CoolMan | cya |
| 04:25:23 | Bakemono | cool |
| 04:25:24 | Bakemono | later |
| 04:25:25 | Bakemono | ja |
| 04:26:10 | Snake | bye nickels |
| 04:26:29 | nickels | and whenever you want me to look at some os code that would be cool, see ya guys |
| 04:27:58 | CoolMan | hey bakemono, you still haveing trouble with that init thing? |
| 04:28:12 | Bakemono | not really |
| 04:28:21 | CoolMan | what was the problem? |
| 04:28:22 | Bakemono | I'm following lfs |
| 04:28:28 | Bakemono | it just wasn't working |
| 04:28:28 | CoolMan | ok, cool |
| 04:28:31 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 04:28:43 | CoolMan | have you gotten past that part with LFS? |
| 04:28:55 | Snake | coolman: so is Smoke totally finished |
| 04:28:55 | Snake | ? |
| 04:29:02 | CoolMan | no way |
| 04:29:03 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:29:07 | Snake | oh |
| 04:29:18 | CoolMan | i have it so you can all start your flagship titles now |
| 04:29:22 | CoolMan | but not done |
| 04:29:34 | CoolMan | check the project page on my website |
| 04:29:45 | CoolMan | it breaks down everything i have to do |
| 04:29:57 | CoolMan | i just have to take baby steps |
| 04:30:02 | CoolMan | one thing at a time |
| 04:30:13 | [57th]cneal | o |
| 04:30:57 | Snake | i have windows |
| 04:31:04 | Snake | i cant do nothing with something linux based |
| 04:31:05 | Snake | heh |
| 04:31:35 | CoolMan | you should learn |
| 04:31:39 | CoolMan | windows sucks |
| 04:31:56 | Snake | learn what? |
| 04:32:00 | CoolMan | linux |
| 04:32:05 | Snake | pfft |
| 04:32:06 | Snake | nah |
| 04:32:37 | Snake | im comfortable with windows, i will be hopeless if i switch to another OS |
| 04:32:37 | Snake | heh |
| 04:32:50 | Bakemono | : / |
| 04:32:51 | CoolMan | i was like that awhile ago |
| 04:33:01 | Bakemono | with that mindset you will be hopeless |
| 04:33:22 | Snake | -_-' |
| 04:33:29 | Bakemono | std::set mind; |
| 04:33:31 | CoolMan | hey dudes, bad news |
| 04:33:34 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 04:33:36 | Bakemono | no |
| 04:33:39 | Bakemono | there is no bad new |
| 04:33:40 | Bakemono | s |
| 04:33:40 | CoolMan | really bad news |
| 04:33:43 | Bakemono | !!!!! |
| 04:33:44 | Snake | havent i told you about my computer situayion bake? |
| 04:33:55 | CoolMan | loki is gone now |
| 04:34:03 | Bakemono | CoolMan: oh |
| 04:34:04 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 04:34:08 | Bakemono | that's old bad news |
| 04:34:09 | CoolMan | really gone |
| 04:34:12 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 04:34:13 | Bakemono | I know |
| 04:34:25 | Bakemono | I've been following the whole thing for a while now |
| 04:34:25 | CoolMan | (OpenAL has lost all funding...) |
| 04:34:29 | CoolMan | i didn't know |
| 04:34:30 | travis_143cw | sucks |
| 04:34:36 | CoolMan | what were the details? |
| 04:34:40 | Bakemono | (Think Creative...) |
| 04:34:43 | travis_143cw | that is too bad for loki... :-( |
| 04:34:51 | Bakemono | the filed chapter 11 a while back |
| 04:34:52 | Snake | whats Loki? |
| 04:34:56 | Snake | a compny? |
| 04:34:57 | CoolMan | i knew that |
| 04:34:59 | Snake | company* |
| 04:35:00 | Bakemono | and officially closed the on the 31st last month |
| 04:35:04 | CoolMan | but i thought they recovered |
| 04:35:08 | Bakemono | Snake: THEE linux game company |
| 04:35:19 | Snake | lol |
| 04:35:22 | Snake | kool |
| 04:35:26 | CoolMan | shut up snake |
| 04:35:29 | CoolMan | you know nothing |
| 04:35:35 | Snake | bite me coolman |
| 04:35:39 | Snake | i know more then you think |
| 04:35:40 | CoolMan | this is a problem |
| 04:35:55 | Snake | what is? |
| 04:36:03 | Bakemono | that you might actually know swomething |
| 04:36:04 | Bakemono | something* |
| 04:36:05 | CoolMan | snake: if you acually want me to bite you, then not only are you sick, but you think like an animal |
| 04:36:32 | [57th]cneal | Wow, those posts on the Message board are going insane |
| 04:36:35 | Snake | -_-' i dispise people like you coolman, trying to make everything literal |
| 04:36:54 | [57th]cneal | Why are you not helping snake? |
| 04:37:01 | travis_143cw | brb smoke break, play nicely kids... |
| 04:37:14 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: can I come with you? |
| 04:37:30 | CoolMan | if you can't recognize the importaince of loki's death, then I pity you |
| 04:37:48 | [57th]cneal | I mean?? Look! The message board is going CrAzY |
| 04:37:49 | travis_143cw | you bet bake, just dont tell i gave you smokes... |
| 04:37:56 | Snake | i feel no pity nor do i care if anyone pity's me |
| 04:37:56 | Bakemono | CoolMan: loki's death isn't nearly as important as it's life |
| 04:38:03 | travis_143cw | supplying to minors... cops dont like that |
| 04:38:06 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: I don't smoke, I just want to get away from this room |
| 04:38:14 | travis_143cw | then follow me! |
| 04:38:26 | CoolMan | bakemono: the death of loki is a statement |
| 04:38:34 | Snake | i couldnt care less if loki failed cause i have not known about it |
| 04:38:39 | Snake | i had heard of it |
| 04:38:41 | Snake | but nothing more |
| 04:38:52 | CoolMan | but i intend to remedy that statement if it is at all within my grasp |
| 04:39:11 | CoolMan | and if people want to join me, then so much the better |
| 04:39:33 | CoolMan | because with more people we can make these things reality |
| 04:39:43 | CoolMan | faster, more solidly |
| 04:40:04 | CoolMan | that is why i will finish this UI quickly if it kills me |
| 04:40:18 | Snake | hopefully it will |
| 04:40:19 | Snake | :P |
| 04:40:20 | Snake | j/k |
| 04:40:24 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:40:33 | CoolMan | listen to us fighting like children |
| 04:40:39 | Snake | heh |
| 04:40:40 | Snake | i know |
| 04:40:55 | CoolMan | snake: if you didn't know about loki, that's ok |
| 04:41:04 | CoolMan | that is part of the significance |
| 04:41:12 | Snake | thanx |
| 04:41:22 | CoolMan | because anything linux is stamped with death |
| 04:41:30 | Snake | heh |
| 04:41:32 | CoolMan | we must find a cure to this disease |
| 04:41:35 | Bakemono | CoolMan: LGME...think LGME... |
| 04:41:42 | Snake | but i have a feeling about tuxbox |
| 04:41:53 | CoolMan | loki was strngled because nobody kne about it |
| 04:41:57 | Snake | LGME??? bah think, NINJA WARRIOR GAME PRODUCTIONS |
| 04:41:59 | CoolMan | strangled |
| 04:41:59 | Snake | heh |
| 04:42:23 | CoolMan | the tuxbox could set a trend, who knows |
| 04:42:42 | Snake | hopefully it will |
| 04:43:07 | CoolMan | our only recourse is to keep moving, untill we have passed the point of no return |
| 04:43:21 | CoolMan | then, we will have failed or succeded |
| 04:43:53 | CoolMan | and if we fail, then someone will be inspired by our death, like indrema |
| 04:44:04 | CoolMan | thus is the circle of opensource projects |
| 04:44:23 | CoolMan | bah, i'm exhausted and ranting |
| 04:44:24 | Snake | ok you can stop now |
| 04:44:25 | Snake | heh |
| 04:44:34 | CoolMan | what? |
| 04:44:39 | CoolMan | scaring you am I? |
| 04:44:42 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:44:45 | Snake | no |
| 04:44:46 | CoolMan | haahahahahahaha |
| 04:44:47 | Snake | not at all |
| 04:45:12 | CoolMan | realizes he is a flaming loon. |
| 04:45:13 | Snake | i am scared of no-one |
| 04:45:16 | Snake | except my mum |
| 04:45:42 | Snake | she knows to much |
| 04:45:54 | Snake | parents are all one big conspiracy |
| 04:46:02 | CoolMan | i'm scared of your mum too, im wondering if she can ruin me the way she ruined you just by looking at me? |
| 04:46:05 | CoolMan | j/k |
| 04:46:06 | Bakemono | didn't realize coolman swings that way |
| 04:46:16 | travis_143cw | lol, who doesnt? |
| 04:46:16 | Snake | heh |
| 04:46:21 | travis_143cw | i mean... |
| 04:46:22 | travis_143cw | jk |
| 04:46:23 | Snake | the queen? |
| 04:46:26 | Snake | heh |
| 04:46:34 | CoolMan | beats Bakemono to death with a keyboard. |
| 04:46:43 | Snake | helps |
| 04:46:45 | Snake | thatsone down |
| 04:46:50 | Snake | thats one down* |
| 04:47:02 | travis_143cw | stares at the keyboard beating |
| 04:47:04 | CoolMan | yells in the fashon of Tarzan. |
| 04:47:16 | travis_143cw | yells "RODNEY KING!!!" |
| 04:47:21 | CoolMan | beats his manly hairy chest. |
| 04:47:25 | Snake | yells in the fashion of his mum |
| 04:47:43 | Bakemono | leaves |
| 04:47:48 | Snake | SHAUN!!!! DO THE DISHES |
| 04:47:50 | CoolMan | looks at snake in a mixture of horror and disgust. |
| 04:47:50 | travis_143cw | looks at a pic of snakes mom |
| 04:47:52 | Snake | OR NO DINNER |
| 04:48:13 | Snake | shit i always listen to my mum when she threatens me with no dinner |
| 04:48:14 | Snake | heh |
| 04:48:22 | Snake | PICS OF MY MOM!!!??? |
| 04:48:22 | travis_143cw | food is the shit! |
| 04:48:25 | Snake | naughty naughty |
| 04:48:46 | Snake | food is the best |
| 04:48:47 | travis_143cw | except when you puke it up like i did the past 2 days |
| 04:48:52 | Snake | lol |
| 04:48:57 | Snake | nothing beats a homecooked meal |
| 04:49:09 | travis_143cw | we had homemade chili tonight! |
| 04:49:14 | Snake | but somehow i think bake will disagree |
| 04:49:19 | Snake | Chilli? |
| 04:49:23 | Snake | never had it before |
| 04:49:27 | travis_143cw | what?!?!?! |
| 04:49:30 | Bakemono | it's chile people |
| 04:49:31 | Bakemono | chile |
| 04:49:31 | Snake | but i have chillie sauce on my chips |
| 04:49:32 | Snake | heh |
| 04:49:42 | CoolMan | chili is the bomb |
| 04:49:46 | travis_143cw | we are having lasagna tomorrow |
| 04:49:53 | Snake | YUMMMM!!!!! |
| 04:49:53 | Bakemono | isn't much of a chili eater |
| 04:49:57 | CoolMan | i am an avid chili person |
| 04:50:00 | Bakemono | likes japanese food |
| 04:50:03 | travis_143cw | nothing beats mexican food though |
| 04:50:04 | Snake | one of my favourites foods!!!!!! Lasanga |
| 04:50:05 | CoolMan | acually, i love all mexican food |
| 04:50:12 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: I hate mexican food |
| 04:50:14 | Snake | i love chinese food |
| 04:50:23 | CoolMan | high-fives travis. |
| 04:50:25 | Snake | WHA!!!! hate mexican?!!!! |
| 04:50:28 | CoolMan | mexican forever! |
| 04:50:35 | travis_143cw | beats Bakemono with a taco shell and requests CoolMan's help |
| 04:50:52 | Snake | mmm i love nacho's, and Tacho's and Burrito's, and Tortilla's |
| 04:50:54 | Snake | yum yum yum |
| 04:50:55 | Bakemono | I like alot of chinese food |
| 04:50:59 | Bakemono | I like alot of asian food |
| 04:51:00 | CoolMan | eats a habenyero pepper and burps in bakemono's face. |
| 04:51:04 | travis_143cw | chinese is very good too |
| 04:51:14 | travis_143cw | not as good as mexican though |
| 04:51:22 | Bakemono | always prefers his sashimi |
| 04:51:28 | Snake | chinese food it better then all food to me |
| 04:51:31 | Snake | except home cooked |
| 04:51:31 | CoolMan | ahhahahaha, nothing can withstand my death-breath! |
| 04:51:41 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:51:46 | CoolMan | i don't like chinese acually |
| 04:51:50 | Bakemono | oddly though, I can't stand cooked fish |
| 04:51:57 | travis_143cw | chinese in moderation is good.... |
| 04:51:58 | Snake | eats Garlic, Mouldy Bread, Onion and rotten cheese |
| 04:52:05 | Snake | EATE MY BREATHE\ |
| 04:52:36 | Bakemono | prefers his onions cooked |
| 04:52:38 | Snake | dont mess with bake mono after i do this |
| 04:52:45 | Snake | hands bakemono some cheese |
| 04:53:04 | Bakemono | almost to the point of caramelization |
| 04:53:06 | Snake | i like onion of burgers and shit |
| 04:53:21 | travis_143cw | everyone loves pizza though! |
| 04:53:22 | Snake | well not shit literally |
| 04:53:27 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: damn straight!!!! |
| 04:53:29 | Snake | PIZZA!!!!!! |
| 04:53:33 | Snake | YUMMMY!!!!! |
| 04:53:35 | Bakemono | it's the universally loved food |
| 04:53:38 | travis_143cw | dominos, pizza hut, or papa johns?!?!?! |
| 04:53:43 | travis_143cw | Pizza Hut! |
| 04:53:43 | CoolMan | pizza is great |
| 04:53:44 | Bakemono | daminos!!! |
| 04:53:49 | Bakemono | dominos!!! |
| 04:53:49 | Snake | hey we have pizza hut to |
| 04:53:54 | Snake | and dominos |
| 04:53:58 | Snake | and eagel boys pizza |
| 04:54:00 | Bakemono | pizza hut can suck my ballz!!!! |
| 04:54:02 | [57th]cneal | mmm food |
| 04:54:12 | Bakemono | any non-chain pizza is far superior though |
| 04:54:14 | Snake | pizza hut's quality has dropped so much |
| 04:54:19 | travis_143cw | Bakemono: true |
| 04:54:24 | CoolMan | donatoes! |
| 04:54:29 | CoolMan | oh yes! |
| 04:54:35 | CoolMan | mmmmmmm, pizza |
| 04:54:36 | travis_143cw | we have a "Jimmy's Pizza" and it is the shit! |
| 04:54:52 | CoolMan | oh yeah, the little local places allways rock |
| 04:55:00 | Snake | hell yes |
| 04:55:06 | travis_143cw | now i am hungry.... |
| 04:55:10 | CoolMan | but, seriously, you know what's the bomb? |
| 04:55:22 | travis_143cw | what is "da bomb" coolman? |
| 04:55:22 | Snake | what |
| 04:55:24 | Bakemono | no |
| 04:55:27 | CoolMan | kroger frozen pizza! OH YEAH! |
| 04:55:30 | Bakemono | .... |
| 04:55:31 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:55:31 | CoolMan | w00t w00t |
| 04:55:34 | Snake | :/ |
| 04:55:37 | Snake | forzen? |
| 04:55:38 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:55:43 | Snake | frozen?* |
| 04:55:46 | Snake | yuck |
| 04:55:51 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 04:55:55 | Bakemono | he coming back in? |
| 04:55:56 | Bakemono | : / |
| 04:56:05 | Snake | yup |
| 04:56:10 | CoolMan | aaaarrrrgggggg! |
| 04:56:13 | Snake | wb coolman |
| 04:56:20 | CoolMan | this thing takes forever to get back on! |
| 04:56:21 | travis_143cw | hey kroger is not that bad, it is pretty good |
| 04:56:35 | Bakemono | /kick #tuxboxproject travis_143cw |
| 04:56:35 | CoolMan | i don't know what your talking about, kroger is the bomb |
| 04:56:44 | Snake | oh yeah, and green tea is nice (sarcasim) |
| 04:56:58 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:56:59 | Snake | heh |
| 04:57:05 | Bakemono | you peeps are just drawing the ol' kicks outa me tonite! |
| 04:57:19 | Snake | if i was ops you would be kicked outta here |
| 04:57:24 | Bakemono | suck my auto-rejoining-ballz yo! |
| 04:57:33 | travis_143cw | bake, can you handle ops again? |
| 04:57:36 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:57:40 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:57:40 | Bakemono | I' |
| 04:57:41 | Snake | heh |
| 04:57:42 | Bakemono | I'll try |
| 04:57:53 | CoolMan | whimpers. |
| 04:57:57 | CoolMan | not ops! |
| 04:57:59 | CoolMan | anything but ops! |
| 04:58:01 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 04:58:04 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:58:10 | Snake | i have to go to youth group at 7:00 |
| 04:58:17 | Snake | and hang out with all the christians |
| 04:58:24 | Snake | that praise a book |
| 04:58:28 | Snake | and a man on a cross |
| 04:58:29 | Snake | heh |
| 04:58:30 | CoolMan | dude, don't crack on christians |
| 04:58:33 | Bakemono | what's mdoe m? |
| 04:58:34 | Bakemono | mode* |
| 04:58:38 | CoolMan | we are the bomb |
| 04:58:42 | Snake | m+ = moderated |
| 04:58:45 | travis_143cw | mode m, moderated |
| 04:58:47 | Bakemono | ah |
| 04:58:47 | Snake | +m* |
| 04:58:48 | CoolMan | unless you get a pack of wierdoes |
| 04:59:02 | Snake | means if you dont have +o or +v then you cant speak if +m is on |
| 04:59:07 | travis_143cw | i used to be big into christianity |
| 04:59:12 | Snake | same |
| 04:59:26 | [57th]cneal | hu |
| 04:59:26 | Snake | but now i cant even stand the thought of religion |
| 04:59:34 | travis_143cw | but i felt a lot of lies and a lot of false promises. seeing is believing in my world. |
| 04:59:34 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 04:59:34 | Snake | there are three things i hate most in this world |
| 04:59:43 | Snake | Jews,Religion, and vegetarians |
| 04:59:48 | travis_143cw | but i have no problem against christianity at all |
| 04:59:57 | CoolMan | i agree on the vegetarians |
| 05:00:00 | [57th]cneal | agree |
| 05:00:13 | Snake | i hate vegetarians the most of all |
| 05:00:17 | Snake | i cant stand then |
| 05:00:22 | travis_143cw | i love meat |
| 05:00:23 | [57th]cneal | if you cat seit you cnt be it |
| 05:00:25 | Snake | easting there soy patty burgers |
| 05:00:31 | Snake | yuck |
| 05:00:48 | Snake | my english teacher is a vegetarian, and i cant stand her |
| 05:00:51 | Bakemono | what's wrong with vegitarians? |
| 05:00:59 | Snake | they suck ultimo shit |
| 05:01:08 | CoolMan | man, i think you guys got you some bad religion |
| 05:01:12 | [57th]cneal | mmm food |
| 05:01:22 | Snake | i dont have a religion |
| 05:01:25 | travis_143cw | agrees with cneal |
| 05:01:27 | Snake | im an Athiest |
| 05:01:31 | CoolMan | i got the "relationship" stuff |
| 05:01:40 | CoolMan | it totally rocks |
| 05:01:51 | travis_143cw | i am just travis, someday i may go back to church |
| 05:01:56 | travis_143cw | my whole family does |
| 05:02:14 | travis_143cw | i was big into the satan stuff for a while, but that is all pointless in itself |
| 05:02:15 | Snake | i am just shaun, and one day ill go back to killing people |
| 05:02:16 | CoolMan | i know some churches that i don't like |
| 05:02:18 | Snake | i need the money |
| 05:02:23 | Bakemono | Snake: an atheist is one who disbelieves in gods |
| 05:02:34 | Snake | Bakemono: i know |
| 05:02:43 | Bakemono | I don't believe a religion requires a god |
| 05:02:43 | CoolMan | wonders if that means snake doesn't think he exists? |
| 05:02:44 | travis_143cw | church is a good thing i think, i just cant handle it right now |
| 05:02:50 | Snake | its also someone who dosnet have a religion all together |
| 05:02:58 | Bakemono | Snake |
| 05:02:59 | Bakemono | : |
| 05:03:00 | Bakemono | nope |
| 05:03:03 | Snake | bake |
| 05:03:04 | Snake | : |
| 05:03:05 | Snake | yes |
| 05:03:09 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 05:03:09 | CoolMan | ugh |
| 05:03:14 | Snake | Coolman: no i dont think he exists |
| 05:03:15 | Bakemono | you're most wrong there |
| 05:03:19 | Snake | no |
| 05:03:23 | Snake | your most wrong |
| 05:03:29 | CoolMan | he, you mean God? |
| 05:03:35 | Snake | coolman: yes |
| 05:03:41 | travis_143cw | i give CoolMan credit for going to church. |
| 05:03:41 | [57th]cneal | ? |
| 05:03:46 | CoolMan | what if i told you i talked to him |
| 05:03:46 | [57th]cneal | No, I agree with bake |
| 05:03:50 | CoolMan | that he was there? |
| 05:04:00 | CoolMan | talked WITH him, my bad |
| 05:04:15 | Snake | coolman: i would say good for you |
| 05:04:20 | travis_143cw | i have tried that talking to god thing, it never worked for me... but people say they have |
| 05:04:23 | Snake | but it wouldnt make i diff to what i thought |
| 05:04:25 | CoolMan | you wouldn't believe me |
| 05:04:30 | Snake | no |
| 05:04:31 | Bakemono | Snake: you are far to set in your own beliefs |
| 05:04:31 | Snake | i wouldnt |
| 05:04:43 | [57th]cneal | They do or they say they do :\ |
| 05:04:50 | Snake | heh |
| 05:04:54 | Bakemono | that's not gonna help you in life... |
| 05:05:01 | Snake | bakemono: what, say again |
| 05:05:03 | Snake | the thingy before |
| 05:05:10 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: you sya it never "worked" |
| 05:05:16 | Snake | i dont need help in life from religion if thats what you mean |
| 05:05:20 | CoolMan | do i "work" when you talk to me? |
| 05:05:28 | travis_143cw | i think i got turned off from god and church from all the hypocrites at churches |
| 05:05:47 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: the thing is, you actually respond to me. seeing is believing |
| 05:05:47 | CoolMan | travis_143cw: i agree |
| 05:05:55 | CoolMan | you have never seen me |
| 05:06:03 | CoolMan | you have never heard my voice |
| 05:06:04 | travis_143cw | i see your nickname |
| 05:06:14 | travis_143cw | i know there is a guy on the other side typing back to me |
| 05:06:18 | CoolMan | you have been impressed by my exsistence |
| 05:06:19 | Snake | but we are talking on an fucking irc channel not in your head to a god |
| 05:06:20 | Snake | heh |
| 05:06:29 | Bakemono | Snake: one idea gets set in your head and you seem to block all conflicting ideas just for the hell of it |
| 05:06:34 | CoolMan | you see ibot's nickname? |
| 05:06:41 | travis_143cw | lol, dont go there |
| 05:06:43 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 05:06:44 | CoolMan | lol |
| 05:06:46 | CoolMan | haha |
| 05:06:47 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 05:06:48 | CoolMan | i agree |
| 05:06:48 | | yes, [57th]cneal? |
| 05:06:48 | [57th]cneal | ibot? |
| 05:07:05 | Snake | Snake: i have an open mind to it, but i like to believe in something alot and like anyone i supoort my beleifs |
| 05:07:09 | CoolMan | man, about the hypocryte thing |
| 05:07:11 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: you ever dream? |
| 05:07:16 | | i guess i am god |
| 05:07:16 | travis_143cw | ibot: who is ibot? |
| 05:07:29 | travis_143cw | Bakemono: i always dream |
| 05:07:47 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: is what you see in your dreams real? |
| 05:07:48 | CoolMan | just so you all know, i am a bad person |
| 05:07:49 | Snake | bakemono: and dont tell me what i block and dont block, i take it all in |
| 05:08:00 | [57th]cneal | Yes! |
| 05:08:08 | travis_143cw | Bakemono: i wish they were real, you should see the chicks |
| 05:08:13 | Bakemono | Snake: you sure don't give me that impression |
| 05:08:16 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: why do you say that |
| 05:08:20 | travis_143cw | ? |
| 05:08:24 | CoolMan | because i do bad things |
| 05:08:28 | Snake | bakemono: then you dont pickup things that well |
| 05:08:29 | travis_143cw | we all do.... |
| 05:08:33 | CoolMan | you know what a bool is right? |
| 05:08:40 | travis_143cw | yeah.... |
| 05:08:40 | Snake | bool? |
| 05:08:47 | Snake | i love dreaming |
| 05:08:48 | CoolMan | is is eithe TRUE or FALSE |
| 05:08:49 | [57th]cneal | Once I was running away from the bad things running after me |
| 05:08:53 | CoolMan | 1 or 0- |
| 05:08:57 | CoolMan | sorry 0 |
| 05:09:02 | travis_143cw | yeah |
| 05:09:02 | Bakemono | recalls the conversation about a 4th dimension |
| 05:09:05 | Snake | once i jumped off a cliff in my dreams |
| 05:09:15 | [57th]cneal | You did?! |
| 05:09:21 | Snake | Bakemono: i was prooving a point |
| 05:09:28 | Bakemono | exactly |
| 05:09:30 | Snake | recalls the convo about the meaning of athiest |
| 05:09:39 | Bakemono | how do you know you're correct? |
| 05:09:40 | Snake | you wouldnt take in that maybe i was right |
| 05:09:42 | CoolMan | people are inherintly bad, (not that we do bad things all the time) |
| 05:09:47 | travis_143cw | recalls the conversation about pizza hut.... |
| 05:09:48 | Snake | how do you know your correct? |
| 05:09:53 | Bakemono | I don't |
| 05:09:55 | Bakemono | and never do |
| 05:09:55 | Snake | how do you know im not |
| 05:10:00 | Bakemono | and I live life with that attitude |
| 05:10:02 | Snake | i just support what i say |
| 05:10:23 | Snake | whats the point of prooving a point if your willing to just accept anything your told |
| 05:10:24 | Bakemono | Snake: your support came in the form "You're wrong, and I'm right" |
| 05:10:30 | CoolMan | the idea is that Gos forgives me for the things i do wrong |
| 05:10:34 | CoolMan | God |
| 05:10:37 | Snake | no i did not say i was right |
| 05:10:47 | Snake | but i was bringing in facts |
| 05:10:51 | travis_143cw | the thing is, there are so many "gods" every culture seems to have their "god(s)" that they talk to... everyone seems to talk to them, everyone believes there god is the REAL god... what makes christianity different? who says some other god isnt the real god? |
| 05:11:09 | CoolMan | that is why i don't like it when christians judge others |
| 05:11:14 | Bakemono | you repeatedly blurted out things like "There isn't a 4th dimension!! It's impossible! It just can't be!!!" |
| 05:11:19 | [57th]cneal | Maybe there is no real god? |
| 05:11:37 | CoolMan | well, that is a good Q travis |
| 05:11:38 | Snake | Bakemono: go to the convo and quote me on one time i said one of those sentences |
| 05:11:46 | Bakemono | I don't have the logs |
| 05:11:57 | travis_143cw | maybe "god" is just a figment of our imagination that humans "invented" to give us reasons for unexplainable things and support |
| 05:12:13 | Snake | thats what i bleive travis |
| 05:12:18 | CoolMan | the thing is that when you look at everything that there is, there is only one that has all of the puzzle pieces |
| 05:12:27 | Snake | no |
| 05:12:30 | Snake | science |
| 05:12:44 | Bakemono | Snake: you're a big believer in science eh? |
| 05:12:48 | Snake | yup |
| 05:12:49 | [57th]cneal | scifi? |
| 05:12:51 | Bakemono | I was too |
| 05:12:52 | CoolMan | i'm a big believer in science |
| 05:12:59 | travis_143cw | but then again, maybe there is a god... look at us. how did we get here? couldnt be from a fricken dust ball... every part on our body is SOOO complicated, it would take a master to create just one of us.... |
| 05:13:05 | Bakemono | I enjoy the logic of science |
| 05:13:13 | Bakemono | but I have no reason to believe any of it |
| 05:13:15 | Snake | i beleive that there is maybe a spiritual realm of some sort, but nothing like the bible or god and so on |
| 05:13:15 | [57th]cneal | I watch that all the time snake, theres nothing real in scifi |
| 05:13:17 | CoolMan | travis: good thinking |
| 05:13:34 | Snake | cneal you fuckhole scifi isnt real i said SCIENCE |
| 05:13:39 | Snake | heh |
| 05:13:41 | Snake | listen! |
| 05:13:42 | CoolMan | travis: so what do you do? all "religions" have an explaination |
| 05:14:02 | travis_143cw | that is where i am confused and dont do nothing |
| 05:14:10 | travis_143cw | travis kernel panic! |
| 05:14:12 | CoolMan | ok, look at it this way |
| 05:14:20 | CoolMan | i will have you do the thinking bro |
| 05:14:22 | [57th]cneal | Whomever he is, he must be leet |
| 05:14:28 | CoolMan | check all the parts of the bible |
| 05:14:38 | Snake | to be honest i dont beleive in anything, i dont have a craving to know |
| 05:14:41 | CoolMan | its like this |
| 05:14:46 | Snake | my whole purpose in life is to live |
| 05:14:48 | Snake | to survive |
| 05:14:52 | Snake | to do what i feel |
| 05:14:54 | Snake | when i feel |
| 05:14:59 | Snake | and enjoy myself while im still here |
| 05:15:03 | travis_143cw | my whole purpose in life is to reproduce... i mean... =P |
| 05:15:10 | Snake | heh |
| 05:15:29 | Snake | and im talking within reason here |
| 05:15:44 | Snake | im not going to go out and smash up my neighbours house cause i feel like it |
| 05:15:44 | Snake | heh |
| 05:15:55 | [57th]cneal | ? |
| 05:15:55 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: my whole purpose in life is to execute the act of reproduction... |
| 05:15:58 | CoolMan | imagine sombody writing part of an OS kernel, (or other insanely complicated program) and then sombody else writing more of it later, and more and more following the same pattern |
| 05:16:18 | Bakemono | CoolMan: and? |
| 05:16:24 | CoolMan | without ever having talked with the other creators |
| 05:16:25 | Snake | thats evolution you just explained |
| 05:16:39 | Snake | that would turn out screwed |
| 05:16:42 | CoolMan | and never talking to the other creators |
| 05:16:45 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: the day i have tangible proof that god is alive, like Jesus comes into my room and says here i am, and he shows me somethign supernatural, then i can believe for sure |
| 05:16:53 | travis_143cw | "faith" is a hard thing to grasp |
| 05:16:54 | CoolMan | it would turn out like windows at the best |
| 05:17:01 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 05:17:10 | CoolMan | travis: why should he do that? |
| 05:17:12 | [57th]cneal | Maybe they are aliens? |
| 05:17:13 | Snake | Travis: your like me, i need proof before i can beleive something |
| 05:17:17 | Snake | i cant live in blind faith |
| 05:17:32 | [57th]cneal | www.god.com <- proof |
| 05:17:33 | CoolMan | snake: i'm glad you said that, neither can I |
| 05:17:37 | Bakemono | I need proof to believe something |
| 05:17:48 | Bakemono | but I don't think proof (of anything) exists |
| 05:18:08 | [57th]cneal | damn, someone should register that site |
| 05:18:10 | CoolMan | why should Jesus come down here to you and say here i am! when there is proof allready? |
| 05:18:13 | Snake | coolman: but it comes to the point youve obviousely got the proof you needed, and thats good |
| 05:18:16 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: why should he do that? because if he wants his people to be good and believe in him, then he should show himself. He gave us "choice", i havent even seen him as a 100% option yet, i have not seen solid proof in my mind |
| 05:18:23 | Snake | there is no proof |
| 05:18:40 | CoolMan | you say you want proof, yet you reject the proof we have |
| 05:18:46 | CoolMan | for whatever reason |
| 05:18:49 | Snake | what proof? |
| 05:18:57 | CoolMan | the bible |
| 05:19:03 | CoolMan | a mere book |
| 05:19:07 | Snake | thats not proof |
| 05:19:12 | Snake | anyone could write a book |
| 05:19:26 | Snake | maybe not as intanse as the bible |
| 05:19:27 | CoolMan | except that it was written by dozens of people over hundreds of yers |
| 05:19:29 | CoolMan | years |
| 05:19:40 | Snake | so was linux source code |
| 05:19:42 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: i would love to come back to god and that stuff, life was way easier... i just cant handle following a heard of cows, not knowing where they are going, or even who is the leader. i want a 2-way relationship, not just me praying one way. |
| 05:19:42 | CoolMan | and it doesn't contradict itself ever |
| 05:20:02 | CoolMan | dang man, who said praying was one way? |
| 05:20:12 | CoolMan | what was your church, catholic?! |
| 05:20:28 | Snake | catholics, i pity them |
| 05:20:29 | CoolMan | blahblah say these exact words yada yada |
| 05:20:29 | Snake | heh |
| 05:20:34 | Snake | heh |
| 05:20:52 | CoolMan | this cerimony that cerimony (and give us some more money or i damn you to hell) |
| 05:20:57 | travis_143cw | says "god, you here? 10-4." travis listens.... silence... travis asks "god help me with this problem i have..." travis listens again. more silence... |
| 05:21:00 | CoolMan | that sucks |
| 05:21:13 | CoolMan | hmm |
| 05:21:22 | travis_143cw | i was never catholic |
| 05:21:24 | CoolMan | travis, it sounds like you have a problem |
| 05:21:46 | Snake | ive asked god to show himself, my youth told us too |
| 05:21:48 | travis_143cw | catholic church is like an excercise class... stand up sit down, stand up, do some cheast hand thing |
| 05:21:50 | Snake | i saw nothing either |
| 05:22:04 | CoolMan | and, to be honest, there are times when I'm baffled |
| 05:22:11 | Snake | i asked him to himself |
| 05:22:11 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: what is my problem? |
| 05:22:12 | Snake | twice |
| 05:22:14 | CoolMan | but i allways figure it out later |
| 05:22:21 | Snake | he didnt show himself or give a sign |
| 05:22:23 | Snake | noting |
| 05:22:39 | CoolMan | well, I can tell you travis that if you aren't kidding he will make himself known |
| 05:22:46 | CoolMan | he allways has for me |
| 05:22:52 | CoolMan | as for everyone I know |
| 05:23:10 | travis_143cw | just one for sure sign, solid proof that is real to ME, not in a book, but proof that will be real to ME, god should know what is real to ME, i just want to see a little proof |
| 05:23:17 | CoolMan | (and of course if your not opposed to a little X-Files style wierdness) |
| 05:23:30 | CoolMan | travis: i agree again |
| 05:23:55 | CoolMan | like i said, if your ready to talk to him, he will make himself known to you |
| 05:24:06 | travis_143cw | i am not saying i dont believe in god, i am just saying a want a big tap on the shoulder and hearing him say, "Travis, just to let you know, i am here!" |
| 05:24:24 | CoolMan | the only thing that I can say for sure about YOUR relationship with God is that He loves you man |
| 05:24:35 | CoolMan | ok, so pray about it |
| 05:24:48 | CoolMan | be like, dude, I am really strugglin' here |
| 05:24:50 | Snake | now tell me, coolman what do you beleive happens to non believers? |
| 05:24:56 | Snake | when they die |
| 05:24:59 | travis_143cw | well my girlfriend would get pissed if she knew i loved her but NEVER EVER talked to her or she never ever saw me |
| 05:25:04 | CoolMan | i sure don't know if you exist |
| 05:25:08 | travis_143cw | so what is different about god |
| 05:25:32 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: want my phone number? |
| 05:25:34 | CoolMan | God is willing to talk to you, but man you have to be willing to listen to him |
| 05:25:35 | travis_143cw | =P |
| 05:25:38 | [57th]cneal | What happends to anything else when it dies? |
| 05:25:50 | Snake | like computers |
| 05:25:54 | Snake | mainly windows ones |
| 05:25:58 | CoolMan | snake: you want to know what happens to unsaved when they die? |
| 05:26:02 | Bakemono | travis_143cw: you haven't told your g/f you love here? |
| 05:26:04 | Bakemono | her* |
| 05:26:09 | CoolMan | snake: they burn in hell for eternity? |
| 05:26:11 | travis_143cw | yes i have bake |
| 05:26:19 | travis_143cw | we have been together for just about 22 months |
| 05:26:22 | CoolMan | was that what you were looking for? |
| 05:26:32 | Snake | coolman: now that i know for sure isnt true |
| 05:26:37 | CoolMan | why? |
| 05:26:46 | CoolMan | i'm open to new proofs |
| 05:26:48 | Snake | because the bible dosent say that |
| 05:26:57 | Bakemono | oh |
| 05:27:46 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 05:27:46 | CoolMan | what bible were you looking at? |
| 05:27:46 | CoolMan | brb |
| 05:27:46 | CoolMan | is getting his bible if snake want to be that way... |
| 05:27:49 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: i believe in god mostly because I have seen satan do awful things to my friends... god must exist and i know it is a lot better than the other side.... i just want more proof |
| 05:27:50 | Snake | te bible never once mentions that you will fall into a big room with fire and burn |
| 05:28:03 | travis_143cw | Snake: i believe it does |
| 05:28:26 | Snake | you are all the same, you read the bible to literally |
| 05:28:41 | Snake | when it says the roads are pathed with gold, thay are not pathed with gold |
| 05:28:53 | Snake | it just means its a beautiful place |
| 05:28:54 | Bakemono | Snake: maybe it's supposed to be literal |
| 05:29:17 | Snake | Bakemono: thats not what it says in the bible |
| 05:29:23 | travis_143cw | Snake: god can do whatever he wants... he could have gold everything |
| 05:29:27 | CoolMan | For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 |
| 05:29:40 | Bakemono | Snake: |
| 05:29:44 | Bakemono | what does it say then? |
| 05:29:52 | Snake | it dosent |
| 05:29:54 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: good call |
| 05:30:07 | Bakemono | ? |
| 05:30:10 | CoolMan | i have more |
| 05:30:14 | travis_143cw | spit them out |
| 05:30:14 | CoolMan | in a minute |
| 05:30:24 | Snake | yes he can have gold |
| 05:30:31 | Snake | but he's not greedy |
| 05:30:35 | Snake | he''s the perfect being |
| 05:30:39 | CoolMan | doesn't have his Bible memorized... |
| 05:30:39 | Snake | he's* |
| 05:30:43 | travis_143cw | well either way i would rather be in heaven then hell... just the logical choice. |
| 05:31:21 | Snake | well who wouldnt |
| 05:31:25 | Snake | heh |
| 05:31:45 | CoolMan | of course |
| 05:32:01 | travis_143cw | but i still dont like christian music that much... i really do like P.O.D. though |
| 05:32:01 | CoolMan | see, God doesn't want any of us in hell |
| 05:32:10 | CoolMan | dude, check www.nsoul.com |
| 05:32:18 | CoolMan | if you like techno |
| 05:32:24 | Bakemono | haha |
| 05:32:35 | CoolMan | hehe, if you want to know, I am the MAN on christian music |
| 05:32:39 | travis_143cw | ah, damn shockwave! |
| 05:32:44 | Snake | yes then why will i go to hell because i dont beleive, he is not showing me himself, so i dont beleive, therefore igo to hell |
| 05:32:44 | CoolMan | it's all i listen to |
| 05:33:09 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: one of my favorite bands is Cradle of Filth, christian music cant touch that |
| 05:33:18 | CoolMan | but snake, he has given all the proof he needs to give |
| 05:33:28 | CoolMan | i have never heard it |
| 05:33:29 | travis_143cw | Tool is my favorite band ever, no christian artist is that talented. period. |
| 05:33:40 | travis_143cw | www.cradleoffilth.com |
| 05:33:50 | CoolMan | what style of music? |
| 05:34:00 | travis_143cw | black death metal |
| 05:34:02 | CoolMan | hard screaming stuff? |
| 05:34:05 | travis_143cw | oh yes |
| 05:34:20 | CoolMan | Project 86 |
| 05:34:21 | Snake | Coolman: but if he is so smart and great he wouldnt of given more for people like me, and if not then he is not giving us a chance for eternal life, so he would be the biggest murdere ever |
| 05:34:24 | CoolMan | anyday |
| 05:34:36 | travis_143cw | they have a shirt that says in huge black letters on the back "Jesus is a Cunt" |
| 05:34:44 | travis_143cw | i have seen project86 live twice |
| 05:34:54 | travis_143cw | cradle of filth has that shirt |
| 05:35:21 | travis_143cw | i saw project with POD and hedpe... i have talked to project and even have all of their autographs! |
| 05:35:30 | Snake | also in that verse you said god gave his only son blah blah it still didnt say anything abour hell |
| 05:35:34 | Snake | it said we would perish |
| 05:35:43 | Snake | not fall into a put of fuire and burn for eternity |
| 05:35:47 | Snake | fire* |
| 05:35:48 | CoolMan | Snake: And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 |
| 05:35:54 | travis_143cw | i have the autographs right here, they even sign their names with bible pasages, that is kinda cool |
| 05:36:32 | Snake | heh |
| 05:36:38 | CoolMan | travis: did you know that Alice Cooper is a christian now? |
| 05:37:01 | travis_143cw | yeah i heard, i cant find his christian cd though |
| 05:37:05 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 05:37:05 | travis_143cw | i love cooper |
| 05:37:11 | CoolMan | i could get that to you |
| 05:37:18 | travis_143cw | "my last temptation" - isnt that it? |
| 05:37:21 | Snake | so god will make us suffer for not prooving himself to us? |
| 05:37:24 | Snake | well thats nice |
| 05:37:28 | Snake | he is so great |
| 05:37:30 | Snake | i love him now |
| 05:37:39 | travis_143cw | lol@snake |
| 05:37:42 | CoolMan | And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20:10 |
| 05:37:50 | Snake | theres my point |
| 05:37:51 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: where can you buy it? |
| 05:37:56 | travis_143cw | no where in MN lol |
| 05:38:42 | travis_143cw | i have an alice cooper poster in my room and 2 small alice pics |
| 05:38:48 | travis_143cw | hangin on the wall |
| 05:39:13 | [57th]cneal | Just live life and enjoy it |
| 05:39:22 | travis_143cw | just live and eat well |
| 05:39:34 | Snake | Coolman: you are just saying more and more old saint peters will toss us into a hole and we will be torured, how the fuck is that supposed to make me love god? |
| 05:39:35 | [57th]cneal | no need to think about anything else, *adds food |
| 05:40:25 | Snake | i cant love a god knowning that he would even consider doing something like that |
| 05:40:38 | Snake | if you didnt beleive in me i wouldnt kill you |
| 05:40:41 | Snake | or torute you |
| 05:40:46 | Snake | torture* |
| 05:40:48 | travis_143cw | i still think the TuxBox band would be a good idea.. i insist on Snake singing though, so we could hear more funny ninja stuff |
| 05:40:59 | Snake | heh |
| 05:41:01 | Snake | i cant sing |
| 05:41:02 | Snake | :P |
| 05:41:22 | [57th]cneal | Bakes got a shoutcast server if we ever wanted to start something like that |
| 05:42:02 | [57th]cneal | cya halfof server |
| 05:42:02 | travis_143cw | haha zahn! |
| 05:42:04 | Snake | net slpit |
| 05:42:13 | Snake | split* |
| 05:42:15 | Snake | heh |
| 05:42:53 | Snake | Im i 1337 ninja!, im a 1337 ninja, i like to find girls and use the onld finga! I like to use my 1337 ninja skillz0rs, i cut up a cow to eat its fillitz0rs!!!! |
| 05:42:55 | CoolMan | that's what it said on my screen |
| 05:43:02 | CoolMan | WB everyone! |
| 05:43:10 | [57th]cneal | wb you |
| 05:43:15 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 05:43:16 | Bakemono | ... |
| 05:43:21 | Snake | wb bake and coolman |
| 05:43:24 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 05:43:25 | [57th]cneal | Your the ones that left, not us |
| 05:43:25 | Bakemono | no no |
| 05:43:27 | CoolMan | did we go away for a couple minutes? |
| 05:43:30 | CoolMan | hahaha |
| 05:43:31 | Bakemono | wb everyone but coolman |
| 05:43:39 | Snake | your server split from us |
| 05:43:44 | travis_143cw | "31337 ninja hax0rs, we are skillz0rs" |
| 05:43:45 | CoolMan | the openprojects network fell apart for a second |
| 05:43:45 | Bakemono | no |
| 05:43:52 | Bakemono | I think your server split from OURS |
| 05:43:52 | CoolMan | odd |
| 05:43:57 | Bakemono | YOUR* |
| 05:43:58 | Snake | NO |
| 05:44:03 | Snake | YOURS plsit from OURS |
| 05:44:05 | [57th]cneal | bah |
| 05:44:06 | Snake | lol |
| 05:44:07 | Snake | :P |
| 05:44:11 | CoolMan | children chidren... |
| 05:44:12 | Snake | who cares anywayz |
| 05:44:13 | Snake | heh |
| 05:44:15 | CoolMan | j/k |
| 05:44:18 | CoolMan | lol |
| 05:44:24 | travis_143cw | bake, cool, and coderjoe left us... (zahn.openprojects.net) |
| 05:44:31 | Snake | recalls how you and me was fighting coolman |
| 05:44:47 | CoolMan | travis: you wanted to know about that CD? |
| 05:44:52 | [57th]cneal | zahn is a leaf of this server (not the main server) ours is |
| 05:44:53 | CoolMan | that alice cooper CD? |
| 05:44:57 | travis_143cw | my irc server is better than yours!!!! |
| 05:45:07 | | coolman is probably cool because . . . |
| 05:45:07 | travis_143cw | yes coolman? |
| 05:45:15 | | Sorry, travis_143cw, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 05:45:15 | travis_143cw | ibot: shutup |
| 05:45:16 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 05:45:22 | Snake | heh |
| 05:45:24 | Snake | snake? |
| 05:45:25 | | [57th]cneal? |
| 05:45:25 | [57th]cneal | ibot |
| 05:45:30 | | i heard snake was a 1337 Hax0r |
| 05:45:30 | Snake | ibot snake? |
| 05:45:31 | CoolMan | i can get the info tomorrow and give it to you |
| 05:45:39 | [57th]cneal | Does ibot shutup really work? |
| 05:45:45 | Snake | no |
| 05:45:46 | Snake | heh' |
| 05:45:46 | CoolMan | not allways |
| 05:45:48 | [57th]cneal | oh |
| 05:45:56 | travis_143cw | CoolMan: i would like that CD |
| 05:46:06 | | CoolMan: excuse me? |
| 05:46:06 | CoolMan | ibot swore at me once for saying ibot shut up |
| 05:46:19 | [57th]cneal | :o |
| 05:46:20 | travis_143cw | coolman... |
| 05:46:23 | Snake | he did? |
| 05:46:23 | | [57th]cneal: I forgot shutup |
| 05:46:23 | [57th]cneal | ibot forget shutup |
| 05:46:26 | CoolMan | yes travis? |
| 05:46:29 | travis_143cw | can you order that online/ |
| 05:46:31 | | OK, [57th]cneal. |
| 05:46:31 | [57th]cneal | ibot shutup is No, I wont do it |
| 05:46:34 | [57th]cneal | :D |
| 05:46:46 | | Sorry, Snake, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 05:46:46 | Snake | ibot shutup |
| 05:46:47 | CoolMan | i think so, i will find out the record label and see if you can order it from them |
| 05:46:50 | | Sorry, travis_143cw, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 05:46:50 | travis_143cw | ibot: shutup |
| 05:46:51 | [57th]cneal | :o |
| 05:47:03 | travis_143cw | thanks CoolMan |
| 05:47:03 | Snake | see you cant reprogramme that into ibot |
| 05:47:08 | | [57th]cneal: excuse me? |
| 05:47:08 | [57th]cneal | ibot die |
| 05:47:11 | [57th]cneal | Hmm |
| 05:47:11 | CoolMan | that's what i did just recently for this one CD |
| 05:47:16 | CoolMan | E-Majin |
| 05:47:21 | | OK, [57th]cneal. |
| 05:47:21 | [57th]cneal | ibot die is /quit Killed by 1337 haz0r |
| 05:47:23 | CoolMan | by cloud2ground |
| 05:47:28 | | die is probably /quit Killed by 1337 haz0r |
| 05:47:28 | [57th]cneal | ibot die |
| 05:47:34 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 05:47:39 | [57th]cneal | :\ |
| 05:47:41 | Snake | hahaha |
| 05:47:44 | Snake | i tried that too |
| 05:47:49 | CoolMan | i wanted that CD so bad, finally ordered it directly from NSOUL records |
| 05:47:51 | Snake | you can trick the bot into that |
| 05:47:54 | | [57th]cneal: i'm not following you... |
| 05:47:54 | [57th]cneal | ibot flood |
| 05:47:57 | [57th]cneal | fu |
| 05:48:07 | | Snake: huh? |
| 05:48:07 | Snake | ibot: eat your own anus |
| 05:48:07 | [57th]cneal | What happened to flood |
| 05:48:14 | | [57th]cneal? |
| 05:48:14 | [57th]cneal | ibot |
| 05:48:16 | travis_143cw | well i have a test in a few hours... so i better get some sleep |
| 05:48:26 | Snake | ok |
| 05:48:28 | Snake | good night |
| 05:48:33 | travis_143cw | nite all! |
| 05:48:36 | CoolMan | traivs: you might want to try www.radiou.com if you have bandwidth for internet radio |
| 05:48:37 | [57th]cneal | c |
| 05:48:37 | Snake | ill work on the site tongiht |
| 05:48:40 | Snake | bye |
| 05:48:53 | [57th]cneal | site? |
| 05:49:23 | | i don't know, snake |
| 05:49:23 | Snake | ibot flood? |
| 05:49:27 | Snake | fugg |
| 05:49:35 | Snake | cneal: yes , site |
| 05:50:14 | | that entry is too long, [57th]cneal |
| 05:50:14 | | OK, [57th]cneal. |
| 05:50:14 | [57th]cneal | ibot flood is FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:50:14 | [57th]cneal | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:50:14 | Snake | oh shit |
| 05:50:15 | [57th]cneal | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:50:18 | Snake | i have to go |
| 05:50:20 | [57th]cneal | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:50:23 | Snake | bye all |
| 05:50:26 | [57th]cneal | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD |
| 05:50:27 | Snake | bye bye for now |
| 05:50:28 | CoolMan | i have to go to sleep myslef, goodnight |
| 05:50:31 | Bakemono | : / |
| 05:50:35 | Snake | night coolman |
| 05:50:36 | CoolMan | lol |
| 05:50:36 | [57th]cneal | woops |
| 05:50:39 | Bakemono | /ban [57th]cneal |
| 05:50:40 | CoolMan | night all |
| 05:50:46 | [57th]cneal | no! |
| 05:50:46 | travis|sleep | is gone |
| 05:50:50 | Bakemono | travis|sleep!! |
| 05:50:50 | Snake | heh |
| 05:50:55 | travis|sleep | yes bake? |
| 05:50:55 | Bakemono | CoolMan!!! |
| 05:50:58 | Bakemono | !!!! |
| 05:51:00 | Bakemono | NO!!!! |
| 05:51:04 | Snake | bye bye |
| 05:51:07 | Snake | cyaz later |
| 05:51:19 | travis|sleep | bake, test in morning, need sleep |
| 05:51:26 | travis|sleep | date tomorrow night, need sleep |
| 05:51:34 | Snake | night travis |
| 05:51:37 | Snake | shit |
| 05:51:39 | [57th]cneal | damn, mIRC does not let you enter more than some few charaters |
| 05:51:40 | travis|sleep | goodnight snake |
| 05:51:42 | Snake | i realy have to go |
| 05:51:45 | Snake | i got youth |
| 05:51:46 | Snake | bye |
| 05:51:48 | travis|sleep | is really gone now |
| 05:54:08 | {55th}Sephiroth | hi |
| 05:54:43 | | hmmm... Bakemono is .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. |
| 05:54:43 | {55th}Sephiroth | ibot: Bakemono |
| 05:54:55 | Bakemono | .... |
| 05:55:01 | | {55th}Sephiroth: sorry... |
| 05:55:01 | {55th}Sephiroth | ibot Bakemono stupid |
| 05:55:05 | Bakemono | snake just left |
| 05:55:05 | {55th}Sephiroth | hi bake |
| 05:55:14 | {55th}Sephiroth | i no |
| 05:55:22 | {55th}Sephiroth | he goin to youth group |
| 05:55:31 | {55th}Sephiroth | zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 05:55:43 | {55th}Sephiroth | is any1 christian in here |
| 05:55:54 | Bakemono | no |
| 05:56:01 | {55th}Sephiroth | k |
| 05:56:04 | Bakemono | all the christians just went to bed |
| 05:56:09 | {55th}Sephiroth | coss it this borin christian thing |
| 05:56:21 | {55th}Sephiroth | and the praise the lord and stuff |
| 05:56:24 | {55th}Sephiroth | and play games |
| 05:56:31 | {55th}Sephiroth | zzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 05:56:59 | [57th]cneal | play games? |
| 05:57:16 | {55th}Sephiroth | like |
| 05:57:19 | {55th}Sephiroth | water fights |
| 05:57:32 | [57th]cneal | :D |
| 05:57:40 | Bakemono | : | |
| 05:57:47 | {55th}Sephiroth | i like water fights |
| 05:57:52 | [57th]cneal | War fights are fun! |
| 05:58:00 | {55th}Sephiroth | how old r u two? |
| 05:58:20 | [57th]cneal | www.wwii.com |
| 05:58:53 | Bakemono | turning 34 next week |
| 05:59:04 | [57th]cneal | http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiol/index.jsp <- Sucky graphics, fun game play |
| 05:59:30 | Bakemono | it's a picture of evilfly!!!! |
| 05:59:36 | Bakemono | whops |
| 05:59:37 | Bakemono | wrong channel |
| 06:01:57 | {55th}Sephiroth | lol |
| 06:31:20 | nickels | who is here |
| 06:34:01 | Bakemono | hey man |
| 06:34:51 | Bakemono | magister: you wanna see a pic of EvilFly? |
| 06:39:44 | nickels | hey |
| 06:39:51 | nickels | you still here? |
| 11:31:54 | travis|sleep | damn.. everyone left rapidly |
| 21:33:16 | [57th]cneal | hiho |
| 21:33:30 | Bakemono | diddly doe |
| 21:33:43 | Bakemono | I got the OS bootin' last night |
| 21:34:05 | [57th]cneal | Tuxbox OS? |
| 21:34:05 | Bakemono | but for some reason I couldn't get the nvidia drivers to work |
| 21:34:07 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 21:34:11 | [57th]cneal | Cool |
| 21:34:13 | [57th]cneal | Send it over |
| 21:34:26 | Bakemono | it's massive |
| 21:34:35 | [57th]cneal | No |
| 21:34:39 | [57th]cneal | Oh how big? |
| 21:34:47 | [57th]cneal | Can you mail it to me? |
| 21:34:48 | Bakemono | not sure |
| 21:35:01 | Bakemono | on a CD in the mail maybe :P |
| 21:35:06 | Bakemono | I'll commit it to CVS later tonite |
| 21:35:07 | [57th]cneal | Ok :D |
| 21:35:16 | [57th]cneal | Thx |
| 21:35:16 | Bakemono | and let source forge take care of it :P |
| 21:35:30 | [57th]cneal | Dont give it out! Its TOP SECRET! |
| 21:35:42 | Bakemono | GeForce4 specs are up on the nvidia site |
| 21:35:48 | [57th]cneal | Only the smurfs can know about our secrets |
| 21:35:56 | Bakemono | smurf.c? |
| 21:36:21 | Bakemono | 136 million triangles per second...mmm.... |
| 21:36:22 | [57th]cneal | Check out http://www.alliedhq.wwiionline.com/~mmac/warroom.php |
| 21:36:43 | [57th]cneal | Do you want me to send you a blank cd or do you have some? |
| 21:36:57 | Bakemono | ?? |
| 21:37:04 | Bakemono | you really want it in the mail?? |
| 21:37:06 | [57th]cneal | Arent you going to mail me the OS? |
| 21:37:17 | [57th]cneal | I need linux so bad! |
| 21:37:29 | Bakemono | how bigs your down pipe? |
| 21:37:32 | [57th]cneal | Earlie today I got I got the blue screen! |
| 21:37:36 | Bakemono | (from the internet) |
| 21:37:45 | [57th]cneal | OMG! THE BLUE SCREEN!! |
| 21:37:52 | [57th]cneal | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:37:57 | [57th]cneal | I have cable |
| 21:38:11 | [57th]cneal | Well, I'm on a lan so I get cable :P |
| 21:38:17 | Bakemono | screw that then |
| 21:38:23 | Bakemono | download it from sf |
| 21:38:24 | Bakemono | :P |
| 21:38:59 | [57th]cneal | :( |
| 21:54:57 | [57th]cneal|afk | brb |
| 22:17:25 | Bakemono|TB | anyone here? |
| 23:33:29 | Bake|TB | anyone alive? |