| 00:57:31 | BrightBlade | ...... |
| 01:15:10 | | hola, BrightBlade |
| 01:15:10 | BrightBlade | hi |
| 01:15:20 | ag3nt | y0 |
| 01:21:48 | BrightBlade | whats up? |
| 01:22:08 | ag3nt | nothing much |
| 01:22:17 | ag3nt | my regular chan favoring lameness |
| 01:22:19 | ag3nt | :p |
| 01:22:27 | ag3nt | is now sure he will be moving on soon |
| 01:22:43 | BrightBlade | umm ok |
| 01:23:04 | ag3nt | shrugs |
| 01:37:30 | Snake | allo all |
| 01:37:35 | ag3nt_0rang3 | y0 |
| 01:37:42 | Snake | hey agent |
| 01:37:57 | ag3nt_0rang3 | hey |
| 01:38:15 | Snake | wassup |
| 01:38:16 | Snake | ? |
| 01:38:23 | ag3nt_0rang3 | nothing much |
| 01:38:29 | ag3nt_0rang3 | windows update |
| 01:38:30 | ag3nt_0rang3 | :p |
| 01:38:45 | Snake | heh |
| 01:38:50 | Snake | windowz XP? |
| 01:38:50 | ag3nt_0rang3 | gets repetitive after a while on 56k |
| 01:38:54 | ag3nt_0rang3 | 2k |
| 01:39:38 | Snake | lol |
| 01:52:29 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 01:52:35 | ag3nt_0rang3 | y0 |
| 01:52:39 | CoolMan | hey yo |
| 01:52:56 | CoolMan | have you checked the scene today? |
| 01:53:00 | ag3nt_0rang3 | nope |
| 01:53:03 | ag3nt_0rang3 | what did I miss? |
| 01:53:04 | CoolMan | a major step was taken |
| 01:53:11 | ag3nt_0rang3 | whats that? |
| 01:53:14 | CoolMan | i released a screen of the UI |
| 01:53:21 | CoolMan | called smoke |
| 01:53:36 | CoolMan | the UI is called smoke that is |
| 01:53:41 | ag3nt_0rang3 | werent you working on it just a few days ago? |
| 01:53:51 | CoolMan | was then, still am |
| 01:54:01 | CoolMan | but a released a screenshot |
| 01:54:21 | ag3nt_0rang3 | doesn't see it on the screenshots page |
| 01:54:33 | CoolMan | also updated my webpage with a development journal |
| 01:54:38 | ag3nt_0rang3 | ah I se |
| 01:54:40 | ag3nt_0rang3 | *see |
| 01:54:48 | CoolMan | http://opengbgames.sf.net/tuxpage/ |
| 01:55:55 | CoolMan | i will be releasing a VERY alpha version of smoke, a near final version of the DGI and i might lock in the specs soon |
| 01:56:02 | ag3nt_0rang3 | what exactly does UI stand for ? |
| 01:56:11 | CoolMan | User Interface |
| 01:56:16 | ag3nt_0rang3 | smacks himself |
| 01:56:30 | CoolMan | it's basically all of the software that is permenantly on the TuxBox |
| 01:56:36 | CoolMan | that is not linux |
| 01:56:49 | ag3nt_0rang3 | what is it if not linux? |
| 01:56:59 | CoolMan | it's not the core OS |
| 01:57:15 | CoolMan | it's a program that runs under linux |
| 01:58:14 | ag3nt_0rang3 | like a windowmanager? |
| 01:58:17 | ag3nt_0rang3 | or more like dos |
| 01:58:22 | ag3nt_0rang3 | dos/bash |
| 01:58:31 | CoolMan | hmmmmm |
| 01:58:35 | CoolMan | like win3.1 |
| 01:58:55 | [57th]cneal|afk | spookie |
| 02:00:23 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 02:00:37 | [57th]cneal | Hey coolman, are you adding mouse support to your UI? |
| 02:00:48 | CoolMan | brb |
| 02:00:59 | ag3nt_0rang3 | k |
| 02:02:09 | [57th]cneal | is away: I am going to get a candy barurar |
| 02:02:23 | CoolMan | back |
| 02:02:47 | ag3nt_0rang3 | wb |
| 02:02:59 | CoolMan | like win3.1 only LOTS better |
| 02:03:01 | CoolMan | of course |
| 02:03:09 | ag3nt_0rang3 | cool |
| 02:03:21 | ag3nt_0rang3 | havent tried 3.1 yet though |
| 02:03:28 | CoolMan | just that it works with the OS without ever showing the user the OS |
| 02:03:44 | CoolMan | Win 3.1 was basically just a gui on top of DOS |
| 02:04:05 | CoolMan | did sombody ask about mous support? |
| 02:04:09 | CoolMan | mouse |
| 02:04:09 | ag3nt_0rang3 | severely limited functionality outside of dos? |
| 02:04:14 | ag3nt_0rang3 | yeah [57th]cneal did |
| 02:04:17 | CoolMan | oh |
| 02:04:24 | CoolMan | hes gone now i guess |
| 02:04:44 | CoolMan | acually, i used win3.1 over win95 for a long time |
| 02:04:58 | Snake | oh shit |
| 02:05:03 | CoolMan | of course then i found linux and made the whole point moot |
| 02:05:06 | Snake | how long have you guys been alking |
| 02:05:07 | ag3nt_0rang3 | y0 kami |
| 02:05:10 | |Kami| | heya |
| 02:05:13 | CoolMan | hey all |
| 02:05:22 | ag3nt_0rang3 | since 20:54 |
| 02:05:22 | Snake | my client was making sounds but wasent displaying the text |
| 02:05:27 | CoolMan | Snake: a long time now |
| 02:05:31 | CoolMan | oic |
| 02:05:32 | Snake | shit |
| 02:05:38 | Snake | well i missed th whole convo heh |
| 02:05:45 | |Kami| | wassup |
| 02:05:45 | CoolMan | we aren't done yet |
| 02:05:50 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:05:52 | ag3nt_0rang3 | lol |
| 02:06:00 | CoolMan | i have this sweet idea |
| 02:06:07 | Snake | Kami: fuse with piccolo before cell gets away |
| 02:06:08 | Snake | :P |
| 02:06:12 | CoolMan | i'm laying it out in a forum post |
| 02:06:16 | Snake | k |
| 02:06:29 | ag3nt_0rang3 | cool |
| 02:06:43 | |Kami| | bah |
| 02:06:50 | ag3nt_0rang3 | now I remember the name! |
| 02:06:55 | |Kami| | snake don't make me step on you, grow some legs :P |
| 02:06:55 | CoolMan | theres this annual event that takes place in my state |
| 02:06:56 | ag3nt_0rang3 | knew it rang a bell |
| 02:10:35 | CoolMan | still gathering info for my post |
| 02:11:21 | ag3nt_0rang3 | waits patiently |
| 02:11:27 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:12:20 | |Kami| | hrm |
| 02:12:26 | |Kami| | I'm kinda lost on this tuxbox |
| 02:12:35 | CoolMan | ask a question |
| 02:12:42 | Snake | yeah ask away |
| 02:12:42 | |Kami| | are you guys gonna make them or are you gonna post the hardware for us to build? |
| 02:12:53 | Snake | we are gonna make them |
| 02:12:57 | CoolMan | we will probably build them |
| 02:13:04 | |Kami| | I see.. |
| 02:13:05 | |Kami| | heh |
| 02:14:00 | CoolMan | check in the general forum |
| 02:14:03 | CoolMan | for my post |
| 02:14:07 | |Kami| | k |
| 02:14:19 | CoolMan | i have to go, but I will be back in maybe 10 min |
| 02:14:24 | Snake | k |
| 02:15:01 | ag3nt_0rang3 | k |
| 02:15:13 | Snake | hamvention? |
| 02:15:14 | Snake | lol |
| 02:15:17 | Snake | sounds cool |
| 02:16:26 | Snake | but then again, since when was it cool to be cool? |
| 02:16:57 | Snake | j/k |
| 02:17:39 | Snake | coolman |
| 02:17:46 | Snake | whats a flagship title? |
| 02:18:13 | ag3nt_0rang3 | hms or hmf I think |
| 02:20:14 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 00:18:05) |
| 02:20:32 | [57th]cneal | 18min si leet! |
| 02:20:52 | CoolMan | back |
| 02:21:22 | Snake | wb |
| 02:21:27 | [57th]cneal | hi |
| 02:21:30 | CoolMan | Snake: a flagship is the ship at the head of a fleet |
| 02:21:31 | Snake | coolman: whats a flagship title? |
| 02:21:49 | CoolMan | hence the name flagship title being one of the first games |
| 02:21:55 | [57th]cneal | So how are you going to have people navigate your UI coolman? |
| 02:22:11 | CoolMan | right now, keyboard |
| 02:22:25 | CoolMan | untill we have the controller working right |
| 02:22:33 | [57th]cneal | mah buggar |
| 02:22:35 | Kami | O.o |
| 02:22:39 | CoolMan | have you seen the shot? |
| 02:22:44 | Kami | I should sue my cable isp |
| 02:22:56 | CoolMan | Kami: WB |
| 02:23:14 | [57th]cneal | I tought we were using the one with the two joysticks |
| 02:23:24 | CoolMan | the wingman rumblepad |
| 02:23:32 | [57th]cneal | yea |
| 02:23:34 | CoolMan | it comes in both wired and wireless |
| 02:23:50 | [57th]cneal | cost difference? |
| 02:24:04 | CoolMan | like $10 |
| 02:24:10 | Snake | y not use the cheaper one, what have two joysticks aswell |
| 02:24:20 | Snake | ans that looks good? |
| 02:24:37 | CoolMan | the user will dicide |
| 02:24:40 | CoolMan | decide |
| 02:24:44 | CoolMan | they will both work |
| 02:25:00 | Snake | you mean the Thrust Master? |
| 02:25:06 | CoolMan | no |
| 02:25:18 | CoolMan | the Logitech Wingman RumblePad |
| 02:25:22 | Snake | ok show me the two contorllers you think we should use? |
| 02:25:34 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 02:25:56 | CoolMan | travis, bakemono and I picked the Logitech Wingman RumblePad |
| 02:25:59 | Snake | well show me a website |
| 02:26:05 | Snake | i wanna see it |
| 02:26:26 | Snake | you mean that Saitek one? |
| 02:27:34 | Snake | ... |
| 02:28:39 | Snake | ahhh |
| 02:28:41 | Snake | ill use google |
| 02:29:00 | Snake | ack |
| 02:29:12 | Snake | thats the ugliest controller i even seen .heh. |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | http://www.logitech.com/cf/products/productoverview.cfm/76 |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | was getting it |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | the onl thing is kernel compatability |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | i can't do that alone |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | if at all, because of the UI, my hands are full |
| 02:31:24 | CoolMan | hello?!?! |
| 02:31:26 | CoolMan | anybody there?! |
| 02:31:28 | CoolMan | my internet freaked |
| 02:31:41 | [57th]cneal | heh :) |
| 02:31:57 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 02:32:00 | | hello, [57th]cneal |
| 02:32:00 | [57th]cneal | hi |
| 02:32:03 | CoolMan | someone still there? |
| 02:32:05 | [57th]cneal | hi ibot |
| 02:32:17 | | i guess coolman is cool because . . . |
| 02:32:17 | [57th]cneal | ibot, who is coolman? |
| 02:32:23 | [57th]cneal | :p |
| 02:32:34 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:32:49 | CoolMan | sorry, my internet just blew me away |
| 02:33:05 | ag3nt_0rang3 | knows the feeling |
| 02:33:13 | CoolMan | what did you think about my idea? |
| 02:33:52 | [57th]cneal | Well, $10 does not seem like much of a difference however we do have the option to use the less cost and then go up to wireless with out having to change much or anything at all with the tuxbox |
| 02:34:09 | CoolMan | i'm saying that the user can decide |
| 02:34:18 | CoolMan | when they buy their extra controllers |
| 02:34:21 | CoolMan | because |
| 02:34:28 | CoolMan | both controllers will work |
| 02:34:40 | [57th]cneal | yeah |
| 02:34:42 | CoolMan | (i am fairly sure) |
| 02:34:47 | CoolMan | they are the same |
| 02:35:07 | CoolMan | however, i need help implementing kernel support |
| 02:35:09 | [57th]cneal | As long as the controls do not change, that should work |
| 02:35:20 | CoolMan | well, the protocol |
| 02:36:54 | CoolMan | hey, guys, my dad is going to test another packet filter for our internet |
| 02:37:07 | CoolMan | so, i might dissapear for a minuet or so |
| 02:37:18 | [57th]cneal | ok |
| 02:37:26 | [57th]cneal | have fun :) |
| 02:37:32 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:38:31 | CoolMan | so what does everyone think about the hamvention thing? |
| 02:38:43 | [57th]cneal | hamversion? |
| 02:38:51 | CoolMan | hamvention |
| 02:38:55 | CoolMan | check my post |
| 02:39:05 | Snake | it sounds goos for publicity |
| 02:39:09 | Snake | if its that huge |
| 02:39:15 | Snake | good* |
| 02:39:24 | CoolMan | http://www.tuxboxproject.com/tforum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=196 |
| 02:39:36 | CoolMan | yeah, it should rock |
| 02:39:45 | CoolMan | we could get some sales off |
| 02:39:59 | CoolMan | and it's small enough that if we blow it (somehow) |
| 02:40:11 | CoolMan | we could go to another expo and try again |
| 02:40:18 | [57th]cneal | Hey travis, we found out who this fake travis kids real name is Daniel_C_McKinnon |
| 02:41:58 | [57th]cneal | Theres lots of expos here in san diego |
| 02:42:13 | Snake | how are we going to get the case ready |
| 02:42:31 | Snake | why the fuck is everyone suggesting we use ATX cases and shit |
| 02:42:49 | Snake | hey bake! |
| 02:42:52 | Bakemono | hey |
| 02:45:43 | Kami | bbl, btw tuxbox sounds like a good project, I'll come back to check on it :D I wanna see where this thing heads |
| 02:47:37 | Snake | beb |
| 02:47:38 | Snake | brb |
| 02:47:40 | Snake | is (7away6) |
| 02:49:07 | [57th]cneal | Wheres the controller on the page? |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | hehe, i saw that post too |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | i don't know tho |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | daniel might be for real |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | well, we can do a tour maybe |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | but, i'm just saying we have to focus |
| 02:49:54 | CoolMan | we must get everything finished |
| 02:50:15 | [57th]cneal | heh |
| 02:50:16 | Snake | but with that controller? |
| 02:50:19 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 02:50:19 | Snake | yuck |
| 02:50:24 | CoolMan | am i back now? |
| 02:50:26 | Snake | is (7back6) |
| 02:50:31 | Snake | yes coolman |
| 02:50:34 | Snake | your back |
| 02:50:37 | Snake | just lagging a bit |
| 02:50:39 | CoolMan | sorry, that packet filter filtered everything |
| 02:50:40 | Snake | or is it me |
| 02:50:46 | [57th]cneal | Geewiz, even snake lives further and we dont get that much lag |
| 02:50:49 | CoolMan | say somthing |
| 02:50:57 | [57th]cneal | oh yeah, i forgot. woops:) |
| 02:51:02 | CoolMan | oh yeah |
| 02:51:08 | CoolMan | oh yeah, i forgot. woops:) |
| 02:51:17 | CoolMan | say somthing, i will echo |
| 02:51:25 | Snake | is (7away6) |
| 02:51:26 | Snake | brb |
| 02:51:27 | Snake | shower |
| 02:51:30 | CoolMan | that way we will know how much lag |
| 02:52:00 | CoolMan | k |
| 02:52:06 | CoolMan | i think the controller is great |
| 02:52:15 | CoolMan | hey, is anybody here? |
| 02:52:25 | [57th]cneal | ya |
| 02:52:51 | CoolMan | cool |
| 02:52:57 | [57th]cneal | pong? |
| 02:53:03 | CoolMan | pong? |
| 02:53:10 | CoolMan | hong kong |
| 02:53:15 | CoolMan | sing a song |
| 02:53:21 | CoolMan | beat a gong |
| 02:53:26 | CoolMan | billabong |
| 02:53:35 | CoolMan | is very annoying |
| 02:53:53 | CoolMan | slaps himself to make him shut up |
| 02:53:57 | CoolMan | ow! |
| 02:54:06 | [57th]cneal | ? |
| 02:54:14 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 02:54:22 | CoolMan | its a joke |
| 02:54:25 | CoolMan | nm |
| 02:54:25 | [57th]cneal | o |
| 02:54:33 | CoolMan | so what did i miss? |
| 02:54:52 | CoolMan | is bake here again? |
| 02:55:08 | CoolMan | Bakemono: ARE YOU HERE??? |
| 02:55:53 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 02:55:58 | CoolMan | i'm alone again |
| 02:56:47 | [57th]cneal | you |
| 02:56:51 | [57th]cneal | i |
| 02:57:00 | [57th]cneal | icancu |
| 02:57:16 | CoolMan | sweet |
| 02:57:19 | Bakemono | I'm aliv |
| 02:57:21 | Bakemono | e!!! |
| 02:57:26 | Bakemono | to an extent |
| 02:57:32 | CoolMan | ahhahahaha!! |
| 02:57:34 | Bakemono | I just saw brotherhood of the wolf |
| 02:57:39 | CoolMan | is laughing evilly. |
| 02:57:46 | [57th]cneal | Wheres the controller coolman? |
| 02:57:47 | Bakemono | ? |
| 02:57:52 | CoolMan | bake, i need to talk to you |
| 02:58:09 | CoolMan | http://www.logitech.com/cf/products/productoverview.cfm/76 |
| 02:58:47 | [57th]cneal | that just sends me to some product page |
| 02:58:50 | CoolMan | bakemono: you are the OS guy right? |
| 02:58:57 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:59:04 | [57th]cneal | I'm 2nd deck man |
| 02:59:18 | CoolMan | yeah, you have to select your language, then it will redirect you back to the url |
| 02:59:33 | CoolMan | well, that includes kernel right? |
| 03:02:02 | [57th]cneal | It says that it only runs on windows? |
| 03:02:25 | CoolMan | all linux support is unofficial |
| 03:03:25 | CoolMan | hey, bake, you there? |
| 03:03:56 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:03:56 | Bakemono | sorry |
| 03:04:10 | CoolMan | so dude, your in charge of the kernel right? |
| 03:04:14 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:04:18 | CoolMan | well... |
| 03:04:50 | CoolMan | after the extensive research I have made |
| 03:04:51 | Bakemono | well? |
| 03:05:17 | CoolMan | i discovered that there was no fully supported USB controller in the kernel |
| 03:05:25 | Bakemono | no |
| 03:05:30 | Bakemono | not yet |
| 03:05:34 | CoolMan | no USB controller fully supported in the kernel |
| 03:05:57 | CoolMan | My dad and I have been working no that, but my focus shifted back the smoke |
| 03:06:02 | CoolMan | back to smoke |
| 03:06:07 | CoolMan | smoke is the UI |
| 03:06:16 | CoolMan | which is my job |
| 03:06:59 | CoolMan | anyway, i was wondering if you were going to take the controller thing from me? |
| 03:07:12 | CoolMan | because i have my hands full on the UI |
| 03:09:11 | CoolMan | ??? |
| 03:09:58 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 03:10:02 | | hello, AvailableFemale |
| 03:10:02 | AvailableFemale | hello |
| 03:10:04 | Bakemono | afaik |
| 03:10:04 | Bakemono | woah lag |
| 03:10:04 | Bakemono | I will |
| 03:10:05 | Bakemono | I'm laggin' like never before |
| 03:10:05 | Bakemono | wtf is up with this?!?! |
| 03:10:05 | Bakemono | DAMN IT |
| 03:10:05 | Bakemono | brb |
| 03:10:28 | Bakemono | WOAH.... |
| 03:10:30 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 03:10:31 | Bakemono | that was fucked up |
| 03:10:32 | Bakemono | I'm here |
| 03:10:38 | CoolMan | what the heck? |
| 03:10:48 | CoolMan | what happened? |
| 03:10:50 | Bakemono | yeah...what the heck is right... |
| 03:10:52 | Bakemono | I don't know |
| 03:10:57 | CoolMan | ok |
| 03:11:08 | Bakemono | that was fucked up |
| 03:11:14 | [57th]cneal | snake must be hacking the server |
| 03:11:24 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:11:28 | CoolMan | i will cut/paste my previous messages |
| 03:11:39 | CoolMan | (22:15:13) CoolMan: i discovered that there was no fully supported USB controller in the kernel |
| 03:11:39 | CoolMan | (22:15:21) Bakemono: no |
| 03:11:39 | CoolMan | (22:15:25) Bakemono: not yet |
| 03:11:40 | CoolMan | (22:15:29) CoolMan: no USB controller fully supported in the kernel |
| 03:11:40 | CoolMan | (22:15:53) CoolMan: My dad and I have been working no that, but my focus shifted back the smoke |
| 03:11:40 | CoolMan | (22:15:58) CoolMan: back to smoke |
| 03:11:42 | CoolMan | (22:16:03) CoolMan: smoke is the UI |
| 03:11:44 | CoolMan | (22:16:12) CoolMan: which is my job |
| 03:11:46 | CoolMan | (22:16:54) CoolMan: anyway, i was wondering if you were going to take the controller thing from me? |
| 03:11:48 | CoolMan | (22:17:08) CoolMan: because i have my hands full on the UI |
| 03:11:54 | Bakemono | I started laggin' real bad so I killed my irc client and started it again |
| 03:12:01 | CoolMan | hmm, odd |
| 03:12:07 | Bakemono | indeed |
| 03:12:07 | CoolMan | so what do you think? |
| 03:12:21 | Bakemono | I will take care of it |
| 03:12:24 | CoolMan | k |
| 03:12:36 | CoolMan | you used the 2.4.17 kernel as a base? |
| 03:12:44 | CoolMan | using the 2.4.17 |
| 03:12:49 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:12:52 | Bakemono | I think so |
| 03:12:54 | Snake | allo |
| 03:12:59 | Bakemono | heh |
| 03:13:04 | CoolMan | k, i will send you some code so far |
| 03:13:08 | Bakemono | cool |
| 03:13:12 | Bakemono | hey snake |
| 03:13:15 | CoolMan | see... the modules are really freaked |
| 03:13:18 | Snake | oh shit, programmers talk |
| 03:13:19 | Snake | im going |
| 03:13:20 | Snake | :P |
| 03:13:31 | CoolMan | acually, i think we talked about this a little bit ago |
| 03:13:43 | CoolMan | remember the iforce thing? |
| 03:14:08 | CoolMan | hey snake |
| 03:14:10 | Snake | you talking to me? |
| 03:14:14 | Snake | hey coolman |
| 03:14:15 | CoolMan | i guess |
| 03:14:28 | Snake | nope i dont remember any thing about iforce |
| 03:14:30 | CoolMan | hows the dev team coming? |
| 03:14:41 | CoolMan | no, i was talking to bake about iforce |
| 03:14:45 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:14:46 | Snake | oh |
| 03:14:46 | Bakemono | I remember it |
| 03:14:50 | CoolMan | that's it |
| 03:14:55 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm away! |
| 03:15:08 | CoolMan | that's the module that need to be modified |
| 03:15:16 | [57th]cneal | <- gonna kill some ships |
| 03:15:19 | Snake | k |
| 03:15:21 | Snake | heh |
| 03:16:42 | CoolMan | basically, the only things i have done so far were adding the device in the list of module device support tabels |
| 03:16:48 | CoolMan | tables |
| 03:18:48 | Snake | hrm we need travis in here |
| 03:18:55 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 03:19:02 | Snake | then we have the three main people Bake,Cool, and travis |
| 03:19:18 | CoolMan | i guess |
| 03:19:24 | Snake | its a bit hard making desicions without him cause ya cant tell wether or not we will like it |
| 03:19:30 | Bakemono | ? |
| 03:19:39 | CoolMan | brb |
| 03:19:42 | Bakemono | k |
| 03:20:00 | Snake | well all those idea in the forums about adding windowx XP to a chip |
| 03:20:09 | Snake | whart the hell was they thinking |
| 03:20:10 | Snake | heh |
| 03:20:14 | Snake | wb |
| 03:22:09 | CoolMan | back |
| 03:22:35 | Snake | wb |
| 03:23:40 | CoolMan | what i was going to say was that the only thing that i did to the iforce module was add the WingMan to the device table, fix the device lookup, and make the driver NOT wait for input from the device after an open command |
| 03:24:32 | CoolMan | however, i just thought that it might be easier to just split the module off into another module that is designed for the WingMan RumblePad |
| 03:25:02 | CoolMan | or somthing, however, since that's your job, i won't make those descisions for you |
| 03:25:08 | CoolMan | bake? |
| 03:25:53 | Bakemono | here |
| 03:25:59 | Bakemono | my cat wanted to play |
| 03:26:04 | CoolMan | did you get that? |
| 03:26:37 | Snake | Wingman Rumblepad? |
| 03:26:41 | Snake | ugly as hell heh |
| 03:26:55 | CoolMan | dude, snake, have you held it in your hands? |
| 03:27:07 | Snake | i was about to say it looks comfortable heh |
| 03:27:12 | Snake | hey travis |
| 03:27:21 | CoolMan | it is comfortable, and it works |
| 03:27:26 | travis|coding | howdy snake, coolman, bake |
| 03:27:30 | CoolMan | travis is zombie right now |
| 03:27:35 | CoolMan | WOW |
| 03:27:42 | CoolMan | BACK FROM THE DEAD!! |
| 03:27:45 | Snake | but its ugly heh |
| 03:27:52 | Bakemono | hey |
| 03:27:55 | Snake | but a good thing about it is that its got 6 buttons |
| 03:28:01 | travis|coding | heh |
| 03:28:02 | CoolMan | more than that |
| 03:28:10 | Snake | well 6 main buttons |
| 03:28:13 | CoolMan | i have it in my hands |
| 03:28:13 | Snake | on the front |
| 03:28:23 | CoolMan | 11 buttons |
| 03:28:29 | Snake | on the front? |
| 03:28:34 | CoolMan | not (of course) counting the D-Pad |
| 03:28:36 | travis|coding | brb |
| 03:28:43 | CoolMan | yeah, front and shoulders |
| 03:28:59 | Snake | how much does it cost? |
| 03:29:09 | CoolMan | $30 USD |
| 03:29:14 | Snake | kool |
| 03:29:22 | CoolMan | i think the wireless version is $40 |
| 03:29:24 | Snake | thats not to expensive |
| 03:29:31 | Snake | dont get wireless |
| 03:29:34 | Snake | wireless suck |
| 03:29:48 | CoolMan | well, if the user wants wireless, then the user can have it |
| 03:29:55 | Snake | what happens if you are doing a 3 nighter of gaming and then it runs out of batteries |
| 03:30:04 | Snake | then you have to charge it |
| 03:30:05 | Snake | heh |
| 03:30:09 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 03:30:14 | CoolMan | i agree personally |
| 03:30:18 | CoolMan | i like cords |
| 03:30:22 | Snake | same |
| 03:30:26 | CoolMan | but, some people feel differently |
| 03:30:33 | Bakemono | mmm...cords.... |
| 03:30:41 | CoolMan | and we should give them an option |
| 03:30:53 | CoolMan | hey bake, have you seen my UI shot? |
| 03:30:58 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 03:31:07 | CoolMan | like it? |
| 03:31:25 | Bakemono | there isn't too much to like... |
| 03:31:34 | Snake | heh |
| 03:31:58 | Bakemono | people like lots of cool effects and stuff |
| 03:32:14 | Bakemono | I can't really tell from the screenshot but it looks boring |
| 03:32:25 | Snake | heh |
| 03:32:35 | Snake | thats what i was thinking |
| 03:32:42 | Snake | we need to get something into it first |
| 03:34:26 | Bakemono|Away | bbiab |
| 03:34:28 | Bakemono|Away | got somethin' to do |
| 03:34:30 | Snake | k |
| 03:37:59 | CoolMan | of course right now it's no mare than some basic package management code hacked together |
| 03:37:59 | CoolMan | I will focus on visuals and music last |
| 03:38:24 | Snake | yeah |
| 03:38:27 | Snake | fuck music for now |
| 03:38:29 | Snake | heh |
| 03:38:44 | Snake | if worst comes to worst, give out free stereos with the console :P |
| 03:38:57 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 03:39:06 | | que tal, Snake |
| 03:39:06 | Snake | hello |
| 03:39:31 | CoolMan | sorry, my internet will be very flakey for awhile |
| 03:40:25 | CoolMan | anyhoo, smoke's strongest visual point will be animation |
| 03:40:37 | CoolMan | whitch you can't convey in a still image |
| 03:40:44 | CoolMan | ibt? |
| 03:40:46 | | yes, CoolMan? |
| 03:40:46 | CoolMan | ibot? |
| 03:40:57 | CoolMan | ok, nice fast ping |
| 03:41:37 | Snake | hrm |
| 03:42:22 | | Snake? |
| 03:42:22 | Snake | ibot? |
| 03:42:26 | Snake | and my ping is fine |
| 03:42:30 | CoolMan | having a screenshot is more having proof that you have code that anything else |
| 03:42:32 | Snake | then why are we lagging so much |
| 03:42:37 | CoolMan | i don't know |
| 03:42:42 | CoolMan | you laggin? |
| 03:42:45 | CoolMan | say somthing |
| 03:42:46 | Snake | nope |
| 03:42:49 | CoolMan | nope |
| 03:42:50 | | yes, Snake? |
| 03:42:50 | Snake | ibot? |
| 03:42:53 | Snake | see |
| 03:42:55 | Snake | instant |
| 03:42:59 | CoolMan | i will repeat you |
| 03:43:03 | Snake | k |
| 03:43:04 | CoolMan | k |
| 03:43:06 | Snake | hello blah |
| 03:43:09 | CoolMan | hello |
| 03:43:11 | CoolMan | blah |
| 03:43:13 | Snake | heh |
| 03:43:19 | Snake | it must be fine |
| 03:43:26 | CoolMan | i will just say g for got it |
| 03:43:36 | Snake | k |
| 03:43:38 | Snake | blah |
| 03:43:46 | CoolMan | i was lagging because my internet |
| 03:43:47 | CoolMan | g |
| 03:43:47 | Snake | say g? |
| 03:43:51 | CoolMan | g |
| 03:43:51 | CoolMan | g |
| 03:43:51 | Snake | lol |
| 03:43:51 | CoolMan | g |
| 03:43:51 | CoolMan | g |
| 03:43:51 | Snake | k |
| 03:43:53 | Snake | heh |
| 03:43:58 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:44:08 | CoolMan | anyway, my code is cool |
| 03:44:18 | CoolMan | and it works (most importaint part) |
| 03:45:48 | Snake | yup |
| 03:45:49 | Snake | heh |
| 03:46:07 | CoolMan | so how, is your dev team coming? |
| 03:46:42 | Snake | not good |
| 03:46:46 | Snake | a lost my main programmer |
| 03:46:49 | Snake | (bakemono) |
| 03:46:50 | Snake | heh |
| 03:47:01 | CoolMan | aw |
| 03:47:22 | Snake | and my other programmer isnt very dedicated and he just keeps on making new projects, and he never finishs what he starts |
| 03:47:40 | CoolMan | well... |
| 03:47:46 | Snake | he just keeps on coming up eith new idea, gets half way through it, gets bored and starts a new one |
| 03:47:51 | Snake | with* |
| 03:48:36 | CoolMan | you do know that a dev team leader should know how to program |
| 03:48:46 | Snake | yes |
| 03:48:53 | Snake | and im in the process of learning |
| 03:49:04 | Snake | but i have no 3d modelers or anything |
| 03:49:09 | CoolMan | otherwize, it could be thought that he just wants to have someone else make somthing for him so he can have all the credit |
| 03:49:14 | Snake | so there isnt much point in starting my own team |
| 03:49:16 | CoolMan | like bill gates |
| 03:49:22 | Snake | heh |
| 03:49:24 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:49:29 | Snake | tru |
| 03:49:30 | Snake | tru |
| 03:49:32 | CoolMan | get C for Dummies |
| 03:49:36 | Snake | nah |
| 03:49:40 | CoolMan | and run linux |
| 03:49:44 | CoolMan | free compiler |
| 03:49:50 | Snake | i got "C++ in 21 days" |
| 03:49:59 | CoolMan | oh ow |
| 03:50:00 | Snake | and r00t access to bakemono's linux box |
| 03:50:05 | CoolMan | i looked at that |
| 03:50:17 | Snake | cause i cant run linux |
| 03:50:20 | CoolMan | bake gave you root prives? |
| 03:50:23 | Snake | whats the matter with that book? |
| 03:50:26 | Snake | yes he did |
| 03:50:40 | CoolMan | thats nonsensical |
| 03:50:56 | CoolMan | C++ in 21 days confused the crud outta me |
| 03:51:03 | Snake | well iwould reply if i knew what that word ment |
| 03:51:20 | Snake | nonsensical? |
| 03:51:28 | CoolMan | nonsensical = "a state of nonsense" |
| 03:51:42 | Snake | why is it "nonsensical" |
| 03:52:08 | CoolMan | because noone should EVER use root |
| 03:52:16 | CoolMan | even on their own machine |
| 03:52:23 | Snake | we've known each other long enough for him to trust me |
| 03:52:35 | CoolMan | because it's easier to screw your computer than do somthing right |
| 03:52:46 | Snake | all i use is gcc |
| 03:52:48 | Snake | and vi |
| 03:52:50 | Snake | and thats it |
| 03:52:52 | Snake | heh |
| 03:52:54 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 03:53:01 | CoolMan | you should have your own account |
| 03:53:07 | CoolMan | why can't you run linux? |
| 03:53:07 | Snake | i do |
| 03:53:22 | CoolMan | you have your own account? |
| 03:53:28 | Snake | because this is my mums box and she wants windows |
| 03:53:36 | CoolMan | so you dual boot |
| 03:53:39 | Snake | and my box dosent have a mouse port thingy |
| 03:53:45 | Snake | or a cd-rom drivew |
| 03:53:55 | Snake | dual boot? ahahaha on a 1gb? |
| 03:53:58 | Snake | doubt it |
| 03:53:59 | Snake | heh |
| 03:54:00 | CoolMan | heven't you heard of FTP install man? |
| 03:54:05 | CoolMan | oic |
| 03:54:09 | CoolMan | 1gb?!?! |
| 03:54:12 | Snake | ya |
| 03:54:16 | Snake | with 75mhz |
| 03:54:20 | Snake | 32 EDO ram |
| 03:54:24 | CoolMan | that's like saying "i live in a porta-potty" |
| 03:54:31 | CoolMan | lol |
| 03:54:35 | Snake | heh |
| 03:56:32 | Snake | and i cant ftp install |
| 03:56:37 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 03:56:38 | Snake | cause my box aint got no modem |
| 03:56:50 | Snake | and my mums one has got a 14.4k |
| 03:56:58 | Snake | and mine has got a borken 18.8k |
| 03:57:04 | Snake | 28.8k |
| 03:57:06 | Snake | * |
| 03:57:26 | CoolMan | hmmm |
| 03:57:53 | Snake | so i just use my root privs |
| 03:57:55 | CoolMan | so you don't do much computing |
| 03:58:13 | CoolMan | what's your account name? |
| 03:58:17 | Snake | i sit on the computer all fucking day, but i dont code heh |
| 03:58:40 | Snake | well i wouldnt call it an account, just my own login and password |
| 03:58:51 | CoolMan | right, that's an account |
| 03:58:56 | Snake | fair enough |
| 03:58:57 | Snake | heh |
| 03:59:02 | CoolMan | what's your login? |
| 03:59:05 | CoolMan | not password |
| 03:59:09 | Snake | Snake |
| 03:59:17 | CoolMan | aha |
| 03:59:29 | Snake | what? |
| 03:59:33 | CoolMan | did bake say you are logging in as root? |
| 03:59:53 | Snake | well its its telnet access |
| 04:00:05 | CoolMan | of course |
| 04:00:06 | Snake | and i can pretty much do anything with that |
| 04:00:10 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 04:00:12 | Snake | and i got ftp access |
| 04:00:20 | CoolMan | yeah |
| 04:00:33 | CoolMan | that comes with a non priviledged account |
| 04:01:09 | CoolMan | if you had root access, you would type root at the login prompt |
| 04:01:38 | CoolMan | root could delete the whole freakin' HDD if he wanted |
| 04:02:11 | Snake | yes |
| 04:02:14 | Snake | but i wouldnt |
| 04:02:24 | Snake | cause my website is hosted on there |
| 04:02:25 | Snake | heh |
| 04:02:33 | Snake | but i wouldnt tdo it anyway |
| 04:02:41 | CoolMan | yeah, but you don't have root priviledges, because you don't type root at the login prompt |
| 04:02:43 | Snake | even is a knew how heh |
| 04:02:52 | Snake | if* |
| 04:03:04 | Snake | o-well |
| 04:03:13 | Snake | what the hell are we talking about this for anywayz |
| 04:03:19 | CoolMan | i don't know |
| 04:03:44 | CoolMan | you should still learn C |
| 04:03:51 | Snake | nah |
| 04:03:53 | Snake | c++ |
| 04:03:57 | CoolMan | i wouldn't advise you to learn C++ |
| 04:04:01 | Snake | y? |
| 04:04:07 | CoolMan | because it's more dificult |
| 04:04:12 | Snake | so... |
| 04:04:15 | Snake | your point? |
| 04:04:31 | CoolMan | not for a beginner |
| 04:04:33 | Snake | just cause its difficult dosent mean i wont learn it |
| 04:04:58 | CoolMan | well, if you do, you'll be over me, because I don't know C++ |
| 04:05:08 | Snake | heh |
| 04:05:13 | CoolMan | I don't have the C experience yet |
| 04:05:30 | CoolMan | of course, i do like the non-ANSI freedom |
| 04:05:52 | CoolMan | ok, here's a good one |
| 04:06:19 | CoolMan | free(malloc(sizeof(int)*256)); |
| 04:06:43 | CoolMan | hahaha |
| 04:06:43 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:07:06 | CoolMan | brb' |
| 04:07:29 | Snake | $7(+tax(and(income(comesto)*$15)); |
| 04:07:31 | Snake | ok |
| 04:09:23 | Snake | wb |
| 04:09:28 | CoolMan | mine is a totally independant, utterly useless line of code |
| 04:09:33 | CoolMan | WB travis |
| 04:09:48 | travis|coding | thanks |
| 04:09:54 | Snake | mine is absolutelky nothing heh |
| 04:09:57 | CoolMan | hehe |
| 04:10:10 | CoolMan | i thought for a moment that it was some c++ jibberish |
| 04:10:19 | CoolMan | hey trav, check this out |
| 04:10:29 | CoolMan | free(malloc(sizeof(int)*256)); |
| 04:10:43 | Snake | travis does c++ |
| 04:10:53 | Snake | i think :/ |
| 04:12:29 | travis_143cw | what header file? |
| 04:12:47 | CoolMan | brb |
| 04:13:22 | CoolMan | back |
| 04:13:40 | CoolMan | what do you think, useless? |
| 04:14:02 | Snake | what does it do first of all? |
| 04:14:06 | CoolMan | nothing |
| 04:14:12 | CoolMan | its useless |
| 04:14:15 | Snake | heh |
| 04:14:18 | Snake | hwats it for them |
| 04:14:23 | Snake | whats it for then |
| 04:14:36 | CoolMan | its a joke |
| 04:15:17 | CoolMan | oh well |
| 04:15:24 | [57th]cneal | :) |
| 04:15:31 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 01:00:36) |
| 04:15:36 | Snake | wb |
| 04:15:36 | CoolMan | hey trav, you there? |
| 04:15:51 | [57th]cneal | 1hr! Woot! Beat that! |
| 04:16:07 | Snake | ok |
| 04:16:11 | Snake | is (7away6) |
| 04:16:21 | CoolMan | hehe, i could be gone for the rest of your life, and the tuxbox would grind to a halt |
| 04:16:25 | CoolMan | lol |
| 04:16:26 | [57th]cneal | Yeah but you talk when your away snake |
| 04:16:46 | [57th]cneal | Thats not the same |
| 04:16:52 | Snake | is (7back6) |
| 04:16:53 | Snake | is back (gone 02:30:35) |
| 04:16:57 | CoolMan | i gotta go guys |
| 04:16:59 | [57th]cneal | bah |
| 04:17:01 | CoolMan | cyall |
| 04:17:02 | Snake | it wouldnt grind to much of a halt |
| 04:17:05 | [57th]cneal | bs |
| 04:17:12 | Snake | we have backup programmers |
| 04:17:34 | [57th]cneal | umm, not really... |
| 04:17:45 | travis_143cw | yeah we do... |
| 04:17:55 | Snake | heh |
| 04:17:56 | travis_143cw | i can forward you about 15 emails =P |
| 04:18:07 | Snake | sticks his tounge out a cneal |
| 04:18:09 | Snake | told ya so |
| 04:18:11 | [57th]cneal | You should go to this |
| 04:18:11 | Snake | told ya so |
| 04:18:14 | [57th]cneal | Just a reminder! The chat with Jordan Hubbard will be held in #freebsd @ 10:30PM EST!! |
| 04:18:51 | Snake | hey |
| 04:18:56 | killergoalie | hi |
| 04:19:02 | [57th]cneal | damn, its invite only |
| 04:19:30 | [57th]cneal | stupid server |
| 04:19:34 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm away! |
| 04:19:54 | Snake | wb bake |
| 04:19:59 | Bakemono | yo yo |
| 04:20:01 | travis_143cw | hello bake |
| 04:20:27 | Bakemono | hello trav |
| 04:21:30 | Bakemono | so what's goin' on? |
| 04:21:51 | travis_143cw | nm sam |
| 04:22:13 | travis_143cw | well not much |
| 04:22:23 | travis_143cw | coolman is coming up with some good progress |
| 04:22:23 | Bakemono | yes... |
| 04:22:39 | Bakemono | cool |
| 04:22:43 | travis_143cw | i am barely awake |
| 04:22:50 | Bakemono | :P |
| 04:22:57 | travis_143cw | i need to get offline soon, i wont be able to drive in the morn... |
| 04:23:02 | Bakemono | I saw brotherhood of the wolf today |
| 04:23:02 | Snake | at first i thought coolman was going to be another one of the newbies who try to take over the project, but he has done alot now |
| 04:23:56 | travis_143cw | yeah he is good |
| 04:24:05 | travis_143cw | but i need sleep, if i cant sleep, i will be back shortly |
| 04:24:25 | Snake | k |
| 04:24:26 | Snake | night |
| 04:24:31 | travis_143cw | night guys |
| 04:24:41 | Bakemono | nite |
| 04:25:21 | Snake | look at the diff between c and c++ |
| 04:25:29 | Bakemono | looks |
| 04:25:32 | Snake | struct board { char squares[64]; char side_to_move;}; |
| 04:25:32 | Snake | |
| 04:25:40 | Snake | class board { public: inline char get_square(int s) { return squares[s]; } inline char get_side_to_move() { return side_to_move; } inline void set_square(int s, char ch) { squares[s] = ch; } inline void set_side_to_move(char ch) { side_to_move = ch; } private: char squares[64]; char side_to_move;}; |
| 04:25:45 | Snake | they do the same thing |
| 04:25:51 | Snake | but the size is different |
| 04:25:53 | Bakemono | not really |
| 04:26:06 | Bakemono | the C++ actually does something |
| 04:26:11 | Bakemono | the C one doesn't do anything by it self |
| 04:26:24 | Snake | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=77036 |
| 04:26:30 | Bakemono | oh |
| 04:26:30 | Bakemono | wait |
| 04:26:30 | Snake | go have a lot ot the full article |
| 04:26:30 | Bakemono | heh |
| 04:26:34 | Bakemono | I guess you are right |
| 04:27:07 | Snake | heh |
| 04:27:11 | Bakemono | C++ is easier than C |
| 04:27:14 | Snake | im always right f00 |
| 04:27:18 | Snake | dont mess with me |
| 04:27:19 | Snake | :P |
| 04:27:26 | Bakemono | seriously |
| 04:27:50 | Snake | coolman says c is easier |
| 04:27:59 | Snake | and that he couldnt learn c++ cause it was to hard |
| 04:27:59 | Bakemono | for him maybe |
| 04:28:00 | Snake | heh |
| 04:28:19 | Bakemono | C++ has more luxeries |
| 04:28:21 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 04:28:25 | Bakemono | I can't spell |
| 04:28:27 | Snake | yeah |
| 04:28:33 | Snake | luxuries |
| 04:28:36 | Snake | i think |
| 04:28:40 | Bakemono | sure |
| 04:29:10 | Bakemono | cout is easier to use than printf for some people |
| 04:29:25 | Snake | i hate the look of printf |
| 04:29:33 | Snake | i like the feel of cout |
| 04:29:39 | Bakemono | cout << "My name is " << myName << endl; |
| 04:29:51 | Snake | whats that do? |
| 04:29:59 | Bakemono | printf("My name is %s\n", myName); |
| 04:30:18 | Snake | ahhh |
| 04:30:23 | Snake | looks alot easier |
| 04:30:24 | Snake | heh |
| 04:30:30 | Bakemono | they both print "My name is " then whatever myName is and go to the next line |
| 04:30:47 | Snake | well |
| 04:30:51 | Bakemono | they are both pretty simple |
| 04:30:54 | Snake | im guessing endl; means end line; |
| 04:31:03 | Bakemono | but C++ handles strings very well |
| 04:31:08 | [57th]cneal | mmm |
| 04:31:10 | Bakemono | yeah, endl is the same as "\n |
| 04:31:11 | Bakemono | " |
| 04:31:12 | Bakemono | well |
| 04:31:15 | Bakemono | it's not quite the same |
| 04:31:18 | Bakemono | but it sorta is |
| 04:31:30 | Bakemono | endl flushes stdout |
| 04:31:34 | Bakemono | "\n" doesn't |
| 04:31:44 | Bakemono | printf("My name is %s\n", myName); flush(stdout); |
| 04:31:52 | Bakemono | now they are the same |
| 04:31:56 | Snake | whats stdout? |
| 04:32:01 | Bakemono | standard out |
| 04:32:08 | Bakemono | usually the screen |
| 04:32:10 | Bakemono | monitor |
| 04:32:12 | Bakemono | terminal |
| 04:32:19 | Snake | i c |
| 04:32:36 | Bakemono | a program never knows what it is though |
| 04:33:01 | Bakemono | I can go 'ls > dirlist' and stdout becomes a file called 'dirlist' |
| 04:33:36 | Bakemono | or 'ls | grep foo' and stdout becomes a pipe to stdin of grep |
| 04:33:48 | Bakemono | I'll shut up now |
| 04:34:05 | travis|sleep | lol |
| 04:34:09 | Bakemono | :P |
| 04:34:09 | travis|sleep | really sleeping now |
| 04:34:11 | Bakemono | no |
| 04:34:14 | Bakemono | you mustn't |
| 04:34:44 | [57th]cneal | Sleep on a sunday? |
| 04:35:10 | [57th]cneal | Wanna see a game that I made? |
| 04:35:17 | Snake | heh |
| 04:35:21 | Snake | lol@bake |
| 04:35:25 | Snake | alot of that went over my head |
| 04:35:26 | [57th]cneal | I call it tuxflyer demo1 |
| 04:35:26 | Snake | heh |
| 04:35:27 | Bakemono | sure cneal |
| 04:35:50 | [57th]cneal | Ok, hold on I'll get it |
| 04:36:03 | Bakemono | Snake, you best learn some C++ yo |
| 04:38:36 | Snake | heh |
| 04:38:37 | Snake | yes |
| 04:38:56 | Bakemono | cout << "Hello, World" << endl; |
| 04:39:43 | Snake | cout << "shutup ill read a book ok? << endl; |
| 04:39:58 | Bakemono | SYNTAX ERROR!!!! |
| 04:40:13 | Bakemono | that string is missing a closing qoute |
| 04:41:04 | Bakemono | muhaha |
| 04:43:17 | Snake | fucking piece of shit computer |
| 04:43:42 | Snake | bake what was the last thing i said that showed up in the chatroom? |
| 04:44:29 | [57th]cneal | Damn errors! |
| 04:45:18 | [57th]cneal | Ok, who wants tuxflyer demo1? |
| 04:45:29 | Snake | k |
| 04:45:32 | Snake | me |
| 04:45:34 | Snake | howbig is it? |
| 04:45:44 | [57th]cneal | Not too big |
| 04:45:50 | Snake | how big? |
| 04:45:50 | [57th]cneal | Ok, sending |
| 04:45:55 | [57th]cneal | few kb |
| 04:46:00 | Snake | k |
| 04:46:02 | Snake | send it |
| 04:47:19 | [57th]cneal | sending |
| 04:47:25 | Snake | fuck |
| 04:47:27 | Snake | wait a sec |
| 04:47:31 | [57th]cneal | vgs |
| 04:47:34 | Snake | my stupid client rejected the exe heh |
| 04:47:52 | Snake | i have to re-install mirc and i didnt get time to edit the dcc settings |
| 04:47:53 | Snake | brb |
| 04:48:19 | [57th]cneal | Woah, freakin hell! |
| 04:48:49 | Snake | ok |
| 04:48:51 | Snake | send it now |
| 04:50:07 | [57th]cneal | sending |
| 04:50:16 | Snake | whats that command that makes dcc send faster by receiveing the dcc packets before the irc text ones |
| 04:51:02 | [57th]cneal | ? |
| 04:51:21 | Snake | see |
| 04:51:23 | [57th]cneal | howdou like it |
| 04:51:25 | Snake | look how slow its going |
| 04:51:42 | [57th]cneal | It already sent I thought |
| 04:52:03 | Snake | oh it said it hadent even start heh |
| 04:52:10 | Snake | its got a missing dll file |
| 04:52:25 | [57th]cneal | What dll file? |
| 04:52:29 | Snake | FMZ |
| 04:52:38 | Snake | but its shows up as FMZ|.dll |
| 04:52:39 | Snake | heh |
| 04:56:03 | [57th]cneal | I have a calculator program |
| 04:56:20 | Snake | wow |
| 04:56:22 | Snake | good for you |
| 04:56:28 | [57th]cneal | You can add numbers, here I'll send you it |
| 04:56:29 | Snake | where this dll file now? |
| 04:56:31 | Snake | heh |
| 04:57:03 | Snake | no dont send me the calculator thingy |
| 04:57:12 | Snake | windows comes with a perfectly good one |
| 04:57:16 | Snake | i dont need another one |
| 04:57:23 | [57th]cneal | I did it at school, I'll send it to you and you can compileit |
| 04:57:39 | Snake | heh, if a had a compiler it would help |
| 04:57:56 | [57th]cneal | all it needs is iostream.h |
| 04:58:59 | [57th]cneal | bah |
| 04:59:05 | [57th]cneal | screw it, I'm flying |
| 04:59:46 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 00:40:11) |
| 04:59:49 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm away! |
| 05:26:37 | snake | hello |
| 05:27:17 | Bakemono|RockinAndRollin | hello |
| 05:30:23 | snake | hey |
| 05:31:17 | snake | bakemono: youbored? |
| 05:31:22 | snake | bakemono: you bored? |
| 05:32:33 | Bakemono | urd |
| 05:32:36 | Bakemono | yes |
| 05:32:45 | Snake | then teach me some c++ :P |
| 05:32:52 | Bakemono | ok |
| 05:32:56 | Snake | koo! |
| 05:33:00 | Snake | kool* |
| 05:33:06 | Snake | wiht a ! |
| 05:33:08 | Bakemono | how much do you know already? |
| 05:33:22 | Snake | cout << Blah << endl; |
| 05:33:27 | Snake | and thats about it |
| 05:33:34 | Snake | and i know another way of doing it |
| 05:33:40 | Snake | <iostream.h> |
| 05:33:42 | [57th]cneal | Wanna see my calculator program? |
| 05:33:45 | Snake | { |
| 05:33:48 | Snake | main() |
| 05:33:58 | [57th]cneal | main(){ |
| 05:34:16 | Snake | cout << "Hello, World\n"; |
| 05:34:16 | Bakemono | int main(int argc, char **argv) { |
| 05:34:17 | Bakemono | :P |
| 05:34:24 | Snake | and the something else |
| 05:34:28 | Snake | set = o |
| 05:34:31 | Snake | or something |
| 05:34:33 | Snake | not sure |
| 05:34:35 | Snake | and then { |
| 05:34:51 | Bakemono | string myString = "Hello, World"; cout << myString << endl; |
| 05:35:05 | Snake | whats that do? |
| 05:35:12 | Snake | same thing |
| 05:35:16 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 05:35:18 | Snake | but whats the string but for |
| 05:35:36 | Snake | bit* |
| 05:35:38 | Bakemono | it creates a string called 'myString' and prints it |
| 05:36:02 | Snake | whats the point of that? |
| 05:36:14 | Bakemono | cin >> myString; |
| 05:36:17 | Bakemono | cout << myString |
| 05:36:18 | Bakemono | hold on |
| 05:36:24 | Bakemono | my C++ is a little rust |
| 05:36:25 | Bakemono | y |
| 05:36:32 | Bakemono | I'll write a little example proggy |
| 05:36:37 | Snake | k |
| 05:36:44 | Bakemono | you've got mail |
| 05:36:50 | Bakemono | at snake@scurvypenguin.net |
| 05:36:52 | Bakemono | :P |
| 05:37:19 | Snake | i do? |
| 05:37:37 | Snake | but shouldnt it forward to my normal email? |
| 05:37:45 | Snake | ok how do i check it? |
| 05:38:07 | Bakemono | with an email client... |
| 05:38:13 | Snake | i c |
| 05:38:20 | Snake | falls over |
| 05:38:23 | Snake | ok ill try |
| 05:38:24 | Snake | heh |
| 05:40:07 | Bakemono | logon to my server |
| 05:40:42 | Snake | what port? |
| 05:41:26 | Snake | is it SMTP |
| 05:41:28 | Snake | or |
| 05:41:31 | Snake | POP3 |
| 05:41:36 | Bakemono | pop3 |
| 05:41:42 | Snake | k |
| 05:41:52 | Bakemono | telnet to my server |
| 05:41:59 | Bakemono | and check out the proggy in your home directory |
| 05:43:06 | Snake | k |
| 05:45:01 | Bakemono | brb |
| 05:45:04 | Bakemono | need a drink |
| 05:45:36 | Snake | k |
| 05:46:30 | Bakemono | back |
| 05:46:34 | Bakemono | you run the program? |
| 05:47:14 | Snake | nope |
| 05:47:15 | Snake | not yet |
| 05:47:21 | Snake | im trying to get the fucking email |
| 05:47:22 | Snake | heh |
| 05:47:34 | Snake | i tried telneting on port 110 and it didnt work |
| 05:47:39 | Snake | i tried outlook express |
| 05:47:41 | Snake | that didnt work |
| 05:47:45 | Bakemono | some ezboard account thing |
| 05:47:48 | Bakemono | and a bunch of spam |
| 05:47:54 | Snake | oh |
| 05:47:55 | Snake | ok |
| 05:48:42 | Snake | then i wont bother |
| 05:48:45 | Snake | hold a sec |
| 05:48:50 | Snake | ill log onto your server |
| 05:48:54 | Bakemono | yes you will |
| 05:49:13 | Snake | what access have i got to your server? |
| 05:49:18 | Snake | is it root access |
| 05:49:26 | Bakemono | no... |
| 05:49:37 | Snake | what is it |
| 05:49:41 | Bakemono | normal user access |
| 05:49:46 | Snake | ahhh |
| 05:49:51 | Bakemono | you can run all normal user proggies |
| 05:49:56 | Bakemono | and fuck around in your home directory |
| 05:49:58 | Snake | i was wondering what it was |
| 05:50:15 | Snake | what file do you want me to run? |
| 05:50:19 | Bakemono | hello |
| 05:50:24 | Snake | k |
| 05:50:36 | Snake | heh |
| 05:50:37 | Snake | kool |
| 05:51:18 | Snake | If your serious about game designing come on in to www.tuxboxproject.com and irc.openprojects.net #tuxboxproject and come get your team together and develop games for the Tuxbox, a linux based gaming console. |
| 05:51:18 | Snake | We have a few games in production but would like more as this is of course an open to public console which means anyone and everyone who wants to make games for this console, can! |
| 05:51:19 | Snake | Also, just do a search for us and you'll find us at SorceForge and other linux supporting communities. |
| 05:51:19 | Snake | Of all the linux based gaming console being made, tuxbox by far is the most well-known and most open to public development. |
| 05:51:19 | Snake | for more info... |
| 05:51:21 | Snake | snake@tuxboxproject.com if this dosent work then... |
| 05:51:23 | Snake | snake_assasin@hotmail.com |
| 05:51:25 | Snake | o shit |
| 05:51:28 | Snake | snake@master:~$ hello |
| 05:51:29 | Snake | What is your name? Shaun |
| 05:51:31 | Snake | Hello Shaun |
| 05:51:58 | Bakemono | :) |
| 05:52:04 | Bakemono | type 'less hello.cpp' |
| 05:54:10 | Snake | fuck |
| 05:54:14 | Snake | stupid computer |
| 05:54:15 | Snake | snake@master:~$ hello |
| 05:54:15 | Snake | What is your name? Shaun |
| 05:54:15 | Snake | Hello Shaun |
| 05:55:07 | Bakemono | :) |
| 05:56:03 | Snake | show me the code for it |
| 05:56:09 | Snake | i forgot how to do it manualy |
| 05:56:10 | Bakemono | 'less hello.cpp' |
| 05:56:11 | Bakemono | type it |
| 05:56:13 | Snake | ahh |
| 05:56:14 | Snake | yes |
| 05:56:17 | Snake | i remember |
| 05:58:30 | Snake | whats this line do |
| 05:58:31 | Snake | snake@master:~$ hello |
| 05:58:31 | Snake | What is your name? Shaun |
| 05:58:31 | Snake | Hello Shaun |
| 05:58:33 | Snake | oops |
| 05:58:51 | Snake | int main(int argc, char **argv) |
| 05:58:57 | Snake | whats this do? |
| 05:59:09 | Bakemono | it's just the main function with some a |
| 05:59:12 | Bakemono | extras* |
| 05:59:17 | Bakemono | a = extras |
| 05:59:26 | Snake | what i dont have those in? |
| 05:59:38 | Bakemono | if you took away the 'int argc, char **argv' and it'll still work |
| 05:59:45 | Snake | i c |
| 05:59:54 | Snake | return 0; |
| 05:59:54 | Bakemono | that stuff's for command line arguments |
| 05:59:57 | Snake | and what does this do? |
| 06:00:08 | Bakemono | not a whole lot |
| 06:00:15 | Bakemono | but it's good practice |
| 06:00:58 | Snake | ok how do i quit out of this less thingy? |
| 06:01:09 | Bakemono | ESC |
| 06:01:24 | Snake | nope dont work |
| 06:01:38 | Bakemono | q |
| 06:01:43 | Snake | dont worry |
| 06:01:45 | Snake | its quitnow |
| 06:03:44 | Snake | so would this work |
| 06:03:44 | Snake | #include <iostream.h> |
| 06:03:45 | Snake | #include <string> |
| 06:03:45 | Snake | int main() { |
| 06:03:45 | Snake | string name; |
| 06:03:45 | Snake | cout << "What is your name? "; |
| 06:03:46 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:03:48 | Snake | cout << "What is last your name? "; |
| 06:03:50 | Snake | cin >> lastname; |
| 06:03:52 | Snake | cout << "Hello " << name << lastname << endl; |
| 06:03:54 | Snake | return 0; |
| 06:03:56 | Snake | } |
| 06:04:01 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 06:04:04 | Bakemono | no |
| 06:04:05 | Snake | kool |
| 06:04:09 | Snake | aww |
| 06:04:14 | Bakemono | you have to "declare" lastname |
| 06:04:18 | Bakemono | string name, lastname; |
| 06:04:28 | Snake | ? |
| 06:04:38 | Snake | string name; |
| 06:04:46 | Snake | but here you didnt need ot add anything esle |
| 06:07:14 | Bakemono | check out 'hello' now |
| 06:07:24 | Bakemono | I made a change |
| 06:07:32 | Snake | k |
| 06:08:34 | Snake | #include <iostream.h> |
| 06:08:35 | Snake | #include <string> |
| 06:08:35 | Snake | int main(int argc, char **argv) { |
| 06:08:35 | Snake | string name, lastname; |
| 06:08:35 | Snake | cout << "What is your first name? "; |
| 06:08:35 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:08:36 | Snake | cout << "What is your last name? "; |
| 06:08:38 | Snake | cin >> lastname; |
| 06:08:40 | Snake | cout << "Hello " << name << " " << lastname << endl; |
| 06:08:42 | Snake | return 0 |
| 06:08:49 | Snake | whats the << " " << for? |
| 06:09:09 | Snake | fuck i dont get this langauge |
| 06:09:10 | Snake | heh |
| 06:09:20 | Bakemono | to put a space between the names |
| 06:09:31 | Bakemono | otherwise you get "Hello JohnDoe" |
| 06:09:38 | Snake | ic |
| 06:09:40 | Snake | an |
| 06:09:43 | Snake | and* |
| 06:09:44 | Snake | also |
| 06:09:50 | Snake | where did you declare name |
| 06:09:54 | Snake | i see you did lastname |
| 06:09:59 | Snake | but what about name |
| 06:10:06 | Bakemono | string name, lastname; |
| 06:10:15 | Snake | ahh |
| 06:10:17 | Snake | so you can do |
| 06:10:28 | Snake | string name, middlename, lastname; |
| 06:10:34 | Bakemono | yes |
| 06:12:19 | Snake | #include <iostream.h> |
| 06:12:19 | Snake | #include <string> |
| 06:12:20 | Snake | int main(int argc, char **argv) { |
| 06:12:20 | Snake | string name, middlename, lastname; |
| 06:12:20 | Snake | cout << "What is your first name? "; |
| 06:12:20 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:12:21 | Snake | cout << "What is your middle name name? "; |
| 06:12:23 | Snake | cin >> middlename; |
| 06:12:25 | Snake | cout << "What is your last name? "; |
| 06:12:27 | Snake | cin >> lastname; |
| 06:12:29 | Snake | cout << "Hello " << name << " " << middlename << " " << lastname << endl; |
| 06:12:31 | Snake | return 0 |
| 06:12:33 | Snake | would this work? |
| 06:12:50 | Bakemono | I believe so |
| 06:13:09 | Snake | is there a maximum amount of strings c++ can handle? |
| 06:13:18 | Bakemono | nope |
| 06:13:29 | Snake | it would depend on the computer its run on |
| 06:13:31 | Snake | ? |
| 06:13:33 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 06:13:56 | Bakemono | and you'd need ALOT of strings to fill up even my shitty old server |
| 06:14:08 | Snake | i c |
| 06:14:46 | Snake | how do you assign vairables without having to enter something all the time |
| 06:14:54 | Snake | variables |
| 06:14:56 | Snake | * |
| 06:15:25 | Bakemono | name = "Bob"; |
| 06:15:28 | Bakemono | ? |
| 06:15:29 | Snake | blah >> name; |
| 06:15:29 | Snake | cout << "name"; |
| 06:15:31 | Snake | oh |
| 06:15:32 | Snake | ok |
| 06:15:47 | Bakemono | or just |
| 06:15:52 | Bakemono | cout << "Bob" |
| 06:15:52 | Bakemono | ; |
| 06:15:53 | Snake | blah == "name"; |
| 06:15:53 | Snake | cout << "name"; |
| 06:15:56 | Bakemono | no |
| 06:16:01 | Bakemono | blah = "name"; |
| 06:16:04 | Snake | oops |
| 06:16:12 | Bakemono | == is different |
| 06:16:17 | Snake | sorry, a little mirc scripting went into that one |
| 06:16:18 | Snake | heh |
| 06:16:25 | Bakemono | = is the 'assignment operator' |
| 06:16:27 | Snake | blah = "name"; |
| 06:16:28 | Snake | cout << "name"; |
| 06:16:37 | Bakemono | == is the 'equal-to operator' |
| 06:16:45 | Snake | == is for if, then, else |
| 06:16:49 | Snake | and stuff |
| 06:16:52 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 06:17:16 | Bakemono | if(blah = "foo") { ... } won't produce any errors |
| 06:17:22 | Bakemono | but it won't have the same effect as: |
| 06:17:30 | Bakemono | if(blah == "foo") { ... } |
| 06:17:50 | Snake | and what do you put in { ... } |
| 06:17:53 | Snake | the command? |
| 06:18:01 | Bakemono | any number of statements... |
| 06:18:04 | Snake | yeah very similar to mirc scripting |
| 06:18:10 | Bakemono | hold on |
| 06:18:25 | Snake | k |
| 06:19:54 | Bakemono | check out 'bob' |
| 06:20:04 | Snake | k |
| 06:21:04 | Snake | heh |
| 06:21:13 | Snake | it says go away whatever name you type in it |
| 06:21:25 | Snake | you did it wrong |
| 06:21:39 | Bakemono | nope |
| 06:21:43 | Bakemono | type "Bob" |
| 06:21:57 | Bakemono | make sure it's Bob not bob |
| 06:22:25 | [57th]cneal | Why not cout << "What is your name: "; cin >> first >> last; |
| 06:22:45 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 01:22:56) |
| 06:22:46 | Bakemono | no reason |
| 06:22:55 | Bakemono | that works too... |
| 06:23:07 | Snake | snake@master:~$ Bob |
| 06:23:07 | [57th]cneal | 1hr. love that game! |
| 06:23:07 | Snake | bash: Bob: command not found |
| 06:23:12 | Bakemono | no |
| 06:23:15 | Bakemono | it's called bob |
| 06:23:27 | Bakemono | but when it asks for your name type 'Bob' |
| 06:23:29 | Bakemono | without the qoutes |
| 06:23:37 | Snake | snake@master:~$ Bob |
| 06:23:37 | Snake | bash: Bob: command not found |
| 06:23:39 | Snake | oops |
| 06:23:46 | Snake | <Bakemono> type "Bob" |
| 06:23:47 | Snake | <Bakemono> make sure it's Bob not bob |
| 06:23:53 | Snake | make up your fucking mins boy |
| 06:23:56 | Snake | mind* |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | snake@master:~$ bob |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | What is your name? shaun |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | Go away |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | snake@master:~$ bob |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | What is your name? sam |
| 06:24:08 | Snake | Go away |
| 06:24:31 | Bakemono | snake@master:~$ ./bob |
| 06:24:31 | Bakemono | What is your name? Bob |
| 06:24:31 | Bakemono | Good Morning Bob |
| 06:24:53 | Snake | nope |
| 06:24:57 | Snake | not wokring heh |
| 06:25:15 | Snake | snake@master:~$ ./bob |
| 06:25:15 | Snake | What is your name? bob |
| 06:25:15 | Snake | Go away |
| 06:25:29 | Bakemono | make sure you input Bob with a capital B when it asks for your name |
| 06:25:51 | Snake | yup now it works |
| 06:26:00 | Bakemono | 'less bob.cpp' |
| 06:26:08 | Bakemono | kicks travis|sleep |
| 06:27:54 | Snake | helps |
| 06:28:04 | Bakemono | take a look at the source code |
| 06:28:12 | Snake | i did |
| 06:28:26 | Bakemono | it's fairly spiffy |
| 06:28:55 | Snake | here ill make one |
| 06:28:56 | Snake | brb |
| 06:29:04 | Bakemono | :) |
| 06:31:57 | Snake | #include <iostream.h> |
| 06:31:58 | Snake | #include <string> |
| 06:31:58 | Snake | int main() { |
| 06:31:58 | Snake | string name, password; |
| 06:31:58 | Snake | cout << "What is your name? "; |
| 06:31:58 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:32:00 | Snake | cout << "Hello" << " " << name << endl; |
| 06:32:02 | Snake | cout << "Whats the password "; |
| 06:32:04 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:32:06 | Snake | if(password == "blah blah") { |
| 06:32:08 | Snake | cout << "Password Correct" << endl; |
| 06:32:10 | Snake | } else { |
| 06:32:12 | Snake | cout << "Sorry you are unauthorised to proceed" << endl; |
| 06:32:14 | Snake | } |
| 06:32:16 | Snake | return 0; |
| 06:32:25 | Snake | oops |
| 06:32:29 | Snake | i mad a mistake |
| 06:32:45 | Snake | #include <iostream.h> |
| 06:32:46 | Snake | #include <string> |
| 06:32:46 | Snake | int main() { |
| 06:32:46 | Snake | string name, password; |
| 06:32:46 | Snake | cout << "What is your name? "; |
| 06:32:46 | Snake | cin >> name; |
| 06:32:47 | Snake | cout << "Hello" << " " << name << endl; |
| 06:32:49 | Snake | cout << "Whats the password "; |
| 06:32:51 | Snake | cin >> password; |
| 06:32:53 | Snake | if(password == "blah blah") { |
| 06:32:55 | Snake | cout << "Password Correct" << endl; |
| 06:32:57 | Snake | } else { |
| 06:32:59 | Snake | cout << "Sorry you are unauthorised to proceed" << endl; |
| 06:33:01 | Snake | } |
| 06:33:01 | [57th]cneal | You dont need << " " <<, just add a space after hello |
| 06:33:03 | Snake | return 0; |
| 06:33:05 | Snake | there |
| 06:33:26 | Snake | cneal: im learning the long way first |
| 06:33:32 | Snake | ive only just started learning |
| 06:33:32 | [57th]cneal | The << " " << was only used to place a space after varible |
| 06:33:52 | Snake | ahhh i c |
| 06:33:53 | [57th]cneal | k |
| 06:34:03 | Snake | no thats a good tip |
| 06:34:08 | Snake | i needed that one heh |
| 06:34:16 | Snake | or i would be in for some serious mistakes |
| 06:34:34 | [57th]cneal | It will make a space, its just not needed |
| 06:34:37 | Bakemono | not mistakes, just unreasonable fucked up code |
| 06:34:44 | Bakemono | :P |
| 06:34:49 | Snake | lol |
| 06:35:24 | [57th]cneal | I can write a line cout << "H" << "e" << "l" << "l"; that would work just like the line cout << "Hello"; |
| 06:35:44 | [57th]cneal | Play around with it :) |
| 06:36:27 | Snake | lol |
| 06:36:29 | Bakemono | cout << 'H' << 'e' << 'l' << 'l' << 'o' << endl; |
| 06:36:37 | Bakemono | and yet another way to write Hello |
| 06:37:29 | [57th]cneal | Well I'm going to fly around my mothership while you talk about your computer stuff |
| 06:37:32 | Snake | blah = "el"; |
| 06:37:33 | Snake | cout << h << blah << l << o << endl; |
| 06:37:51 | Bakemono | you need qoutes around the letters though |
| 06:37:58 | Snake | oh |
| 06:38:01 | Snake | ok |
| 06:38:05 | Bakemono | double qoutes " for strings |
| 06:38:07 | [57th]cneal | h = "h"; |
| 06:38:13 | Bakemono | single qoutes ' for letters |
| 06:38:22 | Bakemono | [57th]cneal: or 'h' :P |
| 06:38:31 | [57th]cneal | Thats it |
| 06:38:33 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm away! |
| 06:38:46 | Bakemono | char foo = 'a'; |
| 06:39:01 | Bakemono | string bar = "a"; |
| 06:39:12 | Snake | whats that? |
| 06:39:17 | Snake | oh |
| 06:39:19 | Snake | i get it |
| 06:39:21 | Bakemono | nothin' you need to worry about yo |
| 06:39:26 | Bakemono | :P |
| 06:39:41 | Snake | strings and variables need "" |
| 06:39:48 | Bakemono | not variables |
| 06:39:54 | Snake | oh ok |
| 06:40:04 | [57th]cneal | reboot. must not get lagged next time my collectors get blown out of space |
| 06:40:18 | Bakemono | cout << "H" << blah << "lo"; |
| 06:41:41 | Snake | do you have "goto" statements? |
| 06:41:46 | Snake | like |
| 06:41:49 | Snake | :start |
| 06:41:53 | Bakemono | NEVER!!!! |
| 06:41:55 | Bakemono | goto' |
| 06:41:59 | Snake | ? |
| 06:42:10 | Bakemono | gotos are the manifestation of evil it self |
| 06:42:24 | Snake | :start |
| 06:42:25 | Snake | cout << "weener" << endl; |
| 06:42:25 | Snake | goto start |
| 06:42:31 | Snake | then what do you use in c++ |
| 06:42:32 | Snake | ? |
| 06:42:36 | Bakemono | use gotos and I will personally cut your throat |
| 06:42:49 | Snake | lol |
| 06:42:55 | Snake | then what the fuck do you do? |
| 06:43:00 | Bakemono | for(;;) { cout << badWord; } |
| 06:43:06 | Snake | ? |
| 06:43:17 | Bakemono | that will loop for eternity printing whatever is in badWord |
| 06:43:18 | Snake | for and while loops? |
| 06:43:27 | Bakemono | yes |
| 06:43:29 | Bakemono | for {} |
| 06:43:39 | Bakemono | for() {} |
| 06:43:42 | Bakemono | while() {} |
| 06:43:47 | Bakemono | do {} while() |
| 06:43:56 | Snake | :/ |
| 06:44:02 | Snake | goto start |
| 06:44:05 | Snake | :P |
| 06:44:07 | Bakemono | NEVER |
| 06:44:08 | Snake | hey cneal wb |
| 06:44:14 | [57th]cneal | No gotos! |
| 06:44:20 | Snake | HEH |
| 06:44:27 | Snake | y not? |
| 06:44:32 | Snake | y can we use goto;s? |
| 06:44:34 | [57th]cneal | Use for or if or case |
| 06:44:36 | Snake | goto's? |
| 06:44:44 | Bakemono | for(int i = 0; i < 50000; i++) { system("killall -9 snake"); } |
| 06:44:57 | Snake | ??? |
| 06:44:58 | Snake | lol |
| 06:45:07 | Snake | im guessing itll kill me |
| 06:45:08 | Bakemono | they are evil I say evil! |
| 06:45:12 | Snake | y |
| 06:45:15 | Snake | tell me y |
| 06:45:20 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm away! |
| 06:45:23 | Snake | they do the exactly the same thing |
| 06:45:32 | Bakemono | but they suck b |
| 06:45:35 | Bakemono | allz |
| 06:45:39 | Snake | y? |
| 06:45:44 | Bakemono | runs |
| 06:45:47 | Snake | they are easier |
| 06:45:51 | Snake | and require less code |
| 06:46:14 | Bakemono | they suck it |
| 06:46:16 | [57th]cneal | Its real hard to read code that has gotos, you have to follow them all and programms dont like that, much easier to read a for statment |
| 06:46:26 | Snake | ahhh |
| 06:46:37 | Snake | so goto's arent good for easy program debugging |
| 06:46:44 | [57th]cneal | and I'm off to defend my monthership |
| 06:46:48 | Snake | k |
| 06:46:59 | [57th]cneal | so cya in an hr 30min |
| 06:47:04 | Snake | k |
| 06:47:09 | Bakemono | later |
| 06:47:13 | Snake | cya |
| 06:47:49 | Snake | Bakemono: is it because its harder to debug programs with goto's and if you make a mistake in your program its harer to fix |
| 06:47:58 | Snake | harder* |
| 06:48:25 | Bakemono | something like that |
| 06:48:38 | Snake | well then whats the reason |
| 06:51:09 | Snake | whats wpm? |
| 06:51:45 | Bakemono | words/minute |
| 06:52:14 | Snake | does data download at wpm? |
| 06:52:24 | Bakemono | no |
| 06:52:25 | Snake | can you just zip it and send it down at 256k |
| 06:52:35 | Snake | If my calculations are correct, 500MB or 524,288,000 bytes at 100wpm will take about 2 1/2 years, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, that is without stopping for a CheezIt break. |
| 06:52:35 | Snake | By game data I mean graphics, sound, etc., not binaries. |
| 06:52:47 | Bakemono | people type at wpm |
| 06:52:58 | Snake | yeah |
| 06:53:02 | Snake | oh |
| 06:53:09 | Snake | so typing all the data up |
| 06:53:16 | Snake | before making it available |
| 06:53:19 | Bakemono | you don't type all the data up though |
| 06:53:25 | Snake | i c |
| 06:53:31 | Snake | then what is he worrying about? |
| 06:54:23 | Bakemono | he had a misunderstanding |
| 06:54:27 | Snake | i c |
| 06:54:35 | Snake | what did he think you had to do? |
| 06:54:42 | Snake | did he think you had to type all the data up? |
| 06:55:49 | Bakemono | no, he thought I was going to type 500MB of source code |
| 06:56:00 | Snake | lol |
| 06:56:01 | Snake | hahaha |
| 06:56:06 | Snake | that would take fucking ages |
| 06:56:19 | Snake | how fast can you type? |
| 06:57:13 | Snake | i can like type at 50wpm |
| 06:57:17 | Snake | very slow |
| 06:57:18 | Snake | heh |
| 06:57:23 | Snake | cause i cant type properly |
| 06:57:28 | Snake | i havent leanry |
| 06:57:31 | Bakemono | I don't know |
| 06:57:31 | Snake | leanrt* |
| 06:57:36 | Snake | i type my own way |
| 06:58:01 | Snake | well just type a sentence for 10 seconds, count the words and times them by 6 |
| 06:58:30 | Snake | ill time you |
| 06:58:34 | Snake | and tell you to stop |
| 06:58:49 | Snake | k? |
| 06:58:54 | Bakemono | ... |
| 06:58:59 | Bakemono | no |
| 06:59:02 | Bakemono | I'd rather not |
| 06:59:06 | Snake | y not? |
| 07:00:14 | Snake | hrm |
| 07:00:23 | Snake | having to have all that data on a disk |
| 07:00:30 | Snake | y dont you burn your games onto DVD |
| 07:00:36 | Snake | then youll have enough space heh |
| 07:01:26 | Snake | or just have two disk |
| 07:01:35 | Snake | like Diablo 2 is a fucking huge game heh |
| 07:01:53 | Bakemono | I've seen games with 5 and 6 CDs |
| 07:02:46 | Snake | wow |
| 07:02:50 | Snake | must of been good games |
| 07:03:24 | Snake | are you good at minimzing programs |
| 07:03:28 | Snake | like after making a program |
| 07:03:36 | Snake | going through it and making it smaller and just as good |
| 07:04:50 | [57th]cneal | moo |
| 07:05:07 | Snake | oink |
| 07:05:22 | Bakemono | quack |
| 07:05:27 | Snake | bahhhhh |
| 07:05:53 | Snake | cokka doodle doo |
| 07:06:01 | Bakemono | any cock'll do |
| 07:06:08 | Snake | realy? |
| 07:06:12 | Snake | i didnt know bake |
| 07:06:22 | Snake | i thought you was straight |
| 07:06:27 | Bakemono | uhh.... |
| 07:07:03 | Snake | its funny how things like "any cock'll do" spread so quickly |
| 07:07:12 | Snake | we have that "joke" in new zealand too |
| 07:07:32 | Snake | how the hell does it get from one side of the world to the other and then all over new zealand and america |
| 07:07:33 | Snake | heh |
| 07:07:37 | Snake | maybe the internet |
| 07:07:55 | Snake | america, australia, and new zeland are the leading countries on the internet |
| 07:08:20 | Snake | (ordered from biggest to smallest in amounts of people and internet) |
| 07:08:41 | Snake | and maybe and japan and china, but they dont go into chatrooms as much |
| 07:08:49 | Snake | its usualy business men |
| 07:08:50 | Snake | heh |
| 07:09:12 | Bakemono | japanese chatrooms... |
| 07:09:28 | Snake | theres a few |
| 07:09:47 | Snake | but like stupid little playground jokes like that |
| 07:09:55 | Snake | they travel to fast |
| 07:13:06 | Bakemono | yes... |
| 07:13:11 | Snake | anywayz |
| 07:13:17 | Snake | how do you make grpahics in c++ |
| 07:13:20 | Snake | like buttons |
| 07:13:22 | Snake | and shit |
| 07:13:46 | Snake | i know its not imprtant now im my learn process |
| 07:13:47 | Bakemono | C++ by it self doesn't supply you with any way to produce graphics |
| 07:13:48 | Snake | yet |
| 07:13:57 | Snake | then how do you make graphics? |
| 07:14:01 | Bakemono | you need to use a graphics "library" |
| 07:14:04 | Snake | ahhh |
| 07:14:07 | Snake | i c |
| 07:14:22 | Bakemono | for menus and stuff there is MFC, GTK, and others |
| 07:14:41 | Snake | so you can request certain stuff from a library |
| 07:14:43 | Bakemono | for just graphics you've got opengl, SDL, directx, stuff |
| 07:15:03 | Bakemono | the graphics libs give you a way to draw graphics |
| 07:15:14 | Bakemono | usually you load the graphics from your hard drive |
| 07:15:28 | Snake | whatrs the best graphics thing you think |
| 07:15:37 | Bakemono | opengl... |
| 07:15:38 | Bakemono | but... |
| 07:15:40 | Snake | heh |
| 07:15:43 | Bakemono | it's not the easiest thing to use |
| 07:15:46 | Snake | i knew you would say that |
| 07:15:48 | Snake | heh |
| 07:15:49 | Snake | :P |
| 07:15:54 | Snake | DIRECT X!! |
| 07:15:58 | Bakemono | NEVER!!! |
| 07:16:00 | Bakemono | kills Snake |
| 07:16:13 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:14 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:14 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:15 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:15 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:16 | Snake | DIRECT X !!! |
| 07:16:29 | Snake | DIRECTX 8 !!! |
| 07:16:44 | Snake | throws a chainsaw at bakemono |
| 07:16:54 | Bakemono | slips |
| 07:17:10 | Bakemono | throws an axe at Snake |
| 07:17:14 | Snake | oh shit |
| 07:17:23 | Snake | dodges matrix style |
| 07:17:36 | Snake | swings around and chucks a spatular |
| 07:17:47 | Snake | oh shit wrong weapon |
| 07:17:56 | Snake | o-well |
| 07:18:01 | Snake | EAT SPATULAR |
| 07:18:04 | Snake | !!! |
| 07:18:12 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 07:18:37 | Snake | brb |
| 07:18:39 | Snake | toilet |
| 07:18:43 | Snake | must |
| 07:18:45 | Snake | go |
| 07:18:46 | Snake | now |
| 07:18:49 | Snake | is (7away6) |
| 07:20:27 | Bakemono | eww... |
| 07:27:00 | [57th]cneal | poo |
| 07:28:29 | | [57th]cneal? |
| 07:28:29 | [57th]cneal | ibot |
| 07:28:33 | | it has been said that cronotrg is getting paid this week on wednesday, so after I get that cashed, a few will be placed around town and other random stores |
| 07:28:33 | [57th]cneal | ibot who is cronotrg |
| 07:28:38 | [57th]cneal | bah |
| 07:28:40 | Bakemono | ? |
| 07:29:15 | | no idea, [57th]cneal |
| 07:29:15 | [57th]cneal | ibot, cronotrg is wheres the updated tuxbox flyer? =) |
| 07:29:21 | [57th]cneal | idiot! |
| 07:29:37 | [57th]cneal | Forget it, I must defend my mothership. |
| 07:50:04 | Snake | hey |
| 07:50:07 | Snake | is (7back6) |
| 07:52:25 | Bakemono | hey |
| 07:53:01 | Snake | anymore i should learn about c++ to help me along the way |
| 08:03:30 | [57th]cneal | Theres a book Computing concepts with C++ essentials by Cay horstmann thats good |
| 08:04:06 | [57th]cneal | How do I do this |
| 08:04:15 | | bugger all, i dunno, [57th]cneal |
| 08:04:15 | [57th]cneal | ibot, why do I hate you so so much? Why? |
| 09:07:07 | Snake | bakemono |
| 09:07:08 | Snake | read this |
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| 09:07:10 | Snake | You can click Search to look for information on the Internet. |
| 09:07:11 | Snake | HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden |
| 09:07:13 | Snake | Internet Explorer |
| 09:07:27 | Snake | this is an internet explorer error |
| 09:07:29 | Snake | heh |
| 09:07:57 | Snake | it says i have unauthorized access to www.nmesonline.com |
| 09:08:01 | Snake | and that if i thinki should |
| 09:08:42 | Snake | then i must look at the email or phone number on www.nmesonline.com |
| 09:08:53 | Snake | which i cant get onto because im unauthorizes |
| 09:09:08 | Snake | just another stupid error by MS IE 5 |
| 09:09:13 | Snake | .5 |
| 11:03:29 | retrh | bake you there? |
| 11:03:33 | retrh | its me snake |
| 11:06:10 | travis|sleep | wow snake, secret mission huh? |
| 11:09:20 | retrh | heh travis |
| 11:09:22 | retrh | travis |
| 11:09:27 | retrh | i need to show you something |
| 11:09:34 | travis_143cw | yuck! |
| 11:09:41 | retrh | first of all you mind kicking snake |
| 11:09:43 | travis_143cw | J/K |
| 11:09:48 | retrh | heh |
| 11:09:49 | retrh | lol |
| 11:10:34 | retrh | you there? |
| 11:10:43 | travis_143cw | yes |
| 11:10:48 | retrh | ok |
| 11:11:13 | retrh | i suggest we implament linux onto a flashchip or whatever its called |
| 11:11:21 | retrh | itll load hella faster |
| 11:11:28 | retrh | and i found out a way to di it |
| 11:11:32 | retrh | do* |
| 11:12:01 | travis_143cw | we have thought about loading off of cf before |
| 11:12:47 | retrh | yes but then y havent you done it? |
| 11:13:08 | retrh | or will you do it |
| 11:13:10 | retrh | look at this |
| 11:13:11 | retrh | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8844506693.html |
| 11:13:16 | travis_143cw | there was some reason or another, probably money |
| 11:14:18 | retrh | hrm |
| 11:14:25 | retrh | i might be able to get them for cheap |
| 11:14:28 | retrh | im not sure |
| 11:14:34 | retrh | no promisses |
| 11:14:44 | travis_143cw | how? |
| 11:14:51 | retrh | but i know alot of people who work for computer and electronic companies |
| 11:15:46 | retrh | also buying in bilk will remove costs |
| 11:16:11 | travis_143cw | well yah |
| 11:16:22 | retrh | bulk* |
| 11:16:30 | retrh | can you kick snake forme |
| 11:17:24 | retrh | dam he's still connected ot the server heh |
| 11:17:48 | travis_143cw | type "/msg nickserv ghost Snake password" |
| 11:18:22 | retrh | heh |
| 11:18:27 | retrh | its not registered |
| 11:18:37 | retrh | infact someone else has registered this nick |
| 11:18:39 | travis_143cw | ... |
| 11:18:41 | retrh | but i use it anywayz |
| 11:18:46 | retrh | they havent been here in ages |
| 11:18:50 | retrh | heh |
| 11:18:55 | retrh | i dont even know who they are |
| 11:19:03 | retrh | ive always used snake |
| 11:19:45 | retrh | dont get me wrong, this is still the same old snake you met for the first time heh |
| 11:20:13 | travis_143cw | lol |
| 11:21:10 | retrh | cant we fit linux onto like 100000 microcontrollers or something |
| 11:21:12 | retrh | heh |
| 11:21:44 | travis_143cw | what? |
| 11:22:44 | retrh | you know what a micro-controller is dont you? |
| 11:23:14 | travis_143cw | yeah |
| 11:23:38 | travis_143cw | but $$$... |
| 11:23:52 | retrh | heh |
| 11:24:06 | retrh | micro controllers(small ones) cost like 50c |
| 11:24:07 | retrh | heh |
| 11:24:27 | travis_143cw | but i need to get going to school, i will be back later |
| 11:24:36 | travis_143cw | that is the problem snake, small ones |
| 11:24:51 | retrh | yeah i know |
| 11:24:53 | travis_143cw | we will have to store pletnty for the whole os |
| 11:24:56 | retrh | i was only joking anywayz |
| 11:25:12 | retrh | but i need ot find a price on the DiskOnChip |
| 11:25:23 | travis_143cw | maybe the base OS could be on some sort of cf chip if we got them cheap enough |
| 11:25:31 | travis_143cw | but i have to go, talk to you later |
| 11:25:36 | retrh | k |
| 11:25:37 | retrh | bye |
| 11:25:41 | travis|afk | later man |
| 11:25:44 | retrh | later |
| 11:51:57 | retrh | bake you therE? |
| 11:52:05 | retrh | i need to talk to ya |
| 11:59:50 | Snake | bag |
| 11:59:53 | Snake | no matter |
| 11:59:55 | Snake | bah* |
| 12:44:31 | Bakemono | sleeping now |
| 12:44:38 | Snake | ? |
| 12:44:39 | Snake | aww |
| 12:44:40 | Snake | wait |
| 12:44:42 | Snake | a |
| 12:44:43 | Snake | sec |
| 12:44:52 | Bakemono|Sleep | ? |
| 12:44:54 | Snake | how many polygons can tuxbox handle a second |
| 12:45:10 | Snake | indrema's l600 could handle 120 million |
| 12:45:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | I don't know |
| 12:45:21 | Snake | ps2 can handle 70 million |
| 12:45:27 | Bakemono|Sleep | I don't know where to find that info |
| 12:45:30 | Snake | and xbox can handle 125 million |
| 12:45:42 | Snake | if we can keep the speed of indrema |
| 12:45:45 | Bakemono|Sleep | but if it can handle more than the xbox it will look _FUCKING_ good |
| 12:45:56 | Bakemono|Sleep | and it'll be faster than the indrema :) |
| 12:46:01 | Bakemono|Sleep | brb |
| 12:46:06 | Snake | cause indrema could have a maximum 180 million |
| 12:46:08 | Snake | ok |
| 12:46:10 | Snake | bye |
| 12:46:15 | Snake | which is more then the xbox |
| 12:46:25 | Snake | and the indrema only had a 500mhx processor |
| 12:46:29 | Snake | mhz* |
| 12:47:56 | Snake | but we have a 850 mhz |
| 12:48:18 | Snake | xbox = 125 million polygons per/sec |
| 12:48:39 | Snake | Indrema L600 = 180 million polygons per/sec |
| 12:48:42 | Bakemono|Sleep | back |
| 12:48:53 | Snake | PS2 = 70 million polygons per/sec |
| 12:49:00 | Snake | wb |
| 12:49:11 | Bakemono|Sleep | 's computer = 128907301283710 million polygons per/sec |
| 12:49:26 | Snake | yeah right |
| 12:49:34 | Snake | heh |
| 12:50:18 | Snake | no if we can keep the poly rate of 180 or over |
| 12:50:23 | Snake | then we are doing good |
| 12:50:34 | Snake | if we cant then coolman isnt doing his job properly |
| 12:50:45 | Snake | cause he's doing the UI |
| 12:50:56 | Snake | somewhat i regret him doing it |
| 12:51:05 | Snake | i strongly beleive you should do it |
| 12:51:12 | Snake | c++ is more inot that sort of thing |
| 12:51:19 | Snake | and you are far more experirnced them him |
| 12:51:28 | Bakemono|Sleep | he'll do fine |
| 12:51:35 | Bakemono|Sleep | anyways |
| 12:51:39 | Bakemono|Sleep | I really need some sleep |
| 12:51:44 | Snake | and he said today "if i left this project then the whoel thing will grind to a halt" |
| 12:51:52 | Bakemono|Sleep | hmm |
| 12:51:55 | Snake | he dosent realise we have over 15 backup programmers heh |
| 12:52:07 | Bakemono|Sleep | 1 of which is me |
| 12:52:10 | Bakemono|Sleep | muhahahahahahahahah |
| 12:52:11 | Snake | yes |
| 12:52:15 | Snake | that would make 16 |
| 12:52:28 | Bakemono|Sleep | which is indeed over 15 |
| 12:52:30 | Bakemono|Sleep | muhahahahhahaha |
| 12:52:37 | Snake | and maybe me with would make 16 and one millionth |
| 12:52:45 | Bakemono|Sleep | well, I'm off to bed |
| 12:52:48 | Snake | which* |
| 12:52:50 | Snake | ok goodnight |
| 12:52:54 | Bakemono|Sleep | nite |
| 12:53:22 | Bakemono|Sleep | leaves |
| 15:08:18 | CoolMan | hello? |
| 20:42:35 | zwampy | Hi there |
| 21:12:30 | [57th]cneal | My light keep flickering. Weiird |
| 21:14:03 | zwampy | Hi |
| 22:03:01 | travis|coding | Bakemono|Sleep: when you wake (if ever), i would like to talk to you, k? |
| 23:34:04 | Snake | anyone alive? |
| 23:42:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | hey snake |
| 23:43:12 | retrh | hey bake |
| 23:43:55 | retrh | i found something that'll let us implement our OS onto a chip |
| 23:44:08 | retrh | not implament, i mean embed |
| 23:44:11 | retrh | heh |
| 23:44:19 | retrh | stupid english langauge |
| 23:45:19 | Bakemono|Sleep | interesting |
| 23:47:46 | retrh | the chip |
| 23:48:15 | retrh | can have just over 200mb of information |
| 23:48:21 | retrh | i think around 250mb |
| 23:48:44 | retrh | it fits into a 144-pin DIMM socket (ram slots) |
| 23:49:00 | retrh | and you can store OS's and proggys on it |
| 23:49:20 | retrh | and since the computer checks the ram first, itll load straight away |
| 23:49:28 | retrh | i havent checked the price yet though |
| 23:50:49 | Snake- | stupid peer |
| 23:50:57 | Bakemono|Sleep | interesting |
| 23:51:10 | Bakemono|Sleep | that doesn't help you though :P |
| 23:51:20 | Bakemono|Sleep | gimme a link to some specs yo |
| 23:51:30 | Snake- | k |
| 23:51:34 | Snake- | welli can tell you some |
| 23:51:41 | Snake- | it reads at 1.4mb/sec |
| 23:51:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | where'd you read about this? |
| 23:52:16 | Snake- | i was up for a few hours researching it |
| 23:52:19 | Snake- | and a found a bit |
| 23:52:29 | Snake- | i even found intructions on how to do it |
| 23:52:56 | Snake- | hold a sec, ill get the link to the chip |
| 23:54:04 | Snake- | it supports linux too :D |
| 23:54:06 | Snake- | http://www.m-sys.com/content/products/product.asp?PID=12&FILE=docdimm2k |
| 23:54:07 | Bakemono|Sleep | :) |
| 23:55:29 | Snake- | i had to try find one that we wouldnt need to buy a whole new mother board or special extension for |
| 23:55:33 | Snake- | so i found one that fits into your ram slot heh |
| 23:55:47 | Snake- | Host O/S Support1 |
| 23:55:47 | Snake- | DOS 3.3 and higher, Windows 2000, WinCE, WinNT, Linux, FreeBSD, VxWorks, QNX, pSOS+ (Can be customized for other environments) |
| 23:56:04 | Snake- | Capacity |
| 23:56:05 | Snake- | 16, 32, 48, 64, 80, 96, 112, 128, 160, 192, 256 Mbytes |
| 23:56:25 | Snake- | its pretty energy efficient |
| 23:56:33 | Snake- | you could run it off a 8 volt battery |
| 23:56:35 | Snake- | 9* |
| 23:56:45 | Snake- | and 9 volts would probably burn it out with to much power heh |
| 23:57:36 | Snake- | tell me |
| 23:57:41 | Snake- | when you turn on your comp |
| 23:57:48 | Snake- | how fast does it take for linux to load? |
| 23:58:01 | Bakemono|Sleep | hmm |
| 23:58:03 | Bakemono|Sleep | I've never counted |
| 23:58:06 | Bakemono|Sleep | not that long |
| 23:59:22 | Snake- | im assuming right after the ram count check (which we can disable in the BIOS) the OS will load straight away |
| 23:59:39 | Snake- | fuck memory check heh :P |