| 02:14:36 | rasactive | hey cneal |
| 02:16:30 | [57th]cneal | hi |
| 07:29:21 | Bakemono|Away | dies |
| 07:32:39 | Snake | hey |
| 07:32:44 | Bakemono | I love my bass |
| 07:32:47 | Bakemono | it treats me well |
| 07:32:51 | Snake | lol |
| 07:32:53 | Bakemono | well, most of me |
| 07:33:09 | Bakemono | my left arm feels like and elephant stepped on it |
| 07:33:22 | Snake | lol |
| 07:33:25 | Snake | hehehe |
| 07:33:29 | Snake | how painful |
| 07:34:46 | Bakemono | the same muscles I use to grip a stick or a sword |
| 07:34:51 | Bakemono | so I don't mind :) |
| 07:35:04 | Bakemono | of course...I'd like to record this song I wrote |
| 07:35:11 | Snake | then do it |
| 07:35:15 | Bakemono | but I can't, because my fingers fail to move |
| 07:35:53 | Bakemono | I was messing around with effects and stuff |
| 07:35:57 | Bakemono | I ran the bass through my computer |
| 07:36:04 | Bakemono | which gives me endless possibilities |
| 07:36:07 | Bakemono | it's fun :) |
| 07:36:11 | Bakemono | I got the chorus and the reverb goin' |
| 07:36:15 | Bakemono | and it sounds really cool |
| 07:36:26 | Snake | kool |
| 07:36:29 | Bakemono | damn it |
| 07:36:43 | Bakemono | you need to get DSL or cable or anything that's faster than 56k |
| 07:38:05 | Snake | y? |
| 07:38:21 | Snake | i cant afford anything more |
| 07:39:47 | Bakemono | my cat is on me |
| 07:39:49 | Snake | y do i need to? |
| 07:39:50 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 07:40:06 | Bakemono | I have some cool mp3s of peeps using bass effects |
| 07:40:17 | Bakemono | to the untrained ear it sound like anything but a bass |
| 07:40:57 | Bakemono | I think I'm gonna go try to record something |
| 07:41:23 | Snake | but y do i need it? |
| 07:43:13 | Snake | ? |
| 07:43:13 | Snake | ? |
| 07:43:14 | Snake | ? |
| 07:43:57 | [57th]cneal | I got rid of the version snake =) |
| 07:44:09 | Bakemono | so you can download stuff fast |
| 07:44:14 | Bakemono | now |
| 07:44:19 | Bakemono | I'm gonna go play some music |
| 07:44:21 | Bakemono | bbiab |
| 07:44:23 | Snake | why did you bring that up |
| 07:44:24 | Snake | ? |
| 07:44:26 | Bakemono | first I have to get this cat off of me |
| 07:44:31 | Snake | in the middle of know where |
| 07:44:34 | Bakemono | Snake: I have a bunch of really cool mp3s |
| 07:44:40 | Snake | oh |
| 07:44:46 | Bakemono | anyways |
| 07:44:47 | Snake | well if a had money |
| 07:44:49 | Snake | i would |
| 07:44:51 | Snake | but anywayz |
| 07:44:55 | Snake | goodbye then |
| 07:45:04 | Snake | Cneal: the waht? |
| 07:45:07 | Snake | what* |
| 07:46:07 | [57th]cneal | ctcp version reply |
| 07:46:31 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 07:47:21 | Snake | how? |
| 07:50:32 | [57th]cneal | is away: I'm busy |
| 07:50:53 | [57th]cneal | is back (gone 00:00:20) |
| 07:51:02 | Snake | lol |
| 07:52:59 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 07:57:57 | Snake | so howd you do it? |
| 07:58:21 | [57th]cneal | Do what? |
| 07:58:49 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 07:58:53 | Snake | diasble version replys |
| 07:58:58 | Snake | disable* |
| 07:58:59 | [57th]cneal | I hax0red it |
| 07:59:17 | Snake | bullshit |
| 07:59:24 | [57th]cneal | Open it up with notepad and delete the version |
| 07:59:25 | Coderjoe | [23:38:47] ### [*] On RAW_IRC from "% PRIVMSG % %A%VERSION*A" do ctcpecho $rnick($0) $2 $fixctcp($3-) (not replied to) [SILENT] <0> |
| 08:00:05 | Coderjoe | thats how my version reply is disabled.... |
| 08:02:06 | Snake | lol |
| 08:02:11 | Snake | [[57th]cneal SUCKS] to be you Snake hahah :) |
| 08:02:11 | Snake | Cneal SUCKS |
| 08:02:27 | [57th]cneal | = |
| 08:02:29 | [57th]cneal | ) |
| 08:03:17 | Snake | cneal |
| 08:03:20 | Snake | how did you do it? |
| 08:03:39 | [57th]cneal | I got rid of time and date too =) |
| 08:03:45 | Snake | howz? |
| 08:04:49 | [57th]cneal | Just open it up with notepad and deleted it |
| 08:05:30 | Snake | yeah whtever |
| 08:05:33 | Snake | liar |
| 08:05:49 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 08:06:32 | Snake | you used a script |
| 08:07:03 | Snake | finaly got a book on c++ |
| 08:07:23 | Coderjoe | (that thing above was for EPIC, though) |
| 08:07:42 | Snake | i know |
| 08:07:47 | Snake | i could tell it wasent for mirc |
| 08:08:18 | Snake | i know mirc scripting |
| 08:08:19 | Coderjoe | i only use mirc if I have no choice, and i have no clue how to script it... |
| 08:08:28 | Snake | but cneal over here is very good at mirc scripting |
| 08:08:55 | Snake | i think its a powerful langauge if you know how to use to properly |
| 08:10:11 | Coderjoe | same with epic... |
| 08:28:05 | Snake | hrm |
| 08:28:08 | Snake | im bored |
| 08:41:11 | [57th]cneal | =) |
| 08:42:25 | Snake | im trying to download Borland c++ |
| 08:42:29 | Snake | but think 14.4k |
| 08:49:56 | [57th]cneal | Why not download soemthing smaller? |
| 08:55:05 | Snake | cause anything smaller is to slow |
| 08:55:13 | Snake | i sort of want to learn faaster |
| 08:55:54 | Snake | but if you know of something smaller? |
| 09:18:44 | [57th]cneal | wb |
| 09:18:49 | Snake | thankyou |
| 09:18:57 | Snake | do you know of a smaller c++ compiler? |
| 09:19:12 | [57th]cneal | no |
| 09:19:15 | Snake | cause this is taking way to long to download |
| 09:19:31 | [57th]cneal | You could try yahoo |
| 09:19:55 | Coderjoe | gcc? (and g++ or course) |
| 09:20:05 | Coderjoe | s/or/of/ |
| 09:20:59 | Snake | no |
| 09:21:01 | Snake | c++ |
| 09:21:38 | Coderjoe | g++ is a c++ compiler that is part of the Gnu Compiler Collection (gcc) |
| 09:22:03 | Snake | for windows? |
| 09:22:11 | Coderjoe | ming.org |
| 09:22:27 | Snake | i should of asked you hence you name |
| 09:22:29 | Snake | your* |
| 09:22:29 | Coderjoe | or cygwin.com (iirc) |
| 09:22:37 | Snake | is it small? |
| 09:22:54 | Coderjoe | i'm not sure what it's size is. |
| 09:23:09 | Snake | is it good? |
| 09:23:11 | Coderjoe | it's basically a windows port of the gcc. |
| 09:23:13 | Snake | and fast? |
| 09:24:02 | Coderjoe | ming compiles into native windows code, where cygwin uses a translation layer dll to handle the differences in runtime libraries, and is slower as a result |
| 09:25:19 | Snake | but i will still be able to program in c++ using openGL and what not |
| 09:25:29 | Snake | it wont effect my learning? |
| 09:25:53 | Snake | wow its small, its only 213kb |
| 09:27:20 | Coderjoe | sdl.org has a base package of much of the needed tools for making sdl programs on windows. |
| 09:27:34 | Snake | sdl |
| 09:27:37 | Snake | i heard about that |
| 09:27:39 | Snake | what is it |
| 09:28:18 | Coderjoe | Simple Directmedia Layer. it's like DirectX, but it is portable across many platforms. |
| 09:28:36 | Coderjoe | (loki uses it for their linux ports of games, for example) |
| 09:28:37 | Snake | and is it good? |
| 09:29:04 | Coderjoe | it's pretty good, and constantly getting better |
| 09:29:11 | Snake | kool |
| 09:29:24 | Snake | and is it easier to use then DirectX and OpenGL |
| 09:30:46 | Coderjoe | you can either program OpenGL directly, or you can do OpenGL through SDL. |
| 09:30:57 | Snake | hm |
| 09:31:02 | Snake | hrm |
| 09:31:09 | Snake | i dont know much about what you are talking about |
| 09:31:19 | Snake | since ive only just started learning c++ |
| 09:31:34 | Snake | i havent even started reading the book i got |
| 09:31:40 | Snake | im just treying to find a compiler |
| 09:31:44 | Snake | trying* |
| 09:32:09 | [57th]cneal | You can take some classes at college on C |
| 09:32:54 | Snake | nah |
| 09:32:59 | Snake | ill learn that on my own |
| 09:33:11 | [57th]cneal | G++ will let you compile c and C++ code but I believe that you need to write the code in something like notepad |
| 09:33:11 | Snake | but ill probably learn it at the gaming university ill go to |
| 09:33:29 | Snake | bah, i dont mind using notepad |
| 09:34:43 | Coderjoe | DigiPen? |
| 09:34:48 | [57th]cneal | While Microsoft Visual C++ and Borland comes with an editor that looks at your code, does the tabbing etc |
| 09:34:49 | Snake | its not a big sacrifice for a small compiler that works |
| 09:35:08 | Snake | No |
| 09:35:13 | Snake | i wont goto Digipen i dont think |
| 09:35:19 | Snake | ill goto Full Sail |
| 09:35:39 | Snake | ill goto Australia to study Computer Science |
| 09:35:51 | Snake | and then America to study in computer game developmenty |
| 09:35:56 | Snake | development* |
| 09:38:53 | Snake | .. |
| 09:38:57 | Snake | ... |
| 09:39:00 | Snake | and all went silent |
| 09:39:23 | Coderjoe | merry christmas: http://www.toyboxarts.com/gallery/numbers/pages/tb17e.html |
| 09:39:49 | Coderjoe | don't forget to unwrap your present |
| 09:40:08 | Snake | k |
| 09:41:13 | Coderjoe | (if you don't get it, there is a little 'x' at the bottom... click it...) |
| 09:41:44 | Snake | whats it do? |
| 09:42:05 | Coderjoe | brings up another picture |
| 09:42:21 | Coderjoe | unwrapping the subject of the first picture... |
| 09:42:45 | Snake | hmm |
| 09:42:51 | Snake | hentai in a christmas card |
| 09:42:55 | Snake | how kool |
| 09:50:57 | Snake | excellent card |
| 09:51:00 | Snake | thanks |
| 09:51:07 | Snake | that has made my day |
| 09:56:44 | Snake | ok |
| 09:56:49 | Snake | i g2g |
| 09:56:49 | Snake | bye |
| 10:49:24 | knghtbrd | LOL! |
| 10:54:28 | Coderjoe | there's another interesting christmas image on that site... |
| 10:56:30 | Coderjoe | you've heard of catgirls. you've heard of bunny girls. well, now, see the reindeer girl: http://www.toyboxarts.com/gallery/numbers/pages/tb21e.html |
| 10:56:57 | knghtbrd | uhoh |
| 10:57:54 | knghtbrd | the wrongness of that cannot be understated |
| 10:58:13 | Coderjoe | also, check you the doujin gallery.... |
| 10:58:37 | Coderjoe | s/you/out/ |
| 11:02:11 | knghtbrd | remind me not to piss this girl off... |
| 11:02:12 | knghtbrd | http://www.toyboxarts.com/gallery/numbers/pages/tb22e.html |
| 11:04:11 | Coderjoe | hehe |
| 11:29:03 | Bakemono|Recording | need... |
| 11:29:05 | Bakemono|Recording | sleep... |
| 11:29:11 | Snake | hey |
| 11:29:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | hey |
| 11:29:14 | Snake | lol |
| 11:29:47 | Snake | well |
| 11:29:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | i have some christmas shopping to do |
| 11:29:56 | Snake | goodnight if you are going to sleep |
| 11:30:01 | Snake | lol |
| 11:30:04 | Bakemono|Sleep | nah |
| 11:30:09 | Bakemono|Sleep | I still got somethin' to do |
| 11:30:12 | Snake | ive done most of my christmas shopping |
| 11:30:24 | Snake | i just need to buy something for my g/f |
| 11:31:17 | Bakemono|Sleep | ooo...snake's got a girl friend... |
| 11:32:06 | Snake | you know |
| 11:32:13 | Snake | Sporty_Chick |
| 11:32:26 | Snake | atleast my g/f are in the same country :P |
| 11:32:42 | Snake | my g/f lives in the same area as me, so i can just walk ot her house |
| 11:32:53 | Mercury | Snake: Lucky. |
| 11:33:06 | Snake | :D |
| 11:33:23 | Bakemono|Sleep | yeah |
| 11:33:23 | Bakemono|Sleep | I know |
| 11:33:27 | Mercury | 's is a few states away. |
| 11:33:42 | Snake | suckies |
| 11:33:43 | Bakemono|Sleep | how old is she? |
| 11:33:46 | Snake | that wouldnt be fun |
| 11:34:06 | Snake | my g/f |
| 11:34:10 | Snake | or mercurys? |
| 11:34:13 | Bakemono|Sleep | Mercury's |
| 11:34:22 | Mercury | About the same age as me. (=:] |
| 11:34:29 | Bakemono|Sleep | and how old are you? |
| 11:34:35 | Mercury | is flying out tomorrow, and will be back the 1st. |
| 11:34:39 | Mercury | 19. |
| 11:34:57 | Bakemono|Sleep | hmm |
| 11:35:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | I seem to have this thing for slightly older chicks |
| 11:35:19 | Bakemono|Sleep | like 2 years older |
| 11:35:26 | Mercury | And how old are you? |
| 11:36:15 | Bakemono|Sleep | 14 |
| 11:36:26 | Mercury | just shakes his head. |
| 11:36:45 | Bakemono|Sleep | shakes the ring finger on his left hand |
| 11:36:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | ...for no apparent reason |
| 11:37:18 | Bakemono|Sleep | I'm still obsessed with this girl I haven't talked to in a year |
| 11:37:26 | Bakemono|Sleep | I'm still writing songs about her |
| 11:37:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | anyways |
| 11:38:09 | Bakemono|Sleep | anyone know the current choice of partition type? |
| 11:38:20 | Bakemono|Sleep | I'd like to get started with the OS |
| 11:50:12 | Snake | MOTHER FUCKING ISP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:50:22 | Snake | hem |
| 11:50:24 | Snake | hrm |
| 11:50:25 | Snake | * |
| 11:50:29 | Snake | anyone still talking? |
| 11:50:38 | Snake | mercury: im 14 by the way |
| 11:50:45 | Snake | thats the last question i got from you |
| 11:51:12 | Snake | hello? |
| 11:51:16 | Snake | anyone home? |
| 11:51:23 | Snake | waves frantically |
| 11:52:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | oh |
| 11:52:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | hey |
| 11:53:18 | Snake | bakemono: do you have aim |
| 11:53:20 | Snake | ? |
| 11:53:23 | Bakemono|Sleep | NO!!!! |
| 11:53:30 | Snake | y? |
| 11:53:54 | Bakemono|Sleep | it's got a in it! |
| 11:54:29 | Snake | its got a in it? |
| 11:54:31 | Snake | ? |
| 11:54:40 | Bakemono|Sleep | as in aol |
| 11:54:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | brb |
| 11:54:51 | Snake | so |
| 11:54:56 | Snake | aol sux0rs |
| 11:55:01 | Snake | but the IM client dosent |
| 11:55:48 | Snake | yay bakemono!!!! |
| 11:56:00 | Snake | i got a book on C++ for christmas!!! |
| 11:56:08 | Snake | yay!!! |
| 11:56:38 | Snake | Learn C++ in 21 Days: Third Edition |
| 11:56:50 | Snake | like the one i had on the computer only a hard copy |
| 11:56:56 | Snake | none of this reading off the screen shit |
| 11:57:06 | Snake | and its bigger then the one i got on the computer |
| 11:59:33 | Snake | and i got another book |
| 11:59:42 | Snake | Hacking Exposed: Third Edition |
| 12:01:14 | knghtbrd | Hacker Weirdboy =) |
| 12:01:20 | Snake | :P |
| 12:01:24 | Snake | hey knghtbrd |
| 12:01:27 | knghtbrd | how's life? |
| 12:01:40 | Snake | good thanks |
| 12:01:42 | Snake | and yours? |
| 12:02:15 | knghtbrd | trying to figure out if we're going to do anything with Q2 and what if so.. =) |
| 12:02:46 | Snake | i c |
| 12:02:48 | Snake | kool |
| 12:03:24 | knghtbrd | OTOH, my joystick support for Project Twilight is on hold, pretty much until next month |
| 12:03:35 | knghtbrd | I have $7 and no controller |
| 12:03:39 | Snake | OTOH? |
| 12:03:53 | knghtbrd | my brother's controller is perfect, but I can't use it. |
| 12:04:03 | knghtbrd | he won't lend it to me for a few days. |
| 12:04:22 | Snake | then steal it |
| 12:04:24 | knghtbrd | OTOH // [Usenet; very common] On The Other Hand. |
| 12:04:35 | Snake | use some solid snake stealth skillz0rs |
| 12:04:47 | Snake | and steal it |
| 12:05:10 | knghtbrd | I don't do that sort of thing |
| 12:05:18 | Snake | aww |
| 12:05:24 | Snake | what a goddy good |
| 12:05:28 | Snake | goddy good* |
| 12:05:34 | Snake | goody good* |
| 12:06:36 | knghtbrd | Yes - I have these strange things called principles. Annoying at times, but all together nice once you get used to them. Seem to be rarer and rarer in the world today. |
| 12:07:09 | Snake | lol |
| 12:07:14 | Snake | i have priciples |
| 12:07:24 | Snake | but if you need something |
| 12:07:28 | Snake | then you getit |
| 12:07:36 | Snake | the you get it* |
| 12:07:43 | Snake | then you get it* |
| 12:07:44 | knghtbrd | It's a week |
| 12:07:49 | Snake | fucking typo's |
| 12:07:50 | knghtbrd | I can wait that. |
| 12:08:00 | knghtbrd | I'm just bored till then. |
| 12:08:07 | Snake | cant wait a week for what? |
| 12:08:19 | knghtbrd | can wait |
| 12:08:21 | knghtbrd | for the controller |
| 12:08:37 | Snake | but you said he wouldnt let you have it |
| 12:08:46 | knghtbrd | I can get my own next month |
| 12:08:55 | Snake | i c |
| 12:09:03 | Snake | ask your parents for one fore xmas |
| 12:09:09 | Snake | for* |
| 12:09:33 | knghtbrd | I'm a little old to ask mommy for toys for xmas |
| 12:09:42 | Snake | lol |
| 12:09:47 | Snake | how old are you? |
| 12:09:51 | knghtbrd | 23 |
| 12:10:16 | Snake | oh |
| 12:10:17 | Snake | lol |
| 12:13:04 | knghtbrd | Besides, I know the people in the game stores personally |
| 12:13:19 | knghtbrd | with the exception of that new guy at Babbages |
| 12:13:32 | knghtbrd | I grumbled that Halo was a massive disappointment. |
| 12:14:00 | Snake | it looks shit |
| 12:14:09 | knghtbrd | He says, "oh, and I suppose you could do better?" |
| 12:14:26 | Snake | i bet you could |
| 12:14:27 | knghtbrd | I was a little annoyed and said, "Yeah, actually." |
| 12:14:55 | knghtbrd | Then he's like, "So why aren't you working at Microsoft?" |
| 12:15:12 | Snake | cause no-one wants to wokr for them |
| 12:15:14 | Snake | work* |
| 12:15:15 | knghtbrd | "Because they couldn't pay me enough to work for them." |
| 12:15:21 | Snake | lol |
| 12:15:21 | knghtbrd | "Oh yeah sure." |
| 12:15:46 | knghtbrd | He's a dork - I will have to educate him. ;) |
| 12:16:09 | Snake | i realy want to get into game designing |
| 12:16:26 | Snake | im going to study computer science hopefuly up to a masters degree |
| 12:16:46 | Snake | and study at "Full Sail" which is a gaming college |
| 12:16:58 | Snake | Game development college* |
| 12:18:46 | Bakemono|Sleep | sleep need sleep |
| 12:18:48 | Snake | my dream is to work next to Hideo Kojima and make MGS6 |
| 12:18:50 | Snake | :P |
| 12:19:10 | Snake | or another version of metal gear solid |
| 12:19:16 | Snake | Hideo is my idle |
| 12:19:26 | Snake | in the gaming world |
| 12:19:42 | Bakemono|Sleep | john carmack used to be my idle |
| 12:19:52 | Snake | what happened? |
| 12:19:59 | Snake | he made the harry potter game? |
| 12:20:01 | Snake | :P |
| 12:20:03 | Bakemono|Sleep | lol |
| 12:20:08 | Snake | that would put anyone off |
| 12:20:15 | Bakemono|Sleep | he's busy working on doom 3 |
| 12:20:16 | Bakemono|Sleep | :) |
| 12:20:20 | Snake | kool |
| 12:20:46 | Bakemono|Sleep | anyways |
| 12:20:48 | Snake | i had a mate who lived down the street from the creater of the original Doom |
| 12:20:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | I'm off to bed |
| 12:20:50 | Coderjoe | knghtbrd: hahahahaha.... what a fscking dork.... |
| 12:20:52 | Snake | ok |
| 12:20:53 | Snake | goodnight |
| 12:21:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | the original doom creator? |
| 12:21:14 | Snake | Coder: are you talking the guy he got into the argument with? |
| 12:21:16 | Bakemono|Sleep | who was that |
| 12:21:19 | Bakemono|Sleep | what's his face |
| 12:21:23 | Bakemono|Sleep | the daikatana d00d? |
| 12:21:27 | Bakemono|Sleep | what's his fucking name |
| 12:21:27 | Snake | not sure what his name was |
| 12:21:34 | Coderjoe | Snake: yes |
| 12:21:37 | Bakemono|Sleep | he left id |
| 12:21:43 | Snake | but he's famous for doom |
| 12:21:47 | Coderjoe | john romero? |
| 12:21:54 | Snake | becuae doom was like the first 3d game |
| 12:21:58 | Snake | i think |
| 12:22:00 | Snake | :/ |
| 12:22:01 | Bakemono|Sleep | Coderjoe: yeah |
| 12:22:02 | Bakemono|Sleep | that guy |
| 12:22:05 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: HA! |
| 12:22:07 | Coderjoe | actually, wolf3d was the first |
| 12:22:13 | Snake | i love that game |
| 12:22:20 | Bakemono|Sleep | Coderjoe: I beg to differ, ever played ultima underworld? |
| 12:22:20 | Snake | wolf3D |
| 12:22:28 | Snake | oh yeah |
| 12:22:33 | Snake | i forgot about that game |
| 12:22:34 | Bakemono|Sleep | and you could jump in underworld :P |
| 12:22:37 | Snake | that was sort of 3d |
| 12:22:46 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: it was just as 3d as wolf3d |
| 12:22:52 | Snake | :/ |
| 12:22:56 | Snake | not from what i saw |
| 12:22:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | I have it |
| 12:23:04 | Bakemono|Sleep | haven't played it much though |
| 12:23:07 | Snake | i looks fun |
| 12:23:10 | Snake | it* |
| 12:23:17 | Coderjoe | if it's anything like the ultima games i have seen (don't remember which ones) it's more of a 2.5d |
| 12:23:22 | Snake | loves old games |
| 12:23:37 | Bakemono|Sleep | Coderjoe: quake was the first fully 3d game |
| 12:23:45 | Snake | lol@Joe |
| 12:23:50 | Bakemono|Sleep | the big leap it made was 3d character models |
| 12:23:54 | Snake | 2.5D |
| 12:24:11 | Coderjoe | 2d, looking down at the ground at an angle, and things could pass over you (which was the .5d, although it's less than that) |
| 12:24:18 | Snake | then PSX was the first gaming console to support 32bit 3D gaming |
| 12:24:42 | Snake | they had quake on playstation i think |
| 12:24:44 | Snake | but it sucked |
| 12:24:45 | Bakemono|Sleep | Coderjoe: underworld utilized the first person perspective |
| 12:24:52 | Coderjoe | Snake: they did. it did. i have it. |
| 12:24:55 | Bakemono|Sleep | which wasn't new at the time |
| 12:25:06 | Bakemono|Sleep | but underworld rendered the levels in real time |
| 12:25:09 | Snake | joe: did it suck |
| 12:25:10 | Snake | ? |
| 12:25:17 | Bakemono|Sleep | I remember the original ultima |
| 12:25:22 | Bakemono|Sleep | it came out in 1980 |
| 12:25:25 | Coderjoe | oh wait. no. i have one of the PSX doom games... |
| 12:25:32 | Snake | well |
| 12:25:34 | Snake | thats sucks too |
| 12:25:45 | Snake | anyone ever play mech warrior on playstation |
| 12:25:47 | Bakemono|Sleep | when you went down into dungeons it was in first person |
| 12:25:53 | Snake | it fucking sucked the world |
| 12:25:55 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: I have mw2 |
| 12:26:03 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: and I've played the original |
| 12:26:12 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: only a little though |
| 12:26:18 | Snake | MW4 0wns |
| 12:26:21 | Coderjoe | actually, i don't remember which one i have, and i'm not going to go check right now... |
| 12:26:43 | Snake | although |
| 12:26:47 | Bakemono|Sleep | I might start working on a small game projects |
| 12:26:49 | Bakemono|Sleep | err |
| 12:26:50 | Bakemono|Sleep | project* |
| 12:26:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | I'll be looking for some really creative minds |
| 12:27:01 | Snake | about ninja;s? |
| 12:27:04 | Bakemono|Sleep | it's called "Dimensions" |
| 12:27:06 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: no |
| 12:27:06 | Snake | ninja's* |
| 12:27:09 | Snake | :P |
| 12:27:17 | Snake | whats it about? |
| 12:27:23 | Snake | cheese |
| 12:27:24 | Snake | ? |
| 12:27:29 | Snake | and cats? |
| 12:27:50 | Snake | or painos, sax's, and bass's |
| 12:28:00 | Bakemono|Sleep | all I have so far is: your character(or whatever) can travel in 4 dimension |
| 12:28:04 | Bakemono|Sleep | dimensions* |
| 12:28:07 | Snake | ? |
| 12:28:09 | Bakemono|Sleep | not at the same time |
| 12:28:13 | Bakemono|Sleep | it'll be in 3d |
| 12:28:23 | Bakemono|Sleep | but you can switch between the 3rd and 4th dimension |
| 12:28:26 | Snake | you go the idea from the arguement we had in the forums? |
| 12:28:39 | Snake | got* |
| 12:28:40 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: nah |
| 12:28:56 | Snake | what do you do in this game? |
| 12:28:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | I was thinking about a program I started writing a long while ago |
| 12:29:15 | Bakemono|Sleep | the program rendered 4d wireframe objects |
| 12:29:24 | Snake | wha? |
| 12:29:27 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: I'm not sure yet |
| 12:29:28 | Snake | there is no 4D |
| 12:29:39 | Snake | i dont see how people can possible think there is a 4D |
| 12:30:17 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: for arguments sake lets say there isn't a 4th spacial dimension. I can still program one into the computer ;) |
| 12:30:28 | Snake | lol |
| 12:30:35 | Snake | but itll look axactly like 3d :/ |
| 12:30:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | when I define a point in a game world it's got x, y, and z variables |
| 12:30:41 | Snake | so you wont see anything 4d? |
| 12:30:46 | Bakemono|Sleep | all I have to do is add w |
| 12:30:52 | Snake | lol |
| 12:30:59 | Snake | but itll still look 3d |
| 12:31:08 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: no, I came up with a way to render 4d objects in 3d |
| 12:31:18 | Snake | yes but what do you think 4d is |
| 12:31:22 | Bakemono|Sleep | just as 3d apps render 3d objects in 2d |
| 12:31:28 | Snake | whats the point of 4d is you dont know its there? |
| 12:31:43 | Snake | cause you cant see 4d in a game |
| 12:31:50 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: sure you can |
| 12:31:54 | Snake | hoe? |
| 12:31:59 | Snake | explain... |
| 12:32:01 | Snake | how* |
| 12:32:09 | Bakemono|Sleep | x = (x/w)/(z/w); y = (y/w)/(z/w); |
| 12:32:25 | Snake | no im talking abouy how would you see it |
| 12:32:29 | Snake | that makes no sense to me |
| 12:32:30 | Bakemono|Sleep | my interpretation of the old school rendering method taken to the next level |
| 12:32:31 | Snake | i failed math |
| 12:32:48 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: it's looked very fucked up |
| 12:33:04 | Snake | but how would you see 4d |
| 12:33:10 | Snake | all you would see is 3d |
| 12:33:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | but the outcome would represent a point in 4d space, which is all that matters |
| 12:33:22 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: why do you say that? |
| 12:33:31 | Snake | because think about it |
| 12:33:35 | Bakemono|Sleep | I am |
| 12:33:35 | Snake | look around your roomk |
| 12:33:37 | Snake | room* |
| 12:33:39 | Bakemono|Sleep | I am |
| 12:33:40 | Snake | its 3d |
| 12:33:42 | Bakemono|Sleep | yes |
| 12:33:45 | Snake | you cant see 4d |
| 12:33:48 | Bakemono|Sleep | no |
| 12:33:50 | Bakemono|Sleep | I can't |
| 12:33:52 | Snake | exactly |
| 12:33:59 | Snake | in a game you wouldbt be able to either |
| 12:34:07 | Snake | there is no object in the world that is 4 d |
| 12:34:10 | Snake | 4d* |
| 12:34:17 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: with some spiffy math you could |
| 12:34:35 | Snake | lifts one eyebrow |
| 12:34:45 | Snake | i dont know much about math |
| 12:34:51 | Snake | but i wasent born yesterday |
| 12:35:01 | Snake | i knwo math or no math 4d is impossible |
| 12:35:04 | Snake | know* |
| 12:35:11 | Bakemono|Sleep | when you play counter strike, you are looking at a 2d image, but how? counter strike is 3d! |
| 12:35:25 | Coderjoe | everything is 4d, but you can only see three of them. the fourth is time |
| 12:35:32 | Snake | ahaha |
| 12:35:33 | Snake | time |
| 12:35:35 | Bakemono|Sleep | Coderjoe: I speak of a 4th SPACIAL dimension |
| 12:35:36 | Snake | :/ |
| 12:35:43 | Bakemono|Sleep | not time |
| 12:35:43 | Snake | exctly |
| 12:35:52 | Snake | dimensions are spacial |
| 12:35:58 | Snake | time is more of a essents |
| 12:36:02 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: x, y, and z are... |
| 12:36:08 | Snake | ya i know |
| 12:36:12 | Snake | i know what 3d is |
| 12:36:31 | Snake | tell me |
| 12:36:36 | Bakemono|Sleep | time can be represented as an additional dimension |
| 12:36:42 | Bakemono|Sleep | but it's not a spacial dimension |
| 12:36:51 | Snake | because of x,y,z is that why 3d modeling is done in triangles |
| 12:36:52 | Bakemono|Sleep | at least it's not like x, y, and z. |
| 12:37:04 | Snake | or is it because triangle ares the best shape for the job |
| 12:37:14 | Bakemono|Sleep | second one |
| 12:37:23 | Snake | i thought so |
| 12:38:07 | Bakemono|Sleep | whether(sp?) or not there really is a 4th spacial dimension that humans are ignorant of, I can still represent a point in 4d space |
| 12:38:26 | Bakemono|Sleep | struct vertex { float x, y, z; }; |
| 12:38:35 | Bakemono|Sleep | struct vertex { float x, y, z, w; }; |
| 12:38:43 | Snake | i c |
| 12:38:47 | Snake | but we cant see it |
| 12:38:51 | Snake | so isnt a waste of time? |
| 12:39:31 | Snake | it would sure as hell make 3d modeling easier i think |
| 12:39:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | I will translate the 4d point to a 3d point the same way progs translate 3d points to 2d points |
| 12:39:56 | Snake | well then whats the point? |
| 12:40:21 | Bakemono|Sleep | to give people headaches |
| 12:40:28 | Snake | why not do struct vertex { float x, y, z, w , u ,v; }; |
| 12:40:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | Snake: no reason you can't have 6 dimensions |
| 12:40:52 | Bakemono|Sleep | I was thinking about makin' the game allow for any number of dimensions :) |
| 12:41:26 | Snake | have a look here |
| 12:41:28 | Snake | http://www.fast4d.com/ |
| 12:41:39 | Snake | here they are usuing time as an excuse to call their games 4d |
| 12:42:30 | Snake | heres a good one too |
| 12:42:31 | Snake | http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demox/Hyper.html |
| 12:42:42 | Bakemono|Sleep | hmm |
| 12:43:01 | Bakemono|Sleep | well, I'll probably be getting started on "Dimensions" in the next few months |
| 12:43:16 | Bakemono|Sleep | you can try it when it does something |
| 12:43:17 | Snake | look at the above link |
| 12:43:18 | Snake | http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demox/Hyper.html |
| 12:43:21 | Bakemono|Sleep | ok |
| 12:43:29 | Snake | its got actual examples of what they say 4d is |
| 12:43:33 | Snake | it may be 4d |
| 12:43:36 | Snake | but pointless |
| 12:44:46 | Snake | it also shows the 4d axis |
| 12:44:51 | Snake | and a box and adiamond |
| 12:44:55 | Snake | diamond |
| 12:44:57 | Snake | and shit |
| 12:45:27 | Snake | but could you realy saw that that i 4d? |
| 12:45:41 | Bakemono|Sleep | I can't see it |
| 12:45:47 | Bakemono|Sleep | I don't have java set up |
| 12:45:52 | Bakemono|Sleep | I gotta get some sleep |
| 12:45:58 | Bakemono|Sleep | nite |
| 12:46:12 | Bakemono|Sleep | turns off his monitor |
| 12:46:28 | Snake | nite |
| 12:46:35 | Snake | CoderJoe |
| 12:46:37 | Snake | goto http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demox/Hyper.html |
| 12:51:19 | Coderjoe | that is fscked up |
| 12:51:36 | Coderjoe | i could swear that that would make me think i was high |
| 12:54:56 | Snake | lol |
| 12:55:02 | Snake | just by looking at it |
| 12:55:10 | Snake | i could turn that image into a 3d one |
| 12:55:16 | Snake | its not 4d |
| 12:56:33 | Snake | without phsyically changing anything |
| 12:56:39 | Snake | i could turn that into a 3d model |
| 12:56:44 | Snake | its so not 4d |
| 13:00:29 | Snake | http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/leave.html |
| 13:21:15 | Snake | heres proof time isnt a dimension that would effect us |
| 13:21:35 | Snake | but i know what you mean now by time being counted as a dimension |
| 13:21:45 | Snake | because objects extend through time |
| 13:21:55 | Snake | they move through time just as we do |
| 13:23:36 | Snake | ok |
| 13:23:44 | Snake | anywayz |
| 13:23:48 | Snake | i g2g |
| 13:23:48 | Snake | bye |
| 18:04:31 | UnevenRatio | hi |
| 18:05:02 | CoolerQ | hi |
| 18:05:20 | UnevenRatio | gee, so it breakfast with u m8 |
| 18:05:55 | CoolerQ | huh? |
| 18:09:27 | UnevenRatio | i mean. i'v noticed that i seem to be at the other end of the time zone |
| 21:39:59 | CoolMan | hey yo all |
| 21:40:08 | CoolMan | any bdy here? |