| 00:07:31 | CoolMan7 | hello? |
| 00:07:35 | CoolMan7 | anybody here? |
| 00:07:46 | CoolMan7 | nick CoolMantest |
| 00:08:54 | Bakemono | 'ello |
| 00:08:54 | CoolMan7 | hey |
| 00:08:54 | xevol | hey guys! |
| 00:08:54 | CoolMan7 | you a dev member bakermono? |
| 00:08:54 | CoolMan7 | hi |
| 00:08:54 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:08:54 | CoolMan7 | sweet |
| 00:09:15 | CoolMan7 | i just found out about the TuxBox and it looks SWEET! |
| 00:09:25 | Bakemono | it's a sweet concept... |
| 00:09:39 | Bakemono | but the development has been a bit slow lately... |
| 00:09:45 | CoolMan7 | really? |
| 00:09:52 | Bakemono | realy |
| 00:09:55 | CoolMan7 | well, do you think i can help? |
| 00:09:55 | Bakemono | really* |
| 00:10:05 | Bakemono | what can you do? |
| 00:10:11 | CoolMan7 | i do c/c++ |
| 00:10:17 | Bakemono | cool |
| 00:10:22 | CoolMan7 | and computer graphics |
| 00:10:28 | Bakemono | what about opengl? |
| 00:10:41 | xevol | computer graphics as in coding them or drawing them ?? |
| 00:10:41 | CoolMan7 | heck yes |
| 00:10:45 | Bakemono | : ) |
| 00:10:57 | CoolMan7 | have you heard of POV-Ray? |
| 00:11:02 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:11:11 | Bakemono | pov ray is great |
| 00:11:13 | CoolMan7 | i use it, and OpenGL |
| 00:11:14 | Bakemono | haven't used it much though |
| 00:11:30 | CoolMan7 | it rocks when you get used to it |
| 00:11:44 | xevol | so drawing (POV-ray) and coding (OpenGL), it would seem ... |
| 00:11:51 | CoolMan7 | right |
| 00:12:00 | CoolMan7 | but i've never coded for linux before |
| 00:12:07 | CoolMan7 | (except on the console) |
| 00:12:08 | Bakemono | : | |
| 00:12:11 | CoolMan7 | yeah |
| 00:12:19 | CoolMan7 | I don't know wher to look |
| 00:12:24 | Bakemono | very easy to get into |
| 00:12:26 | xevol | OpenGL is pretty standard accross platforms ... |
| 00:12:33 | CoolMan7 | yeah so I heard |
| 00:12:44 | Bakemono | linux programming is by far simpler than wind0ze programming |
| 00:12:46 | CoolMan7 | that would be a nice transition |
| 00:12:50 | CoolMan7 | really? |
| 00:12:53 | xevol | Bakemono: oh yes... |
| 00:13:20 | CoolMan7 | anywere I could get started? |
| 00:13:26 | Bakemono | ask me a question |
| 00:13:35 | Bakemono | and then search google for an answer |
| 00:13:39 | CoolMan7 | 'cause I want to dev for the TuxBox when it's out |
| 00:14:03 | CoolMan7 | how do I write apps for X |
| 00:14:15 | CoolMan7 | and how do I bind with OpenGL |
| 00:14:18 | Bakemono | you check out http://tuxgames.scurvypenguin.net when it's done |
| 00:14:22 | xevol | CoolMan7: Your going to write a realtime game in X ?? |
| 00:14:43 | CoolMan7 | that's what TuxBox will use, right? |
| 00:14:48 | Bakemono | well |
| 00:14:54 | CoolMan7 | that's what I heard |
| 00:15:04 | xevol | well, I would imagine that all the basic linux graphics libs will be available |
| 00:15:05 | Bakemono | SDL for 2D |
| 00:15:08 | Bakemono | opengl for 3D |
| 00:15:18 | xevol | like SVGAlib, fbcon, etc ... |
| 00:15:24 | Bakemono | oh yeah... |
| 00:15:25 | CoolMan7 | opengl window in X right? |
| 00:15:34 | Bakemono | we were talking about fb stuff... |
| 00:15:38 | Bakemono | yes, in X |
| 00:15:48 | CoolMan7 | oh so you could use directfb |
| 00:15:53 | xevol | Mesa only works with X currently but the DirectFB people are doing a framebuffer port |
| 00:15:55 | CoolMan7 | and skip X |
| 00:16:00 | Bakemono | I'm lazy, I just init opengl with SDL... |
| 00:16:09 | Bakemono | although it's kinda pointless... |
| 00:16:22 | CoolMan7 | because you won't be doing multi windows |
| 00:16:23 | Bakemono | do you ant to develope games for the tbox? |
| 00:16:27 | xevol | SDL will use which ever backend you give it, including both X or DirectFB ... |
| 00:16:54 | CoolMan7 | yes, bakemono, i do |
| 00:16:58 | Bakemono | cool |
| 00:17:14 | xevol | using SDL is problably a good start then ... |
| 00:17:28 | xevol | or a good library written on top of SDL !! :-) |
| 00:17:30 | CoolMan7 | but, i won't be abe to optimize for hardware yet... |
| 00:17:37 | CoolMan7 | able |
| 00:17:42 | xevol | why not ?? |
| 00:17:54 | Bakemono | we are aiming for a geforce 2 afaik |
| 00:17:56 | CoolMan7 | cause i don't have *that* hardware |
| 00:18:02 | Bakemono | might change if the project stalls much longer... |
| 00:18:06 | CoolMan7 | yeah |
| 00:18:12 | CoolMan7 | i was thinking that |
| 00:18:23 | CoolMan7 | it might be a good idea to wait |
| 00:18:39 | CoolMan7 | because america is in an economic slump |
| 00:18:48 | Bakemono | I'm developing a game for linux, which I will optimize for the tbox when the time comes |
| 00:18:50 | xevol | waiting?? waiting is for people without motavation ! |
| 00:19:00 | Bakemono | like me |
| 00:19:06 | CoolMan7 | i hoped you would say that ;) |
| 00:19:14 | CoolMan7 | i'm an action person |
| 00:19:26 | CoolMan7 | but it might lead to the projects failure |
| 00:19:46 | xevol | free software projects never fail ... |
| 00:19:56 | xevol | they tend to out live the poeple who start them ... |
| 00:19:56 | Bakemono | I'm working on an rpg engine |
| 00:20:10 | CoolMan7 | so, what libs will be pre-packaged with the tbox? |
| 00:20:11 | xevol | Bakemono: is your site up yet ?? |
| 00:20:17 | Bakemono | of course it is! |
| 00:20:20 | Bakemono | I hope... |
| 00:20:27 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 00:20:27 | CoolMan7 | oh shoot |
| 00:20:28 | Bakemono | it's up |
| 00:20:28 | xevol | Bakemono: well, what is it ?? |
| 00:20:33 | Bakemono | http://lgme.scurvypenguin.net |
| 00:20:38 | Bakemono | that's where the game stuff is |
| 00:20:40 | CoolMan7 | how long will you guys be here? |
| 00:20:42 | Bakemono | http://scurvypenguin.net |
| 00:20:53 | Bakemono | that's where everything else is |
| 00:21:00 | Bakemono | I'm Yoda btw |
| 00:21:06 | Bakemono | Yoda I am btw |
| 00:21:15 | CoolMan7 | lol |
| 00:21:24 | Bakemono | Work on game I now will do |
| 00:21:27 | CoolMan7 | i have to go eat supper |
| 00:21:34 | CoolMan7 | (i'm 15 by the way) |
| 00:21:35 | Bakemono | later |
| 00:21:38 | xevol | Proteus RPG engine, is it ?? |
| 00:21:39 | Bakemono | that's ok |
| 00:21:40 | Bakemono | I'm 14 |
| 00:21:43 | CoolMan7 | check this out tho |
| 00:21:44 | Bakemono | xevol: yes |
| 00:21:51 | Bakemono | and I seem to be leading this project... |
| 00:21:57 | CoolMan7 | http://opengbgames.sourceforge.net |
| 00:22:01 | Bakemono | sporks travis_143cw |
| 00:22:41 | Bakemono | cool |
| 00:22:47 | Bakemono | I've seen that page before |
| 00:23:01 | Bakemono | that page says you're 14. |
| 00:23:02 | Bakemono | .. |
| 00:23:04 | Bakemono | ....... |
| 00:23:14 | CoolMan7|Eating_Supper | i'm the headf of that project |
| 00:23:35 | Bakemono | yeah.. |
| 00:23:42 | xevol | 14? that has to be dated ?? |
| 00:23:51 | Bakemono | ECK!!!! |
| 00:23:52 | Bakemono | d00d |
| 00:24:17 | Bakemono | if I were you I'd make the "project page" link open take over the window |
| 00:24:21 | Bakemono | instead of goin' in that frame |
| 00:25:15 | xevol | Bakemono: yes, that does look awkward ... |
| 00:25:56 | Bakemono | the new source forge logo sux0rs |
| 00:25:57 | Bakemono | brb |
| 00:25:59 | Bakemono | need a soda |
| 00:26:20 | xevol | Bakemono: You say the source on your site is obsolete, is it worth looking at ?? |
| 00:26:57 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:26:58 | Bakemono | maybe |
| 00:26:59 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:27:07 | Bakemono | hold on |
| 00:27:09 | Bakemono | I have new source |
| 00:27:18 | Bakemono | it's hidden somewhere on my site... |
| 00:28:04 | Bakemono | http://lgme.scurvypenguin.net/proteus/proteus-11.22.tar.gz |
| 00:28:10 | xevol | Bakemono: why not use CVS or Subversion or something ... |
| 00:28:12 | Bakemono | that's from 11/22 |
| 00:28:19 | Bakemono | I've been using CVS... |
| 00:28:25 | Bakemono | not sure why I stopped... |
| 00:28:27 | Bakemono | hmmm |
| 00:28:35 | xevol | Do you have pserver access ?? |
| 00:28:36 | Bakemono | I'm REALLY not sure why I stopped....... |
| 00:28:46 | Bakemono | I was using sourceforge |
| 00:30:05 | Bakemono | I'm gonna try to get some work done now |
| 00:30:50 | xevol | Shouldn't go on irc if your serious about working ... |
| 00:30:51 | xevol | :-) |
| 00:30:56 | Bakemono | hehehe |
| 00:32:19 | Bakemono | wb |
| 00:32:25 | CoolMan7 | hehe I'm back, miss me? |
| 00:32:32 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:32:33 | Bakemono | : P |
| 00:32:45 | xevol | Bakemono: all i get is a blank screen ?? What's it supposed to do ?? |
| 00:32:48 | CoolMan7 | yeah, I'm the head of The Open GameBoy Games Project |
| 00:32:52 | Bakemono | xevol: nothin' |
| 00:32:54 | Bakemono | oh wait |
| 00:33:01 | Bakemono | the old source code? |
| 00:33:08 | xevol | Bakemono: no the new |
| 00:33:14 | Bakemono | oh |
| 00:33:20 | Bakemono | it ain't supposed to do anything... |
| 00:33:48 | xevol | ummm. Well, its not a very complete RPG engine !! :-) |
| 00:34:17 | CoolMan7 | hey, what did you guys think of my logo on the OSGBG site? |
| 00:34:29 | Bakemono | lemme look |
| 00:34:39 | Bakemono | xevol: obviously not... |
| 00:34:42 | CoolMan7 | POV-Ray all the way |
| 00:34:52 | xevol | I express little interest in logos of any kind ... but code on the other hand !?!?! |
| 00:35:05 | Bakemono | it's ok I suppose... |
| 00:35:08 | CoolMan7 | I wrote OpenMAZE |
| 00:35:29 | CoolMan7 | xevol: what do you think of OpenMAZE? |
| 00:35:49 | CoolMan7 | for the code, not for game quality |
| 00:35:56 | xevol | CoolMan7: I didn't look at the code ... |
| 00:36:08 | xevol | CoolMan7: I can only do so much in a couple minutes ... |
| 00:36:08 | CoolMan7 | oh, did you play the game? |
| 00:36:17 | CoolMan7 | lol |
| 00:36:26 | CoolMan7 | that's cool |
| 00:36:49 | CoolMan7 | so you said to use SDL? what exactly is that? |
| 00:37:01 | Bakemono | http://libsdl.org |
| 00:37:04 | Bakemono | it's supa tight |
| 00:37:17 | Bakemono | Simple Directmedia Layer |
| 00:37:18 | Bakemono | or something |
| 00:37:22 | Bakemono | for 2D graphics |
| 00:37:26 | Bakemono | it does other stuff too |
| 00:37:28 | Bakemono | sound |
| 00:37:29 | Bakemono | input |
| 00:37:33 | CoolMan7 | so it's a 2d graphics lib? |
| 00:37:35 | Bakemono | threads |
| 00:37:36 | CoolMan7 | oh |
| 00:37:37 | xevol | it doesn't really do 2d graphics ... |
| 00:37:41 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:37:46 | Bakemono | I suppose it doesn't |
| 00:37:51 | xevol | it only sets up the video-buffer and lets you do what you want ... |
| 00:37:51 | Bakemono | but it makes it alot easier |
| 00:38:16 | CoolMan7 | oh, so you can set up the video buffer, then have opengl draw to it? |
| 00:38:22 | xevol | no ... |
| 00:38:33 | xevol | when you use opengl with SDL, opengl manages the buffer |
| 00:38:45 | CoolMan7 | i'm completely confused |
| 00:39:05 | xevol | SDL can't create a normal 2d frame buffer and hands you a pointer to its data ... |
| 00:39:11 | xevol | s/can't/can/ |
| 00:39:47 | xevol | it also supports hw-accel surface blitting and asm-accel'ed software blitting ... |
| 00:40:04 | CoolMan7 | blitting? |
| 00:40:11 | CoolMan7 | see, i'm really new |
| 00:40:15 | xevol | drawing one surface to another ... |
| 00:40:23 | CoolMan7 | OpenMAZE was my first prog... |
| 00:40:35 | Bakemono | I thought you were a 1337 hax0r |
| 00:40:47 | xevol | hax0r ?? |
| 00:40:58 | xevol | come on, we're better than that !! |
| 00:41:06 | xevol | :-) |
| 00:41:35 | CoolMan7 | you thought I was what? |
| 00:42:07 | Bakemono | hehehe |
| 00:42:16 | CoolMan7 | I wrote openmaze a year ago, then I jumped to windoze opengl |
| 00:42:26 | xevol | childish little cracker warez-isms ... |
| 00:42:32 | Bakemono | oh |
| 00:43:21 | CoolMan7 | (I use a version of Visual C++ that i didn't buy...) |
| 00:43:35 | CoolMan7 | ;-D |
| 00:44:23 | Bakemono | ooo yay |
| 00:44:26 | Bakemono | it doesn't crash... |
| 00:44:29 | CoolMan7 | but, we all start somwere right? |
| 00:44:39 | CoolMan7 | what doesn't crash? |
| 00:44:42 | Bakemono | my rpg engine |
| 00:44:46 | Bakemono | : ) |
| 00:44:51 | Bakemono | doesn't really do anything yet.... |
| 00:45:04 | Bakemono | anything including crashing |
| 00:45:07 | xevol | the openmaze source is interesting ... Are all the GameBoy commands C macros ?? |
| 00:45:11 | CoolMan7 | not-crashing is allways a plus |
| 00:45:21 | CoolMan7 | no |
| 00:45:36 | CoolMan7 | asm funcs |
| 00:45:39 | CoolMan7 | mostly |
| 00:46:01 | CoolMan7 | it's a modified Z80 processer |
| 00:46:08 | CoolMan7 | the GameBoy is |
| 00:46:15 | Bakemono | SHIT |
| 00:46:21 | CoolMan7 | ? |
| 00:46:24 | CoolMan7 | why |
| 00:46:28 | Bakemono | bah |
| 00:46:28 | xevol | Bakemono: Your rpg engine code is just setting up the hardware to test that you can get it working ?? |
| 00:46:48 | Bakemono | xevol: no... |
| 00:47:02 | Bakemono | hold on |
| 00:47:05 | xevol | CoolMan7: The asm is invoked through C macros, it appears .. |
| 00:47:15 | xevol | Bakemono: Well, I mean the active parts ... |
| 00:47:26 | CoolMan7 | hmmm |
| 00:47:27 | xevol | Bakemono: You have some RPG logic code that is untapped ... |
| 00:47:32 | Bakemono | I just unzipped this openmaze thing into my home directory |
| 00:47:39 | Bakemono | thinking it was gonna go into a subdirectory |
| 00:47:43 | Bakemono | stabs CoolMan7 |
| 00:47:44 | xevol | yea look out |
| 00:47:46 | CoolMan7 | oops |
| 00:47:53 | xevol | that is one of my pet-peeves |
| 00:47:55 | CoolMan7 | sorry, my bad |
| 00:48:06 | xevol | but you should check tar -tzvf first anyway ... |
| 00:48:18 | CoolMan7 | i'm struggling to get away from windoze |
| 00:50:09 | Bakemono | ok |
| 00:50:17 | Bakemono | fixed |
| 00:50:20 | Bakemono | you bastard |
| 00:50:24 | Bakemono | }8-|:| |
| 00:50:35 | Bakemono | zipped that in wind0ze aye? |
| 00:50:39 | CoolMan7 | did you guys use NeHe's tutorials to learn OpenGL under linux/sdl? |
| 00:50:40 | CoolMan7 | yes |
| 00:50:44 | CoolMan7 | sorry |
| 00:50:44 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:50:48 | Bakemono | I purchased the red book |
| 00:50:55 | CoolMan7 | you luck dog |
| 00:50:59 | CoolMan7 | lucky |
| 00:51:05 | Bakemono | actually, I learned most of my opengl stuff from nehe |
| 00:51:09 | Bakemono | so yes |
| 00:51:15 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 00:51:19 | Bakemono | but I have the red book now |
| 00:51:22 | Bakemono | which is what I use |
| 00:51:37 | CoolMan7 | the red book helps alot does it? |
| 00:51:42 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:52:02 | CoolMan7 | cause, I was having trouble with multiple textures... |
| 00:52:09 | Bakemono | it talks about 'em |
| 00:52:17 | CoolMan7 | and the OpenGL SuperBible didn't help one bit |
| 00:52:22 | Bakemono | eck |
| 00:52:33 | xevol | Bakemono: Would it help you RPG engine progress if you didn't have to worry about doing harware things and just did the RPG logic stuff ?? |
| 00:52:43 | Bakemono | xevol: yes |
| 00:52:58 | xevol | Bakemono: Then why are you using straight SDL ?? |
| 00:53:11 | Bakemono | xevol: ??? |
| 00:53:16 | xevol | CoolMan7: glBindTexture ?? |
| 00:53:18 | CoolMan7 | bakemono: my dad found it in some book store for like $7 |
| 00:53:33 | CoolMan7 | ***glBindTexture***!!! |
| 00:53:38 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 00:53:39 | CoolMan7 | aaaaarrrrrgggghh! |
| 00:53:43 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 00:53:43 | Bakemono | !!! |
| 00:53:46 | Bakemono | : | |
| 00:53:50 | CoolMan7 | the fools! |
| 00:53:50 | Bakemono | xevol: what do you mean? |
| 00:54:02 | CoolMan7 | : ( snif snif |
| 00:54:19 | xevol | Bakemono: Well, I am just trying to say that if you used something higher than SDL that handled all the system crap, it would be easier to work on SDL ... |
| 00:54:58 | xevol | Bakemono: something higher, like ... libksd |
| 00:54:58 | xevol | Bakemono: :-) |
| 00:54:58 | Bakemono | hehehehe |
| 00:54:58 | CoolMan7 | hey, guys. |
| 00:55:04 | xevol | Bakemono: Well, then maybe your demo could do something too !! |
| 00:55:12 | Bakemono | SDL was my extra layer to make the code shorter... |
| 00:55:19 | Bakemono | : | |
| 00:55:20 | CoolMan7 | so what can I do to nudge TBox along |
| 00:55:21 | CoolMan7 | ? |
| 00:55:25 | xevol | Bakemono: it could get EVEN SHORTER !! |
| 00:55:38 | Bakemono | eventually I'll probably just use xlib to open the window |
| 00:55:53 | xevol | window?? There are no windows on a console ... |
| 00:55:53 | Bakemono | or maybe I'll rewrite the whole game in assembly!!! |
| 00:56:04 | Bakemono | xevol: this ain't no console game |
| 00:56:07 | xevol | assembly?? impossible to maintain ... |
| 00:56:15 | Bakemono | that was a joke man... |
| 00:56:27 | xevol | Bakemono: then what does that have to do with the tuxbox ?? |
| 00:56:39 | Bakemono | not much |
| 00:56:46 | Bakemono | ...... |
| 00:56:57 | xevol | Bakemono: you need some cross-project pollination ... |
| 00:57:06 | Bakemono | ... |
| 00:57:18 | xevol | Make your RPG engine run on the tuxbox i mean |
| 00:57:25 | xevol | given that the tuxbox is a console |
| 00:57:50 | Bakemono | have we decided that the tbox will use the frame buffer for graphics? |
| 00:58:18 | xevol | huh?? |
| 00:58:35 | xevol | I think we have some term confusing ... |
| 00:58:38 | Bakemono | weren't you the pro fb d00d? |
| 00:58:52 | xevol | A console system is like a super nintendo ... |
| 00:58:55 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:58:57 | Bakemono | I know |
| 00:59:05 | xevol | Yes, I am pro frame buffer ... |
| 00:59:15 | CoolMan7 | i think directfb would be a good idea |
| 00:59:18 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:59:39 | xevol | But using Xlib is pointless because a console is a fullscreen target ... |
| 00:59:42 | Bakemono | we could use just directfb, just x, or allow both |
| 00:59:53 | xevol | allow both ... |
| 01:00:05 | xevol | but xlib is inappropriate for most use ... |
| 01:00:06 | Bakemono | xevol: 640x480 wind0w ontop of a 640x480 desktop... |
| 01:00:18 | Bakemono | ... = fullscreen app |
| 01:00:24 | CoolMan7 | dudes, IS THERE SOME WAY I CAN HELP WITH THE TBOX PROJECT |
| 01:00:29 | xevol | Bakemono: Thats an Xlib-ism ... fullscreen is different ... |
| 01:00:29 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:00:43 | CoolMan7 | drop X man |
| 01:00:49 | Bakemono | that's generally the method of achieving a fullscreen app in X |
| 01:00:52 | CoolMan7 | too much overhead |
| 01:01:00 | xevol | But thats not hardware fullscreen !! |
| 01:01:05 | Bakemono | no, it's not |
| 01:01:10 | CoolMan7 | i agree with xevol |
| 01:01:11 | xevol | thats just maximizing a window !! |
| 01:01:14 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:01:30 | xevol | A console is essentially a crappy computer with a really nice video card ... |
| 01:01:38 | CoolMan7 | x is a bad way of doing it |
| 01:01:56 | Bakemono | we could take the direct frame buffer route, but what about hardware drivers? |
| 01:02:04 | Bakemono | graphics hardware |
| 01:02:08 | xevol | I could understand X for running something that needed a windowing environment, like the gimp ... |
| 01:02:20 | CoolMan7 | what graphics hardware is the TBox using again? |
| 01:02:34 | xevol | Bakemono: Some vid-cards work well with fbcon and other do not ... its a matter of testing ... |
| 01:02:44 | Bakemono | how exactly do they work? |
| 01:03:03 | Bakemono | where is the support for fbcon? |
| 01:03:09 | Bakemono | for 3D hardware |
| 01:03:23 | Bakemono | decides to reword that question |
| 01:03:32 | xevol | 3D hardware is a different story ... |
| 01:03:50 | xevol | that has to do with the DirtFB port of Mesa |
| 01:04:00 | xevol | s/Dirt/Direct |
| 01:04:00 | Bakemono | ok |
| 01:04:04 | Bakemono | hehehe |
| 01:04:19 | CoolMan7 | so guys how can I help |
| 01:04:30 | Bakemono | CoolMan7: we'll see |
| 01:04:35 | CoolMan7 | i'm itching to get in on this project |
| 01:04:43 | Bakemono | just come in here often |
| 01:04:54 | CoolMan7 | did you guys get many submissions for T-Shirts? |
| 01:04:55 | xevol | CoolMan7: Anything you can get to run on linux, SHOULD run on the tuxbox ... |
| 01:05:00 | Bakemono | I dont' know |
| 01:05:13 | CoolMan7 | wait... |
| 01:05:15 | xevol | CoolMan7: So if you just want to write games you can start now ... |
| 01:05:35 | Bakemono | you should check out my site |
| 01:05:40 | Bakemono | http://lgme.scurvypenguin.net |
| 01:05:42 | CoolMan7 | i think the name tuxbox is bad tho |
| 01:05:44 | Bakemono | talk about starting up a project there |
| 01:05:48 | Bakemono | I'm sure there will be some interest |
| 01:06:03 | Bakemono | CoolMan7: that doesn't matter now... |
| 01:06:03 | CoolMan7 | cause it makes people think of xbox |
| 01:06:11 | Bakemono | that's not important |
| 01:06:14 | Bakemono | worry about that later |
| 01:06:35 | xevol | I need to actually do some work now ... |
| 01:06:42 | xevol | So I'll argue with ya' later !! |
| 01:06:45 | Bakemono | what sort of work |
| 01:06:46 | Bakemono | ? |
| 01:06:46 | xevol | ;-) |
| 01:06:50 | xevol | libksd stuff |
| 01:06:50 | Bakemono | : ) |
| 01:06:52 | Bakemono | oh |
| 01:06:54 | Bakemono | have fun ;) |
| 01:07:02 | CoolMan7 | it's alot of work to change the name of a project, it should be started soon |
| 01:07:30 | CoolMan7 | you know what I mean? |
| 01:07:34 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:07:34 | Bakemono | I do |
| 01:08:22 | CoolMan7 | all of my friends that i've mentioned this to have been like... |
| 01:08:37 | CoolMan7 | what, is the xbox a long time ago? |
| 01:08:53 | Bakemono | : | |
| 01:09:08 | CoolMan7 | (my non-linux literate friends) |
| 01:09:16 | CoolMan7 | but that sux |
| 01:09:17 | Bakemono | yeah... |
| 01:09:40 | CoolMan7 | and if you guys are going to sell T-Shirts... |
| 01:10:10 | CoolMan7 | so who is the project head anyway? travis? |
| 01:11:01 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:11:03 | Bakemono | travis |
| 01:11:06 | CoolMan7 | ok |
| 01:11:11 | Bakemono | I'm a tad more active than him |
| 01:11:17 | CoolMan7 | what is to be dane about a controller? |
| 01:11:23 | CoolMan7 | done |
| 01:11:26 | Bakemono | that's why I'm going to murder him and take over the project |
| 01:11:32 | CoolMan7 | lol |
| 01:11:37 | CoolMan7 | ;^D |
| 01:11:45 | Bakemono | travis had some ideas |
| 01:11:47 | Bakemono | talk to him |
| 01:11:53 | Bakemono | :P |
| 01:11:55 | CoolMan7 | well... |
| 01:12:06 | CoolMan7 | have you heard of directpadpro? |
| 01:12:58 | Bakemono | no |
| 01:13:24 | CoolMan7 | it's a windoze driver to use console controllers over the paralell port |
| 01:13:44 | CoolMan7 | i use it with playstation controllers |
| 01:13:48 | Bakemono | cool |
| 01:14:23 | CoolMan7 | my point is, that console controllers that allready exist are easy enought to interface with |
| 01:15:00 | CoolMan7 | i mean, it even supported rumble on the playstation controller |
| 01:15:32 | Bakemono | cool |
| 01:16:22 | CoolMan7 | so what do you think? |
| 01:16:41 | Bakemono | not sure |
| 01:16:43 | Bakemono | what I think |
| 01:16:49 | CoolMan7 | that would save money |
| 01:16:55 | Bakemono | maybe |
| 01:17:35 | CoolMan7 | I know that a PS2 controller > USB interface exists |
| 01:18:04 | CoolMan7 | cause you need a standard controller |
| 01:18:10 | CoolMan7 | right? |
| 01:19:49 | CoolMan7 | because otherwise, you could go out and buy a USB controller that doesn't have enough buttons |
| 01:20:02 | CoolMan7 | oh |
| 01:20:05 | CoolMan7 | wait |
| 01:20:37 | CoolMan7 | you could pick a USB controller, and say "This is the only controller we support" |
| 01:20:51 | CoolMan7 | hello? |
| 01:20:54 | Bakemono | I'm here |
| 01:20:54 | Bakemono | sorta |
| 01:21:05 | CoolMan7 | multitasking? ;) |
| 01:21:27 | Bakemono | somethin' like that |
| 01:22:03 | CoolMan7 | sombody said that the only thing holding up the prototype is the OS development |
| 01:22:20 | CoolMan7 | you guys having trouble with somthing specific? |
| 01:22:26 | Bakemono | no |
| 01:22:29 | Bakemono | just been quite lazy |
| 01:23:02 | CoolMan7 | lazy! |
| 01:23:06 | CoolMan7 | you bum! |
| 01:23:09 | CoolMan7 | ;) |
| 01:23:43 | CoolMan7 | check this out |
| 01:23:51 | Bakemono | ok |
| 01:24:02 | CoolMan7 | i just bought a GameCube with tha hopes of hacking it up |
| 01:24:11 | CoolMan7 | and doing amature devving with it |
| 01:24:35 | CoolMan7 | it won't boot off a CDR |
| 01:24:39 | CoolMan7 | heck |
| 01:24:51 | CoolMan7 | CDR's won't even FIT it the stupid thing |
| 01:25:00 | Bakemono | : | |
| 01:25:29 | CoolMan7 | so I got mad and started looking for other ways to boot it |
| 01:26:01 | CoolMan7 | and accidentally stumbled acrossed "Indrema" |
| 01:26:24 | CoolMan7 | I was all happy cause here was a console that I could dev for |
| 01:26:29 | CoolMan7 | with no hassle |
| 01:26:50 | CoolMan7 | but, oops! "Indrema" doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:26:59 | Bakemono | too bad eh? |
| 01:27:12 | CoolMan7 | ah, but look at this |
| 01:27:21 | CoolMan7 | here is a new hope |
| 01:27:31 | Bakemono | the death of the indrema is the reason the tbox exists |
| 01:27:47 | CoolMan7 | the console with the bad name "TuxBox"! |
| 01:28:04 | Bakemono | heh |
| 01:28:30 | CoolMan7 | I will pour anything I have the power to give into this project |
| 01:28:45 | CoolMan7 | have you read anything of the bible? |
| 01:29:39 | CoolMan7 | (i'm not going to preach at you |
| 01:29:40 | CoolMan7 | ) |
| 01:29:50 | Bakemono | no... |
| 01:29:56 | Bakemono | I haven't read much of the bible |
| 01:29:56 | Bakemono | brb |
| 01:31:53 | CoolMan7 | just that God said "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them." |
| 01:32:17 | CoolMan7 | (the context is different, but the concept remains) |
| 01:33:32 | Bakemono | ... |
| 01:33:33 | CoolMan7 | so I think this can be done. |
| 01:34:00 | CoolMan7 | and if it is done well, it could take a nick out of microsoft's hold on the world |
| 01:34:17 | CoolMan7 | so what do you think? |
| 01:34:56 | Bakemono | I think I need to read up on BSP trees... |
| 01:35:04 | CoolMan7 | BSP trees? |
| 01:35:08 | CoolMan7 | what are they? |
| 01:35:18 | Bakemono | binary space partitioning trees |
| 01:35:28 | CoolMan7 | woo |
| 01:35:40 | Bakemono | a long long time ago, someone(maybe john carmack) decided to use 'em in a game |
| 01:35:51 | Bakemono | one of the older FPSs... |
| 01:35:56 | Bakemono | quake or something |
| 01:35:56 | CoolMan7 | yeah? |
| 01:36:13 | CoolMan7 | so what is it used for? |
| 01:36:36 | Bakemono | levels in games |
| 01:36:47 | CoolMan7 | designing them? |
| 01:36:58 | CoolMan7 | or positioning during the game? |
| 01:37:10 | CoolMan7 | engine logic... |
| 01:38:18 | Bakemono | game levels |
| 01:38:24 | Bakemono | like buildings and stuff |
| 01:39:15 | Bakemono | http://www.gamers.org/dEngine/quake/archive/a_march96/0019.html |
| 01:39:17 | Bakemono | that's old |
| 01:39:21 | Bakemono | but might tell you something |
| 01:39:34 | CoolMan7 | checking it out |
| 01:40:17 | Bakemono | nm |
| 01:40:23 | Bakemono | that doesn't really say anything |
| 01:41:12 | CoolMan7 | ohp too late |
| 01:41:15 | CoolMan7 | allready read it |
| 01:41:35 | CoolMan7 | ;^P |
| 01:42:03 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 01:42:17 | Bakemono | now I'm not sure bsp trees will suit my purpose... |
| 01:42:26 | CoolMan7 | oh well |
| 01:43:17 | CoolMan7 | so you think if i write a game that will run on my computer, (under linux) it can be easly modifyed for TBOX? |
| 01:43:44 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:44:01 | CoolMan7 | and freeware games... |
| 01:44:05 | CoolMan7 | for the tbox |
| 01:44:19 | CoolMan7 | they will be distributed over the internet |
| 01:44:23 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:44:52 | CoolMan7 | but will they be cd images? or like a TGZ game-package? |
| 01:45:07 | Bakemono | not sure what format they will be in |
| 01:45:20 | Bakemono | but small games will be downloaded to the tbox's hard drive |
| 01:45:35 | CoolMan7 | hey, check this idea |
| 01:45:57 | CoolMan7 | all processes will have root priv? |
| 01:46:02 | Bakemono | no |
| 01:46:05 | CoolMan7 | ? |
| 01:46:20 | CoolMan7 | then how could you preform an auto update? |
| 01:46:46 | Bakemono | auto update for what? |
| 01:46:52 | CoolMan7 | the OS? |
| 01:47:15 | Bakemono | probably a suid program |
| 01:47:19 | Bakemono | or whatever they're called |
| 01:47:35 | CoolMan7 | ok, well i'm a unix newbie anyway so... |
| 01:47:40 | CoolMan7 | but check this idea |
| 01:47:52 | Bakemono | best example would be passwd |
| 01:48:10 | CoolMan7 | there is like a "game home dir" or somthing |
| 01:48:13 | Bakemono | when you run it as a normal user, it edits /etc/passwd, or /etc/shadow, or whatever... |
| 01:48:18 | Bakemono | which is 0wn3d by root |
| 01:48:33 | Bakemono | it can do it because a special permission flag is set |
| 01:48:43 | Bakemono | chmod 4755 /bin/passwd |
| 01:48:43 | CoolMan7 | oic |
| 01:48:45 | Bakemono | : ) |
| 01:48:58 | CoolMan7 | so, anyway |
| 01:49:09 | CoolMan7 | when you download a game |
| 01:49:19 | CoolMan7 | it would go in this "game dir" |
| 01:49:30 | CoolMan7 | (transparently of course) |
| 01:49:40 | Bakemono | the hard drive will be split into 2 parts, system(read only) and user(for games and stuff) |
| 01:50:00 | Bakemono | -rws--x--x 1 root bin 35620 Jun 18 2000 /usr/bin/passwd |
| 01:50:07 | CoolMan7 | bu the cool thing is, the game is a TGZ with all the game's files |
| 01:50:09 | Bakemono | that's a suid proggy |
| 01:50:33 | CoolMan7 | ok yeah |
| 01:50:40 | CoolMan7 | it could work |
| 01:51:07 | CoolMan7 | so the "game.tgz" file could have a tag inside it |
| 01:51:20 | CoolMan7 | (like a plain text file) |
| 01:51:23 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 01:51:28 | Bakemono | .tuxbox or something |
| 01:51:38 | CoolMan7 | with game name,info,rating |
| 01:51:43 | CoolMan7 | stuff like that |
| 01:51:46 | Bakemono | yes |
| 01:51:57 | CoolMan7 | so the user never sees the real file |
| 01:52:09 | CoolMan7 | never has to muck with it |
| 01:52:38 | CoolMan7 | and when it has to be executed, |
| 01:52:57 | Bakemono | tar xzfv game.tgz/tar.gz tuxboxinfo |
| 01:53:04 | CoolMan7 | it's just unzipped, the UI is killed, and the prog run! |
| 01:53:08 | CoolMan7 | right! |
| 01:53:11 | CoolMan7 | sweet |
| 01:53:33 | CoolMan7 | so it could look at and game file, and know anything about it |
| 01:53:41 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 01:53:45 | CoolMan7 | and it would be very clean too |
| 01:53:51 | CoolMan7 | no clutter |
| 01:54:09 | CoolMan7 | ooh one prob tho |
| 01:54:49 | CoolMan7 | more than one game could have the same name |
| 01:54:55 | CoolMan7 | (owch) |
| 01:55:31 | CoolMan7 | well, no. there could be a central database with all the games in it |
| 01:55:35 | CoolMan7 | right? |
| 01:55:45 | Bakemono | that's one solution... |
| 01:56:03 | Bakemono | we were talking about a certification process |
| 01:56:07 | CoolMan7 | the game would get certified, rated, and dropped onto the web site |
| 01:56:10 | Bakemono | but I think travis decided to dump that idea |
| 01:56:16 | CoolMan7 | really? |
| 01:56:19 | Bakemono | not sure |
| 01:56:19 | Bakemono | maybe |
| 01:56:24 | Bakemono | I think it's the way to go |
| 01:56:28 | Bakemono | he might be in here later |
| 01:56:36 | CoolMan7 | yeah, it would be heavy maintenance tho |
| 01:56:41 | CoolMan7 | really? |
| 01:56:51 | CoolMan7 | i would like to talk to him |
| 01:57:18 | CoolMan7 | and i think i will dev a game |
| 01:57:32 | CoolMan7 | freeware of course |
| 01:57:49 | Bakemono | I started an open source game development team |
| 01:57:58 | CoolMan7 | really? |
| 01:58:03 | Bakemono | Little Green Men Entertainment |
| 01:58:10 | Bakemono | http://lgme.scurvypenguin.net |
| 01:58:18 | Bakemono | note: web site sucks, being worked on |
| 01:58:21 | CoolMan7 | checking it out |
| 01:58:24 | CoolMan7 | oic |
| 01:58:28 | Bakemono | we are looking for developers, and ideas |
| 01:58:40 | Bakemono | http://lgme.scurvypenguin.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi |
| 01:58:46 | CoolMan7 | well I have an idea that i am going to pursue |
| 01:58:50 | Bakemono | currently we are working on an rpg engine |
| 01:59:07 | Bakemono | but the plan is to have multiple "sub-teams" working on different projects |
| 01:59:20 | CoolMan7 | makes sense |
| 01:59:23 | Bakemono | the goal is to develope high quality large scale open source games |
| 01:59:54 | Bakemono | one of the more popular ideas is an ultra realistic first person shooter |
| 02:00:00 | Bakemono | and I don't mean realistic gore and such |
| 02:00:03 | CoolMan7 | hmm |
| 02:00:07 | Bakemono | but make it feal more real |
| 02:00:10 | Bakemono | the way it plays |
| 02:00:14 | Bakemono | team based of course |
| 02:00:15 | CoolMan7 | that would be cool |
| 02:00:21 | CoolMan7 | hey, |
| 02:00:24 | Bakemono | hey |
| 02:00:32 | Bakemono | I think my dinner is about ready |
| 02:00:40 | CoolMan7 | yeah? |
| 02:00:45 | Bakemono | heh |
| 02:00:47 | Bakemono | you said hey |
| 02:00:49 | Bakemono | I said hey back |
| 02:00:55 | CoolMan7 | i've got some \WAY/ over due homework |
| 02:01:01 | CoolMan7 | oh yeah |
| 02:01:23 | CoolMan7 | well, did you ever play myst, riven, myst3? |
| 02:01:35 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:01:37 | Bakemono | I played myst |
| 02:01:41 | Bakemono | and riven |
| 02:01:46 | CoolMan7 | liked them? |
| 02:01:48 | Bakemono | damn fun games |
| 02:01:50 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:01:52 | Bakemono | actually |
| 02:01:53 | Bakemono | I loved 'em |
| 02:01:58 | CoolMan7 | yeah |
| 02:02:00 | Bakemono | they make you think |
| 02:02:09 | Bakemono | that's another popular idea within LGME |
| 02:02:09 | CoolMan7 | without the d*** tho |
| 02:02:18 | CoolMan7 | well |
| 02:02:20 | CoolMan7 | check this out |
| 02:02:24 | Bakemono | the d***? |
| 02:02:40 | CoolMan7 | you said darn fun games |
| 02:02:44 | CoolMan7 | ;) |
| 02:02:49 | CoolMan7 | anyway |
| 02:03:00 | Bakemono | oh... |
| 02:03:00 | Bakemono | ok... |
| 02:03:03 | CoolMan7 | i'm kind of a author too |
| 02:03:10 | Bakemono | thanx for bleepin' that out |
| 02:03:27 | Bakemono | we don't fucking like it when people use bad words |
| 02:03:38 | CoolMan7 | and I have some ideas for a non standard RPG |
| 02:03:43 | Bakemono | cool |
| 02:04:00 | CoolMan7 | story-ise anyway |
| 02:04:07 | CoolMan7 | story-waise |
| 02:04:09 | CoolMan7 | wise |
| 02:04:29 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 02:04:41 | CoolMan7 | real-time strat is allways good |
| 02:04:44 | Bakemono | havin' some trouble typing? |
| 02:04:57 | CoolMan7 | yeah |
| 02:04:57 | Bakemono | strat? |
| 02:04:57 | Bakemono | stratocaster? |
| 02:04:58 | Bakemono | mmm...stratocaster... |
| 02:04:59 | CoolMan7 | stratagy |
| 02:05:01 | Bakemono | oh |
| 02:05:21 | CoolMan7 | starcraft, star command, star trek armada |
| 02:05:27 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:05:27 | CoolMan7 | you know |
| 02:05:30 | Bakemono | I know |
| 02:05:37 | CoolMan7 | good games |
| 02:06:02 | CoolMan7 | but, to learn to prog 3d linux games |
| 02:06:09 | CoolMan7 | i will do somthing small first |
| 02:06:24 | CoolMan7 | did you play OpenMAZE? |
| 02:06:40 | Bakemono | no |
| 02:06:41 | Bakemono | I didn't |
| 02:06:53 | Bakemono | VID: Initialized |
| 02:06:53 | Bakemono | SND: Initialized |
| 02:06:54 | Bakemono | RESMAN: Initialized |
| 02:06:54 | Bakemono | The beginning is here!!! |
| 02:06:54 | Bakemono | Drawing Character |
| 02:06:54 | Bakemono | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 02:07:01 | Bakemono | that's the output of my RPG engine |
| 02:07:17 | CoolMan7 | ic |
| 02:07:25 | CoolMan7 | sounds fatal |
| 02:07:34 | Bakemono | : / |
| 02:07:39 | Bakemono | stabs CoolMan7 |
| 02:08:16 | CoolMan7 | so anyway, I'm thinking that i'll write a first-person maze game |
| 02:08:22 | CoolMan7 | (with sweet music) |
| 02:08:28 | Bakemono | maze gmae? |
| 02:08:33 | Bakemono | game* |
| 02:08:42 | CoolMan7 | (oh, that's the other thing i'm good at, music) |
| 02:08:47 | Bakemono | as am I |
| 02:08:48 | CoolMan7 | yeah |
| 02:08:54 | CoolMan7 | like a labyrinth |
| 02:08:59 | Bakemono | busts a funky groove on his bass |
| 02:09:12 | CoolMan7 | how do you do that? |
| 02:10:18 | CoolMan7 | the keyboard is my thing |
| 02:10:21 | Bakemono | I pick up my bass. I put my left index finger on the 5th fret of the 4th string. I slap the 4th string with my right thumb. I place my left ring finger on the.......... |
| 02:10:38 | CoolMan7 | oh, you're funny ar har har |
| 02:10:44 | Bakemono | : P |
| 02:10:48 | CoolMan7 | lol |
| 02:11:01 | Bakemono | I play da bass, da guitar, and da keys |
| 02:11:21 | Bakemono | I prefer a piano to anything electric |
| 02:11:21 | CoolMan7 | brb |
| 02:11:30 | CoolMan7 | i gotta answer the phone |
| 02:11:36 | Bakemono | ok |
| 02:16:19 | CoolMan7 | i'm back |
| 02:16:34 | CoolMan7 | my sister is making cupcakes and she won't let me have one |
| 02:16:49 | Bakemono | : | |
| 02:16:50 | CoolMan7 | :v( |
| 02:16:52 | Bakemono | that sucks |
| 02:16:52 | Bakemono | brb |
| 02:16:55 | CoolMan7 | ok |
| 02:17:46 | CoolMan7 | for when you get back.. |
| 02:18:25 | CoolMan7 | do you know if read hat 7.1 came with all of the stuff to compile the sdl/opengl example 2? |
| 02:19:09 | Bakemono | back |
| 02:19:19 | Bakemono | I wouldn't know... |
| 02:19:28 | CoolMan7 | oh... |
| 02:19:35 | CoolMan7 | what distro do you use? |
| 02:19:40 | Bakemono | slackware |
| 02:19:49 | CoolMan7 | oic |
| 02:19:51 | Bakemono | BAH! |
| 02:19:53 | Bakemono | found my bug |
| 02:19:59 | Bakemono | visual = (Model *)resman_ptr_for_id(character[0]->get_model()); |
| 02:20:12 | Bakemono | character[0] has been created yet! |
| 02:20:16 | CoolMan7 | should be what? |
| 02:20:17 | Bakemono | ;) |
| 02:20:23 | Bakemono | that line if fine |
| 02:20:24 | CoolMan7 | oh duh! |
| 02:20:30 | CoolMan7 | ;v) |
| 02:20:36 | Bakemono | I'll just add a line here... |
| 02:20:40 | CoolMan7 | ;^) |
| 02:20:48 | Bakemono | I like my resource manager |
| 02:20:50 | Bakemono | : ) |
| 02:20:57 | CoolMan7 | well... |
| 02:21:10 | Bakemono | character[0] = new Character; |
| 02:21:11 | Bakemono | just a quick hack |
| 02:21:28 | CoolMan7 | do you know of any good IRC clients for linux? |
| 02:21:34 | Bakemono | bitchx |
| 02:21:35 | CoolMan7 | (I'm in windoze now) |
| 02:21:37 | Bakemono | xchat |
| 02:21:49 | CoolMan7 | binarys? |
| 02:22:04 | Bakemono | source and binaries |
| 02:22:11 | CoolMan7 | sweet |
| 02:22:20 | Bakemono | http://bitchx.org |
| 02:22:25 | Bakemono | I use bitchx |
| 02:22:36 | Bakemono | you might prefer xchat |
| 02:22:45 | CoolMan7 | i was thinking that |
| 02:22:52 | CoolMan7 | do you know the url? |
| 02:22:54 | Bakemono | no |
| 02:22:57 | Bakemono | http://gooogle.com |
| 02:23:00 | Bakemono | google.com |
| 02:23:02 | Bakemono | goooooooooooooogle.com |
| 02:23:12 | CoolMan7 | heck yeah |
| 02:23:16 | CoolMan7 | google rocks |
| 02:23:17 | Bakemono | }8-|:) |
| 02:23:29 | CoolMan7 | i'm gonna brb |
| 02:23:43 | CoolMan7 | no, never mind |
| 02:23:47 | Bakemono | : / |
| 02:25:44 | CoolMan7 | ahha! |
| 02:25:52 | Bakemono | my debug messages are 1337 |
| 02:26:10 | CoolMan7 | sdl does NOT come with redhat 7.1 |
| 02:26:50 | CoolMan7 | which versoin should I go with? |
| 02:26:58 | CoolMan7 | version |
| 02:27:04 | Bakemono | I don't know... |
| 02:27:27 | Bakemono | VID: Initialized |
| 02:27:27 | Bakemono | SND: Initialized |
| 02:27:27 | Bakemono | RESMAN: Initialized |
| 02:27:27 | Bakemono | The beginning is here!!! |
| 02:27:27 | Bakemono | Why did the chicken cross the road? |
| 02:27:28 | Bakemono | Drawing Character |
| 02:27:30 | Bakemono | Look! It's a 3 headed monkey! |
| 02:27:31 | Bakemono | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 02:27:33 | Bakemono | w00t |
| 02:27:40 | CoolMan7 | (version of sdl that is) |
| 02:27:45 | Bakemono | the newest stable version |
| 02:27:45 | Bakemono | 1.2.3? |
| 02:27:49 | Bakemono | : / |
| 02:27:52 | CoolMan7 | ok |
| 02:28:10 | Bakemono | yeah |
| 02:28:11 | Bakemono | 1.2.3 |
| 02:28:26 | Bakemono | brb |
| 02:29:07 | CoolMan7 | ok |
| 02:32:18 | Bakemono | ok |
| 02:32:26 | Bakemono | now my dinner really is done |
| 02:32:30 | Bakemono | I gotta go eat it |
| 02:32:33 | Bakemono | and watch some football |
| 02:32:33 | Bakemono | bbl |
| 02:32:45 | CoolMan7 | bye |
| 02:57:46 | CoolMan7 | Hi i'm back |