| 00:07:18 | | niihau, CoolerQ |
| 00:07:18 | CoolerQ | hi |
| 00:07:18 | CoolerQ | wb |
| 00:07:22 | CoolerQ | huh? |
| 00:07:25 | | hola, Bakemono |
| 00:07:25 | Bakemono | howdy |
| 00:07:33 | Bakemono | niihau |
| 00:07:41 | | that is a "thing" |
| 00:07:41 | CoolerQ | what is that? |
| 00:07:47 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 00:07:49 | Bakemono | shut up ibot |
| 00:07:57 | CoolerQ | what is niihau? |
| 00:08:00 | Bakemono | I think it means hello |
| 00:08:08 | | coolerq: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:08:08 | CoolerQ | ibot, what is niihau? |
| 00:08:12 | CoolerQ | hehe |
| 00:08:39 | CoolerQ | anyway, i think i got another developer interested |
| 00:08:48 | CoolerQ | he said he would be back later i think |
| 00:08:50 | Bakemono | cool |
| 00:08:57 | Bakemono | god I'm tired |
| 00:09:05 | CoolerQ | but he does have win, so not much low-level work |
| 00:09:12 | CoolerQ | he can do GL/SDL stuff |
| 00:09:17 | CoolerQ | why are you tired? |
| 00:09:18 | Bakemono | just got back from a 4 hour long kung fu seminar |
| 00:09:31 | CoolerQ | it's only 5 pm there tho |
| 00:09:42 | CoolerQ | that's what, pacific standard time? |
| 00:09:46 | Bakemono | yes |
| 00:10:24 | CoolerQ | cali? |
| 00:10:52 | CoolerQ | or sonething like oregon or wash |
| 00:12:07 | CoolerQ | ? |
| 00:15:59 | Bakemono | back |
| 00:16:04 | Bakemono | oregon |
| 00:16:43 | CoolerQ | i ordered a sys from a company out there |
| 00:16:53 | CoolerQ | 3d technology |
| 00:16:58 | CoolerQ | ever heard of em? |
| 00:17:11 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:17:12 | Bakemono | ... |
| 00:17:18 | CoolerQ | didn't think so |
| 00:17:26 | Bakemono | really original name... |
| 00:17:31 | CoolerQ | :) |
| 00:17:50 | CoolerQ | you know the little square with the manufacturer's logo that's on just about every case? |
| 00:18:48 | Bakemono | : |
| 00:18:49 | Bakemono | | |
| 00:18:51 | Bakemono | :| |
| 00:18:55 | CoolerQ | 3d's is one of those black-plastic-with-sticky-stuff-on-the-back sqaures and a 3 and a D from the same material, but yellow |
| 00:19:13 | CoolerQ | you can peel off the letters ;) |
| 00:19:40 | Bakemono | : | |
| 00:19:46 | Bakemono | need...food... |
| 00:19:46 | Bakemono | brb |
| 00:19:50 | CoolerQ | k |
| 00:21:21 | Bakemono | back |
| 00:26:58 | Bakemono | hello |
| 00:27:00 | | up yours |
| 00:27:00 | xevol | whats up ? |
| 00:27:15 | Bakemono | lol |
| 00:27:17 | Bakemono | stupid bot |
| 00:28:30 | xevol | I haven't heard about progress with the tuxbox lately ... |
| 00:28:38 | xevol | How's it going ?? |
| 00:28:43 | Bakemono | fine.... |
| 00:29:12 | xevol | Well, last I heard, a lot of stuff was slated for July which has come and gone ... |
| 00:29:48 | Bakemono | : | |
| 00:30:44 | Bakemono | what mad skillz you got? |
| 00:31:26 | xevol | I write libksd, see: http://libksd.sf.net |
| 00:32:18 | Bakemono | cool |
| 00:33:12 | Bakemono | looks nifty |
| 00:33:28 | Bakemono | how much does it do |
| 00:33:29 | xevol | Unforetunately, its not as far as I would like ... Otherwise I would be pushing it on you guys ! :) |
| 00:34:08 | Bakemono | hehe |
| 00:34:14 | xevol | It has a preliminary widget-set, drawing functions, and I just added opengl support over the past week ... |
| 00:34:23 | xevol | oh, yea and audio too |
| 00:34:41 | Bakemono | I'd give you a link... |
| 00:34:44 | Bakemono | but my site is down |
| 00:34:47 | Bakemono | and i'm gonna kill someone |
| 00:34:49 | Bakemono | you!!! |
| 00:34:50 | Bakemono | ahahahaha |
| 00:34:51 | Bakemono | aaahhahahahaha |
| 00:34:59 | Bakemono | anyways |
| 00:35:02 | xevol | a link to what ? |
| 00:35:12 | Bakemono | my open source game development team |
| 00:35:13 | Bakemono | :) |
| 00:36:16 | Bakemono | 'ello? |
| 00:36:28 | xevol | What are you working on now ? |
| 00:36:40 | CoolerQ | ksd looks nice |
| 00:36:44 | CoolerQ | i'm dling it right now |
| 00:37:00 | Bakemono | an rpg engine |
| 00:37:16 | Bakemono | :D |
| 00:37:23 | Bakemono | I'm supa 1337! |
| 00:37:24 | xevol | CoolerQ: Get the CVS! It has some improvements ... |
| 00:37:44 | xevol | Bakemono: What are you basing your RPG engine on ?? X ?? |
| 00:37:49 | Bakemono | mmm...CVS... |
| 00:37:55 | Bakemono | xevol: SDL |
| 00:37:57 | CoolerQ | xevol: can you give me the tarball link? |
| 00:37:58 | Bakemono | oh wait |
| 00:37:58 | Bakemono | no |
| 00:37:59 | Bakemono | open gl |
| 00:38:01 | Bakemono | and open al |
| 00:38:03 | CoolerQ | it's on the admin page, so i can't get it |
| 00:38:10 | CoolerQ | but if you give me the link, i can dl it |
| 00:38:13 | Bakemono | I decided to switch over to 3D |
| 00:38:31 | xevol | Bakemono: Is it in C ? |
| 00:38:35 | Bakemono | C++ |
| 00:39:03 | Tyran | Hey. |
| 00:39:07 | Bakemono | yo yo |
| 00:39:11 | Bakemono | it's a party in here! |
| 00:39:19 | xevol | Ya, know I can think of other good projects written in C++ ... <<wink>> <<wink>> |
| 00:39:50 | Bakemono | : / |
| 00:39:57 | CoolerQ | hi Tyran |
| 00:40:01 | xevol | CoolerQ: admin page? |
| 00:40:03 | | up yours |
| 00:40:03 | Tyran | What's up? |
| 00:40:06 | CoolerQ | xevol: ya, on sf |
| 00:40:08 | Bakemono | ahaha |
| 00:40:18 | Bakemono | everyone gets dissed by ibot |
| 00:40:18 | CoolerQ | xevol: i think on the right side, it says "cvs nightly tarball" |
| 00:40:21 | | Sorry, Bakemono, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 00:40:21 | Bakemono | ibot: shut up |
| 00:40:24 | | no shut *your* fscking mouth up! |
| 00:40:24 | Bakemono | ibot: shut up!!!!! |
| 00:40:28 | Bakemono | !!1\ |
| 00:40:31 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 00:40:37 | Bakemono | not sure how that \ got in there... |
| 00:40:50 | xevol | CoolerQ: don't go for nightly I just added some good changes in last coouple of minutes !! Just use the CVS client ... |
| 00:41:34 | Bakemono | hmm |
| 00:41:41 | Bakemono | don't remember what the command syntax is... |
| 00:41:43 | CoolerQ | cvs doesn't work for me |
| 00:41:54 | xevol | CoolerQ: a firewall thing ?? |
| 00:41:54 | Bakemono | cvs -d :pserver:somethinsomething: login |
| 00:42:00 | CoolerQ | maybe you could tarball your dev directory? |
| 00:42:03 | Bakemono | cvs -d :pserver:somethinsomething: -z3 co libksd |
| 00:42:19 | Bakemono | I gotta eat some food |
| 00:42:32 | CoolerQ | my isp is fscked up |
| 00:42:36 | Bakemono | and watch the second half of braveheart |
| 00:42:38 | CoolerQ | cvs times out after a few seconds |
| 00:42:45 | xevol | ummm. sure, I'll make a dist ... |
| 00:42:56 | Bakemono | so, I'll be back later |
| 00:43:26 | CoolerQ | ttyl, Bakemo |
| 00:43:31 | Bakemono|Food | yeah |
| 00:43:33 | Bakemono|Food | peace |
| 00:43:57 | CoolerQ | "live long and prosper", Bakemono|Food |
| 00:46:23 | xevol | I made a little pre-release distro for ya' if you'll just accept the DCC |
| 00:46:59 | CoolerQ | i dunno if the dcc will work :\ |
| 00:47:05 | CoolerQ | it usually times out too |
| 00:47:12 | CoolerQ | but let's hope it works |
| 00:49:03 | xevol | well, if it doesn't work just wait until tommarrow and download the nightly CVS tarball ... |
| 00:49:28 | xevol | but i got to go ... i'll leave my machine running so you can get the dcc ... |
| 00:49:39 | CoolerQ | maybe you could ftp it to me |
| 00:49:45 | CoolerQ | but ok |
| 00:50:04 | xevol|away | if you still can't get it, e-mail me ... its on the website |
| 00:50:35 | Bakemono|Food | quick |
| 00:50:37 | Bakemono|Food | dcc it to me |
| 00:51:05 | Bakemono|Food | or not... |
| 00:51:25 | Bakemono|Food | I'm only gonna be here for another 30 seconds or so |
| 00:51:31 | Bakemono|Food | then I'm really outa here... |
| 00:51:40 | Bakemono|Food | oh well... |
| 07:13:26 | ComWizz | hi all, |
| 07:20:14 | Snake | hello |
| 07:20:49 | RobSteele | hey |
| 07:25:27 | RobSteele | i guess no one is here. |
| 07:25:34 | Snake | yeah |
| 07:26:02 | RobSteele | Ill come back at a better time. |
| 07:26:15 | RobSteele | hey |
| 07:26:19 | BrightBlade | hi |
| 07:26:32 | Snake | hello\ |
| 07:26:44 | BrightBlade | hows it going? |
| 07:27:00 | Snake | good and u? |
| 07:27:06 | RobSteele | pretty good |
| 07:27:35 | BrightBlade | pretty good, though I'm kinda disappointed |
| 07:27:41 | RobSteele | why |
| 07:28:16 | BrightBlade | oh what travis said acouple days ago |
| 07:28:26 | BrightBlade | "It is just a system for developers to have fun with, make their own games, be proud of them. Maybe even write in a resume that you created "this game" and to check it out. " |
| 07:28:37 | RobSteele | thats good |
| 07:28:54 | BrightBlade | well i thought tuxbox was going to be a serious system |
| 07:29:05 | RobSteele | lol i think the 9 people in here are the only ones who are gonna buy it. |
| 07:29:23 | RobSteele | TuxBox is pretty much for us hardcore gamers, it will have no appeal to casual gamers |
| 07:29:37 | BrightBlade | well if they were serious and did some major stuff you could do it |
| 07:30:00 | RobSteele | I dont know, going up against Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony. |
| 07:30:06 | RobSteele | There position is good. |
| 07:30:11 | BrightBlade | but costly |
| 07:30:25 | RobSteele | Yea which is something they dont have, Funding. |
| 07:30:41 | RobSteele | Which is why Indrema failed, but I hope tuxbox actually is completed. |
| 07:30:42 | BrightBlade | what was that other open source system |
| 07:30:55 | BrightBlade | nm |
| 07:31:16 | BrightBlade | you just said the name it was like at the tip of my tongue |
| 07:31:18 | RobSteele | Indrema was looking incredible, I was quite excited for it. |
| 07:31:25 | BrightBlade | yeah |
| 07:31:38 | RobSteele | It even got nice coverage in NextGen magazine. |
| 07:31:48 | BrightBlade | yeap i get that magazine too :) |
| 07:32:16 | RobSteele | I wonder if there are any other projects similiar to TuxBox. |
| 07:32:39 | BrightBlade | i know nextgen mentioned Tuxbox |
| 07:32:47 | RobSteele | I remember finding one called the Reaction system but that now seems to be defunct. |
| 07:32:56 | RobSteele | yea nextgen mentioned them |
| 07:33:08 | BrightBlade | which is how i found tuxbox |
| 07:33:10 | BrightBlade | thx to nextgen |
| 07:33:10 | RobSteele | they said there is always another company out there in case indrema doesnt follow thru. |
| 07:33:36 | RobSteele | I just feel this project wont be completed, I hope it is but who knows. |
| 07:34:00 | BrightBlade | well the problem is |
| 07:34:06 | BrightBlade | the developers seem really busy |
| 07:34:11 | BrightBlade | and don't have the time to do it so it seems |
| 07:34:14 | RobSteele | yea |
| 07:34:29 | RobSteele | which is why by the time it is completed, if ever, the next playstation will be out. |
| 07:34:39 | Beta | where can I compare the Xbox to the Tuxbox hardware wise |
| 07:34:48 | RobSteele | i dont know of any place |
| 07:34:56 | RobSteele | the tuxbox isnt too well known |
| 07:35:08 | BrightBlade | well tuxbox's development machine |
| 07:35:13 | BrightBlade | uses a duron |
| 07:35:15 | RobSteele | i doubt more than 1,000 people know about it and thats stretching it. |
| 07:35:20 | BrightBlade | not sure what speed |
| 07:35:28 | RobSteele | i believe 600 last time i read |
| 07:35:49 | RobSteele | also if they do sell them, how will they make profit |
| 07:35:50 | Beta | I heard 75o MHz |
| 07:36:11 | Snake | yup |
| 07:36:11 | RobSteele | some of these features are quite extravagant. |
| 07:36:13 | Snake | 750mhz |
| 07:36:21 | Snake | im on the dev team :) |
| 07:36:27 | RobSteele | thats awesome. |
| 07:36:28 | Snake | i designed to tuxbox case |
| 07:36:32 | BrightBlade | ah |
| 07:36:34 | Beta | it's a matter of stratagy make the gamers think it's gong to be popular and they'll buy it |
| 07:36:39 | RobSteele | Really, any photos. |
| 07:36:40 | BrightBlade | got any sneak peaks for us?? |
| 07:36:50 | Snake | no photos |
| 07:36:52 | Snake | but designes |
| 07:36:57 | RobSteele | its not in a suitcase right, lol. |
| 07:37:01 | Snake | no |
| 07:37:03 | Snake | lo |
| 07:37:05 | Snake | lol |
| 07:37:08 | RobSteele | I remember this projoect called Bluebox and the case was a suitcase. |
| 07:37:11 | RobSteele | painted blue. |
| 07:37:17 | Snake | lol |
| 07:37:19 | Snake | lame |
| 07:37:32 | RobSteele | What about the controllers, what will you guys use. |
| 07:37:43 | BrightBlade | are the os developers working on anything? |
| 07:37:53 | Snake | not sure |
| 07:37:54 | Beta | do you think this'll take off and be considered a gaming plantform by the gamers? |
| 07:38:00 | Snake | the one i know isnt here right now |
| 07:38:10 | Snake | we havent chosen a controller yet |
| 07:38:11 | RobSteele | Well first, get me to be the webmaster and make the site look good for those casual gamers that are possessed by eye candy. |
| 07:38:16 | Snake | but we are open for suggestions |
| 07:38:35 | Beta | I gave my suggestion last night ;-) |
| 07:38:45 | RobSteele | You need a lot of eye candy for those casual gamers. |
| 07:38:57 | Snake | yes the site is a bit crusty looking |
| 07:38:58 | BrightBlade | i can make any scripts you need for the website |
| 07:38:59 | RobSteele | TO convince them that the TuxBox is the next BIG thing. |
| 07:39:03 | Snake | but we are working on it |
| 07:39:13 | BrightBlade | hey rob |
| 07:39:19 | RobSteele | hey |
| 07:39:25 | BrightBlade | i have been thinking about making a develop site for tuxbox |
| 07:39:27 | Snake | we have a professional web designer on it |
| 07:39:31 | BrightBlade | a seperate site |
| 07:39:46 | Snake | and im on a team working on a realease game |
| 07:39:50 | Snake | release* |
| 07:39:56 | RobSteele | I might make one. Who knows, the developers might like the layout and want it for theirs. |
| 07:39:57 | BrightBlade | maybe have like interviews and tutorials |
| 07:39:59 | Beta | snake did you discuss my idea with the leader of the project? |
| 07:40:15 | Snake | nope |
| 07:40:23 | Snake | he hasent been on irc for months |
| 07:40:31 | Beta | oh |
| 07:40:33 | RobSteele | go to x-squad.cjb.net one of the sites im currently working on in early stages |
| 07:40:37 | Snake | i cant even remember it |
| 07:40:38 | BrightBlade | though i'm none too good at graphics :( |
| 07:41:01 | Snake | i can do graphics |
| 07:41:02 | Snake | sort of |
| 07:41:11 | Snake | i designed the tanks on herzog zwei 2 |
| 07:41:14 | RobSteele | im very good at graphics, no very experience yet at html, java, cgi etc. still learning a lot everyday. |
| 07:41:20 | Snake | which is still in development |
| 07:41:23 | BrightBlade | never heard of it |
| 07:41:24 | RobSteele | not much* |
| 07:41:40 | Snake | im learning php |
| 07:41:46 | RobSteele | all i know with zwei is panzer dragoon zwei lol |
| 07:41:49 | BrightBlade | nice job rob |
| 07:42:02 | RobSteele | thanks :) ive been getting a lot of nice feedback. |
| 07:42:41 | BrightBlade | though your host is ^^ |
| 07:42:53 | RobSteele | yea i know |
| 07:43:11 | Snake | tuxbox is a slow project at the mo, nearly died |
| 07:43:12 | RobSteele | im getting a .com for it once it is availible |
| 07:43:16 | RobSteele | in march 2002 |
| 07:43:21 | Snake | but theres been a lot of backround work |
| 07:43:29 | RobSteele | yea i thought tuxbox was finished. |
| 07:43:35 | RobSteele | meaning gone. |
| 07:43:36 | Snake | no way |
| 07:43:39 | Snake | still ages ot go |
| 07:43:39 | BrightBlade | does your website need to have any d/led files? |
| 07:43:42 | Snake | 2 years maybe |
| 07:43:47 | Snake | mayybe longer |
| 07:43:54 | RobSteele | damn 2 years, wow ps3 will be out :) |
| 07:44:03 | Snake | not likely |
| 07:44:09 | BrightBlade | well at the pace the developers are going ^^ |
| 07:44:14 | Beta | what about the ps3? |
| 07:44:27 | Snake | the ps3 has amazing techonolgy |
| 07:44:30 | RobSteele | Go to gamespot.com , Sony is working hard already on ps3. |
| 07:44:43 | Snake | it uses a similar chip to the deepblue computer |
| 07:44:56 | RobSteele | They said that they see Microsoft as a competitor andif the PS2 happens to fail, they will be prepared with PS3. |
| 07:44:58 | Beta | wow sony is greedy can't they wait until the ps2 sales die down a bit? lol |
| 07:45:26 | RobSteele | Yea, but XBOX is quite impressive, so is Gamecube. |
| 07:45:30 | RobSteele | Theyre all cool, LOL. |
| 07:45:33 | RobSteele | So many games. |
| 07:45:43 | Snake | the gaming industry is my piece of pie |
| 07:45:53 | Beta | game cube can't play dvd's and that's what is going to hurt sales for nintendo |
| 07:46:03 | RobSteele | Thats the whole point. |
| 07:46:17 | RobSteele | Gamecube is a gaming machine. |
| 07:46:22 | Snake | nintendo can go bite my fucking ass |
| 07:46:22 | BrightBlade | but for x-box you have to buy something special to play dvd movies |
| 07:46:26 | Snake | they are doing well |
| 07:46:29 | Snake | but nintendo |
| 07:46:32 | Snake | is going down |
| 07:46:41 | RobSteele | Nintendo isnt going anywhere. |
| 07:46:42 | Beta | yeah so is Xbox and PS2 but hey want to get a a 2 for 1 sale going lol |
| 07:46:50 | Snake | nintendo cant offer what the gaming industry needs |
| 07:47:03 | RobSteele | Nintendo's gamecube is quite impressive. I own that piece of hardware along with XBOX and PS2. |
| 07:47:12 | RobSteele | Nintendo offers the best games out there. |
| 07:47:18 | Beta | it's a shame nintendo is what I grew up with I even have the orginal NES |
| 07:47:22 | RobSteele | Not a dvd player, if you want a dvd player go buy a dvd player. |
| 07:47:55 | RobSteele | I own an XBOX and PS2, I bought for one purpose. The games only. The dvd features will never be used. |
| 07:48:07 | Beta | OMG |
| 07:48:14 | Snake | yeah the dvd player on ps2 can onyl support zone 4 dvds |
| 07:48:23 | Beta | I want iether and Xbox or PS2 for both features |
| 07:48:40 | RobSteele | I have an excellent DVD player for my DVD needs. |
| 07:49:08 | Snake | brb |
| 07:49:17 | RobSteele | Beta i recommend you dont buy an XBOX or PS2 for the dvd capabilities. |
| 07:49:19 | Beta | do you guys know if Xbox games will work on a regular PC because the Xbox uses windows I think and it run on an X86 CPU |
| 07:49:29 | RobSteele | Youre better off picking up a standalone dvd player. |
| 07:49:35 | RobSteele | lol no |
| 07:49:35 | BrightBlade | it uses a special version of windows 2000 i hear |
| 07:49:38 | RobSteele | the XBOX is a console. |
| 07:49:52 | BrightBlade | dreamcast used windows ce |
| 07:49:53 | Beta | what's the problem with dual purpose gaming consoles? |
| 07:50:11 | Beta | I'm using win2000 hehe |
| 07:50:21 | RobSteele | There isnt any, but people that buy a PS2 or XBOX for the DVD player only are in need of some help. |
| 07:50:49 | BrightBlade | thats a expesive dvd player considering they don't make good dvd players |
| 07:50:50 | Snake|website | well i ps2 dvd player is better then no dvd player |
| 07:50:54 | Beta | lol yeah I plan on using it for it's full capability |
| 07:51:59 | RobSteele | I hope TuxBox lives up to all its features, I would fund this project If only I had a few million dollars. |
| 07:52:13 | Snake|website | the tuxbox wont take the market buy storm |
| 07:52:18 | Snake|website | by* |
| 07:52:23 | Snake|website | it wont have a chance |
| 07:52:24 | RobSteele | well obviously. |
| 07:52:27 | BrightBlade | well its cheap, just everyone works for free, so then your costs are much lower |
| 07:52:35 | Snake|website | it wasent designed ot take on ps2 and xbox |
| 07:52:52 | Snake|website | buts its good to have at least one open source console |
| 07:53:02 | RobSteele | Yes, too bad indrema was never a reality. |
| 07:53:09 | RobSteele | Now theres something that was looking good. |
| 07:53:18 | Beta | :-) I'll make my own gaming console and call it the computer it'll run windows XP, I'm a lazy man I'm not going to try fixing a system just for gaming lol |
| 07:53:20 | BrightBlade | not much of anything if everyone is as discouraging about it as you are though |
| 07:53:51 | BrightBlade | you guys think big businesses just pop out of no where? |
| 07:53:52 | RobSteele | How am I discouraging this project? |
| 07:53:55 | BrightBlade | it takes lots of work? |
| 07:54:24 | BrightBlade | not you, the developers, |
| 07:55:05 | RobSteele | I really want the project to go through, but at this pace, it will be a matter of years before it is done. |
| 07:55:23 | BrightBlade | because the developers are too busy, and aren't getting new help |
| 07:55:27 | BrightBlade | which is what they need to do |
| 07:55:30 | Snake|website | i will design a gaming console one day |
| 07:55:41 | RobSteele | TuxBox needs funding, thats all it is. |
| 07:55:43 | Beta | oh I was hoping to play with it next year :-) |
| 07:56:09 | Snake|website | the ruxbox is a beautiful looking console |
| 07:56:16 | BrightBlade | ruxbox? |
| 07:56:23 | Snake|website | if it was a person i would marry it |
| 07:56:26 | Snake|website | sorry |
| 07:56:27 | Snake|website | xbox* |
| 07:56:38 | BrightBlade | hey snake scan some of your designs in so we can see them |
| 07:56:41 | RobSteele | I own an XBOX and I am impressed. |
| 07:56:52 | Beta | when advertising tuxbox I think you should mentio no linux/unix knowlegde required |
| 07:56:55 | Snake|website | i dont have a scanner |
| 07:56:57 | Snake|website | but |
| 07:57:02 | BrightBlade | doh |
| 07:57:05 | Snake|website | i do all my designs on the computer :) |
| 07:57:11 | Snake|website | in mspaint |
| 07:57:13 | Snake|website | lol |
| 07:57:13 | RobSteele | Awesome, let us see some. |
| 07:57:14 | BrightBlade | do you need somewhere to upload them? |
| 07:57:18 | RobSteele | lol |
| 07:57:20 | BrightBlade | i have my own website |
| 07:57:26 | Snake|website | thats would be nice |
| 07:57:29 | RobSteele | I used to draw consoles during class for fun. |
| 07:57:33 | BrightBlade | i can make a ftp account for you |
| 07:57:39 | Snake|website | kool |
| 07:57:53 | BrightBlade | give me a sec |
| 07:58:29 | RobSteele | If I get hired by a big name or profitable company, I am convincing them to create a Console. |
| 07:58:37 | BrightBlade | lol |
| 07:58:46 | RobSteele | Hey thats how it all started with the XBOX. |
| 07:59:27 | Snake|website | i want to convince duron to enter the game market |
| 07:59:31 | Snake|website | i meen |
| 07:59:33 | Snake|website | AMD |
| 07:59:43 | RobSteele | You know if only Square had more money (why did they make that horrid movie) Square can easily ditch all the companies and make their own platoform. |
| 07:59:55 | RobSteele | Now im not a big fan of Square but man the casual gamers would flock to them. |
| 08:00:24 | RobSteele | Square and EA are also tight. So imagine. Square games and Electronic Art games on their own personal console. |
| 08:00:32 | RobSteele | The casual gamers would just flock. |
| 08:01:18 | RobSteele | Square publishes EAs games in Japan and EA publishes Square games in US. In case no one knew. |
| 08:01:24 | Snake|website | brb |
| 08:01:27 | RobSteele | k |
| 08:01:37 | Beta | there should be standardization in the markets, Mario bros. could run on Xbox and PS2 np |
| 08:01:55 | RobSteele | I believe there will be a time that it will happen. |
| 08:02:16 | RobSteele | There will be one static type of gaming technology and many companies make their own setups. |
| 08:02:25 | RobSteele | Like dvd players, vcrs etc. |
| 08:02:26 | Beta | cool because I hate having to choose between the consoles |
| 08:02:44 | BrightBlade | is there a way to whisper in irc? |
| 08:02:56 | RobSteele | I dont know, Im a farely new user. |
| 08:03:08 | BrightBlade | same |
| 08:03:13 | Beta | in mIRC you double click the name of the person you want to whisper |
| 08:03:23 | BrightBlade | k thx but snake left :o |
| 08:03:32 | RobSteele | Square would call their console... The Yes we are the makers of the Final Fantasy movie that flopped and lost us lots of money BOX. |
| 08:03:33 | BrightBlade | cuz i set up a ftp for him to upload his pics |
| 08:04:03 | Beta | why don't we try to create standardization in the market it has to start somewhere |
| 08:04:20 | RobSteele | I would do it, but we need funding. |
| 08:04:31 | RobSteele | Maybe we can convince a big name company, lol. |
| 08:04:40 | BrightBlade | well |
| 08:04:46 | BrightBlade | we have the developments machines |
| 08:04:50 | BrightBlade | if we made a product |
| 08:04:54 | BrightBlade | it wouldn't be hard to get funding |
| 08:04:58 | BrightBlade | but no product |
| 08:05:02 | BrightBlade | who would fund it |
| 08:05:03 | RobSteele | Yea, but look at Indrema. |
| 08:05:35 | RobSteele | Indrema had aproduct, and no funding. |
| 08:05:50 | BrightBlade | actually they had lots of funding in the beginning but that dried up later on |
| 08:06:23 | Beta | maybe not first we must try getting in contact with Sony or Microsoft since they are the big movers in this game and ask permition for compatiblity now it would most likely be close source but you mght be able to help sony make PS3 gaming code open source |
| 08:06:26 | Beta | brb |
| 08:06:52 | RobSteele | IBM would do well in the console business. |
| 08:06:57 | BrightBlade | well personally i think open source needs alot of help |
| 08:07:04 | BrightBlade | because its so disorganized it seems |
| 08:07:04 | RobSteele | Hell a lot of IBMs technology is used in consoles. |
| 08:07:32 | RobSteele | IBMs technology is also good and damn small. the console would end up being so nice and compact. |
| 08:08:24 | BrightBlade | ibm might support it because its againist microsoft pretty much and they help alot with open source |
| 08:08:40 | RobSteele | Yea, and they are quite familiar with consoles. |
| 08:08:56 | RobSteele | IBM is helping Sony make PS3. |
| 08:09:03 | RobSteele | IBM technology is used in gamecube. |
| 08:09:12 | BrightBlade | ibm produces gamecube's processor |
| 08:09:17 | Beta | not really you make the code sign the GNU licence or some other licence or even make your own if the other doesn't strike you well and it's out and open to the public |
| 08:09:40 | BrightBlade | well look at open source games |
| 08:09:47 | RobSteele | There will never be a static type of technology for videogames. |
| 08:09:55 | BrightBlade | most don't even get very far because everyone spreads out |
| 08:10:16 | BrightBlade | like for tuxbox basically they should try and get people not to make what they want |
| 08:10:29 | BrightBlade | but to help on projects alrdy going |
| 08:10:38 | BrightBlade | then games get more done |
| 08:10:41 | Beta | static no but if you choose to side with one console then 2 consloe will support the same technology and both will be more popular then the competition |
| 08:10:42 | BrightBlade | and actually get somewhere |
| 08:10:54 | BrightBlade | ? |
| 08:10:55 | RobSteele | it will never happen though. |
| 08:11:16 | Beta | and worry about the next technology when you catch wind of it |
| 08:11:19 | BrightBlade | well thats one thing I wanted to do if I made a developers site for tuxbox |
| 08:11:19 | RobSteele | Are there any games for TuxBox. |
| 08:11:33 | BrightBlade | is have a developers list who are developeing games |
| 08:11:38 | RobSteele | I mean I feel nothing is progressing with TuxBox. |
| 08:11:42 | BrightBlade | and really encourage others to help |
| 08:11:55 | BrightBlade | nothing is being done |
| 08:11:56 | RobSteele | Yea at least Indrema has this whole website devoted to developers. |
| 08:12:05 | RobSteele | had* lol. |
| 08:12:23 | BrightBlade | well maybe someone needs to kick the current makers of tuxbox and get a new bunch |
| 08:12:27 | BrightBlade | because they aren't donig anything |
| 08:12:46 | RobSteele | I think they need to be more serious about this. If they were they would be devoted to it and work harder on it. |
| 08:12:52 | RobSteele | But then again Im sure its not easy. |
| 08:12:53 | BrightBlade | i offered to help with their webpage, I gave them samples of my works but they just said no thanks to me :( |
| 08:13:11 | RobSteele | Yea I dont understand, they ask for help yet dont take it. |
| 08:13:16 | Beta | there are 2 reason why tuxbox is moving slowly and may never catch on , 1. almost no one has heard of it 2. you have no contacts in the gaming world if you could get a few game makers to make games for you consloe then I think tux box may work |
| 08:13:32 | BrightBlade | 3. no development by the creators |
| 08:13:41 | Beta | ok that too lol |
| 08:13:51 | RobSteele | Yea lol if some miracle happened and EA and Square decided to make games only for TuxBox then all the casual games would flock to TuxBOx. |
| 08:13:53 | BrightBlade | heck that should be 1. because thats most important |
| 08:14:26 | RobSteele | Microsoft did the smart thing they signed popular PC developers for XBOX. |
| 08:14:37 | RobSteele | Nintendo has their first/2nd parties. |
| 08:14:42 | RobSteele | Sony has everyone lol. |
| 08:14:48 | BrightBlade | well they have tons of money to throw around |
| 08:15:02 | BrightBlade | there are tons of open source projects you can port to tuxbox |
| 08:15:05 | RobSteele | Right which Is why tuxbox will never be a reality. |
| 08:15:18 | BrightBlade | well tuxbox can alrdy have a nice browser |
| 08:15:19 | RobSteele | They need some type of funding. |
| 08:15:32 | RobSteele | brb |
| 08:15:34 | Beta | if EA made a game for your system would thier game have to be open source? |
| 08:15:45 | BrightBlade | our system? |
| 08:15:50 | BrightBlade | its not my system |
| 08:15:51 | Beta | tuxbox |
| 08:15:57 | BrightBlade | no |
| 08:16:07 | BrightBlade | you chose whether you want it to be or not i would think |
| 08:16:53 | BrightBlade | ok so lets talk about whats needed to make a system |
| 08:17:04 | BrightBlade | first and formost, dedication |
| 08:17:24 | BrightBlade | tied with first, is a idea |
| 08:17:42 | Beta | ok, you can try getting the game makers making games but the only thing I can think of is say you can't pay them for it but they could make the profits from the game sales and give them an FAQ like the question I just game you |
| 08:18:04 | RobSteele | back |
| 08:18:21 | Beta | and give out the gaming code to linux programming now! have them get started ASAP |
| 08:18:47 | RobSteele | well if the games were open source then there would be no point of making the game. they might ad well give out their code for free and let others make better stuff. |
| 08:18:56 | RobSteele | Thats why open source for consoles isnt good. |
| 08:19:28 | BrightBlade | well what I think they should do is |
| 08:19:29 | Beta | I mean the way to make the game for the tuxbox not the source code for a game |
| 08:19:43 | BrightBlade | let companies make their games, and they choose whether its open source or not |
| 08:19:56 | RobSteele | See the prob with TuxBox is if they had a huge following then maybe a big company would recognize them. |
| 08:20:11 | BrightBlade | thats why I said you need dedication |
| 08:20:22 | RobSteele | But 8 people talking on irc is not a following lol |
| 08:20:25 | RobSteele | its more like a cult. |
| 08:20:29 | BrightBlade | lets be honest, the developers don't seem dedicated |
| 08:20:35 | BrightBlade | well no one is getting the word out |
| 08:20:36 | RobSteele | no they dont. |
| 08:20:41 | CoolerQ_quasi_sleep | maybe we could get vmware to automatically load windows games :) |
| 08:21:01 | BrightBlade | if things were REALLY being done then i think it would have a good chance |
| 08:21:05 | BrightBlade | but nothing is being done |
| 08:21:14 | CoolerQ_quasi_sleep | and we could get excalibur to run virtual game station to run psx games |
| 08:21:15 | Beta | why not try to take off from where they left off? |
| 08:21:22 | BrightBlade | you can't |
| 08:21:25 | RobSteele | See this is what Ive always dreamt of. I love PC games but never play them because I hate gaming on a pc. |
| 08:21:29 | BrightBlade | without their permission |
| 08:21:32 | Beta | damnit it's open source hehe |
| 08:21:35 | RobSteele | I wish there was a console that booted PC games from the start |
| 08:21:39 | BrightBlade | not the ststem itself |
| 08:21:47 | Beta | lol |
| 08:21:57 | RobSteele | I hate all the bs installing crap. |
| 08:21:58 | BrightBlade | well actually |
| 08:22:00 | BrightBlade | they don't have a ststem |
| 08:22:05 | CoolerQ_quasi_sleep | that's what i just suggested > RobSteele |
| 08:22:27 | RobSteele | They should make it based on windows architecture so it could load windows games |
| 08:22:41 | BrightBlade | and have to pay microsoft |
| 08:22:45 | RobSteele | and all they need to do is make it install once the game is put in and then anytime after it would just load. |
| 08:23:09 | RobSteele | hey its a dream i always had that will never happen./ |
| 08:23:17 | CoolerQ_quasi_sleep | am i INVISIBLE or something? |
| 08:23:20 | Beta | well what is it really? a computer probably no custom made video car like Xbox so it's just a computer then there is DVD play back, case, game designing code, and of course OS I think reactos would be good |
| 08:23:27 | BrightBlade | its possible |
| 08:23:49 | BrightBlade | nintendo has their own system software |
| 08:23:55 | RobSteele | there was another linux console project but that flopped. |
| 08:24:16 | Beta | reactos is windows based so it might be Xbox compatible |
| 08:24:25 | Beta | NT |
| 08:24:28 | RobSteele | xbox compatible? |
| 08:24:32 | RobSteele | xbox runs its own games. |
| 08:24:35 | RobSteele | it is not a pc. |
| 08:24:40 | BrightBlade | but in the background |
| 08:24:41 | RobSteele | it is compatible with xbox and only xbox. |
| 08:24:47 | BrightBlade | its running a custom version of win 2000 |
| 08:24:49 | RobSteele | thats what a console is. |
| 08:24:55 | Beta | Xbox runs on a X86 CPU and has windows as it's OS |
| 08:25:00 | BrightBlade | with all the bells and whistles taken out |
| 08:25:02 | RobSteele | I wish the developers updated more often. |
| 08:25:12 | BrightBlade | tuxbox doesn't have any developers |
| 08:25:21 | BrightBlade | or so it seems |
| 08:25:25 | RobSteele | The developers should just announce that the project is dead. |
| 08:25:36 | Beta | why not team up with reactos they are active |
| 08:25:44 | RobSteele | instead of making 7 people come to a irc chat lol. |
| 08:25:54 | RobSteele | i bet us 7 people will be the only ones who buy it. |
| 08:25:55 | BrightBlade | well i would prefer tuxbox developers post everything they have etc |
| 08:26:10 | BrightBlade | then people can do something |
| 08:26:13 | BrightBlade | and submit it to them |
| 08:26:17 | RobSteele | all i have seen of the tuxbox was pc parts lying on a pc case. |
| 08:26:25 | Beta | and we'd need the hardware design stuff and create a gaming design or sync up with PS2 or Xbox and we'd be good to go |
| 08:26:30 | RobSteele | which i can make right now. |
| 08:27:07 | BrightBlade | i can't |
| 08:27:15 | CoolerQ | RobSteele: umm, actually, it's all 5 of us |
| 08:27:18 | BrightBlade | i don't have those parts laying aroud |
| 08:27:26 | RobSteele | yea the travis doesnt count |
| 08:27:28 | CoolerQ | RobSteele: ibot isn't real, and travis is logged in twice |
| 08:27:28 | RobSteele | lol |
| 08:27:37 | RobSteele | 5 supporters |
| 08:27:39 | RobSteele | lol |
| 08:27:40 | RobSteele | lol |
| 08:27:46 | CoolerQ | actually 6 |
| 08:27:53 | CoolerQ | i know someone else who wants to help |
| 08:28:05 | RobSteele | we all want to help but they dont want our help. |
| 08:28:12 | CoolerQ | who doesn't? |
| 08:28:13 | BrightBlade | if things were being done i could get a bunch to help |
| 08:28:34 | CoolerQ | things ARE being done |
| 08:28:45 | CoolerQ | you know that hardware lying on a pc case? |
| 08:28:46 | BrightBlade | like? |
| 08:28:48 | RobSteele | i dont see any progress. |
| 08:28:56 | Beta | look the number doesn't matter the fact people are does what do you guys say about making a new console and let tuxbox go under? |
| 08:29:00 | CoolerQ | can you say "sourceforge"? |
| 08:29:14 | BrightBlade | i have yet to see the tuxbox project there |
| 08:29:28 | RobSteele | that hardware lying on the case, i could make that right now. |
| 08:29:32 | BrightBlade | do you know anything about hardware? |
| 08:29:40 | BrightBlade | i'm all software sorry |
| 08:29:47 | BrightBlade | i can make a computer sure |
| 08:29:50 | BrightBlade | but design a console |
| 08:29:53 | Beta | I'm a beta tester I deal mostly with software |
| 08:30:12 | RobSteele | yea but all that photo shows is pc hardware lying on the side of a computer tower |
| 08:30:18 | BrightBlade | you need some computer engineering majors |
| 08:30:29 | BrightBlade | which we can reproduce |
| 08:30:31 | BrightBlade | just get parts |
| 08:30:33 | BrightBlade | put next to tower |
| 08:30:35 | BrightBlade | take picture |
| 08:30:42 | RobSteele | thats what im trying to say. |
| 08:30:54 | RobSteele | i havent seen anything yet that proves something is being made that LOOKS like a console. |
| 08:30:54 | Beta | all we need to do is get a 1ghz computer and star game designing |
| 08:31:14 | BrightBlade | aren't those pictures liek 5 months old? |
| 08:31:17 | RobSteele | im convinced the TuxBox should be the PCBox. |
| 08:31:33 | BrightBlade | well you see |
| 08:31:41 | RobSteele | yea and that proves that nothing is being done. |
| 08:31:43 | BrightBlade | they are changing the linux |
| 08:31:50 | BrightBlade | to autoload the cds in the drive |
| 08:31:58 | BrightBlade | and work from controller not keyboard |
| 08:32:03 | RobSteele | yea i know |
| 08:32:05 | BrightBlade | so it won't work like a computer |
| 08:32:19 | RobSteele | its a joke, right now it looks like a Pc. |
| 08:32:20 | BrightBlade | well i THINK they are doing that, i can't be sure |
| 08:32:30 | RobSteele | from that old outdated photo it looks like a PC. |
| 08:32:32 | BrightBlade | well you gotta start from somewhere |
| 08:32:44 | RobSteele | so its been a while wheres the updates. |
| 08:32:45 | Beta | I talked to the guys at reactos and they hope to have an interactive GUI by Summer 2002 |
| 08:32:57 | BrightBlade | just i think they lost focus |
| 08:33:02 | BrightBlade | and pretty much have given up |
| 08:33:15 | RobSteele | Instead they post crap about tuxbox shirts, who the f*ck is gonna buy tuxbox shirts. |
| 08:33:27 | RobSteele | They have lost a lot of focus. |
| 08:33:35 | Beta | new project, new vision, new OS, Reactos, the new start |
| 08:33:49 | BrightBlade | whats the url beta |
| 08:33:57 | RobSteele | the makers of reactos should just pick up where tuxbox left off. |
| 08:34:02 | Beta | http://www.reactos.com |
| 08:34:33 | BrightBlade | much better website ^^ |
| 08:34:35 | Beta | reactos is just an OS to replace windows NT it's open source |
| 08:34:53 | BrightBlade | its not a gaming system? |
| 08:34:54 | RobSteele | the reactos site at least looks professional |
| 08:35:02 | RobSteele | no its a os |
| 08:35:04 | RobSteele | not a console. |
| 08:35:05 | BrightBlade | ohhh |
| 08:35:06 | CoolerQ | no, we're gonna have a wireless keyboard |
| 08:35:08 | Beta | NT is very stable and it's still unix based |
| 08:35:08 | BrightBlade | i thought it was a console |
| 08:35:16 | CoolerQ | Beta: NT?????? |
| 08:35:16 | RobSteele | no |
| 08:35:20 | BrightBlade | linux is very stable as well |
| 08:35:22 | RobSteele | yea windows nt |
| 08:35:30 | RobSteele | windows nt would be perfect for a gaming console. |
| 08:35:31 | CoolerQ | Beta: it might be stable, but it AIN'T UNIX |
| 08:35:48 | Beta | but reactos has windows compatiblity, that' might help with Xbox compibility |
| 08:35:56 | BrightBlade | but |
| 08:35:58 | RobSteele | get xbox out of your head. |
| 08:36:00 | BrightBlade | being windows compatible |
| 08:36:02 | Beta | NT is unix based |
| 08:36:04 | RobSteele | xbox is not compatible with pc |
| 08:36:17 | BrightBlade | generally makes it easier to hack and emulate on computers |
| 08:36:22 | Beta | Xbox is a X86 CPU with a new modifications |
| 08:36:29 | RobSteele | jeez |
| 08:36:46 | RobSteele | so a ps2 should run on pcs and gamecube should run on pc also |
| 08:36:50 | RobSteele | and dreamcast |
| 08:37:01 | Beta | dream cast died a long time ago |
| 08:37:02 | BrightBlade | ok all consoles have software preloaded |
| 08:37:13 | BrightBlade | dreamcast was running a custom versin of windows CE |
| 08:37:27 | RobSteele | yea but games made for consoles wont run on a pc. |
| 08:37:30 | BrightBlade | xbox is running a custom version of windows 2000 |
| 08:37:33 | CoolerQ | xbox runs 95% of the windows API, so a simple recompile will usually do it |
| 08:37:38 | BrightBlade | hackers will find a way |
| 08:37:42 | BrightBlade | they did for dreamcast |
| 08:37:44 | Beta | yea we just need to decide where we are going what OS we will support and how we will go with the console |
| 08:37:47 | CoolerQ | BrightBlade: XBox runs Windows XB :) |
| 08:37:52 | RobSteele | dreamcast runs on pc lol |
| 08:37:56 | RobSteele | get me a link right now. |
| 08:38:03 | RobSteele | n64 games barely run on pc. |
| 08:38:16 | BrightBlade | well the games had to be specially ported to cd |
| 08:38:28 | RobSteele | well that isnt a problem |
| 08:38:39 | RobSteele | no pc is capable of running a dreamcast game. |
| 08:38:42 | BrightBlade | because cd-roms can't read the special cds dreamcast used |
| 08:39:01 | Beta | dreamcast is dead |
| 08:39:05 | RobSteele | you do know that dc games are easily hackable onto cdroms |
| 08:39:10 | Beta | sega gave up on it |
| 08:39:19 | BrightBlade | yes we know that beta |
| 08:39:24 | BrightBlade | but we can still discuss it |
| 08:39:38 | RobSteele | the whole point isnt that sega gave up on it, but that a pc cant run a dreamcast game. |
| 08:39:46 | RobSteele | a pc can barely run n64 games. |
| 08:39:54 | RobSteele | psone games are perfectly emulated either. |
| 08:40:15 | RobSteele | arent* |
| 08:40:21 | BrightBlade | bleem does a good job |
| 08:40:30 | RobSteele | not a perfect job though. |
| 08:40:31 | BrightBlade | also have you seen the software for the g3 machines |
| 08:40:38 | BrightBlade | those do really nice |
| 08:40:45 | BrightBlade | so nice, sony sued them |
| 08:40:50 | Beta | are we talking about making the console emulate other Consoles? |
| 08:41:04 | BrightBlade | we are talking about anything and everything |
| 08:41:20 | RobSteele | no , someone here said they should try to make xbox run on pc, which is impossible. |
| 08:42:01 | RobSteele | unless pcs are much more powerful, but no current pc can run any xbox games and it will be like that for a while. |
| 08:42:03 | Beta | why is it impossible? |
| 08:42:05 | BrightBlade | all i said was xbox runs a custom version of windows, which i thought I read it was 2000 but Cooler said it was xp |
| 08:42:46 | Beta | I'm running windows SP3 I should becale to run anything hehe' |
| 08:42:54 | BrightBlade | SP3? |
| 08:42:59 | RobSteele | sp3 wtf? |
| 08:43:08 | Beta | 2000 Sp3 beta hehe |
| 08:43:19 | RobSteele | im running windows xp thats about it, im still using the rc build i got from microsoft |
| 08:43:37 | Beta | I'll naver get XP I hate WPA |
| 08:43:46 | RobSteele | XP is quite good. |
| 08:44:04 | BrightBlade | i've heard mixed feelings about xp |
| 08:44:08 | RobSteele | thank god i dont play pc games. |
| 08:44:08 | BrightBlade | not sure if i should get it |
| 08:44:14 | Beta | I think it is mostly I want to try it out but I won't buy it until MS get's rid of WPA |
| 08:44:32 | BrightBlade | wpa? |
| 08:44:36 | RobSteele | Im definitely not a pc gamer, especially since windows is the most suppurted piece of crap. |
| 08:45:05 | BrightBlade | i have acoule games for window |
| 08:45:09 | BrightBlade | counter-strike |
| 08:45:09 | Beta | Windows Product Activation Microsoft answers to piracy, it was hack what, an hour or a day after XP was released |
| 08:45:11 | BrightBlade | starcraft :) |
| 08:45:23 | RobSteele | I have about 10 pc games in a 5 year radius |
| 08:45:25 | RobSteele | lol |
| 08:45:51 | BrightBlade | i ususllay copy the cds from my friends who buy them |
| 08:45:52 | RobSteele | and 5 of those i bought in the past year, now if you count how many games i got for consoles you would drop to the floor. |
| 08:46:03 | BrightBlade | i own lots of console games |
| 08:46:05 | Beta | and it's us the honest customer who have to deal with it |
| 08:46:22 | BrightBlade | yeap they try to stop hackers |
| 08:46:28 | BrightBlade | and only annoy honest people |
| 08:46:35 | RobSteele | well i hate piracy. |
| 08:46:43 | RobSteele | Especially in the videogame area. |
| 08:47:11 | BrightBlade | so how old are you guys? |
| 08:47:23 | RobSteele | For music piracy, I could give two-shit about it because people like Britney spears will always make money without selling there crap albums. |
| 08:47:25 | Beta | me too but unlees MS can create a way to stop hacker/crackers without creating more problem for us they shuodl let us be |
| 08:48:13 | RobSteele | i cant believe there moving people in this room now |
| 08:48:17 | RobSteele | i expected to see noone here. |
| 08:48:39 | Beta | lol I'm going to bedd soon, it's 3 AM here |
| 08:48:44 | Beta | almost |
| 08:48:48 | RobSteele | its 4:51 am here |
| 08:49:06 | BrightBlade | 1:41 here |
| 08:49:12 | BrightBlade | i live on the west coast |
| 08:49:16 | RobSteele | nyc here. |
| 08:49:22 | Beta | wow we are all geek and nerds if we stay up late to talk about computer hehe |
| 08:49:29 | RobSteele | yep we are |
| 08:49:33 | BrightBlade | well |
| 08:49:34 | RobSteele | especially in a tuxbox room lol |
| 08:49:37 | BrightBlade | i'm a computer science major |
| 08:49:46 | BrightBlade | computers are my life |
| 08:49:49 | RobSteele | same here |
| 08:49:53 | Beta | I'm studying for my MCP |
| 08:49:58 | RobSteele | and videogames are my life too |
| 08:50:01 | BrightBlade | same |
| 08:50:19 | BrightBlade | i'm not sure if i want to develop video games or computer games when i get my degree |
| 08:50:34 | RobSteele | videogames for me. |
| 08:50:59 | RobSteele | Unfortunately it will reach more people and I can use the systems capabilites and not limit myself like with pcs. |
| 08:51:00 | BrightBlade | i was hoping tuxbox would be a good start for me |
| 08:51:13 | Beta | lol I'm not sure I want to fix computers, I also don't know if I can do a good job fixing computers ;-) |
| 08:51:41 | RobSteele | nah theres no money in fixing computers unless you charge idiotic people more money for parts. |
| 08:52:15 | BrightBlade | omg |
| 08:52:16 | BrightBlade | my parents |
| 08:52:21 | Beta | well if you want to be an optimist the last update on the site was 11 days ago :-) |
| 08:52:21 | BrightBlade | got totally ripped off |
| 08:52:38 | RobSteele | For example i got my friend 128mb ram and sold it to him for 110$ how much did I play? 9$ lol |
| 08:52:45 | BrightBlade | they paid 400 bucks for a new motherboard for a p3 450 processor |
| 08:53:13 | Beta | see lots of money ;-) |
| 08:53:18 | RobSteele | i made 100 off 128mb SDRAM lol |
| 08:53:46 | RobSteele | yea thats cuz there are so many idiotic people in this world when it comes to computers especially. |
| 08:53:55 | BrightBlade | they took it to a computer repair store, they couldn't wait till i was home for thanksgiving |
| 08:54:04 | Beta | lol I love new technology hehe |
| 08:54:14 | Beta | anyways I must be getting to bed ttyl |
| 08:54:22 | RobSteele | My mother is pretty good with the computer, my dad on the other hand prob wouldnt know how to turn one on. |
| 08:54:26 | RobSteele | bye |
| 08:55:48 | BrightBlade | i wonder what the next open source console will be after tuxbox |
| 08:56:02 | RobSteele | IF the TuxBox happens |
| 08:56:13 | BrightBlade | well i mean either way |
| 08:56:14 | RobSteele | there was Indrema, Reaction, now tuxbox. |
| 08:56:16 | BrightBlade | if it fails |
| 08:57:06 | BrightBlade | basically though if you want to make one from scratch |
| 08:57:12 | BrightBlade | you need to know alot of people |
| 08:57:17 | RobSteele | Yes definitely |
| 08:57:37 | BrightBlade | i think tuxbox guys dove in without thinking about it |
| 08:57:54 | RobSteele | They also need funding. The most important thing. |
| 08:58:08 | RobSteele | If these guys had the money to do this project they would be motivated. |
| 08:58:10 | BrightBlade | well i don't think funding is all that important in the beginning |
| 08:58:50 | BrightBlade | look at linux |
| 08:59:06 | RobSteele | thats true |
| 08:59:14 | BrightBlade | so i think its possible |
| 08:59:16 | BrightBlade | just hard |
| 08:59:25 | RobSteele | yes especially nowadays. |
| 08:59:43 | RobSteele | because everything started out like the tuxbox. microsoft especially. |
| 08:59:52 | BrightBlade | yeah |
| 09:00:03 | BrightBlade | heck the xbox is pretty much a specialized computer |
| 09:00:11 | BrightBlade | its got all the parts pretty much |
| 09:00:12 | RobSteele | yea but isnt every console |
| 09:00:28 | BrightBlade | how many have a harddrive though |
| 09:00:31 | RobSteele | every console uses pc technology. |
| 09:00:38 | RobSteele | yea only one has a harddrive |
| 09:00:45 | RobSteele | ps2 has one in the makings. |
| 09:01:08 | BrightBlade | xbox is kinda like the console that bridges the gap between computers and regular consoles |
| 09:01:20 | RobSteele | Yea |
| 09:01:29 | RobSteele | Its the console of pcs |
| 09:01:52 | BrightBlade | which is kinda a good idea because then you can get computer developers to easily port to x-box |
| 09:01:55 | RobSteele | its pretty much a pc made specifically for gaming. |
| 09:02:14 | RobSteele | actually vice versa. |
| 09:02:45 | BrightBlade | although there are alot of games that shouldn't be on console |
| 09:02:51 | BrightBlade | one of which being starcraft |
| 09:03:05 | BrightBlade | that was a total failure i think on n64 |
| 09:03:16 | RobSteele | not really, i enjoyed that game. |
| 09:03:29 | BrightBlade | on n64? |
| 09:03:29 | RobSteele | Alot of people enjoyed that game on N64. |
| 09:03:43 | BrightBlade | about 100000 people still play it online |
| 09:03:45 | BrightBlade | honest |
| 09:03:46 | RobSteele | yep go to gamefaqs.com and the starcraft board for n64 |
| 09:03:53 | BrightBlade | for computers |
| 09:04:14 | BrightBlade | battle.net by blizzard who made starcraft, |
| 09:07:00 | BrightBlade | you said you have xbox right? |
| 09:07:07 | RobSteele | yea |
| 09:07:15 | BrightBlade | play halo or doa3? |
| 09:07:21 | RobSteele | yep own both |
| 09:07:24 | RobSteele | love them both |
| 09:07:32 | BrightBlade | yeah tehy both look really good |
| 09:07:47 | RobSteele | yes halo is another example that FPS can be done well on consoles |
| 09:08:06 | BrightBlade | i'm a college student, can't buy all the consoles i want :( |
| 09:08:20 | RobSteele | im almost a college student |
| 09:08:35 | RobSteele | last year of highschool. |
| 09:08:39 | BrightBlade | ah cool |
| 09:08:50 | BrightBlade | i'm a sophmore in college |
| 09:08:58 | RobSteele | cool |
| 09:09:12 | RobSteele | I really hope TuxBox goes somewhere. |
| 09:09:28 | BrightBlade | we need to somehow to get the developers concentrated |
| 09:09:42 | BrightBlade | or for a start |
| 09:09:45 | BrightBlade | accept help |
| 09:10:59 | BrightBlade | remember how i mentioned bleem earlier? |
| 09:11:05 | BrightBlade | well it seems they are no more just found out |
| 09:11:20 | RobSteele | bleem is still very around |
| 09:11:26 | BrightBlade | http://www.bleem.com/ |
| 09:11:43 | RobSteele | they just finished making mgs and tekken 3 bleemcast for dreamcast. |
| 09:12:20 | RobSteele | holy shit youre right. |
| 09:12:37 | RobSteele | I just recieved mgs and tekken 3 bleemcast direct from their store 2 weeks ago. |
| 09:13:21 | RobSteele | crap I better get the gt2 bleemcast before its too late |
| 09:15:56 | BrightBlade | well i guess it would be annoying to develop anti piracy for tuxbox though |
| 09:16:10 | RobSteele | yea that cant happen |
| 09:16:14 | BrightBlade | that would defiently have to be closed source i would think |
| 09:16:15 | RobSteele | because it is open source |
| 09:16:31 | BrightBlade | well i mean for closed source games |
| 09:16:46 | BrightBlade | because not everyone will make their games open source |
| 09:16:58 | BrightBlade | major companies wouldn't unless it was a old game |
| 09:17:10 | RobSteele | yea |
| 09:18:49 | BrightBlade | i've been thinking of making a website for developers for tuxbox, but w/ its inactivity relly discouraging |
| 09:19:46 | RobSteele | yea same here. |
| 09:21:32 | RobSteele | I cant believe bleem is gone |
| 09:21:43 | RobSteele | the bleemcasts ruled |
| 09:21:53 | BrightBlade | i was quite shocked myself |
| 09:22:11 | RobSteele | this was posted yesterday i just found out. |
| 20:20:36 | BrightBlade | ^^ |
| 20:28:13 | BrightBlade | hey |
| 20:39:50 | BrightBlade | anyone alive? |
| 20:44:40 | BrightBlade | wake up everyone |
| 20:46:55 | travis|hp | hmm |
| 20:48:16 | BrightBlade | wow some one is awake :o |
| 20:49:01 | BrightBlade | maybe not |
| 20:49:05 | travis|laptop | yes |
| 20:49:22 | travis|laptop | sort of that is |
| 20:49:29 | BrightBlade | oh |
| 20:49:44 | BrightBlade | it was pretty active about 1 am PST |
| 20:49:53 | BrightBlade | 4 of us talking |
| 20:50:01 | travis|laptop | what was all said? |
| 20:50:03 | travis|laptop | wish i was there |
| 20:50:14 | BrightBlade | it was a really long discussion |
| 20:50:23 | BrightBlade | it was mostly about xbo and gamecube though |
| 20:50:32 | BrightBlade | xbo = xbox |
| 20:50:32 | travis|laptop | eh |
| 20:50:57 | BrightBlade | and also whether the makers of tuxbox were taken hostage |
| 20:51:22 | travis|laptop | i wish i was, lol |
| 20:52:02 | BrightBlade | lol so whats going on with tuxbox? seems kinda inactive........ |
| 20:53:32 | travis|laptop | development is going slowly yes |
| 20:54:09 | BrightBlade | busy with other things? |
| 20:54:27 | travis|laptop | yeah, i am doing all my college and work things also |
| 20:54:42 | travis|laptop | along with girlfriend |
| 20:54:48 | travis|laptop | and finding time to still have a life |
| 20:55:19 | BrightBlade | how many people are working on it? |
| 20:55:22 | travis|laptop | but my local LUG is very interested and we may have all them working on this as a primary project |
| 20:55:48 | travis|laptop | about 10 constant people right now, but lots of contributers |
| 20:56:19 | BrightBlade | so has the os been worked on further? i noticed there hasn't been a update on it since april |
| 20:56:43 | travis|laptop | actually yes, silverado has worked on it greatly |
| 20:57:16 | travis|laptop | he just doesnt like everyone touching his main work at first |
| 20:57:36 | travis|laptop | he wants to get it going stable then let other people help more with os specific stuff |
| 20:57:42 | BrightBlade | ah |
| 20:57:54 | travis|laptop | he is an old time programmer, he is very good |
| 20:58:05 | travis|laptop | this is just how he wants to do this part |
| 20:58:22 | travis|laptop | he is that good though, so i dont have a problem with that |
| 20:58:38 | travis|laptop | he was being helped by a couple people before compiling various things too |
| 21:00:45 | BrightBlade | any ideas for a ETA for it to be released for others to contribute? |
| 21:01:21 | travis|laptop | that would be a better question for silverado on that side |
| 21:04:55 | travis|laptop | i gg |
| 21:04:57 | travis|laptop | will bbl |
| 21:04:59 | BrightBlade | ok |
| 21:05:01 | BrightBlade | talk to you later |
| 21:05:02 | travis|laptop | i also have my other pc on too |
| 21:05:07 | travis|laptop | so i may be on that |
| 21:05:09 | BrightBlade | k |
| 23:07:19 | CoolerQ | ya ther? |
| 23:07:22 | CoolerQ | there*? |
| 23:07:28 | CoolerQ | i dunno what hp means |