| 01:14:22 | arog | travis |
| 01:14:30 | travis|pain | yes? |
| 01:14:33 | arog | teeth? |
| 01:14:37 | travis|pain | correct |
| 01:14:50 | travis|pain | i wont be on long |
| 01:14:52 | arog | how can i see what irqs are used and what is using each one in linux? |
| 01:15:06 | arog | from the shell, not a gui |
| 01:15:19 | travis|pain | i really dont know all that |
| 01:15:28 | travis|pain | bzflag or silverado are better |
| 01:19:06 | travis|trytosleep | dmesg for boot msges? |
| 01:19:08 | travis|trytosleep | i dont know |
| 01:19:18 | travis|trytosleep | i am trying to stop bleeding and trying to sleep now |
| 01:19:19 | travis|trytosleep | bye |
| 01:33:16 | BZFlag | arog: cat /proc/interrupts |
| 01:43:14 | arog | k |
| 02:59:21 | arog | BZFlag: you here? |
| 03:01:54 | BZFlag | now |
| 03:03:01 | arog | do you know how you can override options in /etc/lilo.conf ? |
| 03:03:22 | arog | like if i have something like append="please lock up my kernel" :- ) |
| 03:03:30 | arog | can i override it at the boot prompt? |
| 03:04:26 | arog | BZFlag: ??? |
| 03:08:28 | BZFlag | append options can be set on the command line |
| 03:08:50 | BZFlag | but afaik there is no method to remove the options. |
| 03:09:06 | arog | sheeit |
| 03:09:14 | BZFlag | you could use grub instead. it allows editing the entire command line as well as |
| 03:09:29 | arog | the problem is, it's now after-the-fact |
| 03:09:38 | arog | so i have to find a way to boot it up properly |
| 03:09:39 | BZFlag | allowing you to pick kernels that have not been installed into the config directly from the file system |
| 03:09:48 | BZFlag | got floppy? |
| 03:09:56 | arog | it's my friend's server |
| 03:09:58 | BZFlag | and another machine to write one with? |
| 03:10:01 | arog | and the floppy didn't work |
| 03:10:12 | BZFlag | hw issue or sw issue? |
| 03:10:15 | arog | i have a rescue cd and floppy (toms root boot) |
| 03:10:19 | arog | sw issue |
| 03:10:31 | arog | but i can't seem to figure out how to redo lilo |
| 03:10:35 | BZFlag | a grub floppy should be all you need. |
| 03:10:43 | arog | okay, how can i get/make one? |
| 03:10:48 | BZFlag | then rerun lilo after booting with grub. |
| 03:10:59 | BZFlag | got grub on your system now? |
| 03:11:04 | BZFlag | apt-get install grub |
| 03:11:04 | arog | probably |
| 03:11:07 | BZFlag | ;-) |
| 03:11:09 | arog | mandrake 8.0 |
| 03:11:20 | BZFlag | type "grub" as root to see |
| 03:11:25 | arog | it's installed |
| 03:11:28 | BZFlag | then quit to get out. |
| 03:11:34 | arog | k |
| 03:11:42 | BZFlag | ok. ls -l /boot/grub/stage* |
| 03:12:03 | arog | stage1 or stage2? |
| 03:12:10 | BZFlag | got both there? cool. |
| 03:12:16 | arog | k |
| 03:12:31 | BZFlag | cat /boot/grub/stage1 > /tmp/grubfloppy |
| 03:12:44 | BZFlag | cat /boot/grub/stage2 >> /tmp/grubfloppy |
| 03:12:50 | BZFlag | insert a floppy... |
| 03:13:00 | BZFlag | cat /tmp/grubfloppy > /dev/fd0 |
| 03:13:06 | arog | " /tmp/floppy" ? |
| 03:13:10 | arog | okay |
| 03:13:13 | BZFlag | uh, a blank floppy... |
| 03:13:45 | BZFlag | then boot with that. you then need a quick grub primer. type "root (" and hit tab. |
| 03:14:10 | BZFlag | it will show you the possible drives. you probably want "root (hd0)" |
| 03:15:01 | BZFlag | then type "kernel /" and tab again, walk down the tree till you find your kernel and then append any options you want. |
| 03:15:18 | BZFlag | if needed do "initrd /" and tab again till you find the initrd |
| 03:15:27 | BZFlag | then "boot" and you're up. |
| 03:15:38 | arog | k |
| 03:15:41 | arog | lemme see what happenes |
| 03:15:46 | BZFlag | oh... I made an error... |
| 03:16:12 | BZFlag | "root (" and tab, pick a drive, then "," and tab again pick a partition. |
| 03:17:04 | BZFlag | so the whole thing will be something like "root (hd0,0)" whoich equates to either hda1 or sda1 in other words the first partition on the first BIOS drive. |
| 03:17:51 | BZFlag | grub numbers all hard drives, ide and scsi as the bios numbers from hd0 on up. |
| 03:18:15 | BZFlag | it also numbers partitions starting at 0, so thats generally 1 less that the linux number. |
| 03:19:26 | arog | not sure about the root command |
| 03:19:30 | arog | here's what i know |
| 03:19:39 | arog | "/dev/hda1 is /boot" |
| 03:19:42 | BZFlag | I know caldera uses grub on the boot cd, so the same trick is possible from there. I have not installed mandrake in a while, it may be grub on the cd too. |
| 03:19:48 | arog | "/dev/hda8 is /" |
| 03:19:56 | BZFlag | ok. "root (hd0,0" is right then |
| 03:20:03 | BZFlag | ok. "root (hd0,0)" is right then |
| 03:20:11 | arog | hmm, it's not working, hold on |
| 03:20:36 | BZFlag | remember to add a root=hda8 after the kernel name.... |
| 03:20:46 | BZFlag | so it might be something like: |
| 03:21:17 | arog | the kernel is the default rh7.1, i think vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 |
| 03:21:21 | BZFlag | kernel /vmlinuz-2.2.19 root=/dev/hda8 |
| 03:21:41 | arog | so |
| 03:21:52 | BZFlag | ok, "kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 root=/dev/hda8" |
| 03:22:03 | BZFlag | need an initrd? |
| 03:22:07 | arog | where does root (hd0,0) come in, before that? |
| 03:22:38 | BZFlag | yes. on the first grub prompt line type the root then return and the kernel. |
| 03:22:50 | BZFlag | you can actually skip the root and type: |
| 03:22:55 | arog | okay, now what do i do after that? |
| 03:23:03 | arog | oh |
| 03:23:05 | BZFlag | kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 root=/dev/hda8 |
| 03:23:05 | arog | boot |
| 03:23:09 | BZFlag | if you like. |
| 03:23:14 | BZFlag | then boot, right. |
| 03:23:32 | BZFlag | progress? |
| 03:23:34 | arog | it said the kernel must be loaded before |
| 03:23:52 | BZFlag | you need to do a kernel line like the above. |
| 03:23:57 | BZFlag | kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz-2.4.2-2 root=/dev/hda8 |
| 03:24:01 | arog | ok |
| 03:24:04 | arog | hold on |
| 03:24:06 | BZFlag | then enter, then boot and enter |
| 03:24:09 | arog | should i reboot? |
| 03:24:14 | BZFlag | no. |
| 03:24:31 | BZFlag | as long as you have a prompt, just type away. |
| 03:24:57 | BZFlag | you are doing this on the server after booting the floppy you made right? |
| 03:25:42 | arog | yeah |
| 03:25:50 | arog | it worked fine, awesome, thank you very much |
| 03:25:59 | arog | i shall add that to my repetoire |
| 03:26:07 | arog | how the hell do you spell that? |
| 03:26:24 | BZFlag | now fix /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo or you'll have to do it again. ;-) |
| 03:26:40 | BZFlag | is not a speellng wiz |
| 03:27:16 | BZFlag | and remember it will work on scsi based systems too, but you may need to do the initrd line as well. |
| 03:28:44 | BZFlag | grub rules. lilo should die a slow death. ;-) |
| 04:46:19 | Bakemono | yo yo |
| 04:46:49 | Bakemono | yo yo? |
| 04:48:19 | TuxBSD | whats up |
| 04:49:21 | Bakemono | da sky? |
| 04:52:23 | TuxBSD | yea same here man |
| 04:53:38 | TuxBSD | listens to Sex Pistols - Bodies |
| 04:54:42 | Bakemono | is listening to Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take 5 |
| 04:55:45 | Bakemono | my lava lamp is failing me |
| 04:55:49 | TuxBSD | haha |
| 04:57:07 | Bakemono | it's new |
| 04:57:29 | Bakemono | takes time to melt the "lava" |
| 04:57:34 | TuxBSD | wow |
| 04:57:35 | TuxBSD | cool |
| 04:57:52 | Bakemono | so, what's up? |
| 04:58:01 | Bakemono | haven't seen you in a while |
| 04:58:03 | TuxBSD | im wasted man |
| 04:58:04 | TuxBSD | hehe |
| 04:58:17 | Bakemono | heh |
| 04:58:22 | TuxBSD | im leavin tomorrow for a small vacation-type thing before stupid skool starts |
| 04:58:38 | TuxBSD | so i am about to get off here |
| 04:59:09 | Bakemono | I'll be homeschoolin' |
| 05:15:38 | Bakemono | I gots to go |
| 05:15:39 | Bakemono | bbl |
| 07:46:14 | Snake | i invented a new brand of knives, its called "Spoon" |
| 10:47:09 | Snake | heeeeelllloooo |
| 10:47:25 | Snake | pretty much nothing has been done on the tuxbox |
| 15:22:17 | redblue | hi! |
| 15:28:29 | travis|notdeadyet | hello |
| 15:28:41 | travis|notdeadyet | is in severe pain |
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| 16:27:55 | travis|mouth_hurts | anyone know how long wisdom teeth pain lasts? |
| 16:28:46 | travis|mouth_hurts | or in how long i can eat? :P |
| 16:40:19 | redblue | pain? |
| 16:40:21 | redblue | how come? |
| 16:40:44 | redblue | ah oops |
| 16:40:45 | redblue | :( |
| 16:41:21 | redblue | as far i can recall, it lasts until they drop out |
| 16:41:40 | redblue | then you don't feel it anymore |
| 16:49:20 | travis|mouth_hurts | hmmm |
| 16:49:25 | travis|mouth_hurts | well, they are out |
| 16:49:30 | travis|mouth_hurts | that is what hurts :P |
| 16:49:45 | travis|mouth_hurts | i had them taken out about 26 hours ago.... |
| 16:49:49 | travis|mouth_hurts | all 4 at once |
| 16:50:20 | travis|mouth_hurts | at least the bleeding has stopped :-), but i want a cigarette very very badly ;-( |
| 16:50:41 | redblue | ah |
| 16:50:45 | redblue | you got them taken out |
| 16:50:52 | travis|mouth_hurts | no smoking for 10 days i guess... |
| 16:51:08 | redblue | i think it takes about 48 hours |
| 16:51:29 | redblue | if pain persist after, you may ask doctor why? |
| 16:51:30 | travis|mouth_hurts | they gave me some narcotics that i am sort of scared to take |
| 16:51:52 | travis|mouth_hurts | they said only take under extreme pain, i dont think i need them yet |
| 16:51:57 | travis|mouth_hurts | but i sure wish i could smoke |
| 16:52:58 | redblue | oops |
| 16:53:14 | redblue | i didn't figured you were talking about 'those' teeths |
| 16:54:22 | travis|mouth_hurts | yep |
| 16:54:30 | travis|mouth_hurts | everything hurts like hell |
| 16:54:40 | redblue | but 4 at once is a lot |
| 16:55:37 | travis|mouth_hurts | i know |
| 16:55:39 | redblue | the guy must act quicker to froze every teeth |
| 16:55:51 | travis|mouth_hurts | they didnt even tell me they were putting me to sleep |
| 16:55:56 | redblue | and therefore get them out quicker too |
| 16:56:34 | travis|mouth_hurts | they gassed me up until i was quite high and the docter was like "ever have an IV?", i said "no"... then he jabbed me with a needle and..... |
| 16:56:34 | redblue | my is you need 4 to 5 days |
| 16:56:39 | redblue | my guess is you need 4 to 5 days |
| 16:56:55 | redblue | IV? |
| 16:56:58 | redblue | lol |
| 16:57:12 | travis|mouth_hurts | i woke up with a nurse right next to me and i asked her when they were going to do it, and she said "we are all done" |
| 16:57:21 | travis|mouth_hurts | so yeah, they put me to sleep without me knowing it |
| 16:57:47 | redblue | my doctor proposed 2 at once |
| 16:58:07 | travis|mouth_hurts | so how long will this pain last? |
| 16:58:09 | redblue | that's what i'd do |
| 16:58:50 | redblue | i dunno |
| 16:59:03 | travis|mouth_hurts | my friend meghan said she hurt for like a week |
| 16:59:08 | travis|mouth_hurts | craig said 2 weeks.... |
| 16:59:09 | redblue | i think 4 days is a good guess |
| 16:59:13 | travis|mouth_hurts | john said 2 days... |
| 16:59:40 | redblue | it depends about damage done |
| 17:00:12 | redblue | and your ability to cicatrisice |
| 17:00:13 | travis|mouth_hurts | well, i need to go for a bit |
| 17:00:23 | redblue | it varies between people |
| 17:00:49 | redblue | i think if pain is strong after 5 days, it's worrying |
| 17:01:01 | travis|mouth_hurts | very true |
| 17:01:05 | redblue | i'd say 4 |
| 17:01:11 | travis|mouth_hurts | cool cool\ |
| 17:02:34 | redblue | i think you need at least 48 hours |
| 17:02:51 | redblue | so your friend john recovered quite fast |
| 17:02:55 | travis|mouth_hurts | yep |
| 17:02:57 | travis|mouth_hurts | he is here now |
| 17:03:09 | redblue | hi there |
| 17:03:13 | redblue | lol |
| 17:04:33 | redblue | important thing is that dentist is competent enough to not damage healthy roots while doing that. then you're fine |
| 17:04:40 | travis|mouth_hurts | he is a pro |
| 17:04:57 | travis|mouth_hurts | i had to drive all the way to the cities for it |
| 17:05:54 | redblue | so it's a good idea to try and see if a dentist is confortable with chirurgy questions |
| 17:05:56 | redblue | :) |
| 17:06:06 | redblue | coz it's a chirurgy |
| 17:06:43 | travis|mouth_hurts | chirurgy? you mean chirurgy |
| 17:06:45 | travis|mouth_hurts | ? |
| 17:06:50 | redblue | yes |
| 17:07:22 | redblue | coz the wisdom teeth are inside |
| 17:07:49 | redblue | around healty roots... some easily visible, other less |
| 17:08:37 | redblue | if he didn't see all those, you will have a problem |
| 17:09:50 | travis|mouth_hurts | i am sure he did |
| 17:09:59 | travis|mouth_hurts | he does that every day... that is all he does |
| 17:10:07 | redblue | great |
| 17:10:23 | travis|mouth_hurts | yeah i know |
| 21:55:52 | Bakemono | yo yo |
| 21:55:57 | travis|alittlebetter | hello |
| 21:56:44 | travis|alittlebetter | hi bake |
| 21:56:50 | Bakemono | hey |
| 21:57:54 | travis|alittlebetter | my mouth hurts like a mother.... |
| 21:58:15 | Bakemono | I'm in too many channels! |
| 21:58:21 | Bakemono | can't follow conversations!!! |
| 21:58:32 | travis|alittlebetter | lol |